Two things about that car, 1; how quiet it was, in my entire career I had never heard the tyres working as hard as they did! 2; the gearbox was the Achilles heel on that car but the knew that and planned accordingly and when they changed the box during the race in 5mins! I remember watching those 19 people changing it in utter amazement!
@@ederss7 On the R10, in the end, we changed the entire gear cassette way under 10min. The rules only wanted the gearbox case to make the entire race. On the R8 we changed the everything behind the engine box suspensions, brakes, the crash box with its wing carrier and other bits. By lifting the R10 on its nose we didn't have to re-fill the gear box, just a quick top-up. Dozens of trick like that and design changes made it possible.
Something alot of people forget is that diesels have a huge market share in Europe and are still being developed by BMW and Mercedes especially. In the US diesel is for big trucks only, but like 40% of normal passanger cars in Europe are still diesel.
Also the diesel in Europe is of another quality, that is simply why the US don't have the European diesel cars. The European 3l engine performs almost the same as an 6l US version but does even better on fuel consumption. This summer I drove in Scandinavia where I could maintain constant speed for a long distance. I made 1400 km with a BMW 530d Xdrive on a 70l tank.
@@azi6477 Thats because US fuel is by far not that good as on the european market. Thats a point, why the Diesel failed in the USA, too. The German Diesels are not made for such a bad fuel qualitly. I dont talk from old Mercedes Diesel, which where built 50 years ago. But modern Diesel need good fuel.
@@MotorLegends-stories Now germans want take a piece of cake from electric cars and force and pussh lobby in the EU to ban diesel engines 😅 so-called "wisdom of the stage"
Took a V10, cut off two cylinders, called it a V....8.... Yeah? Is there anyone who WOULDN'T do this? Because if they wouldn't, then they can't count gud....
@@dinorossi6611 I happy they have have clients like yourself to continue scamming the masses without any remors whatsoever. It's continueing today with all tehse VERY small capacity 3 cylinder engines with turbos. Designed to fool the road tests again as when you use the turbos they emit as much CO2 and consume as much fuel as the large engines they have replaced, so no gain there EXCEPT on paper again as you CAN drive them w'out using the turbos and that's how they pass emissions tests. This bubble will also burst one day soon.
I've just recently bought an Audi TT Quattro with the TDI engine, and It's incredible. The torque at low revs in 4th, 5th and 6th is staggering plus the fuel consumption, it just puts a smile on my face every time I drive it , not bad at all for a hairdressers car
Repair costs for audi diesels are insane. One diesel injector costs 800euros used! Be ready to spend 20k euros for repairs at 130tkm. Everything blows up at that mileage.
@@Aapeli0071 You're on some serious crack my dude... please show me used OEM injectors that cost 800€ per injector... and 130k? Really? So my tuned A3 should be already scrapped at 250k?
That is what pörhö audi center oulu in finland sold them to me for. They said new ones are even more expensive. And there is lot of other reliability issues too. Ac screen lost pixels. Ac went out first during winter and then during summer. Haldex diff broken at 110tkm even though we had serviced it and cleaned the filter. Sun roof frame cracked due to heat expansion. There is a lawsuit about the sun roof frame in usa. Thousands of euros worth of issues. We sold the car and didnt get all of these fixed because it was so expensive.
I'd been working decades as a german sales manager until today and always (!) had diesel cars. It's pure excitement and fun to drive a 3l Audi TDI with six cylinders on a german autobahn at 230 km/h speed, trust me! 🤩
Not as much fun as Basel to Kehl in 35 minutes with 6 litres of Jaguar V12 straight through exhausts and ITB induction 5 speed manual.Im sure there might be some Germans who can remember being overtaken by it that night. While the Le Mans diesel victories were more about the laughable anti petrol engine regs with capacity limits and throttle restrictors.
@@confederatenationalist7283 Though I agree about how the anti-petrol regs were indeed a joke, for Audi to dominate the way it did was pretty badass still! Sounded like spaceships too!
@@rahulmandala4930 The high point of Le Mans for me was the big Group C Sauber V8 Mercedes v TWR Jaguar V12. Take out the chicanes on the Mulsanne then put the diesel Audi's against that proper petrol opposition.Also include the Mercedes 7.3 V12 all with no throttle restrictors. It's now a battle of saving ICE from the EV zealots and the manufacturers aren't helping in that. Also think it's laughable how the EV fans claim an acceleration advantage from mechanical transmission v torque converter with ICE.
All Le Mans engines of the time, since there were radical differences in engine size, aspiration, cylinder count etc, had air restrictors on them to try and equalize performance, subject to ongoing tweaks in restrictor size to maintain parity. I asked one of the Audi mechanics at an ALMS race the car was at back then "If you guys took the air restrictor off, how much power could it make?" The mechanic replied "Well, I did ask one of the German engineers a similar question, and he gave me a little bit of a round about answer. He said with the air restrictors removed, they would reprofile the camshafts, re-map the engine at a minimum to get the most out of not having the restrictors. So, I asked him "1,000 hp?" and he pointed his thumb up and waved it as if to say it could easily do more than that, but also have to consider that the engine needs to last for a 24 hour endurance race. As you get way above the current power levels, the immense pressures generated at such power levels will have a negative impact on reliability." Audi's LMP cars were always technological marvels, and even cooler than that is their race cars often acted as test beds for technology that were soon to make it into production cars. The R8 began using (T)FSI in 2000, by 2004 that injection technology would be in their production gasoline cars. Commonrail injection had been used by Audi in V8s since about 1999, but it was really limited to that one engine for a number of years until the mid 2000s. The VW Pumpe Duse injection technology could actually obtain higher injection pressures than those early commonrail systems. The R10 was their test bed for significantly higher injection pressures with commonrail engines PLUS they put particulate traps on the race car, both because those were something that would be globally required on production cars soon, but also because the rules stated the cars could not emit visible smoke. This is a big part of the reason why the cars were so quiet as well, closed-cell particulate traps are some of the most effective mufflers out there. In a time where other racing series were either stuck in the past or in tightly controlled formulas where minimal innovation was happening (IndyCar) and F1 had wild engine technology that had very little practical use cases in a production car (expensive, exotic materials, insanely high revs with pneumatic valve closure), Le Mans prototypes were in the middle allowing very innovative engine technology that did indeed go onto be implemented into production cars. FSI (aka GDI) was not practical in F1 because the engines revved too fast to accurately meter fuel with direct injection. They were fueled via individual throttle body injectors that could operate without pulsing the injectors at wide open loads... But clearly for lower-revving Le Mans prototypes and road cars, there is a huge advantage to direct injection: you can run substantially higher compression ratios and boost levels without pre-detonation. And it gives higher volumetric efficiency, as the engine can injest 100% air, close the intake valves and begin compressing just air prior to injecting the fuel directly into the combustion chamber.
I went to Sebring in '06 with my cousin's husband who had never been to any kind of race, and to him the 'noise' was unbearable, yet he marveled in wonder how the leading car and eventual winner - guess who - was almost silent...there were a couple Vipers chasing the equally loud ass factory Corvettes for the rest of us. 🏁
Because his channel is only 2 months old. He’s ripping off “The Squidd” to a point. I mean, the Tumbnails are near identical in their presentation. Good videos, but riding on the coattails of Squidd.
Diesel engines don't get the love they so rightfully deserve: if an engine can benefit from 30% energy denser fuel and have huge amounts of low end torque, then it's clearly superior to gasoline engines. It's just plain and simple physics. I cannot comprehend why most people have difficulty understanding these facts.
Only turbo charged. I drove an N/A Diesel Opel Corsa B. It was the worst thing i have ever driven in my life. And they are running rougher, sound is shit compared. But for a salesman in his VW Passaton the "Autobahn" its the best thing in the world.
@@Superstocker669 an Opel Corsa is a small town car designed to be cheap, with a tiny engine. That does not mean that all diesel engines are like that.
@@AnnatarTheMaia Not the point. That was just a example that an N/A Diesel ist just a shity engine. Corsa B was just the last Generation where you could drive a N/A Diesel yourself. A Diesel always needs a turbo, at least in a car. And a same sized petrol engine with turbo is always superior to the diesel. If i remember correct in 24h 2006 turbo charged allowed engine size was: petrol only 2.0 L turbo diesel 3.4L N/A petrol 3.5L or something.
Another advantage of having a turbo diesel in an endurance racer is that the torque, smoothness and wide powerband takes a ton of stress off the driver. The gassers work a lot harder to produce power. That's the genius of the V12 TDI.....a luxury style race engine.
@@hoost3056 yes off course. But if you allow a turbo charged petrol engine with the same displacement it would smoke the turbo diesel. This Reglement was tailored for a diesel win. And the only opponent that year was a small french privateer team.
I attended the Petit Le Mans race at Road Atlanta for 5 of the annual event between 2007 & 2012. It was as amazing a weekend each time as could be. my recall of it yields the observation that the C6 Corvettes & the Panoz were the eye candy / what everyone was "Oooing" & looking at all weekend but there was an aura around the Audi teams & these Diesel powered beasts which was tangible. The 3-4 TDI cars were in a seemingly race of their own more than once. Simply dominating race cars , the vibe was who will win & which position did you get after the Audi team ,of course.... occasionally you get a car that is incomparable & for this window of time in history,these Audi were top racecar during turn of the millennium 2000s.
The R8R is the reason I'm still an Audi fan to this day. I remember when the TDI R10 came out, I thought "they did what?" Looking forward to the follow up vid on the TDI Hybrid, origin of the E-tron badge.
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Bro 😮 I was literally just tapping next, next, next through random automotive videos on my phone cause nothing was grabbing my attention, but when this video started playing I don't know why, but you grabbed my attention. I wasn't even a quarter of the way through the video and I thought to myself, yup, this channel is getting a sub! Once it ended, I did exactly that, but when doing that, I was genuinely surprised. I was surprised at how few subs you have! Now I say that because you're narrating, editing, tone, information/substance etc. and just overall good quality content had me automatically assuming this channel was another big channel that I just hadn't heard of yet. Long story short, respect. You undoubtedly have exactly what you need for this recipe, and boy can you cook! 🙌🏻 I honestly feel that simplicity is key. However, I can fully understand how hard it would be keeping a video informative, engaging yet simple at the same time, nevertheless, I feel you've nailed it. But then again, what do I actually know about this stuff anyways 😜 lol my point is, don't stop, you're good at this, and I hope that, even in some small way, this comment indicates exactly that 😊
The first road race I went to was the 2006 Petit Le Mans. I was young, and didn't know much about cars or IMSA. Most cars sounded like angry bees, the Corvettes had roaring and throaty-sounding engines, Mercedes AMG GT cars had a smoother-sounding roar, and these Audi's sounded like a pleasant and quiet sigh / hum. They fascinated me, so I rooted for them. For the first few laps, I thought they might've been electric. I remember the announcers and fans held skepticism for the new turbo-diesel engine. I didn't know enough about engines to know what that meant, but I continued to cheer them on and was very happy when they won. I was also rooting for the Corvettes in GT-1, and they did okay, but they did not win their class. I also rooted for what I called the "DHL" cars for LMP2, which now I know were the Porsche RS Spyders from Penske. They won LMP2. Just going off of the sounds and sights of the cars, I was able to pick the winner for LMP1 and LMP2. :D I remember the Nissan Delta Wing was also being introduced, and I was disappointed that they didn't race it after hyping it up at their display.
Subbed. The vintage almost kind of feel on these videos are awesome. Music and background track is good, definitely dont go too loud with it tho! I love these videos youve got. I bet youll reach 100k subs some day
I love how You show videos from 2006 like they would be from the 80'. As for the audi's TDI engine, it was so great that they are using it till today... oh, wait! They aren't.
I grew up with TDIs, learned to drive in a 79 Rabbit TDI, drove to uni in a 04 Passat TDI, bought a Golf wagon TDI later and even got it bought back from VW after the diesel scandal. Too bad really, but have to wonder where TDI technology would be today without that scandal. 😢
Something you missed in your excellent overview were the overall advances in diesel combustion process, with the car fitted with and EGR and DPF filters that worked so incredibly well the only clean spot on the car was around the exhuast pipes, whilst the rest of the car was covered in race spackle. When forced to re-size and restrictor plate the engines, they did so whilst improving there fuel economy for the same power and just going faster the next year. The borg warner turbo controls set what would become the standard for VGT Turbos in the modern world, capable of producing real boost 5+ psi at idle. Improvements in injection systems and high pressure rails, they jacked up the pressure to the limmits (something modern diesels now do), the shape of the pison bowls. I could go on for a month i really could, they started with a literal dirty stinky laggy diesel, and turned it onto a weapon a propper weapon. Signed. A propper diesel nutter
I was lucky enough to see a pair of these cars race. They are hauling around the corner right in front of you, and you can just hear a little drivetrain whine. Meanwhile the other gasoline cars are 3/4 km away coming towards you and thats all you can hear.
I love that audi had a petrol and diesel car at the same time/race and made a bet intern which car will win. They didn‘t even think about ANY other would win. 😂
I remember reading a report about he first TDI win and the journalist said it was almost comical that this car was beating the pack with almost double the range in between pitstops, while sounding like a Jetsons spaceship while doing so. 😂
Hi, these are things that can only happen when people think outside the tracks, not to mention that the whole Audi chain of command also had to take chances, very well done indeed. It is however a pity that we see the exact opposite in the industry, where big companies are paying billions to buy little disruptive startups to In Fine close them because their product(s) were threatening their market… Excellent video that covers everything from end to end, which is important for people who are not specialists of car races. :)
I went to this race. I’d say at the time no one thought pescarolo had a chance, there was no huge shock that Audi kicked ass as their cars had been raced in the LeMans series earlier that year. The big question was if the injectors would fail (and issue the car had been having) and the gearbox which got hammered by the torque as other posters have mentioned. It sounded so strange, other cars you could hear coming almost a mile away. The R10 you heard a whistle from the turbos and the squeal of wheels but the engine itself was really quiet.
I can’t wait to see how Audi manage to tackle Formula 1?! Just like Porsche, Audi loves a new challenge and loves dominating in whatever series they compete.
I remember that first race with the diesel engines it was cool, i said right at the beginning of the race that if they were reliable the fuel efficiency alone would save a lot of time in pits
निरंतर दबाव प्रक्रिया आधारित अंतर दहन यंत्र ने बहुत प्रभावित किया, किंतु VW के बाद का डीज़लगेट कांड ने प्रगती पर विराम लगा दिया और डीज़ल फिर से बदनाम होगये ; वैसे गहन शोध, स्पष्ट अवलोकन, प्रज्ञावान विश्लेषण और बहुत सुंदर प्रस्तुति 👏👏👌👌👌।
Taurus Sports Racing had been at le man with a Diesel for a few years prior to the R10. The Taurus was using a diesel based on the unit in a VW road car, but essentially VAG had a diesel car at le man in 2004
Yep, diesel was all the rage in Europe during that era as the auto builders had convinced the market that diesels were clean and healthy for everyone...and then the facts materialized. Still its nice that Audi beat a different path just to show it could be done.
Its the same people that convinced that vaccines are good for your health and electric cars are going to save the envirnoment. The tarded rule completely today.
I had 2 vw tdi powered cars. An 02 jetta automatic and an 03 golf 5 speed. Now direct injection and smaller turbo charged engines are mainstream with gasoline. I have a 2021 1500 silverado with 2.7 turbo 4 cylinder and a 2017 vw jetta 1.4 tsi turbo charged direct injection engine. Tourque is in by 1500 rpms and there is plenty of power for highways. Jetta will get 52 mpg when cruising. My truck about 24 mpg on 93 octane.
If I recall correctly, 90% of the car could be disassembled with only a couple of wrenches. At least by the time they got to the R18s it was down to 2. Every mechanic with a full tool set for the car in their pocket. Genius. I watched them change an entire turbo assembly in a few minutes on the R18. It was still glowing red hot when they pulled it out. That poor mechanic was probably wearing every glove in the shop but he ripped it out and carried it out (and I assume handed it off to the bomb squad lol).
Sitting on spectator hill at Road Atlanta for start of Petit in 2008 when Allan McNish crash the R10 in the formation lap. We sat there looking at each other saying, "There's no way that just happened, right?"
Good Video What's funny is about the same time as Audi taking a TDI to LeMans I was swapping a TDI into a corrado to replace a VR6. What would be ideal would be diesel plug in hybrids but sadly diesel....
You mentioned the Bosch fuel injection system operating at 23,000 psi...Cummins equipped Dodge Ram pickups from that era (I own one) have high pressure fuel injection systems that operate at 26,000 psi...newer ones are operating at 28k+.
To be honest, to me it made sense from the beginning to use a Diesel car in an endurance race with the layout LeMans has. (back then, not just in hindsight) It's about how far you can go in 24 hours and the fewer times you need to stop for fuel, the more you increase your average speed. Stopping for fuel decreases the average way more than being a little bit slower in topseed or accelleration. And by the time Audi did that, Mercedes even sold a Diesel AMG car. So much for the european knowing that a Diesel can be fast. As for common rail: Common RAil Diesels were also not invented by Audi. The VW conglomerate (Which included Audi) did what they called "Pumpe-Düse" ="Pump-injectornozzle" Meaning they didn't use Common rail at first but had a pump for each direct injecting injector. Other (european) manufacturers instead chose common rail technology to match VW's power output and fuel efficiency. (the c in Mercedes cdi stands for common rail, and they started selling those in 2000 or 2001. (just to name one user of common rail Diesel technology) Thing is, the VW solution became a dead end, and so they switched to common rail too.
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“Diesels are heavier”
Vw made gas and diesels with the same block and rotating assembly ohhhh
Only since about since 1975😂
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Two things about that car, 1; how quiet it was, in my entire career I had never heard the tyres working as hard as they did! 2; the gearbox was the Achilles heel on that car but the knew that and planned accordingly and when they changed the box during the race in 5mins! I remember watching those 19 people changing it in utter amazement!
That's some nice insight! Thank you, and hope you enjoyed the video :)
The gearbox change was done on the R8, not R10.
@@ederss7 On the R10, in the end, we changed the entire gear cassette way under 10min. The rules only wanted the gearbox case to make the entire race. On the R8 we changed the everything behind the engine box suspensions, brakes, the crash box with its wing carrier and other bits. By lifting the R10 on its nose we didn't have to re-fill the gear box, just a quick top-up. Dozens of trick like that and design changes made it possible.
I can't imagine how in the fuck 19 people could work on one car at once.
@@LG-ct8twHow about tricks and design changes to prevent failures in the first place?
Something alot of people forget is that diesels have a huge market share in Europe and are still being developed by BMW and Mercedes especially. In the US diesel is for big trucks only, but like 40% of normal passanger cars in Europe are still diesel.
There’s no denying that the Germans make great diesels!
Also the diesel in Europe is of another quality, that is simply why the US don't have the European diesel cars. The European 3l engine performs almost the same as an 6l US version but does even better on fuel consumption. This summer I drove in Scandinavia where I could maintain constant speed for a long distance. I made 1400 km with a BMW 530d Xdrive on a 70l tank.
@@azi6477 Thats because US fuel is by far not that good as on the european market. Thats a point, why the Diesel failed in the USA, too. The German Diesels are not made for such a bad fuel qualitly. I dont talk from old Mercedes Diesel, which where built 50 years ago. But modern Diesel need good fuel.
VW just put 60 billion € into combustion motor development, and that includes Diesel, too.
@@MotorLegends-stories Now germans want take a piece of cake from electric cars and force and pussh lobby in the EU to ban diesel engines 😅 so-called "wisdom of the stage"
Not surprised. These are the same people who took a V10, cut 2 cylinders off, called it a V8, and put it into a sports sedan, coupe, and supercar.
Well here in USA land they just add 2 cyl to a v8 and call them v10s. Works great
Took a V10, cut off two cylinders, called it a V....8.... Yeah? Is there anyone who WOULDN'T do this? Because if they wouldn't, then they can't count gud....
And a wagon
Yeah that crankshaft would do some real fun dance. For about a second. 😉
What an educated statement.
"Enough torque to change the rotation of the Earth"
There i fixed it
It almost did with the VW Group dieselgate scam that ensued.
@@Team33Team33grow up kid
@@Team33Team33😂😂😂
@@Team33Team33 Still, VW are immaculate engines. I admire them for that 'scam'. Gods of mechanical engineering.
@@dinorossi6611 I happy they have have clients like yourself to continue scamming the masses without any remors whatsoever.
It's continueing today with all tehse VERY small capacity 3 cylinder engines with turbos.
Designed to fool the road tests again as when you use the turbos they emit as much CO2 and consume as much fuel as the large engines they have replaced, so no gain there EXCEPT on paper again as you CAN drive them w'out using the turbos and that's how they pass emissions tests.
This bubble will also burst one day soon.
I've just recently bought an Audi TT Quattro with the TDI engine, and It's incredible. The torque at low revs in 4th, 5th and 6th is staggering plus the fuel consumption, it just puts a smile on my face every time I drive it , not bad at all for a hairdressers car
wait until you need to repair it, even somplest jobs are engine out
Repair costs for audi diesels are insane. One diesel injector costs 800euros used! Be ready to spend 20k euros for repairs at 130tkm. Everything blows up at that mileage.
Straight up bullshit. Diesel Injector is about 200-300€ new. @@Aapeli0071
@@Aapeli0071 You're on some serious crack my dude... please show me used OEM injectors that cost 800€ per injector... and 130k? Really? So my tuned A3 should be already scrapped at 250k?
That is what pörhö audi center oulu in finland sold them to me for. They said new ones are even more expensive. And there is lot of other reliability issues too. Ac screen lost pixels. Ac went out first during winter and then during summer. Haldex diff broken at 110tkm even though we had serviced it and cleaned the filter. Sun roof frame cracked due to heat expansion. There is a lawsuit about the sun roof frame in usa. Thousands of euros worth of issues. We sold the car and didnt get all of these fixed because it was so expensive.
I sense a good automotive story-telling channel, always loved listening to many different stories in this industry, u got yourself a new sub
Thank you for subbing and for watching, Josh!
I'd been working decades as a german sales manager until today and always (!) had diesel cars. It's pure excitement and fun to drive a 3l Audi TDI with six cylinders on a german autobahn at 230 km/h speed, trust me! 🤩
Not as much fun as Basel to Kehl in 35 minutes with 6 litres of Jaguar V12 straight through exhausts and ITB induction 5 speed manual.Im sure there might be some Germans who can remember being overtaken by it that night.
While the Le Mans diesel victories were more about the laughable anti petrol engine regs with capacity limits and throttle restrictors.
Immense torque is something that you can't deny, it feels different@@confederatenationalist7283
Sales manager: trust me 😂😂. Just kidding, couldn’t let this one go.
@@confederatenationalist7283 Though I agree about how the anti-petrol regs were indeed a joke, for Audi to dominate the way it did was pretty badass still! Sounded like spaceships too!
@@rahulmandala4930
The high point of Le Mans for me was the big Group C Sauber V8 Mercedes v TWR Jaguar V12.
Take out the chicanes on the Mulsanne then put the diesel Audi's against that proper petrol opposition.Also include the Mercedes 7.3 V12 all with no throttle restrictors.
It's now a battle of saving ICE from the EV zealots and the manufacturers aren't helping in that.
Also think it's laughable how the EV fans claim an acceleration advantage from mechanical transmission v torque converter with ICE.
All Le Mans engines of the time, since there were radical differences in engine size, aspiration, cylinder count etc, had air restrictors on them to try and equalize performance, subject to ongoing tweaks in restrictor size to maintain parity.
I asked one of the Audi mechanics at an ALMS race the car was at back then "If you guys took the air restrictor off, how much power could it make?"
The mechanic replied "Well, I did ask one of the German engineers a similar question, and he gave me a little bit of a round about answer. He said with the air restrictors removed, they would reprofile the camshafts, re-map the engine at a minimum to get the most out of not having the restrictors. So, I asked him "1,000 hp?" and he pointed his thumb up and waved it as if to say it could easily do more than that, but also have to consider that the engine needs to last for a 24 hour endurance race. As you get way above the current power levels, the immense pressures generated at such power levels will have a negative impact on reliability."
Audi's LMP cars were always technological marvels, and even cooler than that is their race cars often acted as test beds for technology that were soon to make it into production cars.
The R8 began using (T)FSI in 2000, by 2004 that injection technology would be in their production gasoline cars.
Commonrail injection had been used by Audi in V8s since about 1999, but it was really limited to that one engine for a number of years until the mid 2000s. The VW Pumpe Duse injection technology could actually obtain higher injection pressures than those early commonrail systems. The R10 was their test bed for significantly higher injection pressures with commonrail engines PLUS they put particulate traps on the race car, both because those were something that would be globally required on production cars soon, but also because the rules stated the cars could not emit visible smoke. This is a big part of the reason why the cars were so quiet as well, closed-cell particulate traps are some of the most effective mufflers out there.
In a time where other racing series were either stuck in the past or in tightly controlled formulas where minimal innovation was happening (IndyCar) and F1 had wild engine technology that had very little practical use cases in a production car (expensive, exotic materials, insanely high revs with pneumatic valve closure), Le Mans prototypes were in the middle allowing very innovative engine technology that did indeed go onto be implemented into production cars.
FSI (aka GDI) was not practical in F1 because the engines revved too fast to accurately meter fuel with direct injection. They were fueled via individual throttle body injectors that could operate without pulsing the injectors at wide open loads... But clearly for lower-revving Le Mans prototypes and road cars, there is a huge advantage to direct injection: you can run substantially higher compression ratios and boost levels without pre-detonation. And it gives higher volumetric efficiency, as the engine can injest 100% air, close the intake valves and begin compressing just air prior to injecting the fuel directly into the combustion chamber.
I went to Sebring in '06 with my cousin's husband who had never been to any kind of race, and to him the 'noise' was unbearable, yet he marveled in wonder how the leading car and eventual winner - guess who - was almost silent...there were a couple Vipers chasing the equally loud ass factory Corvettes for the rest of us. 🏁
What do you mean you ONLY have 430 subs??? This is top quality!!
Thank you! And thanks for watching :)
Exactly. Judging by the quality, i assumed the dude to have more than 100K Subs loll. Underrated guy
Yea, I had to do a double take.
586K subs? not bad for a channel I haven't seen yet.
Wait a sec... There's no 'k' !
Because his channel is only 2 months old.
He’s ripping off “The Squidd” to a point. I mean, the Tumbnails are near identical in their presentation.
Good videos, but riding on the coattails of Squidd.
exactly. just seen the vid and up for more.
wtf i thought this was a big ass channel from the quality of video… good shit brother keep grinding!
That’s great to hear, thanks dude!
The great Ulrich Baretsky was the engine guy. Legend.
Well done! Thoroughly enjoyed by someone who has driven Audis for over 40 years.
Thanks for watching
The R10 never had an engine failure. Its competitor, the 908, broke down three engines in a single race (Le Mans 2010).
Ehm. There is not one single engine failure Audi had overall with their LMP Cars. Not one. From 1999 to 2016.
@@honda900000 Yes. Amazing feat.
Bring back the TDI! I love my 2015, but would like to buy a new one.
Very nice! The editing is simple but effective. But it’s always nice to hear the story of how the Audi R10 TDI came to be, besides winning Le Mans.
Thanks for watching!
Other German engineers mocked the audi guys in testing by calling the audi car a "heating oil ferrari"
... and then got absolutely humiliated. My favourite kind of story.
@@arcuz7862 And then Porsche humiliated Audi with a 2.0 liter gasoline engine.
@@PistonAvatarGuymeh tiny gas engines are boring
@@Michael-lu2tz Yeah, winning races sure is boring!
@@Michael-lu2tz And have you ever heard a diesel race car? They're the most boring sounding things possible!
Diesel engines don't get the love they so rightfully deserve: if an engine can benefit from 30% energy denser fuel and have huge amounts of low end torque, then it's clearly superior to gasoline engines. It's just plain and simple physics. I cannot comprehend why most people have difficulty understanding these facts.
Only turbo charged. I drove an N/A Diesel Opel Corsa B. It was the worst thing i have ever driven in my life. And they are running rougher, sound is shit compared. But for a salesman in his VW Passaton the "Autobahn" its the best thing in the world.
@@Superstocker669 an Opel Corsa is a small town car designed to be cheap, with a tiny engine. That does not mean that all diesel engines are like that.
@@AnnatarTheMaia Not the point. That was just a example that an N/A Diesel ist just a shity engine. Corsa B was just the last Generation where you could drive a N/A Diesel yourself. A Diesel always needs a turbo, at least in a car. And a same sized petrol engine with turbo is always superior to the diesel.
If i remember correct in 24h 2006 turbo charged allowed engine size was: petrol only 2.0 L turbo diesel 3.4L
N/A petrol 3.5L or something.
Another advantage of having a turbo diesel in an endurance racer is that the torque, smoothness and wide powerband takes a ton of stress off the driver. The gassers work a lot harder to produce power. That's the genius of the V12 TDI.....a luxury style race engine.
@@hoost3056 yes off course. But if you allow a turbo charged petrol engine with the same displacement it would smoke the turbo diesel. This Reglement was tailored for a diesel win. And the only opponent that year was a small french privateer team.
I attended the Petit Le Mans race at Road Atlanta for 5 of the annual event between 2007 & 2012. It was as amazing a weekend each time as could be.
my recall of it yields the observation that the C6 Corvettes & the Panoz were the eye candy / what everyone was "Oooing" & looking at all weekend but there was an aura around the Audi teams & these Diesel powered beasts which was tangible. The 3-4 TDI cars were in a seemingly race of their own more than once. Simply dominating race cars , the vibe was who will win & which position did you get after the Audi team ,of course....
occasionally you get a car that is incomparable & for this window of time in history,these Audi were top racecar during turn of the millennium 2000s.
The quality of your videos are so good i only just realised your a small channel. Amazing videos man, keep up the good work
Thank you so much for the kind words! And thanks for watching :)
The R8R is the reason I'm still an Audi fan to this day. I remember when the TDI R10 came out, I thought "they did what?" Looking forward to the follow up vid on the TDI Hybrid, origin of the E-tron badge.
Thanks for watching, and for the suggestion!
Loved the story. Please keep making videos!
We will! In the meantime, check out our other videos!
This video is INSANELY good, congratulations on being extremely talented in this world, I hope you get the appreciation and views you deserve this is amazing
Thank you 🙏
I love your style of vids.
Keep up the good work!
Thank you for the compliments and for watching :)
Bro continue this great series of videos
Stay tuned, many more are coming! Thanks for watching :)
hope to see those too 😁
the r10 diesel engine had twice as much torque as any petrol engine in its class and 5 times as much the f1 v10 of the time
The Bentley that won in 2003 was essentially an Audi R8R to commemorate Bentley's 100th anniversary. Bentley is also an Audi subsidiary...
Bro 😮 I was literally just tapping next, next, next through random automotive videos on my phone cause nothing was grabbing my attention, but when this video started playing I don't know why, but you grabbed my attention. I wasn't even a quarter of the way through the video and I thought to myself, yup, this channel is getting a sub! Once it ended, I did exactly that, but when doing that, I was genuinely surprised. I was surprised at how few subs you have!
Now I say that because you're narrating, editing, tone, information/substance etc. and just overall good quality content had me automatically assuming this channel was another big channel that I just hadn't heard of yet.
Long story short, respect. You undoubtedly have exactly what you need for this recipe, and boy can you cook! 🙌🏻 I honestly feel that simplicity is key. However, I can fully understand how hard it would be keeping a video informative, engaging yet simple at the same time, nevertheless, I feel you've nailed it.
But then again, what do I actually know about this stuff anyways 😜 lol my point is, don't stop, you're good at this, and I hope that, even in some small way, this comment indicates exactly that 😊
Glad to hear that you enjoyed the video, very kind words! New video coming this week 🔥
Your story telling with your audio quality make your videos really enjoyable, keep it up!
The first road race I went to was the 2006 Petit Le Mans. I was young, and didn't know much about cars or IMSA. Most cars sounded like angry bees, the Corvettes had roaring and throaty-sounding engines, Mercedes AMG GT cars had a smoother-sounding roar, and these Audi's sounded like a pleasant and quiet sigh / hum. They fascinated me, so I rooted for them. For the first few laps, I thought they might've been electric. I remember the announcers and fans held skepticism for the new turbo-diesel engine. I didn't know enough about engines to know what that meant, but I continued to cheer them on and was very happy when they won. I was also rooting for the Corvettes in GT-1, and they did okay, but they did not win their class. I also rooted for what I called the "DHL" cars for LMP2, which now I know were the Porsche RS Spyders from Penske. They won LMP2. Just going off of the sounds and sights of the cars, I was able to pick the winner for LMP1 and LMP2. :D I remember the Nissan Delta Wing was also being introduced, and I was disappointed that they didn't race it after hyping it up at their display.
Bro , ur gonna go big , 10/10 video
Fingers crossed! Thanks for watching :)
Subbed.
The vintage almost kind of feel on these videos are awesome. Music and background track is good, definitely dont go too loud with it tho! I love these videos youve got. I bet youll reach 100k subs some day
Thank you, and hopefully!
Damn... Only 281 subs?! Make that 282... Keep up the good videos bro!
Will do! Thank you for watching :)
This is truly a gem of a video if you are into cars engineering or anything that makes noise, great stuff
Thank you for the compliment, and for watching!
Ill say it now, proud to have been a follower for a while can’t wait for this channel to have 100k+ subscribers
Really appreciate it, we’ll get there some day 🚗
I'm impress by the quality of this video. Great story buddy. Keep it up!
given Audi's history in motorsports I'm excited to see what will they achieve in F1
Very good point 👌🏽
your channels deserves more recognition! Keep up the great work!
This channel is criminally underrated. You'll be big soon
Fingers crossed! Thanks for watching :)
I love how You show videos from 2006 like they would be from the 80'. As for the audi's TDI engine, it was so great that they are using it till today... oh, wait! They aren't.
Subbed, keep this up and your gonna hit 100k subs in no time! glad to be apart of the first 1k
Thank you for subscribing and for watching!
I grew up with TDIs, learned to drive in a 79 Rabbit TDI, drove to uni in a 04 Passat TDI, bought a Golf wagon TDI later and even got it bought back from VW after the diesel scandal. Too bad really, but have to wonder where TDI technology would be today without that scandal. 😢
Nice 1.9tdi on steroids 😂😂😂
You gained a sub with this one. You are criminally underrated
Thank you!
Aaaaah, Deutsche gründlichkeit at work. No one can't deny this.. Took an abo without doubt, great video.
So the gearbox is not german then😂
Quality video man. I could’ve sworn you had way more subs
Thank you! That’s nice to hear
There is only two places on earth to prove the pinnacle of automotive performance,
LeMan & Nurburing.
Speed, formerly speedvision, back when Rally racing was televised. Those were the days.
Something you missed in your excellent overview were the overall advances in diesel combustion process, with the car fitted with and EGR and DPF filters that worked so incredibly well the only clean spot on the car was around the exhuast pipes, whilst the rest of the car was covered in race spackle.
When forced to re-size and restrictor plate the engines, they did so whilst improving there fuel economy for the same power and just going faster the next year. The borg warner turbo controls set what would become the standard for VGT Turbos in the modern world, capable of producing real boost 5+ psi at idle.
Improvements in injection systems and high pressure rails, they jacked up the pressure to the limmits (something modern diesels now do), the shape of the pison bowls.
I could go on for a month i really could, they started with a literal dirty stinky laggy diesel, and turned it onto a weapon a propper weapon.
Signed. A propper diesel nutter
I was lucky enough to see a pair of these cars race. They are hauling around the corner right in front of you, and you can just hear a little drivetrain whine. Meanwhile the other gasoline cars are 3/4 km away coming towards you and thats all you can hear.
I love that audi had a petrol and diesel car at the same time/race and made a bet intern which car will win.
They didn‘t even think about ANY other would win. 😂
I remember reading a report about he first TDI win and the journalist said it was almost comical that this car was beating the pack with almost double the range in between pitstops, while sounding like a Jetsons spaceship while doing so. 😂
Hi, these are things that can only happen when people think outside the tracks, not to mention that the whole Audi chain of command also had to take chances, very well done indeed.
It is however a pity that we see the exact opposite in the industry, where big companies are paying billions to buy little disruptive startups to In Fine close them because their product(s) were threatening their market…
Excellent video that covers everything from end to end, which is important for people who are not specialists of car races. :)
I enjoy every second of this video. Very great content and narration!
1.5k subs with quality like this is wild, love it bro. respectfully your voice isn't an ai right??😭😭😭
It’s not ai 🙂 thanks for the compliments, and for watching!
This is definitely one of the best videos I ever saw maybe the best. Love it keep making these times of videos cuz they are amazing.👏🏻
These are very high praises! Thank you for watching :)
The Speed channel was the pinnacle of racing
I went to this race. I’d say at the time no one thought pescarolo had a chance, there was no huge shock that Audi kicked ass as their cars had been raced in the LeMans series earlier that year.
The big question was if the injectors would fail (and issue the car had been having) and the gearbox which got hammered by the torque as other posters have mentioned.
It sounded so strange, other cars you could hear coming almost a mile away. The R10 you heard a whistle from the turbos and the squeal of wheels but the engine itself was really quiet.
I can’t wait to see how Audi manage to tackle Formula 1?! Just like Porsche, Audi loves a new challenge and loves dominating in whatever series they compete.
I remember that first race with the diesel engines it was cool, i said right at the beginning of the race that if they were reliable the fuel efficiency alone would save a lot of time in pits
This chanel needs more followers...The fact this video has more likes then you do followers is mind boggling to me man! Keep grinding 🤘
We’ll take that as a compliment! Thank you for watching
@@MotorLegends-stories my bad, I edited it for better context. Great production 🤘
Team Audi is the best race team ever .. From the s1 Quattro to Pykes peak..special memories
Amazing content, for a less than 10k subs channel. Great job =)
Thanks for watching 🙏
निरंतर दबाव प्रक्रिया आधारित अंतर दहन यंत्र ने बहुत प्रभावित किया, किंतु VW के बाद का डीज़लगेट कांड ने प्रगती पर विराम लगा दिया और डीज़ल फिर से बदनाम होगये ; वैसे गहन शोध, स्पष्ट अवलोकन, प्रज्ञावान विश्लेषण और बहुत सुंदर प्रस्तुति 👏👏👌👌👌।
Taurus Sports Racing had been at le man with a Diesel for a few years prior to the R10.
The Taurus was using a diesel based on the unit in a VW road car, but essentially VAG had a diesel car at le man in 2004
One year it was said that Audi’s catering budget for the team and invited journalists exceeded the race budget for the next placed team.
haha, didn't know that, but also sounds about right...
Yep, diesel was all the rage in Europe during that era as the auto builders had convinced the market that diesels were clean and healthy for everyone...and then the facts materialized. Still its nice that Audi beat a different path just to show it could be done.
and now lots of engine builders kept making build of turbo diesel that make their own clouds in just a matter of minute
Its the same people that convinced that vaccines are good for your health and electric cars are going to save the envirnoment. The tarded rule completely today.
im sure that if this experiment failed, audi would keep trying remembering what was the root and still winning after some years
The VW group at the time used the 1.9tdi in the Seat Ibiza in the VTCC.🙂
Love how you speak of common rail injectors like something groundbreaking. My volvo v70 from the same year has it.. lol
Remenber those year of ALMS and seeing those Audi just shoot out the corners. People were in disbelief as those cars just pulled away from the pack.
Great video bro, subbed
How do you do your research? And where do you find the right clips? I'd love to know!
Top quality content mate. Subbed.
Yeeesss!!! Amazing VAG engineering, this engine and Diesel Gate!
Good video, I'ma subscribe
Thank you! 🙏
I had 2 vw tdi powered cars. An 02 jetta automatic and an 03 golf 5 speed. Now direct injection and smaller turbo charged engines are mainstream with gasoline. I have a 2021 1500 silverado with 2.7 turbo 4 cylinder and a 2017 vw jetta 1.4 tsi turbo charged direct injection engine. Tourque is in by 1500 rpms and there is plenty of power for highways. Jetta will get 52 mpg when cruising. My truck about 24 mpg on 93 octane.
NO WAY YOUVE GOT LESS THAN 100K SUBS
Thanks for watching, maybe one day 💯
@@MotorLegends-stories dude youve got some seriously high quality stuff you'll get there in no time
I had already watched driver61's video on this story and I wished he'd have given some more information, so thank you for the good video
If I recall correctly, 90% of the car could be disassembled with only a couple of wrenches. At least by the time they got to the R18s it was down to 2. Every mechanic with a full tool set for the car in their pocket. Genius.
I watched them change an entire turbo assembly in a few minutes on the R18. It was still glowing red hot when they pulled it out. That poor mechanic was probably wearing every glove in the shop but he ripped it out and carried it out (and I assume handed it off to the bomb squad lol).
Top quality video ❤❤❤
Sitting on spectator hill at Road Atlanta for start of Petit in 2008 when Allan McNish crash the R10 in the formation lap. We sat there looking at each other saying, "There's no way that just happened, right?"
imagine if they used a 1.9 TDI :O the other cars would not stand a chance
great video. Thank you
Good Video
What's funny is about the same time as Audi taking a TDI to LeMans I was swapping a TDI into a corrado to replace a VR6. What would be ideal would be diesel plug in hybrids but sadly diesel....
You mentioned the Bosch fuel injection system operating at 23,000 psi...Cummins equipped Dodge Ram pickups from that era (I own one) have high pressure fuel injection systems that operate at 26,000 psi...newer ones are operating at 28k+.
I drive a 2015 jetta tdi and im proud of it🔥 stage 2 with 220 hp but 490nm ( 380 torque)
Physics and math, history and geo storm ❤
To be honest, to me it made sense from the beginning to use a Diesel car in an endurance race with the layout LeMans has. (back then, not just in hindsight)
It's about how far you can go in 24 hours and the fewer times you need to stop for fuel, the more you increase your average speed.
Stopping for fuel decreases the average way more than being a little bit slower in topseed or accelleration.
And by the time Audi did that, Mercedes even sold a Diesel AMG car. So much for the european knowing that a Diesel can be fast.
As for common rail: Common RAil Diesels were also not invented by Audi. The VW conglomerate (Which included Audi) did what they called "Pumpe-Düse" ="Pump-injectornozzle" Meaning they didn't use Common rail at first but had a pump for each direct injecting injector.
Other (european) manufacturers instead chose common rail technology to match VW's power output and fuel efficiency. (the c in Mercedes cdi stands for common rail, and they started selling those in 2000 or 2001. (just to name one user of common rail Diesel technology)
Thing is, the VW solution became a dead end, and so they switched to common rail too.
Why do I feel like James Spader is narrating this video?
There's definitely some resemblance now that you mention it haha! Thanks for watching :)
1.9 TDI Power. We know now where it comes from 😂😅❤
I hope Audi will be just as successful in Formula One in the distant future.
And then with all this proven performance they put it in one car.... the Audi Q7 lmao. i would kill for that Q7 here in the states tho.
And Audi road cars are like..... you know.
Like what? The RS6 performance?
Man, if this was all part of a plan to sell diesel based vehicles to consumer, it back fire spectacularly.
If I were an executive at Audi I would have produced an Audi R8 with a high performance turbodiesel powerplant. They missed.
They made a concept car with the V12, but it never made it to production. AFAIK, they only made the Q7 V12 TDI...
Lets thank the UA-cam algorithm once again for showing this invredible Video. How is this channel sub 5k subs?
(Btw I'd love a similar styled vid for the porsche 919)
Thank you, the 919 is on the list!
@@MotorLegends-stories 🤩
Im not surpirsed later on the real LeMans is gonna be filled with a bunch of former GT 7 sweats
Hey man! How do i contact you.