Having had an H2 fuel cell vehicle (it was my wife who wanted it against my advice), the infrastructure hasn't had any improvements, over the range from 2017 to 2024. I just passed the single fueling station in Torrance and there was a big line of Mirais waiting for the nozzle to thaw so they could have their turn. Right now, half the H2 stations are down and/or have no fuel across Southern California. With a degree in Fluid, Thermal and Aerospace Sciences Engineering, I can guarantee: All the best H2 fuel cell technology results in: very expensive fuel, a poor reliability and a sparse delivery system, lackadaisical vehicle power, greenhouse gas leaking, a cramped vehicle interior, lots of CO2 production, the danger of blowing up your garage due to the inevitable fuel leaks and little Hindenburgs all over the road. At 10,000 PSI, a leak that catches fire is a stronger blowtorch than anything you’ve ever seen. It will cut through a Cybertruck’s stainless steel. An H2 bus in Bakersfield already blew up damaging the fueling station so much, they just shut the whole H2 bus experiment down. This year, a natural gas semi near the harbor burned then blew up injuring 9 firemen. An H2 semi explosion would be even more powerful. BMW must have some scheme going to get something out of Toyota. They can’t actually be planning on producing and selling these vehicles. Once BMW gets what it wants, the project will quietly die.
I'm always impressed by how well done your videos are and the natural flow they have. Clearly well thought out and researched. Great on-screen chemistry. Congrats!!
BMW is committing corporate suicide times 2. Never partner with Toyota and never try to build a Hydrogen car. Hydrogen is a very, very tiny molecule. So tiny it can fit in the spaces between metal atoms in an alloy, eventually leaking out and in the process destroying the structural properties of the alloy. Every aspect of making Hydrogen, storing it , transporting it and using it is a minefield of technology hurdles that no sane engineer would try to tackle if other options are available. I worked in the petroleum industry in the 70's where we used H2 to alter petroleum molecules to make them more useful. I have seen first hand the problems H2 causes and we still hear about it with H2-fueled rockets.
I have a 2022 Model Y long range and I use it for my medical courier business. I have subscribed to full self-driving and utilize it quite a bit. I like it! It works well, but one annoying factor. There is a switch that can be turned on to “minimize lane changes during this drive.” The problem is that the switch defaults to the off position and must be turned back on several times during my day. This requires me to go to settings/autopilot and turn the switch on. If the car shuts off and locks when I get out to deliver and then get in and then go to my next delivery if I use self-driving again most times the switch that turns on minimal lane changes for this drive in the autopilot settings defaults to off. This means that I get back on the road and turn on full self-driving and the car immediately tries to change lanes to get into a lane that may be moving better with the flow of traffic. But it may not be a lane change that I desired so I have to continually go back into settings and turn the switch on to minimize lane changes once again.
Think Hindenburg when you think of hydrogen. Also I don't think the physics works when you consider all the energy you have to put into making the hydrogen and then putting it into your car and then converting it into battery energy to run an electric motor when you can just use electricity to run an electric motor. Hydrogen is also the smallest element and its corrosive so those tanks won't last very long as well as the storage tanks and all the connectors from the tank to the hose that you hook to your car.
H2 has to be stored in a Dewar flask or tank because it can't be compressed into a liquid, it *has* to stay cold to remain liquid or it just expands until the pressure is insane, so it must be slowly vented as it warms up. Being the smallest atom, it leaks through everything and there's 0 infrastructure for it. If you're handy and the breaker box is close, you could have an EV plug in your driveway for tens of dollars 😂 H2 makes no sense at all!
The amount of energy and resources required to produce fuel for vehicles, be it gas, diesel, or batteries is substantial. There's a strong probability that hydrogen production for transportation will be expensive as well. Hydrogen powered vehicles have been around for many years and the only documented complaints I have seen have been on availability of fuel, no tank issues.
Before my electric car, I had a NGV (Natural Gas Vehicle) In CA one could get the car pool privileges and I had to work more than 1 hr away so NVG was the choice. The problem with these cars and a H2 car is that the tank takes a lot of space and its under very high pressure. I believe a H2 pressure take is over 4,000 psi. It’s difficult to compress H2, so the range will be limited.
"Hydrogen is a distraction; our focus should be on expanding EV charging networks. Not only is producing hydrogen expensive and energy-intensive, but charging at home is also incredibly convenient and efficient."
America should follow France's example in requiring all large parking lots to install solar panels. Makes sense to have EVs charge underneath. America should also follow Australia's example in terms of residential solar + batteries.
One simple feature I wish they would add is customizable equalizer presets for the stereo. Preferably with additional presets for each driver. Wife likes to listen to music while I mostly listen to podcasts. I hate having to lower the bass settings each time I get in the car.
Some years ago we had a wireless charger for our 2013 Chevy Volt. It was called Plugless. Worked pretty well for a couple of years. It died as did the company.
Hope we see Smart summon in Australia soon. Right now there is no difference between FSD and the included Autopilot with the only thing you get is that it doesn't disengage autopilot on lane changes. Excited for whats coming
I live in Canada and I simply can't see FSD working like it needs to 100% of the time in all the bad weather we get up here... It complains in a light drizzle... I think we will need radar and lidar to help the cars see in bad weather! Works great in perfect conditions though! Not flawless though... It still doesn't deal with construction well and there are a few fringe situations that it doesn't deal well with. There's this one street in my city that has a blind corner leading to a single lane bridge and it just flew around that corner and I had to take over. That situation needs to be handled like a stop yeild slowing down through the corner to see if another car is coming head on! Also on the highway there was construction and they had pylons just on our side pushing cars to the outside of the lane where we have to drive over the outer white line... The car instead of coming over did an emergency breaking on a 100 series highway instead of just slowing and moving over. The car does not like driving over lines! Also on that same highway there are a few merge lanes that are short and the car merging looks like it's going to drive right into the side of you right before turning at the last minute and despite the fact that the merging car had isn't own lane my car did an emergency break for no reason... Very dangerous... If a car had been behind me they would have hit me for sure! Its getting better but there are still far too many WTF moments with FSD.
Another niche situation i observed twice is it doesnt account for other drivers doing illegal or impropre things. For example twice when i was driving on the highway trucks had been gradually entering my lane. Instead of leaning the car to the left to avoid à potential collision it stays centréd in the lane and forced me to take over as there would have been à collision for sure
@theodorehaskins3756 12.5.2 is my current but I think it was 12.5.1.3 at the time of my above stories. I'll test it again to see if it passes that blind corner test though.
I would try tesla network for my personal model 3. I' m concerned about insurance and charging of the car remotely, plus damage to the car inside and out.
Thoughts on my personal car being used as a robotaxi. My car has a steering wheel and brake pedals. What would stop a taxi passenger from deciding to drive it himself? What if the car has an accident or gets a traffic ticket while acting as a taxi? Who pays, my insurance or Tesla? I am not excited about a drunk passenger puking in my car while using it as a taxi, or damaging the car. I could see passengers knife the seats or vandalize the car if their is no other human in the car.
I would point out that a human driver faces the same problems as a robodriver without ultrasonics or radar since humans also cannot detect outside the visible spectrum. So how do humans drive in poor lighting conditions? You drive more slowly to give yourself enough time to react when you can see at short range. You use visual cues like guardrails, sign posts, and tire ruts when the road markings are covered in snow. You use the lighting from other cars’ headlights and their movements to tell that there’s a curve ahead in the darkness. I’m no expert, but I think Tesla is trying to mimic the human driver’s behavior as best they can.
They could make it more efficient if they made a microwave/heater element Pizza oven, preheating the pizza with microwave then having the electric oven portion for the crispy finish. This would allow for thick crust pizza and use way less electricity than a full heater element pizza oven done on a a conveyer system. The thick crust pizza would go into a commercial browning microwave oven for 2 minutes, then the door opened and the pizza put onto a 1 to 1.5minute radiant oven conveyor to finish the pizza to perfection. The energy use would go way down, giving the CyberTruck more range to go back to recharging.
Hands free frunk open: Seems like a hidden button in the air intake area (Model S/X) you could have an aftermarket button. Not handsfree I know, but better than nothing.
I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone test out the summon in a parking garage, that's the one area I don't know if it could really handle given the different signs and paths to go up and down in the structure
Hi Kim and PJ. ASS is coming with 12.5.3. I have 12.5.2, the right hardware, and no ASS. Well, you know what I mean -- I have plenty of ass, just not Actually Smart Summon.
I think you are wrong about "Unpark, Park and Reverse in FSD". While these features will make Smart Summon better and will enable implementation of Banish, that is not what this is about. Right now, you have to exit FSD to park. "Park in FSD" will find a parking space and park there when you reach your destination, no disengagement. Tesla likes to reverse into parking spaces, but can't do it on FSD, "U,P & R" will allow to reverse into a space while on FSD. It will also allow the car to drive forward into angled spaces and then reverse itself out (Unpark). "Unpark", naturally, means you get into your car, set your destination and engage FSD, FSD can then back out of a parking space, if necessary, and get onto your nav route. "Reverse in FSD" means that it can back out of a tight alley or dead end situation if it decider it can't proceed with forward motion. Improvements to Smart Summon and implementation of Banish will happen, but "U, P &R in FSD" is a new skill set for FSD.
As an engineer with 40 years experience, I feel a hydrogen car is crazy. There’s no infrastructure and cost to produce hydrogen is too expensive. Hydrogen leaks so you cannot contain it. You won’t see it shipped like gas, but rather produced where needed making it very expensive.
I never could figure out..and don't now, understand how FSD or its relations can possibly work without sonics or radar. Consider a condition where it is pitch dark or fog obscured. The cameras are in the visible spectrum so they won't be able to see many obstructions. You have no lateral lighting so this needs to be explained to me. Wireless charging is a must. It was the hardest thing to do to convince apple to go with wireless. But the advantages are obvious. When it's raining/snowing you don't need to get out of your car. There is a safety element here too since I have recharged in some p r e t t y shady neighborhoods where they're just waiting for you. As far as having one in your garage, it's no different than having your car in your garage charging. The pad is NOT on unless the car is parked over it and has a valid handshake. Repeated studies regarding radiation is non sequitur. Your phone puts out much more radiation at giga high frequencies than a 400 hz charging pad. They should have incorporated this years ago. It eliminates the wear and tear on the connector both for the adapter AND for the car itself. Any losses are thus mitigated. As for BMW, they are so mired in the past that there is little hope. Electricity is easy to transport and I can't imagine hydrogen pipelines running all over the country.
I plan to use my MY’s robotaxi features. I can’t wait. My expectation is that my MY would be able to navigate herself out of the backyard driveway out into the narrow gate so she has to be able to fold her side view mirrors on her own and she will fit right through; be able to take me to work, come back home to park in the backyard driveway, pick me up when I summon and drive back home and properly park in the backyard driveway.
No worries, my friend! It will be able to do all of that and more! Tesla got this! The competition will be nowhere to be found! It’s gonna be game over for some of these legacy, auto manufacturers, as they simply won’t be able to compete! Cheers 🥂
@@theodorehaskins3756 You must be very naiv to believe that... Dont you think there is a reason there is no longer any real FSD you can buy? They changed it to "Supervised" ! The current used hardware on sold cars isn't capable to turn your car into a driverless Robo Taxi!
Don't you think there is a reason you can no longer buy real FSD? They changed it into "Supervised" only! The current hardware isn't capable of turning your Model 3,Y or X into a Robo Taxi via simple OTA as Musk promised 2019 at the "Autonomy Day" event!
Well the hydrogen thing could really only work if they can find a way to make hyrdogen directly from water that is stored in a tank. And converted quick enough and cheaply enough to be on demand. I doubt that they have figured this out. At least not yet.
I wouldn't recommend hydrogen for such a small platform such as a passenger car. I'd probably try magnetics or plasma first. The storage of hydrogen can't really be miniaturized in an efficient way. So the weight and size of it won't really be worth it. At least not in such a small scale. Bigger trucks maybe, but it still wouldn't be my first choice in another type of energy source.
A lot of these concerns for robotaxi are no different than regular taxis or Uber... Passengers have just as much ability to puke or knife the seats or even hijack the driving as they would in normal rideshares. I assume the Tesla would be monitoring somehow, hopefully with interior cameras but even if not, the perpetrator runs the same risk of getting caught which I think would be enough to keep most people in check. If you'd be ok working for Uber (which isn't everyone and that's fine), it should be the same feeling letting your Tesla be a robotaxi.
Isn’t the advantage that AI has vs Human drive is the ability to plug in more data sources or inputs? I get wanting to do camera only but why not have sonar and radar or lidar as data inputs to cover all scenarios more effectively? FSD is amazing, but just used it at tonight and it hard braked when an incoming car with his lights came. They were in their lane but had there been other data sources to validate the camera inputs that may have not happened.
I thought about doing the Taxi thing but decided not but still thought about sending the car back home for the wife to use the car and summon it when I am ready to come home but not very confident yet.
I just bought a brand new (6 weeks old) Model X and I love it, I have FSD, but for some reason I don't have summon or smart summon. I have the newer camera's, but I'm not sure why I don't have Summon? It must have something to do with HW3 or HW4?? Why would Tesla sell me a new X with hardware that doesn't support the summon feature? Hopefully it comes to me soon??
Vision monitoring doesn’t work well. It’s still constantly has me grab the wheel. But I’m willing to bet only newer models with FSD will be able to robo taxi
So I bought a brand new model Y performance with FSD eight weeks ago and I still have not received my first update. The car is running on software that came out in April. This is very frustrating and I’m wondering if anybody knows when I should be seeing all those great updates.
Regarding BMW doing hydrogen, I wonder if they are thinking it's hard to compete with Chinese EVs even if there are tariffs on them. I wouldn't mind getting a hydrogen car, as we still don't know what the environmental impacts of EVs will be. We had a BMW i3 that had its battery replaced, our Tesla is newer so we don't have to worry about it, but am curious what it will look like in another 4 or 5 years. The long term worries me from perspective of battery replacements.
I have a question about FSD. I bought my 2018 Model 3 LR RWD in June 2018. In April 2019, I bought EAP and FSD for $5000 total during that "firesale" Tesla had. At the time, I remember Tesla stating that my car would get all necessary hardware and software upgrades (at no extra cost) that were necessary for FSD. In 2020, I got the HW3 retrofit. Am I all good to take advantage of the new summon as well as being able to use FSD with sunglasses? Or will I need HW4? Or has Tesla changed the definition of FSD and applied it retroactively to my purchase of FSD back in 2019 so that I no longer get all necessary hardware and software upgrades included at no extra cost? I have heard that I do not get the updated AMD Ryzen chip becuase it is only for the UI interface. Thanks in advance for your time.
Hi da had hydrogen cars already but they only had 2 stations to fill up. Somewhere in like Irvine/ O.C and I forgot where th next one was. But they still have them because they still have some hydrogen cars around. They only sold those cars in a few dealerships (2) because they only had a few hydrogen stations.
Hydrogen only makes sense for a closed system where the vehicles go daily on a local run. It might make sense for postal service home delivery runs. It makes no sense at all for anything that goes long distance. Any hydrogen that would be supplied to a fill-up station would have to be trucked there. Pipelines just for hydrogen is out of the question. On the other hand, electricity is virtually everywhere and can be made on the spot with solar panels and storage batteries.
Turn your car into robotaxi is not a good idea. I know because I do ride share and people trash your car while you’re there. Imagine what they’ll do when you’re not there!
Having multiple children doesn't multiply the cost, things like hand me downs and the older child helping with chores come into play, so 2 children doesn't cost double or 3 children cost triple, there are some efficiencies.
Let's go to first principles. 1. A vehicle without driver controls (e.g. wheel & pedals) is NOT a "car". It's the passenger carrying component of a new class of public transportation. A "car" is all about driving ... hands on the wheel ... eyes on the road ... carving the corners. 2. A robo-taxi/cyber-cab/whatever is fundamentally a "taxi" ... with all the same shortcomings and use cases of that transportation medium. They will be used by the same customers and in the same use cases now served by taxi/Uber/Lyft, etc. They may replace the taxi/Uber/Lyft/etc. DRIVER ... BUT Robo-taxis will not replace the private, personal, vehicle. They will serve existing "taxi" markets like, e.g., dense uban core transportation. In my own case, the only circumstance where I would use a taxi or equivalent is travel to and from the airport to catch a commercial flight. Then at the destination, I would rent a car rather than use a cab. Ironically, if level 5 autonomy is ever actually achieved, that would eliminate that last use case as I would drive my car to the airport and send it home to its garage via FSD to await my summons on my return. 3. If the fundamental purpose of FSD is to make cars that are safer than the average human (as opposed to just enabling robo-taxis) then the only ethical course of action is to make it standard equipment, included in the base price, in every vehicle Tesla sells. 4. The argument that FSD adds value because you can have it running robo-taxi missions while you're not using it is patently absurd. It ignores opportunity cost. My personal vehicle would not be available for my use when out on robo-taxi runs. My car has more value parked in my garage ready for my use whenever I choose to do so that it ever could as a robo-taxi. 5. The idea that I would place my personal vehicle into a robo-taxi fleet to be used and abused by the general public is delusional. If I ever had an urge to enter the robo-taxi business i would buy one or more used examples to dedicate to that role.
The problem is in hydrogen, where is the regenerative energy coming from for diving with hydrogen??? You need four tines more electricity for the same driving distance. If it's folly produced hydrogen, it's useless... Better burn the oil ;-)
I bought my Tesla MYLR in the beginning of 2021 with the intention that by 2025 or 2026 the latest I would be able to make money with my car. So far, the timeline is looking to be true and even at the earlier end of my guess. If Tesla removes the ability for that to happen they might find themselves in a class action lawsuit because of customers such as myself
Very simply Tesla will assign a supervisor for each car. He/she will take control in case autopilot fails, accidents, emergencies, etc....by doing then autopilot becomes a piece of cake even in case of bugs...then 3-4 years ago maybe it will be unsupervised. They will at first do 1/1 supervising then 1/2, 1/4 , etc. until they can really remove the supervisors
Hydrogen' there must be a distribution agreement between BMW and the UAE. The main difference between battery and hydrogen is that with batteries you have control to make your own fuel (solar energy) while with hydrogen you will always rely on UAE who will raise the prices at will 😂
With BMW, if your a true green supporter I'd guess you would be for green hydrogen which is pretty expensive to produce right now from renewable electric sources, but way less earth carbon heavy than producing batteries by mining, lithium, combat, and the heavy metals that take TONS of dirt extraction and destruction to produce. Hydrogen if blue from gas or green from renewables seems much more earth friendly and of course much faster to refill. Safety is key though yes. Current battery EVs are far from green, take years to break even - have you kept all your Teslas for say 6+ years?
Now, Kim... What do your lil ones say 'bout you 'gettin' some @$$!?' 🤣 I'm all for makin' the dough. However, I'm 100% against 'losing' the wheel and pedals as well as not having a 'driver' behind the wheel whether FSD is being used or not. You be lookin' AWES💣ME sportin' that black leather jacket!
Waymo can't drive on highways. Waymo can't drive in St. Louis, New York, Chicago or any of thousands of other cities and is years away from being able to do highways or roads that haven't been HD mapped. Tesla FSD already takes me everyplace I need to go, with the primary effort on my part being parking on lots with angled spaces. It even handles unmapped roads on a farm I visit to get back onto mapped roads. Can Waymo?
@@genelane2243 Then why present it in a closed off area and not the open road? I guarantee you that if you have a Model 3 or Y a simple OTA as promised by Musk on "Autonomy Day" 2019 will not turn your car into a Robo Taxi! He fooled the naive people and i already knew back then it's not possible with the current hardware! You don't believe me? Check on their website! You no longer can buy real FSD, just Supervised! So what happend to you sitting in the bar and summoning your car from home to pick you up or driving your children to school fully autonomous without you needing to be in the driver's seat!? What hapoend to the crazy dreams many had turning their Teslas into money making Taxis? Not going to happen! All you get is a very,very good assistant system you allways will be responsible for! No car company would ever be that crazy to take over full responsibility for the driving of their customers cars!
Regarding hydrogen cars being "flammable." The main difference between flammable and inflammable is that flammable objects can be set on fire, while inflammable objects can burst into flames without needing to be ignited.
Toyota are sadly still blindsided by Hydrogen,in the UK we currently have 15 Hydrogen stations which pretty much tells you all you need to know,Thanks Guys 👍
I thought like you until I actually used it. Know I can’t imagine not having it. It blows me away by how good it is. Def not perfect but it’s obvious Tesla will solve autonomy after using it for some time.
Why is Robotaxi being shown on a closed course when it should be demonstrated in the real world? One possible explanation is that they may not have received permission to drive on public roads. EU Robotaxi won't happen for a very long time. The reason you ask is probably because of the numerous accidents and fatalities caused by autopilot and FSD. Robotaxis will only affect the latest models and not the older ones due to hardware issues, if it occurs at all. How is it fair to say that it's acceptable to stop producing ICE cars and make people convert to electric vehicles, particularly if you live in America and take great pride in your freedom?
i’m not sure if oxygen is flammable, but I know pure oxygen helps fire burn faster, and hotter. Look at the space shuttle that caught on fire with the astronauts inside.
Hydrogen will be pressurized to 10,000 psi. That will go 💥 for sure. Hydrogen is mental to play with. I have experimented with hydrogen for 3 years getting my cars to run on hydrogen. It worked but very dangerous and took a lot of maintenance
No way would I ever loan out my Tesla for an FSD program, to let careless people trash it, or perhaps vomit on the carpet. If you dont own the vehicle you ride in and simply use it for a taxi - you wont care about keeping it nice. But I did purchase FSD, so that someday when I sell my vehicle, someone else might pay more to purchase it to loan it out as a Robotaxi. Also... I do think Elon has grossly oversold the value of a robot car that can work 24-hours a day. What I think Elon missed, is that a car that would typically last 10 years, will have a life span of only 2.5 years with that kind of daily usage. So that model is not all "gravy" as he has implied.
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Your husband is very complimentary to you; glad he was added to the show full time. Keep on with the great job 🎉🎉🎉❤🎉
Thank you so much!!
Having had an H2 fuel cell vehicle (it was my wife who wanted it against my advice), the infrastructure hasn't had any improvements, over the range from 2017 to 2024. I just passed the single fueling station in Torrance and there was a big line of Mirais waiting for the nozzle to thaw so they could have their turn. Right now, half the H2 stations are down and/or have no fuel across Southern California.
With a degree in Fluid, Thermal and Aerospace Sciences Engineering, I can guarantee: All the best H2 fuel cell technology results in: very expensive fuel, a poor reliability and a sparse delivery system, lackadaisical vehicle power, greenhouse gas leaking, a cramped vehicle interior, lots of CO2 production, the danger of blowing up your garage due to the inevitable fuel leaks and little Hindenburgs all over the road. At 10,000 PSI, a leak that catches fire is a stronger blowtorch than anything you’ve ever seen. It will cut through a Cybertruck’s stainless steel. An H2 bus in Bakersfield already blew up damaging the fueling station so much, they just shut the whole H2 bus experiment down. This year, a natural gas semi near the harbor burned then blew up injuring 9 firemen. An H2 semi explosion would be even more powerful.
BMW must have some scheme going to get something out of Toyota. They can’t actually be planning on producing and selling these vehicles. Once BMW gets what it wants, the project will quietly die.
I have FSD and I have no plans to turn my car into a Robo taxi. I don’t trust that people will not smoke barf or do other crazy things inside my car.
I agree, it makes no sense to rent out your car to strangers. The cameras can't see everything they could do to it.
I'm always impressed by how well done your videos are and the natural flow they have. Clearly well thought out and researched. Great on-screen chemistry. Congrats!!
Wow, thank you!
Well, they are husband and wife, and he's been behind the scene of all their videos.
BMW is committing corporate suicide times 2. Never partner with Toyota and never try to build a Hydrogen car.
Hydrogen is a very, very tiny molecule. So tiny it can fit in the spaces between metal atoms in an alloy, eventually leaking out and in the process destroying the structural properties of the alloy. Every aspect of making Hydrogen, storing it , transporting it and using it is a minefield of technology hurdles that no sane engineer would try to tackle if other options are available.
I worked in the petroleum industry in the 70's where we used H2 to alter petroleum molecules to make them more useful. I have seen first hand the problems H2 causes and we still hear about it with H2-fueled rockets.
But what if they surprise us with onboard hydrogen making / fuel cell technology? No tanks, no storage, tremendous range.
@@aussie2uGA then the hydrogen still has to go to the motor/engine to power it and the problems are still there.
@@aussie2uGANever happen. Laws of physics favor BEVs.
there have been insane advancements since the 70s. i welcome their confidence, it will only push us all forward no matter if they succeed or fail
I have a 2022 Model Y long range and I use it for my medical courier business.
I have subscribed to full self-driving and utilize it quite a bit. I like it! It works well, but one annoying factor. There is a switch that can be turned on to “minimize lane changes during this drive.” The problem is that the switch defaults to the off position and must be turned back on several times during my day. This requires me to go to settings/autopilot and turn the switch on. If the car shuts off and locks when I get out to deliver and then get in and then go to my next delivery if I use self-driving again most times the switch that turns on minimal lane changes for this drive in the autopilot settings defaults to off. This means that I get back on the road and turn on full self-driving and the car immediately tries to change lanes to get into a lane that may be moving better with the flow of traffic. But it may not be a lane change that I desired so I have to continually go back into settings and turn the switch on to minimize lane changes once again.
Think Hindenburg when you think of hydrogen. Also I don't think the physics works when you consider all the energy you have to put into making the hydrogen and then putting it into your car and then converting it into battery energy to run an electric motor when you can just use electricity to run an electric motor. Hydrogen is also the smallest element and its corrosive so those tanks won't last very long as well as the storage tanks and all the connectors from the tank to the hose that you hook to your car.
Hydrogen is super inefficient and impractical, see Michael Bernard on electrify everything
H2 has to be stored in a Dewar flask or tank because it can't be compressed into a liquid, it *has* to stay cold to remain liquid or it just expands until the pressure is insane, so it must be slowly vented as it warms up. Being the smallest atom, it leaks through everything and there's 0 infrastructure for it. If you're handy and the breaker box is close, you could have an EV plug in your driveway for tens of dollars 😂 H2 makes no sense at all!
The amount of energy and resources required to produce fuel for vehicles, be it gas, diesel, or batteries is substantial. There's a strong probability that hydrogen production for transportation will be expensive as well. Hydrogen powered vehicles have been around for many years and the only documented complaints I have seen have been on availability of fuel, no tank issues.
Before my electric car, I had a NGV (Natural Gas Vehicle) In CA one could get the car pool privileges and I had to work more than 1 hr away so NVG was the choice. The problem with these cars and a H2 car is that the tank takes a lot of space and its under very high pressure. I believe a H2 pressure take is over 4,000 psi. It’s difficult to compress H2, so the range will be limited.
Excellent content Kim. And a much improved flow between the two of you too! Wonderful!
27:40 "Get some ASS" "Do you promise?!?" "No ✋️" Ya'll had me cracking up. 😂 Love it. Looking forward to two episodes in one week.
"Hydrogen is a distraction; our focus should be on expanding EV charging networks. Not only is producing hydrogen expensive and energy-intensive, but charging at home is also incredibly convenient and efficient."
America should follow France's example in requiring all large parking lots to install solar panels. Makes sense to have EVs charge underneath. America should also follow Australia's example in terms of residential solar + batteries.
One simple feature I wish they would add is customizable equalizer presets for the stereo. Preferably with additional presets for each driver. Wife likes to listen to music while I mostly listen to podcasts. I hate having to lower the bass settings each time I get in the car.
I could use a 100kwh battery in the refresh as I tow a small holiday trailer and 120 miles of range with my Model Y 2023 just is not enough.
Hey you guys, Hello from Australia, really love your podcasts! Keep up the great work 😁
Awesome! Thank you!
Some years ago we had a wireless charger for our 2013 Chevy Volt. It was called Plugless. Worked pretty well for a couple of years. It died as did the company.
Two Teslas with FSD. Zero interest in using them as robo taxis.
A minor change I’d like to see is the time and temperature moved over to the left side of the display.
Yes oxygen is flammable.
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Hope we see Smart summon in Australia soon. Right now there is no difference between FSD and the included Autopilot with the only thing you get is that it doesn't disengage autopilot on lane changes. Excited for whats coming
"Thanks for riding Johnny Cab!"
I would not put my car out as a robotaxi. Passengers would tear it up.
I live in Canada and I simply can't see FSD working like it needs to 100% of the time in all the bad weather we get up here... It complains in a light drizzle... I think we will need radar and lidar to help the cars see in bad weather! Works great in perfect conditions though! Not flawless though... It still doesn't deal with construction well and there are a few fringe situations that it doesn't deal well with. There's this one street in my city that has a blind corner leading to a single lane bridge and it just flew around that corner and I had to take over. That situation needs to be handled like a stop yeild slowing down through the corner to see if another car is coming head on! Also on the highway there was construction and they had pylons just on our side pushing cars to the outside of the lane where we have to drive over the outer white line... The car instead of coming over did an emergency breaking on a 100 series highway instead of just slowing and moving over. The car does not like driving over lines! Also on that same highway there are a few merge lanes that are short and the car merging looks like it's going to drive right into the side of you right before turning at the last minute and despite the fact that the merging car had isn't own lane my car did an emergency break for no reason... Very dangerous... If a car had been behind me they would have hit me for sure! Its getting better but there are still far too many WTF moments with FSD.
Another niche situation i observed twice is it doesnt account for other drivers doing illegal or impropre things. For example twice when i was driving on the highway trucks had been gradually entering my lane. Instead of leaning the car to the left to avoid à potential collision it stays centréd in the lane and forced me to take over as there would have been à collision for sure
So what version of FSD were you drive on?
@theodorehaskins3756 12.5.2 is my current but I think it was 12.5.1.3 at the time of my above stories. I'll test it again to see if it passes that blind corner test though.
Didnt know you are located in GA! Im at GA too! Hope one day meeting you! Got my first tesla watching your videos!
Very cool!
I would try tesla network for my personal model 3. I' m concerned about insurance and charging of the car remotely, plus damage to the car inside and out.
Thoughts on my personal car being used as a robotaxi. My car has a steering wheel and brake pedals. What would stop a taxi passenger from deciding to drive it himself? What if the car has an accident or gets a traffic ticket while acting as a taxi? Who pays, my insurance or Tesla? I am not excited about a drunk passenger puking in my car while using it as a taxi, or damaging the car. I could see passengers knife the seats or vandalize the car if their is no other human in the car.
No way in hell would I let my car be used for robotaxi. Ways too much liability.
Love the show!!! Y’all are great together!
Hydrogen!!!! In Australia we call it flogging a dead hoarse
I would point out that a human driver faces the same problems as a robodriver without ultrasonics or radar since humans also cannot detect outside the visible spectrum.
So how do humans drive in poor lighting conditions? You drive more slowly to give yourself enough time to react when you can see at short range. You use visual cues like guardrails, sign posts, and tire ruts when the road markings are covered in snow. You use the lighting from other cars’ headlights and their movements to tell that there’s a curve ahead in the darkness.
I’m no expert, but I think Tesla is trying to mimic the human driver’s behavior as best they can.
It’d be so fun to attend the event at the studio
Love your channel! I am a new Tesla owner and you all have the most realistic view of Tesla’s direction.
They could make it more efficient if they made a microwave/heater element Pizza oven, preheating the pizza with microwave then having the electric oven portion for the crispy finish. This would allow for thick crust pizza and use way less electricity than a full heater element pizza oven done on a a conveyer system. The thick crust pizza would go into a commercial browning microwave oven for 2 minutes, then the door opened and the pizza put onto a 1 to 1.5minute radiant oven conveyor to finish the pizza to perfection. The energy use would go way down, giving the CyberTruck more range to go back to recharging.
Toyota on 3rd generation of Hydrogen is a great point. I would say 3 generations of a red herring.
Hands free frunk open: Seems like a hidden button in the air intake area (Model S/X) you could have an aftermarket button. Not handsfree I know, but better than nothing.
So far, to go with green H2, it takes about 6 times as much electricity to drive an H2 car as to drive the same distance in a battery car.
I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone test out the summon in a parking garage, that's the one area I don't know if it could really handle given the different signs and paths to go up and down in the structure
Hi Kim and PJ. ASS is coming with 12.5.3. I have 12.5.2, the right hardware, and no ASS. Well, you know what I mean -- I have plenty of ass, just not Actually Smart Summon.
I have a Bon Jovi style jacket that is very similar to the one Kim is wearing in this video.
I have FSD on my 2018 Model 3. I've been waiting for 6 years to make my car a Robotaxi
Hope it works because those early adaptors of FSD have been called suckers for years. Maybe its redemption time.
I think you are wrong about "Unpark, Park and Reverse in FSD". While these features will make Smart Summon better and will enable implementation of Banish, that is not what this is about. Right now, you have to exit FSD to park. "Park in FSD" will find a parking space and park there when you reach your destination, no disengagement. Tesla likes to reverse into parking spaces, but can't do it on FSD, "U,P & R" will allow to reverse into a space while on FSD. It will also allow the car to drive forward into angled spaces and then reverse itself out (Unpark). "Unpark", naturally, means you get into your car, set your destination and engage FSD, FSD can then back out of a parking space, if necessary, and get onto your nav route. "Reverse in FSD" means that it can back out of a tight alley or dead end situation if it decider it can't proceed with forward motion. Improvements to Smart Summon and implementation of Banish will happen, but "U, P &R in FSD" is a new skill set for FSD.
As an engineer with 40 years experience, I feel a hydrogen car is crazy. There’s no infrastructure and cost to produce hydrogen is too expensive.
Hydrogen leaks so you cannot contain it. You won’t see it shipped like gas, but rather produced where needed making it very expensive.
Battery cars are the big thing now, but anything can come along and disruption can happen, if its accepted as the leap forward.
I never could figure out..and don't now, understand how FSD or its relations can possibly work without sonics or radar. Consider a condition where it is pitch dark or fog obscured. The cameras are in the visible spectrum so they won't be able to see many obstructions. You have no lateral lighting so this needs to be explained to me.
Wireless charging is a must. It was the hardest thing to do to convince apple to go with wireless. But the advantages are obvious. When it's raining/snowing you don't need to get out of your car. There is a safety element here too since I have recharged in some p r e t t y shady neighborhoods where they're just waiting for you. As far as having one in your garage, it's no different than having your car in your garage charging. The pad is NOT on unless the car is parked over it and has a valid handshake. Repeated studies regarding radiation is non sequitur. Your phone puts out much more radiation at giga high frequencies than a 400 hz charging pad. They should have incorporated this years ago. It eliminates the wear and tear on the connector both for the adapter AND for the car itself. Any losses are thus mitigated.
As for BMW, they are so mired in the past that there is little hope. Electricity is easy to transport and I can't imagine hydrogen pipelines running all over the country.
How do you drive in poor visibility conditions? I have driven in so pretty bad weather conditions where the car was able to see better than I could.
I plan to use my MY’s robotaxi features. I can’t wait. My expectation is that my MY would be able to navigate herself out of the backyard driveway out into the narrow gate so she has to be able to fold her side view mirrors on her own and she will fit right through; be able to take me to work, come back home to park in the backyard driveway, pick me up when I summon and drive back home and properly park in the backyard driveway.
don't hold your breath on that.
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No worries, my friend! It will be able to do all of that and more! Tesla got this! The competition will be nowhere to be found! It’s gonna be game over for some of these legacy, auto manufacturers, as they simply won’t be able to compete! Cheers 🥂
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You must be very naiv to believe that...
Dont you think there is a reason there is no longer any real FSD you can buy?
They changed it to "Supervised" !
The current used hardware on sold cars isn't capable to turn your car into a driverless Robo Taxi!
Don't you think there is a reason you can no longer buy real FSD?
They changed it into "Supervised" only!
The current hardware isn't capable of turning your Model 3,Y or X into a Robo Taxi via simple OTA as Musk promised 2019 at the "Autonomy Day" event!
I just can’t get past how they called it ASS, gotta love how Tesla names their stuff
Well the hydrogen thing could really only work if they can find a way to make hyrdogen directly from water that is stored in a tank. And converted quick enough and cheaply enough to be on demand. I doubt that they have figured this out. At least not yet.
I wouldn't recommend hydrogen for such a small platform such as a passenger car. I'd probably try magnetics or plasma first. The storage of hydrogen can't really be miniaturized in an efficient way. So the weight and size of it won't really be worth it. At least not in such a small scale. Bigger trucks maybe, but it still wouldn't be my first choice in another type of energy source.
Can you talk about how to make the follow distance smoother. Often the car behind wants to crash into you when slowing down.
A lot of these concerns for robotaxi are no different than regular taxis or Uber... Passengers have just as much ability to puke or knife the seats or even hijack the driving as they would in normal rideshares. I assume the Tesla would be monitoring somehow, hopefully with interior cameras but even if not, the perpetrator runs the same risk of getting caught which I think would be enough to keep most people in check. If you'd be ok working for Uber (which isn't everyone and that's fine), it should be the same feeling letting your Tesla be a robotaxi.
Isn’t the advantage that AI has vs Human drive is the ability to plug in more data sources or inputs? I get wanting to do camera only but why not have sonar and radar or lidar as data inputs to cover all scenarios more effectively? FSD is amazing, but just used it at tonight and it hard braked when an incoming car with his lights came. They were in their lane but had there been other data sources to validate the camera inputs that may have not happened.
I thought about doing the Taxi thing but decided not but still thought about sending the car back home for the wife to use the car and summon it when I am ready to come home but not very confident yet.
Now…THAT’S a great use!!! Could get rid of our second car.
@@nthused my exact thought Originally. Even if I have second vehicle that’s gas it could just sit more.
I just bought a brand new (6 weeks old) Model X and I love it, I have FSD, but for some reason I don't have summon or smart summon. I have the newer camera's, but I'm not sure why I don't have Summon? It must have something to do with HW3 or HW4?? Why would Tesla sell me a new X with hardware that doesn't support the summon feature? Hopefully it comes to me soon??
I have a new model 3 2024 hw4. I am on FSD 12.5.2 and no smart summons. What version does ASS come out?
Vision monitoring doesn’t work well. It’s still constantly has me grab the wheel. But I’m willing to bet only newer models with FSD will be able to robo taxi
Hydrogen tanks will have crazy phantom loss it takes a lot of energy to keep hydrogen super cold and condenses.
So I bought a brand new model Y performance with FSD eight weeks ago and I still have not received my first update. The car is running on software that came out in April. This is very frustrating and I’m wondering if anybody knows when I should be seeing all those great updates.
I have a MX, I wouldn't use CyberTaxi for my vehicle. MX tire wear is what's on my mind.
Regarding BMW doing hydrogen, I wonder if they are thinking it's hard to compete with Chinese EVs even if there are tariffs on them. I wouldn't mind getting a hydrogen car, as we still don't know what the environmental impacts of EVs will be. We had a BMW i3 that had its battery replaced, our Tesla is newer so we don't have to worry about it, but am curious what it will look like in another 4 or 5 years. The long term worries me from perspective of battery replacements.
I think the best use for Hydrogen in vehicles is long distance heavy trucking.
I have a question about FSD. I bought my 2018 Model 3 LR RWD in June 2018. In April 2019, I bought EAP and FSD for $5000 total during that "firesale" Tesla had. At the time, I remember Tesla stating that my car would get all necessary hardware and software upgrades (at no extra cost) that were necessary for FSD. In 2020, I got the HW3 retrofit. Am I all good to take advantage of the new summon as well as being able to use FSD with sunglasses? Or will I need HW4? Or has Tesla changed the definition of FSD and applied it retroactively to my purchase of FSD back in 2019 so that I no longer get all necessary hardware and software upgrades included at no extra cost? I have heard that I do not get the updated AMD Ryzen chip becuase it is only for the UI interface. Thanks in advance for your time.
Hi da had hydrogen cars already but they only had 2 stations to fill up. Somewhere in like Irvine/ O.C and I forgot where th next one was. But they still have them because they still have some hydrogen cars around. They only sold those cars in a few dealerships (2) because they only had a few hydrogen stations.
Hydrogen only makes sense for a closed system where the vehicles go daily on a local run. It might make sense for postal service home delivery runs. It makes no sense at all for anything that goes long distance. Any hydrogen that would be supplied to a fill-up station would have to be trucked there. Pipelines just for hydrogen is out of the question. On the other hand, electricity is virtually everywhere and can be made on the spot with solar panels and storage batteries.
Might make sense for someone that owns a hydrogen company, hydrogen is ass
Cybertruck pizza 🍕 totally awesome! 😋
With coils big enough for EV charging I bet that could interfere with body implants like pacemakers
Turn your car into robotaxi is not a good idea. I know because I do ride share and people trash your car while you’re there. Imagine what they’ll do when you’re not there!
Depends of how much money they have and it they have insurance in case passangers break sm
Having multiple children doesn't multiply the cost, things like hand me downs and the older child helping with chores come into play, so 2 children doesn't cost double or 3 children cost triple, there are some efficiencies.
She was just saying that’s the average cost per child 😂
Every time I think about hydrogen cars, I think of the Hindenburg.
I still want a live camera in the front so I can see curbs, bicycles, toys, and stuff just like the rear.
regarding IR sensor cameras looking through your sunglasses: Why don't they (Tesla) just use capacitive touch steering wheels like other companies?
I don't need/want a 1000km range car. I like to stop after 250km of driving. Who drives 1000km without a stop?
ICE car drivers apparently
Would love for my car to go out and make some money! Its getting old enough where a scratch or 2 would not bother me.
The hydrogen stations in Norway have been closing down according to Tesla Byorn
Let's go to first principles. 1. A vehicle without driver controls (e.g. wheel & pedals) is NOT a "car". It's the passenger carrying component of a new class of public transportation. A "car" is all about driving ... hands on the wheel ... eyes on the road ... carving the corners. 2. A robo-taxi/cyber-cab/whatever is fundamentally a "taxi" ... with all the same shortcomings and use cases of that transportation medium. They will be used by the same customers and in the same use cases now served by taxi/Uber/Lyft, etc. They may replace the taxi/Uber/Lyft/etc. DRIVER ... BUT Robo-taxis will not replace the private, personal, vehicle. They will serve existing "taxi" markets like, e.g., dense uban core transportation. In my own case, the only circumstance where I would use a taxi or equivalent is travel to and from the airport to catch a commercial flight. Then at the destination, I would rent a car rather than use a cab. Ironically, if level 5 autonomy is ever actually achieved, that would eliminate that last use case as I would drive my car to the airport and send it home to its garage via FSD to await my summons on my return. 3. If the fundamental purpose of FSD is to make cars that are safer than the average human (as opposed to just enabling robo-taxis) then the only ethical course of action is to make it standard equipment, included in the base price, in every vehicle Tesla sells. 4. The argument that FSD adds value because you can have it running robo-taxi missions while you're not using it is patently absurd. It ignores opportunity cost. My personal vehicle would not be available for my use when out on robo-taxi runs. My car has more value parked in my garage ready for my use whenever I choose to do so that it ever could as a robo-taxi. 5. The idea that I would place my personal vehicle into a robo-taxi fleet to be used and abused by the general public is delusional. If I ever had an urge to enter the robo-taxi business i would buy one or more used examples to dedicate to that role.
yep, buy the many used sub-$20k teslas now and deploy them
The problem is in hydrogen, where is the regenerative energy coming from for diving with hydrogen???
You need four tines more electricity for the same driving distance.
If it's folly produced hydrogen, it's useless... Better burn the oil ;-)
I bought my Tesla MYLR in the beginning of 2021 with the intention that by 2025 or 2026 the latest I would be able to make money with my car. So far, the timeline is looking to be true and even at the earlier end of my guess.
If Tesla removes the ability for that to happen they might find themselves in a class action lawsuit because of customers such as myself
Very simply Tesla will assign a supervisor for each car. He/she will take control in case autopilot fails, accidents, emergencies, etc....by doing then autopilot becomes a piece of cake even in case of bugs...then 3-4 years ago maybe it will be unsupervised. They will at first do 1/1 supervising then 1/2, 1/4 , etc. until they can really remove the supervisors
Same thing is happening with android robots...
Supervised... A guy wearing a sensor suit ready to take control of every movement of the robot....
Hydrogen' there must be a distribution agreement between BMW and the UAE. The main difference between battery and hydrogen is that with batteries you have control to make your own fuel (solar energy) while with hydrogen you will always rely on UAE who will raise the prices at will 😂
Weather/rain often degrades FSD, isn't this a significant obstacle that hasn't been addressed?
Just don't drive when it's raining; problem solved.
I’m with many others here on the Hydrogen. Makes NO sense.
So when can I actually get ASS if I sign up for FSD?
I hope this timeline for Hardware 3 is true, but I don’t see any actual evidence for 12.5.2 on Hardware 3.
With BMW, if your a true green supporter I'd guess you would be for green hydrogen which is pretty expensive to produce right now from renewable electric sources, but way less earth carbon heavy than producing batteries by mining, lithium, combat, and the heavy metals that take TONS of dirt extraction and destruction to produce. Hydrogen if blue from gas or green from renewables seems much more earth friendly and of course much faster to refill. Safety is key though yes. Current battery EVs are far from green, take years to break even - have you kept all your Teslas for say 6+ years?
Can you provide me with info on the investment stock you mentioned on the solar update?
It’s linked in the description of today’s solar video.
www.climatize.earth/kim/
Now, Kim... What do your lil ones say 'bout you 'gettin' some @$$!?' 🤣
I'm all for makin' the dough. However, I'm 100% against 'losing' the wheel and pedals as well as not having a 'driver' behind the wheel whether FSD is being used or not.
You be lookin' AWES💣ME sportin' that black leather jacket!
Basically they are gonna demo what Waymo is already doing?
Waymo can't drive on highways. Waymo can't drive in St. Louis, New York, Chicago or any of thousands of other cities and is years away from being able to do highways or roads that haven't been HD mapped. Tesla FSD already takes me everyplace I need to go, with the primary effort on my part being parking on lots with angled spaces. It even handles unmapped roads on a farm I visit to get back onto mapped roads. Can Waymo?
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Then why present it in a closed off area and not the open road?
I guarantee you that if you have a Model 3 or Y a simple OTA as promised by Musk on "Autonomy Day" 2019 will not turn your car into a Robo Taxi!
He fooled the naive people and i already knew back then it's not possible with the current hardware!
You don't believe me?
Check on their website!
You no longer can buy real FSD, just Supervised!
So what happend to you sitting in the bar and summoning your car from home to pick you up or driving your children to school fully autonomous without you needing to be in the driver's seat!?
What hapoend to the crazy dreams many had turning their Teslas into money making Taxis?
Not going to happen!
All you get is a very,very good assistant system you allways will be responsible for!
No car company would ever be that crazy to take over full responsibility for the driving of their customers cars!
Regarding hydrogen cars being "flammable." The main difference between flammable and inflammable is that flammable objects can be set on fire, while inflammable objects can burst into flames without needing to be ignited.
Toyota are sadly still blindsided by Hydrogen,in the UK we currently have 15 Hydrogen stations which pretty much tells you all you need to know,Thanks Guys 👍
You lose the brakeing regeneration!
FSD is nice but no where near done.
What happened to the chapters?
Shows up on our end. You not seeing it?
I don’t like the idea of FSD. I won’t use and never will.
I thought like you until I actually used it. Know I can’t imagine not having it. It blows me away by how good it is. Def not perfect but it’s obvious Tesla will solve autonomy after using it for some time.
Why is Robotaxi being shown on a closed course when it should be demonstrated in the real world? One possible explanation is that they may not have received permission to drive on public roads. EU Robotaxi won't happen for a very long time. The reason you ask is probably because of the numerous accidents and fatalities caused by autopilot and FSD. Robotaxis will only affect the latest models and not the older ones due to hardware issues, if it occurs at all. How is it fair to say that it's acceptable to stop producing ICE cars and make people convert to electric vehicles, particularly if you live in America and take great pride in your freedom?
i’m not sure if oxygen is flammable, but I know pure oxygen helps fire burn faster, and hotter. Look at the space shuttle that caught on fire with the astronauts inside.
Hydrogen will be pressurized to 10,000 psi. That will go 💥 for sure. Hydrogen is mental to play with. I have experimented with hydrogen for 3 years getting my cars to run on hydrogen. It worked but very dangerous and took a lot of maintenance
Hydrogen is being developed for on demand usage into fuel cell, not a storage tank. We will see if they can do it.
We need a a larger model y the size of model
X
When on October 10th is the Tesla event?
Which is updated fsd update?
wasn't the Hindenburg filled with hydrogen?
No way would I ever loan out my Tesla for an FSD program, to let careless people trash it, or perhaps vomit on the carpet. If you dont own the vehicle you ride in and simply use it for a taxi - you wont care about keeping it nice. But I did purchase FSD, so that someday when I sell my vehicle, someone else might pay more to purchase it to loan it out as a Robotaxi. Also... I do think Elon has grossly oversold the value of a robot car that can work 24-hours a day. What I think Elon missed, is that a car that would typically last 10 years, will have a life span of only 2.5 years with that kind of daily usage. So that model is not all "gravy" as he has implied.
How do I know if my car is capable I have. 2023 Model Y for hands free open.