I agree that Komova threw it away. No gymnast deserves to win...they earn their win. Komova didn't earn it. Yes, she's a beautiful gymnast to watch. With that said, a gymnast should get the respect if they fight for their title.
Does anyone else realize Yao Jinnan would have won if she didn't fall off the beam. She was in 3rd behind Wieber by .7 a fall is 1 whole point plus devalue of that skilled preformed!!
Well, Jordyn would've won by an even larger margin had she not had her mistake on the bars. And Vika would've won had she not gotten so sloppy on floor. That's kind of the nature of these championships--at the very top, don't fall off or you won't win.
Well actually the commentators didn't really know, and it was hard to see (if I'm remembering correctly), but Viktoria Komova fell put of that last spin way to soon and caused a very significant deduction (and lowered her difficulty score i think b/c she didn't finish it) There was also about a full point of deductions from the tumbling skills and landings. So the judging was fair i say. The score Viktoria needed was something she hadn't been able to get to in awhile also
The reason I watched this was because I'm a fan of USA's gymnasts, Jordyn And Aly (Alexandra), that are competing in it. It's good to see that Jordyn Wieber won medal and that it was gold she won. But I wish that Aly (Alexandra) Raisman won silver or bronze.
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I would've preferred Komova to win, but she didn't exactly put on a winning performance, either. She hit her feet on the high bar in her bar routine, she wobbled through the last 4/5 of her beam routine, and she fell out of turns, jumped out of landings, and landed her last pass really short and didn't even try to fight for it. All of that is just as bad as 1 major break for Wieber on bars.
That is very true. She admitted at her retirement speech that this was exactly the case. She still got two world titles on bars, two AA silvers between worlds and the Olympics, and a team Olympic silver. That’s very impressive stuff and something she can be very proud of. Now she’s married- maybe she’ll have a daughter who can follow her footsteps!
@@sambutterfield8960 yess I was so upset for her and it makes me mad when people say Gabby didn't deserve her win when she was pretty consistent through all the events. That vault really messed komova up sms I guess she didn't think she had much of a chance when she wasn't in first so she gave up. It's such a shame too because she's such a talented gymnasts and even with all her mistakes, she STILL got silver. I think coming close to gold at worlds messed her confidence too
@@sambutterfield8960 - But Komova cried whenever she came in second back in those days, be it losing by .033 here or losing by .266 the following year in the Olympics.
@@BigSleepyOx well tbh i would've taken viktoria komova for the Olympic title since that floor routine of hers was a one in a million when they have near perfection landings
@@BigSleepyOxlet’s face it, the dream to be world or Olympic champion is HUGE. She had come up a little short and definitely had a right to be disappointed in the results. Later on in her career she spoke with the utmost praise and appreciation for her accomplishments in the sport- being a silver medalist is still an unfathomable achievement.
Kayla Jones it really could’ve gone either way obviously but there were glaring errors in almost every landing. She also fell out of a couple of her turns. It’s a shame, the 2011 worlds and 2012 olympics medals were hers to lose.
i agree, aly needs to step it up with bars which she should have done years ago, seems she was a better bars worker when she was a junior and lighter, she would place higher in international AA competitions and get medals if she were
If they want a chance at getting their gymnasts into All-Around podium spots (gold, silver, bronze) The Romanians need to start training bars, If they spend as much time training bars as they do beam, Romania's gymnasts can place in the all-around, but we are just not seeing those bars!
Joey Lavarias Well, there is no denying that, but that is only of the Romanians, because they are prestigious on beam, It is true that Iordache has some potential on bars, but if you compare her against the Russians (Aliya Mustafina, Viktoria Komova) Or Even the Chinese (Yao Jinnan, who just got a Mo on bars) Ioradache is kinda behind. I love her as a gymnast, but her bars aren't the most difficult
Joey Lavarias Well I have been watching Ioradache's progress, her beam getting stronger, bars staying the same, if not getting more weaker. The Romanians need to focus on beam, or else they wont contend for medals in all around.
+Kae Kae Jones Unfortunately, bars break fairly easily (unlike floor and vault), are expensive, and there's really no easy way to create a facsimile for them (unlike beam and floor). When the bars break, the smaller Romanian gyms-- where young gymnasts learn the basics-- can't afford to replace them. So a lot of Romanian gymnasts don't get to do bars at all until they get good enough on other events to go train in Deva. No matter how hard you train when you're older, it just never becomes automatic second-nature the way it does when you train from a younger age. So the question for Romania really becomes, how can they afford to supply the smaller regional gyms with uneven bars when they break? So far they haven't been able to come up with a solution, and their bars situation is unlikely to get much better until they do.
Up until the fall she was saying what a beautiful routine it was, so was Tim. Then she fell. So are they just supposed to ignore that and pretend it didn't happen?
Great upload! Thank you so much! I didn't realize how close it was between Jordyn and Viktoria. Watching it in full, I do think Jordyn was scored properly on all events but I think Viktoria was underscored on bars. I like them both so I'm not complaining but wow... tight race!!! Very exciting for London and go USA!
Just watched this whole program again and it was great competition and drama. Gymnastics is great drama for sure. Just like the great American movies where the hero is down and behind but comes back to win. Hate the commentators all you want but they called everything right even before the scores come out.
It always amazes me that year after year the women have a great team and the men don't. The women are always battling for the gold medal and the men are just trying to stay in the top ten. Are they not following the same training schedules? I am ready to see a men's team fighting for the gold.
Ya know?, Dagget and Schlegle remind me of an old adage, "those who can, do. those who no longer can, coach. Those who can't, comment of those who do". I am paraphrasing of course.
Why do some teams just not use grips on uneven bars because that's another reason why they're not doing good I don't think bare hands on uneven bars feels nice
Yeah I know I watched the whole thing...but it came down to the floor routines. In fact, if you look back at it Jordyn was down by more than 4 tenths of a point.
I prefer the BBC commentary.. BUT.. i like watching these because 1) I want to listen and laugh of waht elfi, tim and Al say 2) because her they show the ''good'' gymnastics.. not like bbc that shows every single gymnast... and sometimes is nice seeing Amanars, double doubles, closed legs on the bars.. and no balance checks on the beam.. instead of watching full twisting yurchenkos, 2 twist as a first pass on floor, barely any release on the bars, and 300000 balance checks on the balance beam :p 3) i like listening how biaase they are
Yes, as infuriating as these idiots are, it's sometimes fun to listen their aggressive stupidity. When people defend NBC and ask why, if you hate them so much, are you listening to them I like to bring up that reason. Plus, they are so deserving of the scorn they get.
The BBC are just as bias towards team GB watch Beth Tweedle on Bars in Beijing. Making fun of Nastia because she was mad after Beth's routine because of her own results.
+George39821 I agree with your points, of course, but I like seeing the better gymnastics instead of seeing those falls and balance checks. And their accents annoy me
Do you want me to spell them out for you? "cowboy-ed" double arabian (like nastia's double front?) -0.1 Landing deduction -0.1 Double tuck landing deduction -0.3 Split leap 1/1 landing deduction: -0.1 Crossed legs in triple twist: -0.1 Landing deduction: -0.1 Off on her Memmel: -0.1 Double back pike low landing: -0.1 Step forward: -0.3 That makes sense to you? 15.7-1.3=14.4, which is around what she got here.
It really doesn't matter, because it's not anybody else's fault that she lost. She needs to see that fact that she lost because she had mistakes here and there and didn't fight at all on floor.
She understood that in the end- here and in London. At her retirement she stated she was proud of what she’d accomplished and had great respect for everyone she competed against. That shows great maturity, sportsmanship and appreciation for her craft. It’s different in the moment itself, when you dream of something and fall a little short. Anyone would be mentally beat down by it.
Why is it sometimes ‘wider than their shoulders’ , and sometimes ‘more than a meter’ on the steps on dismount on vault? Tim says one or the other, I’m confused.
Wow. I just thought of something. In the pre-release version of the 2013-2016 Code of points, a 1.5 twist + Double arabian has a connection bonus of 0.3. Which means that Viktoria would have gained an extra tenth if they used the CoP. Viktoria would have won?!?!
she could have won regardless. and we don’t really know what would have happened because they both could also have had different skills in the 13-16 code
Yeah, that's what its about. She's got a lot of desire in that tiny body of hers and she's got to use every inch of it. Hope she comes back as a more mature 20 year old. But its hard to see that happening in this day and age. Some gymnasts do return for multi Olympics and championships.
Actual there weren't any chinese gymnast in the top five. It went Douglas, Komova, Mustafina, Raisman, then Izbasa who is Romanian. Deng Linlin and Huang Qiushang did take 6th and 7th respectively so your point was right. I just didn't want you to discredit the Romanians since they did take home more medals then China did on the womens side of the competition.
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I agree that Komova threw it away. No gymnast deserves to win...they earn their win. Komova didn't earn it. Yes, she's a beautiful gymnast to watch. With that said, a gymnast should get the respect if they fight for their title.
For me. Komova just doesn't do anything for me.
Does anyone else realize Yao Jinnan would have won if she didn't fall off the beam. She was in 3rd behind Wieber by .7 a fall is 1 whole point plus devalue of that skilled preformed!!
Well, Jordyn would've won by an even larger margin had she not had her mistake on the bars. And Vika would've won had she not gotten so sloppy on floor. That's kind of the nature of these championships--at the very top, don't fall off or you won't win.
Thad would face been awesome if Yao would have won
@@NYCBlondeVika underperformed in the finals by almost 1.2 points, so if everybody hits vika would still win
Wow. I forgot that Christine “Peng Peng” Lee competed in this world championships.
Well actually the commentators didn't really know, and it was hard to see (if I'm remembering correctly), but Viktoria Komova fell put of that last spin way to soon and caused a very significant deduction (and lowered her difficulty score i think b/c she didn't finish it) There was also about a full point of deductions from the tumbling skills and landings. So the judging was fair i say. The score Viktoria needed was something she hadn't been able to get to in awhile also
I like having stuff like this as one video instead of in seperate videos
The reason I watched this was because I'm a fan of USA's gymnasts, Jordyn And Aly (Alexandra), that are competing in it. It's good to see that Jordyn Wieber won medal and that it was gold she won. But I wish that Aly (Alexandra) Raisman won silver or bronze.
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im so sad the olympics got postponed! it’s for the best though
Is it bad that I'm old enough to remember when the Romanians were the team to beat every year?
You're not the only one, don't worry!
Is it bad that you are in your 30s or 40s? No....
@QPHashSS77 ? Who's trashing them?
I'm old enough to remember when the (former) Soviets were dominant in gymnastics!
I absolutely love Huang's floor music. Gotta tell Coach to change my routine.
I would've preferred Komova to win, but she didn't exactly put on a winning performance, either. She hit her feet on the high bar in her bar routine, she wobbled through the last 4/5 of her beam routine, and she fell out of turns, jumped out of landings, and landed her last pass really short and didn't even try to fight for it. All of that is just as bad as 1 major break for Wieber on bars.
That is very true. She admitted at her retirement speech that this was exactly the case. She still got two world titles on bars, two AA silvers between worlds and the Olympics, and a team Olympic silver. That’s very impressive stuff and something she can be very proud of. Now she’s married- maybe she’ll have a daughter who can follow her footsteps!
She also was devoid of any sportsmanship whatsoever. She didn't even shake the winner's hand. Now that's a sore loser.
"Look at your precious Victoria Komova- couldn’t hit FOUR FOR FOUR AND LOST!"
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Awwww I felt so bad for Koko..... Her Bar routine started so good, but the rest....
Yao is a really beautiful gymnast. She stuck her double layout in floor exercise. It was amazing
Jordan Wieber is such an inspiration!
I love Jordyn's floor routine.
It makes me sad to see Koko holding back tears after her falls on bars :(
totally agree, always feels like she gives up with any little mistake
yes! especially in one of her vaults at the olympics! she took one step and then just gave up.
who?
@@avaandhaley1355 - komova
@@sambutterfield8960 yess I was so upset for her and it makes me mad when people say Gabby didn't deserve her win when she was pretty consistent through all the events. That vault really messed komova up sms I guess she didn't think she had much of a chance when she wasn't in first so she gave up. It's such a shame too because she's such a talented gymnasts and even with all her mistakes, she STILL got silver. I think coming close to gold at worlds messed her confidence too
I agree with the sport broadcaster that Alexandra's Vault was beautiful.
crying doesn't mean blame...it's just an emotion.
YAO IS MY GOOD, HER FLOOR AND BEAM (DESPITE THE FALL) WAS SO GOOD
Wish she won :)
Ana Porgras was a great gymnast. Unfortunately she had to leave gymnastics. She deserved to compete in London...
agreed, she is very graceful and fluid on bars, her attitude is a different matter
I would've cried if I knew I lost the gold by only .003 and less than a tenth.
yeah she had every reason to cry. it sucks so much when you lose by so little and know you can win and have worked so hard.
@@sambutterfield8960 - But Komova cried whenever she came in second back in those days, be it losing by .033 here or losing by .266 the following year in the Olympics.
@@BigSleepyOx
well tbh i would've taken viktoria komova for the Olympic title since that floor routine of hers was a one in a million when they have near perfection landings
@@BigSleepyOxlet’s face it, the dream to be world or Olympic champion is HUGE. She had come up a little short and definitely had a right to be disappointed in the results. Later on in her career she spoke with the utmost praise and appreciation for her accomplishments in the sport- being a silver medalist is still an unfathomable achievement.
Jordyn beat Komova in the end. I think Komova got way over confident towards the floor rotation
Kayla Jones it really could’ve gone either way obviously but there were glaring errors in almost every landing. She also fell out of a couple of her turns. It’s a shame, the 2011 worlds and 2012 olympics medals were hers to lose.
@@ericyu2270 *gold medals
9:27 "Maybe adjust her handguards a few more times." 🤣 Elfie is such a savage.
i love komova and she was definitely deserving of winning but she just didn’t perform up to her potential here or in London.
Yao Jinnan’s dismounts are perfect
At 6:24 “she doesn’t take your breath away”
A second later.. Tim (gagging next to her about how great her pirouettes were)
i agree, aly needs to step it up with bars which she should have done years ago, seems she was a better bars worker when she was a junior and lighter, she would place higher in international AA competitions and get medals if she were
Komova accidentally showed up to the party wearing the same thing as the Americans, whoopsies 😳 lol
Awesome! I can't wait to sit down and watch this!
If they want a chance at getting their gymnasts into All-Around podium spots (gold, silver, bronze) The Romanians need to start training bars, If they spend as much time training bars as they do beam, Romania's gymnasts can place in the all-around, but we are just not seeing those bars!
Well there is some hope in Larisa Iordache, her bar set is the most difficult and in my opinion, the best executed, Romanian bar routine.
Joey Lavarias Well, there is no denying that, but that is only of the Romanians, because they are prestigious on beam, It is true that Iordache has some potential on bars, but if you compare her against the Russians (Aliya Mustafina, Viktoria Komova) Or Even the Chinese (Yao Jinnan, who just got a Mo on bars) Ioradache is kinda behind. I love her as a gymnast, but her bars aren't the most difficult
True that. Hopefully she'll continue to upgrade as the quad continues, as I would love for the all-around battle to be extremely fierce.
Joey Lavarias Well I have been watching Ioradache's progress, her beam getting stronger, bars staying the same, if not getting more weaker. The Romanians need to focus on beam, or else they wont contend for medals in all around.
+Kae Kae Jones Unfortunately, bars break fairly easily (unlike floor and vault), are expensive, and there's really no easy way to create a facsimile for them (unlike beam and floor). When the bars break, the smaller Romanian gyms-- where young gymnasts learn the basics-- can't afford to replace them. So a lot of Romanian gymnasts don't get to do bars at all until they get good enough on other events to go train in Deva. No matter how hard you train when you're older, it just never becomes automatic second-nature the way it does when you train from a younger age. So the question for Romania really becomes, how can they afford to supply the smaller regional gyms with uneven bars when they break? So far they haven't been able to come up with a solution, and their bars situation is unlikely to get much better until they do.
glad you're a fan of Alicia as well, she's the most decorated US gymnast, but you would have easily looked up the info
Ana Progras is a good gymnast, she is good on floor, but her legs were separated on the double layout.
I love how Elfie was so busy bashing Koko she missed a lot of gorgeous work going on. Fail.
Up until the fall she was saying what a beautiful routine it was, so was Tim. Then she fell. So are they just supposed to ignore that and pretend it didn't happen?
Jordyn blew it away on floor X. That’s where she won over Komova. Otherwise, they were very close.
awww I can't believe Peng Peng won't be in London! :(
this is a great video i love it
Viktoria Komova has a lot of growing up to do. She's a talented one but she needs to keep at a routine if its going the wrong way.
Great upload! Thank you so much! I didn't realize how close it was between Jordyn and Viktoria. Watching it in full, I do think Jordyn was scored properly on all events but I think Viktoria was underscored on bars. I like them both so I'm not complaining but wow... tight race!!! Very exciting for London and go USA!
Just watched this whole program again and it was great competition and drama. Gymnastics is great drama for sure. Just like the great American movies where the hero is down and behind but comes back to win. Hate the commentators all you want but they called everything right even before the scores come out.
Exactly.
@@Gymnastics-me8hu 8 years buddy, thx 😊
okay thanks i was wondering that for along time!!
The peak of competitive gymnastics! After this it slowly became less exciting
i love ana porgras, but she looked really gaunt at this worlds
Omg Elfie. Get it together.
Go USA. And the commentators are perfect. Their scores are 17.000
Why didn't they show Aly's beam routine??? 💔
Funny how gabby douglas is now a huge challenger and in October she was barely a factor on only the uneven bars
And proved it in the biggest way possible in London!
omg Raluca Oana Haidu aka Pitic!!!
It always amazes me that year after year the women have a great team and the men don't. The women are always battling for the gold medal and the men are just trying to stay in the top ten. Are they not following the same training schedules? I am ready to see a men's team fighting for the gold.
no they are perfect
She hit her feet on the high bar? Can u tell me which skill?:) (I went through the whole routine and I didn't seem to see it sorry xD)
1:10:03 Komova was at a beautiful gorgeous spin but then she clunked it and ruined it by landing abruptly
1:10: 07 actually.
yes
Elfi was in a MOOD here.
And yes I know that Jordyn's maximum score for floor was higher than Komova's
whats the start value for viktoria's floor? i cant see her deductions except the landings and that last spin..........
wheres aly's beam routine on here??????
nbc didnt decide to air here's ig
I know! that's why I was talking about the pre-release version instead of the official one. Just an imagination :)
7:31 that guy has some cute shoes!
yes sir i know
I liked it except for the part in the beginning where she swings her arms behind her back. I laughed at that part. Lol.
Safety concerns should be apart of the new quad code of points
"a part" of, not "apart" of
Did anyone notice the panel screen said 0 for difficulty for kseniia afanaseva's vault
Ya know?, Dagget and Schlegle remind me of an old adage, "those who can, do. those who no longer can, coach. Those who can't, comment of those who do". I am paraphrasing of course.
Considering Tim is an Olympic CHAMPION, he can say what he does. Elfi was only ever a passing fair gymnast so she really should have shut up.
Jordyns bar score was kinda harsh
Why do some teams just not use grips on uneven bars because that's another reason why they're not doing good I don't think bare hands on uneven bars feels nice
Did you not see the closing ceremony? The next Olympics will be in Rio.
Yeah I know I watched the whole thing...but it came down to the floor routines. In fact, if you look back at it Jordyn was down by more than 4 tenths of a point.
I prefer the BBC commentary.. BUT.. i like watching these because
1) I want to listen and laugh of waht elfi, tim and Al say
2) because her they show the ''good'' gymnastics.. not like bbc that shows every single gymnast... and sometimes is nice seeing Amanars, double doubles, closed legs on the bars.. and no balance checks on the beam.. instead of watching full twisting yurchenkos, 2 twist as a first pass on floor, barely any release on the bars, and 300000 balance checks on the balance beam :p
3) i like listening how biaase they are
FINALLY!!! someone I can agree with!!
Yes, as infuriating as these idiots are, it's sometimes fun to listen their aggressive stupidity. When people defend NBC and ask why, if you hate them so much, are you listening to them I like to bring up that reason. Plus, they are so deserving of the scorn they get.
The BBC are just as bias towards team GB watch Beth Tweedle on Bars in Beijing. Making fun of Nastia because she was mad after Beth's routine because of her own results.
+Jorge Lara Alvarez I thought this was the world feed? Didn't BBC show the exact same gymnasts and routines?
The LO Jaeger. You can also hear it.
i gonna be on the next london olympics 2016 lol
Wieber also went OOB in her fx though.
wish I hadn't quit gymnastics...
+George39821 I agree with your points, of course, but I like seeing the better gymnastics instead of seeing those falls and balance checks. And their accents annoy me
I know!!! And apparently she was a gymnast herself so I hope people said the same things about her!
Do you want me to spell them out for you?
"cowboy-ed" double arabian (like nastia's double front?) -0.1
Landing deduction -0.1
Double tuck landing deduction -0.3
Split leap 1/1 landing deduction: -0.1
Crossed legs in triple twist: -0.1
Landing deduction: -0.1
Off on her Memmel: -0.1
Double back pike low landing: -0.1
Step forward: -0.3
That makes sense to you? 15.7-1.3=14.4, which is around what she got here.
@gymnixx2012 i am a dancer too, yes they are.
Did Alicia get aedel since she was on the team or not?
omgerd I love Jordyn Wieber
yes omfg
It really doesn't matter, because it's not anybody else's fault that she lost. She needs to see that fact that she lost because she had mistakes here and there and didn't fight at all on floor.
im sure they see that but they can be upset they lost. they aren’t robots they’re teenagers
She understood that in the end- here and in London. At her retirement she stated she was proud of what she’d accomplished and had great respect for everyone she competed against. That shows great maturity, sportsmanship and appreciation for her craft. It’s different in the moment itself, when you dream of something and fall a little short. Anyone would be mentally beat down by it.
Why is it sometimes ‘wider than their shoulders’ , and sometimes ‘more than a meter’ on the steps on dismount on vault? Tim says one or the other, I’m confused.
The guidelines change from quad to quad. If Tim said both in the same video, it is probably because he is a Silly Goose.
Wow. I just thought of something. In the pre-release version of the 2013-2016 Code of points, a 1.5 twist + Double arabian has a connection bonus of 0.3. Which means that Viktoria would have gained an extra tenth if they used the CoP. Viktoria would have won?!?!
she could have won regardless. and we don’t really know what would have happened because they both could also have had different skills in the 13-16 code
they finalized the cop and decided to just stick with the .2 connection bonus like before...
Which commentator?
yes but that would have been too easy lol i just didnt think about that lolzzz
Tim and Elfie were both gymnasts, they know what they're talking about.
They're still the worst commentators ever.
anyone agree that Yao was amazing 4 years ago but didn't get stronger until that bars gold in 2014???
Yeah, that's what its about. She's got a lot of desire in that tiny body of hers and she's got to use every inch of it. Hope she comes back as a more mature 20 year old. But its hard to see that happening in this day and age. Some gymnasts do return for multi Olympics and championships.
Are 20 years that i follow gym ... and is so strange. When points are ever close americans gym ever have a little more than others ...
what do u mean x
You mean it was like .424 or something like that right? that's less than .5
well you do know there are three other routines right? vault, bars and beam
How did Komova hit her feet on the high bar? I didn't see it.
I think Layout Geiger, you can hear the hit
11:08 Haidu just performed without grips??
yup people are underestimating her
What's up with yau's all double numbers at the end of all her scores on an event? Lol
Why is Ally wearing tights??
Actual there weren't any chinese gymnast in the top five. It went Douglas, Komova, Mustafina, Raisman, then Izbasa who is Romanian. Deng Linlin and Huang Qiushang did take 6th and 7th respectively so your point was right. I just didn't want you to discredit the Romanians since they did take home more medals then China did on the womens side of the competition.
why tim say huang inconsistent????? she made olyimpics