@@timotheegoulet1511 V10s are worse efficiency and power wise, cope with it. Small ICEs tuned to the moon with a hybrid system are just better for racing in every single way. Why do you think almost every single LMH car is a hybrid when it isn't mandatory? It's simply the only option that can compete nowadays.
Imagine what a no rule car in general can without converting a existing car. Look at the concept from Adrain for the Gran Turismo. They would be so fast that people would die when pushing them to the limit.
@@hazardpilottt1457to be fair, the design of the f1 car is better for speed and being around tracks. Only reason a F1 car doesn’t completely smoke that car is because of safety regulations. Do a no rule F1 car, and it’ll get a 4:30 on the Nurburgring no doubt. They’ll have ridiculous downforce, illegal flexi wings, 1500 horsepower, ridiculous illegal aero. I mean it would be so ridiculously dangerous. The FIA has strict regulations in place.
W11 is from the 2020 season, not 2017 season, that car was W08, while the W11 is still faster than the 919 Evo but with all due respect both of the cars were equally insane
18:40 this right here. Rally is more dangerous and people are like it’s the hardest form of motorsport. But honestly, driving on a track at f1 speeds isn’t far off. And, this is gonna piss some people off, but i say f1 is harder than wrc. I’m not saying wrc is easy, but neither is F1
I get what you mean but i disagree WRC is not considered one of toughest form of motorsport because it's physically the hardest Its considered so due to the shear skills and mental fortitude required One small mistake and you'd be launching your car off a cliff or killing some spectator or your own co-driver The mental toll a rally driver has to endure is more than F1, because in rally you're responsible for your co-driver Rally is harder than F1 That said F1 is not easy either, that part i agree with
@Max-pi7ri I´d argue, you cant compare them 1 to 1 like that. They both sit at the pinnacle of their class. While the skillset for both are similar, they do differ quite a bit. Take for example racecraft. It is super important in F1 while next to non existent in WRC. Same with Driving skills, WRC you use a lot broader spectrum much more of the time, which you would consider overdriving in F1, or might just use it once or twice to get/hold a position without killinmg your tyres too much.
Speaking of defeating Formula 1: I've heard promising stories about Adrian Newey's recently revealed RB17. He told the press that one of their clients (not a professional racing driver) was already clocking 2 seconds faster in the simulator than any F1 car ever on Silverstone. So I would definitely keep an eye out when they will put Max Verstappen in that car when it rolls out of the factory.
Putting the most capable driver in a car not set by regs will be awesome to see, hopefully it can break the Spa record which is held by the W11 in qualifying.
I'm a bit scared for how that would affect the drivers body. Remember the TS010 and how that thing broke drivers ribs? I wonder if it would do that, if not worse.
@@DG_64 Newey's car is designed for rich clients that are not necessarily professional racing drivers. As such you can expect its safety standards to be up to snuff.
Max is a punk in the same manner as his old man. And by posting what you did you are admitting it is all about the car for max. As he proves incapable of making up for any lack of performance from the car. Man people like you who are irrational about someone are weird.
The original CanAm cars of the late 60s and early 70s blew the doors off of the F1 cars of that day. The early to mid 1970 Indycars also easily outran the F1 cars if the day. But the first cars to make F1 cars look slow were the 1950s Indy Roadsters, and they proved it the few times they were able to race them. The F1 manufacturers were so scared of the Indy Roadsters that they only raced against them twice, and only a couple of the teams even attempted it.
Hardly a fair analysis. During the 1950s, the Indy 500 was one of the races in the World Championship of Drivers, but Usac Champ cars raced exclusively on ovals. I found only a couple of F1 cars that attempted Indy, and neither fared well. The only other instance I could find of F1 cars racing USAC Champ cars was an exhibition race at the Monza track in Italy in 1957 & 58. But this too used only the oval portion of the famous track, so it's no suprise that the Champ cars dominated both years. F1 cars are designed purely for road racing, just as Champ cars were designed purely for ovals. It wasn't until the early-mid sixties that F1 teams found success at Indy, and then in cars that were heavily modified from their F1 kin. The first to win was Jim Clark in a Lotus/Ford, in 65. Graham Hill followed in a Lola/Ford in 66. But that was it.
@@MDNewton-r3d Unfair would be comparing a Top Fuel Dragster to an F1 car. But that doesn't really matter as there was NOTHING in the video that limited comparisons to any specific standards.
@@cee128dThe video compares a road course car to other road course cars on road courses. Your post compares road course cars to oval course cars on an oval track. Seems fundamentally unfair to me.
@@MDNewton-r3d What about the CanAm cars? Those ONLY raced on road courses. And the Indy Cars of the 60's and later did run on some road courses, although I will admit they primarily raced on ovals. Indy Car ran at Riverside International Raceway in 1967, 8, and 9. CART began running a lot of road courses in the later 1970s and were so much faster on them than F1 cars, that the FIA refused to sanction CART/Indycar races at any/all circuits that F1 used to avoid having Indy Cars show how vastly superior they were to F1 cars when it came to track times and speeds. Seems like an apples to apples comparison to me.
jp performance a german auto tuner interviewt the race driver about the car. The driver that drove the nuernberg ring one said that the car could go faster but he was not able to do it. Having a car where the limit is the driver and not oposide is just crazy
I think itd be dope to see all perfromance restrictions removed and have manufacturers race and compete. Itd be a lot of work to ensure safety but i think the pure innovation in safety and performance would be worth it for entertainment and evelopment. How many cool consumer features have come from cutting edge competitive development
The Can-Am series of the late 60s and early 70s required all tires to be covered by bodywork and two seats. The rest was unrestricted, including engines. It was spectacular.
15:58 xxx:077 is 77 milliseconds. xxx:77 is 770 milliseconds. You got it right a few seconds earlier with the previous time mentioned, then got it wrong straight afterwards with this mention of time.
Modern f1 couldn't do what the 919 Evo did at the Nordschleife, the 919 Evo has better suspension and a higher top speed for that massive straight, driving modern f1 around that track would be physically impossible
Im pretty sure, if f1 engineers got a "do whatever u can, to make the fastest thing ever and here is all the money of the world" they would build a car that can even lap the nordschleife, the stock f1 car is faster on gp tracks than the 919 evo so….
Throwing out all safety rules is not positive. Understanding design objectives and constraints are important parts of Engineering. And there are always constraints. Relaxing constraints doesn’t necessarily make an engineers job more enjoyable. In this case it likely provided engineers a chance to explore a different design space which could be more fun.
We should also consider the reasons behind the safety rules. For example: We're not running at night or with other cars, so we don't need headlights. We're not running when it's hot weather, so we don't need air conditioning.
safty rules are defently important but in a race against nobody but the clock, perfect weather condition etc there are many things that are not so important. For example the halo system on the f1 cars is completly obsolet if your dont have drivers in front. Have a great day
G'day hound dog. Great story. I left it for a while because I liked the Mustang story more than the racing ones, but this was worth the watch. That #2 919 coming from 56th to win was nice to know about on a Sunday when I've just snapped a brass banjo bolt on the fuel return line of my diesel. Optimistically uplifting. The twelve seconds improvement and to beat the F1 record at Lemans also great news for tired old men on a Sunday afternoon. Thanks for the humour with the sepia tractor footage too. You do it very well, the narration part. See you next week
I always thought the fact that no car company ever bothers designing for the limits of physics, if for no other reason than to push the bounds of what we think to be possible, was stupid. Even if the result is not street or race league legal, surely they can take the lessons learned and transfer them down into a real world product.
@@DG_64 Where? 1 sec maybe. F1 still same lap time. And only in Spa (and maybe Monza) the Evo had a chance, with long straights and fast corners and few hard braking zones.
5:15 Spa Franko SHA. Ok fine, now tell the Red Bull F1 team they have no regulations. F1 was running JET TURBINES, fan cars, six-wheeled cars, and cast iron production block turbocharged 2 liter inline 4s producing over 1300HP before Le Mans cars even had a monocoque.
official track records can only be set in races, not in qualifying or training. still you are somewhat right. if an f1 car would be unshackled it probably would be too much for a human to handle ( compare to this "unshackled" f1 prototype red bull developed for gran turismo 4 ( i think it was 4)).
@@emmodesgemmodes3110Qualifying or practice lap times are kinda silly as you could theoretically run it so hard the tires only survive one lap for that record. Would that lap record be legit or even realistic to allow teams to push the car that far.
@@Ornithopter470ignoramus. The vehicles has to be able to negotiate a track or road. It is not about driving fast in a straight line for a few hundred meters. So incredibly clueless.
The Porsche is really impressive, but the title of the video is obvious clickbait for anyone who follows any of this. The 919 did not make F1 look "slow" and as one poster already stated: "@Bahamuttiamat 1 month ago Lewis, Seb, and Kimi both beat the record in q2 2018. Would have been faster had it not rained in q3." It took VERY little time for F1 cars following F1 rules to make the unbound/unrestricted 919 less than 2nd place on a real track.
Comparing to F1 is silly. If you just build a vehical to be fast on a track it would look similar to LMP1 prototype anyway, because you will cover every area of drag with bodywork, no open wheels and maximise ground effects.
It be crazy if there was a truly unlimited race series with legit no rules get around the track as fast as possible just don’t kill yourself or others doing so
wierd large front end lights suggest you *could* possibly scoop of this body and lay down atop a fibreglass stretch of a 911...like funny cars in drag racing, uncanny shape but youd loose all the aerodymanics applications and effect, probably a bad idea lol
F1 is deliberately hobbled to keep the cars relatively slow. Every year the formula is updated to hobble them more as the constructors find workarounds for the rules.
Overall a nice presentation. If that's a person speaking, got the German and French pronunciations pretty well. However, when you have a time that ends in xx.77, that is NOT 77 milliseconds. This error was repeated multiple times, so the script writer's probably at fault. A.I. or not, proof-reading seems to be a dying art!
That was not the W11, not even close. The W11 is 1.5 seconds faster around Spa than then W08. The W11 also has a halo, wider front wink, no shark fin, and the most obvious difference of all: it was a black car.
As you said right at the beginning of your video. The Porsche was completely outside the realms of any rule book, Whereas the Mercedes W11 was restricted by a rule book thicker than the bible. The comparison is ridiculous. Give the W11 Active Suspension and Traction Control and then make the comparison.
An LMP1 car is a car that's able to compete under the regulations of the LMP1 class. So not, the 919 Evo isn't an LMP1 car. But it is based on one. For comparison. You wouldn't just take a Forumla 1 car, pimp it to the max without regulations in mind and still call it an F1 car, desspite it being outlawed from competing in F1 races, would you?
@emmodesgemmodes3110 let me explain better, if you take a F1 car, and "unrestrict" it, so you try to find the best efficiency possible on that actual project on aero, powertrain, etc, then yes, it's still a F1 car (that, for obvious reasons cannot compete in the FIA F1 championship, but that's pretty obvious I think :) The 919 evo uses the exact same engine of the 919h, without restrictors and different map, the chassis is literally the same as well, they made the aero more efficient, stiffen the suspensions and stripped out useless things for a hotlap (headlights, air conditioning...) Of course it cannot compete in the WEC championship, but the car it's still a lmp1 mate... Many people think it's the attempt of Porsche in making the fastest possible car around a lap, when it actually is their attempt of making an actual LMP1 as fast as possible; and that's way way different; and that's why this thing is so an engineering marvel. A LMP1 that can run F1 times around a lap, simply by being unrestricted. I bet most people would be mind blown if someone tried the vice-versa, so "unrestricteing and modifying" an actual F1 to made it last 24h non-stop, and still run LMP1 times around the La Sarthe circuit. I hope I explained myself better this time
that is not tru the evo hade no restrictiojs only a 919 b9dy and the rest was not lmp1 anymore because lmp1 is a regulation and the evo would fail all!
Another nonsense comparison between these two. Imagine something unrestricted competing against something heavily restricted, who do you think will come on top!??
Alright. This is not actually a fair comparison. the Porsche is a wide open Prototype, and the F! car has regulations to follow. Give the F1 designers to go limitless, then we'd see things a little differently.
This is by far not the fastest possible car. It's just the fastest you can get out of an existing concept without the regulations. If they would build a car from scratch.... with like a V12, Bi-Turbo, additional Hybrid System, ground effect, fan, flex wings, active aero, wider wheels... that car would be waaay faster.
Lighter and better for acceleration, not good for top speed which is why the bugatti doesn't use them. Bugatti hits about 440km/hr whereas this car hits 369km/hr. Bugatti is 2.4 seconds for 0-100km/hr, whereas this car is 2.0 seconds 0-100km/hr.
German engineering and production. So of course im trying to set up a few laps at the Nürburgring. Any suggestions? I'm thinking I want something like a Renault Alpine A110S. 911 will just get me into trouble...lol 1980 Rabbit GTI. lol.
Lol. He pronounces Porsche better than you spell it. I just love it when people correct me on how I pronounce Porsche but when I ask them what they drive they say ‘bee em double u’. So I drive a Porschah but you don’t drive a ‘bay em way’. Enjoy the excellent video and leave the pronunciations to the Germans.
17:39 thats not really true! Porsche was really successful with McLaren as their engine developer. It might not be a whole 100% Porsche team but, their F1 experience is younger than 1964!
I just wonder if Toyota would be faster around the Nurburgring with an unrestricted Toyota TS050, considering the fact that the TS050 set the Le Mans lap record. So maybe that’s something we have to wait and see. But however, Toyota Gazoo Racong seems to be focusing on other things like cars in the WEC, WRC, GT3, GT4. GT500 and others.
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1:33 Bear in mind that the Le Mans winning Audi was originally meant to be the Porsche 962 replacement.
If this is what a no rules LMP1 prototype can do imagine what a no rules F1 car can do.
Had the same thought. No rules for the ride height, spoilers, active aero and suspension, no engine restrictions. Man, it would be crazy
Just as long as it has a V10 I’ll be good with it.
@@timotheegoulet1511 V10s are worse efficiency and power wise, cope with it. Small ICEs tuned to the moon with a hybrid system are just better for racing in every single way. Why do you think almost every single LMH car is a hybrid when it isn't mandatory? It's simply the only option that can compete nowadays.
Imagine what a no rule car in general can without converting a existing car. Look at the concept from Adrain for the Gran Turismo. They would be so fast that people would die when pushing them to the limit.
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The mercedes F1 car of 2017 that porsche beat was the W08 which is the 2017 car....the W11 is the all conquering 2020 car
The Porsche could have gone way faster but the driver wasn't strong enough to support it
Lewis seb and kimi both beat the record in q2 2018. Would have been faster had it not rained in q3. The w11 is a monster.
@@hazardpilottt1457 Ik timo bern said it himself after the nurburgring lap
@@hazardpilottt1457and Merc was heavily restricted y the regulations and could have gone even faster.
@@hazardpilottt1457to be fair, the design of the f1 car is better for speed and being around tracks. Only reason a F1 car doesn’t completely smoke that car is because of safety regulations. Do a no rule F1 car, and it’ll get a 4:30 on the Nurburgring no doubt. They’ll have ridiculous downforce, illegal flexi wings, 1500 horsepower, ridiculous illegal aero. I mean it would be so ridiculously dangerous. The FIA has strict regulations in place.
W11 is from the 2020 season, not 2017 season, that car was W08, while the W11 is still faster than the 919 Evo but with all due respect both of the cars were equally insane
18:40 this right here. Rally is more dangerous and people are like it’s the hardest form of motorsport. But honestly, driving on a track at f1 speeds isn’t far off. And, this is gonna piss some people off, but i say f1 is harder than wrc.
I’m not saying wrc is easy, but neither is F1
I get what you mean but i disagree
WRC is not considered one of toughest form of motorsport because it's physically the hardest
Its considered so due to the shear skills and mental fortitude required
One small mistake and you'd be launching your car off a cliff or killing some spectator or your own co-driver
The mental toll a rally driver has to endure is more than F1, because in rally you're responsible for your co-driver
Rally is harder than F1
That said F1 is not easy either, that part i agree with
@@Max-pi7ri we can disagree with each other ultil the end of times, so let’s just agree that they’re both not easy and bury the axe.
@@yan4594 Agreed mate, at the end of the day both are incredible
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I´d argue, you cant compare them 1 to 1 like that. They both sit at the pinnacle of their class. While the skillset for both are similar, they do differ quite a bit. Take for example racecraft. It is super important in F1 while next to non existent in WRC. Same with Driving skills, WRC you use a lot broader spectrum much more of the time, which you would consider overdriving in F1, or might just use it once or twice to get/hold a position without killinmg your tyres too much.
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Speaking of defeating Formula 1: I've heard promising stories about Adrian Newey's recently revealed RB17. He told the press that one of their clients (not a professional racing driver) was already clocking 2 seconds faster in the simulator than any F1 car ever on Silverstone. So I would definitely keep an eye out when they will put Max Verstappen in that car when it rolls out of the factory.
Putting the most capable driver in a car not set by regs will be awesome to see, hopefully it can break the Spa record which is held by the W11 in qualifying.
@@calussy8040 I expect nothing less TBH but I agree it will be sensational nonetheless.
I'm a bit scared for how that would affect the drivers body. Remember the TS010 and how that thing broke drivers ribs? I wonder if it would do that, if not worse.
@@DG_64 Newey's car is designed for rich clients that are not necessarily professional racing drivers. As such you can expect its safety standards to be up to snuff.
Max is a punk in the same manner as his old man. And by posting what you did you are admitting it is all about the car for max. As he proves incapable of making up for any lack of performance from the car. Man people like you who are irrational about someone are weird.
script writer: 0.1 seconds is 100 milliseconds or 1/10th of a second, not 1 millisecond. Most excellent video.
No one ever said they were great with math. Good thing we weren’t talking DB!
The original CanAm cars of the late 60s and early 70s blew the doors off of the F1 cars of that day. The early to mid 1970 Indycars also easily outran the F1 cars if the day. But the first cars to make F1 cars look slow were the 1950s Indy Roadsters, and they proved it the few times they were able to race them. The F1 manufacturers were so scared of the Indy Roadsters that they only raced against them twice, and only a couple of the teams even attempted it.
Also horses lost to a combustion engine car.
Hardly a fair analysis. During the 1950s, the Indy 500 was one of the races in the World Championship of Drivers, but Usac Champ cars raced exclusively on ovals. I found only a couple of F1 cars that attempted Indy, and neither fared well. The only other instance I could find of F1 cars racing USAC Champ cars was an exhibition race at the Monza track in Italy in 1957 & 58. But this too used only the oval portion of the famous track, so it's no suprise that the Champ cars dominated both years. F1 cars are designed purely for road racing, just as Champ cars were designed purely for ovals.
It wasn't until the early-mid sixties that F1 teams found success at Indy, and then in cars that were heavily modified from their F1 kin. The first to win was Jim Clark in a Lotus/Ford, in 65. Graham Hill followed in a Lola/Ford in 66. But that was it.
@@MDNewton-r3d Unfair would be comparing a Top Fuel Dragster to an F1 car. But that doesn't really matter as there was NOTHING in the video that limited comparisons to any specific standards.
@@cee128dThe video compares a road course car to other road course cars on road courses. Your post compares road course cars to oval course cars on an oval track.
Seems fundamentally unfair to me.
@@MDNewton-r3d What about the CanAm cars? Those ONLY raced on road courses. And the Indy Cars of the 60's and later did run on some road courses, although I will admit they primarily raced on ovals. Indy Car ran at Riverside International Raceway in 1967, 8, and 9. CART began running a lot of road courses in the later 1970s and were so much faster on them than F1 cars, that the FIA refused to sanction CART/Indycar races at any/all circuits that F1 used to avoid having Indy Cars show how vastly superior they were to F1 cars when it came to track times and speeds.
Seems like an apples to apples comparison to me.
jp performance a german auto tuner interviewt the race driver about the car. The driver that drove the nuernberg ring one said that the car could go faster but he was not able to do it. Having a car where the limit is the driver and not oposide is just crazy
This is why I hope Porsche will come to F1 one day
I think itd be dope to see all perfromance restrictions removed and have manufacturers race and compete. Itd be a lot of work to ensure safety but i think the pure innovation in safety and performance would be worth it for entertainment and evelopment. How many cool consumer features have come from cutting edge competitive development
The Can-Am series of the late 60s and early 70s required all tires to be covered by bodywork and two seats. The rest was unrestricted, including engines. It was spectacular.
would love to see a short course race between the 919 and Spéirling
Anything short the Speirling would win.
15:58 xxx:077 is 77 milliseconds. xxx:77 is 770 milliseconds.
You got it right a few seconds earlier with the previous time mentioned, then got it wrong straight afterwards with this mention of time.
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Modern f1 couldn't do what the 919 Evo did at the Nordschleife, the 919 Evo has better suspension and a higher top speed for that massive straight, driving modern f1 around that track would be physically impossible
Not to mention modern f1 uses ground effect! Nurburgring is to bumpy for this to really be working properly most of the time
Im pretty sure, if f1 engineers got a "do whatever u can, to make the fastest thing ever and here is all the money of the world" they would build a car that can even lap the nordschleife, the stock f1 car is faster on gp tracks than the 919 evo so….
@@scott4603 They can use the 2020 W11 if they want too lol no ground effect and its way faster than todays F1 cars..
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It would be great if a new racing team was invented to be No rule F1 racing.
Then it wouldn’t be “F1”
@@jacobruiz97 Who wants F1 with all the shitty rules. invent a cosmos race team
seeing uploaded 32 seconds ago is wild
Ok that was just flat out good !
Throwing out all safety rules is not positive. Understanding design objectives and constraints are important parts of Engineering. And there are always constraints. Relaxing constraints doesn’t necessarily make an engineers job more enjoyable. In this case it likely provided engineers a chance to explore a different design space which could be more fun.
We should also consider the reasons behind the safety rules. For example: We're not running at night or with other cars, so we don't need headlights. We're not running when it's hot weather, so we don't need air conditioning.
safty rules are defently important but in a race against nobody but the clock, perfect weather condition etc there are many things that are not so important. For example the halo system on the f1 cars is completly obsolet if your dont have drivers in front. Have a great day
Porsche Intellignet Pogram AKA PIP looks like 919
Imagine what a top F1 driver in their prime could do in that car.... It would be pretty awesome to see.
G'day hound dog. Great story. I left it for a while because I liked the Mustang story more than the racing ones, but this was worth the watch. That #2 919 coming from 56th to win was nice to know about on a Sunday when I've just snapped a brass banjo bolt on the fuel return line of my diesel. Optimistically uplifting. The twelve seconds improvement and to beat the F1 record at Lemans also great news for tired old men on a Sunday afternoon. Thanks for the humour with the sepia tractor footage too. You do it very well, the narration part. See you next week
when it comes to making v4 and v6 engines fast, porsche just cooks
I always thought the fact that no car company ever bothers designing for the limits of physics, if for no other reason than to push the bounds of what we think to be possible, was stupid. Even if the result is not street or race league legal, surely they can take the lessons learned and transfer them down into a real world product.
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This is the weirdest flex ever. They went all out on the 919 Evo and only beat F1 by a few tenths. This just shows how insanely fast F1 is.
Is it faster?Yea
@@So222ish F1 was faster the year after, yes.
@@VVCepheiii When was the Porsche engineered?2018?
@@So222ish Yes, I was off by one year, 2020 F1 pole was a 1:41.252.
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Thank you for a great video. The level of genius engineering is incredible.
This is why I’m sad Porsche isn’t in f1, they could of been monsters
because they built a car that doesn't conform to any regulations but is still slower than cars that do?
I was about to say, they would be hamstrung by all the regulations in F1.
What do you mean by “they could of been monster”? “Could HAVE” maybe?
@@paulschreiner1978you can have these nuts
Well if F1 had not restrictions, just remember Bmw Made 1.5L turbos making 1500+ hp back in the 80's ! Let that sink.
There are cars in the NHRA that run every week that make F1 look slow.
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But only on a straight line
can we just talk about the writing for the intro?????
This car was only faster than F1 for like one year. In 2018 F1 around Spa was 0.2 seconds faster than this 919 EVO
That's true, but the 919 100% could've gone faster.
@@DG_64 F1 could have gone faster as f. FIA really banned many things to make all cars equal. Put f1 in no regulation that will be crazy
@@DG_64 Where? 1 sec maybe. F1 still same lap time. And only in Spa (and maybe Monza) the Evo had a chance, with long straights and fast corners and few hard braking zones.
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the record on nordschleife still looks like its been fast forwarded so fn insane is the speed and especially cornering speed
5:15 Spa Franko SHA. Ok fine, now tell the Red Bull F1 team they have no regulations. F1 was running JET TURBINES, fan cars, six-wheeled cars, and cast iron production block turbocharged 2 liter inline 4s producing over 1300HP before Le Mans cars even had a monocoque.
BoP is the only thing keeping Porsche from winning more WEC races
Vettel put up a 1:41.501 in Q2 qualifying in 2018, a few months after the 919 set that 1:41.77 lap. Nice try.
Yeah, Video is kinda outdated.
official track records can only be set in races, not in qualifying or training. still you are somewhat right. if an f1 car would be unshackled it probably would be too much for a human to handle ( compare to this "unshackled" f1 prototype red bull developed for gran turismo 4 ( i think it was 4)).
@@homerp.hendelbergenheinzel6649Gran Turismo 5.
@@emmodesgemmodes3110Qualifying or practice lap times are kinda silly as you could theoretically run it so hard the tires only survive one lap for that record. Would that lap record be legit or even realistic to allow teams to push the car that far.
@@RP-hn1qcand by that logic what was the porsche lap?
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Nordschleife & Spa. The places where Bellof made history and lost his life.
Such a great loss for the motorsports.
Short version: if you have a virtually unlimited budget and no rules, you'll be faster. The end.
Imagine what an F1 car without any regulations could do.
You end up with either top fuel dragsters (8 g's of acceleration is an absolute monster), or you end up with rocket/turbine cars.
@@Ornithopter470ignoramus. The vehicles has to be able to negotiate a track or road.
It is not about driving fast in a straight line for a few hundred meters. So incredibly clueless.
19:01 Great Video! But I would love to know which resources were limited? Money, Time? Both?
The Porsche is really impressive, but the title of the video is obvious clickbait for anyone who follows any of this. The 919 did not make F1 look "slow" and as one poster already stated:
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Lewis, Seb, and Kimi both beat the record in q2 2018. Would have been faster had it not rained in q3."
It took VERY little time for F1 cars following F1 rules to make the unbound/unrestricted 919 less than 2nd place on a real track.
I believe KERS was already being used in 1998 in F1. Albeit limited.
Comparing to F1 is silly. If you just build a vehical to be fast on a track it would look similar to LMP1 prototype anyway, because you will cover every area of drag with bodywork, no open wheels and maximise ground effects.
It be crazy if there was a truly unlimited race series with legit no rules get around the track as fast as possible just don’t kill yourself or others doing so
There has been. The lates 60s and early 70s Can-Am series.
@@williamp6800 my bad I didn’t specify but I meant a modern no restrictions racing series
Probably gas turbine ( easily 2000hp), CVT transmission, active suspension, etc
remember that porsche and audi are the same family... that should tell you something about their dominance
Needs a Pikes Peak time ;)
wierd large front end lights suggest you *could* possibly scoop of this body and lay down atop a fibreglass stretch of a 911...like funny cars in drag racing, uncanny shape but youd loose all the aerodymanics applications and effect, probably a bad idea lol
the porsche had a very short time deadline and they said themselves it had alot of rules. additionally they had a decently low budget.
The move to Formula E was also because of Dieselgate. Audi went Formula E a year sooner. ;)
F1 is deliberately hobbled to keep the cars relatively slow. Every year the formula is updated to hobble them more as the constructors find workarounds for the rules.
If just F1 didn't have resrictions....
Ok, you convinced me; it seems to be a good product. Where can I buy one? Does the car dealer accept payment in cash?
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Overall a nice presentation. If that's a person speaking, got the German and French pronunciations pretty well. However, when you have a time that ends in xx.77, that is NOT 77 milliseconds. This error was repeated multiple times, so the script writer's probably at fault. A.I. or not, proof-reading seems to be a dying art!
It is a person indeed! Thank you for the feedback as you are absolutely correct, and thank you for watching the video :)
That was not the W11, not even close. The W11 is 1.5 seconds faster around Spa than then W08. The W11 also has a halo, wider front wink, no shark fin, and the most obvious difference of all: it was a black car.
No it didn't,it was not homologated so was not race spec while f1 is. If we made the f1 car unrestricted ,it would be a fair comparison.
As you said right at the beginning of your video. The Porsche was completely outside the realms of any rule book, Whereas the Mercedes W11 was restricted by a rule book thicker than the bible. The comparison is ridiculous. Give the W11 Active Suspension and Traction Control and then make the comparison.
If an actual formula one driver had been in the car, those times would be even lower.
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oh my god thats the car the myth the legend the japanese race car from the cars 2 world grand prix
Ah yes, the 24H lamal.
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the crazy thing is that this thing was still a LMP1, an unrestricted one, but a LMP1. Same 2.0 engine, chassis, etc...
An LMP1 car is a car that's able to compete under the regulations of the LMP1 class. So not, the 919 Evo isn't an LMP1 car. But it is based on one.
For comparison. You wouldn't just take a Forumla 1 car, pimp it to the max without regulations in mind and still call it an F1 car, desspite it being outlawed from competing in F1 races, would you?
@emmodesgemmodes3110 let me explain better, if you take a F1 car, and "unrestrict" it, so you try to find the best efficiency possible on that actual project on aero, powertrain, etc, then yes, it's still a F1 car (that, for obvious reasons cannot compete in the FIA F1 championship, but that's pretty obvious I think :)
The 919 evo uses the exact same engine of the 919h, without restrictors and different map, the chassis is literally the same as well, they made the aero more efficient, stiffen the suspensions and stripped out useless things for a hotlap (headlights, air conditioning...)
Of course it cannot compete in the WEC championship, but the car it's still a lmp1 mate... Many people think it's the attempt of Porsche in making the fastest possible car around a lap, when it actually is their attempt of making an actual LMP1 as fast as possible; and that's way way different; and that's why this thing is so an engineering marvel. A LMP1 that can run F1 times around a lap, simply by being unrestricted.
I bet most people would be mind blown if someone tried the vice-versa, so "unrestricteing and modifying" an actual F1 to made it last 24h non-stop, and still run LMP1 times around the La Sarthe circuit. I hope I explained myself better this time
that is not tru the evo hade no restrictiojs only a 919 b9dy and the rest was not lmp1 anymore because lmp1 is a regulation and the evo would fail all!
@@jeroenverzijl8596 your words against Porsche engineers 😭😭
Yes, a gas turbine and CVT and higher power hybrid system could shave more seconds in a truly unrestricted car
That thing would get curb stomped by a F1 car that’s free of regulations
Unlikely, mostly due to covered wheels being superior aerodynamically.
What was the mileage between the weight and small displacement engine ?
Another nonsense comparison between these two.
Imagine something unrestricted competing against something heavily restricted, who do you think will come on top!??
most bada$$ Porsche EVER!!!!!!
F1 with no rules would be crazy 💀💀
Alright. This is not actually a fair comparison. the Porsche is a wide open Prototype, and the F! car has regulations to follow. Give the F1 designers to go limitless, then we'd see things a little differently.
This is by far not the fastest possible car. It's just the fastest you can get out of an existing concept without the regulations.
If they would build a car from scratch.... with like a V12, Bi-Turbo, additional Hybrid System, ground effect, fan, flex wings, active aero, wider wheels... that car would be waaay faster.
no way he said the porche beat the W11. This man trippin 😭💀
Hmmm its fast but not sure it made F1 look slow. An F1 car set up for Nurnbergring would likely take back the record.
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Oh 919 without regulations vs F1 full of regulations 😂😂😂 what comparison is that?!
Did I hear correctly. A 2.0 liter turbocharged V4?
Lighter and better for acceleration, not good for top speed which is why the bugatti doesn't use them. Bugatti hits about 440km/hr whereas this car hits 369km/hr. Bugatti is 2.4 seconds for 0-100km/hr, whereas this car is 2.0 seconds 0-100km/hr.
@@----.__ Could a Bugatti do it for multiple laps? Say...10 laps?
to be honest, f1 cars have V6 motors and they are still cooking that electric trash into powder. an f1 car goes with 300 km/h at a regular speed.
Unrestricted lmp1 vs restricted f1
More specs and technical details. Less hyperbole.
This claim only makes sense if you are not old enough to remember the Can-Am.
Modern F1 lawnmowers make F1 look slow.
German engineering and production.
So of course im trying to set up a few laps at the Nürburgring. Any suggestions? I'm thinking I want something like a Renault Alpine A110S.
911 will just get me into trouble...lol
1980 Rabbit GTI. lol.
That is a car built for the fastest drivers in the world
The commentator pronounced Le Mans perfectly but couldn’t properly pronounce a German manufacturer, what’s with that?
Not sure which German manufacturer your commenting about.
@@simmo5071
Porche. Properly pronounced like it has no E. But the it seems everyone says it like Porsh A.
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Fun fact: Dr. Ferdinand Porche was quoted as saying (way back when) that the Jeep CJ-5 was the true American sports car.
@@simmo5071 and a fun question (as I sit here with my morning cup of Joe): who the hell came up with the finger loops on coffee cups???
Lol. He pronounces Porsche better than you spell it. I just love it when people correct me on how I pronounce Porsche but when I ask them what they drive they say ‘bee em double u’. So I drive a Porschah but you don’t drive a ‘bay em way’. Enjoy the excellent video and leave the pronunciations to the Germans.
17:39 thats not really true! Porsche was really successful with McLaren as their engine developer. It might not be a whole 100% Porsche team but, their F1 experience is younger than 1964!
Quite the other way around. It was Porsche who supplied engines to the Mc Laren F1 team.
@@tomwoggle9411 yeah thats what i said! I am sorry if you dont get it! 😅🤦♂️
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Threw away the rule book and went POINT seven faster than the record holding F1 car. Image a no rules F1 team building a car...
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How much more money than everyone else have they spent?
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mercedes: 🛫🛫🛫🛫🛫🛫🛫
I just wonder if Toyota would be faster around the Nurburgring with an unrestricted Toyota TS050, considering the fact that the TS050 set the Le Mans lap record. So maybe that’s something we have to wait and see. But however, Toyota Gazoo Racong seems to be focusing on other things like cars in the WEC, WRC, GT3, GT4. GT500 and others.
An all out unrestricted lmp1 battle would be insane
How does the Mazda 787B compare?
@@PatriciaMarshall-s2i The Mazda 787B lacks the downforce to beat the LMP1’s
@@PatriciaMarshall-s2i Like Sharanga said it lacks the needed downforce, also I think it's down on power compared to the p1s by quite a bit
now lets see a no regulation f1 car
Wash the driver out of the cockpit with a hose at the end.