Nick Cave: "You can't imagine Blixa as a normal person. You can't imagine him having parents" Me: Proceed to watch Blixa make pitchblack risotto in German morning tv...
Lol I laughed when he said that, cause I know what he means. Some people just seem like forces of nature or primordial archetypes just sprung up out of the fabric of reality one day. Human beings are fascinating that way.
I'm sure it was never a bromance. They were very close creatively, but nothing like with WE. WE's growing influence and the change in atmosphere and music imo. is the real reason he left.
@@stevenvanwambeke9119 - Pardon my ignorance but what is "WE"? (Usually I wouldn't ask, I would simply google it but as I'm sure you can imagine, it's tricky with that particular word)
@@pinkimietz3243 It's not a strange comment at all. Nick very obviously misses Blixa and is sad that they don't have the relationship they used to have anymore.
Blixa - put another dimension into the Bad Seeds. His stage presence alone was towering & imposing - much like Tracy Pew in the Birthday Party. He was an anchor of sorts & the band hinged off him to a certain degree. Miss him playing.
I'll respectfully disagree with that. The show I saw 3 weeks ago at the Sydney Opera House was mind blowingly great. Read 'Faith, Hope & Carnage' . Great book. Goes way deep on Blixa & Mick leaving & everything else.
What an amazing musical journey Nick has had. To have first encountered Roland S Howard then Blixa Bargeld and now Warren Ellis. So much talent that has woven the quilt that is the Bad Seeds!
Mick Harvey practically IS the equation (or was). A Harveyless Seeds, to my mind, shouldn't even be called The Bad Seeds... perhaps Nick should rename the band The Lesser Seeds?@@tonycapello
It must be really painful for a musician like Nick to have his bandmate leave the band without saying anything, considering that they understood each other very well for 19 years, Nick seeing him like a prodigy or like a creature out of this world and there wasn't even any tension between them during that time, just Blixa deciding to leave out of nothing. It shows the nature of Blixa, he is a man that understands when his time in a band is over, and just leaves, without making noise, being dramatic or fighting.
I think it was because Glory Hog Warren Ellis was starting to dominate as he has continued to do. So sad. Adore Blixa and the music produced by the the Bad Seeds when he was part of the band. Mick Harvey gone as well, now.
Blixa stated in an interview at one point that at the time he realised he couldn't be in two touring bands (The Bad Seeds and Einstürzende Neubauten) and remain married. He said that there was no "schism" within the band or his role in it. Just that he could no longer commit to both bands.
There's a Rolling Stones article with an excerpt from Faith, Hope and Carnage by Nick Cave that he stormed out of a recording session. "...he marched over to me and shouted, “Fuck the Muppets! You be a fucking Muppet!” Then he marched out of the studio, and I think that was the last time I ever saw him, as a member of the Bad Seeds."
@@punkdigerati Nick wanted them to play like the muppets. Blixa was insulted by it, but he'd had enough of Nick's sh*t for years leading up to that point..it was just the straw that broke the camel's back.
From her to eternity , walk and cry , walk and cry , room 29 , right on top of mine. Colombo walks in , blixa throws a bottle through the air into the crowd , bottle reverses direction in slow motion and blixa catches it in his teeth as it turns into a flower , the angel smiles and drinks his martini.
Saw the movie some weeks ago...Such a pity that these part was not in...When Cave is driving his car with Blixa next to him, he asked the german artist why he did left the band, and Blixa mentionned "the management" story. Plus the fact he wanted to save his marriage, being two busy playing in two bands...
I occasionally listen to nick cave's music but in 1000 years time it will be the nick cave and the bad seeds that will be remembered and now I suspect it was blixer whom was responsible for the incredible uncompromising sound of the 2 albums I love. From her to eternity and firstborn is dead. These are the perfect indelible bads seeds albums.
The last bit hurt my heart to hear. I know the split was painful. They are the most powerful musical collaborators since Lennon McCartney. I watched an interview of Blixa sometime back that he was describing how as time passes, the pain in life goes away…That he is no longer experiencing pain. It wasn’t necessarily in reference to the split, but it made me happy to know that at least he wasn’t hurting anymore from that difficult decision made so long ago. ❤
I always had the feeling that this was the truth, though not the whole truth. I think Blixa respectfully recognised Warren's fresh ambition with the Bad Seeds and stepped aside when the opportunity arised to do so gracefully. (Could be talking out of my arse like, but that's what I always felt)
You can notice differences in Warren’s position on stage in old clips compared to seeing him play live now - he was very much at the side front of the stage when I saw them a few years ago without Blixa.
Warren Ellis is brilliant, but I regret his Yoko-like influence on Nick. The “holy triumvirate” of the Bad Seeds will always be Cave, Harvey, and Bargeld.
I love the period with Blixa, but I respectfully disagree that they became boring after he left, nor do I think they changed all that drastically musically after he left... Their shift to far more mellow sounds wasn’t really until Skeleton Tree (imo), though arguably on Push The Sky Away this really began... Blixa had already been gone for a decade by then, and imo some of Nick’s best music has come out since then (and I’m including Grinderman in that). Also, I saw them okay live 2014 in Philly, and it was unbelievably visceral and exciting, I couldn’t believe Nick’s energy for someone in their late 50s (at that time). I’m jealous that you saw them on that 89 tour, though! I can only imagine how powerful that was. Anyway, maybe they’re in a mellow phase atm, and I can respect people being more bored with their last couple albums.. I’m not, but I respect and understand that, bc yes, they are far more mellow albums. I just don’t think it’s correct to say this is bc Blixa left, when you consider that they remained stylistically similar for another decade, post-Blixa exit. By this, I mean that TBS stayed relatively similar stylistically from like 96-2003, but then continued in this vein a while before they shifted to a more mellow sound. I just don’t think it’s completely attributable to his exit.
Is it me or he never talks about Mick Harvey? There are more than a video in which he talks about Blixa , how great he is and how much he is missed but I could never find one about Mick : (
I saw Nick's Toronto Q&A last fall and somebody asked about his relationship with Mick. He was honest about the acrimony involved in his split from the Bad Seeds, but he was also enormously respectful when talking about him. They still speak, for whatever that's worth.
Blixa left for the same reason Mick left, they had been completely marginalized by the Cave/Ellis 'partnership', it was pointless either of them being in the band after Boatman.
not at all. You said he wasn't involved with the writing and decided to do his own stuff because it was more satisfying. I said it was pointless him being in the band after Boatman because he wasn't involved creatively. That's the same thing.
Yeah that's true. The more soft and somber, emotionally driven "songwriter" trilogy (Boatman's Call, No More Shall We Part and Nocturama) put heavier and experimental songs in the background, and Blixa being from the German avant garde just wasn't fitting it with the more "adult" style of the band. Which is a shame, because I think he would have been fantastic in the frenetic stuff from Abattoir Blues or Lazarus. I don't think that was quite the case with Mick though, who is enormously versatile musically and has gone back to playing sideman in PJ Harvey's band now.
I find it rather silly about the motives why people move on. Clearly it is Mr Cave's vision that provides the focus, but after the initial dust settles, and both parties still regard each other with respect and as the interview suggests affection. At the end of the day mature adults always find ways to come to terms with change. I wish that could be said for hack journalists and some fans......
For what he says it seems they two were too similar and had the same type of character. In any case, it is a pity because that was my most favourite time of the band, to the point that I associate "Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds" mostly with those times. Nick Cave has always surrounded himself with fabulous musicians/artists.
Well, karma‘s a bitch, Nick - right? You kicked Rowland S. Howard out of The Birthday Party in the most horrible way (just watch the documentary by Heiner Mühlenbrock about it) after you sucked Rowland dry and you would have done the same to Blixa if Blixa wouldn’t be as smart as he is. Well done, Blixa. BTW: before Blixa wrote the ‚dear John‘ eMail, Warren was already waiting in the wings. Here’s the documentary: ua-cam.com/video/4Lc4bna6XKE/v-deo.html Blixa was already in the studio to work on THE BIRTHDAY PARTY album instead of Rowland and Rowland didn‘t even know about it.
@@alphooey I know him a little bit. Tried to like him because I used to like their music but he's a wanker. For me at least from my interactions with him
The Bad Seeds, in their greatest period, had a lot of space in the sound that they created. When Warren Ellis joined, all that space was filled up with unnecessary, and poor, violin playing. I can understand why Blixa left.
it was so so good, that Nick sacked this old lazy lad, it was overdue. Blixa didn't manage to play a single straight bar, and his singing was horrible. Nick gave him a chance in the beginning, because he helped him a little bit in Berlin and begged on the knees to get into a real band. Then he failed again and again, he just did't get his act together and didn't improve at all, even Sid Vicious had more talent as a musician, and continued his amateur project "Nebauten". Finially he even threatend to commit suicide, so Nick felt responsible and had too much pity to throw him out of the band for a long time.
@@munyansebastien7127 A "terrible guitarist" that was somehow able to do "what no other guitar player can do", over many years and on some amazing albums. Trev reminds me of the Oscar Wilde quote, a person who knows the price of everything but the value of nothing.
I would call him neither a great guitarist or a terrible guitarist. The guitar was simply a tool he used in the same way a painter uses paint. Whether the tool is used in a 'traditional' way is completely irrelevant.
I like how he's discussing Blixa like he's a mythical creature.
A cyclops apparently
For all I know Blixa IS a mythical creature
He's just a person. silly comment.
@@tonycapello yeah but mythical creatures are real. Stupid comment.
Nick has also described Blixa as “immutable and godlike, his tower of strength”.
Nick Cave: "You can't imagine Blixa as a normal person. You can't imagine him having parents"
Me: Proceed to watch Blixa make pitchblack risotto in German morning tv...
Hahahahaha 👍
Alfredissimo, one hell of a Show..
😂😂😂😂😂😂 True!!!
ahah yes, that's great :D
Lol I laughed when he said that, cause I know what he means. Some people just seem like forces of nature or primordial archetypes just sprung up out of the fabric of reality one day. Human beings are fascinating that way.
I wish somebody loved me as much as Nick loves Blixa
One of my daughters named her cat after Blixa. She was a delightful cat.
I want to get a lionhead rabbit and name it Blixa.
I am convinced that Blixa Bargeld is God's way of trolling Nick Cave when he says to himself "nobody could have a bigger ego than me."
did he said that actually?
the ultimate friendship and bromance of two amazing musicians
I'm sure it was never a bromance. They were very close creatively, but nothing like with WE. WE's growing influence and the change in atmosphere and music imo. is the real reason he left.
@@stevenvanwambeke9119 - Pardon my ignorance but what is "WE"?
(Usually I wouldn't ask, I would simply google it but as I'm sure you can imagine, it's tricky with that particular word)
Warren Ellis
@@stevenvanwambeke9119 I heard they were boyfriends too
@@lucylovicthat's so cute omg
Nick is amangzily gracious about a topic that is obviously painful for him. Of course Blixa absolutely deserves it. I miss Blixa
He's alive and well. What a strange comment to make.
@@pinkimietz3243 It's not a strange comment at all. Nick very obviously misses Blixa and is sad that they don't have the relationship they used to have anymore.
Broken up with by email by Blixa Bargeld-
Life Goals
That period was peak Badseeds. The music they were making at that time was just incredible.
true
100%
Blixa - put another dimension into the Bad Seeds. His stage presence alone was towering & imposing - much like Tracy Pew in the Birthday Party. He was an anchor of sorts & the band hinged off him to a certain degree. Miss him playing.
Not the same without Mick and Blixa. Hes washed up now
I'll respectfully disagree with that. The show I saw 3 weeks ago at the Sydney Opera House was mind blowingly great. Read 'Faith, Hope & Carnage' . Great book. Goes way deep on Blixa & Mick leaving & everything else.
What an amazing musical journey Nick has had. To have first encountered Roland S Howard then Blixa Bargeld and now Warren Ellis. So much talent that has woven the quilt that is the Bad Seeds!
Um, hello? Mick Harvey? The Blixa-Nick-Mick combo was the best Seeds.
Bogus comment because you neglected Mick Harvey one of the most important parts of the equation
I saw Mick with Pj Harvey a few years ago.
Mick Harvey practically IS the equation (or was). A Harveyless Seeds, to my mind, shouldn't even be called The Bad Seeds... perhaps Nick should rename the band The Lesser Seeds?@@tonycapello
It must be really painful for a musician like Nick to have his bandmate leave the band without saying anything, considering that they understood each other very well for 19 years, Nick seeing him like a prodigy or like a creature out of this world and there wasn't even any tension between them during that time, just Blixa deciding to leave out of nothing. It shows the nature of Blixa, he is a man that understands when his time in a band is over, and just leaves, without making noise, being dramatic or fighting.
I think it was because Glory Hog Warren Ellis was starting to dominate as he has continued to do. So sad. Adore Blixa and the music produced by the the Bad Seeds when he was part of the band. Mick Harvey gone as well, now.
@@EP-yd7vz sad indeed
Blixa stated in an interview at one point that at the time he realised he couldn't be in two touring bands (The Bad Seeds and Einstürzende Neubauten) and remain married. He said that there was no "schism" within the band or his role in it. Just that he could no longer commit to both bands.
There's a Rolling Stones article with an excerpt from Faith, Hope and Carnage by Nick Cave that he stormed out of a recording session. "...he marched over to me and shouted, “Fuck the Muppets! You be a fucking Muppet!” Then he marched out of the studio, and I think that was the last time I ever saw him, as a member of the Bad Seeds."
@@punkdigerati Nick wanted them to play like the muppets. Blixa was insulted by it, but he'd had enough of Nick's sh*t for years leading up to that point..it was just the straw that broke the camel's back.
Blixa played the guitar like... no-one... there goes a compliment :)
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the best music ever made, by these 2 geniuses. :(
Neubauten music 200x better
From her to eternity , walk and cry , walk and cry , room 29 , right on top of mine. Colombo walks in , blixa throws a bottle through the air into the crowd , bottle reverses direction in slow motion and blixa catches it in his teeth as it turns into a flower , the angel smiles and drinks his martini.
Saw the movie some weeks ago...Such a pity that these part was not in...When Cave is driving his car with Blixa next to him, he asked the german artist why he did left the band, and Blixa mentionned "the management" story. Plus the fact he wanted to save his marriage, being two busy playing in two bands...
I love Blixa's german accent when he speaks english... 😆
Adorabile anche quando parla in italiano! Ha pure cantato in italiano in alcune collaborazioni con Teho Teardo, musicista italiano
I occasionally listen to nick cave's music but in 1000 years time it will be the nick cave and the bad seeds that will be remembered and now I suspect it was blixer whom was responsible for the incredible uncompromising sound of the 2 albums I love. From her to eternity and firstborn is dead. These are the perfect indelible bads seeds albums.
What he gave to the Bad Seeds was keenly obvious to me upon hearing them live without him.
last 5 albums is a pure crap
I think a lot of fans miss Mick and Blixa. It would've been nice or still it would be nice if they could do a farewell tour...
you can't even imagine he had parents
Nicky and Blixa sittin’ in a tree… k i s s i n g 😎
I miss Blixa too. It's not quite the same
this sort of makes me want to cry
The last bit hurt my heart to hear. I know the split was painful. They are the most powerful musical collaborators since Lennon McCartney. I watched an interview of Blixa sometime back that he was describing how as time passes, the pain in life goes away…That he is no longer experiencing pain. It wasn’t necessarily in reference to the split, but it made me happy to know that at least he wasn’t hurting anymore from that difficult decision made so long ago. ❤
Blixa doesn't need to bring his guitar
"One eyed creature" I like that description if you want his perspective he'll give it to you.
Nixa
I miss Nixa!
Best bromance EVER.
I always had the feeling that this was the truth, though not the whole truth. I think Blixa respectfully recognised Warren's fresh ambition with the Bad Seeds and stepped aside when the opportunity arised to do so gracefully. (Could be talking out of my arse like, but that's what I always felt)
I think that’s essentially what Nick was saying here, just not that Warren was becoming that new collaborative force. It’s sort of implicit, though.
If u could talk out of ur arse..I'd pay to see it
You can notice differences in Warren’s position on stage in old clips compared to seeing him play live now - he was very much at the side front of the stage when I saw them a few years ago without Blixa.
Warren Ellis is brilliant, but I regret his Yoko-like influence on Nick. The “holy triumvirate” of the Bad Seeds will always be Cave, Harvey, and Bargeld.
100%
Absolutely!
The bad seeds become less when he left.
True
''THAT THING'' LOL I fuckin died when he said that
Yeh old man
This is an extra scene on the DVD.
Miss blixa so sad.
blixa totally MADE the bad seeds ... they became so boring when he left - BEST concert i ever saw - mercy seat tour in 89
I love the period with Blixa, but I respectfully disagree that they became boring after he left, nor do I think they changed all that drastically musically after he left... Their shift to far more mellow sounds wasn’t really until Skeleton Tree (imo), though arguably on Push The Sky Away this really began... Blixa had already been gone for a decade by then, and imo some of Nick’s best music has come out since then (and I’m including Grinderman in that).
Also, I saw them okay live 2014 in Philly, and it was unbelievably visceral and exciting, I couldn’t believe Nick’s energy for someone in their late 50s (at that time). I’m jealous that you saw them on that 89 tour, though! I can only imagine how powerful that was.
Anyway, maybe they’re in a mellow phase atm, and I can respect people being more bored with their last couple albums.. I’m not, but I respect and understand that, bc yes, they are far more mellow albums. I just don’t think it’s correct to say this is bc Blixa left, when you consider that they remained stylistically similar for another decade, post-Blixa exit. By this, I mean that TBS stayed relatively similar stylistically from like 96-2003, but then continued in this vein a while before they shifted to a more mellow sound. I just don’t think it’s completely attributable to his exit.
Blixa and Mick
Love that guy🖤
What, was this left out of the movie? Why was this left out of the movie? This is fascinating.
What movie?
Tha Dood 20,000 Days On Earth. Film about Nick Cave
Euchrid Eucrow it's in the movie
gary alford no it’s not
@Vass. Koun Wasn't in the theatrical release.
Is it me or he never talks about Mick Harvey? There are more than a video in which he talks about Blixa , how great he is and how much he is missed but I could never find one about Mick : (
KingInk and PJ and Howland
I saw Nick's Toronto Q&A last fall and somebody asked about his relationship with Mick. He was honest about the acrimony involved in his split from the Bad Seeds, but he was also enormously respectful when talking about him. They still speak, for whatever that's worth.
best video ever
I like to think we will see Blixa back with the Bad Seeds one day
I hope not. They are terrible now. And I really used to love them.
I don’t anticipate that ever happening.
weird they included the dialogue in the car with blixa but not this. WTF!?
0:28 ZIE GUITAR IZ NOT IN MY HEADPHONES!!!
Nick is Obi Wan Kenobi wrapped up in a cool Panther
Blixa left for the same reason Mick left, they had been completely marginalized by the Cave/Ellis 'partnership', it was pointless either of them being in the band after Boatman.
yeah that's right... Cave/Ellis changed the hole thing...
you have proved my point completely
not at all. You said he wasn't involved with the writing and decided to do his own stuff because it was more satisfying. I said it was pointless him being in the band after Boatman because he wasn't involved creatively. That's the same thing.
Yeah that's true. The more soft and somber, emotionally driven "songwriter" trilogy (Boatman's Call, No More Shall We Part and Nocturama) put heavier and experimental songs in the background, and Blixa being from the German avant garde just wasn't fitting it with the more "adult" style of the band. Which is a shame, because I think he would have been fantastic in the frenetic stuff from Abattoir Blues or Lazarus. I don't think that was quite the case with Mick though, who is enormously versatile musically and has gone back to playing sideman in PJ Harvey's band now.
I find it rather silly about the motives why people move on. Clearly it is Mr Cave's vision that provides the focus, but after the initial dust settles, and both parties still regard each other with respect and as the interview suggests affection.
At the end of the day mature adults always find ways to come to terms with change. I wish that could be said for hack journalists and some fans......
Like to see the whole interview
Not an interview. A film by Cave, 20,000 Days On Earth.
Cool that he cops to it. Blix knew it was time...he was wht made the bad seeds interesting.
This is the way. I have spoken. -sounds like Blixa-
Both of those sentences were key phrases in the Mandalorian....
The importance of importance.
Wow, I really love both Nick and Blixa, but he's actually describing Zlatan. Except for the guitar.
Is it from 20.000 days on Earth movie, cause I don't remember that scene
didn't make it to the final cut
BLIXA CAME OUT OF THE DEVILS ASS
For what he says it seems they two were too similar and had the same type of character. In any case, it is a pity because that was my most favourite time of the band, to the point that I associate "Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds" mostly with those times. Nick Cave has always surrounded himself with fabulous musicians/artists.
I completely lost interest in the Bad Seeds when Blixa and Mick left. The songs seem so much more blah these days.
They are awful now. Bland af
Blixa Is Vanity
Well, karma‘s a bitch, Nick - right? You kicked Rowland S. Howard out of The Birthday Party in the most horrible way (just watch the documentary by Heiner Mühlenbrock about it) after you sucked Rowland dry and you would have done the same to Blixa if Blixa wouldn’t be as smart as he is. Well done, Blixa. BTW: before Blixa wrote the ‚dear John‘ eMail, Warren was already waiting in the wings.
Here’s the documentary:
ua-cam.com/video/4Lc4bna6XKE/v-deo.html
Blixa was already in the studio to work on THE BIRTHDAY PARTY album instead of Rowland and Rowland didn‘t even know about it.
Currently reading Mark Mordue’s “Boy on Fire”. Nick comes across as a bigger knob than I thought he was.
@@alphooey I know him a little bit. Tried to like him because I used to like their music but he's a wanker. For me at least from my interactions with him
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could have just asked him why. lol
Blixa - yes - Ellis? .... no .....
placket envy
What movie is this from?
I think it's from '20.000 Days On Earth'
20,000 Days on Heart, but this short part has not been included in the final cut. Anyway it’s an amazing one
The Bad Seeds, in their greatest period, had a lot of space in the sound that they created.
When Warren Ellis joined, all that space was filled up with unnecessary, and poor, violin playing.
I can understand why Blixa left.
it was so so good, that Nick sacked this old lazy lad, it was overdue. Blixa didn't manage to play a single straight bar, and his singing was horrible. Nick gave him a chance in the beginning, because he helped him a little bit in Berlin and begged on the knees to get into a real band. Then he failed again and again, he just did't get his act together and didn't improve at all, even Sid Vicious had more talent as a musician, and continued his amateur project "Nebauten". Finially he even threatend to commit suicide, so Nick felt responsible and had too much pity to throw him out of the band for a long time.
Who's the weirdo interviewer
dude. who is this guy? Who is the guy he's talking about? Why is this keep showing up in my recommended videos?
I believe UA-cam gave you the wrong directions. But you landed in Nick Cave land, and it is anything but the wrong place to be :D
Nick kind of tells the same stories over and over again
Don't we all though?
Well, what else should he say if he gets asked the same questions over and over again?
Blixa was many things - a "great guitarist" is absolutely not one of those things. In fact, I'd go so far as to say he was a terrible guitarist.
That's what made him good!
@@munyansebastien7127 A "terrible guitarist" that was somehow able to do "what no other guitar player can do", over many years and on some amazing albums. Trev reminds me of the Oscar Wilde quote, a person who knows the price of everything but the value of nothing.
And we should accept your opinion over that of only Nick Fucking Cave? Somehow, I think not.
I would call him neither a great guitarist or a terrible guitarist. The guitar was simply a tool he used in the same way a painter uses paint. Whether the tool is used in a 'traditional' way is completely irrelevant.
He does terrible things, but he does it in the perfect moment. Thatz ze secret of Blixa Gitarring. Timing.
moonski 🌚
I am an exomoonextremophile and I Love Nick Cave for all of the right reasons. Blixa and Nick the duet of all time. thank you LORD
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