"2003, 2004...I thought those are Chellsie Memmel's years. Here it is 2011 and she's right back here in the mix." -John Well here we are in 2020 and IT'S A COMEBACK BABY!
Looking back you can't help but wonder if they were competing poorly because of what they were going through. So sad every single one of them deserved such better treatment.
these are incredible gymnasts who faced years of emotional, physical, and sexual abuse. they weren't being properly treated for injuries. their bodies were hanging on a thread. keep this in mind before criticizing their performance.
I agree tremendously! I don’t like at all that they are in aw at someone who takes a step because they have extra power but when someone else does it it’s like ohhhhh that is a huge deduction it’s going to cost her the entire competition.🙄🙄😠cause I thing gymnastics is sometimes based on favoritism
Agree now you see gymnast smile their not so hard on themselves back than some of the coaches were jerks instead of lifting the gymnast spirits made them feel worse I’m sure it played a huge role in the performance they looked miserable it’s sad they had to go through that and that so many adults allowed it I hated them always talking about the karolies they caused a lot of the girls to have eating disorders and put stress upon them than that gave that sicko who’s now rotting in prison a way to go after these young ladies . So glad he’s rotting behind bars I can’t believe he did that science the 1990’s I rem Shannon miller hurting her ankle nasser went to her she got up right away she knew he wasn’t right and the karolies were abusive also it’s why Kim zameskial began coaching the way she got coached that type of coaching causes mistakes it doesn’t help it puts more pressure . I’m so glad how diff it is now you can see the girls are happy now
Shawn Johnson became such a gorgeous gymnast...not only in looks but technique as well. Such a shame she was injured. I wanted to see her clean up the medals at the Olympics again.
@@ally4eva93 I personally believe she retired since she saw the writing on the wall, and that she wasn't making the team (despite her public claims she was pretty much guaranteed a spot). I thought she should have been on the 2011 world team after all the injuries took people off. I would have put her on the team over Vega atleast. Unless she had improved massively from 2011, which I hugely doubt since she had been injured most of 2012, she definitely fit nowhere on the 2012 team, and she wasn't even put on 2011 when I thought she should have been. Had she competed at Trials I feel she winds up in Alicia's spot, not even 1 of the 3 alternates. The only one of the 2008 squad who could have made 2012 was Nastia if she hit bars, mostly due to Marta's insane bias to her, but also since the teams biggest need was on bars. Ross was more deserving to be taken for bars/beam, especialy since she was way more consistent than old Nastia by then, but Nastia had a higher D score on both events, especialy bars, so that would be all the excuse Marta needed if she just hit 1 or 2 bar routines to go with some of hit beam routines.
@@tumicduguar2583 when did shawn claim she was a lock for the 2012 team? I'm genuinely curious where and in what context she said that, bc if she did say it, it must have been the adderall talking bc that certainly wasn't true lol she was close to making the 2011 worlds team, but that's about it.
@@tumicduguar2583 Nastia couldn't have made the 2012 team either. She really could have helped on bars, but she wasn't able to build up the endurance to handle the same bar routine she had from 2008. It was too tiring on her. She could have changed it up a bit to something she could handle a bit better at that time, but it would have been an even bigger bars final than 2008 with kexin, tweedle, and mustafina
Most only have 2 years, by the time they hit mid to.late teens their bodies are breaking due to injuries, overtraining, malnutrition, eating disorders and then just mentally being exhausted . The body isn't meant to go through this type of training with bad nutrition habits.
This has got to be my favorite US Championships purely because of how stacked the US team was, despite all the falls. So many legends in the building. Gabby, Jordyn, Aly, McKayla, Shawn, Chellsie, Alicia, Rebecca, and more all in one competition. We were just absolutely stacked with legends in the sport in this competition
i didn't think gabby had a chance of going to or winning the gold medal at the olympics in 2012 when i first watched this. but once i watched her at the 2012 nationals, i knew she was gonna make it. it's amazing how much she improved in almost a year.
She said competing at Worlds and doing so well in prelims, where she came something like 6th, but 3rd highest American, only not competing in AA finals due to the 2 per country rule. That is what gave her the confidence that she could do it and reach the top in 2012.
@@beacanlas8704 that's literally NOT true, not even almost. Bross kept doing the Patterson because she actually could do the dismount VERY well. Oddly it was not translated often into competition
@@sashaandrov231 plus i think she had said she needed it to stay competitive. had rebecca not gotten injured, i think she could have hoped for alternate in 2012 at best, she just fell behind others difficulty and consistency wise once olympic time would have rolled around. she had a lot less competition 2009/2010
The Gym Editor I agree! Her pak is so nice and flighty, and if she added some more difficult skills to her forward section before the piked jaeger, and connected that full pirouette to her dismount, she'd have a pretty difficult routine. The only thing is that Maloney. . . She would need to work on that a lot.
It was wonderful to get to watch this competition. A lot of the girls were strangers to me. But it was great to see them perform. I know this was ten years ago and most of you are not in the sport any more. But your accomplishments live on. You’ve gone on to careers and families of your own. You tube is a great way to remember all of you. Your an inspiration because mistakes happened left and right but you all kept trying. A champion is not always the one that wins the titles or the medals. But the ones who capture our hearts are the underdogs who fight to overcome all obstacles. Great sportsmanship and believing in yourselves no matter who is a top the leaderboard. Thank you for your years of hard work and sacrifice. It’s been a privilege to see all of you at these moments in your lives.
I think this championship was the breaker for Gabby Douglas...where she said she decided to give up(in her movie). It took the intervention of those around her to help her get her confidence back, and she never looked back since. Some people criticize her for whatever reason they think they may have...you may call her 'inconsistent' or what not. A gymnast who wasn't doing so well before and nearly called it quits, but found a way to pick herself up, psyche herself up enough, and change her whole gymnastics deserves respect. Where were your 'consistent' favourites on the day they were expected to bring it? Love her or hate her, her name has gone into history, her medals are hers...what is your own achievement???
I know I am so many years too late with this comment, but I find it so inappropriate that Nastia was on the selection committee when she hadn't yet retired as a gymnast. She was still lightly training at that point and had said that she was still considering a comeback. Putting her on the selection committee was a huge conflict of interest. Oh well, the right team went to Worlds and got the gold so I guess all's well that ends well.
@@mileyfan123able LOL she left Shawn off the team even after all the injuries, when it would have been easily justifiable to put her on. I would have had her on the team over Vega.
@@tumicduguar2583 Shawn would not have benefited even if their was a bias. Nastia and shawn were not friends at the time. They very publicly fell out after the 2008 Olympics and did not become friends again until Shawn got married years later.
Tim D says of Rebecca Bross, “she just looks tired to me, she looks overworked”. That’s exactly what she was because that’s what Velari Liukin did to her. Trying to make her an elite AA gymnast or push her to learn skills she clearly wasn’t able to do just to make the olympics in 2012. That’s why she failed. Every time I look at her all i see is unhappy. She like Riley McCusker looked the same. Good thing Riley had the chance to switch coaches and is now happier. We’ll see at the 21 trials if that’s made a difference. I believe it will.
He wasn't teaching her new skills, he was just trying to get her old skills back. Not saying he went about it the right way, but he wasn't adding anything significant in any Rebecca routine here.
It's socially nice how they support each other with a hug. Fascinating that this is the first Visa's that Jordyn has competed in. I like the soundtrack that Alicia went with for her floor. Mckayla is indeed a beauty. Alexandra seems to have done perfect on her floor. I agree too that Jordyn floor was nicely done. I feel bad for Rebecca having three major errors on beam that in which she didn't get a good enough score. Alexandra did a perfect vault.
That's what I'll never understand. Any physical therapist or orthopedic surgeon had to know back then that her internal hip rotation and inward knees could not allow her to land skills safely. In Europe where they scout for talent in kindergarten and elementary schools, they'd have taken one look at her and refused her for gymnastics. But instead, her parents were willing to pay the fees and the coaches were more than able to cash in, her pain be damned. What I see in this meet (I'm a former gymnast and retired kinesiologist) is that at that age the body grows and shifts all the time, her natural physiology was already rebelling against the rigors of the alignment requirements for gymnastics. The fact that she eventually blew out her kneecap does not surprise me in the least. The fact that she was encouraged to continue afterwards enrages me more than I can tell. I feel so bad for her.
I love watching these old meets it brings back so many memories of when I was in the gym, I miss it so much!!! Hey maybe I can comeback like Chelsea Memmel did..🤔🤔😂😂🤔🤔😳😳
iamkarenh she still won lol - meanwhile the so called better gymnasts aka the Russians are still crying over spilt milk. Lol and now simone biles is dominating. Lol #THEBLACKTAKEOVER LOOOOOL - this is just the beginning. There will be plenty of time for the haters to moan. Since 2012 we been on top baby. SO KEEP CRYING WHILE WE KEEP WINNING
Looking back on this, it makes you wonder if maybe some of the athletes' heads weren't in the game and they made so many mistakes because they had just been abused by Nassar and they couldn't shake it enough to perform well.
Poor Gabby. She looked so defeated, you could see it in her face. So proud that she was able to go out to the Olympics a year later and take the gold tho!
I know this is years late but the music playing while Chellsie is preparing for her vault around 1:18:00 is from the Avatar score! It took me a sec to realize what it was from but I think it's specifically the piece called "Becoming one of the people". Such a stunning piece of music!
It a shame Alicia got injured. Her floor routine was her best choreographed ever. And her beam was improved and sturdier than ever. She could have made the Olympics in 2012 and medaled on vault, beam, possibly floor.
It's good that Chellise made a come back to competing in gymnastics, for this Visa Championships. Along with two of her 2008 Olympic gymnastic teammates, Shawn and Alicia. Plus non Olympic teammates: Jordyn, Rebecca, Mckayla Alexandra. They're all my favorite. In addition, I loved how they did on their routines (for on both day 1 and day 2). Although if they had lost a points due to an errors, an injury on their routine, or didn't do four routines, at this Visa Championships.
I wz just thinking...what if just once...at the most intense moment...trying to focus on the beam...when the whole place goes quiet...you hear that scream..."COME ON (insert name) YOU GOT IT!! COME ON!" 👏🏻 immediately (insert name) loses it for just 3seconds & SNAPS...whips her head around & screams back..."SHUT UP! I'M TRYING TO FOCUS!!" And proceeds to do a flawless routine👏🏻 I pictured it in my mind's eye & its HILAAARIOUS🤣🤣
A girl at my gym tore her ACL just like Shawn Johnson, she was out for the whole season. Finally she got cleared, but 2 months (or so) later, she tore her ACL again😬
@@elishajean2670 Wieber didn't have a bad experience with Geddert. Her parents were actively involved in making sure she was treated appropriately and not overworked, and she was his star, so she was treated well. I think Wieber has very conflicted feelings about him, and that's perfectly okay.
So terrible that Shawn Johnson got injured Skiing. She could have made history in her 2nd and possibly 3rd Olympics. She was only 19 in 2012 & 23 in 2016. 😀 Little did these commentators know that Chellsie Memmel would make a 3rd comeback at age 32 years old in 2020-21. She performed in the Gold Over America Tour and she was beautiful. 🌹 I remember watching this live and was actually shocked at all the falls. Alicia, Shawn, Mykayla, Jordan Wieber, Gabby, Bross all had major deductions.
yeah i noticed that too, but she wasnt a big gymnast then so they had all there focus on shawns comback and the uprising gymnast like raisman and weiber.
I was really rooting for Alicia in her comeback, but her not doing bars (and historically being weak on bars) just killed her. There were way too many strong all around gymnasts in this quad and if there were gonna be any non-all-around specialists for USA at the Olympics the year following this they needed to be a strong bar worker. And even that didn't happen, they took 5 all-around gymnasts. And the final nail in the coffin was when Alicia got injured later this year and had to go down to just vault and beam and took out floor. Alicia in 2012 was no longer a vaulting specialist because the USA had advanced in vaulting just just much. Her main vault was valued at a 6.3 and in 2004 and 2008 that helped the USA, in 2012 it would have actually HURT the USA as the 5 female gymnasts they took were ALL capable of the 6.5 valued amanar vault. Though Kyla started doing just the double twist starting at the 2012 national championships and made the team mostly through her bars and beam BUT she was capable of the 2.5 amanar. I mean, it was truly amazing when you think about it how strong USA was on vault in this quad. So for Alicia, actually bringing down the difficulty level for his "best event", frankly, it doomed her chances for 2012. I unfortunatly felt the same for Shawn Johnson too. The only 1 of the 3 veterans making the comeback (well 4 if you count Nastia, who I think had a shot if she began her comeback in 2011 not 2012) here with a chance at the 2012 team would have been Chelsea Memmel with her strong bars and beam and being an all around gymnast (though weak at vault, but again since USA was so strong on vault she could have been in contention cause they didn't need a strong vaulter in their bar specialist for 2012). Leading up to 2012 and 2016, any junior US gymnast that dreamed of the Olympics should have put 50% of their training focus on bars. A strong bar worker just raises your chances so much of being on the US Womens Olympic Gymnastics Team! AND even though McKayla Maroney was a solid all around gymnasts, she was also the best vaulter the US had, better than Alicia. That further doomed Alicia. Absolutly no room on a 5 person team for TWO people with vault as their best event, especially if one of them isn't even an all-around gymnast.
Poor Sabrina I know how she feels. I was in that same situation when i was a swimmer when I made a mistake. I know exactly where she's coming from. I think coaches shouldn't be so hard on their athletes when they know they make a mistake it just makes them worse
Every time the commentators were commenting on Gabbie’s youth and inconsistency and genuinely being doubtful, I just kept thinking that is your soon to be Olympic AA gold medal winner! It seemed so unlikely at this point. What an Olympics performance she put in!
ajlove2013 myckayla for sure!!! alicia's first vault is huge but mykayla has a higher start value and she's excellent at it too. alicia's second vault though is too low compared to maroneys
I really felt McKayla Maroney's routines were handled very poorly! She was a great tumbler but they gave her that third pass which was a built in error. She also didn't need that first low-to-high ball skill which is a tough skill, that she didn't need, and caused her a lot of trouble as well! She fell on the skill at the trials in 2012. She also had issues with that 3rd pass on her floor routine at the trials too! These issues killed her when it came to her all around performances at the nationals and trials!
I know that the vault was what hurt because. But tbh valeri shouldn't have made her do such a difficult beam dismount. It's almost never been a stick or even close to a good landing for her. Why he didn't change it to double pike or double full i don't know why. The dismount is scary. Blind landing. Etc. But why valeri didn't water it down????? I know he wants to build champions, but would it be worth having a star class athlete get injured?
"2003, 2004...I thought those are Chellsie Memmel's years. Here it is 2011 and she's right back here in the mix." -John
Well here we are in 2020 and IT'S A COMEBACK BABY!
I made the same comment earlier!!!!! I've loved watching her comeback during Quarantine.
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Looking back you can't help but wonder if they were competing poorly because of what they were going through. So sad every single one of them deserved such better treatment.
Yes,they were competing poorly because they were getting abused!
these are incredible gymnasts who faced years of emotional, physical, and sexual abuse. they weren't being properly treated for injuries. their bodies were hanging on a thread. keep this in mind before criticizing their performance.
I agree tremendously! I don’t like at all that they are in aw at someone who takes a step because they have extra power but when someone else does it it’s like ohhhhh that is a huge deduction it’s going to cost her the entire competition.🙄🙄😠cause I thing gymnastics is sometimes based on favoritism
Agree now you see gymnast smile their not so hard on themselves back than some of the coaches were jerks instead of lifting the gymnast spirits made them feel worse I’m sure it played a huge role in the performance they looked miserable it’s sad they had to go through that and that so many adults allowed it I hated them always talking about the karolies they caused a lot of the girls to have eating disorders and put stress upon them than that gave that sicko who’s now rotting in prison a way to go after these young ladies . So glad he’s rotting behind bars I can’t believe he did that science the 1990’s I rem Shannon miller hurting her ankle nasser went to her she got up right away she knew he wasn’t right and the karolies were abusive also it’s why Kim zameskial began coaching the way she got coached that type of coaching causes mistakes it doesn’t help it puts more pressure . I’m so glad how diff it is now you can see the girls are happy now
Just so sad how Rebecca Bross's career ended up, but she was a champion.
Shawn Johnson became such a gorgeous gymnast...not only in looks but technique as well. Such a shame she was injured. I wanted to see her clean up the medals at the Olympics again.
iamkarenh ua-cam.com/video/lwv_2dnTG4g/v-deo.html
Watch that. Shawn explains why she retired and it wasn't because of her injury
@@ally4eva93 I personally believe she retired since she saw the writing on the wall, and that she wasn't making the team (despite her public claims she was pretty much guaranteed a spot). I thought she should have been on the 2011 world team after all the injuries took people off. I would have put her on the team over Vega atleast. Unless she had improved massively from 2011, which I hugely doubt since she had been injured most of 2012, she definitely fit nowhere on the 2012 team, and she wasn't even put on 2011 when I thought she should have been. Had she competed at Trials I feel she winds up in Alicia's spot, not even 1 of the 3 alternates.
The only one of the 2008 squad who could have made 2012 was Nastia if she hit bars, mostly due to Marta's insane bias to her, but also since the teams biggest need was on bars. Ross was more deserving to be taken for bars/beam, especialy since she was way more consistent than old Nastia by then, but Nastia had a higher D score on both events, especialy bars, so that would be all the excuse Marta needed if she just hit 1 or 2 bar routines to go with some of hit beam routines.
She blew out her knee Skiing!! She’s making beautiful babies now 👍
@@tumicduguar2583 when did shawn claim she was a lock for the 2012 team? I'm genuinely curious where and in what context she said that, bc if she did say it, it must have been the adderall talking bc that certainly wasn't true lol she was close to making the 2011 worlds team, but that's about it.
@@tumicduguar2583 Nastia couldn't have made the 2012 team either. She really could have helped on bars, but she wasn't able to build up the endurance to handle the same bar routine she had from 2008. It was too tiring on her. She could have changed it up a bit to something she could handle a bit better at that time, but it would have been an even bigger bars final than 2008 with kexin, tweedle, and mustafina
When McKayla over-rotates an E skill as a dismount.
Shawn Johnson only really had 2 years of a senior gymnastics career
1234 5678 same with jordyn :(
Most only have 2 years, by the time they hit mid to.late teens their bodies are breaking due to injuries, overtraining, malnutrition, eating disorders and then just mentally being exhausted . The body isn't meant to go through this type of training with bad nutrition habits.
I believe she blew out her knee Skiing !!!
wow!! Gabbie fell 3 times off the beam.....I'm so proud she still went on to become the All Around Olympic Gold Medalist😀
@Kayla Mannett The GOLD🤩🤩
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This has got to be my favorite US Championships purely because of how stacked the US team was, despite all the falls. So many legends in the building. Gabby, Jordyn, Aly, McKayla, Shawn, Chellsie, Alicia, Rebecca, and more all in one competition. We were just absolutely stacked with legends in the sport in this competition
i didn't think gabby had a chance of going to or winning the gold medal at the olympics in 2012 when i first watched this. but once i watched her at the 2012 nationals, i knew she was gonna make it. it's amazing how much she improved in almost a year.
kamilla ahlström yeah it's ridiculous i was thinking the same thing
She said competing at Worlds and doing so well in prelims, where she came something like 6th, but 3rd highest American, only not competing in AA finals due to the 2 per country rule. That is what gave her the confidence that she could do it and reach the top in 2012.
Loved hearing Alicia coaching Aly through her bar routine!☺️
Why did they keep giving R Bross that patterson dismount when she hardly ever lands it?????
bc valeri liukin said that she had a resemblance on patterson
@@beacanlas8704 that's literally NOT true, not even almost.
Bross kept doing the Patterson because she actually could do the dismount VERY well. Oddly it was not translated often into competition
Luikin destroyed that girl. He pushed her way too hard
@@sashaandrov231 plus i think she had said she needed it to stay competitive. had rebecca not gotten injured, i think she could have hoped for alternate in 2012 at best, she just fell behind others difficulty and consistency wise once olympic time would have rolled around. she had a lot less competition 2009/2010
Sasha Andersen Calm down Sasha
aww did anyone else see Alicia sitting in the corner watching when Aly did her first pass? It was cute :)
This was like the most depressing competition to watch lmao
I love Alicia Sacramone's floor music. So powerful!
i know!
Amy Weston I literally listen to it everyday no joke!
I honestly think that McKayla has potential on uneven bars
I'd say floor as well.
I think she has potential as an all around gymnast.
Kayla Mannett no actually her best event is vault she said her favourite was always floor
The Gym Editor I agree! Her pak is so nice and flighty, and if she added some more difficult skills to her forward section before the piked jaeger, and connected that full pirouette to her dismount, she'd have a pretty difficult routine. The only thing is that Maloney. . . She would need to work on that a lot.
It was wonderful to get to watch this competition. A lot of the girls were strangers to me. But it was great to see them perform. I know this was ten years ago and most of you are not in the sport any more. But your accomplishments live on. You’ve gone on to careers and families of your own. You tube is a great way to remember all of you. Your an inspiration because mistakes happened left and right but you all kept trying. A champion is not always the one that wins the titles or the medals. But the ones who capture our hearts are the underdogs who fight to overcome all obstacles. Great sportsmanship and believing in yourselves no matter who is a top the leaderboard. Thank you for your years of hard work and sacrifice. It’s been a privilege to see all of you at these moments in your lives.
I think this championship was the breaker for Gabby Douglas...where she said she decided to give up(in her movie).
It took the intervention of those around her to help her get her confidence back, and she never looked back since.
Some people criticize her for whatever reason they think they may have...you may call her 'inconsistent' or what not. A gymnast who wasn't doing so well before and nearly called it quits, but found a way to pick herself up, psyche herself up enough, and change her whole gymnastics deserves respect.
Where were your 'consistent' favourites on the day they were expected to bring it?
Love her or hate her, her name has gone into history, her medals are hers...what is your own achievement???
I'm pretty sure that was 2011 worlds May be?
I know I am so many years too late with this comment, but I find it so inappropriate that Nastia was on the selection committee when she hadn't yet retired as a gymnast. She was still lightly training at that point and had said that she was still considering a comeback. Putting her on the selection committee was a huge conflict of interest. Oh well, the right team went to Worlds and got the gold so I guess all's well that ends well.
I thought this as well! How unfair. To have her friends competing an she is selecting them . very strange
@@mileyfan123able LOL she left Shawn off the team even after all the injuries, when it would have been easily justifiable to put her on. I would have had her on the team over Vega.
@@mileyfan123able oh calm down
@@tumicduguar2583 she could just suggest, martha was the main lady not nastia or humfrey
@@tumicduguar2583 Shawn would not have benefited even if their was a bias. Nastia and shawn were not friends at the time. They very publicly fell out after the 2008 Olympics and did not become friends again until Shawn got married years later.
Mckayla Maroney is super beautiful, I really enjoyed the music and her performance early on in the footage here.
I miss Aly and Alicia competing together :((
I do too!
Now we have Aly and Simone. America gymnast duo and we love them😁❤️
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I just realised that aly was the only one who didn’t make a mistake both nighys
Tim D says of Rebecca Bross, “she just looks tired to me, she looks overworked”. That’s exactly what she was because that’s what Velari Liukin did to her. Trying to make her an elite AA gymnast or push her to learn skills she clearly wasn’t able to do just to make the olympics in 2012. That’s why she failed. Every time I look at her all i see is unhappy. She like Riley McCusker looked the same. Good thing Riley had the chance to switch coaches and is now happier. We’ll see at the 21 trials if that’s made a difference. I believe it will.
He wasn't teaching her new skills, he was just trying to get her old skills back. Not saying he went about it the right way, but he wasn't adding anything significant in any Rebecca routine here.
People mentioned he was very critical to her
I don't understand why she didn't drop that dismount on beam. Has she ever completed it? Felt really bad for her.
And now 2020 and Chelsea is back at it AGAIN!!!!! Hoping she makes 2021 Olympics or at least Worlds.
Still watching in 2018, love chelsie's beam routine and Aly's floor and vault.
2020
It's socially nice how they support each other with a hug. Fascinating that this is the first Visa's that Jordyn has competed in. I like the soundtrack that Alicia went with for her floor. Mckayla is indeed a beauty. Alexandra seems to have done perfect on her floor. I agree too that Jordyn floor was nicely done. I feel bad for Rebecca having three major errors on beam that in which she didn't get a good enough score. Alexandra did a perfect vault.
I'm obsessed with women's gymnastics. It's the most beautiful sport out there. Like... Wow!!!
Does anybody else love Alicia's floor even with the mistakes
YESSS! she has clean form, good artistry and good difficulty.
Rebecca's knees make me so nervous
That's what I'll never understand. Any physical therapist or orthopedic surgeon had to know back then that her internal hip rotation and inward knees could not allow her to land skills safely. In Europe where they scout for talent in kindergarten and elementary schools, they'd have taken one look at her and refused her for gymnastics. But instead, her parents were willing to pay the fees and the coaches were more than able to cash in, her pain be damned. What I see in this meet (I'm a former gymnast and retired kinesiologist) is that at that age the body grows and shifts all the time, her natural physiology was already rebelling against the rigors of the alignment requirements for gymnastics. The fact that she eventually blew out her kneecap does not surprise me in the least. The fact that she was encouraged to continue afterwards enrages me more than I can tell. I feel so bad for her.
I have never seen a nationals this bad, ever.
i know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kind of hard to believe they won the gold medal at the Olympics the following year. Talk about improvement!
And won World's this year in 2011.
Man I just fall in love with Makaylas floor especially the round off-1 1/2-round off -backhandspring-double tuck
I love watching these old meets it brings back so many memories of when I was in the gym, I miss it so much!!! Hey maybe I can comeback like Chelsea Memmel did..🤔🤔😂😂🤔🤔😳😳
Ha little did everyone know that gabby would be all around champion at the olympics
She got lucky though. Very inconsistent gymnast.
iamkarenh consistent enough
More like lucky.
iamkarenh she still won lol - meanwhile the so called better gymnasts aka the Russians are still crying over spilt milk. Lol and now simone biles is dominating. Lol #THEBLACKTAKEOVER LOOOOOL - this is just the beginning. There will be plenty of time for the haters to moan. Since 2012 we been on top baby. SO KEEP CRYING WHILE WE KEEP WINNING
tomboy287 The USA has been on top for over a decade. 2004, 05, 07, 08, 09, 11, 12, 13 and 2014 in the AA. And 2003, 07, 11, 12 and 2014 in the team.
I believe that Elfi exaggerated the mistake of that last pass on Rebecca's routine. Then again, Elfi exaggerates almost everything an anything
Which routine beam, bars,floor,vault
+Hope Higgins FX
Looking back on this, it makes you wonder if maybe some of the athletes' heads weren't in the game and they made so many mistakes because they had just been abused by Nassar and they couldn't shake it enough to perform well.
Yeah, many of them looked a little distracted
We should start calling Tim Dagget "The Jinxer"
IKR!
Yea… :T
LOL
Definitely. He is the most ANNOYING AND DRAMATIC commentator EVER! 😠
he needs to be fired
Poor Gabby. She looked so defeated, you could see it in her face. So proud that she was able to go out to the Olympics a year later and take the gold tho!
I know this is years late but the music playing while Chellsie is preparing for her vault around 1:18:00 is from the Avatar score! It took me a sec to realize what it was from but I think it's specifically the piece called "Becoming one of the people". Such a stunning piece of music!
Some really wonderful music and choreo in this meet, despite the prevalent mistakes.
It a shame Alicia got injured. Her floor routine was her best choreographed ever. And her beam was improved and sturdier than ever. She could have made the Olympics in 2012 and medaled on vault, beam, possibly floor.
I love young gabby a year later she’s gold all around 👏🏽
It's good that Chellise made a come back to competing in gymnastics, for this Visa Championships. Along with two of her 2008 Olympic gymnastic teammates, Shawn and Alicia. Plus non Olympic teammates: Jordyn, Rebecca, Mckayla Alexandra. They're all my favorite. In addition, I loved how they did on their routines (for on both day 1 and day 2). Although if they had lost a points due to an errors, an injury on their routine, or didn't do four routines, at this Visa Championships.
Anyone else see McKayla Maroney stick her amanar vault in the background at 22:07 ? Wish that NBC would've recorded that!
That was a warm up hence no proper coverage, but girl could vault like a beast!
I miss Chow so much.
I wz just thinking...what if just once...at the most intense moment...trying to focus on the beam...when the whole place goes quiet...you hear that scream..."COME ON (insert name) YOU GOT IT!! COME ON!" 👏🏻 immediately (insert name) loses it for just 3seconds & SNAPS...whips her head around & screams back..."SHUT UP! I'M TRYING TO FOCUS!!" And proceeds to do a flawless routine👏🏻 I pictured it in my mind's eye & its HILAAARIOUS🤣🤣
I wish so badly Rebecca did a full twisting instead of a double or just scratched vault and took a break :(
You think Tim will ever realize a Van Leeuwen is NOT a Khorkina?
Probablynotlol
@@kaylajones4356 He called a Kochetkova on beam a Khorkina too.
Everyone in the world basically just says shap half at this point lol
He’s wrong about a bunch of other things too lol
Wasn’t it also coined a Khorkina?
why the only event from maroney that they didnt show was vault?? that makes no sense
Awwww, baby Gabby!
A girl at my gym tore her ACL just like Shawn Johnson, she was out for the whole season. Finally she got cleared, but 2 months (or so) later, she tore her ACL again😬
She's good!!
Bross has the most unique leg shape I’ve ever seen, not saying it’s ugly or bad it’s just different.
Watching John Geddert after everything that surfaced about his awful, abusive coaching style and support of Nassar is sickening
Wieber loved Geddert so he can't be that bad.
@@tonywilson8645 you don't know them? you're seeing them on a screen.
He’s dead now after not turning himself in. That’s crazy. My heart continues to go out to the girls 🇺🇸🙏🏾😔
I kept thinking please stop touching her thigh
@@elishajean2670 Wieber didn't have a bad experience with Geddert. Her parents were actively involved in making sure she was treated appropriately and not overworked, and she was his star, so she was treated well. I think Wieber has very conflicted feelings about him, and that's perfectly okay.
"he has never had a world or Olympic gymnast before"
one year later, a girl he coaches comes home with an Olypic gold medal
💚 you Jordyn
Pitu Fina well do you who won’t come home with a gold medal, you not for spelling at least
Pitu Fina Screw him! He’s a liar, a cheat and a thief. He is a disgrace to the sport and did not deserve his position, nor his power.
Chellsie is a beast on beam!
What was the floor music playing while Chellsie was on vault? I know the music, but I can seem to place it.
Alicia Waiting at the corner on alys first pass was so cute I died 18:35
Memel should have been on this team 😭😭
When chelsie is on vault what floor music is playing in the background???
watching this girl play makes me feel like I can fly 😅 this performance is amazing 👏 ❤
Ally was good on her floor rotine the way she had power in her second tumbbling pas it was brilliant.
I jumped when Rebecca fell from beam! Didn't see that one coming AT ALL
Seems like Tim predicted what would happen to Rebecca Bross when he was talking about career-ending falls...
Chelsie's beam performance.. What a warrior!!!!
So terrible that Shawn Johnson got injured Skiing. She could have made history in her 2nd and possibly 3rd Olympics. She was only 19 in 2012 & 23 in 2016. 😀
Little did these commentators know that Chellsie Memmel would make a 3rd comeback at age 32 years old in 2020-21. She performed in the Gold Over America Tour and she was beautiful. 🌹 I remember watching this live and was actually shocked at all the falls. Alicia, Shawn, Mykayla, Jordan Wieber, Gabby, Bross all had major deductions.
Alicia's routine was so in time with the music! Even when she fell it could have almost been coreography xD
thank God Gabby & Simone came along when she did, she saved this sport, and brought much needed excitement.
Black Doll that stupid swearing 🤬
If I got to chose any of these coaches to coach me I would love to have Chow and Li as coaches. 😍
What was Gabby Douglas' score for floor?
yeah i noticed that too, but she wasnt a big gymnast then so they had all there focus on shawns comback and the uprising gymnast like raisman and weiber.
I think this is the only time they don’t broadcast McKayla’s vault. I’m shocked. I know it was because Jordyn was on floor but still.
Acho tão fofo a Chelsie com o pai dela😍😍
still asking myself why almost everything had gone so wrong here, never ever was a championship worse than this
because they were being abused
@@elishajean2670 Yeah around this time, a lot of the gymnast here were sadly. Either by that monster, their coaches training, or both smh
I was really rooting for Alicia in her comeback, but her not doing bars (and historically being weak on bars) just killed her. There were way too many strong all around gymnasts in this quad and if there were gonna be any non-all-around specialists for USA at the Olympics the year following this they needed to be a strong bar worker. And even that didn't happen, they took 5 all-around gymnasts. And the final nail in the coffin was when Alicia got injured later this year and had to go down to just vault and beam and took out floor. Alicia in 2012 was no longer a vaulting specialist because the USA had advanced in vaulting just just much. Her main vault was valued at a 6.3 and in 2004 and 2008 that helped the USA, in 2012 it would have actually HURT the USA as the 5 female gymnasts they took were ALL capable of the 6.5 valued amanar vault. Though Kyla started doing just the double twist starting at the 2012 national championships and made the team mostly through her bars and beam BUT she was capable of the 2.5 amanar. I mean, it was truly amazing when you think about it how strong USA was on vault in this quad. So for Alicia, actually bringing down the difficulty level for his "best event", frankly, it doomed her chances for 2012. I unfortunatly felt the same for Shawn Johnson too. The only 1 of the 3 veterans making the comeback (well 4 if you count Nastia, who I think had a shot if she began her comeback in 2011 not 2012) here with a chance at the 2012 team would have been Chelsea Memmel with her strong bars and beam and being an all around gymnast (though weak at vault, but again since USA was so strong on vault she could have been in contention cause they didn't need a strong vaulter in their bar specialist for 2012). Leading up to 2012 and 2016, any junior US gymnast that dreamed of the Olympics should have put 50% of their training focus on bars. A strong bar worker just raises your chances so much of being on the US Womens Olympic Gymnastics Team! AND even though McKayla Maroney was a solid all around gymnasts, she was also the best vaulter the US had, better than Alicia. That further doomed Alicia. Absolutly no room on a 5 person team for TWO people with vault as their best event, especially if one of them isn't even an all-around gymnast.
Rebecca Bross' last tumbling pass (53:54) was right on the music!
Oops I meant 53:50
Poor Sabrina I know how she feels. I was in that same situation when i was a swimmer when I made a mistake. I know exactly where she's coming from. I think coaches shouldn't be so hard on their athletes when they know they make a mistake it just makes them worse
I agree
PRACTICE FULL, STAMINA FULL, STRONG FULL, PLAYERS PLAYING BEAUTIFUL GYMNAST ........
Comparing gymnasts to an old tire... rude.
Why weren’t they showing scores ?
Mmk..wz it really necessary to zoom in & stay on Miss Vega's face when she's trying to fight back tears?! Not cool.
what’s Alicia’s floor music
I love star ⭐️
Who is the other male commentator? I'm only 30 minutes in, but so far so good.
I just went to answer this question, and I saw that I am the one who asked it 😂😎 It's John Roethlisberger... oops!
One hell of a triple full mount from Alicia, dang. And the height on that Arabian! Phew!
Every time the commentators were commenting on Gabbie’s youth and inconsistency and genuinely being doubtful, I just kept thinking that is your soon to be Olympic AA gold medal winner! It seemed so unlikely at this point. What an Olympics performance she put in!
Does anyone know WHY Bross took off so much time after the previous Worlds? She was on the podium, she was still very much in the mix.
They said it was because she had a fractured foot at worlds and needed time to recover
Jordyn’s routines
Beam 11:45
Floor 28:13
Vault 44:42
Bars 1:22:45
Alicia Sacramone’s floor music is from the Hunger Games!!! Wow!
I love ally raismen
Lisette levario
Is it just me or did they not show McKayla Maroney's vault....?
32:50
"I'm just happy to be getting back to competition."
When you know that the next day of competition she disappears again... :l
It would have been cool to see alicia vs mckayla at World's on the vault. I wonder who would have won...
ajlove2013 myckayla for sure!!! alicia's first vault is huge but mykayla has a higher start value and she's excellent at it too. alicia's second vault though is too low compared to maroneys
How cute are Aly and Alicia as teammates?! 🤩
It’s not called a Khorkina it’s a Van Leuween 27:30
I would love to see McKayla throw a full in dm on beam
Gabby's mistake at roughly 6:40 is almost identical to what happened at Olympic prelims.
Does Makayla have the same coach Mattie?
Alison Watson yes
Wow, look at nationals this year, or even 2012 and compare it with this hot mess! What was going on??
1st roluation
2nd place Alexandra raisman
3rd place chelise Memmel
4th place Alicia sacramone
6th place Gabrielle Douglas
7th place Jordan wieber
I really felt McKayla Maroney's routines were handled very poorly! She was a great tumbler but they gave her that third pass which was a built in error. She also didn't need that first low-to-high ball skill which is a tough skill, that she didn't need, and caused her a lot of trouble as well! She fell on the skill at the trials in 2012. She also had issues with that 3rd pass on her floor routine at the trials too! These issues killed her when it came to her all around performances at the nationals and trials!
Maroney got second AA in this competition beating aly
I know that the vault was what hurt because. But tbh valeri shouldn't have made her do such a difficult beam dismount. It's almost never been a stick or even close to a good landing for her. Why he didn't change it to double pike or double full i don't know why. The dismount is scary. Blind landing. Etc. But why valeri didn't water it down????? I know he wants to build champions, but would it be worth having a star class athlete get injured?