You can currently get a Powerstack for $63 or w/ charger for $85 for some reason: amzn.to/43odkCD, amzn.to/3pL0Ki1 6Ah XR: amzn.to/3Wgntyw, 5Ah Powerstack: amzn.to/41Ka5nK DCF961 big guy: amzn.to/3Gva9PR DCF923 (3/8" size of DCF921): amzn.to/3Ilx5Cm DCF891 Mid TQ: amzn.to/3BVPiDj DCf901 Compact: amzn.to/42LQ9SI DCF900 High TQ: amzn.to/3o3Nrcd DCF850 Driver: amzn.to/3WbqtMQ
@@Juan188812 Too many ok tools leaves too much room for smaller brands to combine the niche tools. People rather have one tool that does the work of two, and better, in the smaller of the two’s size. Flex (small mid torque) will take Milwaukee mid torque customers. Hercules Ultra torque (1/2 with bolt loosening potential of 3/4) will take many 1/2 inch high torque customers. That’s why Dewalt is making a new high torque I think because it saw how much benefit it’s DCF900 made. Meanwhile Milwaukee I guess is panicking with it’s shareholders while they try releasing more useless niche tools, that most people don’t care for because they rather save space, or money, or both. It’s the reason Dewalt atomic compact 1/2 is successful because it’s better than the Milwaukee 1/2, and who wants an extra set of 3/8 sockets when they can use 1/2 for both high torque and compact. Maybe Milwaukee releases a new long delayed high torque with the new batteries soon. People don’t want to buy Milwaukee at this time I think. It’s a transition into Dewalt, and smaller companies. Milwaukee is lacking the big evolution jump rates of it’s products that other companies are doing. The new drills, and impact drivers for example are barely any improvement.
Really like this single brand comparison style, especially for a brand that, like you said, doesn't really... have models names that make sense and don't make it obvious when you're holding an entirely new generation of tool
There is a legitimate logic to a test like this. Often times once a user buys into a brand, they stay in it because buying several brands for their set of tools makes little sense. It's cheaper and handier to say with one make and one voltage. That said, if a Dewalt user is contemplating buying an impact, this lets them know what to expect for what they would pay for a given model. This also means the channel will need to do one of these for every different brand. And I hope they do.
@@Charliemmafanit makes sense, the high number is how stuck the bolt can be, the low number is regular working torque, or how close it can get to a particular torque number reliably.
Im glad that dewalt is coming back to what it was, grew up on dewalt bevause of my grandpa but moved to Milwaukee. Started investing in dewalt a cpuple months ago, love their 12v impact driver.
Love this. I don't run any DeWalt right now but I know how my tools compare to DeWalt and now I can see where each one fits. Maybe there is some team yellow in my future. Anyway, there is an old saying by somebody smart. My parents used to tell me this. "It is only by comparing ourselves generally to a great many people, and selectively to a few, that we begin to determine who we are" and that is exactly what we need with tools. Thanks for the work you do!
Thank you! This is exactly the video I needed, I was going insane trying to figure out the model numbers I needed for different tasks. Hope to see more of these in the future
I purchased the DCF 961 after having numerous problems when restoring my 2003 Volvo S60... users should be aware that it's quite capable of shearing Factory-fitted Lug Nuts alongside every other seized Nut! It's an absolute beast that requires a lot of thought before you unleash it!
@@sofielee4122 I still see the older 1/2" 3 spd brushed impact in some home depots and Direct Tools outlets, then you have the newer brushed impact from last black friday which I bought from Amazon a month ago, the new One HP compact, the P262 mid torque and the mighty One HP high torque. All those are 1/2" anvil. Not too shabby
I have the dcf911 and the dcf891. Both are amazing tools, and I can't imagine needing any more power than the 891. I only bought the 911 for the smaller size.
Nice! For someone new to impact drivers/wrenches and looking at the DeWalt line for many weeks, this finally helps clarify which ones to get for the purpose intended. Very helpful indeed. Thanks a lot for making this kind of video.
Used my DCF899 to take the crank pulley bolt out of a BMW diesel yesterday. The BMW pulley bolts are infamous for being awkward, the DCF899 using a 22mm Ingersoll weighted socket didn't even blink it came off so fast I thought I had picked too big a socket impressed 👍
Great video! Dewalt is all I use for impacts, and I agree with your battery recommendations. The 923/921 with the 1.7 Powerstack is an awesome combination. One of my favourite tools.
A year ago I went from 18v to 20v and replaced all my Dewalt cordless tools except the big impact wrench. The Dewalt website is horrible when trying to choose and have been holding off. Thanks to your great comparision I can fianally make a decent choice. Just ordered the DCF900. Thank you so much..
Bro I needed that storm bringer. I used my DCF921 stubby for the rusted bulged upper control arm like you mentioned and none doing. So I breaker barred it with pipe cheat now all the nut thread is eaten up. Time to hit the angle grinder and welding in a new receiver nut. Wish me luck. 😂
Ive had an 899 for a few years and i rarely found a bolt it wouldnt undo, recently bought an 891 to replace it, same power with far less heft. Love it, I can only imagine how many bolts id snap with the 900 and above
Absolutely love my DCF900. It managed to shear a wheel bolt off a sprinter, where the milwaukee and snap on impacts couldnt even get a mm of movement. We resorted to a 1 metre breaker bar, with another metre worth of pipe to get all them off
Recently bought a DCF921 after watching your tests. Changed from summer to winter wheels/tires on our two 2007 Corollas. It pulled aftermarket spline nuts fine from alloy wheels on one car. Toyota alloy wheels on the other car defeated the DCF921 at least half the time; those lugs were torqued to 76 ft. lbs. last spring. I didn’t even consider the battery tool on my truck with 120 ft. lbs. Full disclosure: battery was showing two of three bars. For now, this tool does NOT replace my 1/2” air impact.
Agree, I just purchased the 921 "Atomic" and it is pathetic! Maybe it can remove a 140 ft lb lug nut if it's threads are lubricated!! Very disappointed
@@calvintran8691 It works, but don’t believe some of the torque claim. I robably should have bought the 923 and stick with 3/8” drive tasks. I’ll still be using my 1/2” air wrench for changing tires.
Fantastic video as always! Based on your earlier videos I bought both the DCF892B and did a full suspension front end rebuild with no issues at all, it makes life way easier with a light weight impact working under a car. I also ended up getting the DCF923B I take on road trips so I don't have to feel like poo in case of having to change tires in winter or summer. I mostly have M12 tools but for impacts I went with Dewalt and they are excellent tools for sure and it's good to see they are made here in the country!
Fantastic timing. I just am accepting that my Atomic doesn't pull off 90% of lugnuts and have been trying to navigate what I want to buy as a step up. You just made my shopping easy. 😁
@@flatheadvorhees agreed, I owned the 911 and 921 and both could do my trucks' lugnuts. The DCF911 struggled a bit though, around 5-6 seconds with the 4Ah slim battery
Don't get me wrong, my 911 has been amazing. I've just been dealing with a lot of nasty stuff tightened by idiots. With the 891 the same price, getting a 921 doesn't make much sense since my 911 will do almost everything the 921 will do.
A well presented video with a nice chart. I purchased the dcf921 and dcf891 after watching your videos a few months back, got them in a good deal and they suit my needs for a bit of tlc on my car. Keep up the good work!
Hi. About 10y ago I decided to move to battery tools and chose team yellow over red or blue and I’m not disappointed. The other colours have their great features and I have some red handtools (lovely) and blue corded ones (fab). I have the following. My DCF885 (small), is the 90% go to and a very capable and controllable driver for screws and smaller other fasteners. Next the DCF880, a 9% go to, but only a little more capable. It’s sometimes very useful as a fairly short 1/2”. Finally the DCF899, a 1% go to but I’ve not found many occasions where it fails. Occasionally it’s been crucial but the same can be said for long box-end spanners and breaker bars. Also, penetrating fluid and a high-frequency induction coil-heater can be far more useful as big drivers can break fasteners as soon as look at them. Cheers!
Powerstack XR Battery's Just started showing up lowes doing major deals on all the orginal powerstack batteries i got 120 plus dollars batteries for less then 60 bucks per battery to make room in stores for the new Powerstack XR
I went over with the Ryobi a few years ago as they were growing and would get the jobs done most of the time but I needed something more powerful and reliable. I looked at Milwaukee and DeWalt at the same time and Milwaukee was the one many were talking about 3 years ago. But I'm happy I went with DeWalt. They are known for reliable tools but the upgrades DeWalt is making these last 2 or 3 years have been huge upgrades. I'm so happy with DeWalt and they have upgraded and still upgrading non stop for the last 3 years. I just went to go throw another 1000 bucks on their stuff thanks to the November specials. Couldn't be happier. They out perform most including Milwaukee at a good price range.
I have every single one of these dewalt tools but the beta that isn't out yet my most used by far is the Atomics for every day Shop work with customer vehicles 80 percent can be done with the atomics other 20 percent is for the big boy high torques @Torque Test Channel
This style of comparison it the goods!! If you could do this for everything that would be epic. (I realize time consuming for you guys). However perfectly timed for me, because DeWalt is having a "tax time" sale here currently in Australia. So i am personally looking for my 1st Dewalt wrench setup. Thank you so much guys, this makes it super dang easy to make decisions. Also the timing is uncanny. Must mean i was destined to be team yellow after all.
I bought a DCF900 a few weeks ago. Easily takes off rusted VW axle nuts. Though, the one it couldnt take off, neither could my co-workers 3/4" mac air gun. even with heat it took him maybe 20 minutes to remove it, he had to heat it up so much.
Dewalt 892 worked good on my very over-tightened lug nuts on a couple of cars and trailer, and also the big 33mm nut securing my tow ball, which was somewhat rusted on after 20 years.
I work for a good sized company that uses nothing but dewalt. Sucks cause I've always bled red. But no matter what floats your boat, dewalt is not slackin anymore. Glad to see all the competition!
Actually the perfect application to 1/4 impact drill/drivers is in carpentry and in particular rough carpentry. Without question there is not comparison to that of an ordinary drill/drivers. My favorite for this application is the Dewalt XR Impact Driver, Brushless, 1/4", 3-Speed (DCF845B). It is very compact enabling it to squeeze into tight spaces like studs that would be impossible with ordinary impact drivers and even the smaller width the Dewalt "Atomic" variation. The three speeds enable a lot of flexibility. I also found that 1/4 impact drivers + screws with the more expensive Torx type heads (common in exterior applications) make the job so easy but the problem is that common Phillips head screw heads dominate for interior applications which require a lot more pressure to drive into place. For automotive use, I would not even think of using a 1/4 IN impact driver but rather I would use a 3/8 IN or a 1/2 IN impact drivers. I am not a mechanic, but if I were, it would not bother me to spend the extra money on the 900 or 961 considering that on Amazon are not that significantly higher in price than the mid-range cost of Dewalt models. Solves a lot of headaches.
I run most of those guns daily at our shop in the rust belt. They're downright impressive; esp the dcf900. I've invested into Dewalt and have no regrets. I have firsthandedly smoked the red brand with mine. What's not a win about that?
thank you for your video. i use dewalt and have used them for the last 25yrs. i didnt want to change to milwaukee because i dont want a bunch of different batteries. i like using one battery system so i've always used dewalt. i've always got good longevity from my dewalts. im glad to see that they have some heavy weights out there. i use air because i already had my setup before i knew that anyone could build cordless that would be even remotely comparable. otherwise all of my tools would be cordless dewalt. i have been thinking about getting a dewalt cordless for the times when my carb on my generator is plugged up. thank you so much for helping me figure out which would be best for beside the highway use. also, seeing the difference in torque with the battery comparison was very helpful as well. again, thank you for all that you do.
Was changing the timing belt on an Acura TL and learned about the dreaded Honda crank bolts. Used a DCF921 and a 19mm impact hoping it'd workout. It didn't budge. Ended up getting a DCF900 and the weighted Lisle 19mm. Not even 1 second into pulling the trigger and it just broke free and came loose, it worked even better than I'd have hoped probably overkill even 😂
I just found this channel a week or so ago.. this was the most helpful video i’ve seen yet. It also kept my attention better.. thanks for the content.. i bought a gen 2 freak the other day as a result of info from this channel (kit on sale $50)
Great presentation! I was confused on what all the models were. Definitely going with one of the compact models as my work is installing office furniture i dont need high torque and the size is a plus for carrying around with me all day.
Great video. I modded my 850 with a 3/8 anvil and have an 891 as well, I work on a lot of work trucks and heavy equipment and it is *extremely* rare that I need more beans. 900 is next, I don't think I can justify the weight increase of the 961 for such a small increase over the 900.
@gbeving3167 I made a short video on my channel and put the anvil I used in the description somewhere. I use that thing more than any tool I own daily now and is hasn't had a single issue.
I love my 891, not much it can't do and it's light in the hand. Totally recommend getting one if you work on cars and aren't a snapon or milwaukee loyalist.
Despite the majority of my hand tools being Snap-On and my cordless power tools being Milwaukee, I’m not a loyalist to either. However, what I am is someone who hates multiple battery platforms and in my tool box right now I have 5. That’s come down from a peak of 8. Right as I finished replacing all my old worn out Matco, Snap-On, and Ingersoll cordless tools with Milwaukee, Dewalt started releasing their new lineup. Damnit! I neither need nor want another battery platform and my history with Dewalt tools is not good, but man they sure are pumping out some enticing stuff. Ugh first world problems.
I bought a DCF900 yesterday, wanted the 891 but for a bit more money I got another battery and charger. The 900 does a great job ripping the leaf spring bolts out of an old Samurai, but I destroyed one socket that got stuck between the immovable object and the unstoppable force.
Hmmm I think I want a DeWalt impact wrench... but I wonder if a driver would do for my home use. I wonder how much research I'll have to do to figure what I should buy... and is a driver good enough on its own for my applications? Torque Test Channel enters the chat. Here's a video that literally shows everything you want to know in one place. I also figured you'd want to compare what happens with different batteries, I know you didn't ask, but it's probably important. You have amazing and useful content! Also, great job on the entertainment factor.
The 1/4" drivers are basically meant for woodworking/wall installs/etc, rather than machinery work. My 850 is a fantastic companion to the XR compact hammer drill it came with as a set.
2 years ago milwaukee was a good buy but now i kind of wish I'd held out for dewalt for the simple reason most mechanics don't have them and wont ask to borrow charger/battery
Nah give it a year or so and dewank and theft deterrent teal will be back in their rightful place at the bottom of the pile. The other 2 are just playing catch-up as usual.
And in the meantime you'll be the one failing to bust some frozen fastener. Just last week my dcf900 removed a Audi axle bolt that a new red 2767 with a 'high output' couldn't. What's not to like about that?
The 923 has the 3/8" anvil and I feel will bust a lot of sockets with it. Went 921 and found some 1/2" Nano Sockets which make a bit more accessible to tight spots.
I got my DCF891 with 5Ah battery not long ago . Had a short extender on and it did not losen any of my wheel bolts on a audi b6 avant. I know I regally over tight wheel bolts. And then it struck me remove the short extender and try. I had seen the video where a extender or swivel reduce the nm significant, so removed the extender and all the bolts came lose so impressing fast and easy . But it difficult to quite understand that a extender that was only 6cm long did not remove one bolt event after tryning for over one minute on two different bolts.
Wow! You guys are heros, and I'm glad to see Dewalt pushing hard to be competitive, for slightly cheaper than Milwaukee? Amazing tools here. Just wish they would clean up their naming conventions, lol.
Hardest bolt I ever removed was the steering box nut holding the pitman arm. Getting it off was even harder with a 2 ton pulley cranked as much as I could with with 24" breaker bar and 3' iron pipe then even had to heat it before it sounded like a gunshot went off when it finally popped off. I eventually decided to get some power tools because don't want to deal with that bs anymore.
Bought the 900 because of your video. I didn't use the affiliate link because I refuse to buy from amazon but I did throw a like and subscribe your way. If there is another way to support your efforts let me know. Thank you!
Nice video. I'm a fan of DeWalt tools and am also looking for another 1/4" impact driver. Thanks for this. What would be nice if you could format all this info into a spec sheet of some kind that people could print out for comparison.
Can you test corded electric 1/2" impact drivers at some point? cheap to professional . I just don't have enough air for a pneumatic one, the cordless are spendy. I have porter cable and is does fine. Less than $80 on the jungle store). I do have an invert in my truck, so it is handy to remove lug nuts for flats and such.
great video, i’ve been curious how they compare to the milwaukee video scale so it was nice to see this. although i really appreciated when you compared other competitors, like the dewalt and milwaukee mid torque or the m12 and 12v dewalt. still good nonetheless.
Id like to see 1/4” drive impact wrenches compared too, i know not every company makes them, but they come in handy sometimes sometimes a 3/8 socket is a little too thick to get in certain places, holes, and around sockets that are in weird places, or up against something thats in the way. I wish all the companies would make a 1/4” impact wrench.
Iv hade most of these impact drivers in the last ten years and I have had very good luck with them dropping on concrete many times and the ony problem iv had was the ball and spring chucks would malfunction dropping the bit out but it was an easy fix.
Today I purchased the DCF891 with 5a Powerstack battery to go with my Hercules impact driver and Hercules 1/2 High Torque impact wrench. The Mid Torque from Hercules is pretty anemic so I was looking for something on the smaller side with decent power. The DCF891 is most definitely strong and anyone considering should try it out. I am keeping the HF High Torque but I see myself getting a lot of use from the 891 because of its convenient size
Thanks I hace really been enjoying your content. I dont have applications that push my m12 fuel surge driver that I need to pull out my 1st gen. m18 fuel, so watching a comparison of all of these massive torque yellow tools is purely esoteric and: your great video.
This is the best review (that I have seen) of DeWalt cordless impact wrenches. You did a quantitative comparison test and show the data. The chart of which kind of fasteners require what amount of torque is very helpful. Could you summarize your data in a table at the end of the video?
I would like to say that in Arkansas and I figure most of the south that I find that the m12 impact wrench and so the dewalts in the same category will do like 85% of everything on a car. Even axel nuts on a car. It may not do bigger trucks but for cars and small trucks I have done most everything with my stubby.
Damn I wish we didn't have salt here. I'm more into early 2000s trucks but they are all rotted tf here. I have an 04 now that I got cheap low mileage with no rust but that will probably never happen again. Guy was from west coast and the engine blew so I bought it for $800.
The battery comparison part had me thinking that if you could come up with a way to monitor amps usage and voltage drop at the battery while running tests would be a good addition of information to have. Some sort of interface between the batter and tool that wouldnt bottleneck....
I want the 961 and will run it with 5 Amp Power Stack will even put ADAPTER on it and run my FLEX STACKED lithium I have found that running 18 volt tools with 24 volt battery they run FASTER
This video was informative thanks I currently have a Dewalt DCF 787N-XJ that wasn’t in this video, I don’t really know what the suffix characters mean however it’s mostly been good enough for me but it’s not strong enough to remove things such as wheelnuts etc so I am planning on upgrading to the DCF921/922 as they state 600nm of breakaway and it’s a nice compact size to get in tighter areas
Debating between getting the DCF891 or the DCF921… I’d mainly use it for removing lug nuts with the occasional suspension work. Obviously the size is the concern. In an engine bay the smaller one would be much more useable for sure but obviously not as powerful.
I have both of the sub compact guns,the impact driver and the impact wrench.The small size and enormous power make these impacts the best on the market in my opinion.Thats DCF850 and DCF 921.Those two along with a high torque and you have everything you will ever need as a DIY guy.And sorry Milwaukee but IMO Dewalt is king when it comes to impacts.Dont be a fool and buy that 12v milwaukee stubby,buy the 921.
It's great to compare the data like this and give some perspective to the total line. As for the options, I have no interest or use for a 1/2" impact more powerful than the DCF900 as it's already a socket eater. Additionally, if I need that level of torque (850ft+ on your measure) I'm reaching for a 3/4" option. My favorite? The DCF891 all day. The size, weight, handle ergos and performance are perfect-which is why I purchased one. I team that with an Milwaukee M12 stubby 3/8".
Gotta say, still love my DCF923...I keep getting tempted to upgrade my 894 and 899, but I hardly use the high torque, so maybe just an 891 in my future. Great test though :)
Super happy with my 891. Got the 5ah powerstack with it and rarely switch it out of "2nd" gear - lasts all day in that mode and can always be turned to full beans and act like the old high torque.
@@Mis73rRand0m yeah, I imagine the 891 would be plenty for 99% of my higher torque needs. I also have an IR2135TiMax if I really need the beans, I don't like the high torque as it's just way too bulky.
my dcf923 takes alot of abuse and surprisingly a lot of suspension bolts too, axle nuts on a rusted 2004 silverado were no problem and i live in canada so everything is very rusted. But needless to say it has surprised me and fuck it if it takes them off I'm using it no need to haul around a big impact
You can currently get a Powerstack for $63 or w/ charger for $85 for some reason: amzn.to/43odkCD, amzn.to/3pL0Ki1
6Ah XR: amzn.to/3Wgntyw, 5Ah Powerstack: amzn.to/41Ka5nK
DCF961 big guy: amzn.to/3Gva9PR
DCF923 (3/8" size of DCF921): amzn.to/3Ilx5Cm
DCF891 Mid TQ: amzn.to/3BVPiDj
DCf901 Compact: amzn.to/42LQ9SI
DCF900 High TQ: amzn.to/3o3Nrcd
DCF850 Driver: amzn.to/3WbqtMQ
New Flex mid torque review soon?
@@nickduplaga507 I asked that not too long ago he said he’s just waiting for them to ship to him they have gotten delayed
Can we have this kinda of line up for all the major brands? I know some brands are sparse.
@@Juan188812 That's our plan to eventually do as time allows and brands introduce more
@@Juan188812 Too many ok tools leaves too much room for smaller brands to combine the niche tools. People rather have one tool that does the work of two, and better, in the smaller of the two’s size.
Flex (small mid torque) will take Milwaukee mid torque customers.
Hercules Ultra torque (1/2 with bolt loosening potential of 3/4) will take many 1/2 inch high torque customers. That’s why Dewalt is making a new high torque I think because it saw how much benefit it’s DCF900 made. Meanwhile Milwaukee I guess is panicking with it’s shareholders while they try releasing more useless niche tools, that most people don’t care for because they rather save space, or money, or both.
It’s the reason Dewalt atomic compact 1/2 is successful because it’s better than the Milwaukee 1/2, and who wants an extra set of 3/8 sockets when they can use 1/2 for both high torque and compact.
Maybe Milwaukee releases a new long delayed high torque with the new batteries soon. People don’t want to buy Milwaukee at this time I think. It’s a transition into Dewalt, and smaller companies. Milwaukee is lacking the big evolution jump rates of it’s products that other companies are doing. The new drills, and impact drivers for example are barely any improvement.
Really like this single brand comparison style, especially for a brand that, like you said, doesn't really... have models names that make sense and don't make it obvious when you're holding an entirely new generation of tool
He's doing better marketing for Dewalt than Dewalt themselves lol
The number at the end should literally be the amount of torque that it gives on average and then that would actually make sense to people!
There is a legitimate logic to a test like this. Often times once a user buys into a brand, they stay in it because buying several brands for their set of tools makes little sense. It's cheaper and handier to say with one make and one voltage. That said, if a Dewalt user is contemplating buying an impact, this lets them know what to expect for what they would pay for a given model.
This also means the channel will need to do one of these for every different brand. And I hope they do.
@@Charliemmafanit makes sense, the high number is how stuck the bolt can be, the low number is regular working torque, or how close it can get to a particular torque number reliably.
@@bustingnutsATXReally??
The best impact is the one you make on someone else's life, like this channel.
Corny but very good 😊
Lol
Deep revelations
How's this going to help me take off my bumper
How DeWalt doesn't have this sort of comparison with charts is mind boggling. Came here, thank you.
I started buying into Dewalt around 2015 and can’t be happier with DEWALT’s current Impact offerings, they’re freakin beastly 💪🏽🇺🇸
Because of this channel the DCF891 has been my absolute go to and everyday driver. I use it with the 1.7ah powerstack and I just love it.
I bought both my 850 and 891 after watching your earlier reviews. Love them. Thank you for all these great vids!
Picked up a 891 after watching your video. Thing is crazy! Made light work of rusted suspension bolts on my EVO X.
Of course the guy who buys trash cars buys trash tools
@@russia4biden221says the man with “russia for Biden” as a username💀
@@russia4biden221your username proves you’re a fucking trash person
@@russia4biden221you’re so gay
@@russia4biden221you buy makita and snap off calm down
Loved the graph showing what impact can undo 90 % of the time - their new impacts are brilliant 👍
Im glad that dewalt is coming back to what it was, grew up on dewalt bevause of my grandpa but moved to Milwaukee. Started investing in dewalt a cpuple months ago, love their 12v impact driver.
Love this. I don't run any DeWalt right now but I know how my tools compare to DeWalt and now I can see where each one fits. Maybe there is some team yellow in my future. Anyway, there is an old saying by somebody smart. My parents used to tell me this. "It is only by comparing ourselves generally to a great many people, and selectively to a few, that we begin to determine who we are" and that is exactly what we need with tools. Thanks for the work you do!
Thank you! This is exactly the video I needed, I was going insane trying to figure out the model numbers I needed for different tasks. Hope to see more of these in the future
Thanks to your vid, just got myself the DCF891 today and man, that thing is amazing for its size! Have already used it and cannot complain at all!
I purchased the DCF 961 after having numerous problems when restoring my 2003 Volvo S60... users should be aware that it's quite capable of shearing Factory-fitted Lug Nuts alongside every other seized Nut! It's an absolute beast that requires a lot of thought before you unleash it!
I know they're a bit less common but, I'd love to see something like this for Ryobi's lineup as that's what I have all the batteries for
That's like 3 tools tho.
@@TorqueTestChannel yeah you right, I forgot how... Sparse their line is lol
@@sofielee4122 I still see the older 1/2" 3 spd brushed impact in some home depots and Direct Tools outlets, then you have the newer brushed impact from last black friday which I bought from Amazon a month ago, the new One HP compact, the P262 mid torque and the mighty One HP high torque. All those are 1/2" anvil. Not too shabby
@eng_alv9022 I suppose we could throw in a driver and thier 3/8" as well. If/when they come out with a new impact we could take a swing at it
@@TorqueTestChannel I'll also put in my vote for a Ryobi video... This is a REALLY handy lookup for what tool is "best" for each brand!
I have the dcf911 and the dcf891. Both are amazing tools, and I can't imagine needing any more power than the 891. I only bought the 911 for the smaller size.
Nice! For someone new to impact drivers/wrenches and looking at the DeWalt line for many weeks, this finally helps clarify which ones to get for the purpose intended. Very helpful indeed. Thanks a lot for making this kind of video.
Which one did you get
@@kevinroark5815 None yet. And they just released the new DCF-860.
Used my DCF899 to take the crank pulley bolt out of a BMW diesel yesterday. The BMW pulley bolts are infamous for being awkward, the DCF899 using a 22mm Ingersoll weighted socket didn't even blink it came off so fast I thought I had picked too big a socket impressed 👍
this graph format is the best ever
Great video! Dewalt is all I use for impacts, and I agree with your battery recommendations. The 923/921 with the 1.7 Powerstack is an awesome combination. One of my favourite tools.
A year ago I went from 18v to 20v and replaced all my Dewalt cordless tools except the big impact wrench. The Dewalt website is horrible when trying to choose and have been holding off. Thanks to your great comparision I can fianally make a decent choice. Just ordered the DCF900. Thank you so much..
Bro I needed that storm bringer. I used my DCF921 stubby for the rusted bulged upper control arm like you mentioned and none doing. So I breaker barred it with pipe cheat now all the nut thread is eaten up. Time to hit the angle grinder and welding in a new receiver nut. Wish me luck. 😂
Ive had an 899 for a few years and i rarely found a bolt it wouldnt undo, recently bought an 891 to replace it, same power with far less heft. Love it, I can only imagine how many bolts id snap with the 900 and above
I use the slim low profile 4ah battery with 21000 cells & it seems to work really well
Absolutely love my DCF900. It managed to shear a wheel bolt off a sprinter, where the milwaukee and snap on impacts couldnt even get a mm of movement. We resorted to a 1 metre breaker bar, with another metre worth of pipe to get all them off
Recently bought a DCF921 after watching your tests. Changed from summer to winter wheels/tires on our two 2007 Corollas. It pulled aftermarket spline nuts fine from alloy wheels on one car. Toyota alloy wheels on the other car defeated the DCF921 at least half the time; those lugs were torqued to 76 ft. lbs. last spring. I didn’t even consider the battery tool on my truck with 120 ft. lbs. Full disclosure: battery was showing two of three bars. For now, this tool does NOT replace my 1/2” air impact.
Agree, I just purchased the 921 "Atomic" and it is pathetic! Maybe it can remove a 140 ft lb lug nut if it's threads are lubricated!! Very disappointed
@@bz2lrw Agreed. It does not replace a decent 1/2” air wrench. Not even close.
so you don't recommend the 921 at all?
@@calvintran8691 It works, but don’t believe some of the torque claim. I robably should have bought the 923 and stick with 3/8” drive tasks. I’ll still be using my 1/2” air wrench for changing tires.
@ thx i bought the 891
Fantastic video as always! Based on your earlier videos I bought both the DCF892B and did a full suspension front end rebuild with no issues at all, it makes life way easier with a light weight impact working under a car. I also ended up getting the DCF923B I take on road trips so I don't have to feel like poo in case of having to change tires in winter or summer. I mostly have M12 tools but for impacts I went with Dewalt and they are excellent tools for sure and it's good to see they are made here in the country!
Fantastic timing. I just am accepting that my Atomic doesn't pull off 90% of lugnuts and have been trying to navigate what I want to buy as a step up. You just made my shopping easy. 😁
DCF891!
I'm running the 921 and it's ripped lug nuts off of everything I've put in front of it so far, including my f350.
@@flatheadvorhees agreed, I owned the 911 and 921 and both could do my trucks' lugnuts. The DCF911 struggled a bit though, around 5-6 seconds with the 4Ah slim battery
@Derrik Weyrauch yes sir I have the 921 as well, so compact but powerful
Don't get me wrong, my 911 has been amazing. I've just been dealing with a lot of nasty stuff tightened by idiots. With the 891 the same price, getting a 921 doesn't make much sense since my 911 will do almost everything the 921 will do.
I have a dcf921, it's never failed me and has secured my loyalty for dewalt.
A well presented video with a nice chart. I purchased the dcf921 and dcf891 after watching your videos a few months back, got them in a good deal and they suit my needs for a bit of tlc on my car.
Keep up the good work!
Same. I tried to use the 891 in a tight space and it was difficult. I have the 921 ordered. Probably should have started with the 921.
Which one do you find using more? I can only get one at the moment and am debating between those two
@@Pickle312 me too, same debat
Hi. About 10y ago I decided to move to battery tools and chose team yellow over red or blue and I’m not disappointed. The other colours have their great features and I have some red handtools (lovely) and blue corded ones (fab). I have the following. My DCF885 (small), is the 90% go to and a very capable and controllable driver for screws and smaller other fasteners. Next the DCF880, a 9% go to, but only a little more capable. It’s sometimes very useful as a fairly short 1/2”. Finally the DCF899, a 1% go to but I’ve not found many occasions where it fails. Occasionally it’s been crucial but the same can be said for long box-end spanners and breaker bars. Also, penetrating fluid and a high-frequency induction coil-heater can be far more useful as big drivers can break fasteners as soon as look at them. Cheers!
Powerstack XR Battery's Just started showing up lowes doing major deals on all the orginal powerstack batteries i got 120 plus dollars batteries for less then 60 bucks per battery to make room in stores for the new Powerstack XR
I went over with the Ryobi a few years ago as they were growing and would get the jobs done most of the time but I needed something more powerful and reliable. I looked at Milwaukee and DeWalt at the same time and Milwaukee was the one many were talking about 3 years ago. But I'm happy I went with DeWalt. They are known for reliable tools but the upgrades DeWalt is making these last 2 or 3 years have been huge upgrades. I'm so happy with DeWalt and they have upgraded and still upgrading non stop for the last 3 years. I just went to go throw another 1000 bucks on their stuff thanks to the November specials. Couldn't be happier. They out perform most including Milwaukee at a good price range.
always been mactool and dewalt guy, just bought the new 961, its a monster. With the 15amps flex, it just knocks stuff down
I have every single one of these dewalt tools but the beta that isn't out yet my most used by far is the Atomics for every day Shop work with customer vehicles 80 percent can be done with the atomics other 20 percent is for the big boy high torques @Torque Test Channel
Absolutely. The atomic is clutch
This style of comparison it the goods!! If you could do this for everything that would be epic. (I realize time consuming for you guys). However perfectly timed for me, because DeWalt is having a "tax time" sale here currently in Australia. So i am personally looking for my 1st Dewalt wrench setup. Thank you so much guys, this makes it super dang easy to make decisions. Also the timing is uncanny. Must mean i was destined to be team yellow after all.
The dcf891 is my favorite mod torque such a beast for its size
I bought a DCF900 a few weeks ago. Easily takes off rusted VW axle nuts. Though, the one it couldnt take off, neither could my co-workers 3/4" mac air gun. even with heat it took him maybe 20 minutes to remove it, he had to heat it up so much.
“If you’re in the market, you’re in the right place…”
This is my favorite straight forward catch phrase ever❤
I've been looking to upgrade my set of DeWalt tools, so this helps me out a TON! thank you!
I'm a huge Dewalt 20max fan
that's all I buy..instead of having to buy different chargers and batteries..Dewalt makes it Easier
I have the atomic shallow impact driver and the older high torque XR 899 I think, and between the two of them I'm quite happy with my choices.
I have been using a DCF900 as an apprentice mechanic for a couple months now. Still waiting on a bolt that it cant get off.
I went straight for the semi truck/agricultural tractor big 1/2" impact for my minivan repairs. The 1/2" DCF900 with 5amp battery can be had for $199.
Where to purchase, pls?
Bomgaars website special. It's back up to $280 now, unfortunately.@@pblaer
Dewalt 892 worked good on my very over-tightened lug nuts on a couple of cars and trailer, and also the big 33mm nut securing my tow ball, which was somewhat rusted on after 20 years.
I work for a good sized company that uses nothing but dewalt. Sucks cause I've always bled red. But no matter what floats your boat, dewalt is not slackin anymore. Glad to see all the competition!
you company should get a proper employee then i guess 😂
@casemodder89 bored enough to be a dick? Use your intellect for something positive n you'll be less miserable I'm hoping
I work for a company that builds bridges and 90%of our tools is DEWALT. The employees beat the crap out of it daily and it still runs strong.
Still luvin' my 887 after all these years around the house. 😊
While I was on base, the base exchange clearancing out the DCF891B for 90 bucks. An absolute steal since it was the last one in stock too!
I have the DCF850 Atomic. I work in the commercial door industry. The super compact design is awesome Love it
Actually the perfect application to 1/4 impact drill/drivers is in carpentry and in particular rough carpentry. Without question there is not comparison to that of an ordinary drill/drivers. My favorite for this application is the Dewalt XR Impact Driver, Brushless, 1/4", 3-Speed (DCF845B). It is very compact enabling it to squeeze into tight spaces like studs that would be impossible with ordinary impact drivers and even the smaller width the Dewalt "Atomic" variation. The three speeds enable a lot of flexibility.
I also found that 1/4 impact drivers + screws with the more expensive Torx type heads (common in exterior applications) make the job so easy but the problem is that common Phillips head screw heads dominate for interior applications which require a lot more pressure to drive into place.
For automotive use, I would not even think of using a 1/4 IN impact driver but rather I would use a 3/8 IN or a 1/2 IN impact drivers. I am not a mechanic, but if I were, it would not bother me to spend the extra money on the 900 or 961 considering that on Amazon are not that significantly higher in price than the mid-range cost of Dewalt models. Solves a lot of headaches.
I run most of those guns daily at our shop in the rust belt. They're downright impressive; esp the dcf900. I've invested into Dewalt and have no regrets. I have firsthandedly smoked the red brand with mine. What's not a win about that?
thank you for your video. i use dewalt and have used them for the last 25yrs. i didnt want to change to milwaukee because i dont want a bunch of different batteries. i like using one battery system so i've always used dewalt. i've always got good longevity from my dewalts. im glad to see that they have some heavy weights out there. i use air because i already had my setup before i knew that anyone could build cordless that would be even remotely comparable. otherwise all of my tools would be cordless dewalt. i have been thinking about getting a dewalt cordless for the times when my carb on my generator is plugged up. thank you so much for helping me figure out which would be best for beside the highway use. also, seeing the difference in torque with the battery comparison was very helpful as well. again, thank you for all that you do.
Thank you! Finally a video that addresses the exact questions I have about the specific brand I’m looking at. Thank you.
Was changing the timing belt on an Acura TL and learned about the dreaded Honda crank bolts.
Used a DCF921 and a 19mm impact hoping it'd workout. It didn't budge.
Ended up getting a DCF900 and the weighted Lisle 19mm.
Not even 1 second into pulling the trigger and it just broke free and came loose, it worked even better than I'd have hoped probably overkill even 😂
I just found this channel a week or so ago.. this was the most helpful video i’ve seen yet. It also kept my attention better.. thanks for the content.. i bought a gen 2 freak the other day as a result of info from this channel (kit on sale $50)
Great presentation! I was confused on what all the models were. Definitely going with one of the compact models as my work is installing office furniture i dont need high torque and the size is a plus for carrying around with me all day.
Great video. I modded my 850 with a 3/8 anvil and have an 891 as well, I work on a lot of work trucks and heavy equipment and it is *extremely* rare that I need more beans. 900 is next, I don't think I can justify the weight increase of the 961 for such a small increase over the 900.
900 is a Monster
How well does that 3/8 mod work on the 850? Thinking about doing it myself. What parts do I need and where can I find details
@gbeving3167 I made a short video on my channel and put the anvil I used in the description somewhere. I use that thing more than any tool I own daily now and is hasn't had a single issue.
I love my 891, not much it can't do and it's light in the hand. Totally recommend getting one if you work on cars and aren't a snapon or milwaukee loyalist.
Despite the majority of my hand tools being Snap-On and my cordless power tools being Milwaukee, I’m not a loyalist to either. However, what I am is someone who hates multiple battery platforms and in my tool box right now I have 5. That’s come down from a peak of 8. Right as I finished replacing all my old worn out Matco, Snap-On, and Ingersoll cordless tools with Milwaukee, Dewalt started releasing their new lineup. Damnit! I neither need nor want another battery platform and my history with Dewalt tools is not good, but man they sure are pumping out some enticing stuff. Ugh first world problems.
Yeah I was able to basically fully disassemble my car with my 891. Though I don’t live in the rust belt 😅
I bought a DCF900 yesterday, wanted the 891 but for a bit more money I got another battery and charger. The 900 does a great job ripping the leaf spring bolts out of an old Samurai, but I destroyed one socket that got stuck between the immovable object and the unstoppable force.
Hmmm I think I want a DeWalt impact wrench... but I wonder if a driver would do for my home use. I wonder how much research I'll have to do to figure what I should buy... and is a driver good enough on its own for my applications?
Torque Test Channel enters the chat. Here's a video that literally shows everything you want to know in one place. I also figured you'd want to compare what happens with different batteries, I know you didn't ask, but it's probably important.
You have amazing and useful content! Also, great job on the entertainment factor.
The letters DCF have lost all meaning for me... Great video!
Can't wait till you guys do the FLEX FX 1451 MID TQ that I have been testing for 3weeks I need to know how close it is to the 891
Acme backorder ours. Loan it to us! 😆
The 1/4" drivers are basically meant for woodworking/wall installs/etc, rather than machinery work. My 850 is a fantastic companion to the XR compact hammer drill it came with as a set.
I've been using a dcf899 for about 7 years.. it's more than enough for anything I do, but damn if these videos don't make me want to upgrade
2 years ago milwaukee was a good buy but now i kind of wish I'd held out for dewalt for the simple reason most mechanics don't have them and wont ask to borrow charger/battery
Nah give it a year or so and dewank and theft deterrent teal will be back in their rightful place at the bottom of the pile. The other 2 are just playing catch-up as usual.
@@johnthumble5154 dewalt is definitely not my preference
@@melvingibson4525 phew 😅 had me worried there for a while
And in the meantime you'll be the one failing to bust some frozen fastener. Just last week my dcf900 removed a Audi axle bolt that a new red 2767 with a 'high output' couldn't. What's not to like about that?
The DCF921 1/2 inch breaks 450 ft lbs free but the DCF 923 breaks up to 400 ft lbs free and failed at 450 great video.
The 923 has the 3/8" anvil and I feel will bust a lot of sockets with it.
Went 921 and found some 1/2" Nano Sockets which make a bit more accessible to tight spots.
I got my DCF891 with 5Ah battery not long ago . Had a short extender on and it did not losen any of my wheel bolts on a audi b6 avant. I know I regally over tight wheel bolts. And then it struck me remove the short extender and try. I had seen the video where a extender or swivel reduce the nm significant, so removed the extender and all the bolts came lose so impressing fast and easy . But it difficult to quite understand that a extender that was only 6cm long did not remove one bolt event after tryning for over one minute on two different bolts.
I cannot thank you enough for this precise review on each dewalt impact with the chart guide! Brilliant
Wow! You guys are heros, and I'm glad to see Dewalt pushing hard to be competitive, for slightly cheaper than Milwaukee? Amazing tools here. Just wish they would clean up their naming conventions, lol.
Word is, DeWalts' next impact wrench will have enough torque to dismantle reality.
Hardest bolt I ever removed was the steering box nut holding the pitman arm. Getting it off was even harder with a 2 ton pulley cranked as much as I could with with 24" breaker bar and 3' iron pipe then even had to heat it before it sounded like a gunshot went off when it finally popped off. I eventually decided to get some power tools because don't want to deal with that bs anymore.
Bought the 900 because of your video. I didn't use the affiliate link because I refuse to buy from amazon but I did throw a like and subscribe your way. If there is another way to support your efforts let me know. Thank you!
Nice video. I'm a fan of DeWalt tools and am also looking for another 1/4" impact driver. Thanks for this. What would be nice if you could format all this info into a spec sheet of some kind that people could print out for comparison.
Can you test corded electric 1/2" impact drivers at some point? cheap to professional . I just don't have enough air for a pneumatic one, the cordless are spendy. I have porter cable and is does fine. Less than $80 on the jungle store). I do have an invert in my truck, so it is handy to remove lug nuts for flats and such.
The dcf891 is the best all around impact that i own. The snapon cinder block gets used unoften since i bought this.
Good to see my old 894 is still representing. Still, I have a little case of 891 envy now.
great video, i’ve been curious how they compare to the milwaukee video scale so it was nice to see this. although i really appreciated when you compared other competitors, like the dewalt and milwaukee mid torque or the m12 and 12v dewalt. still good nonetheless.
Your graphs and explanations made a big difference in making an informed choice. I ordered the DCF891 from your link above. Thank you.
Id like to see 1/4” drive impact wrenches compared too, i know not every company makes them, but they come in handy sometimes sometimes a 3/8 socket is a little too thick to get in certain places, holes, and around sockets that are in weird places, or up against something thats in the way. I wish all the companies would make a 1/4” impact wrench.
Iv hade most of these impact drivers in the last ten years and I have had very good luck with them dropping on concrete many times and the ony problem iv had was the ball and spring chucks would malfunction dropping the bit out but it was an easy fix.
Today I purchased the DCF891 with 5a Powerstack battery to go with my Hercules impact driver and Hercules 1/2 High Torque impact wrench. The Mid Torque from Hercules is pretty anemic so I was looking for something on the smaller side with decent power. The DCF891 is most definitely strong and anyone considering should try it out. I am keeping the HF High Torque but I see myself getting a lot of use from the 891 because of its convenient size
dcf 891B or dcf891Q1??
@@Kanjengjaller DCF891B
I also have the regular charger and 5a Powerstack battery. The tool has been great so far
@@emmcee476 ok thanks
@@emmcee476 what is the deference , DCF891B and DCF891Q1
Thanks I hace really been enjoying your content. I dont have applications that push my m12 fuel surge driver that I need to pull out my 1st gen. m18 fuel, so watching a comparison of all of these massive torque yellow tools is purely esoteric and: your great video.
This is the best review (that I have seen) of DeWalt cordless impact wrenches. You did a quantitative comparison test and show the data. The chart of which kind of fasteners require what amount of torque is very helpful. Could you summarize your data in a table at the end of the video?
891 and 900 are a beast... that 891 be useful in hard to reach parts of hgvs and cars.. like on top of axles and along chassis rails.. ...
I have the dcf911 and it's been great. If I need anything more I'll reach for my Pneumatic impact.
I would like to say that in Arkansas and I figure most of the south that I find that the m12 impact wrench and so the dewalts in the same category will do like 85% of everything on a car. Even axel nuts on a car. It may not do bigger trucks but for cars and small trucks I have done most everything with my stubby.
Damn I wish we didn't have salt here. I'm more into early 2000s trucks but they are all rotted tf here. I have an 04 now that I got cheap low mileage with no rust but that will probably never happen again. Guy was from west coast and the engine blew so I bought it for $800.
The battery comparison part had me thinking that if you could come up with a way to monitor amps usage and voltage drop at the battery while running tests would be a good addition of information to have. Some sort of interface between the batter and tool that wouldnt bottleneck....
Run a heavy wire and use a clamp ammeter.
I want the 961 and will run it with 5 Amp Power Stack will even put ADAPTER on it and run my FLEX STACKED lithium I have found that running 18 volt tools with 24 volt battery they run FASTER
What about removing the anode rod from a tank water heater?
Can't wait for the 1/2" 961 as a heavy equipment field technician
This video was informative thanks
I currently have a Dewalt DCF 787N-XJ that wasn’t in this video, I don’t really know what the suffix characters mean however it’s mostly been good enough for me but it’s not strong enough to remove things such as wheelnuts etc so I am planning on upgrading to the DCF921/922 as they state 600nm of breakaway and it’s a nice compact size to get in tighter areas
Thanks, this was just what I was looking for.
Debating between getting the DCF891 or the DCF921… I’d mainly use it for removing lug nuts with the occasional suspension work. Obviously the size is the concern. In an engine bay the smaller one would be much more useable for sure but obviously not as powerful.
891 for suspension
I have both of the sub compact guns,the impact driver and the impact wrench.The small size and enormous power make these impacts the best on the market in my opinion.Thats DCF850 and DCF 921.Those two along with a high torque and you have everything you will ever need as a DIY guy.And sorry Milwaukee but IMO Dewalt is king when it comes to impacts.Dont be a fool and buy that 12v milwaukee stubby,buy the 921.
It's great to compare the data like this and give some perspective to the total line. As for the options, I have no interest or use for a 1/2" impact more powerful than the DCF900 as it's already a socket eater. Additionally, if I need that level of torque (850ft+ on your measure) I'm reaching for a 3/4" option.
My favorite? The DCF891 all day. The size, weight, handle ergos and performance are perfect-which is why I purchased one. I team that with an Milwaukee M12 stubby 3/8".
Gotta say, still love my DCF923...I keep getting tempted to upgrade my 894 and 899, but I hardly use the high torque, so maybe just an 891 in my future.
Great test though :)
Super happy with my 891. Got the 5ah powerstack with it and rarely switch it out of "2nd" gear - lasts all day in that mode and can always be turned to full beans and act like the old high torque.
@@Mis73rRand0m yeah, I imagine the 891 would be plenty for 99% of my higher torque needs. I also have an IR2135TiMax if I really need the beans, I don't like the high torque as it's just way too bulky.
That 921 😊… lightweight, fits anywhere, handles 95% of weekend warriors needs!
12:07 but can it remove an oil filter put on at jiffy lube?
Ive got the atomic 20v 1/2 inch drill, the atomic 1/4 and 3/8 impacts and the 3/8 ratchet. Love them.
1/2 inch drill is dumb. all u need ia 1/2 inch high torque impact, 1/4, and then adapter 1/2 to 3/8 and impact rated drill bit and ur set boyo
my dcf923 takes alot of abuse and surprisingly a lot of suspension bolts too, axle nuts on a rusted 2004 silverado were no problem and i live in canada so everything is very rusted. But needless to say it has surprised me and fuck it if it takes them off I'm using it no need to haul around a big impact
Yup. Same country, same experience! Love it. Haha.