Tips for Installing Subflooring: Nails vs. Screws, Rhythm, and Glue project 120 part 7
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- Опубліковано 19 гру 2024
- In this video, we share our best practices for installing subflooring that will give you a high-quality, sturdy, and durable base for your flooring. We cover everything from the type of fastener to use (nails or screws), to the rhythm of the installation process, to the glue we recommend. We also share some tips and tricks to make the installation process easier and more efficient.
Installing subfloor properly doesn't have to take a lot of time. Just pay attention to leaving 1/8" gap all the way around. Its even printed on the @advantech panels in case you forget.
Consistency is the key in my view. We are using Advantech Subfloor Adhesive and Paslode TetraGrip nails to speed up the installation without sacrificing any quality. Steady rhythm is the key.
Please remember that I'm not showing the best way to do anything, but just the method that works well for us. Thanks for watching!
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your work ethic is really something to be admired, and all the things you say about teaching n bonding and self esteem etc its all true no matter what field we work in. its admirable.
Like the training comments in the video for young or new people in the industry. Super important to pass on skills and tips! Thanks!
Not only are you a good tradesman but I enjoy your life lessons 😊🏴🏴
Need more of you in the trades, more teaching and less belittling!
When it rains you pour!!! Also an opinion of the milwaukee track saw. I have a full milwaukee kit but own the festool track saw. It is so much more solid and it has the 90° square for the rail. Milwaukee breaks so easily so i wouldnt trust it for the years to come. Red for strong drivers drills and routers. White and green for precision. Love your work boys all the way from Australia
Ok yesterday I had to breakdown and buy a work van ( used). So I was depressed! This morning hey let’s see if I can find Awesome Framers video and one other cement channel I will not mention!
You are great gets me laughing ! The dancing in college we had a name for the middle age White guys invading our space trolling! And today you get the “ SUB FLOOR DANCE OFF” award!
What is the prize? Work! Now let’s get busy!
Thanks Tim and of course get tips! I do finish however you would not believe the questions I get ! So watching you gives me some reference whereas I can point & say ? You need those kind of carpenters!
Totally agree on the take care of your body comment. (Also not a young buck anymore...) So working smarter and avoiding injury just makes sense. That little bit of extra time and thought into intention is so much more worth it than being out a day or two because of soreness and injury.
I’m building my own place, EVERYTHING I do is the first time. 1-1/8” Advantech is awesome, heavy and expensive.
Agreed on the spacing, I have some large gaps towards the ends of my rows - oops. Where was this video a year ago! Lol.
I challenge ANYONE to assemble 1-1/8” Adv subfloor without a sledge and beater board. After 60 sheets I probably went through 10 beater boards. A handle? GENIUS!!! Again, too late with the video.
Screws vs nails? I don’t doubt those nails are a mother to pull out. What I do doubt is the mechanics of a nail gun pulling the sheets tight to the joists like screws absolutely do. I believe this is even more true with thicker stiffer sheathing that requires more force to get it pulled to the joists.
Once the adhesive is set the fasteners don’t matter (as far as squeaks are concerned), and I’ll argue for the screws every time.
I really enjoy your video format, keep up the great work!!!
Excelente trabajo saludos 👌👍
Take some think gauge electrical wire and wrap it around the end of the glue nozzle a few times so it doesn’t want to move, bend it out away from the nozzle half the width of the top runner of the joists and then turn it back down so it sticks down a little more then the end of the nozzle. You can now use this little leg to run against the edge of the joists and holds the nozzle perfectly in the middle, no slipping off and making a mess on the 1st floor and much less effort “aiming” it.
4:17 Special nails instead of screws because they’re faster. Like this so everyone can see.
I snap a line 48” from the edge of the floor for the first coarse, then 47” thereafter from the T&G seam and not glue past the line. Overall, nice work guys!
I have always nailed back six or 8 inches from the end so the Kong can slip into the groove easily on the next sheet, but I have never used that type of subfloor before
This is question another channel said:
Only galvanized nails in pressure treaded .
Dropping the floor I joist off sill plate with hangers into crawl then advantech sub then bottom plate.
Do i need galvanized nails.
I dont recall you ever specifying galvanized for thd sill, sub floor, bottom plate attachment??
What say you!
You only need galvanized nails if you're shooting into certain treated wood. We don't need them because our plates are Borate treated and in a vented crawl space there's no need for galvanized nails unless the treated wood calls for it.
Where do you buy those joist from?
Those are @roseburg and we buy them from through the lumberyard.
Thanks GUYS!!!
what specific screw from Simpson and stand up driver if I want to use screws instead of 10d nails as spec'd?
No glue on the wall or outside joist?
sometimes yes, sometimes not. Its not needed because of the weight of the wall. Usually we don't glue it because we'll straighten it last.
I can't believe you let your helpers drop the sheeting down like that. All they have to do is hook their hammer over the end of the sheet and let it down softly so the glue doesn't get smashed all over the place and defeat the whole purpose. I learned many years ago to lay down the sheets you are going to install upside down with the tongue facing forward on top of the sheets already in place so you can run a bead of glue on the tongue, it helps the sheeting slide into the grove and makes a much stronger and squeak free floor.
I dunno. I'll take my Quikdrive over the nailgun everyday. I'm ok with a small decrease in speed if it means saving my back
Go Noah!
REALLY-nice photography!! huh....never used those osb-joists? Guess they work good?!! Ohhh...its a dang gyro-thingy!!! haaaa. cool vid! I do try to run a bead of glue on the groove, when I wanted to do a great job. Matter of principle :-) heyy...why don't one of you invent a gizmo to drop a panel onto a glued joist array?! Its always the most-awkward maneuver. NEEDs a new-fangled gizmo, for sure!
I don't see how the gapping is done.
I dunno I kinda like the term "screwing".
Yeah, its easy when you can get a machine close to the house. Also when the delivery guy could and should drop loads closer to make life easier never happens. From a Hotshot sawyer/ logger to framer hard work is a must complaining never gets work done just saying. I aint better than no one just another guy on the crew as a journeyman carpenter.
#teamnoah
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Does leaving gaps throw off ur layout in a long run
nope
great question, nope. The sheets are smaller than 4x8 for exactly that reason.
@@AwesomeFramers as a trim guy i wouldnt mind trimmin after u guys. Framers are usually my enemy lol🤪