Child deaths in children books are common because back in days so many early fatalities through diseases, those little children lose their best friends sometimes and it happens a lot. Look at children movies in 90's you can see the pattern. I think the purpose here is teach and comfort them in those situations in their early lives. But necron annihilator beam is an interesting choice to depict children diseases.
I think it’s actually more appropriate. Yeah it’s dark but kids are aware of the trope of the laser weapon that turns you to ash. The Necron weapons aren’t much different. It’s better than him getting skinned alive by the Flayed ones
you dont get it, obviously a group of kids would get mauled down by any of these threats, but you have to remember that THESE kids are named characters.
Dark Eldar: Hey, your mom said you needed new clothes so I got you this new shirt. Timmy: Huh? Dark Eldar: Tosses Timmy a shirt made out of his mom's skin.
Tyranid: GAAAAAAAAHHHH! (My dear Gimmy, your sweet dead parents would like to have a word with you.) Gimmy: Huh? Tyranid: *Tosses Gimmy a Tervigon made from the biomass of his parents.*
Tech-Priest "We have done everything possible for your disabled kin. They are functional once more." Little Jimmy: "Grandpa...?" Grandpa-servitor: *[Pained moans]*
Just a note, but beastmen aren't Chaos mutants; they are sanctioned abhumans who descend from pre-unification humans who settled on hostile worlds and modified their DNA to better survive. There are plenty of Chaos aligned beastmen, though, as they are often shunned by the greater Imperium.
Yeah, I was wondering about that exact bit. I know that they are Chaos aligned in Fantasy but thought, as you just confirmed, it's a bit less clear in 40k. My understanding is that they are technically in the same category as ogryns and whatever the pseudo-halflings are. Near-Human subspecies who did mutate through generations of extreme conditions, not through chaos. Though their even less human appearance and tendency for barbaric, heretical culture means they are generally not accepted by the majority of the empire.
To be fair the child gang could more be something along the lines of a cluster of kids who join hands to survive in vents and stuff not exactly fighting in gang wars and shit
Could also be that they give tribute to the parent gang until they age out of the children's gang and become the youngest of the main gang. The kids take care of themselves, but stay relatively weak, all while getting stronger to eventually aid their would-be parents.
Amity is a child. This inquisitor. A grown ass man, employed gainfully, as a a protector of the imperium. One of the most well trained, disciplined, and lethal agents you could come to find in the universe... Is rivals... with a *child.* This like, 10year old little girl has this inquisitor in full gaslight mode, desperately seething about her. Amity isn't even old enough to buy smokes yet, and this *TAX PAYER* has *ACTUAL* beef with her. That's the funniest shit ever dude. You're cool.
You say all of that and I go "Yes, it is entirely plausible to me that someone in the 40kverse would swear blood vengeance on a child for some reason." That's just how 40k works, we deal.
Bros she's 10 If you really *DO* be in the *GRIM DARKNESS OF THE 41st MILLENIUM WHERE ALL THAT EXISTS IS WAR AND BLOOD AND DARKNESS AND MEANIES AND STINKY SMELLY POOPY HEADS* then just *shoot* her, bro lmfao It's just funny dude lmfao like, imagine Jason Borne *SEETHEING* because Dora the Explorer clowns on him.
@@lucagerulat307(looks at Death Troopers, the comics where people are mutated into horrifying monsters, the grey goo that possesses people and tortures parents by killing their children in front of them only to bring them back to life and kill them again repeatedly, the eldritch god, the eldritch horror that eats planets, the species that drains people’s souls and uses them as batteries, the species of ghosts that psychically screams into its victim’s minds while wearing a copy of their face and the Vong)
If they want to appeal for kids, they should lower prices first lol. 60 something USD for a box of 10 space marines is not something children or their parents will want to buy. And thats not including the paints.
@@mdb45424 Doesn't really help GW sell the game to kids, which was the point. Sure, WE know you can just proxy models. But a kid and their parents who only know the Warhammer brand aren't aware of alternatives. Moreover, any kid knows you don't want to be the one playing with Go-Bots when all the other kids have Transformers. (Hell, I don't think a lot of the Warhammer community ever outgrew that kind of elitism. With how some people seem offended by the idea of proxies.)
Little Jimmy works 16 hour shifts in the ammunition manufactorum polishing bolter casings, and little Susie works 12 hour shifts in the promethium processing facility cleaning fuel tanks. How much more does the God Emperor love Jimmy, than Susie ?
@@mystery_box1172 whoa there hold your horses. that'd mean I could also just not work and still be loved by the emperor and be faster at his side because I'll starve? win win
I could see a deathmark being written like this. Deathmarks are one of the tiers of Necron that actually have a personality and of the two we have examples of, one (Twice Dead King) is a conniving murderer who will happily kill whoever it needs to get whatever it wants. The other (pariah nexus) was more of your traditional cold and methodical assassin. That one showed active annoyance at the job it was assigned because it was seen as beneath it. Even went so far as to actively choose not to shoot civilians because they both weren’t on his list or worth the effort. All in all a mixed bag but it certainly is possible for a Necron Deathmark to behave like you described. - A Necron player who stacks doomstalkers.
A fourteen year old absolutely can handle the entirety of the setting. I first got into Warhammer when I was twelve or thirteen and enjoyed every part of it. Edit: I didn't plan on starting a war in the reply section, but here we are.
Zoomers aren't the same. 😂 I'm a youth minister. My kids use snapchat AI to write their essays. I had seniors who just graduated top of their class and didn't know their left from their right. True story. Their brains aren't really... sponges. Not by their own fault, mind you. Their minds are just packed full of crap they have picked up online. And rarely the stuff that matters. That's what happens when the internet raises an entire generation from birth.
You're cool. I can see ganger kids existing. Their gang would have to be subserviant to the gang actually in charge of the area giving tithe and intel, all the while when they age out joining the main adult gang.
I dont think its too mature for children. Death is a part of life, and as long as it isnt needlessly gorey or gruesome I think its fine. Then again, I'm in my 40s and have fond memories of lawn darts.
Just a symptom of the coddled nature of the 21st century. I remember when we got in trouble in grade school for making finger guns. Remember one news story where a kid got the cops called on him IN SCHOOL for biting his Pop Tart into a gun shape. World is too feminized.
In the UK in the 60s/70s we had a childrens' show called Captain Scarlet where characters would outright get shot and die nearly every episode, often for the purpose of the corpse being reanimated by the overarching alien menace, and then there's Joe 90, about a child spy who regularly shot and killed grown men in cold blood. Death is by no means an object in childrens' programming.
You know…for a “kids series”, I never would’ve thought an Inquisitor would’ve devolved into a fucking mass of Nurgle stuff, effectively off screen. Really dark stuff.
Why wouldn't a child gang fly on gang heavy worlds? Societies that have a lot of gangs have _always_ been swarmed with children either working for those gangs, or child gangs fully. Why? They could do things the adult gang members couldn't. They were worth their weight in crime, one could say.
Probably because the kid would just get shot for being in their own gang rather than absorbed into one of the adults. In hive cities, being on your own is a good way to die unless you can hold your own against a bunch of augmented drugged up criminals whose lack of craps to give about hurting kids is only surpassed by the night lords.
I think the idea is that an independent gang made up of children...Oliver Twist style...wouldn't fly because the adult gangs would just murder them and/or the kids would just be a part of the established gangs anyway.
@@tarektechmarine8209 It's more brutal in scope than the real world, but a lot of the more heinous stuff that happens in real life is simply ignored fully, because it's too depressing
Dude, being a kid in 2019 and listening to David Tennant read a 40K book was amazing. I know these books aren’t really anything really special, but they are a fantastic way to introduce younger people to this amazing hobby
Children entering this hobby? Are you kidding me? Have you seen the prices for the models or am I living in bizarro world? Parents won’t buy a $20 Marvel Legends or Black Series figure, ain’t no chance they’re gonna pay $50 for a pack of four Primaris marines and $5 for every paint they need. Low end income adults can’t even afford this hobby for themselves, in America anyway. Maybe GW gives Brits a homeland discount
@@Sara3346Underworlds is pretty great for getting new people into the hobby imo. $50 for the starter set which comes with everything u need to play the game and 2 warbands, and all the models are push-connect which makes the hobby part of things easier to get into. The rules are fairly simple too (compared to AOS, 40K, Killteam, or Warcry) which makes teaching someone to play really easy. Plus, the models can be used for AOS and they have their own special rules! Just wish Underworlds was more popular, it’s probably one of my favorite game systems made by GW
It would be cool if they'd make a series of books about a bunch of kids being turned into Space Marines with excruciating descriptions of trials and transformation process.
12:26 i mean when i was 10 i was into a series where serial killer killed 5 kids and the bodies were stufed into animatronic suits so i think this is fine
@@edmundthespiffing2920 From the literal start of the game it tells you that the animatronics will stuff you into the metallic suits to kill you and in the second game you find out that's cause they are the ghosts of kids a serial killer who did the same thing.
My local Games Workshop is near a private school and the kids there are a massive part of the customer base. Their parents will buy them Baneblades like it’s nothing.
My thing is the 40k books already have a lot of child protagonists. One of the protagonists of the space sharks book is a 14 year old in a prison gang on a prison colony mine world. His entire gang extorts him until space sharks literally blow all the teenagers away in seconds. A lot of 40k space marine centered stories that highlight their backstories often have them as children going through horrific stuff. Talos and Xarl from the nightlords were committing armed robbery, murder and assault at 11 and 12.
"Even Ciaphas Cain was a child soldier sent on suicide missions." Kinda, but not really. He was a student at the Schola Progenium when he was young. He even mentions playing in sports as a youngster. Those are more like military boarding schools. Cain was a full adult before he ever got his sash or saw combat.
@@Evil0tto nah in the books, they mention Cain gets a promotion and becomes a cadet captain of a detachment of child soldiers coming out of the schola progenium. They’re aged 13-18 and are put into combat situations. Check Cain’s Commisar Cadetts in Cain’s Last Stand.
Back in the 80s when I was about 10-12, my friends and I were obsessed with Robotech. It was our introduction to anime, and it had cool transforming mecha and weird aliens and epic space battles… and death. Not in most episodes, and none of it was super graphic, but it wasn’t rare and it wasn’t hidden. It was a show about war, and people died. Mostly one-off characters or crowds of innocent people, but sometimes major characters died-ones you’d grown attached to. Sometimes they died in acts of valiant self-sacrifice, but sometimes they died for stupid, pointless reasons, and other characters who cared about them would be haunted by their loss for the rest of the series-just like in real life. I think it was the first time I saw an animated action series on broadcast TV that didn’t treat me like a fragile idiot. In fact, I remember sitting at my grandmother’s house after her funeral and watching it while the grownups were in the kitchen squabbling about who got what trinket. Many kids that age are FASCINATED by death, and why shouldn’t they be? They’re old enough to know that it’s real and it’s important, and many of them have already experienced the loss of a loved one or neighbor. Kids want to understand and engage with death, and it can be an important part of their emotional growth-they just need safe, healthy ways to do so. I think a setting like 40k actually sounds pretty perfect for that: it’s fantastical enough to be fantasy, but real enough to be real.
For the sake of accuracy, Cavan Scott IS a 40K author and has been so since about 2013. He even wrote “Flayed”. If you’re a Death Spectres fan, you probably hate that story because of the really dark reveal of how they keep their numbers up which would obviously smear any Chapter’s reputation. For those who are darkly curious: They kidnap girls and take them to breeding worlds where they will be r@ped for the rest of their lives to produce potential candidates for Astartes recruitment.
@@mdb45424 like what?! Other than the horrible thing that Honsou did, what could possibly be worse than worlds of women being repeatedly r@ped and forced to bear children for the sake of the preservation of their oppressive overlords?! You could replace the Death Spectres with the Emperor’s Children in this story and nothing would be amiss!
Eh, animorphs is probably equivalent. Some of the stuff in those books is messed up, and I’m not just talking about the fact that they’re literal child soldiers. True body horror.
After having read _The Enemy_ by Charlie Higson (and the rest in the series) as a kid, I was myself surprised at how horrifyingly brutal "youth literature" can actually get. After a whole day of playing Half-Life 2 and Doom 3, it was those books that kept me awake at night. There's a lot of censorship when it comes to games and even films, there seems to be very little of that in books, and a lot of youth fiction is just as disturbing at times as would be adult fiction.
Hey Arthur, great video! I especially liked the coverage of the reception of the book series. It's impressive how you remained as objective and respectful (I wouldn't have XD) as you did. I wouldn't mind watching more videos like this since it's surprisingly rare to have obscure 40k books to be analyzed like this. I'm certain you can share some fascinating insight into otherwise unexplored aspects of the franchise.
I remember when I was 6 playing Dawn of war and seeing a Dreadnought Grab an ork and turn it into a bloody mist in the game. My dad being a space Wolf player. I was born into the hobby... I guess I have the final Fiddle though as I'm now a Battletech fanatic
Battletech is where classichammer fans coagulate out of a shared love for insane technical detail and actual political stakes in a neofeudal always-war-verse.
Yeah, I watched my brother play DOW when I was a mere child. Seeing how I turned out, I think reading these books really feels more 'nostalgic'(?) since it gives off that Animorphs vibes to some degree. Also hi Seek! (I know what you are)
Honestly, i think it's just jarring seeing children in the 40k setting. I'm pretty sure just having a kid in M42 is de facto child abuse. Kids eat that dark shit up, though, i remember being in elementary school and reading Deltora Quest and Animorphs and shit and being like YEAH I LOVE MURDER AND DEATH Wait i'm sorry the scumbag gets eaten by a what P.S. You're cool
It isn't child abuse, all those little five years old are living the fullest extend of their rights, (far more than any of us) to live and die for the GOD-EMPORER of Mankind. Think of the Krieg babies crawling their way onto mines to kill a platoon of Orcs, how can you call that child abuse?
I imagine it like having children during the industrial revolution, you dont have kids for the sake of having kids, you have them, and often tens of them because you desperately need another worker to bring in every cent of income they can make the second they can walk just to keep the parent's heads above the water and survive
Introducing an item that could solve the Necrons' biotransferrence problem and then destroying it IN A KIDS SERIES is quite possibly the funniest thing they could've done, and I'm so, so glad they did it.
a lone deathmark would struggle too take out a full squad of guardsmen unless it had a massive positional advantage actually... Too be fair though if the perfect position exists that deathmark is in it.
Love the long form. Helps that we actually get the whole of the story and not just a very brief overview. I really appreciated all of your chapter videos that were put together in one lump. I got to just put that on and paint my Templars just enjoying how you tell stories. This one was great to listen to when I would drive myself into work in the morning. Just made a week of it. So thank you. I know they're probably harder to make, but they are great for me.
The only actual issue I have with this, based on getting the rundown of the series, is that Jokaero don’t have language or really a means to communicate in any sophisticated manner. They’re more or else just literal apes with ape intelligence that have a savant-like ability to work with technology. It’s basically like giving a real orangutan some simple tools, only except working out how to saw a piece of wood in half, it figures out how to fit a laser cannon into a ring.
you're cool honestly I was always interested in knowing more about these books because I find the idea of making warhammer 40k's setting presentable to kids to be so fascinating.
Come to think of it, I was 9-10 when I got into warhammer fantasy, being introduced via a friend's Hordes of Chaos army book and then collecting Vampire Counts and all their creepy undead stuff. Was also looking at 40k stuff. So the age range is pretty spot on. I think think the cartoon artwork and child characters are what caused the knee-jerk reaction.
As a dad and uncle, I'm really glad you made this video. My daughter likes painting with me and I've bought my nephew the young adventurers dnd books, I wouldn't really want to buy these 40k children's books myself but after listening to this, I may buy them and Read them before deciding if what age they may be good for my kid
Im not one to take issue of any kind with portioning off a slice of a franchise to be made accessible to children But I find the idea of warhammer for children just absurd not necessarily in a "thats bad dont do that" kind of way but more like a "okay but why though" way
I know it was a cash grab but honestly I think this is cool for parents who are into the hobby who want to share this thing that they really enjoy with their child, but not necessarily~ all~ of the aspects of it. My dad really wanted to paint miniatures with me cuz I was a very artsy kid but because of the Grim darkness my mom forbid it.
@@elizaRose8900 I guess yeah on the hobby side its cool just whoever made the initial connection between warhammer and children, I wonder what they were thinking yknow outside of "theres money to be made there"
@@CaptainPrincess probably over heard a coworker or someone out in public talking about their kid . Or their own kid came home with one of those weirdly dark kids books. I mean ever think how messed up some of those goosebumps books actually are ?
@@elizaRose8900 honestly no I havent thought about them lol they sit in the back of my mind as "now that Im an adult theyre not actually scary, there was a burnt guy in a swimming pool once I think"
@@CaptainPrincess there was one that was the psychological terror of being meticulously hunted by intelligent apes that wanted to eat their flesh.. There was one that ended with the kid laying an alien egg, which if you think about it for more than a minute means he got the " gene stealer" treatment. These are books for elementary school children. There was alien s*x assault in a book for elementary school children.
@@Sara3346they’re meant to be an elite long range sniper type unit, but in practice I can only think of a handful of scenarios where they’re better then a standard unit of warriors or immortals
I jumped into the Warhammer books in late middle school / early high school, and it was an incredibly smooth transition that didn't require any handholding because I started with the Ragnar Blackmane Space Wolf stories after reading through all of Redwall and Brian Jacques' literature. The similarities between the Bloodwrath (experienced by Martin, Matthias, and the Lords of Salamandastron) and the inner struggles of the Space Wolves made the concept of the Wulfen far easier for me to process than it may have been in other circumstances.
I keep hearing the creaking of the chair you sit on (or whatever it is) while narrating and its... Kinda atmospheric. Like someone genuinely talking about something and moving around because of this stream of information that is being talked about. I would say it's a technical issue, but no, it's quite comfy and wholesome.
I like you think there would be no violent child clans of vicious gangers who are monsters in children form in Necromunda when the reality is they would be far *more* prevalent. Whatever pleasant thought that made you think that wasn't possible can be ejected now because people suck more than you think.
It's the society we live in, we get the benefits of those before us who did work in coal mines. 14 years old as far as 200 years ago was concerned was ready for war, 40k can be desperate at times far more than our world.
I think his argument was a gang of children wouldn't be able to hold their own against adults, but that's a bad argument, historically and even today child gangsters are a thing, either as a youth wing of an adult gang or a separate gang in service to an adult one.
I enjoyed this vid, was fun learning about this since I legit never knew this existed, plus It was fun to know David Tennant and a Doctor who writer collabed for a 40k work
9-12 is pretty inline lol I was reading books about vampires having wars of genocide against each other and world war 1 alt fiction that had chimera abominations fighting mechs around these ages and i got those books from the school library (cirque du freak and the Leviathan trilogy for those wondering) both books had very graphic deaths like the main character gets his neck snapped in the first cirque book so they can fake his death to his family and he discusses the potential of the doctor doing an autopsy on his body 😅
I know WH40k is a very mature setting but books set in the universe where the setting is toned down don't seem to be so bad. Not every waking moment in WH40k is hell.
1. Love the longer format 🦾, cheers mate! 2. Thank you(!) for covering these. 3. Enjoy the choice of background music and sound edit, makes listening in headphones quite nice THANK YOU
You're cool! Interesting video, I've been considering adding some of the Warhammer books to my "to-read" list since I've spent so long being a tourist with lore videos and whatnot. I'll probably go with Gotrek and Felix first, but might also add these.
I can't believe you spent a full hour and a half on a video for the Warhammer kids books and that I also stayed through and watched the whole thing. I guess we're both cool.
I'm cool. You're cool. This was actually my first video on your channel, the algorithm recommended it and I was very curious about the subject matter since I remember when they were released and the backlash that popped up online. It's nice to get a summary that gave a fair run down!
I'm assuming that Skitarius is a play on the Latin word Scutarius. Scutarius comes from the word "scutum" which means shield, so a Scutarius is a "person who fights using a shield." "Scire" is Latin for "to know," so a "Scitarius" would be "person who fights using knowledge." I'm assuming they just changed the C to a K to be cool. But yeah, if it's based off of Latin, "Skitarii" would be changed to "Skitarius" to make it singular. Also, you wouldn't pronounce Skitarii "ski-tar-ee," you'd pronounce it "ski-tar-ee-eye." Anyway, you're a dork! Which is why I'm subbed.
You’re cool for doing a review of this series. It was an interesting experiment to try and find a way to get kids into warhammer. It just feels unfocused and like they didn’t have faith in it as a project so it got cut short and abandoned.
So, I've been listening to this while farming relics on Warframe, and.... Gotta say, the Necron bit made me raise my eyes and turn to STARE at the screen about the Diadem. Like... That is some fucking Yuvan selection process with Kuva fuckery there in Plague of Nurglings. So Legitly speaking, you are pretty solid and cool in putting ya self through that rough chaos to read the books and learning the secret truths of how fucking DARK things can get.
You’re cool! Thanks for shedding some light on this because I didn’t know these existed. Also this reminds me of that meme clip live from the black library used in their humanities best Allie video.
Hard agree, there is a surprising number of bodies in fiction. Some notes from the Redwall series, the one with the medieval woodland creatures: -A comedic rat stabbed in the neck by a spear as their friend watches -Multiple "creative" executions, such as being h**g in a river to keep swimming, or being forced to eat a whole bird, bones and all -Multiple scenes where we watch a hero pass from their wounds, albeit stoicly. -medieval warfare in general. The first book had the heroes flush out an enemy tunnel by dumping boiling water into it ( for any folks confused, the animated series changed it to Porridge ) That's a series that, by most accounts, is kid appropriate, but is full of some brutal violence. IDK if it's just the layer of fiction that protects kids, or just as an adult we can better see that each death is happening to another person, but Kids Fantasy has never been bloodless.
Well this does interest me slightly because I don't think that I've ever heard anyone talk about this in any substantial way. It's kinda of wacky that all of that happened within the books and it's a bit darker than one would expect, If I ever do the time maybe I'll check them out. Anyway your cool, see ya next video.
Also this series having a cure to the bio transference is on its own a loose end but in the greater necron lore is tied up since they have had "cures" but never worked properly with either the body used being burned out shortly afterwards or just ultimately not working as intended
Know what's really funny about these books? In secrets of the tau, they show that Kroot can live on Imperial words(which is true to canon, its just very rare), and they use this to push the narrative that the Imperium are the good guys and that immigration isn't always a good thing.
An hour and a half of pure unadulterated cringe? Not even we are that inhuman. And we bomb planets! Jokes aside, love the longer form content. Makes for great study bgm
You’re cool. I had no idea this series even existed. I’m admittedly not surprised that the books were at least okay. The Dragonback series by Timothy Zahn was a children’s book series with a similar concept, bouncing around from planet to planet and having mini-adventurers while trying to resolve an objective set up in the first book. There was definitely potential for this to work in WH40K.
I think something that helps the books be less dark for kids is that when the book sort of glosses over the grimdark stuff, us as adults know what is actually going on between the lines when kids might not notice it. Stills seems on the dark side but not much more than some other kids books like Goosebumps.
Erabus would be a goofy villian for them to deal with, heck they could revive sindri and lord bale and go into the memes to water them down a bit- id love that.
you're cool. also thank you for covering these books, i read them when they were released and thought i was going insane with how much people shit-talking it. you make me feel validated, thank you.
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Excellent job. You're probably the best wh lore breakdown yter out atm.
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Child deaths in children books are common because back in days so many early fatalities through diseases, those little children lose their best friends sometimes and it happens a lot. Look at children movies in 90's you can see the pattern. I think the purpose here is teach and comfort them in those situations in their early lives. But necron annihilator beam is an interesting choice to depict children diseases.
I think it’s actually more appropriate. Yeah it’s dark but kids are aware of the trope of the laser weapon that turns you to ash. The Necron weapons aren’t much different. It’s better than him getting skinned alive by the Flayed ones
Lmao that last sentence killed me
Similarly to how the necron atom gun killed the child
One example.
"Freak the Mighty."
@@gabrielpardo4229 good book, sad
@dr.stronk9857
You understand why they lied to the child, but someone really should have sat down with the friend afterward.
you dont get it, obviously a group of kids would get mauled down by any of these threats, but you have to remember that THESE kids are named characters.
Plot shield is also found in regular Warhammer.
@@thescandinavian8339 congrats! You understood the joke 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Bragg was named character.
And none of them is using a helment
Space Marine: Hi, Jimmy, your parents said "Hello"
Jimmy: huh?
Space Marine... Tosses Jimmy a large can of corpse starch.
Dark Eldar: Hey, your mom said you needed new clothes so I got you this new shirt.
Timmy: Huh?
Dark Eldar: Tosses Timmy a shirt made out of his mom's skin.
What upstanding individuals X-D
Tyranid: GAAAAAAAAHHHH! (My dear Gimmy, your sweet dead parents would like to have a word with you.)
Gimmy: Huh?
Tyranid: *Tosses Gimmy a Tervigon made from the biomass of his parents.*
Emperors children: we have such sights to show you
Timmy: 😬
Tech-Priest
"We have done everything possible for your disabled kin. They are functional once more."
Little Jimmy:
"Grandpa...?"
Grandpa-servitor:
*[Pained moans]*
Just a note, but beastmen aren't Chaos mutants; they are sanctioned abhumans who descend from pre-unification humans who settled on hostile worlds and modified their DNA to better survive.
There are plenty of Chaos aligned beastmen, though, as they are often shunned by the greater Imperium.
Yeah, I was wondering about that exact bit. I know that they are Chaos aligned in Fantasy but thought, as you just confirmed, it's a bit less clear in 40k. My understanding is that they are technically in the same category as ogryns and whatever the pseudo-halflings are. Near-Human subspecies who did mutate through generations of extreme conditions, not through chaos. Though their even less human appearance and tendency for barbaric, heretical culture means they are generally not accepted by the majority of the empire.
I believe in the vein of technicality, tzaangors are beastmen and obviously aligned with Tzeentch. That’s just a prominent example from my memory
To be fair the child gang could more be something along the lines of a cluster of kids who join hands to survive in vents and stuff not exactly fighting in gang wars and shit
I'm thinking futurama when fry and his ex girlfriend find the "tribe" of wild children lol
Could also be that they give tribute to the parent gang until they age out of the children's gang and become the youngest of the main gang. The kids take care of themselves, but stay relatively weak, all while getting stronger to eventually aid their would-be parents.
I meam in the end they dead so... lol@@LegendStormcrow
Street urchins have always existed why not in the grim dark future
There are literally child gangs in 40k Talos from the night lords and his champion Xarl were gangsters as 5th graders
Amity is a child.
This inquisitor. A grown ass man, employed gainfully, as a a protector of the imperium. One of the most well trained, disciplined, and lethal agents you could come to find in the universe...
Is rivals... with a *child.* This like, 10year old little girl has this inquisitor in full gaslight mode, desperately seething about her.
Amity isn't even old enough to buy smokes yet, and this *TAX PAYER* has *ACTUAL* beef with her.
That's the funniest shit ever dude. You're cool.
You say all of that and I go "Yes, it is entirely plausible to me that someone in the 40kverse would swear blood vengeance on a child for some reason." That's just how 40k works, we deal.
U wouldn't bat an eye at something like that even in the normal books, that shit tracks for how petty inquisitors are
Bros she's 10
If you really *DO* be in the *GRIM DARKNESS OF THE 41st MILLENIUM WHERE ALL THAT EXISTS IS WAR AND BLOOD AND DARKNESS AND MEANIES AND STINKY SMELLY POOPY HEADS* then just *shoot* her, bro lmfao
It's just funny dude lmfao like, imagine Jason Borne *SEETHEING* because Dora the Explorer clowns on him.
An Inquisitor tried to get a whole Astartes chapter wiped out, just out of pure beef, they are absolutely that petty.
Least petty Inquisitor
"These books don't have dark themes" mfers when the theme is literally child soldiers lol.
but do they address that fact?
ONE of them *would* have been a child soldier, but fled.
@@thespacemarine247 a traitor then. No sympathy.
Same as star wars kids books oh sorry your dad died and now your stranded on a planet with the space terrorist that murdered your father.
@@lucagerulat307(looks at Death Troopers, the comics where people are mutated into horrifying monsters, the grey goo that possesses people and tortures parents by killing their children in front of them only to bring them back to life and kill them again repeatedly, the eldritch god, the eldritch horror that eats planets, the species that drains people’s souls and uses them as batteries, the species of ghosts that psychically screams into its victim’s minds while wearing a copy of their face and the Vong)
Child to necron overlord: "um im literally neurodivergent and a minor"
Necron overlord: "i think that insect is making its noises at me. Oh well"
If they want to appeal for kids, they should lower prices first lol.
60 something USD for a box of 10 space marines is not something children or their parents will want to buy. And thats not including the paints.
proxy, still need to get the core rules and the codex so its a still expensive
Yeah, hate that you can't just Personally Do Fstuff to get those rules... shame that you can't get them someway that sidesteps GW's overpriced paper.
completely agree. most my army is kit bashed or second hand. i dont even care about the kids. i just want lower prices
Your wahapedia bro?
@@mdb45424 Doesn't really help GW sell the game to kids, which was the point.
Sure, WE know you can just proxy models. But a kid and their parents who only know the Warhammer brand aren't aware of alternatives. Moreover, any kid knows you don't want to be the one playing with Go-Bots when all the other kids have Transformers. (Hell, I don't think a lot of the Warhammer community ever outgrew that kind of elitism. With how some people seem offended by the idea of proxies.)
Little Jimmy works 16 hour shifts in the ammunition manufactorum polishing bolter casings, and little Susie works 12 hour shifts in the promethium processing facility cleaning fuel tanks.
How much more does the God Emperor love Jimmy, than Susie ?
Neither! For the Emperor loves all his subjects.
@@mystery_box1172 whoa there hold your horses. that'd mean I could also just not work and still be loved by the emperor and be faster at his side because I'll starve? win win
"For the Emperor!"
- Kid scorching ants with a magnifying glass
Ah to see a child train to kill tyranids in the emperor's name. We should all strive to have the zeal of a child.
@@madmalkavian3857 😂
"I'm doing my part !"
-Kid stomping coockroaches with glitter shoes.
I could see a deathmark being written like this. Deathmarks are one of the tiers of Necron that actually have a personality and of the two we have examples of, one (Twice Dead King) is a conniving murderer who will happily kill whoever it needs to get whatever it wants. The other (pariah nexus) was more of your traditional cold and methodical assassin. That one showed active annoyance at the job it was assigned because it was seen as beneath it. Even went so far as to actively choose not to shoot civilians because they both weren’t on his list or worth the effort.
All in all a mixed bag but it certainly is possible for a Necron Deathmark to behave like you described.
- A Necron player who stacks doomstalkers.
A fourteen year old absolutely can handle the entirety of the setting. I first got into Warhammer when I was twelve or thirteen and enjoyed every part of it.
Edit: I didn't plan on starting a war in the reply section, but here we are.
Zoomers aren't the same. 😂 I'm a youth minister. My kids use snapchat AI to write their essays. I had seniors who just graduated top of their class and didn't know their left from their right. True story. Their brains aren't really... sponges. Not by their own fault, mind you. Their minds are just packed full of crap they have picked up online. And rarely the stuff that matters. That's what happens when the internet raises an entire generation from birth.
Not to claim the setting is that complex, but I don't think fourteen year olds can really handle the entirety of anything
Daemonculaba
@@RECTANGLE339 With all due respect, I am currently fourteen.
@@spencernoffke8259 What about it?
I was flashbanged by the words, "...Meki piloting a T'au Crisis Suit..."
You're cool.
I can see ganger kids existing. Their gang would have to be subserviant to the gang actually in charge of the area giving tithe and intel, all the while when they age out joining the main adult gang.
Babbie bangers are a real thing unfortunately
Sounds nostraman
@@stoops187literally Talos and Xarl’s backstories. Or any Nostroman night lords…. This was a funny point by bones
@@oogskskfn I think the difference is the Nostroman gangs are run by adults even if they recruit children
@@sawspitfire422 that’s a good point
Necromunda gangs used to have members called “youths”. They’re usually early teenagers to mid twenties.
I dont think its too mature for children. Death is a part of life, and as long as it isnt needlessly gorey or gruesome I think its fine. Then again, I'm in my 40s and have fond memories of lawn darts.
What is with people protecting children from telling them what death is? You introduce it as is. Where does your food and freedom come from?
Just a symptom of the coddled nature of the 21st century. I remember when we got in trouble in grade school for making finger guns. Remember one news story where a kid got the cops called on him IN SCHOOL for biting his Pop Tart into a gun shape. World is too feminized.
Watership down is a classic British kid story and this is less intense than that story.
Fuck me, man, I grew up in eastern europe, NOTHING scares me after soviet cartoons and kids movies
In the UK in the 60s/70s we had a childrens' show called Captain Scarlet where characters would outright get shot and die nearly every episode, often for the purpose of the corpse being reanimated by the overarching alien menace, and then there's Joe 90, about a child spy who regularly shot and killed grown men in cold blood. Death is by no means an object in childrens' programming.
Mechi sounds like a slur for the mechanics
You know…for a “kids series”, I never would’ve thought an Inquisitor would’ve devolved into a fucking mass of Nurgle stuff, effectively off screen. Really dark stuff.
that's just the 40k version of "that person i don't like is a big poo-poo"
A servo sprite is probably just built on the skull of a child.
Considering cherub servitors are a thing, that's entirely possible.
Why wouldn't a child gang fly on gang heavy worlds? Societies that have a lot of gangs have _always_ been swarmed with children either working for those gangs, or child gangs fully. Why? They could do things the adult gang members couldn't. They were worth their weight in crime, one could say.
Arthur is being unfortunately sheltered
@@mementomori771 40k is a lot more brutal in than the real world for the fact that the real world for many is this age of peace.
Probably because the kid would just get shot for being in their own gang rather than absorbed into one of the adults. In hive cities, being on your own is a good way to die unless you can hold your own against a bunch of augmented drugged up criminals whose lack of craps to give about hurting kids is only surpassed by the night lords.
I think the idea is that an independent gang made up of children...Oliver Twist style...wouldn't fly because the adult gangs would just murder them and/or the kids would just be a part of the established gangs anyway.
@@tarektechmarine8209 It's more brutal in scope than the real world, but a lot of the more heinous stuff that happens in real life is simply ignored fully, because it's too depressing
15:45 The Predator 2018
"Autism is the next stage of Human evolution!"
My thoughts exactly
Dude, being a kid in 2019 and listening to David Tennant read a 40K book was amazing.
I know these books aren’t really anything really special, but they are a fantastic way to introduce younger people to this amazing hobby
You’re cool and love the video man
Children entering this hobby? Are you kidding me? Have you seen the prices for the models or am I living in bizarro world? Parents won’t buy a $20 Marvel Legends or Black Series figure, ain’t no chance they’re gonna pay $50 for a pack of four Primaris marines and $5 for every paint they need. Low end income adults can’t even afford this hobby for themselves, in America anyway. Maybe GW gives Brits a homeland discount
@@jasoninthehood9726Maybe Killteam? Maybe one of those stripped down boardgame versions?
40k (wargame) isn't the only 40k game itself per say?
@@Sara3346Underworlds is pretty great for getting new people into the hobby imo. $50 for the starter set which comes with everything u need to play the game and 2 warbands, and all the models are push-connect which makes the hobby part of things easier to get into. The rules are fairly simple too (compared to AOS, 40K, Killteam, or Warcry) which makes teaching someone to play really easy. Plus, the models can be used for AOS and they have their own special rules! Just wish Underworlds was more popular, it’s probably one of my favorite game systems made by GW
@@jasoninthehood9726You know that they just con, read books and play vidya?
That's what I did when I was introduced to 40k at 15-16 years old
Children cant handle grimdark
*my second grade ass being read Animorphs*
Why did I watch a grown man talk about a children series for an hour and a half while I (also a grown man) painted little figurines.
Pretty cool
Lol
Holy shit your here
Krak as in the grenade or as in the special sugar
so we can indoctrinate our offspring for the emprah
Dad?
It would be cool if they'd make a series of books about a bunch of kids being turned into Space Marines with excruciating descriptions of trials and transformation process.
12:26 i mean when i was 10 i was into a series where serial killer killed 5 kids and the bodies were stufed into animatronic suits so i think this is fine
That's actually canon or Mattpatt mattpatting all over the place?
@@edmundthespiffing2920 Yes, its a core lore actually
@@edmundthespiffing2920 It’s even in the PG-13 movie.
i grew up on buzzfeed unsolved, god of war, and stuff like fnaf
@@edmundthespiffing2920 From the literal start of the game it tells you that the animatronics will stuff you into the metallic suits to kill you and in the second game you find out that's cause they are the ghosts of kids a serial killer who did the same thing.
My local Games Workshop is near a private school and the kids there are a massive part of the customer base. Their parents will buy them Baneblades like it’s nothing.
My thing is the 40k books already have a lot of child protagonists. One of the protagonists of the space sharks book is a 14 year old in a prison gang on a prison colony mine world. His entire gang extorts him until space sharks literally blow all the teenagers away in seconds.
A lot of 40k space marine centered stories that highlight their backstories often have them as children going through horrific stuff. Talos and Xarl from the nightlords were committing armed robbery, murder and assault at 11 and 12.
Space marines are all child soldiers - I mean, they physically grow, but many of them have a major case of arrested development and lack maturity
"Even Ciaphas Cain was a child soldier sent on suicide missions."
Kinda, but not really. He was a student at the Schola Progenium when he was young. He even mentions playing in sports as a youngster. Those are more like military boarding schools. Cain was a full adult before he ever got his sash or saw combat.
@@Evil0tto nah in the books, they mention Cain gets a promotion and becomes a cadet captain of a detachment of child soldiers coming out of the schola progenium. They’re aged 13-18 and are put into combat situations.
Check Cain’s Commisar Cadetts in Cain’s Last Stand.
@@oogskskfnThat’s… very much misunderstood.
He wasn’t one of the child soldiers, he was *commanding* the child soldiers; they were his students.
@ Ah, apologies then. I’ll edit it.
Back in the 80s when I was about 10-12, my friends and I were obsessed with Robotech. It was our introduction to anime, and it had cool transforming mecha and weird aliens and epic space battles… and death. Not in most episodes, and none of it was super graphic, but it wasn’t rare and it wasn’t hidden. It was a show about war, and people died. Mostly one-off characters or crowds of innocent people, but sometimes major characters died-ones you’d grown attached to. Sometimes they died in acts of valiant self-sacrifice, but sometimes they died for stupid, pointless reasons, and other characters who cared about them would be haunted by their loss for the rest of the series-just like in real life.
I think it was the first time I saw an animated action series on broadcast TV that didn’t treat me like a fragile idiot. In fact, I remember sitting at my grandmother’s house after her funeral and watching it while the grownups were in the kitchen squabbling about who got what trinket.
Many kids that age are FASCINATED by death, and why shouldn’t they be? They’re old enough to know that it’s real and it’s important, and many of them have already experienced the loss of a loved one or neighbor. Kids want to understand and engage with death, and it can be an important part of their emotional growth-they just need safe, healthy ways to do so. I think a setting like 40k actually sounds pretty perfect for that: it’s fantastical enough to be fantasy, but real enough to be real.
For the sake of accuracy, Cavan Scott IS a 40K author and has been so since about 2013. He even wrote “Flayed”. If you’re a Death Spectres fan, you probably hate that story because of the really dark reveal of how they keep their numbers up which would obviously smear any Chapter’s reputation.
For those who are darkly curious: They kidnap girls and take them to breeding worlds where they will be r@ped for the rest of their lives to produce potential candidates for Astartes recruitment.
That's horrifyingly efficient, good thing he left those types of details from the book but we know the implications are grim.
@@notani3533 sure we do, the teenager would think cool. It's best they do leave it out, then they can discover it themselves.
worse things have been done for recuirtment
@@mdb45424 like what?! Other than the horrible thing that Honsou did, what could possibly be worse than worlds of women being repeatedly r@ped and forced to bear children for the sake of the preservation of their oppressive overlords?! You could replace the Death Spectres with the Emperor’s Children in this story and nothing would be amiss!
@@riokollivier think about plague marines and what they have to do to recruit
There’s some WEIRD deep cuts in these books I wasn’t expecting
Image someone doing one of these bad boys for an elementary school book report
I did a middle school book report on Eisenhorn Xenos😂
@@kuroshine what grade you got on it
@kuroshine we need to know this
@@bohemianearspoon8493 I got an A, my teacher approved the book for my reading assignment
@@kuroshine nice I wouldn’t expect any other grade
Warhammer children’s books is like taking the diary of ann franke and turning it into a doc mcstuffins sideplot.
Eh, animorphs is probably equivalent. Some of the stuff in those books is messed up, and I’m not just talking about the fact that they’re literal child soldiers. True body horror.
with all due respect mr bones if you think horrific violence is unusual for kids books i assume you didnt read many books as a kid
Yea i kinda got the same vibe lol
It was spoken by somebody who never read Animorphs…or Bone
Its like he’s only familiar with 80s cartoons
Me as a nine year old reading the original Jurassic park because i liked dinosaurs:
After having read _The Enemy_ by Charlie Higson (and the rest in the series) as a kid, I was myself surprised at how horrifyingly brutal "youth literature" can actually get. After a whole day of playing Half-Life 2 and Doom 3, it was those books that kept me awake at night. There's a lot of censorship when it comes to games and even films, there seems to be very little of that in books, and a lot of youth fiction is just as disturbing at times as would be adult fiction.
Hey Arthur, great video! I especially liked the coverage of the reception of the book series. It's impressive how you remained as objective and respectful (I wouldn't have XD) as you did. I wouldn't mind watching more videos like this since it's surprisingly rare to have obscure 40k books to be analyzed like this. I'm certain you can share some fascinating insight into otherwise unexplored aspects of the franchise.
I remember when I was 6 playing Dawn of war and seeing a Dreadnought Grab an ork and turn it into a bloody mist in the game. My dad being a space Wolf player. I was born into the hobby...
I guess I have the final Fiddle though as I'm now a Battletech fanatic
Battletech is where classichammer fans coagulate out of a shared love for insane technical detail and actual political stakes in a neofeudal always-war-verse.
Yeah, I watched my brother play DOW when I was a mere child. Seeing how I turned out, I think reading these books really feels more 'nostalgic'(?) since it gives off that Animorphs vibes to some degree.
Also hi Seek! (I know what you are)
@@TherealJumper hi :3
"I don't wanna throw shade" continues to throw shade...
Honestly, i think it's just jarring seeing children in the 40k setting. I'm pretty sure just having a kid in M42 is de facto child abuse. Kids eat that dark shit up, though, i remember being in elementary school and reading Deltora Quest and Animorphs and shit and being like YEAH I LOVE MURDER AND DEATH
Wait i'm sorry the scumbag gets eaten by a what
P.S. You're cool
It isn't child abuse, all those little five years old are living the fullest extend of their rights, (far more than any of us) to live and die for the GOD-EMPORER of Mankind.
Think of the Krieg babies crawling their way onto mines to kill a platoon of Orcs, how can you call that child abuse?
kids interested in adult stuff will probably reject these products as patronizing
Bro Deltora Quest was my jam
All the best children's books contain messed up stuff.
I imagine it like having children during the industrial revolution, you dont have kids for the sake of having kids, you have them, and often tens of them because you desperately need another worker to bring in every cent of income they can make the second they can walk just to keep the parent's heads above the water and survive
Introducing an item that could solve the Necrons' biotransferrence problem and then destroying it IN A KIDS SERIES is quite possibly the funniest thing they could've done, and I'm so, so glad they did it.
"soft as puppy toes" has now entered my lexicon.
Wow didn’t think you would be here cool
oh hey... It's you!
thats old saying, glad its still getting some play.
49:53
OZ?????????????
a lone deathmark would struggle too take out a full squad of guardsmen unless it had a massive positional advantage actually... Too be fair though if the perfect position exists that deathmark is in it.
Love the long form. Helps that we actually get the whole of the story and not just a very brief overview. I really appreciated all of your chapter videos that were put together in one lump. I got to just put that on and paint my Templars just enjoying how you tell stories. This one was great to listen to when I would drive myself into work in the morning. Just made a week of it. So thank you. I know they're probably harder to make, but they are great for me.
The only actual issue I have with this, based on getting the rundown of the series, is that Jokaero don’t have language or really a means to communicate in any sophisticated manner. They’re more or else just literal apes with ape intelligence that have a savant-like ability to work with technology. It’s basically like giving a real orangutan some simple tools, only except working out how to saw a piece of wood in half, it figures out how to fit a laser cannon into a ring.
8 year old me read the 2nd 3rd edition chaos codex almost every day, and I came out mildly ok.
do you still got it?
You’re doing great.
@@HappyNoob17YT yeah
"Man these books seem really stu-IS THAT DAVID TENNANT READING THE BOOK!?!?!?!?!!"
you're cool
honestly I was always interested in knowing more about these books because I find the idea of making warhammer 40k's setting presentable to kids to be so fascinating.
How many of us do you think actually made it to the end
Come to think of it, I was 9-10 when I got into warhammer fantasy, being introduced via a friend's Hordes of Chaos army book and then collecting Vampire Counts and all their creepy undead stuff. Was also looking at 40k stuff. So the age range is pretty spot on. I think think the cartoon artwork and child characters are what caused the knee-jerk reaction.
As a dad and uncle, I'm really glad you made this video. My daughter likes painting with me and I've bought my nephew the young adventurers dnd books, I wouldn't really want to buy these 40k children's books myself but after listening to this, I may buy them and Read them before deciding if what age they may be good for my kid
YOU'RE COOOOOL! ;)
Thanks for doing these... I was curious about them and you've saved my sanity with what little free reading time I have.
7:25 ... not gonna lie, I didn't catch that that was a brace and not a full cybernetic.
Yeah it was pretty subtle
You're cool, Arthur Bones. Thanks for reading these things so I don't have to.
Im not one to take issue of any kind with portioning off a slice of a franchise to be made accessible to children
But I find the idea of warhammer for children just absurd
not necessarily in a "thats bad dont do that" kind of way but more like a "okay but why though" way
I know it was a cash grab but honestly I think this is cool for parents who are into the hobby who want to share this thing that they really enjoy with their child, but not necessarily~ all~ of the aspects of it.
My dad really wanted to paint miniatures with me cuz I was a very artsy kid but because of the Grim darkness my mom forbid it.
@@elizaRose8900 I guess yeah on the hobby side its cool just
whoever made the initial connection between warhammer and children, I wonder what they were thinking yknow
outside of "theres money to be made there"
@@CaptainPrincess probably over heard a coworker or someone out in public talking about their kid . Or their own kid came home with one of those weirdly dark kids books. I mean ever think how messed up some of those goosebumps books actually are ?
@@elizaRose8900 honestly no I havent thought about them lol
they sit in the back of my mind as "now that Im an adult theyre not actually scary, there was a burnt guy in a swimming pool once I think"
@@CaptainPrincess there was one that was the psychological terror of being meticulously hunted by intelligent apes that wanted to eat their flesh.. There was one that ended with the kid laying an alien egg, which if you think about it for more than a minute means he got the " gene stealer" treatment. These are books for elementary school children. There was alien s*x assault in a book for elementary school children.
Randomly found your videos and I’ve been binge watching them some thing about your voice is very soothing in the background
honestly; knowing the Deathmarks statline... It makes sense that he's got problems with a bunch of kids
I don't know enough about necrons, is it an especially slow unit?
@@Sara3346they’re meant to be an elite long range sniper type unit, but in practice I can only think of a handful of scenarios where they’re better then a standard unit of warriors or immortals
@trs8%2F-wuw%2Cymuvu%60e%2Ccmm-cjalngl-UASScFgCQVfSo7DarvlTHZ3C it's just really really bad
deathmarks are assasins that can teleport and have a pocket space. I assume it lost it guns
@@mdb45424 nah, they are just really really bad
You're cool, @TheBoneZone40k, you're pretty darn cool. I unironically really enjoyed this deep-dive! Keep on killing it with these uploads, brother!
I jumped into the Warhammer books in late middle school / early high school, and it was an incredibly smooth transition that didn't require any handholding because I started with the Ragnar Blackmane Space Wolf stories after reading through all of Redwall and Brian Jacques' literature.
The similarities between the Bloodwrath (experienced by Martin, Matthias, and the Lords of Salamandastron) and the inner struggles of the Space Wolves made the concept of the Wulfen far easier for me to process than it may have been in other circumstances.
I keep hearing the creaking of the chair you sit on (or whatever it is) while narrating and its... Kinda atmospheric. Like someone genuinely talking about something and moving around because of this stream of information that is being talked about.
I would say it's a technical issue, but no, it's quite comfy and wholesome.
I like you think there would be no violent child clans of vicious gangers who are monsters in children form in Necromunda when the reality is they would be far *more* prevalent. Whatever pleasant thought that made you think that wasn't possible can be ejected now because people suck more than you think.
It's the society we live in, we get the benefits of those before us who did work in coal mines. 14 years old as far as 200 years ago was concerned was ready for war, 40k can be desperate at times far more than our world.
I think his argument was a gang of children wouldn't be able to hold their own against adults, but that's a bad argument, historically and even today child gangsters are a thing, either as a youth wing of an adult gang or a separate gang in service to an adult one.
Longform content? In this day and age? Don't mind if I do.
40k goonies in action
I enjoyed this vid, was fun learning about this since I legit never knew this existed, plus It was fun to know David Tennant and a Doctor who writer collabed for a 40k work
9-12 is pretty inline lol I was reading books about vampires having wars of genocide against each other and world war 1 alt fiction that had chimera abominations fighting mechs around these ages and i got those books from the school library (cirque du freak and the Leviathan trilogy for those wondering) both books had very graphic deaths like the main character gets his neck snapped in the first cirque book so they can fake his death to his family and he discusses the potential of the doctor doing an autopsy on his body 😅
You're cool broseph
Ton of work went into this, I appreciate you suffering through this so I don't have to lol.
I know WH40k is a very mature setting but books set in the universe where the setting is toned down don't seem to be so bad. Not every waking moment in WH40k is hell.
The hell moments are the most appealing thing of WH40K. If you don’t want that, go play Star Wars or marvel
@@jasoninthehood9726 Never said I didn't want that lol.
@@jasoninthehood9726 it is the focus, but not everything has to be war. There is always conflict.
@@jasoninthehood9726 That's a mighty fine gate you're keeping there bud! Do you have any hobbies or is that all you do in your free time?
@@beebeebees I don’t have to gatekeep when it comes to 40K. The high price point for everything already keeps most people out.
1. Love the longer format 🦾, cheers mate! 2. Thank you(!) for covering these. 3. Enjoy the choice of background music and sound edit, makes listening in headphones quite nice THANK YOU
Dude your timing is PERFECT, I was literally just looking at getting these for my daughter last night
You're cool!
Interesting video, I've been considering adding some of the Warhammer books to my "to-read" list since I've spent so long being a tourist with lore videos and whatnot. I'll probably go with Gotrek and Felix first, but might also add these.
Gotrek is a good place to start.
"And she's a Rogue Trader" I knew it.
You’re cool
I hope they bring something like this back as it is a really interesting lens for the lore to be displayed through
A long form video?? THANK YOU MR. BONES!!
You're so, so cool.
Coolest of the your cools.
Feed the cool algorithm, you cool!
You're cool
Had a curiosity about these so this vid was a nice crash look into the series. Been enjoying the videos greatly.
I can't believe you spent a full hour and a half on a video for the Warhammer kids books and that I also stayed through and watched the whole thing. I guess we're both cool.
I'm cool.
You're cool.
This was actually my first video on your channel, the algorithm recommended it and I was very curious about the subject matter since I remember when they were released and the backlash that popped up online. It's nice to get a summary that gave a fair run down!
I'm assuming that Skitarius is a play on the Latin word Scutarius. Scutarius comes from the word "scutum" which means shield, so a Scutarius is a "person who fights using a shield." "Scire" is Latin for "to know," so a "Scitarius" would be "person who fights using knowledge." I'm assuming they just changed the C to a K to be cool. But yeah, if it's based off of Latin, "Skitarii" would be changed to "Skitarius" to make it singular. Also, you wouldn't pronounce Skitarii "ski-tar-ee," you'd pronounce it "ski-tar-ee-eye."
Anyway, you're a dork! Which is why I'm subbed.
You’re cool for doing a review of this series. It was an interesting experiment to try and find a way to get kids into warhammer. It just feels unfocused and like they didn’t have faith in it as a project so it got cut short and abandoned.
So, I've been listening to this while farming relics on Warframe, and.... Gotta say, the Necron bit made me raise my eyes and turn to STARE at the screen about the Diadem. Like... That is some fucking Yuvan selection process with Kuva fuckery there in Plague of Nurglings. So Legitly speaking, you are pretty solid and cool in putting ya self through that rough chaos to read the books and learning the secret truths of how fucking DARK things can get.
Relic farming while listening to this also and had the same conclusion lmao its wild for a kids book
You’re cool!
Thanks for shedding some light on this because I didn’t know these existed.
Also this reminds me of that meme clip live from the black library used in their humanities best Allie video.
27:29 when in doubt, HEAVY FLAMER!
Speaking for all Salamanders players: Yes. Yes, indeed. 😌
If you don't pay ya taxes then you can get your trade warrant can get taken
I feel like people forget how dark 9-12 books cam get, look at percy jackson, the warriors series and bridge to teribetha
Hard agree, there is a surprising number of bodies in fiction. Some notes from the Redwall series, the one with the medieval woodland creatures:
-A comedic rat stabbed in the neck by a spear as their friend watches
-Multiple "creative" executions, such as being h**g in a river to keep swimming, or being forced to eat a whole bird, bones and all
-Multiple scenes where we watch a hero pass from their wounds, albeit stoicly.
-medieval warfare in general. The first book had the heroes flush out an enemy tunnel by dumping boiling water into it ( for any folks confused, the animated series changed it to Porridge )
That's a series that, by most accounts, is kid appropriate, but is full of some brutal violence. IDK if it's just the layer of fiction that protects kids, or just as an adult we can better see that each death is happening to another person, but Kids Fantasy has never been bloodless.
Never, similar just heard these were bad. Thank you for giving some clarity to this series. May take a look at these now.
Well this does interest me slightly because I don't think that I've ever heard anyone talk about this in any substantial way. It's kinda of wacky that all of that happened within the books and it's a bit darker than one would expect, If I ever do the time maybe I'll check them out. Anyway your cool, see ya next video.
Also this series having a cure to the bio transference is on its own a loose end but in the greater necron lore is tied up since they have had "cures" but never worked properly with either the body used being burned out shortly afterwards or just ultimately not working as intended
Know what's really funny about these books?
In secrets of the tau, they show that Kroot can live on Imperial words(which is true to canon, its just very rare), and they use this to push the narrative that the Imperium are the good guys and that immigration isn't always a good thing.
The last thing is right tho.
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You're cool and I had always wanted to know what the heck was actually up with these books. Thanks for doing the dive!
An hour and a half of pure unadulterated cringe? Not even we are that inhuman. And we bomb planets!
Jokes aside, love the longer form content. Makes for great study bgm
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I had no idea this series even existed. I’m admittedly not surprised that the books were at least okay. The Dragonback series by Timothy Zahn was a children’s book series with a similar concept, bouncing around from planet to planet and having mini-adventurers while trying to resolve an objective set up in the first book. There was definitely potential for this to work in WH40K.
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I skipped these for the secondhand opinions you gave. Thanks for doing this!
I refuse to acknowlege the existence of these books
I think something that helps the books be less dark for kids is that when the book sort of glosses over the grimdark stuff, us as adults know what is actually going on between the lines when kids might not notice it. Stills seems on the dark side but not much more than some other kids books like Goosebumps.
You're cool. The kids seem to have no more armor than any main character in a book who is a guardsman.
You're cool! I love the longer content, and this was great
who has hope that the main characters will meet a night lord or a emperor children?
That would so fucked up, I love it!
Imagine if they were brought into Comorragh.
Captured by the Night Lords in a children’s book would be so soooo fucking grimdark
Erabus would be a goofy villian for them to deal with, heck they could revive sindri and lord bale and go into the memes to water them down a bit- id love that.
You're cool man, thanks for giving this series a genuine shake
Soul transference is a theme in 40k, with an inquisitor looking for a way to transfer the Emperors soul to a new host.
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Listened to this while painted and loved it more than I thought I would!
you're cool. also thank you for covering these books, i read them when they were released and thought i was going insane with how much people shit-talking it. you make me feel validated, thank you.
You’re cool! That was a great breakdown, solid work!