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As a veteran stellaris player, I learned that the universe is cruel and the only solution for it is to eat galaxies.
Sounds reasonable
playing with xeno compatibility one just one time is motivation enough to go fanatic purifier every time after.
Peace was never a answer it was a question the answer was na that gets you killed when the scourge and unbidden show up
I actually went down the "become the crisis" in my latest playthrough of Stellaris. All the other factions in the galaxy declared war upon me. I took a few seconds to laugh at their foolishness, used a sun that i had turned into a giant laser gun, pointed it at the capital of the largest empire opposing me and blew the entire solar system to kingdom come and said "game on"
That sounds amazing. Need to experience this madness someday.
I think Disney said only the movies are canon when they took over the franchise. Just destroying all the history of the Star Wars universe.
WHY!!!! ofc Disney destroys yet another good thing.
@@TheLegitWeebsso you don't want replies?
@@evilgibson ? If you're referring to the links being removed that's not the case. You can still leave the title of videos or channel suggestions.
To be fair to Disney (fully 100% hate the sequels) Lucas had a similar policy. If the movies overwrote a part in history the movies were correct. There was a clone wars eu for a while before the prequels. It was okay and it wasn't a major loss as some of the new clone wars followed the beats of the old one... but it did make some older fans angry it was wiped out.
That said fully wiping out the old republic is rage inducing
@@TheLegitWeebsit’s because they are brain dead. The main bich who was president or whatever of Disney Star Wars after they basically non cannon all the extended universe stories would then say they had no source material to work off of which is biggest bullcrap nonsense ever with literally hundreds of stories and ideas all with dozens of years of comics, fan feedback, out look, direction, budget, stories, ideas, possibilities, design philosophy and so much more and they royally fucked it. Disney just another corporation run by pure morons but this time not even about greed or money just clueless moron putting self insert characters and their own crappy hypocrite narrow minded politics inside it and even then still messed it up.
HAH! Stellaris! The game that teaches us to prioritize logistics over morals.
It's just good business
@@TheLegitWeebs You would like it
@@TheLegitWeebs *Imperial Navy theme plays as it slowly pans over Legit's face.*
Just to add: The Transcendence was stomped not by the entire Xeelee military force, but by a single average Xeelee ship.
So you’re telling me one xeelee, who probably was just on the level of some random grunt, curb stomped god-like humans? Just how OP is this setting if we got big bang guns and omnipotent birds?
@@Beepers559 What makes the Xeelee truly OP is how easily they weaponize time travel, they can easily retcon the entire universe whenever they feel like it just because
@@UserName-hb7hw and apparently like what you said, a race of humans was trounced not by a collective effort of an army of xeelee, but just one guy. And these guys are stronger than the ICOG who have the big bloody bang in a gun, heck they probably also have big bang guns. Guess a lesson here is time travel is an OP weapon
@@Beepers559 i've browsed some Vs threads in powerscaling forums involving the Xeelee, and even in the threads involving 40K, the Xeelee stomped. There is literally the term "Xeeleestomp" which was coined by Spacebattles to show how broken they are.
And you know what's crazier? The Xeelee are not even Stephen Baxter's strongest characters.
@@UserName-hb7hw yeah I remember the video mentioning the photino birds and that those birds were so absurdly broken that they didn’t even know the xeelee, masters of baryonic matter that could probably turn scp 682 into a very literal cheese wedge, were fighting them. They just went about business as per usual making the heat death of the universe happen billions of years sooner because they want it to be more comfy. Makes me wonder if there’s something even more OP
20:36 No seriously. That's how they dealt with Zamasu when he started taking over everything. Goku pushed the Summon Grand Zeno button and he was like "Yeah this place is icky, all of existence go away" and he promptly unmade the *entire universe*.
40k is the sci Fi PDF. If you can't beat them without prep time you aren't a high powered sci Fi.
I have to agree. 40k does make a lot of references to other media, but only until I got into 40k did I realize how many other Sci-Fi stories take inspiration from 40k.
@@TheLegitWeebs its the GW way and its not just Scifi morcocks eternal champion books had some minor influence on warhammer as well.
And by minor i mean they flat out copied Chaos down to the logo and made Melnibona edgy elves.
@@vonfaustien3957 the 8th pointed star is a historical symbol that has been used for more then a thousand years i think it comes from history not another setting
@@vonfaustien3957 Not to mention the Witcher plagiarism shit. Elric cant get a break
@@viktorgabriel2554 It still doesn't hinder the fact that Warhammer 40K took a lot of "inspirations" from other Sci Fi and Fantasy settings that are on "High Sci Fi" & "Fantasy Epics" scale, Warhammer 40K settings are stuck in Milky Way galaxy and every single factions and their top dogs (from Emperor of Mankind, chaos gods, Gork & Mork, C'tan, Necron techs, Tyranids' Hivemind, etc) are stuck to that powerlevel, Warhammer 40K is not allowed to end too, so it's like cyclical warfare that runs in perpetuity so Games Workshop can sell more plastic toys from Nottingham to more 'whales', scalpers and hoarders
One thing that should also not be forgotten, like a comment on the original video shows, is logistics. In most comparisons, 40k moves ships and informations at a snails pace in comparison. Take Star Wars for example, it takes most starfighters that have hyperdrives 6 hours to travel from Coruscant to the Corporate Sector in the Outer Rim, and information basically travels instantly. In 40k t can take anywhere between 1-6 months, due to warp, just to travel from Ultramar to Earth. So any setting that has a form of ftl drive will dominate the information, logistics and hit and run tactics.
33:53 he did that and much more, Nagash, The Great Necromancer was a mage so powerful that vampires were made by another mage who was trying to replicate an elixer of immortality with some of his writings. Pancreas has avideo on him which I highly reccomend to you, i will not say much more since I do not want to spoil it, but just know that the stuff nagash does sometimes makes the SKAVEN! cooperate with other species.
Well yeah, there's a genre in chinese novels call xianxia where mortals who can devastates cities with a sneeze ascended to immortalhood within decades, immortal can then shatter stars with a glance, then they need to kill other immortals that have been around for millenia to ascend to godhood and can then create and destroy universes with a thought.
You just have to not question the physics and magic system to enjoy it.
Chinese novels go crazy man. I don't know much about them, but from what you described that sounds like a lot xD.
@@TheLegitWeebs Journey to the west which is one of the big 3 of classical Chinese literature and key insperation in Modren anime and xianxia has a demon monkey become immortal a half dozen times over storm heaven mostly for shits and giggles and stalemate the combined forces 2 Chinese religions worth of gods before he pees on the Bhudas hand and gets put in a time out for a few centuries in whats basically the prolog to the proper story.
dude, that's not even the top end of xianxia, when you get to omnipotent godhood akin to the abrahamic faith's god, you trancend the universe itself and start at lvl 1 of the next lvl of existance^^
For ppl wanting to read xianxia, but are completly new to the ganre, here are some of my top picks:
1) Warlock of the Magus World, it is xianxia, but with the skin of a european medieval fantasy skin, so it is realy easy to get familliar fast. Also, the MC is probably the best representation of d&d's true neutral alignment.
2) I Shal Seal The Heavens, This is almost classical xianxia, but with a more light humourus elements added in, ofc it stil has the deep feels that cut your gut, and the brutality the ganre is known for.
3) Cultivation Chat Group. This is probably the best parody on xianxia you can get, it is pure comedy genius. It folows the MC Shuhang, who is a normal mortal in the modern world china, so evrything a new reader can get confused by, or not know of, gets explained realy well, you follow the MC from normal modern life, through the hights of cultivation. CCG is also relativly low power scaling compared to most xianxia, so if you dont like the innsanity of the power scaling, know that the top end is only a bit abow omnipotence.
4) Rennegade Immortal. This is not for the fain of heart, this is a dark story, with a ruthless MC, a good read for the ones who like the more dark story. It is also technicaly set in the same universe as I Shal Seal The Heavens, just another dimension of the same collective work of the author.
5) Coiling Dragon. This is probably the most iconic of xianxia works there is, it is the baseline fans set other works up against most of the time. Tho personaly, I would rate it average of the ganre, but it's the white bread of it. A good read if you just want to jump in to the ganre, and are not against learning a LOT of terminology and in-ganre knowladge fast
@@gampie13 Thank you for the recommendations, I think I will be checking them out. 👍
@@vonfaustien3957I remember the oversimplified videos on it and journey to the west sounds like (to my fragmented, dodgy memory at least) it’s both a drama at some points, and also a very good comedy with the monkey king’s antics like how he scratched his name (and the name of other monkeys) out of the book of the dead AFTER barging in like the kool aid man
the fact that a kid with a watch can fuck up warhammer40k is hilarous to me
The Ben 10 lore is actually crazy
One thing I would add, he says BattleTech's FTL is slow, this isn't actually the case, BattleTech FTL speed is pretty damn fast, it's just extremely inefficient, it takes 6 minutes and 15 seconds to run down their batteries (which they can recharge with solar power) but in that time they're traveling 30 light years (that's 1 light year for every 12 and a half seconds of travel). They also can't exit FTL in a stars gravity and their sublight speed technology is relatively slow for most sci-fi. That said, if BattleTech has been in a state of technological stagnation for a long time and there hasn't been too much demand for a more efficient FTL drive yet, we also know during drive failures it's possible to get flung basically to the other side of the galaxy in a single jump leading me to believe it could be MUCH more efficient.
Just from thumbnail alone I _knew_ Xeelee would be covered. What an awesomely awful setting (despite never reading it proper)
This video made me want to give the books a try.
@@TheLegitWeebsGood luck. Because from what summaries I've read, it really makes 40K look _family-friendly_
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Still nothing on Blood Meridian. It was pretty bearable.
@kingsnakke6888 hive cities be looking kinda nice in comparison
@@kryvex4996Much nicer than Xeelee Sequence Earth or even any world rule by ICoG, heck even Mechanicus would horrified at Xeelee Mars society
Not only did he chokeslam two gods, they we’re the physical embodiments of the Force and the Dark Side, that’d be like if Magnus casually started pimp slapping Tzeentch around for shits and giggles.
Also a basic grineer troop is equivalent to a super marine in the Warframe universe.
I didn't know that actually. Is Warframe really that much more powerful?
@@TheLegitWeebs warframes have very casual space time manipulation as a normal power. Yeah, its nuts lol
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Warframes are basically suits of armor, controlled by a warrior cast called the Tenno. And powered by the void to do things like: Manipulate time & space, Crush things with the power of magnetism and etc. There are many different types, all with their own set of powers and they can be modded (along with their weapons) to make them even stronger. Can a Warframe take on a Space Marine? Most definitely. Can the Warframe universe as a whole take on WH40K? Let alone the entire Imperium? Fuck no... At best, the Imperium would probably hire the Tenno as mercenaries. It might be considered Heresy, but the Imps, especially the Inquisition are no strangers to using Heresy as a weapon.
Weapon that hits you so hard you die in multiple universes you say...
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I actually think Star Wars could handle modern 40K if we use Legends. Your average Jedi and Sith are on the level of or greater than most Astartes and the great masters like Mace Windu, Yoda, Dooku, Sidious, and Luke Skywalker could easily solo entire Astartes chapters because their attributes are just on another level. Mace Windu and anybody near his level or beyond can move at roughly light speed and their other physical abilities put them *far beyond* any Astartes. These kinds of people can probably solo Primarchs as well. The important thing to remember about regular 40K humans to Space Marines to Custodes to Primarchs is that each tier below the other can at least see what the one directly above them are doing. They just aren't fast enough to react to it. Humans can see Space Marines, which can see Custodes, which can see Primarchs.
Anakin (a man who could move many times the speed of sound at his fastest) could not even see Palpatine and Windu's duel when he reached the Chancellor's Office in the novel. The Sith Lord and the Pillar of Light were moving so goddamn fast that the only thing Anakin could see were the brief flashes of their lightsabers every five-to-ten seconds. That's pretty fucking fast. Also, Luke Skywalker telekinetically manipulated a black hole the size of the Millennium Falcon (making it more dense than the Earth). Also, Star Wars technology is beyond most 40K races. Cures for most known diseases, FTL technology thousands of years beyond everyone in the setting, plasma technology beyond 99% of 40K (except for maybe Necrons), and Jedi and Sith neg pretty much anything in the setting. Grandmaster Luke Skywalker would have trouble with the God-Emperor (if we're talking Horus Heresy), but if he had his Council with him then Big E is dying so fast his head would revolve fifty times before it hit the floor. And yes, Luke is not above jumping a motherfucker. He is the son of Darth "Motherfucking" Vader. He is not above under-handed tactics and psychological warfare. Point is, Legends Star Wars is actually able to fuck 40K right to hell. Hell, Chaos isn't even going to sway most of the high level Jedi or Sith. The Jedi because they care too much about others and have too much love for corruption to set in and the Sith because the top-tier Dark Lords are so goddamn egotistical they would say "I am my own master" and then dab on a Khorne Bloodthirster or what-have-you. There are universes that can beat Legends Star Wars (the Xeelee-verse among them easily). But 40K is not one of them.
at the far end of power scaling is hard sci-fi. Waiting like dreaming Eldritch God that could very well wake up and become very real.
Star Wars is pretty vast but a channel that I really like is Generation Tech, they make 10 minute videos covering a wide range of topics that you can watch in any order you like or just watch what interests you. From why the New Republic is horrible at their jobs, Droid Rights, How should the Mandos evolve as a culture so they don't get blasted to the Stone Age again, and more.
I mean I think anything with gods or godlike beings could be considered OP, because in the end it just turns into cartoon physics at that point - it's all entirely arbitrary.
I don't think 40k was designed to be super OP, barring 'rule of cool' stuff like Titans. The 41st millennium itself is more a story of civilisations way past their best, everything is decayed and crumbling, and most of the races have fallen from grace substantially. Even the Orks and Necrons are millions of years past their peak. And the Imperium is perpetually and inevitably failing, that's sort of the point of the 'grimdark'. Its bureaucracy and logistics are a hopeless mess and it's forgotten how to build most of its best tech. It also has an obvious weak spot - a single well-placed nuke on Earth and the Imperium is done.
Certainly. I think everything in 40k blends together well to create the grimdark fictional universe that it is. We have enough cool things to be amazed by, but nothing straight out of an anime like Simone believing in his manly self so much he just wins. 40k has enough to maintain the tone of the story.
frankly, comparedly with xianxia, 40k chaos gods are minor flunkies in comparasin when the power scaling get's half way^^
in xianxia, an omnipotend god of a world akin to the abrahamic god, is not even the last boss...
xianxia is the epitome of power scaling beyond absurdity
34:00 the high elves made the great vortex, thus ending the first grand chaos invasion on the world of warhammer fantasy, with the lizardmen retreating to Lustria the Elves started to spread out across the world, just like the dwarfs did on the mainland. Their mastery of the winds of magic and their way of using it would eventually be taught to the imperial wizards, (the book of choyer has a video on that).
I mean, I agree with the video overall, BUT if the question is CAN the Emperor defeat Goku, as he asked... well, the answer is technically yes.
Remember Goku did get killed by heart failure, and using his psyker powers to stop his uncles heart was the Emperor's first kill. So it isn't impossible for the Emperor to win, so he CAN win.
But if you mean in a first fight, well, no, the Emperor couldn't... however the question technically wasn't limited to that type of fighting. As at hos peak, Goku was capable of destroying the universe with his punches in Dragon Ball Super. Its from the fight at 20:00 anyways to simplify the situation Goku learned a new transformation and until Goku learned how to stop his excess Chi energy from leaking out in that form, he was ripping apart the universe (including the afterlife) and nearly destroyed it...
Dragon Ball goes crazy man. But I didn't know that the Emperor's first kill was his uncle. I should really do a deep dive into the Emperor's story.
@@TheLegitWeebs Yeah, his uncle killed his father (around 8,000 BC). The Emperor found out and killed him without anyone else ever being aware of it for millennia when the Emperor told others that's when he realized humanity needed to be guided and lead. The Emperor did it for many millennia while disguised as other's, like Alexander the Great.
It wasn't until after the robot Rebellion (Men of Iron), massive warp storms shutting down Galactic travel for millennia, Slaanesh being born, and then Earth nuking itself to oblivion that he directly revealed himself to the masses and not a small select few.
This is also the same goku that was taken out by a weak laser ring. honestly i think this would come down to is the emperor fast enough to do anything.
@@flameknightdragon I think that's a cool aspect of Dragonball. It kinda tells us that he's only invincible if he's ready for it. It's reactive defense instead of passive defense.
Battletech is a fun one to learn the lore on. Pancreas has a few videos if you're curious but don't want to dive in the main welcome videos of Tex Talks Battletech, the chill vibes of Mechanical Frog, or the tenured New Avalon lecture professor Sven Der Plank. It's also a neofeudal type sci fi, but a lot less over the top than 40k, even at BT's bugnuttiest.
It's definitely on the rise, and I fully admit to plugging it for sci fi lore reacters. Especially since it's way cheaper than 40k if you actually want to play on tabletop.
Will definitely be taking a look at some videos about Battletech. Always love discovering a new Sci-Fi universe.
Clone wars is definitely my favourite setting of star wars so i highly suggest you watch it at some point
for battletech id say your best bet at getting into it would be watching the black pants legion lore videos and playing the battletech game on steam, turn based robot stomping is all kinds of fun
Did you say turn based strategy game? Oh baby...
indeed i did, you own a mercenary company and take contracts to do jobs for the people in the inner sphere, all sorts of jobs from protecting an area to infiltrating bases, but this time with big stompy mechs that you kit out yourself, there is also a story thats quite fun
@@Nightmare_52 Putting that on the wishlist then. Thanks for the recommendation.
Sadly, The Clone Wars CGI cartoon have 4 bad seasons to slog through before it turns a corner, and an unnecessary 7th.
As for Battletech, In Tex We Trust. Black Pants Legion and Critical Rocket are your best sources for lore.
Yeah you can become the final Boss in Stellaris. But that’s not the most gangster shit. With the Gigastructural Engineering and Ancient Cache of Technology mods you can fight beings who consume galaxies just to gain their energy and have shields wich utilize several dimensions layered on top of each other with ships the size of stars. You can fight beings wich exist across every single universe and timeline. You can become such a being yourself. You can use the supermassive black hole at the center of the galaxy to build a death-star (except not a star but a big moving black hole that can destroy entire star-clusters).
Whats scary is that since the creation of the civilisation chart the Zeelee only qualify as a tier 6 civilisation.
Tbh, there is always one cop-out thing for Wh40k. "What if the nids eat an Ultramite though?" X)
If your willing to get into a BIG series you might like starwars vs 40k, great series
If you're interested in Star Wars lore, I would recommend Geetsly's. Their videos are ten to fifteen minutes long on average and cover history, vehicles, different species, all kinds of stuff. They also have so many of them that they've started compiling them into multiple one to two hour long videos.
Will do! Thanks for the recommendation!
I need a halo hammer video from pancreas no works reaction from here
If dune was considered to be almost impossible to adapt the xeelee sequence would be neigh unfathomable without revolutionary film making
I have no idea where to even begin with a Xeelee Sequence adaptation, just from the little that I've learned about it in this video xD.
If you decide to do any Star Wars lore stuff before you finish KotoR one and two, avoid the names Darth Revan, Darth Malak, Bastila Shan, Meetra Surik, Darth Nihilus, Darth Scion, and Darth Traya like the plague. Any lore involving those names will give you massive spoilers for one or both of those games.
On a powerscaling note, the movies do not do Force users justice, because they literally can't due to the limits of live-action filmmaking.
Just as a singular example, an ancient Dark Lord of the Sith, Naga Sadow, when aided by his unique Force power enhancing ship and meditation sphere, was capable of using the Force to telekinetically rip the cores out of stars to force them to go supernova.
Roger that! Thanks for the warning.
Once you finish Knights of the Old Republic 2, watch the philosophy of Kreia video (its about your characters very unique teacher in that game). The video is 2hours but has 8 million views, as Kreia is the best deconstruction of Star Wars ever.
Thank you for the recommendation! With such a positive response to a video as long as that I'm so curious to see what it's about, and very intrigued to meet this character in Kotor 2
Doom Guy would end up in Khorne's Arena, with Tuska Daemon-Killa, enlessly slaughtering enternally resurrecting Greater Daemons and Bloodthirsters. He would be the second character ever in 40K to get a happy ending, the other being Tuska.
I think the Emperor could beat Goku, but like 3/10. Emps has enough stats to hang with Goku long enough for his soul destroying moves to work, but other than that, I think Goku wins most of the time
it depends on which era of Goku your talking about. Super Goku or GT Goku, Emps is getting flattened with no real chance of victory. He might still have a chance against late DB Goku or Saiyan saga Goku, at a real stretch maybe early namek Saga.
I think 40k would pretty handily take OG Dragon Ball, but after the first saga or two of Z that goes the other way around
Even in OG DragonBall youve got a half dozen characters that can sterilize a planet or push the low end of outright destroying it. Roshi blew up the moon and he barely makes the top ten by the end of the martial arts tournament with Jr.
I mean none can breath in space so the imperium still could win with an exterminatis but any ground assult not led by Big E is going about as well as the red Ribbon army's try at wold conquest.
@vonfaustien3957 Throw enough ordinance at the problem and it will eventually stop being a problem, even if it's Kid Goku. The Red Ribbon Army were no Cadians.
Exterminatus-tier weapons would definitely do the trick. Maybe even a few psykers of the telepathic variety, since I don't think anyone in DB is capable of shrugging off mind control like Vegeta yet. And that's just from the Imperium side of 40k
Even Gundam out guns 99% of 40K. If you ignore the Nacrons very much nothing can defeat Gundam universe. Regardless of how many or big your ships they all going to be destroyed.
If Tau and Gundam solar system team up in a single decade would take over the Galaxy possibly even defeating the Nacrons after.
Orks and Tyerinds are nothing against them. Those would be easy to deal with.
oh it gets worst depending on which timeline. like 00 would 100% end with them winning. and lets be honest if you believe the word of god about what the unicorn can do it alone solos most of 40K.
@@flameknightdragon lecturely even Gundam Wing the goat can do it. I would even say Clamity War period from BIO would do it with difficulty. BIO the only one that wouldn't last that long against 40K.
There is a large series out called Star Wars vs 40k that I think you might get a kick out of.
17:35 HERESEY!
Personally I groove on both DC and Marvel in general. Both have tons of great heroes and villains with good and great supplemental adaptation materal. Both have also dropped the ball with notoriously bad comic stories, laughable attempts at cinema, and baffling business decisions. Still, they are the top of the food chain. IDW hasn't forced people to consider it a peer and change the term from Big 2 to Big 3. At least not yet.
I haven't heard a lot of great news from people actively reading comics, but good news doesn't go viral, and I choose to hope that the hard times will pass as the dark age of comics in the 90's passed. Though the zenith of superhero comics in terms of success relative to population... that may well be at an end. Even if digital readership picks back up, the days of selling millions of physical copies of even the best issues pretty safely seems dead.
Still, I have a hard time seeing the big superheroes fading away. Especially the DC Trinity. They've been around since the 1930's. It takes a lot to see such iconic characters with numerous classic stories and rare seniority fizzle out.
I have this idea about something i nicknamed the "rip Drive". which can alter fundamental physics without changing other fundamental properties. And when I thought about what you could do with this thing I ended up imagining something called void matter and using a rip Drive can be given any fundamental property you want. So you can make a void matter with the properties containing energy perfectly, with infinite inertia, Mass. Plus no respect for the flow of time rules of causality or three-dimensional principals. then make a person out of it.
PS I got more if you want to hear it
Sounds interesting. Go on please
@@electronicmayonnaise5692 well I should probably mention that when I imagine a rip Drive they can only make one field at a time. with an exception to particularly Advanced variants
Well to continue on the "make a person out of it" thing. The process of making somebody into void matter would start with giving the void matter the property to transmute normal matter into void matter. While copying the normal Mathers properties exactly. Give this person a rip Drive then this person should be able to extend their Consciousness across their body. So with continued use of the rip Drive they should be able to effectively become a sentient, reality bending, property changing, mass of programmable manner
If you're still interested next I can talk about Rippers (rippers being rip Drive guns), void armor, or just answer questions if you have any
I know it's just our fantasies and imagination but there are a lot of reasons in there that could be true, if we ever were to come into contact with any alien civilisation. They may not even perceive us or we may not be aware that we have already met.
As I said in the comments under the video itself Digimon and dr who would be on this list
Star wars: force is literally just the weave/chaos..serious they work the exact same way, except opposite. Everything exists inside chaos, The force flows through everything.
they are both tangible yet intangible, the only difference is that while less powerful the force does seem to be sentient and capable of making plans(no, the chaos god don't make the realm sentient)
the question shouldn't be this troop vs that troop, it should be how the relationship between the force and chaos would be.
if you want to learn intresting things in star wars i suggest going into legends and not cannon
if you want some intresting topics hyperspace madness and hyperspace mallfunctions , where humans came from and the unknown regions in general
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I think Star Wars probably deserves at bit more credit. They can blow up planets, although not as efficiently, and they do still retain a lot of knowledge on how their tech works, while 40k is kinda built on the ashes of something greater. I'd say they'd still lose, but it could probably be closer than what we might initially think.
do his halohammer series next
I used to think, my favorite sci fi setting is awfully weak. But after reading more into the tech side of it. I thought:"okay, fair enough"
I'm talking about the perry rhodan universe. Like after a certain story cycle, planet killers are just standard issue for even small ships
Yeah Anakin threw down with the living embodiments of the light and dark side of the force at the same time and won. He got mad and then he practically bitch-slapped them in their own arena. Then threatened The Father, who I think is just supposed to represent the whole force itself.
Some of the stuff counts, but most is questionable. I mean, most of the mentioned cant control time and space like mere necrons, like creating pocket universes, time anomalies, they are even capable of closing the warp. Our stealy necron lord would carry them in pokeballs. Power scale doesn't really matter if the very fabric of the universe betrays you.
Hey there if you want to get to know more about star wars i defenitly woud recommend you watching the clone wars series (its an animated series) it is awsome, if you like it you can also continue with the rebels and bad batch animated series. Most of the live action disney star wars TV shows are kinda mid tbh in my oppinion atleast, maybie mandalorian is worth a watch but the rest is optional and i only woud recomend it if you realy like star wars a lot. I don`t know if you want to react to TV shows on this channel but if not i woud recommend just watching clone wars in private.
Thanks for the suggestions!
Recommend highly that you go back and play Halo 1 and then 2, ODST, 3 and Reach.
Also stick with the Star Wars Expanded Universe material before the Disney Wars tripe (2008 Clone Wars doesn’t count as canon to me either since it screwed up again what was already fixed in prior material beforehand). I recommend the UA-camrs Manda-LORE and O.G. Star Wars, they both do good work explaining a lot of pre-Disney Star Wars lore and characters.
Xeno can erase the timeline, just causally, because he got annoyed. If he sees the hell thay the 40k universe is, he is just going to erase the full timeline because this is annoying. Yes even the Chaos gods are nuked.
There is a lot more. But Goku was confident enough that if he had a sensu bean, he would have killed Zamasu that fused into the timeline that is bleeding into the other timelines. Meaning that at that level if power, very few oeoyare abke to even harm or touch them.
the jedi are at their weakest in the curent time in starwars
star wars is closer to space fantasy
starwars v warhammer(ill use the empire vs imperium for ref)
star wars should be better in space by a considerable margine and hyperspace is way safer and most of the time faster than warp travel
on ground warhammer is generally better but where star wars has better production and actually innovates the empire has alot of shadow projects like the dark trooper project
curent disney cannon has confirmed they has aswell but they havnt shown the amount that legends has
and celestials where diffrent essentially a race of gods with more advanced tech for a ref for some things they did was make the corellia system and The Maw Cluster or simply The Maw was an unstable and mostly unnavigable cluster of black holes located near the planet Kessel.
An Empire of Ben 10's led by an Dictator Ben 10 using Alien X would be pretty powerful and could go against most Fictional empire's like the Saiyans, Warhammer and Viltrumites 😂😂😂
I dont think doom guy can do anything there are no agrant energi in 40k
The show way better then the movied
HERESY 😂
ICOG: allow us to torture you across timelines and multiverse
TBH, the only winner I don't agree with is the Viltrum Empire.
They couldn't kill off ALL of 40k. I think if the Necrons released the C'tan in a suicide effort, then the C'tan win.
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While The viltrumites are powerfull as fuck, same with superman, I think Pancreas underestimates chaos a bit. my only contention
Definitely becomes a little difficult to determine given the nature of Chaos.
counterpoint: Chaos is often severely wanked and overestimated by 40k fans, and often pulled out as some kind of I win button. This is especially an issue given that due to obvious copyright reason, the warp just doesn't exist in other fictional settings, thus beings from other settings aren't going to have a connection to the warp.
@@ryuukeisscifiproductions1818 Yeah, I like Chaos Undivided myself, but in Fantasy and Age of Sigmar, the Chaos Gods are not invincible. They've been shown to be vulnerable to other gods, and in the case of Slaanesh, were outright beaten and imprisoned. I know 40k is generally more "OP" than the Fantasy Warhammer settings, but just with a bit of extrapolation, any god or god-like being could just outright kill the 40k Chaos Gods, and I'd say the viltrumites and especially superman would be in that category, ignoring the fact that superman isn't even the strongest entity in the DC canon.
Who is removing comments? The guy wanted to learn Battletech.
Black Pants Legion for Battletech.
Idk about removing comments, but YT auto removes comments that have a link in them to prevent scam links if that's what's been going on.
just a heads up the guy who made the video you are reacting absolutely hates Warhammer due to it overshadowing Halo
Halo is a lot more popular than Warhammer lol, PancreasNoWork in general just likes 40k less than a lot of other settings.
He's your anti-Imperium/Chaos guy, so basically just Xenos. He's far more of a Fantasy dude, but hey, preferences are preferences. I wouldn't apologise for liking sci-fi settings more than fantasy ones, and I wouldn't expect anyone else to for their own favourite thing either.
that said it's kinda grating when he presents the very same behaviour some die-hard fans adopt for 40k. Yeah we get it you like Fantasy, you don't have to put down 40k to have it be "better".