Drag Race: Formula E vs WRC vs Formula One... in the wet! | Top Gear Christmas Special | Top Gear
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- Опубліковано 23 гру 2021
- Silent night? Not likely when there's a Christmas drag race on your TV featuring three of the fastest cars in motorsport. Which will be first over the line: the all-electric racer from DS, Ford's Fiesta World Rally car or representing Formula One... Mercedes AMG? Let the festivities begin...
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Now I can trust that f1 cars can evacuate 85 litres of water per second. Crazy.
Does martin brundle saying that literally any time it rains not convince you?
Only for full wets, intermediate tyres can only evacuate 30 litres of water per second
At 300 km/h*
They evacuate a litre of piss out of you first time in lol
@@pangeranrio0112 depends on how wet the water is
Considering the W10 produces at least 900 horsepower, all of which goes to the rear wheels, the fact that it stayed so close to the all wheel drive WRC car off the line in the wet is really impressive.
With cold tires too
Without traction control.
@@stevenross-watt8640 without lewis hamilton too
W12, mate.
@@Reslivo that's a W10 with W12 livery. You can see the clear difference on the side pods and intakes. Plus you can see the floor. This is pretty much the car Racing Point used last year
Expecting a dry weather test in the UK is pretty much hopeless.
Especially in the winter
You sir deserve a like
*laughs in north west of germany* we have even less sunny days in the year
why?! it only rains 14 month a year over there!😁😁
East anglia has less rainfall that Adelaide… fact.
1:07 it's nuts how there's hardly a drop of water on the helmet or the visor given the amount of spray around the car. Really shows how strong the aero is to carry the water with the air away from the driver.
the water isnpicked up by the tires not by the front wing so, pretty obvious
But doesnt splash in face due to aero
Can I screenshot
Nft smh
you can drive a cabrio on the autobahn while its raining without the inside getting wet if you're fast enough too
This literally happens every single time they race F1 against WRC or Rally Cross.
Wet or dry the WRC eats their soul coming off the line but once the F1 starts putting down the power it's over.
Merry christmas 2021.
Exactly, throw in a couple of corners and some braking and the F1 car would be gone
@@Slash1066 not if those corners were in a forest.
I think a Rallycross car with twice the power of a WRC car would give the F1 car a bit more of a race tbf, I remember quotes flying round in the early 2000's that those Rally cross cars where as quick doing a 200m sprint as an F1 car.
@@Slash1066 except all the corners are extremely tight hairpins. (Think Mirabeau and the Hotel Hairpin.) The WRC car would utterly wipe the floor with F1 given how hard it is for such long wheelbase cars to get around those corners.
i've seen the F1 cars once in singapore 2017, they looked absolutely insane!! wayyyy more awesome than just looking at it on tv. i hope i can see the 2022 cars in person next year, just gotta pray they will race in singapore again
Fingers crossed for the return of the Singapore GP next year!
They really would look spectacular under the lights at Marina Bay
@@magnustan841 yeah man, and also no strict travel restrictions to singapore 😂
Damn what made you stop going?
Watching a F1 car live is amazing, super aggressive, they beat up the environment around them just like a helicopter.
TV doesn't do the brutality of F1 any justice.
What would actually be really interesting would be a WRC car against Formular E on a really tight Formula E track.
In dry, nooo chance. Better make it really wet.
In both instances the WRC would win by a mile. Much much more mechanical grip and accelerates way faster. Even a Tesla model S plaid would have that formula E for breakfast
@@Roguescienceguy tesla would go straight thru the barrier on a tight track
@@martin3288 don't be so sure about that. The plaid is surprisingly capable. You probably missed that a bonestock Plaid smashed the GT-record on the Nordschleife Nürburgring right? it's heavier and bigger but it has waaaaay bigger tires, much more torque and horsepower and brakecalipers that make you collect your teeth from the dash after smashing your face in to the steering wheel. Anyway, what I really wanna say is that formula e-cars are artificially downregulated nightmares that could easily be much much better. They are electrified shoppingcarts with useless aero bolted on them for show.
@@Roguescienceguy the plaid understeers like crazy, it would get gobbled up
In a racing sim, the formula E was 30 seconds faster around the nurburgring
1:04 once F1 car gets the initial traction sorted it's just crazy how it accelerates.
It's amazing how the Fiesta managed to hold its position in the first few seconds. Imagine if it were a Rally1 car.
F1 with cold tyres is trash. Give similar compound to rest and they will look much worse :)
FWD
@@Atomus87 it’s also rwd, they all had cold tires and if I’m not wrong E1 uses the same damn perellies
Same thing would happen, just like 1 second later. That Mercedes has 1000 HP. As soon as it can get traction, it is over against just about anything on four wheels (maybe an LMP1 car could outrun it or a top fuel NHRA dragster).
Imagine? U cant really think a rally car would beat a f1 car dude 😭
That's the W10 from 2019 (with the classic sidepods) isn't it? Another very dominant car from Mercedes-AMG. It was the first car to date which managed to start a season with 5 consecutive 1-2 finishes. Basically, the only rival the W10 had that year was Ferrari with its Saturn V rocket-engine.
W10 was silver i think
But that didnt have the black livery, unless they made it specifically for this then it would be the W11
@@AnthonyEssaye they do this with every showcar, even renault (alpine) had some 2012 showcars painted in their 2020 livery back in 2020 at the goodwood fos.
@@alppnarbas9210 they just put new livery on an old car
Did w10 had that 2 small wings on its nose/ near antenna
The ammount of water those formula 1 tyres expells is just amazing, true engineering!
full wets can displace 50 litres a second
@@willtron3000 80*
@@tafarid.7347 *85 l/s at 300 kph
@@utuberme1 its awesome indeed. But the spray generated by this makes racing i the wet almost impossible nowadays. They are currently trying to figure out a solution to reduce the spray. The race in Suzuka was cut short and the infamous GP at SPA did not really happen because of the intense spray in heavy weather conditions.
Top gear with these three is like having water on your pudding instead of custard
And the Americans reading this comment think "hm... I guess that's bad...."
Fax
They even trying to copy the whole “you’re too short, you’re too big” schtick 🤦🏽♂️ bruh people say this is good, how bad must evans have been for this to be better?
The wrc car really impressed, especially at the start!
All 4 wheels are driven probably that’s why.
4wd, launch control and active diffs.
Its heavy so its has more downforce than f1 at very low speeds
Why? AWD vs RWD from a dig, in rain nonetheless? That went exactly as expected
@@Alt-sy3lf Grip, not downforce.
That WRC ultra hot hatch surprised me, quite honestly. Knew it'd be quickest off the line due to AWD, but it actually wasn't that far behind the F1 car by the end. The 2017-spec WRC cars are actually insane (the fastest WRC cars of all time by far) and will go down in legend, same as Group B - especially now that the era is officially over. They are some of the most outrageous motor-sport cars ever built. Truly, the 2017-2021 era of WRC has been pure bliss as a spectator. So sad it's over.
next years cars will be even better mate, more power, more noise, cant wait for the season to begin. merry christmas :)
Looks like I've got to get into WRC then
To be fair it was in the wet which benefits WRC car. In the dry the f1 car would have been miles away and a close battle between FE and WRC
Honestly, if it was in dry conditions, F1 would rip a new one to rally car, than again, would love to see Lancia S4 here, 0-100kph sub 2.5 on gravel, imagine it..
I loved group A cars... The looks, the sound and most important actual race car was very close to road car... Thesedays those rally cars are based of shopping hatchbacks and are not even similar to them
Now this is what you call a Christmas Present!
Felt like a 7 year old kid again seeing these machines.
Thanks Top Gear. 👏🎄
🙂
Would be interesting to see how a LMP1 car would fare
3rd or 4th, because in the dry, its acceleration is slower than that of a F1 car.
Would batter all of them bar the f1 car
@@Nitramrec really?? From a standstill? How much HP do LMP1 cars make?
@@defnotatroll 1100 with hybrid on, also 4WD.
Depends what you consider an LMP1. Wasn't it Porsche who went absolutely balls to the wall ludicrous mode with their LMP1 just for the lolz. In the process setting some trackrecords here and there
Guarantee the wrc was the loudest. Those things are deafening on launch
F1 cars are much louder I'm real life than you'd realise
I've heard both up close, F1 cars, even these more sanitised hybrid era cars are way louder than WRC. But I much prefer the sound of WRC.
@@wilkowilkins363 I know that. Been to both grands Prix and wrc events. Only one of them did I come away with sore ears. And it wasn't the one that Lewis Hamilton was at.
I'm not saying f1 cars are quiet, they actually sound really good. But wrc cars are crazy loud
@@garygup ever stood next to a wrc car doing a full stage launch? That's the dictionary definition of loud
@@Matthew-ll9ke yes I have, and yes it's a full on spine tingling sound. Still not as loud as an F1 car doing the same thing. You don't hear an F1 car, the sound bypasses your ears and you feel it in your whole skeleton. Nothing prepares you for the asualt on your senses. It is Incredible.
WRC car with all wheel drive gives it insane speed at the start woww
the w10 with cold tires and full wet tires... imagine an outlap, soft, and LH on the wheel, INSANE
dude its fucking wet, why df would you use the softs, wanna cut the front wing off too?
Yeah especially LH, he’s so quick this year
@@F1ProStyle ? ? 28 points in 3 races, he is doing amazingly good for that car
F1 car : your all challenging me, haha.. don't hope
The sound of the fiesta WRC is madness 🤩🤩🤩🤩
They've done what the FIA couldn't. Get Mercedes to field a car post season.
Yep, and what Mercedes have done is reasonable
Wasn’t that Williams?
As a native English speaker , I was grateful for the subtitles button.
Really. I just can't understand those 2 northerners!
the WRC launch, omg what a grip!
WRC or Rally Cross always eat your face on launch. What a machine
I remember when Red Bull brought their f1 car to cornell university. I had no idea how small you have to be to drive those. My fat leg wouldn’t fit in it. But respect to those that get play with them.
No point having extra weight in the car..... gotta get the smallest driver possible (Lord knows how Mark Webber ever fitted in one?)
thats why hammond got to drive it and not mays or jeremy. It's like being a jockey
Tell that to Russell and Albon with their height of 1.85m
@@Norza47 I remember Russell had literally cut his shoes to fit in the car 😄When he was replacing Lewis.
That really made my Christmas the merriment. Thanks top gear
You can see the hapiness on Stig's face of the present he got
Every one of those cars were very impressive in their own way
Man that amount of dirty air the F1 downforce creates, no wonder passing is so hard -- the whole wake is a giant vortex storm! The rally car had next to nothing on dirty air but that AWD launch was mental. It's all those open wheels mostly. The formula E car hardly makes any dirty air at all.
Hey thanks for the awesome filming angles which literaly give no indication on who was fastest off the start 👏👏👏
This is like comparing bicycles to cars to fighter jets
I love that the team at TG are still providing hard hitting consumer advice, even over the holiday season 👏
🤣🤣🤣🤣👌👍
Merry christmas 2021. 🙏
Since when was TG a comsumer advice program? 1975? Go read a magazine if thats what you want.
@@Ade85 I wholeheartedly agree 👍
I was expecting the Formula E car to have the best acceleration. I was completely wrong
Me too.
Rimac Nevera would destroy they FE car. Well actually, all of them tbh
@@jesusrv2009 aapark owl is still there to beat the rimac, there's still time before evs can go above ice ;)
well, they are known to be cornering beasts so I guess we can see why it does have much straight-line speed
@@jesusrv2009 maybe in a straight line for a hundred metres or so lol
I love that the team at TG are still providing hard hitting consumer advice, even over the holiday season
One of the only videos I’ce watched from the new top gear & DANGGG these guys don’t have the soul !
Why did they cut the video so much? Couldn't we see the whole run to compare each phase? It's not easy to watch in this form..
Agreed - I can't even tell what's going on very well. Why not give us the unbroken drone feed so we can see the cars relative to each other?
Imagine what the F1 car would do to the opposition over a lap, or a race distance.
🙂
It would destroy them, totally.
I think the wrc (and certainly a rallycross car) would give the f1 car run for its money around a whole wet lap - because f1 cars are not good on wet corners and they couldn't accelerate hard out of the corners either - that's where the rally car would have the advantage. So if a track/lap was very twisty the rally car could win, but on a track with long straights the f1 car would win. What this video shows more than anything, is how slow the formula E car is
@@paulgriffiths531 F1 is better on corners too though. The rally car doesn't have the downforce for the lateral Gs a F1 car cant turn at and even its 4wd isn't enough
Lmao I love how nobody is saying anything about the Formula E car
No Michael, No, No Michael THAT WAS SO NOT RIGHT! 😂
Paddy: what a *rur* occasion.
Fred: yeah, lovely....
stuff
Seeing as how all three are geared differently I would have expected no other outcome.
So amazing 👏👏
The launch from the WRC car is Incredible
The WRC LAUNCH MODE at the start 🔥🔥
Seeing the stig in a formula 1 car is awesome and reminds me of when they had “the stig” unveil his identity to be Michael Schumacher
the car number was 44 too 🤔
I don’t think it is the “Stig” driving the Mercedes’ f1 car. I would of thought 💭 it is Pascal Wehrlein the Mercedes reserve driver.
@@stevenjones1009 me too
@@stevenjones1009 Wehrlein hasn't been the Mercedes reserve for years, he's with Porsche in Formula E these days. Their reserves are Vandoorne and De Vries (plus Russell before his promotion).
That being said, it's probably one of either Gutierrez or Davidson, the test/sim drivers, behind the wheel in this video
@@DoMw94 Probably Gutierrez.
Wow, They actually managed to convince Merc to lend them an F1 car, Absolutely crazy.
The beautiful thing about The Stig is it can be anyone. So it’s probably a merc test driver in there.
Watching the stigs head rock as hi shifts trough the gears just makes you realize how strong those f1 racer necks are
Haha sorry Chris but I thought you where crazy tall 😁. Epic video
The most impressive thing about this is how this isn't even the same car they used on race weekend, it's a demo car (a car that is specifically designed by teams to be slower than the original and is usually used for off-track demonstration/performance)
I'm surprised Mercedes actually showed up to an event.
I don't watch Top Gear anymore but I gotta say this was pretty badass
Stig always gets an f1 car to drive every christmas
It could be amazing if Jeremy , Hammond & James were the hosts as before !
perhaps even their mothers would do better : D
That W12 just looks fabulous 😍
Is that the W12 or W11...the 2020 Car?
@@BNOVA The 2020 car doesn't exist since it has been turned into the w12
It's not W12. It's W11 or W10.
0:26 look at it's floor
@@fazilmuhammed5410 They just had testing with the w12 for the next season and it had a an older style floor
@@0WhyNot3 F1 Teams Don't use their most recent cars for things like this. Often they use the older car and seeing the Colour and the Halo....it is the W11. The Fastest F1 Car in History.
Wow, The Stig is back, I am so happy :)
🙂
I never thought this drag race would happen,damn
If you do drag races in a while you should do it big🔥🔥
This is best entertainment ever
This is an awesome gift for xmas .......but the same on a dry track would be awesome🤩🤩💥💥💥🥳😎
The WRC cars off the line are just something else!!
*Top Gear without Jeremy, James, and Richard is like Christianity without Jesus Christ or The Beatles without John, Paul, George, and Ringo.*
Theyre literally in their 60s/50s you want them to keep on entertaining you til retirement age?
Just imagine this with soft tyres and dry asphalt
Some Christmas this… with lush green trees behind them 😂
I want to see cars like these race across a city with different turns and ramps over a 15 miles range just for a real world comparison for the laymen who will never go that fast
"The Stig" in the Mercedes would be either Esteban Gutierrez or Anthony Davidson - those guys get all the fun with those cars once the season is done.
If you haven't seen it - look for Davidson doing the lap of light on the Mercedes channel.... EPIC
But why would he be driving with car 44🧐 Educate me
@@ow8374 you could be right - this either explains why Lewis wasn't part of the "secret santa" everyone hates him for missing OR the other reason is that the Mercedes has been used in a lot of promotional film and footage this last month and there wasn't time to repaint the numbers....
My money is still on Davidson or Gutierrez though.
@@fablewalls my dad was at the filming day of the special it was recorded back on October time probably used 44 as it was Lewis championship winning chassis
That was a pretty awesome race even though it was on the wettest track I've seen! I reckon on a dry track the F1 car would have caught up sooner and maybe the Formula E would have fared better
Don’t think so, Formula cars are sluggish under 100k’s. On a dry track the WRC would have pulled a lager gap on slicks and the F1 and FE cars would have been closer for the first few meters.
@@alex_inside Sluggish is not a word anyone uses to describe a F1 car. Sure the AWD rally car would have the edge off the line but considering it lost even in the wet I think the F1 car would have had a larger gap in the dry. Are the Formula E car's tires too skinny for any grip in the wet?
The video I needed 😎
Thanks Top Gear for this X-mas present. 😊🎁
🙂
if Kimmi Raikkonnen or Rosberg was in top gear, I´m 100% sure that I would see this program
would like to see it on dry surface
its not so different F1 cars always look slow compared to other racers until they hit like 40-50 mph and then the downforce kicks in and they just vanish. in the dry the FE car might be closer to WRC of the start though
F1 car have 4s to 200 km/h
@@davidswanborough1769 Nothing to do with downforce, everything to do with tyre traction. Downforce during acceleration only starts playing a role after 40-50 mph, like you said. EXCEPT, at this speed almost any car will have 100% traction with racing tyre. If anything high downforce slows your acceleration down once you hit the 1/4 mark of the drag strip.
its the uk, that doesnt really work
I would think that hot slicks on an F1 car are a big advantage, but I would still bet on the WRC for the first 50 meter.
Merry Christmas to the Stig!!
I knew that WRC will beat F1 car at the start
WOW, I've been waiting for this soo long.
what a perfect weather condition👍
What could ever go wrong, speeding on wet tar
I'm a big formula E fan and i found it surprising how good the FE car was able to go with the other cars. I mean it only has 335hp.
335hp, 2wd, single gear, all weather road tyres
Never enjoyed a 2 minute video more in my life 😁🤣
Seeing the Stig in the W10 cracked me up 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hasn’t this show gone downhill Haven’t watched it in years now I know why
W12 just wowwww
W11*
@@princeemathew I think it's the 12 but if not, my bad
@@Cubetuber If you're considering by the livery it's W12, but closely at the floor you'll understand it's W11.
@@princeemathew I was looking at the front wing, I should've looked at the floor
@@princeemathew It's the w10 with a w12 livery - look at the sidepod inlets :-) The only w11 in existence, as far as i know, is the one from the silverstone last year, which finished on 3 wheels.
I feel bad for these three cause they are really good together, they just don’t have that hatred that the other 3 had 😂
Nobody’s gonna talk about how the F1 car still had its bloody cooling fans in when driving
Yea i just realized 😂 and it’s Lewis Hamilton Car bc of the number 44 thought it was gonna be bottas
The Stig in this case being Nyck De Vries
is that confirmed? i was just thinking that myself...
@@evanmadurai966 no wonder the FE car is a DS Techeetah instead of the championship-winning Merc EQ.
I want to see this in dry conditions and warm tyres and DRS wide open.
wrc still wins off the mark... you know that wet still affects the wrc as well right?
There's 37 seconds I'll never get back.
Excited to watch until seen wet ground
Loved the way the WRC car took off...eventual winner: well, F1 is F1 for a reason.
🙂
Wow a drag race where race cars are actually up to date? Subscribed!
Not quite. 2 years old F1 car and the FE car is already phased out. Dunno about wrc so maybe that's current...
@@BTcaice I think that FE car is relatively current, Gen2 won't be phased out until the 22-23 season when Gen3 debuts
A lion, an crocodile, and a burr. Got it. LOL!
Really insane Christmas gift 🤤☺️
Att: first time Sting talk..
WRC car goes from 0-100km/h in under 2 secs... in ANY weather.
evidently, F1 isn't made to do that, and FormulaE doesn't eat enough dinosaurs.
A merc f1 car??? Props to them for getting it. Also dat rally car do be having insane acceleration!
No such word as dat in the English language
Number 44 LH’s car wow 🔥
Carwow should do the drag race between three of this
Time and again Formula 1 cars prove they’re on top of the food chain.
For reference, A Lancia delta S4 did the 1/4 mile in 9.98 seconds.
Then it broke down 🤣
@@SDK2006b It did the FIA European championship for more then 10 years, the drag took place before one of the hillclimbs.
@@alistermccallum In reference to Group B Rally cars which has lots if people's interest in comparison of currant WRC cars.
@@alistermccallum quarter mile!?
@@alistermccallum That same car did 670hp on the dyno. And it runs 2.2 Bar of boost, on par with the factory grp b cars. Also remember an old article of the rs200 clocking a 10.2 on the 1/4 mile. , then came the rs200 evolution with 700 hp, with the same spec engine doing 9.44 seconds on mike endeans ford puma.
bruh you can not tell me that this trio is better than the last one
WRC is not appreciated enough. And it's the most SPECTACULAR of the 3...just the scenes! Amazing!
these drags always go the same way the F1 car gives the other car hope and then hits like 50 mph and just shatters the rest in the second half of the race. then you got the other side of F1 have the cars all stop from 100mph the F1 car is just another level
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Below 60 mph it's all tires. But that rally car was super impressive.
That's the big thing F2 drivers say after they get to drive a F1 car; it's the brakes. They're crazy. Stamp on the brakes on a F1 car, you stop like you've crashed into a wall.
But seriously, the formula E car was still bloody quick, even in the wet! Despite getting beaten by the WRC and F1 classes, it's still very impressive!
Disagree. If that is the pinnacle of electric power, it is atrocious.
After how much the mainstream media yaks about instant torque and how much faster electric cars are etc, here we see truly how fast they are when we compare the best with the best.
@@darshan.sk37 It's not. They need to reduce it's power to save battery, otherwise they would do 1 lap races
@@darshan.sk37 Formula E is nerfed. The test was biased. Formula E has a maximum power a third of F1 and speed limitation 100 km/h less hence this whole test was just rubbish.
@@EmperorAst Ahm...no....Formula E is rubbish!
@@Juggernaut30 Duh! look how slow they make it go.
The way Paddy said bear
If only the show had consistent content like this. RIP old Top Gear.