Just some details about telemetry: drivers can see data on their steering wheel displays and can communicate them via radio to the engineers. But the radio comms are open, so not a great idea to publicly tell your data, so drivers limit the comms and use cipher codes. Btw that's the reason the displays are pixeled in the pov cameras: to avoid engineers can read them from tv
I’m a retired Motorola radio tech. I could configure the drivers normal push to talk button in such a way to double click it and it switches to a different Chanel/freq and do a quick data dump. Single click back to Chanel 1 and voice. The button and radio are the normal stuff and would never even be considered manipulated in any way by officials.
@@guybeingaguy yeah but that would defeat the purpose, its not like the teams couldnt figure out a way to have seperate channels its that they aren't allow to for competition's sake
@@guybeingaguy And any software engineer with even the slightest experience could write an encryption scheme for comms so nobody could listen in but there's this pesky thing called rules...
@@SuperGenericUser Oh agreed 💯 Encryption is just obvious, no reason needed, so we gotta make the rule.👍 My system, I think I could pass tech inspection every time is all I’m saying. The reason for the second freq/channel is because the officials don’t even know it exists to monitor, and even if they did, identifying you as the transmitter would be difficult. It’s a 1 second data burst, could be anything at a busy track. Disclaimer: I don’t know all the specific rules just thinking outside the box.
@@guybeingaguy The rule in F1 is the team gets 1 freq per car, I don't see why it would be different here. If the teams had access to multiple frequencies everyone would just have frequency hopping systems.
Actually FE ran a race on a track just recently, on Portland International Raceway, and it set a new record for overtakes, with over 400 overtakes on the track.
Which I think confirms how stupid it is that street circuits are becoming more prevalent because they typically produce worse racing, no matter the series
@@joshuawhelan9358I think FE makes street racing work. I do wish they went to more traditional street tracks like Long Beach, Singapore, Toronto, St Petersberg, and any Aussie Supercar street track rather than building their own ones. I do think a few good tracks for FE would be places like Donington, Laguna Seca, Barber, maybe even Nurburgring but using the shorter layout. I know there are probably plenty more but my knowledge of tracks is quite limited outside of the major championships.
there is a good bit of exciting racing for sure, but nothing proper old school about trying to hang in P4-P6 for most of the race, trying very hard not to be the leader.
This tells you as much about FE as an car commercial tells you about a car. It's glossed over and manipulative, and in this case the product is still utter garbage.
@@FroskenFritjoff Considering the fact that it's been going for over a decade, seems like it's fine to me. Who knows, perhaps it's your own F1 prejudice or something unimaginable like that informing your opinions.
@@FroskenFritjoff Rubbish, it's great racing. Of course, it's not as fast as F1, but nothing else is. The racing is close and unpredictable which makes for great entertainment
The driver has the data on their car so they relay it back to the engineers, often in a coded way. Everyone is in the dark on everyone else's energy until its shown on TV though
I'm so annoyed they moved it from NYC, the portland race looks awesome but this was going to be the year I saw a race! Hopefully I'll get over to Portland at some point to see it.
I feel like a lot of fe critics dont understand that fe is closer to tintop racing than it is open wheelers. Aside from the obvious fact that they have no cockpit, the general rigidity of the cars makes it easier and safer to go side-by-side without risking as much damage, making moves you'd expect to see in GT, touring cars, etc.
and yet they race only on these stupid street tracks. so they end up with all the same kinda racing as GT, touring cars ect. but non of the charm that comes with that kind of racing on a good track. because they litterally dont have any good tracks. it ends up looking more like indoor cart racing than GT racing in the end wich is a damn shame...... the whole peleton/energy saving thing is fucking stupid also, they need to decide if this is a speed thing of an endurance thing. i like both but you have to pick one it shouldnt be changing per track.....
@@UIMcocodog FE raced in Portland on a racetrack mate. They hold the record for most overtakes on the track. So, you have cars as fast as F1 cars that are as aggressive as GT cars... It literally is the best of both worlds
I'd be even willing to settle for a 65:35 street:perm circuit mix. Since even F1 seems to be making every new circuit introduced a street circuit. Mostly though I hope for tyres that are faster and for them to be able to use the full 800hp at least in qualiy.
Fanboost was just a Gimmick to persuade driver to do more marketing for themself and so FE. I doubt it ever had an impact on the results. While the performance differences in F1 on the other hand...
I hated fan boost, didnt come back till it was gone. However! I really like the city circuits; I would hate to see them go away. Instead, I would just like to see a couple of larger tracks added. Once the energy density is high enough to support it, places like Spa or Paul Ricard would be fun.
Feels like the driver aggressiveness pretty much boils down to the energy part and how limited the energy of all the cars actually is. That pretty much means you can't spend too much time behind another driver, especially when the main way you can make use of said energy is both overtaking at the right time then crossing the line with the bear minimum energy needed so that you don't get disqualified. It's going to be interesting to see how FE racing plays out once energy density in batteries increases and the sport considers mid-race recharging.
I feel like a mid race battery replacement would be much more realistic as even recharging at a ridiculous rate it would still take far more time than a traditional pit stop.
@@JPizzy986Yeah, I mean they can change brakes at Le Mans in a fairly reasonable amount of time so it wouldn't surprise me if they find a way to quickly detach and reattach the battery
@@JPizzy986 your idea could be very relevant when coupled with batteries with different capacities/power. So a battery with limited capacity would be more powerful but less endurant similar to softs and a battery very capacitive but less powerful like hards 🤔
They could add a small capacitor based battery. Box, connect for a quick charge, release. They aren't high power but can quickly charge and discharge. Maybe adds 10% charge and will be like refueling.
This along with NASCAR changes (dirt roads, different tracks) is a good direction for racing. A bit of unpredictability makes it so much more fun to watch than F1 races where it's always the same car brands and drivers winning.
@@troygillum5 ok, but in my opinion even if each race has a different winner and it’s unpredictable I still don’t find driving in an oval fun to watch.
The Formula E Races I spotted in this video: 2022 NYC E-Prix 2016 London E-Prix 2023 Berlin E-Prix 2023 Diriyah E-Prix 2023 Jakarta E-Prix 2019 Santiago E-Prix 2016 Punta del Este E-Prix 2015 Monaco E-Prix Circuit Layouts at 1:03 are for: 2020 Mexico City E-Prix / TOP LEFT 2015-2023 Berlin E-Prix / TOP RIGHT 2019-2020 Santiago E-Prix / BOTTOM LEFT 2021-2023 London E-Prix / BOTTOM RIGHT Let's keep going 1:10 Track map of the circuit in the 2023 Cape Town E-Prix 2021 Diriyah E-Prix 2021 London E-Prix 2023 Rome E-Prix 2021 Berlin E-Prix 2014 (in the 2015 season) Beijing E-Prix 2023 Hyderabad E-Prix 2023 Mexico City E-Prix 2023 Cape Town E-Prix 2023 Monaco E-Prix 2022 Berlin E-Prix 2022 Diriyah E-Prix 2017 (in the 2018 season) Hong Kong E-Prix 2016 Mexico City E-Prix 2019 Marrakesh E-Prix 2020 Reverse Berlin E-Prix 2023 Portland E-Prix
@@theterriblepuddle1830 It was not. Only ended up getting a 10-place grid penalty for the following race. Bearing the Prost name certainly helped him out.
I unexpectedly saw the FE race in Portland this year with some surprise free tickets. I knew almost nothing going in but DAMN, they were aggressive and there were so many overtakes. I didn’t love everything about it but it was incredible to watch the battles.
@@swecreations As an F1 fan mostly duration and the lack of tire changes. I missed quali due to work, which I think would’ve helped me enjoy it a bit more.
It's important to note also that as the cars are very similar in terms of performance, you cannot rely on the superior performance of your car eventually giving you an overtake. The right overtake or defence at the right time is very important. The number of overtakes is mostly due to the low downforce allowing close following, similarity in car performance, and strategy that doesn’t allow you to lead from the front for the whole race and in Gen3 specifically encourages you to sit in the pack for a while.
The lack of data for the engineers/team really is a game changer and makes this series amazing. It would be really cool to see f1 take a similar approach to sensors. That is a true way to make racing more exciting.
I definitely see where you’re coming from, their are plenty of smaller aspects I think different categories could borrow from each other, but as far as data, I think that’s a staple of F1 and I think it should stay. Every series has its own uniqueness, and I’m really keen to keep that. Just my thoughts!
F1 battles could be very unpredictable if the hybrid system would work the same way LMP1 hybrid systems used to work around a decade ago: loads of power suddenly released by the driver by pressing a button.
@@DanielThe27thAgreed. A lot of people seem to want F1 to feature more racing and less engineering, but in my opinion the engineering is the truly interesting part of F1, it's what sets it apart from other motorsports. The competition between constructors, watching the cars change over the seasons, or which cars are better in which circuits, that's the best part of F1.
0:40 just want to note, they have started doing race tracks. That was earlier this year the had a race at PIR that I got to attend. Great experience, but I felt the race wasn’t as exciting as the street courses. But they did set the fastest speed for a Formal E car while they were there. Got to see the cars fairly close when they came in and out as well.
The problem is that sometimes F-E feels like a random Gran Turismo or Forza lobby. People dive bombing, crashing out of nowhere, and sometimes even simple mistakes. I understand that it can be nice for casual viewers, but, in my opinion, it will hardly create a big fanbase in the long term.
Great video. Always felt FE was pretty old school in the way they raced. Its a very raw series. I think its got a lot for motorsport fans to enjoy but prior to gen 3 the lack of speed and the fanboost made it a bit off putting for some. Now that the cars are faster and they've ditched the fanboost hopefully we see more motorsport fans give it a chance. Just seems like the next step is to get more permanent circuits on the calendar.
A few mistakes. They have races on permanent circuits, not just street circuits. I was at the Portland Race this year. Second, Attack mode total time can change per race, and the teams are allowed to decided how large their increments area.
They raced in Portland as a temporary way of having a US race after the New York E-Prix wasn’t included this year due to construction works happening in its area, and they’ll have another race there next year but they’re looking for a city where they can host a normal street circuit for the future in case the NY E-Prix doesn’t return. The concept of this line of motor sports is to race over street circuits not permanent tracks, adding permanent tracks would require a change in the car regulations and especially in the tires and their material and build up
@@omarkishli2094 Mexico? They raced at the Autódromo Hermanos Rodríguez, the same place that F1 race if I'm not mistaken. That's two non-street tracks this year which makes this creator's statement untrue. Concepts or not.
I did enjoy FE, it was a good spectacle and improved over time. They were willing to try things, and tweak the series based on what worked & what didn't. I can see why they used fan boost, they really wanted to up the fan engagement of a new series. But I'm glad they got rid of it once they had a fan base that didn't need an extra gimmick to feel an attachment. I wish the gen3 cars weren't just an improvement in the car, but looked better too. Gen2 looked better than gen3 to me, but that's taste and not a real issue. My only real disappointment in FE was when they decided to switch who they broadcast on. All the sport (and motorsport especially) that I watch was on one service. But they switched over to a lesser widespread provider that I wasn't interested in. I'm one of those people that isn't going to sign up to yet another service & pay even more just to watch this one sport. Unfortunately that means I haven't watched FE since, and I miss it.
@@nuclearxironite6440 Thanks, but sadly they don't anymore in Australia. They did when it first started (or did somewhere) & that's how I watched. But once they got onto a broadcaster, that got shut down. Might have to try and get myself a VPN that doesn't get picked up by streaming services and blocked. Cheers for the idea.👍
I'll be more interested when they get rid of the attack mode... I just can't get behind manufactured overtaking. DRS is my least favorite part of F1 and Attack mode is just waaaay to much of a gimmick to be taken seriously by me.
as a long time formula e fan (since season 1), i agree with every point in here. adding to that, unlike formula 1, the regulations do not allow major changes to the cars, making all the cars more or less on a similar level which keeps the racing very close and exciting for everyone. i got the opportunity to watch the race when it happened in Hyderabad this year and it was very fun to watch with all the tire slips and overtakes near my stand...
Are they counting the stupid attack mode things as overtakes? Cuz when the divers go offline to take their attack mode and loose 1-3 spots, personally I'm not counting that.
I think the founder of FE admitted that was his inspiration. And since we're on the topic: one car company (I want to say Toyota) floated the idea of wireless street charging (ie: installing QC chargers on roads to allow electric cars to charge while driving). I don't think this is a viable technology, but how much you want to bet that if it becomes even semi-usable, FE will attempt to make F-Zero eske recharge zones?
Was at the Berlin e Prix this year. Brilliant racing with more action in 5 laps than 2 Grand Prix's. Also saw Scott there where he the PR person was trying to chat him up.
I don’t think I will ever be fully onboard with formula E unless they stop gamifying things like attack mode. If you are telling me that the engine as extra horsepower to give, then let the teams use it. The fact that you are able to magically give a driver 50 hp tells me you are artificially limiting these cars. There is no point in watching high end racing if both the drivers and the cars aren’t getting pushed to the absolute limit. It also reminds me of several of the things I hate about the modern auto industry. Namely that manufacturers put functionality into their cars that they don’t let you use (unless you pay a subscription)
You only call it gamey because of the name tho. You’re biased because of what it’s called. So many motorsports have something similar. If DRS was called “speed mode” you’d be complaining as well. Not because there’s anything wrong with the idea, but because it’s marketed wrong
People are so afraid of EV batteries, the fires and all, meanwhile Formula E is still going strong and it's still absolutely bonkers. And no news of unextinguishable fires melting through streets or whatever.
@@BrunodeSouzaLino They absolutely can and are heavily and almost always recycled; you should look it up. That being said, the lithium mining process is quite polluting so I hear, so adding new batteries is non-trivially toxic to the environment.
@@jrcowboy1099 Sure. Except the recycling has a yield of up to 2%, which is as much recycling as companies that ship products in eco friendly packaging but they're wrapped in plastic inside the box.
Its been so long that Ive seen a video on YT that actually talks about the title and ends with a neat little bow that it kinda threw me off. Well done, well written
I love attack mode for the same reason i like joker laps in rallycross, a race track is a very static thing, besides rubbering in and rain it doesn't change at all for the duration of the race, but a joker lap is there to mix things up and add variety, it's also another strategic decision for the drivers and race fans love analysing strategy. It's impossible to implement a joker lap on most circuits and it's very dangerous to have open wheel cars leave and rejoin the pack, also having a required slow drive through the pit lane would be boring, so this brief venture off the racing line for a speed boost reward is the next best thing, it adds strategy and like a poorly timed pit stop it's possible to hit it at the wrong time, one simple addition which really mixes up the racing.
5:49 "There is no doubt that racing in Formula E is more robust" He just is to afraid to get cancelled if he said fun or better instead of a more carefull word such as "robust"
Attack mode reminds me a little bit of joker laps in touring cars or rallycross. A bit of time loss initially but can be deployed strategically at the right moment.
I find it funny how Formula E appears to have many of the things people complain F1 lacks and yet F1 viewers won't watch Formula E. I hope, if F1 ever does go fully electric, they keep a distinction in style between race circuit F1 type racing and FE racing.
I love Formula E, I really think the latest gen cars have taken it to another level. Some might not take it seriously, but it comfortably produces the best racing in motorsport these days. It can feel like a destruction derby race at times, but that's what makes it so much fun to watch. F1 could learn a lot from Formula E.
What sort of networking equipment is on F1 cars in order to send such a large amount of data wirelessly? Or is a good chunk of it just stored on board for later analysis?
Telemetries are highly compressible data. You could probably reduce the size a lot for transmission and storage. For equipment, I saw articles talking about Qualcomm 5G and Wifi 6 being used.
When we got rid of manual transmissions and cast iron brakes we reduced the frequency and the size of the driver errors in F1 and by doing it reduced the chances of a surprise. Removing refueling reduced the strategy options too.
Any racing series with gimmicks like that boost zone isn’t a racing series I want to watch. Also all the issues with only using electric motors and batteries. Particularly with the fact the cars get slower as the race goes on and drivers not being able to push flat out for the duration of the race. That isn’t racing. I’d rather see a pinnacle of engineering going around a track faster than anything else in existence. There are plenty of super competitive open wheel spec series out there much better and faster than FE. F1 is already heading down a bad path with their 2026 engine regulations basically splitting the power 50/50 between the ICE and electric motor while removing the MGU-H which will result in a much slower car despite opening up the aero regulations to stuff like active arrow. They advertise the cars have 1000hp which is only partially true and it comes down to the limitations of batteries. The cars can’t run on that full 1000hp for more than short burst while we can easily make and engine that make 1000hp for the entirety of the race. I’m not against a hybrid system likes F1 currently has where 85% of the power is from the ICE but any less is detrimental to being F1 remaining the pinnacle of motorsport.
I suppose a big deal is also the regulations on bumping? From the clips it seems that bumping is legal whereas in f1 you'll get penalised to the point where it's often not worth the risky overtake
Slight contact between drivers is not heavily penalised, mainly because it doesn't damage the cars. But there are penalties for heavy/reckless overtakes
So interesting! Thanks for sharing this knowledge 👏👏 For me is like a more sofisticated kart type of racing! Love it! Morris driving than only technology, but looking to develop technology through driving. Amazing and entertaining!
No more fan boost and car swaps, nice! Still don't know why I would watch this with WEC, EU LMS, NLS, DTM and many other series featuring relatable cars and drivers. I do agree about modern race tracks. They all go in the wrong direction with their endless runoff areas.
Because Endurance racing is f-ing boring other than the 24h Nürburgring and with DTM you rarely see any overtakes and the cars are so planted, they look slower than the Tourenwagen Classics cars. GT3 is way too easy to drive nowadays.
@@Leynad778 Hard disagree. WEC and IMSA battles well clear of DTM and F1 rn. Not only are their on track battles for even the lead of classes, the strategy also has a bigger impact than F1 with the bullet proof tyres.
Amazing how taking the engine noise away makes these things so boring. F1 is the most boring of engine powered racing due to all its bs rules but this takes that further
I think it's so aggressive because it's in it's adolescent stage and drivers are hungry. Also, they all drive the same car, so you don't have a natural pecking order.
Yeah it seems really interesting. Love the things they've done to make it more exciting for spectators. Going to have to look up when and if races are taking place in the states. Would love to see a homologated electric "stock" car series so the manufacturers would be incentivized to make electric cars that don't suck and bring back the mantra of "win on Sunday, sell on Monday".
I’ve heard so much clowning about formula E when it was being first marketed, and I’ve heard almost nothing but praise for how dynamic it is since it established itself.
Aside from some chatter around 5 years ago I havent heard anyone talk bout Formula E until that dumbass eco protestor just recently. Our group watch F1, Rally, GT, Stadium super trucks etc etc. We should be the target audience. Lack of engine noise, and all the gimmicky rules are a huge turn off. Just give them a car and let them fight it out, no interference.
If only i could get over the high pitched whirring sound... I would really think I'll like Formula E alongside the F1.... Both different racing with their own flavor. Even though the sound is lot better in 3rd gen cars, the high pitched shrill of the Formula E feels like it's piercing my ear drums.. and giving me a headache even for less than a minute or watching the footage. Let alone be inperson in the race. I donno how the drivers are maintaining their sanity through that high pitched piercing shrill, and focus on the driving and parallelly playing the strategy game... Respect to them! As usual Great video from Driver61!!
What's the reason that all their circuits are street circuits? For me personally I would be more interested in watching FE if they raced on traditional tracks but I'm really glad that they're gaining more popularity.
Funny how Formula E(lectric) that is supposed to have future of motorsport vibes had brought out brute force racing Which is definitely planned. Like how the ban of use of data inputs & having a spec (all the same) chassis, largely brings down the total budget of the event, and being mostly street racing, makes it easier for 3rd world countries or countries not well known for a race track to hop in the game. And yeah, the unpredictability given fromm the racecraft, had them proving enough that sound isn't the only problem in modern f1.
If people give Formula E a chance, they'll realise that it is genuinely so much better than Formula 1. The racing is closer, more competitive, the drivers push much harder, and the cars are surprisingly loud for electric vehicles, and they're only getting better.
Yes it's racing is better. But F1 as a whole is a gem. Better cars, tech and engineers in turn top notch drivers and when it's a close season, it's the BEST sport ref 2021, 2022 before Ferrari shat the bed and 2023 minus Redbull
Nope... The tracks in FormulaE mostly just suck. Tracks have gotten better but that is really not that much a praise; they used to be incredible stinkers in the past. But they still are too tight. I want them to have at least 1/3rd purpose built race tracks, the rest can be street tracks. I also would not mind one or two small ovals...
@@appellemoimoi No it isn't. We've had 12 years of the same teams dominating every single season. The cars aren't better, they're more complex. They sound like shit, yes you have excellent drivers but so does Formula E. And I'm sorry, but if you're using 2021, the year the FIA decided the championship by breaking their own rules, as proof F1 is superior then you've lost the argument already.
in f1 they save tirewear, overtake, fuel.. EVERY racing category has some saving strategies to push in the needed moment.. it's not Mario kart.. they don't just press throttle and brake and some buttons on the wheel.. they think before passing someone..
@@MattMajcan I dont think you understand what a drag race is Matt, in a drag race you go in a straight line there are no turns and there are only 2 cars per race. I’m sure you can’t be that obliviously to think just because both have 4 wheels they are the same sport lol. You must be a Redditor.
Up until the last race, it was looking to be the best title fight FE has ever had, one of the best I have seen in Formula since 2012 and then Evans ushered Cassidy into the run off. It's gonna be a difficult fight back for them now.
I bet if Formula e cars had engines people would accept the sport and see how good it really is. So many racing fans I know don't care for it purely because it's electric.
Its the boring bit where they are just save energy for the sprint race at the end that makes me not take it seriously. I would rather they just made the races shorter and everybody went hell for leather for the entire race. That I would take seriously. And that would catch the eye of the people who dont like electric cars for racing...
The problem with Formula E is that in practice EVs cause about the same amount of environmetal impact F1 cars do, which means the whole patronizing angle about the environment is hypocrisy at best. Then you have all the half baked mechanics like Attack Mode, which is essentially Indy's Push to Pass but with DRS Mechanics and disavantages of both. EV based races would be way more interesting if they focused on the racing instead of all this other stuff no one cares about, especially when it's not true.
Been watching Formula E since day one and I can honestly say its a hundred times more entertaining and engaging then F1 is. Yes, the lack of a combustible motor is somewhat lackluster, but the series makes up with lots of challenges and passing, the fact that you never know who is gonna be a WDC says it all. Also, FE only has one two time WDC, which shows how rare it is
I think Formula E is still very young and with improvements in electricity storage tech, accompanied by other aspects things might not remain the way it is now. Anyway nice to know something about Formula E.
Just some details about telemetry: drivers can see data on their steering wheel displays and can communicate them via radio to the engineers.
But the radio comms are open, so not a great idea to publicly tell your data, so drivers limit the comms and use cipher codes.
Btw that's the reason the displays are pixeled in the pov cameras: to avoid engineers can read them from tv
I’m a retired Motorola radio tech.
I could configure the drivers normal push to talk button in such a way to double click it and it switches to a different Chanel/freq and do a quick data dump.
Single click back to Chanel 1 and voice.
The button and radio are the normal stuff and would never even be considered manipulated in any way by officials.
@@guybeingaguy yeah but that would defeat the purpose, its not like the teams couldnt figure out a way to have seperate channels its that they aren't allow to for competition's sake
@@guybeingaguy And any software engineer with even the slightest experience could write an encryption scheme for comms so nobody could listen in but there's this pesky thing called rules...
@@SuperGenericUser Oh agreed 💯
Encryption is just obvious, no reason needed, so we gotta make the rule.👍
My system, I think I could pass tech inspection every time is all I’m saying.
The reason for the second freq/channel is because the officials don’t even know it exists to monitor, and even if they did, identifying you as the transmitter would be difficult. It’s a 1 second data burst, could be anything at a busy track.
Disclaimer: I don’t know all the specific rules just thinking outside the box.
@@guybeingaguy The rule in F1 is the team gets 1 freq per car, I don't see why it would be different here. If the teams had access to multiple frequencies everyone would just have frequency hopping systems.
Actually FE ran a race on a track just recently, on Portland International Raceway, and it set a new record for overtakes, with over 400 overtakes on the track.
yeah, they have 2-3 tracks which are permanent
Which I think confirms how stupid it is that street circuits are becoming more prevalent because they typically produce worse racing, no matter the series
I live in Portland and was really hoping they'd make it a street race to watch the chaos in my city lol
@GrenYT I'm scared of what would happen on the streets lol. I was at the race and it was fun either way.
@@joshuawhelan9358I think FE makes street racing work. I do wish they went to more traditional street tracks like Long Beach, Singapore, Toronto, St Petersberg, and any Aussie Supercar street track rather than building their own ones.
I do think a few good tracks for FE would be places like Donington, Laguna Seca, Barber, maybe even Nurburgring but using the shorter layout. I know there are probably plenty more but my knowledge of tracks is quite limited outside of the major championships.
the proper real old school racing in modern world without sound.
there is a good bit of exciting racing for sure, but nothing proper old school about trying to hang in P4-P6 for most of the race, trying very hard not to be the leader.
This exact comment was written by vrajpatel2763 2 mins before you
Either a bot or a desperately uncreative "creator"
without sound? the high pitch noise they make is pretty loud.
@@Szergej33 Old school racing was never about pushing 100% on every lap of the race. Even then it was about strategy and being smart to win.
As someone who doesn't know much about Formula E I greatly enjoyed this video. Thanks!
I think if they where allowed to produce there own car like f1 with regs I think they would be interesting
Must be the next step for it to evolve more
@@escos0410 The fans of FE, probably enjoy the championship battles that are able to occur, so I doubt it
This tells you as much about FE as an car commercial tells you about a car. It's glossed over and manipulative, and in this case the product is still utter garbage.
@@FroskenFritjoff Considering the fact that it's been going for over a decade, seems like it's fine to me.
Who knows, perhaps it's your own F1 prejudice or something unimaginable like that informing your opinions.
@@FroskenFritjoff Rubbish, it's great racing. Of course, it's not as fast as F1, but nothing else is. The racing is close and unpredictable which makes for great entertainment
Damn, I didn't know FE teams relied on the TV broadcast to know how much energy there is left in the car!!!!
The driver has the data on their car so they relay it back to the engineers, often in a coded way. Everyone is in the dark on everyone else's energy until its shown on TV though
They rely on the broadcast to know the OTHER driver's energy levels, of course they'll know their own lol
@@Reydrielthanks, I was confused
I'm also shocked bro
I went to the race in Portland this year. First time FE has raced on a permanent road course. So many overtakes. It was fantastic.
Yes that was a great race! also nice watching in a decent timezone lol
I was there too! It was a lot of fun!
I'm so annoyed they moved it from NYC, the portland race looks awesome but this was going to be the year I saw a race! Hopefully I'll get over to Portland at some point to see it.
I thought it was the 4th time FE has raced on a permanent track bc they've ran at Puebla, Mexico City, & Valencia
@@mountain6215 those are street circuits. Portland is a stand alone race track.
I feel like a lot of fe critics dont understand that fe is closer to tintop racing than it is open wheelers. Aside from the obvious fact that they have no cockpit, the general rigidity of the cars makes it easier and safer to go side-by-side without risking as much damage, making moves you'd expect to see in GT, touring cars, etc.
and yet they race only on these stupid street tracks. so they end up with all the same kinda racing as GT, touring cars ect. but non of the charm that comes with that kind of racing on a good track. because they litterally dont have any good tracks. it ends up looking more like indoor cart racing than GT racing in the end wich is a damn shame...... the whole peleton/energy saving thing is fucking stupid also, they need to decide if this is a speed thing of an endurance thing. i like both but you have to pick one it shouldnt be changing per track.....
@@UIMcocodog FE raced in Portland on a racetrack mate. They hold the record for most overtakes on the track. So, you have cars as fast as F1 cars that are as aggressive as GT cars... It literally is the best of both worlds
I'm finally coming back to Formula E now that fan boost is gone. Hopefully they can develop the car enough for them to race in proper race circuits
I'd be even willing to settle for a 65:35 street:perm circuit mix. Since even F1 seems to be making every new circuit introduced a street circuit.
Mostly though I hope for tyres that are faster and for them to be able to use the full 800hp at least in qualiy.
Fanboost was just a Gimmick to persuade driver to do more marketing for themself and so FE. I doubt it ever had an impact on the results. While the performance differences in F1 on the other hand...
I hated fan boost, didnt come back till it was gone. However! I really like the city circuits; I would hate to see them go away. Instead, I would just like to see a couple of larger tracks added. Once the energy density is high enough to support it, places like Spa or Paul Ricard would be fun.
And power steering
Exactly the same, i stopped watching when fanboost came. I gave it a chance, i felt it was wrong and against sporting code and racing ethos.
Feels like the driver aggressiveness pretty much boils down to the energy part and how limited the energy of all the cars actually is. That pretty much means you can't spend too much time behind another driver, especially when the main way you can make use of said energy is both overtaking at the right time then crossing the line with the bear minimum energy needed so that you don't get disqualified. It's going to be interesting to see how FE racing plays out once energy density in batteries increases and the sport considers mid-race recharging.
I feel like a mid race battery replacement would be much more realistic as even recharging at a ridiculous rate it would still take far more time than a traditional pit stop.
@@JPizzy986Yeah, I mean they can change brakes at Le Mans in a fairly reasonable amount of time so it wouldn't surprise me if they find a way to quickly detach and reattach the battery
@@JPizzy986 your idea could be very relevant when coupled with batteries with different capacities/power. So a battery with limited capacity would be more powerful but less endurant similar to softs and a battery very capacitive but less powerful like hards 🤔
@@BoucleI don't think it would be about more or less power but instead about weight.
They could add a small capacitor based battery. Box, connect for a quick charge, release. They aren't high power but can quickly charge and discharge. Maybe adds 10% charge and will be like refueling.
The overtakes and defending reminds me of online races in F1 games 😂
This along with NASCAR changes (dirt roads, different tracks) is a good direction for racing. A bit of unpredictability makes it so much more fun to watch than F1 races where it's always the same car brands and drivers winning.
So…watching cars drive in a oval is more fun than f1?????
@@goldenfalcon6702 they race on circuits and street tracks too
@@goldenfalcon6702 it's the unpredictability of the racing, the type of circuit is irrelevant
@@troygillum5 ok, but in my opinion even if each race has a different winner and it’s unpredictable I still don’t find driving in an oval fun to watch.
@@goldenfalcon6702yes oval racing is a lot of fun to watch
The Formula E Races I spotted in this video:
2022 NYC E-Prix
2016 London E-Prix
2023 Berlin E-Prix
2023 Diriyah E-Prix
2023 Jakarta E-Prix
2019 Santiago E-Prix
2016 Punta del Este E-Prix
2015 Monaco E-Prix
Circuit Layouts at 1:03 are for:
2020 Mexico City E-Prix / TOP LEFT
2015-2023 Berlin E-Prix / TOP RIGHT
2019-2020 Santiago E-Prix / BOTTOM LEFT
2021-2023 London E-Prix / BOTTOM RIGHT
Let's keep going
1:10 Track map of the circuit in the 2023 Cape Town E-Prix
2021 Diriyah E-Prix
2021 London E-Prix
2023 Rome E-Prix
2021 Berlin E-Prix
2014 (in the 2015 season) Beijing E-Prix
2023 Hyderabad E-Prix
2023 Mexico City E-Prix
2023 Cape Town E-Prix
2023 Monaco E-Prix
2022 Berlin E-Prix
2022 Diriyah E-Prix
2017 (in the 2018 season) Hong Kong E-Prix
2016 Mexico City E-Prix
2019 Marrakesh E-Prix
2020 Reverse Berlin E-Prix
2023 Portland E-Prix
I love how “old DTM” Formula E is, it’s so cool to watch and I want to see one of the races live
1:56 Nah, bro just wanted to kill the competition
@@theterriblepuddle1830 It was not. Only ended up getting a 10-place grid penalty for the following race. Bearing the Prost name certainly helped him out.
@@Dolek135 Seriously, alright not worth watching that league then.
That was not racing. That was attempted murder.
Suprised this is the only comment that says this. Buddy tried to banish him to the shadow realm
This is the best argument I've heard for getting into Formula E for fans of other motorsports
@@shama-llamading-dong5370As a cycling fan this peloton dynamic in a motorsport is very intriguing to me LOL
I unexpectedly saw the FE race in Portland this year with some surprise free tickets. I knew almost nothing going in but DAMN, they were aggressive and there were so many overtakes. I didn’t love everything about it but it was incredible to watch the battles.
I'm interested in knowing what part of it that you didn't love?
@@swecreations As an F1 fan mostly duration and the lack of tire changes. I missed quali due to work, which I think would’ve helped me enjoy it a bit more.
@@KelsomaticPDX Okay thanks, good to know!
If you want to finish in 1st, you have to finish first.
Will Buxton is that you?
Omg. You both got it wrong.
Its:
To finish first. You must first finish.
Best advertisement for Formula E I’ve ever seen!
I love how this is just basically Trackmania but in real life, including video gamey things like speed boost zones. Just missing some loopdeloops
Generally they changed design of front of gen 3 cars, because gen 2 closed-wheel design encouraged touring-cars-style battles way too much
It's important to note also that as the cars are very similar in terms of performance, you cannot rely on the superior performance of your car eventually giving you an overtake. The right overtake or defence at the right time is very important.
The number of overtakes is mostly due to the low downforce allowing close following, similarity in car performance, and strategy that doesn’t allow you to lead from the front for the whole race and in Gen3 specifically encourages you to sit in the pack for a while.
This isn't old school style racing. If you did this in the 60s, you'd be called a killer. This is the go-kart style.
The lack of data for the engineers/team really is a game changer and makes this series amazing.
It would be really cool to see f1 take a similar approach to sensors. That is a true way to make racing more exciting.
I definitely see where you’re coming from, their are plenty of smaller aspects I think different categories could borrow from each other, but as far as data, I think that’s a staple of F1 and I think it should stay. Every series has its own uniqueness, and I’m really keen to keep that.
Just my thoughts!
F1 battles could be very unpredictable if the hybrid system would work the same way LMP1 hybrid systems used to work around a decade ago: loads of power suddenly released by the driver by pressing a button.
@@mateagoston8145 That is how it works.
@@DanielThe27thAgreed. A lot of people seem to want F1 to feature more racing and less engineering, but in my opinion the engineering is the truly interesting part of F1, it's what sets it apart from other motorsports. The competition between constructors, watching the cars change over the seasons, or which cars are better in which circuits, that's the best part of F1.
0:40 just want to note, they have started doing race tracks. That was earlier this year the had a race at PIR that I got to attend. Great experience, but I felt the race wasn’t as exciting as the street courses. But they did set the fastest speed for a Formal E car while they were there. Got to see the cars fairly close when they came in and out as well.
Scott convinced me I should be watching FE. Great video!
The problem is that sometimes F-E feels like a random Gran Turismo or Forza lobby. People dive bombing, crashing out of nowhere, and sometimes even simple mistakes. I understand that it can be nice for casual viewers, but, in my opinion, it will hardly create a big fanbase in the long term.
Gives me some new perspective, didn’t know this stuff
Great video. Always felt FE was pretty old school in the way they raced. Its a very raw series.
I think its got a lot for motorsport fans to enjoy but prior to gen 3 the lack of speed and the fanboost made it a bit off putting for some. Now that the cars are faster and they've ditched the fanboost hopefully we see more motorsport fans give it a chance.
Just seems like the next step is to get more permanent circuits on the calendar.
The problem is not so much that, but how patronizing Formula E is in a sense, which makes it as boring to watch as F1 these days.
@@BrunodeSouzaLino Patronizing? Please elaborate.
A few mistakes. They have races on permanent circuits, not just street circuits. I was at the Portland Race this year. Second, Attack mode total time can change per race, and the teams are allowed to decided how large their increments area.
Yeah, looked to see if anyone else mentioned this. It doesn't inspire me to watch more content from this creator.
They raced in Portland as a temporary way of having a US race after the New York E-Prix wasn’t included this year due to construction works happening in its area, and they’ll have another race there next year but they’re looking for a city where they can host a normal street circuit for the future in case the NY E-Prix doesn’t return. The concept of this line of motor sports is to race over street circuits not permanent tracks, adding permanent tracks would require a change in the car regulations and especially in the tires and their material and build up
@@Shaun.Stephensoh I’m sure he’ll be utterly devastated 🤣
They raced in Mexico City for years. They use a shorter layout specially designed for Formula E but the track is permanent.
@@omarkishli2094 Mexico? They raced at the Autódromo Hermanos Rodríguez, the same place that F1 race if I'm not mistaken. That's two non-street tracks this year which makes this creator's statement untrue. Concepts or not.
Great overview! I don't know much about Formula E, so this was very helpful!
I did enjoy FE, it was a good spectacle and improved over time. They were willing to try things, and tweak the series based on what worked & what didn't. I can see why they used fan boost, they really wanted to up the fan engagement of a new series. But I'm glad they got rid of it once they had a fan base that didn't need an extra gimmick to feel an attachment. I wish the gen3 cars weren't just an improvement in the car, but looked better too. Gen2 looked better than gen3 to me, but that's taste and not a real issue. My only real disappointment in FE was when they decided to switch who they broadcast on. All the sport (and motorsport especially) that I watch was on one service. But they switched over to a lesser widespread provider that I wasn't interested in. I'm one of those people that isn't going to sign up to yet another service & pay even more just to watch this one sport. Unfortunately that means I haven't watched FE since, and I miss it.
They stream it on UA-cam usually don't they? Or is that just for the UK?
@@nuclearxironite6440 Thanks, but sadly they don't anymore in Australia. They did when it first started (or did somewhere) & that's how I watched. But once they got onto a broadcaster, that got shut down. Might have to try and get myself a VPN that doesn't get picked up by streaming services and blocked. Cheers for the idea.👍
I've said before, one of the things I love about FE is that it's the only open-wheel series where the drivers race like it's BTCC
Because it is slow on slow street tracks😊
TLDR: it’s a spec series and all the cars are the same that’s why it’s so close and aggressive
the proper real old school racing in modern world without sound
I love the sound of the electric motors. sounds like a sci-fi movie!
I'll be more interested when they get rid of the attack mode... I just can't get behind manufactured overtaking. DRS is my least favorite part of F1 and Attack mode is just waaaay to much of a gimmick to be taken seriously by me.
as a long time formula e fan (since season 1), i agree with every point in here. adding to that, unlike formula 1, the regulations do not allow major changes to the cars, making all the cars more or less on a similar level which keeps the racing very close and exciting for everyone. i got the opportunity to watch the race when it happened in Hyderabad this year and it was very fun to watch with all the tire slips and overtakes near my stand...
Tried watching this. My ears legit started to hurt and it looked so artificial... Power ups, boosters... What are they even trying
1:54 Prost against Heidfeld was not only aggressive, but also a completely intentional takeout that could have ended very badly.
0:12 carefully didn't say "more exciting than formula 1"
Are they counting the stupid attack mode things as overtakes? Cuz when the divers go offline to take their attack mode and loose 1-3 spots, personally I'm not counting that.
Attack mode always reminded me of those boost pads in Mario Kart 😄
At least JEV actually had the Starman light up on his steering wheel when he activated attack mode 😆
I think the founder of FE admitted that was his inspiration.
And since we're on the topic: one car company (I want to say Toyota) floated the idea of wireless street charging (ie: installing QC chargers on roads to allow electric cars to charge while driving). I don't think this is a viable technology, but how much you want to bet that if it becomes even semi-usable, FE will attempt to make F-Zero eske recharge zones?
They should add banana peels.
I can't take this sport seriously while it looks like some kind of Mario Cart irl Mr. Beast video
1:55 that was personal
FE has been the best series this year almost every race has kept me paying attention through the whole race with all the overtakes and action
Great video, especially the part about attack mode was really nicely explained!
Was at the Berlin e Prix this year. Brilliant racing with more action in 5 laps than 2 Grand Prix's. Also saw Scott there where he the PR person was trying to chat him up.
I don’t think I will ever be fully onboard with formula E unless they stop gamifying things like attack mode.
If you are telling me that the engine as extra horsepower to give, then let the teams use it. The fact that you are able to magically give a driver 50 hp tells me you are artificially limiting these cars.
There is no point in watching high end racing if both the drivers and the cars aren’t getting pushed to the absolute limit.
It also reminds me of several of the things I hate about the modern auto industry. Namely that manufacturers put functionality into their cars that they don’t let you use (unless you pay a subscription)
You only call it gamey because of the name tho. You’re biased because of what it’s called. So many motorsports have something similar. If DRS was called “speed mode” you’d be complaining as well. Not because there’s anything wrong with the idea, but because it’s marketed wrong
@@ploppyjr2373 i think DRS is stupid.
People are so afraid of EV batteries, the fires and all, meanwhile Formula E is still going strong and it's still absolutely bonkers. And no news of unextinguishable fires melting through streets or whatever.
I'm more concerned with natural resources than that, as batteries in general cannot be recycled, so that's more eWaste and chemical waste in the bin.
@@BrunodeSouzaLino They absolutely can and are heavily and almost always recycled; you should look it up. That being said, the lithium mining process is quite polluting so I hear, so adding new batteries is non-trivially toxic to the environment.
@@jrcowboy1099 Sure. Except the recycling has a yield of up to 2%, which is as much recycling as companies that ship products in eco friendly packaging but they're wrapped in plastic inside the box.
Its been so long that Ive seen a video on YT that actually talks about the title and ends with a neat little bow that it kinda threw me off. Well done, well written
I love attack mode for the same reason i like joker laps in rallycross, a race track is a very static thing, besides rubbering in and rain it doesn't change at all for the duration of the race, but a joker lap is there to mix things up and add variety, it's also another strategic decision for the drivers and race fans love analysing strategy. It's impossible to implement a joker lap on most circuits and it's very dangerous to have open wheel cars leave and rejoin the pack, also having a required slow drive through the pit lane would be boring, so this brief venture off the racing line for a speed boost reward is the next best thing, it adds strategy and like a poorly timed pit stop it's possible to hit it at the wrong time, one simple addition which really mixes up the racing.
Saving energy is insanely lame, they need to be able to quickly swap batteries
Why does every formula e video from everyone feel like a comercial
5:49 "There is no doubt that racing in Formula E is more robust"
He just is to afraid to get cancelled if he said fun or better instead of a more carefull word such as "robust"
No the aggressiveness and this entire series is because every race is a sprint race because they can’t hold energy for a full race.
Would be nice to have a video with you and brakef1 his past f1 track side experience with your driving experience would be a cool in depth video
In summary, FE is a bicycle race.
I didn't know bicycles have engines
Formula e runs only on street circuits
Mexico, portland, valencia and puebla: am i joke to you?
Attack mode reminds me a little bit of joker laps in touring cars or rallycross. A bit of time loss initially but can be deployed strategically at the right moment.
Cheap tickets are also a plus 😅 I had an amazing time last year in New York and it didn’t cost much!
I find it funny how Formula E appears to have many of the things people complain F1 lacks and yet F1 viewers won't watch Formula E. I hope, if F1 ever does go fully electric, they keep a distinction in style between race circuit F1 type racing and FE racing.
It's because it also has a lot of things fans of single-seater racing don't want to see.
F1 fans often don't realise there's a lot of other exciting motorsports out there. They just want F1 to be how they want
@@Kuolema1337not true, many F1 fans enjoy other kinds of European racing, even completely different types, like rally and endurance
@@Kuolema1337non f1 fans often don't realise that every competition is different from each other and there's a reason id they watch it
I just watched the saturday London Race today. Never did I think it would be that great. I'll be watching in future!
I love Formula E, I really think the latest gen cars have taken it to another level. Some might not take it seriously, but it comfortably produces the best racing in motorsport these days. It can feel like a destruction derby race at times, but that's what makes it so much fun to watch. F1 could learn a lot from Formula E.
best racing in Motorsports? You can't be serious.
0:47 Thank you for making that clear, I really couldn’t tell.
What sort of networking equipment is on F1 cars in order to send such a large amount of data wirelessly? Or is a good chunk of it just stored on board for later analysis?
Telemetries are highly compressible data. You could probably reduce the size a lot for transmission and storage. For equipment, I saw articles talking about Qualcomm 5G and Wifi 6 being used.
When we got rid of manual transmissions and cast iron brakes we reduced the frequency and the size of the driver errors in F1 and by doing it reduced the chances of a surprise. Removing refueling reduced the strategy options too.
Formula one was better without refuelling in the 80s and early 90s. Overtaking went downhill when they reintroduced refuelling in 1994.
@@Dunky80 if that was all that changed in the rules it would mean more.
Any racing series with gimmicks like that boost zone isn’t a racing series I want to watch. Also all the issues with only using electric motors and batteries. Particularly with the fact the cars get slower as the race goes on and drivers not being able to push flat out for the duration of the race. That isn’t racing.
I’d rather see a pinnacle of engineering going around a track faster than anything else in existence. There are plenty of super competitive open wheel spec series out there much better and faster than FE. F1 is already heading down a bad path with their 2026 engine regulations basically splitting the power 50/50 between the ICE and electric motor while removing the MGU-H which will result in a much slower car despite opening up the aero regulations to stuff like active arrow. They advertise the cars have 1000hp which is only partially true and it comes down to the limitations of batteries. The cars can’t run on that full 1000hp for more than short burst while we can easily make and engine that make 1000hp for the entirety of the race. I’m not against a hybrid system likes F1 currently has where 85% of the power is from the ICE but any less is detrimental to being F1 remaining the pinnacle of motorsport.
Overtaking is not really "aggressive" when it's just one driver deciding not to lift and coast for a corner while everyone else are saving energy.
I see you haven't watched the video.
Wasn't a fan the first time around due to the fan boost bit but the tech and the racing was enjoyable. Maybe I'll have to give it a shot again
I suppose a big deal is also the regulations on bumping? From the clips it seems that bumping is legal whereas in f1 you'll get penalised to the point where it's often not worth the risky overtake
Slight contact between drivers is not heavily penalised, mainly because it doesn't damage the cars. But there are penalties for heavy/reckless overtakes
So interesting! Thanks for sharing this knowledge 👏👏 For me is like a more sofisticated kart type of racing! Love it! Morris driving than only technology, but looking to develop technology through driving. Amazing and entertaining!
Not allowing sensors seems counterproductive to car developement..
Last E race i watched was boring as fuck. They were all just waiting in a train for the final few laps...
1:56 attempting murder
Formula E stands for Expensive bumper cars.
the way you explain formula E makes it seem like any formula E driver could kill it in F1, but alas...
They are so different though... other than the fact that each use an open wheel vehicle and they share some city circuits.
@@Nekonaut_aka_Jebus indeed. Italian Jesus for example did not do well in Forumula E
about the De Vries, even in his Formula E career that guy is a dirty driving terror even amongst the more "adventurous" drivers of the series
Super aggressive, less diversity in cars, low downforce, and tight races, sounds like nascar to me
@Ava-qe4qe you don't know how badly I want to make plane jokes now.
No more fan boost and car swaps, nice! Still don't know why I would watch this with WEC, EU LMS, NLS, DTM and many other series featuring relatable cars and drivers.
I do agree about modern race tracks. They all go in the wrong direction with their endless runoff areas.
FE is clear of DTM this season ngl. Honestly I'd say it's even better than NLS, WEC and ELMS, is another kettle of fish though.
Because Endurance racing is f-ing boring other than the 24h Nürburgring and with DTM you rarely see any overtakes and the cars are so planted, they look slower than the Tourenwagen Classics cars. GT3 is way too easy to drive nowadays.
@@Leynad778 Hard disagree. WEC and IMSA battles well clear of DTM and F1 rn. Not only are their on track battles for even the lead of classes, the strategy also has a bigger impact than F1 with the bullet proof tyres.
@Leynad778 2023 WEC is legit good tho
Well, many FE drivers race in WEC too
Amazing how taking the engine noise away makes these things so boring.
F1 is the most boring of engine powered racing due to all its bs rules but this takes that further
I think it's so aggressive because it's in it's adolescent stage and drivers are hungry. Also, they all drive the same car, so you don't have a natural pecking order.
Won't be long until the cars are better than F1, it's a natural evolution.
Yes more FE content!!
Yeah it seems really interesting. Love the things they've done to make it more exciting for spectators. Going to have to look up when and if races are taking place in the states. Would love to see a homologated electric "stock" car series so the manufacturers would be incentivized to make electric cars that don't suck and bring back the mantra of "win on Sunday, sell on Monday".
I’ve heard so much clowning about formula E when it was being first marketed, and I’ve heard almost nothing but praise for how dynamic it is since it established itself.
It’s not bud…slow and boring comes to mind after watching motor sport all my life I think it should be banned…
Aside from some chatter around 5 years ago I havent heard anyone talk bout Formula E until that dumbass eco protestor just recently. Our group watch F1, Rally, GT, Stadium super trucks etc etc. We should be the target audience. Lack of engine noise, and all the gimmicky rules are a huge turn off. Just give them a car and let them fight it out, no interference.
can you talk about lawnmower racing nex it is a grueling 12-hour endurance race in Five Oaks, England and many other places
I say it's the RGB-Stripes, that make them willing to overtake so often.
If only i could get over the high pitched whirring sound... I would really think I'll like Formula E alongside the F1.... Both different racing with their own flavor.
Even though the sound is lot better in 3rd gen cars, the high pitched shrill of the Formula E feels like it's piercing my ear drums.. and giving me a headache even for less than a minute or watching the footage. Let alone be inperson in the race.
I donno how the drivers are maintaining their sanity through that high pitched piercing shrill, and focus on the driving and parallelly playing the strategy game... Respect to them!
As usual Great video from Driver61!!
when you can't generate excitement with incredible engine noise you have to find it somewhere else
Holy cow - who was the wreck at 1:55?!? That was BRUTAL!
Love Formula E racing !
What's the reason that all their circuits are street circuits? For me personally I would be more interested in watching FE if they raced on traditional tracks but I'm really glad that they're gaining more popularity.
Funny how Formula E(lectric) that is supposed to have future of motorsport vibes had brought out brute force racing
Which is definitely planned. Like how the ban of use of data inputs & having a spec (all the same) chassis, largely brings down the total budget of the event, and being mostly street racing, makes it easier for 3rd world countries or countries not well known for a race track to hop in the game. And yeah, the unpredictability given fromm the racecraft, had them proving enough that sound isn't the only problem in modern f1.
Love the channel!
I'm not a formula e fan, though.
As soon as the fan boost and offline boost came into play.
There can be only one Mario kart
If people give Formula E a chance, they'll realise that it is genuinely so much better than Formula 1. The racing is closer, more competitive, the drivers push much harder, and the cars are surprisingly loud for electric vehicles, and they're only getting better.
Yes it's racing is better. But F1 as a whole is a gem. Better cars, tech and engineers in turn top notch drivers and when it's a close season, it's the BEST sport ref 2021, 2022 before Ferrari shat the bed and 2023 minus Redbull
Nope... The tracks in FormulaE mostly just suck. Tracks have gotten better but that is really not that much a praise; they used to be incredible stinkers in the past. But they still are too tight. I want them to have at least 1/3rd purpose built race tracks, the rest can be street tracks. I also would not mind one or two small ovals...
So u have never watched F1 ?????????
@@appellemoimoi No it isn't. We've had 12 years of the same teams dominating every single season. The cars aren't better, they're more complex. They sound like shit, yes you have excellent drivers but so does Formula E. And I'm sorry, but if you're using 2021, the year the FIA decided the championship by breaking their own rules, as proof F1 is superior then you've lost the argument already.
Too bad FE is literally unwatchable without extensive shortcuts
"saving energy" is not something fun to watch 💀
Damn, tens of millions of people watching f1…
in f1 they save tirewear, overtake, fuel.. EVERY racing category has some saving strategies to push in the needed moment.. it's not Mario kart.. they don't just press throttle and brake and some buttons on the wheel.. they think before passing someone..
go watch drag racing then
@@MattMajcan I dont think you understand what a drag race is Matt, in a drag race you go in a straight line there are no turns and there are only 2 cars per race.
I’m sure you can’t be that obliviously to think just because both have 4 wheels they are the same sport lol.
You must be a Redditor.
Me realizing formula e is better than f1 this year 😭 (But fair play to the FIA for creating formula E )
I came to this realization after the first three or so F1 races this year. What a time to be alive!
Up until the last race, it was looking to be the best title fight FE has ever had, one of the best I have seen in Formula since 2012 and then Evans ushered Cassidy into the run off. It's gonna be a difficult fight back for them now.
@@F1ll1nTh3Blanks it’s so close I can’t wait to see how they do in London
I would love you to make a video on how attack mode works
I bet if Formula e cars had engines people would accept the sport and see how good it really is. So many racing fans I know don't care for it purely because it's electric.
Its the boring bit where they are just save energy for the sprint race at the end that makes me not take it seriously.
I would rather they just made the races shorter and everybody went hell for leather for the entire race. That I would take seriously. And that would catch the eye of the people who dont like electric cars for racing...
The problem with Formula E is that in practice EVs cause about the same amount of environmetal impact F1 cars do, which means the whole patronizing angle about the environment is hypocrisy at best. Then you have all the half baked mechanics like Attack Mode, which is essentially Indy's Push to Pass but with DRS Mechanics and disavantages of both. EV based races would be way more interesting if they focused on the racing instead of all this other stuff no one cares about, especially when it's not true.
Make the car has a V10 ringtone and i will watch it
Been watching Formula E since day one and I can honestly say its a hundred times more entertaining and engaging then F1 is.
Yes, the lack of a combustible motor is somewhat lackluster, but the series makes up with lots of challenges and passing, the fact that you never know who is gonna be a WDC says it all. Also, FE only has one two time WDC, which shows how rare it is
At least they have actual close racing
so sad that formula E isn't on f1tv
shouldn't be surprising since fe has nothing to do with f1
@@weyounfive yeah but the prosche super cup is also on f1tv
@@soupchicken1313 well, porsche supercup is a f1 support series, so that makes sense
I think Formula E is still very young and with improvements in electricity storage tech, accompanied by other aspects things might not remain the way it is now. Anyway nice to know something about Formula E.