Well, let's be fair, F1 cars don't like airport concrete that isn't rubbered in. F1 car would have been way more competitive to the bike with sticky asphalt.
Mad respect to red bull for bringing all this kit together and for sponsoring so many different categories of motorsport, sports, extreme sports and E-sports. Absolute legends.
Yes, but it wasn't all their kit yet. They have still got the Dakar Rally bike, cars & trucks. When they race on dirt. That will be the time we can see those machines against these cars aside for the MotoGP bike that will obviously crashes in the dirt & also F1 car that will have a massive wheelspin. Going to look forward for that drag race dirt. I can't believe the WRC 550 HP car has beaten the 600 HP Rallycross car in this race. ☝️
@@leonwiddicombe8947 Win on Sunday, sell on Monday.... who cares that the product has nothing to do with the sports. Brand aura works... I'm all for it, they've created some spectacular videos for me to watch!
Dani Pedrosa is a legend. Riding a bike like this is like riding a bullet, and he always remained calm and smiling. The other people in their metal cans would never catch up with him
I was surprised the F1 car didn't pip the motogp bike o the line. Then again motogp bikes are built for cornering not acceleration. All these vehicles are built to carry the speed round bends Red bull dragster??
@@exup35 F1 cars are heavily reliant on downforce for grip. The very firm suspension also makes for very little weight transfer. Weight transfer onto the rear (driven) wheels is preferrable in a drag race. Motorcycles (in general, not even specific to GP bikes) have a tremendous amount of grip relative to their weight and power output. The problem with accelerating quickly on a very powerful motorcycle is trying to keep the front wheel on the ground so that you don't flip over backwards!
I would have loved to see the f1 car with say a 60mph rolling start. Once that downforce has kicked in and he can go full throttle its game over.@@noxious89123
This is where the weight=downforce kick in. Plus the gear ratios on those cars are oriented at max acceleration as they don't have the chance to go up to 300 km/h on their tracks. But when it starts to get to max speed and the downforce from the spoilers starts working the F1 gets away fast. The bike was the obvious winner due to powet-to-weight ratio, but in corners and on braking they are MUCH slower. If you compare max speed and lap times on the same tracks for F-1 and MotoGP, max speed is always higher for bikes while the lap times are always better in F-1, so imagine how much more efficient F-1 cars are in corners compared to bikes if they manage to win while having lower top speed
@@eckyx9019 f1 cars have a whole bunch of fia restrictions imposed on them. They must be a minimum weight, have a specific minimum width. They have to be 2-wheel driven, there are restrictions on fuel, chassis shape, engine, maximum downforce. There are limits on rpm, on power output, the engines have to be V6 hybrid (no v8), limits on fuel-flow rate, fuel-injection pressure, amount of fuel they can carry and about a million other limits - and the rules change practically every year, slowing the car down, while designers have to constantly find new ways to somehow get that speed back It's really much harder to make a fast f1 car that can be still be steered while following the fia rules than it is to make some vehicle that goes really fast.
@@vadimzubovich5537 That's not the reason. In fact, the higher the speed, the more downforce an F1 car produces, which equals MORE drag, terrible for top speed. For a drag race, you want less downforce and more mechanical grip to get you off the line. That's why the rally cars are quicker, because they need the increased mechanical grip due to the road surfaces they have to deal with. And they're AWD, versus the F1's RWD. But the F1 is so much more powerful that as soon as it can put the power down, it'll quickly ramp up it's acceleration. Also worth noticing that this kinda track surface is much lower grip than normal for an F1, which is why it's really slow off the line here. As for the bike, well, that's just pure power to weight, nothing's beating that.
@@Roman-po8yc yeah, they could make the cars much faster, but they need the rules. If they didn't have them, Mercedes would always win, cause they would always have the more powerful engines. Renault couldn't compete. The problem now, is that there are so many rules, all the cars end up looking the same
@@EmmysVerySeriousVideos it did go fast enough to generate down force around the mid of the the race. The problem is by that time it's about horsepower already which does not give F1 an edge much. If F1 car had the full down force since the start of the race it would dust other car by miles already.
@@GM-kj5xw how does that make the van’s performance any less impressive then ? It was able to outperform the F1 car both while accelerating and while maintaining speed, to me at least that’s remarkable.
@@EmmysVerySeriousVideos No im not taking anything from the Van. It is design for drag and it serve it purpose well. But the moment you use F1 as a comparison for drag race you are getting the fact wrong. F1 was never design for a drag race. There are far more powerful drag car out there that probably can out perform the Van by miles. So that's why the Van performance is not that remarkable in term of drag context.
Red Bull x Carwow are such an awesome duo. Hope you guys can continue making crazy uploads like these in the near future. And if I had to pick one of these to take for a spin, definitely the F1 Car, no questions!
I'd take the MotoGP bike without a doubt, riding a bike is a lot more involved than simply sitting in a car and steering a wheel, so much easier to mess up, you focus must be at 1000%, and if you do mess up, most of the time, you go down.
@@Presto_001 Yes, Matt really did a better job in the drag than the actual racing driver putting the 550 Hp WRC car ahead of the 600 Hp Rallycross car with its racing driver. 👏 The only thing left for Matt is to ride that Gp bike & drive that F1 car. 😅
@@rip.tear. Who said you that? The top speed of MotoGP bike is 367 kmph and that of F1 car is 371... There is no such 7% difference... And one more thing MotoGP bike attain that speed from base 80 kmph and F1 car around 180 kmph...
Most people in the comments (who dont ride bikes) have no idea just how much skill it takes to launch a bike that fast and win that kind of race, top tier respect for Dani Pedrosa!
Absolutely, When you think about the contact patch of the rear tyre on the road plus trying to keep the bikes front wheel down on the ground on initial launch, Dani had it nailed.
I have a ZZR1400 it takes extremely good skills to max the power And I can’t take out 50% of its potential, still I consider myself an experienced rider, been riding for 40 years, all kinds of bikes.
This is why bikers will always be the elite of the elite when it comes to motor sport. I go to watch the world superbikes every year with my dad. Phenomenal. They amaze me every year
Well, Dani is a legend, one of the best. Dani And that moto GP ... even the Nevera was in troubles. So cool to see Dani doing this, we need more stuff with Dani !!!!! 🤙
@@dmign What's your point ? Dani is an excellent rider + he's always been a nice guy loved by everyone in the paddock and fans. I'll always love him more than some multiple championship winners who are total dicks.
What about Matt Watsson. who managed to get a great start that eventually beaten the 600 HP Rally cross car. It looks like he is becoming a Red Bull driver.
My bike is about half that power and twice the weight, and it feels like a rocket ship. I can’t even fathom 4x the acceleration. Dani is definitely giving it everything, lifting the tire with every gear change!
Lol you can’t say it’s not the bike itself. Sure, I and most people wouldn’t come close to him on the same bike, but that bike is an engineering marvel and not even Dani would win on an average road legal liter bike. It’s the bike and the rider together, and same for the other vehicles. Also, you have no idea what the gear ratio/acceleration of his bike is. Assuming it’s a cruiser (twice the weight half the power), 4x is not a terrible approximation. A new Goldwing 1800 has those weight/power figures and is about 3x less acceleration 0-100mph, and older versions could certainly be 4x. Also, probably would be about 4x less acceleration if going to Goldwing’s too speed. You clearly don’t ride enough nor do enough math to be this condescending.
@@AbrahamArthemiusDamn, I remember it very well. So damn scary, thanks god he’s thinking fast and okay in the end. Happy to see he made history with Aprilia as well.
@@AbrahamArthemius What's even worse, that was part two of the Austria double header, with part one seeing both him and Valentino Rossi almost taken out by the crashing bikes of Franco Morbidelli and Johann Zarco. Then next year he was booted from Yamaha for taking his frustrations out on his bike at that same track. Vinales and Austria have a very spotty history.
The crazy part of motogp isn't the straight line speed like in this race it's the speed they take into the corners and the fact that they are leaning so close to the ground through the corners.
Dani Pedrosa es un driver super equilibrado , NO falla un cambio , y NO es fácil mantener línea y tracción con dos ruedas y esa relación peso - potencia....clase magistral de Dani , un máquina.
Reading internet comments since 2014 has made it clear that I am the only person on this planet who likes the sound of modern F1 engines. Somehow futuristic and spaceship like... Obviously the V8s, V10s and V12s sounded absolutely awesome, but I dont think the modern sound is bad in anyway.
If you watch the bike you can see that the front wheel frequently lifts a fraction indicating that it's barely in contact with the ground. The rider has it in a constant state of almost going into a wheelie. Great skill to keep that up. Maintaining control at the point of losing control.
@@margarita053the wheelie control keeps the front wheel just off the ground like you see in the video, that’s when a bike accelerates most efficiently.
There isn't a vehicle in existence that will ever match a MotoGP bike. Absolutely zero replacement for power to weight and a man that knows how to launch.
The ride height devices of MotoGP bikes really make them launch like a bat of out hell. Of course you need someone like Dani to extract the best out of the bike on the limit. ❤
Using the reference lap around Red Bull Ring Spielberg would be this result : Formula 1 2.4 V8 Engine = 1:13.425 by David Coulthard MotoGP 1000cc Engine = 1:22.643 by Jorge Martin The other 3 cars probably hit 1:30+ or near 2 minute laptime around that track.
@@rooztube because they are built to race there. put those cars on gravel though... or not as extreme - put them on some tarmac mountain roads and you see why Rally1 car has this big wing and this gear ratio.
@@blackcitadel37yeah, some crazy dude did 400kmh on a bridge with a stock Kawasaki H2R (with a bigger sprocket i think). You can look it up here in YT.
People pass 400 easily turbo busas in a standingile. The late Bill Warner has clocked over 500kmh (311mph) on his 1000rwhp turbo busa in a standing 1 and a half miles(@@blackcitadel37
@@blackcitadel37jack Jarrod frost, guy Martin, becci Ellis, Philippe la Peru, Chris burns, and so many riders from u.k and u.s have already reached well over 400 kph on a motorcycle.
Rally Cars put all their performance for acceleration. High top speeds aren't that useful in the twisty roads although going 200+kph on dirt/gravel ain't nothing to sneeze at.
Motogp bikes are insane... Kudos to Danny!! But the fact that the F1 car is from 2012, more than decade old and still goes head to head with the latest racing machines is absolutely remarkable
@@0455Javi Give the V10 F1 cars like what Schumaker drove proper slicks and I've better the old gal would throttle the modern V6s. She certainly sounds far better.
Not really, this particular RedBull F1 from 2012 actually sucks both at launch and at top speed. The 2004 Renault F1 (that was on TopGear show with Stig and had TC, remember?) would have beaten the MotoGP, and i am not shiting you. Honestly this 2012 F1 RB8 makes F1 drag racing look bad.
Dani is THAT GUY! The best to ever do it without winning a 500cc or Moto GP championship, though he was a 2x 250cc champ and a 125 cc champ he always came 2nd to Rossi and gang. Even @ 37 he showed he is still a BEAST in his 2 wildcard rides this year. I miss seeing him line up on Sundays.
@@mshahrulhishammdsharom1497 and to think hes gonna be sacrificed to a satellite team if stoner keeps playing cause aint no way honda is gonna miss out on marc marquez
Oh yeah, that is the absolute truth! there is no one more deserving to be motoGP champ than this guy. And he is so humble as well. Good luck to Dani this year.
Yup a Normal Person Who can Drive a Car can Drive a Rally Car After a Simple Lecture and Some Practice in a Straight line, But Believe Me No Normal Could ever Drive a Motogp Without Months of Preparation even in just a Straight line
You can totally see that front tire perfectly touching and barely lifting off at times, but just for an instant. He putting the perfect amount of power to get max acceleration and speed yet not enough to pop the wheel up (which would obviously do the opposite of what he wants)
Dani is a very talented rider, a true professional. He's also about 100lbs, and had an absolute huge advantage in the straights compared to other motogp riders, to the point when he retired motogp used it as a factor in considering a weight combination rule. This whole thing played into his strengths quite well. On a prepped race surface the e-transit van and the f1 would have had the bike. Both were held back by traction since they cant weight shift like the bike, and had to accelerate their mass. If the F1 had traction control, there would also have been an interesting race.
Siento decir que las motos actuales de moto GP tienen programado en la centralita la salida y junto a una palanca en el manillar que impide que la moto no se levante de la parte delantera en la salida , ofreciendo todo el par posible a la trasera. Dani ya demostró ser un grande y ha hecho grandes salidas sin estar implantado este sistema más moderno en moto GP cuando el corria.
My jaw dropped when the van was matching a F1 car's speed. actually insane! Would love to see all these make a few laps on an actual circuit to compare some lap times! Great video
For F1 cars it is important to warm up the tires to get full speed. With warmed up soft tires they can go up to 360 km/h. But here we had extreme wheelspin because of not warm enough hard tires. But yeah, the supervan was extremely fast.
Imagine a V1 race instead, that be interesting to watch, especially with takeovers and seeing if the ol’ switcherroo would also occur with van racing. 😂
It can’t be downplayed at how quick modern WRC cars are now. 10 years ago it would’ve been smoked by everything there, now it’s genuinely keeping pace with a Rallycross cars and an F1 car for a short distance. The runway surface doesn’t help the F1 car, but even so. Very quick.
it makes sense tho, rally stages mostly happen below 200 km/h (125 mph roughly) so the trick is acceleration and maintaining as close to 200 km/h in EVERY possible situation on public roads.
There is also the misconception that Group B vehicles still beat WRC cars due to their higher power rating. That WAS true until roughly 2012-2015, when really extreme aero kits were allowed and the power cap was raised. By 2021, the technology on suspension, tires, engine, aero and materials had advanced so much that despite being capped at 380hp (compared to Group B's 500hp), WRC was beating those old cars by A LOT.
@@luisvilleda4616 It could have been either a Lancia Delta S4 or an Audi Quattro S1 E2. Both at the peak of Group B in 1985 were speed monsters. However, that can be questionably true even today if you check the video; rally cars (WRC and Gr.B both) have AWD and short gearboxes (unlike F1's >300km/h speeds, rally cars are only expected to reach around 220km/h), so they have an insane acceleration at lower speeds. A 550hp Gr.B car could very well beat or match a 700hp F1 car of the same era if the track has enough corners (both cars also had similar aero in 1985).
Great to see Dani! Its a shame injuries ended up hampering his MotoGP career, he was an absolute monster in the 125cc and 250cc classes in the early 00's.
Thats not Ricciardo, Its Liam Lawson. Because Ricciardo got injured binning it on a practice. How lame. And people still praise him. Ridiculous. Overrated driver. That being said i hope he recovers well. And good luck. But i would keep Lawson in Alpha tauri instead of ´putting back Ric
@@Yu-ChengLiang-s7z yeah... You are right about that, i know, but salty me wanted to make this about Ric. I cant stand the hype around him. I mean Mclaren decided to pay him and not have him as a driver. And people still think bro will perform better than Perez.
F1 car can't generate enough grip on it own weight alone because they are so light. So at the start of the race they pretty much have 0 grip. The grip come when down force kicks in later in the race. You can see once it kicked in F1 immediately lunch forward. So if we assume that F1 is going to have a downforce active since the beginning it would dust all the other vehicle in this race by miless
@@GM-kj5xw f1 cars not rly made for drag races they are made for high cornering speed on racetracks. If it comes to cornering no other vehilce has a chance to keep up even the Supermoto has no chance in that point cause you have a massive disadvantage on only 2 tires compared to 4 tyres and a car desgn which is exactly made for corners.
@@iplayz1191 There is a faster F1 car though and tire setup they could've used. Keep in mind this was the RB8, also on a dookie surface. They definitely turned it up and got some actual heat in the tires for that third race, it hooked up good. Surprisingly they've gotten really good at dealing low grip on launches. Traction control has come a long way, it's even used in actual drag racing. Tire compounds are crazy too, also the suspension (it's hard to tell) does "load" up the rear tires. They're designed that way, so they do still have the capability of a nasty dead hook launch. Mostly about the surface here, if this was a prepped sticky surface, that thing would dead hook. **on softer tires.
@@Chris-lj6xlnice cope, that safety cage should be called a virgin cage. F1 nerds mentals are decimated and it's by far the worst Motorsport in existence right now.
@@thanksskeletor4812"virgin cage" like you the one who would survive a crash at least 200kmph. Netflix has made a whole series about F1 racing. You are a caveman and it's showing sybau and come out.
Yeah that thing is as aerodynamic as a brick compared to a hyper optimized F1 car ...and still it beat it. Just shows how utterly superior Electric is to ICE ... It's just the fan boys and the oil industry that don't want to let go yet
@@chriscaswell1212 Electric motors win on efficiency, power per weight, and they don't have to spin up nearly as much dead mass as an ICE. Top-speed, straight-line wise, gasoline engines probably benefit a lot from being able to burn off the entire weight of their battery, but what American doesn't want a heavier car to begin with?
@@nodafy 125cc champion in 2003 2x time 250cc champion in 2004 & 2005 But he was unlucky and I think he deserved at least one MotoGP championship, at least he was fighting with the best (Lorenzo, Rossi & Stoner)
Dani Pedrosa never won a World Championship in Moto GP but he really deserved to win a couple. Now we can see how Honda HRC goes aimlessly when he left. A great pilot and person. 26🏁🏍🏆
yeah i know, i wish he won a championship in his career cause he was one of my favorite motogp riders decades in the early 2010-2015 forward until he retired when he was racing with casey stoner, lorenzo, rossi, also he seems like a cool humble dude.
TOTAL jump start on pass 1! And doesn't surprise in the least that the bike wins... Insane HP to weight ratio.... Others have more HP but weigh way more.
1.85 lbs for every 1 hp assuming a body weight of 150 lbs. Its crazy to think about but a bone stock gsxr10000r with a 150lbs rider would be at 2.98lbs/1hp and Anyone can buy one! Delete the rear foot pegs and stock rear fender, swap to a much lighter wheel, and swap to a light weight performance exhaust. Have it professionally tuned and you can now beat $500k+ cars.... if you can control it all 😊
@@Lronhoyabembe I used to have a Honda 600RR. Not even the fastest bike out there, but anyone who thought their car was fast would try to race me. Half the time I could smoke them with one hand, not even bothering to downshift. There was only one time, a Toyota Supra went flying past me. I sped up and maintained, but didn't close any distance on him.
@@huntstyle yea my buddy wanted to race me with his scat vs my gsxr600. 0-60 I win, to 100 I win, to 135 I win eventually I started to slow down and his top end is higher than my 600 so he got around me because there was enough road but let's be honest. How often you going to have more than a mile of wide open Mexican highway to mess around on?
@@redbull Please, fans are looking forward to see the proper 2021 Rb16B F1 car on Carwow next time against the Rimac Nevera & the others Matt will have on the show. That could be a proper way to gauge the F1 car to these modern battery cars today. 👏
@@clutchnorris3892TT riders😂😂😂😂.. TT racing isn't more than a drag race.... I would like to see a 45° turn on a TT road.. If you see there are more crashes in motogp than TT because Motogp riders are every time on limits...
At about 2/3 of the way through the drag race the F1 car gets the downforce it needs and starts pulling but it's too late. Love seeing that the rally cars can keep up or even beat everyone just for a sec off the line. All that horsepower and AWD with crazy traction tires will do that. Motorcycle has an amazing power to weight ratio and I'm surprised it's aerodynamic flaws wouldn't hurt it more later on. Awesome to see thanks for making this for us!
I am soo glad he did this race with a pro rider like Dani on the motorcycle. I saw one of "car wow's" races that included a supersport bike, and they had a mediocre rider, which in turn made the bike look like "it's soo slow"... to get the performance out a bike, you need a highly skilled and experienced rider like Dani to show you what a bike can do!!! Big thumbs up to Dani Pedrosa!!!
Unluckiest GP rider of all time. Always falling to injuries during his good seasons. Doesn’t help that he was riding in an era of monsters like Rossi, Stoner and later Marquez
Mind-blowing! Watching the F1 Car, MotoGP Bike, and Rally Car go head-to-head was pure excitement. It's incredible to see the different machines in action, each showcasing its unique power and agility. Definitely a race worth watching on repeat!
Well, the four wheel drive vehicles have an advantage on the takeoff with the added traction. Now add a few turns and some uneven ground and you'll see where each fails as well.
that was intense! I think, Dani is also the most accomplished of them all-which definitely helps. it's super easy to lose just half a second at the start; but even this makes for a visible difference at the end of the race at 200+ kph
as a rough estimate: 360 kph equals 100 meters per second. so, at the end, they probably cover 60 meters in a second; or thirty in one half; which equates to six car lengths.
@@georgehelliar well, I'd say yes. there's less endurance races and the standing start definitely isn't as important since, well, it's not even a thing. but most importantly, he only showed up for one extra round and then in a vehicle he usually doesn't drive (as opposed to Dani.) so, in this regard/sense, I'd argue even against Romain, yes.
Dani's main problem (and great skill) is keeping the front wheel somewhere close to the ground. He couldn't use max power until he got into the upper gears. Moto GP riders know exactly how much power to give the rear tire in order to keep the front tire an inch or so off the ground for max traction and acceleration.
@@31keyser43 you can't even launch a bicycle properly I bet $2000 It's far harder to even launch a 600cc bike or 1000cc bikes MotoGP bike is hardest to launch All of them can flip over your clown if you tried to launch them It requires skill most important thing is the clutch
child, all modern motogp bikes (and commercial literbikes) have anti-wheelie traction control that will keep the front wheel from getting more than an inch or two off the tarmac - combined with a modern slipper clutch it's actually incredibly easy to launch them and hit every shift perfectly
@@usernameunavoidable I've got a 1000cc Kawasaki, and trust me, it is harder to keep the front wheel on the ground than off it. Change your comment from 'all' to 'some', and you might have some credibility. Calling people child when your own words demonstrate your own ignorance, is a bit rich.
@@guswrethman2156 my post was about the ubiquitousness of traction and wheelie control in >modern motoGP< bikes, and had nothing to say about your 20 year old Ninja your inability to correctly read and interpret the things others write is a reflection of your ineptitude, not of my (alleged) lack of credibility or knowledge💅
i always want to see a showdown between MotoGP and F1. from several videos that i watch, it's clear F1 car at the beginning have slower acceleration compared with other vehicles,but when it start to pickup it's tempo,it will steadily go fast and faster. this is very exciting to see
Just today I saw an interview with Lewis Hamilton where he mentioned that F1 cars are not that fast in straights but it can cut corners faster than most fast cars.
@@B0RlS there's a crazy EV with some massive fans that suck it down onto the road that can corner like crazy, wonder how the F1 would go against it.. Probably too brutal a G force to have a safe race though.
@@Grievance_Studies_Affair_2018woudlnt make a difference. The bike was pulling away from everything, you can see it pulling away from the transit as the transit from reeling in and overtaking the F1 car. Sure the F1 decimates all on track but in a straight line bike will always come out on top. An 30k m1000rr reels in this same car from a roll race on the carwow channel and thats nowhere near motogp speed
@@whatbruz4202 I mean sure? If you want to give them enough space and time you could rig a test so that the vehicle with the higher top speed wins. But how is that particularly meaningful or interesting?
@@pianissimo7121 The van definitely beat the F1 car. Electronic engines, if they're big enough, will almost always win a race like this. Look at the McMurghty, nothing on earth can beat that car's acceleration or traction.
Those MotoGP bikes really kick in once they get tractions, it's insane how fast they go. I figured they would be the winner but it was cool to see all the machinery together!
It's all about the horsepower to weight ratio, ...plus gear & final gear ratios, and then the wind resistance factor. The MotoGP bike clearly has all the advantage of each metric.
@@warped2875the only disadvantage is that it can’t accelerate with much more than 1g as it would do wheelie if it did, thats why it wasn’t fastest off the line but it could keep up the acceleration up to the end where the cars struggled with everything you mentioned.
Power to weight. Although it's the most unstable out of the bunch. No wonder riders need some exceptional skills to handle these bikes. I was impressed with that Ford E-van. I think it could be a lot faster if they can reduce the weight a bit more. I don't know how but if they can, it could be a lot faster. It's power output is even higher than the Rimac Nevera.
He was more than capable of being a Top Class Motogp World Champion, but unfortunately spent most of his career in the era of the Aliens... Rossi, Márquez, Lorenzo
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I think we all know that around a track the F1 car is unbeatable, the speed in which they take those corners and the stopping power is insane but in a straight line Power to weight ration usually takes the cake.
@@Mitchhhh It dependes heavily on the track and type of race. In a straight line like here, the bike will win. But put those two in an actual circuit and give them some laps to go and the f1 will eat the bike. The f1 is designed to take corners at a very high speed, and that's where it has a bigger chance.
I thought it was a new Carwow video but it's a Red Bull official video with Matt. Damn... It means more Red Bull related races on Carwow.. yess. Btw congratulations to both Max Verstappen and Red Bull Racing for making history, record 10th win.
The fact that Dani's job is to hold his bike back while all the car drivers just have to floor their cars really says it all. edit: I stand by my statement. Look at those clowns falling out of their car, mistaking parking brake for shifter.
You can't just floor it with any of these vehicles, they'll burn out. I don't know about the electric van, might have perfect launch control because it's electric. But the others sure gotta be careful on the throttle, one slip and you're out. Always a fine line between max possible throttle and keep grip. Very noticeable on the bike though, since it also wants to wheelie.
@@GoesWithTheFlow definitely not. F1 cars are tricky to launch because they will also stall if you're too careful. There's a clip when top gear tries to launch a F1 car, takes like 10 attempts to get rolling.
@@jollun4561 yep lol plus that f1 is like what? 11 years old? Used to be Vettel's car. A car that Liam definitely isn't used to be driving the new F1 cars are much different
the F1 and the Van were both traction limited by the race surface. The van has a comical power advantage, even with its huge weight. But it cant put it down on that runway. The f1 was spinning a lot too.
@@hyroproto4364 haha Moto GP bike destroyed Rimac Nevera in 2nd drag race and both rolling races Rematch again in no wind and proper racing circuit Moto GP bike is gonna beat Rimac even badly Carwow Concrete surface is horrible even F1 car was struggling a lot
I too would love to have a spin with these hot wheels. Gonna check out your vid as well. More luxurious cars makes me feel motivated seeing them and dreaming of owning one.
That's awesome! It sounds like you have a real passion for luxurious cars. I'd definitely be interested in checking out your video on 2023 luxurious cars, especially if you add some of these stunning cars to your list. It's always exciting to see what's new in the world of automotive luxury. Keep up the great work, and I can't wait to watch your video! 🚗
Any 1000cc bike will run 10s out the box,this things make 270/280 hp to the wheel and weigh 160kg, they're absolute rockets. They're hitting 360km/h on those tiny track straights!
Great to see the bike winning! Well done, Dani, you did us bikers proud! 👏👏👏 As George Orwell said, "Four wheels good, two wheels better" - or something like that! 😉
@@simonbrown140give me one example where on a road circuit where f1 cars race, a bike would be faster? Or are you just saying the bike is faster where it is impossible for the f1 car to drive? In which case bad argument
It sad Pedrosa had these injuries in the past.Such a good young guy.This guy was incredible , he was like a little boy riding a Huge Bike .My father loved him
if you had to pick, (if you HAD to) which one of these would you love to take for a spin? 🏁
Rally
Tough call, but we'd be lying if we said anything other than the M-Sport Puma!
F1, driving one has always been a dream
Rally car, you can use it almost anywhere...
Rally car
OK now let's do it again, on DIRT!
Well, let's be fair, F1 cars don't like airport concrete that isn't rubbered in. F1 car would have been way more competitive to the bike with sticky asphalt.
WRC 23 reference?
And if you make it a race track the f1 car will smash everyone.
Build a Top Fuel drag team too
Or in reverse....
The bike driver💀
Mad respect to red bull for bringing all this kit together and for sponsoring so many different categories of motorsport, sports, extreme sports and E-sports. Absolute legends.
Yes, but it wasn't all their kit yet. They have still got the Dakar Rally bike, cars & trucks. When they race on dirt. That will be the time we can see those machines against these cars aside for the MotoGP bike that will obviously crashes in the dirt & also F1 car that will have a massive wheelspin.
Going to look forward for that drag race dirt. I can't believe the WRC 550 HP car has beaten the 600 HP Rallycross car in this race. ☝️
@@leonwiddicombe8947 Win on Sunday, sell on Monday.... who cares that the product has nothing to do with the sports. Brand aura works... I'm all for it, they've created some spectacular videos for me to watch!
One of the best companies imo
We should drink more RedBull to support them.
@@TomVestvikfck no
Dani Pedrosa is a legend. Riding a bike like this is like riding a bullet, and he always remained calm and smiling. The other people in their metal cans would never catch up with him
YEP... 😃
It's so hard to control that sort of power with so little vehicle around it, too.
He would have been looking at the distant rear of a top fuel dragster each time!
@@tubedude54 Until the first corner
@@stew675 There are no corners in a drag race dude! lol
As someone said....the magic of a F1 car is not how fast it can go straight, but how insanely fast it can go around a curve.
+ Braking
F1 car beats all of these in 0-100-0 (maybe not the Moto GP)
I was surprised the F1 car didn't pip the motogp bike o the line. Then again motogp bikes are built for cornering not acceleration. All these vehicles are built to carry the speed round bends
Red bull dragster??
@@exup35 F1 cars are heavily reliant on downforce for grip. The very firm suspension also makes for very little weight transfer. Weight transfer onto the rear (driven) wheels is preferrable in a drag race. Motorcycles (in general, not even specific to GP bikes) have a tremendous amount of grip relative to their weight and power output. The problem with accelerating quickly on a very powerful motorcycle is trying to keep the front wheel on the ground so that you don't flip over backwards!
I would have loved to see the f1 car with say a 60mph rolling start. Once that downforce has kicked in and he can go full throttle its game over.@@noxious89123
I was 100% expecting the bike to win, but damn, it caught me off-guard just how much quicker off the line the rally cars were compared to the F1 car
Indeed....I thought the F1 car would have eaten them..
This is where the weight=downforce kick in. Plus the gear ratios on those cars are oriented at max acceleration as they don't have the chance to go up to 300 km/h on their tracks. But when it starts to get to max speed and the downforce from the spoilers starts working the F1 gets away fast. The bike was the obvious winner due to powet-to-weight ratio, but in corners and on braking they are MUCH slower. If you compare max speed and lap times on the same tracks for F-1 and MotoGP, max speed is always higher for bikes while the lap times are always better in F-1, so imagine how much more efficient F-1 cars are in corners compared to bikes if they manage to win while having lower top speed
@@eckyx9019 f1 cars have a whole bunch of fia restrictions imposed on them. They must be a minimum weight, have a specific minimum width. They have to be 2-wheel driven, there are restrictions on fuel, chassis shape, engine, maximum downforce. There are limits on rpm, on power output, the engines have to be V6 hybrid (no v8), limits on fuel-flow rate, fuel-injection pressure, amount of fuel they can carry and about a million other limits - and the rules change practically every year, slowing the car down, while designers have to constantly find new ways to somehow get that speed back
It's really much harder to make a fast f1 car that can be still be steered while following the fia rules than it is to make some vehicle that goes really fast.
@@vadimzubovich5537 That's not the reason. In fact, the higher the speed, the more downforce an F1 car produces, which equals MORE drag, terrible for top speed. For a drag race, you want less downforce and more mechanical grip to get you off the line. That's why the rally cars are quicker, because they need the increased mechanical grip due to the road surfaces they have to deal with. And they're AWD, versus the F1's RWD.
But the F1 is so much more powerful that as soon as it can put the power down, it'll quickly ramp up it's acceleration.
Also worth noticing that this kinda track surface is much lower grip than normal for an F1, which is why it's really slow off the line here. As for the bike, well, that's just pure power to weight, nothing's beating that.
@@Roman-po8yc yeah, they could make the cars much faster, but they need the rules. If they didn't have them, Mercedes would always win, cause they would always have the more powerful engines. Renault couldn't compete.
The problem now, is that there are so many rules, all the cars end up looking the same
It's the ULTIMATE Red Bull motorsports crossover 🤩
So where is the 2000 horsepower modified Nissan GT-R to smoke them all?
Love it
Redbull pls give me free energy drinks I drink your energy drink everyday
@@Seventh7ArtIf you would go to carwow, you would see that there is no chance for that mate, but fangoys gonna fanboy
The best ever,PLEASE MORE LIKE THIS❤
How is no one talking about that van casually beating the F1 car ?? Insane
F1 car rely heavily on the down force that generate grip. Once the down force kicks in, it swept pretty much any racing car on earth.
@@GM-kj5xw your point is it didn’t get to go fast enough to generate enough downforce ?
@@EmmysVerySeriousVideos it did go fast enough to generate down force around the mid of the the race. The problem is by that time it's about horsepower already which does not give F1 an edge much. If F1 car had the full down force since the start of the race it would dust other car by miles already.
@@GM-kj5xw how does that make the van’s performance any less impressive then ? It was able to outperform the F1 car both while accelerating and while maintaining speed, to me at least that’s remarkable.
@@EmmysVerySeriousVideos No im not taking anything from the Van. It is design for drag and it serve it purpose well. But the moment you use F1 as a comparison for drag race you are getting the fact wrong. F1 was never design for a drag race. There are far more powerful drag car out there that probably can out perform the Van by miles. So that's why the Van performance is not that remarkable in term of drag context.
Red Bull x Carwow are such an awesome duo. Hope you guys can continue making crazy uploads like these in the near future. And if I had to pick one of these to take for a spin, definitely the F1 Car, no questions!
Mat truly knows how to launch cars with all that experience over the years!
grip das motormagazin, officalgassed, misha chadourin 💪
To ride a MotoGP bike is my dream.... That will be dream come true, I really love bikes....
I'd take the MotoGP bike without a doubt, riding a bike is a lot more involved than simply sitting in a car and steering a wheel, so much easier to mess up, you focus must be at 1000%, and if you do mess up, most of the time, you go down.
@@Presto_001 Yes, Matt really did a better job in the drag than the actual racing driver putting the 550 Hp WRC car ahead of the 600 Hp Rallycross car with its racing driver. 👏
The only thing left for Matt is to ride that Gp bike & drive that F1 car. 😅
The power to weight ratio on MotoGP bikes is absolutely INSANE!
IKR it's like a Mike Tyson in a Bruce Lee body.
Power to weight ratio will usually win every time, simple physics.
@@thepainphantomexcept Bruce Lee was a Mike Tyson inside already.
@@smashingintoyouno
1,7 CV por kilo es brutal
imagine your full throttle in a f1 car and a van keeping pace to your right
Thats electric vehicles for you
electric vehicles can give 100% of the power instantly, gasolin vehicles can't
@@luissuarez8961 with 95% efficiency. Some like to forget that little detail.
It'd be disturbing for any dedicated rev head, that's for sure!
What'd be worse, if it was Joanna Lumley going to the shop for the bread and milk.
A van with over 2K horsepower lmao
F1 be like : Just give me a turn to prove who is fast
Rally car : now, let's race in the rally 💪
Also the rear wing of the F1 car is set incorrectly for max speed
@@hrishitajadhav2806
Still can't turn right 😂
@@tahmkench118wtf does that even mean lol. Or are you really confusing rally with nascar. How even
That power to weight ratio on the bike is unstoppable. Great race!
Unstoppable until the very top end. F1 is a faster machine not a quicker machine than the bike
@@ThePauliebuck A MotoGP bike will do 227mph and the fastest-ever F1 car is 246mph, 7% difference.
plus electronics allowing the wheel just to come up enough for maxium traction and those new motors are well north of 200 HP on a 400LB machine.
The F1 take the lead in any curve
@@rip.tear. Who said you that? The top speed of MotoGP bike is 367 kmph and that of F1 car is 371... There is no such 7% difference... And one more thing MotoGP bike attain that speed from base 80 kmph and F1 car around 180 kmph...
Most people in the comments (who dont ride bikes) have no idea just how much skill it takes to launch a bike that fast and win that kind of race, top tier respect for Dani Pedrosa!
Absolutely, When you think about the contact patch of the rear tyre on the road plus trying to keep the bikes front wheel down on the ground on initial launch, Dani had it nailed.
Must be more difficult for Dani as he only weighs the same as a damp towel 😅
I have a ZZR1400 it takes extremely good skills to max the power
And I can’t take out 50% of its potential, still I consider myself an experienced rider, been riding for 40 years, all kinds of bikes.
This is why bikers will always be the elite of the elite when it comes to motor sport. I go to watch the world superbikes every year with my dad. Phenomenal. They amaze me every year
Just realised my VMax had half his power...... 😮
Well, Dani is a legend, one of the best. Dani And that moto GP ... even the Nevera was in troubles. So cool to see Dani doing this, we need more stuff with Dani !!!!! 🤙
Nobody can have a drag race without Mat Watson 😂😂😂
True
Don't forget about Ryan either!
🥚sactly
you absolutely 100% right mate
Bro I was thinking the same... 💀👍
They don't call Dani a legend for no reason, he really is a legend.
how many motogp championships
@@dmign None, he is considered legend for pushing his limit for giving his best and smileing even if he didn't win any championship.
sordo
@@dmign What's your point ?
Dani is an excellent rider + he's always been a nice guy loved by everyone in the paddock and fans.
I'll always love him more than some multiple championship winners who are total dicks.
What about Matt Watsson. who managed to get a great start that eventually beaten the 600 HP Rally cross car.
It looks like he is becoming a Red Bull driver.
I saw the title and thought "taken a leaf out of Mat Watson's book!" and then within a few seconds THERE HE IS! Such an EPIC line-up
we couldn't make a drag race video without him 😉
it's the collab of all collabs 🙌
Was going to write exactly the same!
It was the thumbnail for me
Drag king!😂
0:12 Matt and Mat
My bike is about half that power and twice the weight, and it feels like a rocket ship. I can’t even fathom 4x the acceleration. Dani is definitely giving it everything, lifting the tire with every gear change!
It is not 4x acceleration. Get your maths right. Also it is not the bike itself it is the man on the bike.
@@_sneer_🤡
Lol you can’t say it’s not the bike itself. Sure, I and most people wouldn’t come close to him on the same bike, but that bike is an engineering marvel and not even Dani would win on an average road legal liter bike. It’s the bike and the rider together, and same for the other vehicles.
Also, you have no idea what the gear ratio/acceleration of his bike is. Assuming it’s a cruiser (twice the weight half the power), 4x is not a terrible approximation. A new Goldwing 1800 has those weight/power figures and is about 3x less acceleration 0-100mph, and older versions could certainly be 4x. Also, probably would be about 4x less acceleration if going to Goldwing’s too speed. You clearly don’t ride enough nor do enough math to be this condescending.
Yeah I’ve got an old 1000cc and it still scares the heck outta me. I can’t begin to imagine what a motogp bike would feel like 🤯
@@wiggenvan Good Reply
If you're a biker, you know the motogp bike will win before the video even starts
as long as there are no corners or braking zones...
@@GamezGuru1 when was the last time you saw a corner or braking zone on a 1/4 mile drag strip lol?
Or if you have a brain and understand power/weight ratio
MotoGP bike's 1000 cc, but it's lighter than a legal litre SBK.
If you know MotoGP, you know there's nothing faster off the line than a Dani Pedrosa.
The skill that takes to drive a bike that fast and controlling it is enough to, give this win Dani Pedrosa.
Wouldn't want to get it wrong....like if you were carrying a pillion passenger and they YANKED on the brake!!!!
Man, i still remember when Vinales had to bail out from his bike after a long straight a few years ago because of a brake failure. That was sketchy.
@@AbrahamArthemiusDamn, I remember it very well. So damn scary, thanks god he’s thinking fast and okay in the end. Happy to see he made history with Aprilia as well.
@@AbrahamArthemius What's even worse, that was part two of the Austria double header, with part one seeing both him and Valentino Rossi almost taken out by the crashing bikes of Franco Morbidelli and Johann Zarco.
Then next year he was booted from Yamaha for taking his frustrations out on his bike at that same track. Vinales and Austria have a very spotty history.
The crazy part of motogp isn't the straight line speed like in this race it's the speed they take into the corners and the fact that they are leaning so close to the ground through the corners.
Dani Pedrosa es un driver super equilibrado , NO falla un cambio , y NO es fácil mantener línea y tracción con dos ruedas y esa relación peso - potencia....clase magistral de Dani , un máquina.
Can’t beat the sound of the F1 car. Gets me every time.
music to our ears 😎
Today's F1 sound is a lot worse
The early 2000s v10s were the greatest ever 😩
Yea they need to fix that. Todays F1 cars sound less exciting than my lawnmower.
Reading internet comments since 2014 has made it clear that I am the only person on this planet who likes the sound of modern F1 engines. Somehow futuristic and spaceship like...
Obviously the V8s, V10s and V12s sounded absolutely awesome, but I dont think the modern sound is bad in anyway.
If you watch the bike you can see that the front wheel frequently lifts a fraction indicating that it's barely in contact with the ground. The rider has it in a constant state of almost going into a wheelie.
Great skill to keep that up. Maintaining control at the point of losing control.
wouldnt they have tc or anti-wheelie for that?
@@daddystu7046 they have but the power is too much. The anti-wheelie technology just helps, it doesnt actually stop a wheelie from happening.
@@margarita053the wheelie control keeps the front wheel just off the ground like you see in the video, that’s when a bike accelerates most efficiently.
Bike creams the lot due to power/weight advantage and bigger balls
@@geoffhill6992 Dani has broken so many bones over the years and he's still doing this. The dude is not messing around.
Damn Dani... The wheelie control device and the man himself are wonderful
he is wheelie fast 😉
@@redbull ....Get out
@@redbull 🤑
the winglets play a rather big part nowadays as well.
not really big part of keeping front wheel down, especially at a launch@@Philip_Michalke
There isn't a vehicle in existence that will ever match a MotoGP bike. Absolutely zero replacement for power to weight and a man that knows how to launch.
The ride height devices of MotoGP bikes really make them launch like a bat of out hell. Of course you need someone like Dani to extract the best out of the bike on the limit. ❤
It's crazy, it not even the 'fastest' straight line bike in the competition.
@@KireiAnimasiit's more of a torque beast not the fastest. Fastest don't actually needed on track
@@anveshn8609 i think he meant that the redbull bike is not even the fastest in straight line speed in motogp..its the ducatis
It’s the weight mainly. Easier to get that little mass moving compared to the other cars. Such an insane feat of engineering though!
Get Binder on his KTM.. currently speed record holder.
Would be interesting to let them all complete a lap around a track to compare times
Using the reference lap around Red Bull Ring Spielberg would be this result :
Formula 1 2.4 V8 Engine = 1:13.425 by David Coulthard
MotoGP 1000cc Engine = 1:22.643 by Jorge Martin
The other 3 cars probably hit 1:30+ or near 2 minute laptime around that track.
F1 cars always win on track
@@rooztube because they are built to race there. put those cars on gravel though... or not as extreme - put them on some tarmac mountain roads and you see why Rally1 car has this big wing and this gear ratio.
F1 everytime.
@@terkojakobson Yeah, but put a Rally car underwater and let's see how good it is.
We often forget that MotoGP riders sit on missiles.
For example in 2023, Brad Binder was clocked at 366.1 km/h on the Mugello circuit.
i wonder if anyone ever reached 400km/h+ in a bike, in a circuit or not.
@@blackcitadel37yeah, some crazy dude did 400kmh on a bridge with a stock Kawasaki H2R (with a bigger sprocket i think). You can look it up here in YT.
People pass 400 easily turbo busas in a standingile. The late Bill Warner has clocked over 500kmh (311mph) on his 1000rwhp turbo busa in a standing 1 and a half miles(@@blackcitadel37
@@blackcitadel37Kawasaki did, in San Fransisco
@@blackcitadel37jack Jarrod frost, guy Martin, becci Ellis, Philippe la Peru, Chris burns, and so many riders from u.k and u.s have already reached well over 400 kph on a motorcycle.
Da fan della Moto Gp degli anni d'oro... ti si vuole bene Dani! Bello vederti
I really love rally cars and I was surprised that they can perform this good on a straight track.
to go fast off road, you need to be fast on road as well 😉
Rally cars a have incredible 4 wheel drive systems and also antilag for its turbo so get almost instant power.
rallycars have insane traction, they accelerate to 100 kph in under 2sec
Anything longer than the 1/4 mile and they'll be topping out as they have short gear ratios
Rally Cars put all their performance for acceleration. High top speeds aren't that useful in the twisty roads although going 200+kph on dirt/gravel ain't nothing to sneeze at.
Motogp bikes are insane... Kudos to Danny!! But the fact that the F1 car is from 2012, more than decade old and still goes head to head with the latest racing machines is absolutely remarkable
an F1 from 30 years ago on a full track lap would still be in P1
@@IStMlagainst the other cars yeah but against modern f1 nah. Modern f1 are 10sec faster than 1993 f1
@@0455Javi Give the V10 F1 cars like what Schumaker drove proper slicks and I've better the old gal would throttle the modern V6s. She certainly sounds far better.
@@STAMPDesign but hamilton got the fastest in 2020.
Not really, this particular RedBull F1 from 2012 actually sucks both at launch and at top speed. The 2004 Renault F1 (that was on TopGear show with Stig and had TC, remember?) would have beaten the MotoGP, and i am not shiting you. Honestly this 2012 F1 RB8 makes F1 drag racing look bad.
Dani is THAT GUY! The best to ever do it without winning a 500cc or Moto GP championship, though he was a 2x 250cc champ and a 125 cc champ he always came 2nd to Rossi and gang. Even @ 37 he showed he is still a BEAST in his 2 wildcard rides this year. I miss seeing him line up on Sundays.
@AJ__Sachinhe wasn't wild carded there...
ALMOst win motogp in 2013
Unlucky he being hits by own team mate .
It takes freakin skill to not wheelie that bike at launch
Oh he never won? I stopped following moto GP many years ago.
Being a Rossi fan I never liked Pedrosa but I do feel sorry he never won.
@@mshahrulhishammdsharom1497 and to think hes gonna be sacrificed to a satellite team if stoner keeps playing cause aint no way honda is gonna miss out on marc marquez
3:21 Sound 😳
It's not just that the bike is so powerful and light, it's that Dani is a top level rider who knows how to put the power to the tarmac.
Oh yeah, that is the absolute truth! there is no one more deserving to be motoGP champ than this guy. And he is so humble as well. Good luck to Dani this year.
Yup a Normal Person Who can Drive a Car can Drive a Rally Car After a Simple Lecture and Some Practice in a Straight line, But Believe Me No Normal Could ever Drive a Motogp Without Months of Preparation even in just a Straight line
You can totally see that front tire perfectly touching and barely lifting off at times, but just for an instant. He putting the perfect amount of power to get max acceleration and speed yet not enough to pop the wheel up (which would obviously do the opposite of what he wants)
Dani is a very talented rider, a true professional. He's also about 100lbs, and had an absolute huge advantage in the straights compared to other motogp riders, to the point when he retired motogp used it as a factor in considering a weight combination rule. This whole thing played into his strengths quite well. On a prepped race surface the e-transit van and the f1 would have had the bike. Both were held back by traction since they cant weight shift like the bike, and had to accelerate their mass. If the F1 had traction control, there would also have been an interesting race.
Siento decir que las motos actuales de moto GP tienen programado en la centralita la salida y junto a una palanca en el manillar que impide que la moto no se levante de la parte delantera en la salida , ofreciendo todo el par posible a la trasera. Dani ya demostró ser un grande y ha hecho grandes salidas sin estar implantado este sistema más moderno en moto GP cuando el corria.
Super excited to see Dani’s wildcard MotoGP appearance! Long live the Samurai!!!
He is becoming Matt Watson's buddy. It wouldn't be surprising if we see him on Carwow more often driving a car alongside Matt, Yanni & Sam.
The world's greatest MotoGP rider to have never won the title! A legend for sure
Hey, Alonso is the Samurai, he even has it tattooed on his back.
@@mariusbarnardo5592but 2 x 250cc & 1x 125cc World Champion
@@aaronburke8892 a true legend.....
Mad respect for current motogp riders riding these rockets . Get well soon Pecco ❤❤❤
Apparently, he sustained only minor injuries and will be racing this weekend! It's a miracle it wasn't more serious, I feared for the guy.
That crash was horrifying, glad the injuries werent too serious!
@@TheRCScotsmani couldn’t watch the horror show so i turned off my tv. Glad hes ok. Thought his championship was done.
Rally pilots are more skilled
If Pecco landed 180 around it would have been a completely different story, I had flashbacks of the Marco crash, and I’m only watching in on TV.
Definitely didn't expect to see both Matts together in one video
My jaw dropped when the van was matching a F1 car's speed. actually insane!
Would love to see all these make a few laps on an actual circuit to compare some lap times!
Great video
In a circuit the F1 shines because of its curve speed. This is why it is the fattest car for circuits.
F1 cars are about how fast they can brake and how fast they can take curves.
(And of course, rally cars are about dirt and so on)
@manojlds what about corners?
For F1 cars it is important to warm up the tires to get full speed. With warmed up soft tires they can go up to 360 km/h. But here we had extreme wheelspin because of not warm enough hard tires. But yeah, the supervan was extremely fast.
@@Riesenradd1ebthey won't have had hard racing tyres on and they'll no doubt have had tyre warmers on.
That van is absolutely insane! The aero is so sick. Imagine driving a van as fast as a f1!
In the 90s there was a Van with an F1 engine. The Espace F1
Especially when it is nowhere near as fast fool
@@cultofpersonaliity69 also a 607 i think
Don't want to take any corners with it though :D
Imagine a V1 race instead, that be interesting to watch, especially with takeovers and seeing if the ol’ switcherroo would also occur with van racing. 😂
It can’t be downplayed at how quick modern WRC cars are now.
10 years ago it would’ve been smoked by everything there, now it’s genuinely keeping pace with a Rallycross cars and an F1 car for a short distance.
The runway surface doesn’t help the F1 car, but even so. Very quick.
it makes sense tho, rally stages mostly happen below 200 km/h (125 mph roughly) so the trick is acceleration and maintaining as close to 200 km/h in EVERY possible situation on public roads.
There is also the misconception that Group B vehicles still beat WRC cars due to their higher power rating. That WAS true until roughly 2012-2015, when really extreme aero kits were allowed and the power cap was raised. By 2021, the technology on suspension, tires, engine, aero and materials had advanced so much that despite being capped at 380hp (compared to Group B's 500hp), WRC was beating those old cars by A LOT.
Also the p208 WRX kept jumping the start like crazy. They are more equal, like in the first drag
There is a legend about a Group B Rally car that did a lap time at Estoril that could have made it mix with some Formula 1 cars
@@luisvilleda4616 It could have been either a Lancia Delta S4 or an Audi Quattro S1 E2. Both at the peak of Group B in 1985 were speed monsters.
However, that can be questionably true even today if you check the video; rally cars (WRC and Gr.B both) have AWD and short gearboxes (unlike F1's >300km/h speeds, rally cars are only expected to reach around 220km/h), so they have an insane acceleration at lower speeds. A 550hp Gr.B car could very well beat or match a 700hp F1 car of the same era if the track has enough corners (both cars also had similar aero in 1985).
Red Bull always promotes excellence! These races were very exciting. Nerves of steel, all racers, especially the biker, fearless. Thank you!
Great to see Dani! Its a shame injuries ended up hampering his MotoGP career, he was an absolute monster in the 125cc and 250cc classes in the early 00's.
Thats not Ricciardo, Its Liam Lawson. Because Ricciardo got injured binning it on a practice. How lame. And people still praise him. Ridiculous. Overrated driver. That being said i hope he recovers well. And good luck. But i would keep Lawson in Alpha tauri instead of ´putting back Ric
@@majortom4543 what are you talking about?
@@siddheshvasav9671 im talking about facts
@@majortom4543 He wasn't even talking about Ricciardo... if you watched the video he's talking about Dani Pedrosa, the one on the motogp bike...
@@Yu-ChengLiang-s7z yeah... You are right about that, i know, but salty me wanted to make this about Ric.
I cant stand the hype around him. I mean Mclaren decided to pay him and not have him as a driver. And people still think bro will perform better than Perez.
Mat is the official Drag Race daddy on Planet Earth, don't we all just love Dani :) Thank you Red Bull!
I could watch Dani launch on that bike all day. Just absolutely ridiculous. Great vid!
I really enjoy such kind of races. Dani is OG !
The van crossed the line the same time as the F1 car, never thought I would ever see that happen.
F1 cars are fast but they are built for handling and agility. On a track with even just 3 turns the van would get left behind pretty fast.
@@abrahamgideon In 3 turns the van just will get out of battery. 😁
F1 car can't generate enough grip on it own weight alone because they are so light. So at the start of the race they pretty much have 0 grip. The grip come when down force kicks in later in the race. You can see once it kicked in F1 immediately lunch forward. So if we assume that F1 is going to have a downforce active since the beginning it would dust all the other vehicle in this race by miless
@@GM-kj5xw f1 cars not rly made for drag races they are made for high cornering speed on racetracks. If it comes to cornering no other vehilce has a chance to keep up even the Supermoto has no chance in that point cause you have a massive disadvantage on only 2 tires compared to 4 tyres and a car desgn which is exactly made for corners.
@@iplayz1191 There is a faster F1 car though and tire setup they could've used. Keep in mind this was the RB8, also on a dookie surface. They definitely turned it up and got some actual heat in the tires for that third race, it hooked up good. Surprisingly they've gotten really good at dealing low grip on launches. Traction control has come a long way, it's even used in actual drag racing. Tire compounds are crazy too, also the suspension (it's hard to tell) does "load" up the rear tires. They're designed that way, so they do still have the capability of a nasty dead hook launch. Mostly about the surface here, if this was a prepped sticky surface, that thing would dead hook. **on softer tires.
This is one of many reasons why even F1-stars go to see MotoGP racing. Hats off to all the cars as well. Insane!
If only there had been one corner... ;)
@@Chris-lj6xl😂
@@Chris-lj6xlnice cope, that safety cage should be called a virgin cage. F1 nerds mentals are decimated and it's by far the worst Motorsport in existence right now.
@@Chris-lj6xlI can outcorner an f1 car on my superbike. Gtfo of here weirdo
@@thanksskeletor4812"virgin cage" like you the one who would survive a crash at least 200kmph. Netflix has made a whole series about F1 racing. You are a caveman and it's showing sybau and come out.
I slowed down the video and watched the replay at least three times to make sure I saw it correctly. 😂 that van is badass
Yeah that thing is as aerodynamic as a brick compared to a hyper optimized F1 car ...and still it beat it. Just shows how utterly superior Electric is to ICE ... It's just the fan boys and the oil industry that don't want to let go yet
@@baukepoelsma can't deny the sound tho right?
@@baukepoelsmaI mean, there are a lot of other factors haha 😅
@@chriscaswell1212 Electric motors win on efficiency, power per weight, and they don't have to spin up nearly as much dead mass as an ICE. Top-speed, straight-line wise, gasoline engines probably benefit a lot from being able to burn off the entire weight of their battery, but what American doesn't want a heavier car to begin with?
I'll never get tired of watching Dani win drag races on a Moto GP Bike.
Dani Pedrosa , one of the greatest motoGP rider.😊😊
Two weeks ago, he got the 4th as a wild card rider, though he had retired for a few years.
once a champion always a champion 💪
its marc marquez
@@redbull He's never been a champion
@@nodafy
125cc champion in 2003
2x time 250cc champion in 2004 & 2005
But he was unlucky and I think he deserved at least one MotoGP championship, at least he was fighting with the best (Lorenzo, Rossi & Stoner)
Dani Pedrosa never won a World Championship in Moto GP but he really deserved to win a couple. Now we can see how Honda HRC goes aimlessly when he left. A great pilot and person. 26🏁🏍🏆
yeah i know, i wish he won a championship in his career cause he was one of my favorite motogp riders decades in the early 2010-2015 forward until he retired when he was racing with casey stoner, lorenzo, rossi, also he seems like a cool humble dude.
I 100% agree, Dani deserves at least one championship.
He just done a wildcard in MotoGp and came 4th. Absolutely insane result after all these years of being retired.
TOTAL jump start on pass 1! And doesn't surprise in the least that the bike wins... Insane HP to weight ratio.... Others have more HP but weigh way more.
Dani really had crazy adrenaline, going that fast without seatbelts.. The power to weight ratio on MotoGP bikes is absolutely INSANE!.
1.85 lbs for every 1 hp assuming a body weight of 150 lbs. Its crazy to think about but a bone stock gsxr10000r with a 150lbs rider would be at 2.98lbs/1hp and Anyone can buy one! Delete the rear foot pegs and stock rear fender, swap to a much lighter wheel, and swap to a light weight performance exhaust. Have it professionally tuned and you can now beat $500k+ cars.... if you can control it all 😊
@@Lronhoyabembe I used to have a Honda 600RR. Not even the fastest bike out there, but anyone who thought their car was fast would try to race me. Half the time I could smoke them with one hand, not even bothering to downshift. There was only one time, a Toyota Supra went flying past me. I sped up and maintained, but didn't close any distance on him.
@@huntstyle yea my buddy wanted to race me with his scat vs my gsxr600. 0-60 I win, to 100 I win, to 135 I win eventually I started to slow down and his top end is higher than my 600 so he got around me because there was enough road but let's be honest. How often you going to have more than a mile of wide open Mexican highway to mess around on?
they lean at like 60 degress + too. They lean so far over that if the bike was stopped on a stand at 60 degrees over you couldn't get on it.
@@cmyers8907 What's a fender delete have to do with going fast? lol
I see Mat, I click 😂
Damn this lineup is insane 🔥
That RB8 tho, never gets old 🥵🔊
the RB8 sounds like a naturally aspirated symphony 🎼
@@redbull Hallelujah...! 😌
Renault RS27 V8
But they didn't show Mat until the video started so how did you see him before you clicked?
@@redbull Please, fans are looking forward to see the proper 2021 Rb16B F1 car on Carwow next time against the Rimac Nevera & the others Matt will have on the show.
That could be a proper way to gauge the F1 car to these modern battery cars today. 👏
MotoGP pilots are just the craziest guys in motorsport....
incredible athletes 💪
Nah the craziest are TT riders but these guys are still damn crazy
@@clutchnorris3892TT riders😂😂😂😂.. TT racing isn't more than a drag race.... I would like to see a 45° turn on a TT road.. If you see there are more crashes in motogp than TT because Motogp riders are every time on limits...
@@salttea8926 He said "crazy." How many deaths are in the TT compared to MotoGP? Which drivers are crazier then?
@@redbullno athletes pilots of streets
At about 2/3 of the way through the drag race the F1 car gets the downforce it needs and starts pulling but it's too late. Love seeing that the rally cars can keep up or even beat everyone just for a sec off the line. All that horsepower and AWD with crazy traction tires will do that. Motorcycle has an amazing power to weight ratio and I'm surprised it's aerodynamic flaws wouldn't hurt it more later on. Awesome to see thanks for making this for us!
I am soo glad he did this race with a pro rider like Dani on the motorcycle. I saw one of "car wow's" races that included a supersport bike, and they had a mediocre rider, which in turn made the bike look like "it's soo slow"... to get the performance out a bike, you need a highly skilled and experienced rider like Dani to show you what a bike can do!!! Big thumbs up to Dani Pedrosa!!!
Strange, they usually have pretty damn good riders whenever they bring a bike to one of their drag races.
The launch of MotoGP bike, when it got traction, is absolutely insane! It's like fighter jet switching afterburners on.
Man the sound of MotoGP Bike and F1 combined is just music to ears, but that van was freaking insane in speed 🔥
Jack Miller said it - "there's a reason he's [Dani] a legend".
Dani is a hero, a fine sportsman and an amazing talent. Should have been MotoGp champ many times over.
Unluckiest GP rider of all time. Always falling to injuries during his good seasons. Doesn’t help that he was riding in an era of monsters like Rossi, Stoner and later Marquez
@@zackong2800he's a great technician now
Any meatball with more balls than brains can tape the throttle. It's the corners that count.
@@zackong2800 huge respect for Dani. He would have won a title or two if not for HRC totally catering to Marq imo at the time...
Mind-blowing! Watching the F1 Car, MotoGP Bike, and Rally Car go head-to-head was pure excitement. It's incredible to see the different machines in action, each showcasing its unique power and agility. Definitely a race worth watching on repeat!
Well, the four wheel drive vehicles have an advantage on the takeoff with the added traction. Now add a few turns and some uneven ground and you'll see where each fails as well.
that was intense!
I think, Dani is also the most accomplished of them all-which definitely helps.
it's super easy to lose just half a second at the start; but even this makes for a visible difference at the end of the race at 200+ kph
as a rough estimate: 360 kph equals 100 meters per second.
so, at the end, they probably cover 60 meters in a second; or thirty in one half; which equates to six car lengths.
More accomplished than 3 time le mans winner Romain Dumas? They're both pretty handy
@@georgehelliar well, I'd say yes. there's less endurance races and the standing start definitely isn't as important since, well, it's not even a thing. but most importantly, he only showed up for one extra round and then in a vehicle he usually doesn't drive (as opposed to Dani.)
so, in this regard/sense, I'd argue even against Romain, yes.
1:55 - these two sounds (MotoGP and Formula 1) are my entire childhood
🏍️🏎️🏁🥲
Who would have thought 11 years ago that a van would be as fast as a V8 F1 car (in a straight line)
the Renault Espace F1 crew would like to have a word with you 😉
Only cause it's hard-core moded they have lots of money to spend
that's a people mover, not a van! ;)
@@HxTurtle
@@conradtimms1510 what do you think a van is?
Renault Espace is a people mover, Ford Transit is a van. Those are just facts, and nothing to do with what you or I might
think. @@HxTurtle
Dani's main problem (and great skill) is keeping the front wheel somewhere close to the ground. He couldn't use max power until he got into the upper gears. Moto GP riders know exactly how much power to give the rear tire in order to keep the front tire an inch or so off the ground for max traction and acceleration.
No skill just anti-wheeling device…
@@31keyser43 you can't even launch a bicycle properly I bet $2000 It's far harder to even launch a 600cc bike or 1000cc bikes
MotoGP bike is hardest to launch
All of them can flip over your clown if you tried to launch them
It requires skill most important thing is the clutch
child, all modern motogp bikes (and commercial literbikes) have anti-wheelie traction control that will keep the front wheel from getting more than an inch or two off the tarmac - combined with a modern slipper clutch it's actually incredibly easy to launch them and hit every shift perfectly
@@usernameunavoidable I've got a 1000cc Kawasaki, and trust me, it is harder to keep the front wheel on the ground than off it. Change your comment from 'all' to 'some', and you might have some credibility. Calling people child when your own words demonstrate your own ignorance, is a bit rich.
@@guswrethman2156 my post was about the ubiquitousness of traction and wheelie control in >modern motoGP< bikes, and had nothing to say about your 20 year old Ninja
your inability to correctly read and interpret the things others write is a reflection of your ineptitude, not of my (alleged) lack of credibility or knowledge💅
i always want to see a showdown between MotoGP and F1. from several videos that i watch, it's clear F1 car at the beginning have slower acceleration compared with other vehicles,but when it start to pickup it's tempo,it will steadily go fast and faster. this is very exciting to see
MotoGP bike is certainly a faster machine but an F1 car will beat it in the curves as it won't need to slow down as much to take it safely.
@@marinodejesus8024yeah, just around the corner
There is no such track which has 3 km long straight....😂
In a real track, the f1 car is the fastest vehicle in the world.
@@henriquebruno2696 is that not real track? Lol, f1 cannot compare with MotoGP.
Can’t have a UA-cam car video without that Watson pal. Come one please.
Just today I saw an interview with Lewis Hamilton where he mentioned that F1 cars are not that fast in straights but it can cut corners faster than most fast cars.
the crazy thing about F1 cars is that they're even more special at high speeds 😉
It can cut corners faster than any other cars or bikes for that matter
@@B0RlS there's a crazy EV with some massive fans that suck it down onto the road that can corner like crazy, wonder how the F1 would go against it.. Probably too brutal a G force to have a safe race though.
If we're honest the RB8 wasn't that fast acceleration wise, get a current F1 car and it would smoke it
@@--Nath-- mcmurtry ,right? matt from carwow has a great video with it.
Didn't just get beaten by the bike - it DESTROYED the field! Dani you are a legend sir!
The way that MotoGP bike pulls once it can put its full power down gives me shivers
But ktm still has grip problems, i always hear binder complaining about the rear spinning too much. Imagine if they fixed that🤯
Shame they didn't do rolling start. Obviously F1 had problems with traction off the line.
@@Grievance_Studies_Affair_2018woudlnt make a difference. The bike was pulling away from everything, you can see it pulling away from the transit as the transit from reeling in and overtaking the F1 car. Sure the F1 decimates all on track but in a straight line bike will always come out on top. An 30k m1000rr reels in this same car from a roll race on the carwow channel and thats nowhere near motogp speed
@@ashofficial790f1 cars have a higher recorded top speed and a faster 0-200km:h time so think again
@@whatbruz4202 I mean sure? If you want to give them enough space and time you could rig a test so that the vehicle with the higher top speed wins. But how is that particularly meaningful or interesting?
these 2 legends of totally different fields actually met. I am enjoying this so much
Holy cow .. that van had some serious speed 😮
but how many parcels can it carry? 😉
@@redbullmore than anyone else in the race I'd say
@@redbull who won between the Van and F1 car? Either my eyes are bad or thats a photofinish to which we didnt get the photo!
@@pianissimo7121 The van definitely beat the F1 car. Electronic engines, if they're big enough, will almost always win a race like this. Look at the McMurghty, nothing on earth can beat that car's acceleration or traction.
@@pianissimo7121 The van won. If you pause on 5:19 you can clearly see it passed the line first but at normal speed it's not easy to tell.
Those MotoGP bikes really kick in once they get tractions, it's insane how fast they go. I figured they would be the winner but it was cool to see all the machinery together!
they're like a rocket😅 on 2 wheels
It's all about the horsepower to weight ratio, ...plus gear & final gear ratios, and then the wind resistance factor. The MotoGP bike clearly has all the advantage of each metric.
@@redbullDon't forget the racism 😈🔥😈🇩🇪🇦🇹
@@Perfil.1like a racist on two wheels 😅
@@warped2875the only disadvantage is that it can’t accelerate with much more than 1g as it would do wheelie if it did, thats why it wasn’t fastest off the line but it could keep up the acceleration up to the end where the cars struggled with everything you mentioned.
Nothing beats a Moto GP bikes in terms of acceleration Dani is absolutely a beast precise launch every single time woohoo!!
Power to weight. Although it's the most unstable out of the bunch. No wonder riders need some exceptional skills to handle these bikes.
I was impressed with that Ford E-van. I think it could be a lot faster if they can reduce the weight a bit more. I don't know how but if they can, it could be a lot faster. It's power output is even higher than the Rimac Nevera.
Well
Everytime they do one of these on carwow, they should bring a MotoGP rider for the bike 😂😂😂😂
Here there and gone 😂😂
Pedrosa made so much of my childhood man
Dani is such a great Rider.. Amazing to see what he can brings with this MotoGP Bike !!
He was more than capable of being a Top Class Motogp World Champion, but unfortunately spent most of his career in the era of the Aliens... Rossi, Márquez, Lorenzo
@@manuelrodriguez2637 😇😇😇
Dani sliced the competition like a true Samurai!
😂😂😂😂
Race Ninja…
And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.
John 6:35 Jesus can save from depression!😊😊
Mat is the best drag racing driver
Matt jumps the start EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. on every video I've ever seen.
I think we all know that around a track the F1 car is unbeatable, the speed in which they take those corners and the stopping power is insane but in a straight line Power to weight ration usually takes the cake.
Is a f1 car actually faster than a moto gp bike? 😅
yes@@Mitchhhh
@@Mitchhhh It dependes heavily on the track and type of race. In a straight line like here, the bike will win. But put those two in an actual circuit and give them some laps to go and the f1 will eat the bike.
The f1 is designed to take corners at a very high speed, and that's where it has a bigger chance.
😮 so bike wins in straight line and F1 in curves, I see. I thought F1 will reach top speed first than other vehicles.
And the van wins the soccer mom race to the playground.🛝
Wow this is totally insanely fast!!! Never thought MotoGP could be this crazily fast!!! Huge love to that MotoGP driver.
I thought it was a new Carwow video but it's a Red Bull official video with Matt. Damn... It means more Red Bull related races on Carwow.. yess. Btw congratulations to both Max Verstappen and Red Bull Racing for making history, record 10th win.
0:20 congrats to Liam for his seat!
The fact that Dani's job is to hold his bike back while all the car drivers just have to floor their cars really says it all.
edit: I stand by my statement. Look at those clowns falling out of their car, mistaking parking brake for shifter.
The f1 definitely doesn't floor it from the start
You can't just floor it with any of these vehicles, they'll burn out. I don't know about the electric van, might have perfect launch control because it's electric. But the others sure gotta be careful on the throttle, one slip and you're out. Always a fine line between max possible throttle and keep grip. Very noticeable on the bike though, since it also wants to wheelie.
@@GoesWithTheFlow definitely not. F1 cars are tricky to launch because they will also stall if you're too careful. There's a clip when top gear tries to launch a F1 car, takes like 10 attempts to get rolling.
@@jollun4561 yep lol plus that f1 is like what? 11 years old? Used to be Vettel's car. A car that Liam definitely isn't used to be driving the new F1 cars are much different
@@GoesWithTheFlow Exactly. David Coulthard does better launches I reckon
It was pretty obvious the bike would win. But I'm very surprised about that large van that got second (together with the F1 car) in the last race.
the F1 and the Van were both traction limited by the race surface. The van has a comical power advantage, even with its huge weight. But it cant put it down on that runway. The f1 was spinning a lot too.
This race was so much fun to watch! Amazing how fast the MotoGP bike is....and how good that old F1 car sounds!
But didn't this MotoGP bike got smoked by the Rimak?
@@hyroproto4364The Rimac is an electric, 4-wheeled hypercar. It of course has better acceleratiln.
@@hyroproto4364 no one got smoked lol.....rimac did 1/4 mile in 8.5 sec ,while the bike did it in 8.6 sec on carwow.....It was very close
MotoGP bike was closing the gap aswel got beat on the launch
@@hyroproto4364 haha Moto GP bike destroyed Rimac Nevera in 2nd drag race and both rolling races
Rematch again in no wind and proper racing circuit
Moto GP bike is gonna beat Rimac even badly
Carwow Concrete surface is horrible even F1 car was struggling a lot
Is it difficult to leave the camera stationary in a place where it can show the cars coming and another showing the start?
Wow! I'd love to take any of these cars for a spin I actually made a video on 2023 LUXURIOUS CARS. I'll add them on my list 🔥🔥🔥
Super cool! I agree with you
Great idea, keep going!
Agreed, these pro race cars are so cool🔥
I too would love to have a spin with these hot wheels. Gonna check out your vid as well. More luxurious cars makes me feel motivated seeing them and dreaming of owning one.
That's awesome! It sounds like you have a real passion for luxurious cars. I'd definitely be interested in checking out your video on 2023 luxurious cars, especially if you add some of these stunning cars to your list. It's always exciting to see what's new in the world of automotive luxury. Keep up the great work, and I can't wait to watch your video! 🚗
I have a newfound appreciation for motoGP. I never realized just how fast those bikes are!
they look slow on TV 😅
@@redbull Definitely. They just don't fill the circuits out as much as f1, so it makes them seem slow in comparison.
Any 1000cc bike will run 10s out the box,this things make 270/280 hp to the wheel and weigh 160kg, they're absolute rockets.
They're hitting 360km/h on those tiny track straights!
@@c-dawg2145 They are slow in comparison to F1 cars around a circuit.
@@CC-xu2yz But faster than F1 in terms of acceleration and top speed
I love it when people see how motorcycles are truly rocketships lol
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LOL Dani "I was trying not to get too much power" blows the doors off everything by a mile.
Great to see the bike winning! Well done, Dani, you did us bikers proud! 👏👏👏 As George Orwell said, "Four wheels good, two wheels better" - or something like that! 😉
Unless there's a turn.
Around a circuit, with many turns, the bike stands no chance against a F1 car.
@dommartin8814
On the Isle of Man or any public road for that matter the F1 Car doesn't stand a chance against any bike.
Must have been a different George.
@@simonbrown140give me one example where on a road circuit where f1 cars race, a bike would be faster? Or are you just saying the bike is faster where it is impossible for the f1 car to drive? In which case bad argument
Top content Red Bull, keep it up!! 💪
It's nice to see Dani Pedrosa again
Awesome that was the best drag race line up this year! Many thanks Red Bull and everyone involved.
Absolutely happy to see Mat here, doing drag races home n away n still very good
It sad Pedrosa had these injuries in the past.Such a good young guy.This guy was incredible , he was like a little boy riding a Huge Bike .My father loved him