@@Brasidas.the.Spartan or... Balance of Performance. People want close racing, wheel to wheel, battles. The battle for the 10th position was way more interesting than the podium (I'm guessing because I felt asleep)
Checo’s dad is the most bubbliest person i’ve ever seen. I just love how happy he is no matter the circumstances🥰 Edit: I didn’t know the full story of how he is a corrupt politician and i’m sorry
Corruption is how Mexican politics work. The saying is, everybody’s got to eat. Don’t blame the politicians, blame the people who keep allowing it to happen
He strolled through the general admission area on T1 in Austin a couple weekends ago and it was a pleasant surprise. Checo fans were going crazy for him, and I managed to take a selfie with him. He kept saying "okay I have to go" after each selfie but fans kept asking for pictures and he stopped every time to take one with them. He was great.
I like the fact that circuits and conditions are DIFFERENT around the globe and across the calendar. It's what makes Formula 1 a global sport. A calendar of 20 "ideal" tracks with similar conditions would feel very "samey" - the altitude in Mexico, the narrowness of Monaco, the chance of rain in Suzuka... all of these make the F1 year the rollercoaster it is!
Yeah, but did you watch the race? Even the announcers were joking about how boring it was. I think Monaco should be worth half points and they should put the F1 drivers in F3 cars to make things a little more interesting
I don’t think the regs have made racing better necessarily. Following through corners is some percent easier 20%? But slipstream and DRS are less powerful. Notice the huge drs trains this year.
@@ridleyy998 this is the truth. there have been some fantastic races but the season as a whole has been a bit of a let down. hopefully ferrari and mercedes catch up next year. if they dont, I feel like we're going to have another redbull period of domination until the new engine regs come in.
Yepp, but you can keep characteristics while still having decent racing, the issue is slow sections before drs detection zones or overtaking opportunities
The easiest solution in my eyes is to make Mexico the very first - or the very last track of a season; try to be as close to winter as possible! :) Cooler air is more dense.
Monaco has the great, varied scenery to make up for the dullness, though. The roar of the Mexican crowd when the cars drive through that one part of the stadium is neat, but after a few times it ceases to have much effect and all you're left with is a boring circuit.
One of the other reasons why the circuit is so bad is the lack of elevation change. You’d think they would be able to find literally any other part of Mexico City that isn’t completely flat
Mexico City is very flat because most of it was literally a lake that the Aztecs filled with rocks... It's a better idea to try to make a good flat track tbh hahahah
Fundamentally, with all the tracks I've raced on in games, the way to get great racing is to have a few consecutive corners before a straight, where you have to get every single one right and with huge reaction times with numerous things you need to do to perfect the sequence. One single screw up destroys the line for the entire sequence, destroying that perfect exit. So 4 complex chances to screw up the exit onto the straight instead of 1 simple chance. That way, every corner counts instead of being able to screw one up but get away with it because you have time to fix your line before the next corner.
I like your lines cuz' I remembered how Prost broke down McLaren supposed dominance with a good race setup for this track. As a Senna fan, such a demonstration of being turtle during qualifying helped Alain to be the dark horse there. LOL Really, more corners then straightaways is clue for big show so no more DRS required.
Yes these changes are spot on. The angle of the esses also seems not quite right. A bit more highspeed would be cool, stadium is on point with a straighter exit and then maybe make the last corner banked like zandvoort. DRS a bit earlier and then you can overtake on the straight.
moving the DRS line for the main straight before the stadium section can also help out imo, the fact that the stadium spreads the cars out prevents the DRS action on the main straight
3:08 My experience at Singapore GP, watching from Bay Grandstand (Turn 17 & Turn 18). Being able to see the cars for longer time does not provide more joy. It gets boring pretty quick. For me at least. I wish I had picked the stand that can view the cars moving at top speed and then a sharp turn.
Honestly the circuit itself isn't that bad, for racing it's definitely better than Paul Ricard and Barcelona. The altitude is really the biggest problem, even if you change the track it will still have the same problems. Alonso said on the grid he would be managing the car from lap 2. As soon as a driver gets within 2 seconds of the car in front they have overheating brakes and engine (not just tyres). I think the FIA should look into tweaking the technical regs for this track to minimise the pain from overheating and maximise the racing. They could mandate that all teams run the maximum amount of cooling possible on their cars, instead of letting them decide. And mandate that all teams maximise drag so that the slipstream is as strong as possible. If teams are already running the max, then the FIA should look into either having more aggressive cooling/aero just for this race, or think about moving the GP to a lower altitude location.
Turn 5 was the most interesting part of the circuit and the place where there was the most action shown if I can recall but I agree with the rest. Sadly I don’t feel like they will change the layout since they already did when it was introduced. If you look at Abu Dhabi it took them too many years to fixe the track. I still hope they do because even I like the vibe it’s a boring race.
Some don’t want to admit it but Mexico is a bottom 5 track in F1. Ever since they went back there haven’t been any iconic moments aside from drivers blowing turn 1 and the start from 2018 and 2021. I really hope there’s a fix somewhere because the atmosphere is incredible.
Without changing any of the grand stands T1 would be closer to 70 degrees with turn T2 being a curve that’ll connect to the 2nd straight. And there would be a DRS detection point somewhere after T1. Turns 4 and 5 would remain the same, but T6 would be a curve like the Vietnamese GP had. T12 would be more acute meaning larger braking zone.
To be honest... only 3 races left. Just swallow this pill for 3 years. That's it. The reason why Mexico was extended until 2025 is because Checo's contract with Red Bull runs until 2024. I don't really think he'll be staying in F1 for the 2025 season, so that year's race will gauge if Mexico is still a good venue. And without a Mexican on the grid (Piastri killed any hope for Pato O'Ward getting into F1), I can't see people filling the stands. Seriously, as a Mexican F1 fan, it's annoying that many "F1 fans" you can find here are only bandwagoners who only want to hear "arguments" favoring Checo, but can't really tell apart the mediums from the inters. Annoying, because when you say something "against" Checo, like pointing out his lack of one-lap pace (which has been his Achiles heel through his career, with bad Saturday performances), they treat you like if you were an ignorant or a hater. Worst if you point out something good about Hamilton or (due to their current runner-up fight) Leclerc. Once Checo is gone from the grid... they won't stay.
Mexican here! i've said since 2015 that F1 regulations damage the autodromo so unnecessarily. Main topic always has been the lost in peraltada as people blamed Foro Sol stadium construction for that when was the lack of runoff area in the outside of the corner. It's the same thing with Parabolica in Monza, both are an flat 180° right corner with no visibility inside but an open area in Monza's case. Add that twisty section inside the stadium was just a creative idea to use that part for the public. The main problem I see was the lost of the flow in the 2015 layout. Corners 1-3 and 4-6 were turn into a 90° corners instead of a nicely right-left corners due to the requirements in F1 to have a heavy breaking zone to attemp an overtake. Then the esses section (7-11) were a mix of technical corners from low to high speeds and were transformed into a nonesense medium-low-medium weird mix. The stadium section you can adjust it with a single 90° left corner but will no change so much for F1 cars (the same way Champ Car race in 2002-2005). If someone review Champ Car Mexico race from 2002-2007 will notice how much flow Hermanos Rodríguez circuit had, even with or without peraltada/Foro sol section was a good track for a single seater car. This year Nascar Mexico and Formula E, as some other local racing series have developed a better racing product that F1 and I would love to see how Indycar cars could make it if they race here. Never has been a circuit with a lot of overtakes (Mansell is 1 in 20 editions) but at least used to be a proper circuit for racing, maybe F1 cars are so wide for this track to have great battles that don't require the long main straight for overtake.
I think the most important part to why the Mexican GP was bad is because of the altitude. Even with the new cars, they still can’t follow close enough without overheating and having to drop back. I don’t think the layout is much of an issue
I like the idea of getting rid of the existing turn 2 and 3 chicane and creating another DRS zone. it could only help, especially if the radius of turn 1 is tighten to create a great passing zone. In terms of changes to the current turns 5 and 6, why not change that section into a true hairpin? A hairpin that is similar to the original turn 6 of the circuit. Look it up. It would be a great option for the circuit because there would be a ton of passing opportunities. When this layout was revealed I mentioned a similar change to the stadium section turns. It would be much better for the race action.
Hey, just a quick note: With the new UA-cam design, thumbnails are shown with rounded edges, which leads to your thumbnails looking a bit odd around the corners, maybe you should have a look at that :) Keep up the great content!
It’s not really a bad track, but F1 fans need to stop labelling tracks as boring whenever there’s a full race at one. Spa and Silverstone have had dull races in memory too. The problem with Mexico is the altitude so less effect on slip streaming. But other than that, the circuit has provided some good racing over the years.
Thank You for covering this - Have been saying it since a while - The circuit has great potential but is poorly designed in terms of overtaking opportunities. Fans don’t just watch for the cars to go by - many of the corners are so tight that it’s literally impossible to overtake and a bit of changes to the corners to make them better (wider) will make it easier for overtaking opportunities to take place
I disagree that it was the worst race this season. The top three teams had no real battles, but remember there's 7 other teams. The midfield teams were consistently battling, not to mention Danny Ric's charge, which was incredible. And about the grandstand section separating the cars, making it faster would be far worse considering the length of the main straight.
First time seeing a Mexico City GP and I totally agree! I love the fact there is a stadium, but god it was painfully boring to see the cars go so slow in there.
Remember what happened at Imola in '94 at corner Tamburello? Of course we don't need that first chicane removed. Plus it gives great potential for switch-back moves.
What is sad is that some of the suggestions made here about the layout were what the circuit was like before the current layout. The first turn originally was a right hand sweeper, the esses flowed more and had grass or gravel run off and of course the final turn was awesome. Too bad it was changed…😢
Problem #1. The first DRS zone doesn't generate enough overtaking. This is because turn one isn't tight enough. Problem #2. The second DRS zone doesn't generate enough overtaking. This is because the straight isn't long enough. given the slow exit speed from turn three. Solution: I'd shorten the pit straight by introducing a tighter right-left chicane like what we have at Monza. That creates a proper overtaking opportunity into the first turn. I'd then convert the existing turn one-two-three complex into a flat-out double-apex right-hander leading into the DRS zone. This will give the chasing car more momentum going into the DRS zone and with a better run into the braking zone for better overtaking opportunity.
I don't know what you're talking about, it was a perfectly good race. No safety cars? No big wrecks? No Scandal? If you need those things to enjoy a motorsport, please just watch NASCAR. The altitude challenges the engineers, and gives teams with different design philosophies an opportunity to stand out. The variety in the environment is a good thing. The tire strategy was intriguing, the limited testing and practice time spiced things up, and results were determined by driver skill and team strategy. Mercedes pulled a Ferrari this week, because they were genuinely on pace to take a win, or at least challenge for the win, and they screwed the pooch on strategy - but I still enjoyed the race, and Kudos to Max for making those softs last. That was amazing.
It's a Tilkedrome with copy and pasted aspects from the other circuits not taking into account they don't work at 2240m above sea level. Give us more elevation changes!
Not every race has to be a banger and not everything has to be entertainment. The main thing a circuit needs is character and I do think Mexico (even the layout) counts as a circuit with a lot of character and with it's own unique challenge. With the idea proposed in this video, every track will be about the same
Nah, the Mexican layout is really boring. The only interesting part are the esses, the rest is just sharp corners thst make the tyres overheat, especially if you are following
high top speeds, lack of air resistance = less effect for DRS and slip stream. The straights appear shorter too when you go down them at 345kph instead of 310.
I totally agree with everything you said, but those changes to produce a better layout circuit would mean a lot of budget to spend and that will not happen, the people completely full out the circuit as it is, most of them do not even go for the race, but for the party croud experience, the ones who go to the circuit and us the ones who watch it from tv deserve a better circuit to enjoy a decent race.
The track needs a little fix right now... Hopefully the next year. The atmosphere its amazing. Glads for everyones in the channel from Mérida Yucatán México 🏎️🌟✨🇲🇽
Am I the only one who thought the race was not that bad? The entire thing was like a race strat chess game for me. Seeing all the strategies getting played out was quite interesting
Yeah but you have a very rare thing these days.. an attention span. Most people can't stay off of their phones for five seconds so an F1 race has to be "over the top" and have crazy action on track to draw their interest away from doom scrolling on their phone or tweeting about how boring the race is. I agree it wasn't that bad, and it was interesting, but for someone with an attention span of a goldfish it will seem boring.
@@bwxmoto After seeing so many "fast contending car with failed race strat" races, I definitely knew to enjoy the race better. There were point where I caught myself calculating pit window and saying "holy shit, daniel is still on soft??"
@@poppygin4807 Yeah it’s definitely a strategy game and that can be entertaining and interesting if you know what’s going on! I also remember very clearly when there were no F1 races for ling stretches of time, and a so-called boring F1 race is so much better than no F1 race. That mariachi band played the F1 theme music was worth the entire watch to me anyways.
It's more the fact that it got quite stale in the first 6 positions. Only those laps with Checo chasing Lewis were remotely interesting. All tyre compounds lasting forever didn't help either.
@@soundscape26 Yea, I can see why people find it boring. I just have came to grip with over-analyzing race strat can bring a bit of enjoyment. I would argue that the fact all compounds lasted forever really emphasized on grip level strategies. Top 6 really got stale because of their strat/risk evaluation: RB always balls to the walls with race strat, Merc is super conservative for no reason, and Ferrari smooth brain strat.
All changes that should definitely happen. I feel like tracks care too much about having a bunch of hard turns and not enough about making it easy to pass.
I'd get rid of the baseball stadium section altogether and restore the full final corner (complete with banking) which in the old days was one of the greatest corners in F1.
Looking at a satellite view of the Mexican GP circuit I think a lot of the problems is the position of the track. By the looks of it it is in a deeply densely packed area with residential and sporting facilities packed in. It is same with the stadium section, there is a 180 degree corner last corner but if you use that you wouldn't have anywhere to spectate. This is just an observation, and I haven't been to a F1 race so I could be totally wrong, but the new tracks just don't have the room around the track to spread the spectators. You look at all the old tracks, or at least most of them, and you can spectate almost anywhere around them. It is because of that that they can modify them to improve safety and just the all around spectacle. Silverstone is a prime example. If you take turns 1-3 for example if you do as Matt said and make it a faster Turn 1 and eliminate Turn 2 and 3 you would have no runoff at Turn 1 as it looks like there are sporting facilities on the outside. As for the altitude, well there is nothing you can do about that. You can't just drop the circuit by a thousand feet. You just have to deal with it.
First, I was going to bring back Peraltada turn, destroying the stadium and using the free space to get the track away from the wall and have a big enough escape area. The rest is very similar to what is in the video.
I think if this track was at a lower altitude it would be a lot better… It’s like if you don’t have a huge pace advantage it’s very difficult to get near another car… I mean Checo on mediums couldn’t get near Lewis on the Hards.. it’s like as soon as he got to 1.3 seconds of Lewis he like hit a wall.. and yeah you can say Lewis is better because he is but there should of been enough in that Red Bull to at least take some DRS dives on him …Danny Ric on Softs was able to get by all those drivers on Hards because it was a 1.2 second difference in compounds…
I personally think the issue with Mexico is the double DRS zones on the first couple straights that share the same detection point at turn 15 - plenty of overtakes happened, but drivers were breaking the 1 second barrier so easily because they had DRS on one of the longest straights of the calendar, and then another use after turn 1. I do however like the idea of these changes too because the cars look so sluggish around half the track.
Btw for all the "we need Kyalami" screamers out there - that track is also 1,500+ meters above sea level and has at most one overtaking spot and lots and lots of wiggly parade for this sort of car...
I just wont get why some british people are so biased against latin america. You always read the most stupid and illogical comments against Checo’s performances and a lot of praises towards Russel even though Checo has been miles ahead of him this season. Now they only talk shit about this circuit because ir is in Mexico and Max has always destroyed Lewis in here.
Make the end of the 2nd DRS straight in to one big hairpin, leave a run off area for safety before it rejoins in to the fast corners. The stadium section? Not sure what they do here, the formula E configuration has it go back out where the cars enter so it uses the old school final corner, but its so narrow so FIA would probably deem it unsafe for F1 cars
Your first points invalidate your latter suggestions. If there is less downforce due to air density, then faster corners would most certainly mean higher chances of high-speed accidents at the corners, as has happened before in tracks that have added more chicanes. I get it on the spectacle side of it, but on the safety side it would be doubtful.
What i would do: Keep turn 1 as it is but remove the 2/3 chicane Turn 4/5 chicane to Budapest 6/7 style chicane Make turn 7 corner more gentle, turn 8 longer and adjust turn 9 to that and remove 10 completely. The stadium section as shown on this video
I think the stadium section should exist as is as a joker lap, youd have to go through the stadium section once ever 5 laps but normally the cars use the bypass on the oval circuit
This circuit was one of the best until they destroyed it when they built the stadium inside it, Peraltada was removed and the second sector completely ruined, it was so good back in the days what a shame.
One thing that would help too, is having softer tyres, either the softest in Pirelli’s range or Mexico specific which are one step softer. Being able to do so many ,laps on the sorts, while still sliding around due to lack of grip meant the strategy from the teams just didn’t work. The cars do not have the downforce (either over the body or via the venturi tunnels) for the mid range tyres to actually wear down as quickly as you’d normally get with the larger wings. Maybe Pirelli will learn for next year?
Last few corners should be a full hairpin made nice and wide, then a sweeping right all the way through to the start line, like Zandvoort but less bank
Hey WTF as a fan whose been following Formula one for 3years now I would be happy if you made some videos on the following: 1. Implications of the ABA between FIA and Red bull,I saw the fine and 10% reduction in tunnel time,,however what does that mean on the ground to a lay man? 2. The safety car,so at the beginning of every race we see it at the back and after lap one it just disappear,I know it's nothing big to know but I would like to have an understanding of why it's at the back at the beginning and where it does go after Lap 1. 3.Why has the FIA been so inconsistent in their decisions this year ,or not timely in making them,you can see that in the recent gasly over take and Fernando in COTA.WHERE IS THE VAR FOR F1?
I drove the original circuit in grand prix legends. That was an excellent layout in my opinion. The CART layout had a stadium section that wasn't as fiddly and a more flowing 1st chicane. I like the A1 grand prix layout, while it has a very tight chicane and no stadium section, it has the full banked peraltada turn. Though you wouldn't get that spectacular round the outside overtake by Mansell in the ferrari on berger in the McLaren because of the chicane before it, you do get more of a chance to get a good exit and attack into the more flowing 1st chicane and the esses are more challenging and ever increasing in speed from the entrance to the exit onto the back straight.
I agree with your proposal but differ in one thing I would change the stadium section so that cars can make a u turn inside the stadium section and make the cars take the whole peraltada curv like in the past but safer since they can not take it in top speed. Peraltada is the soul of this track!!. Just as a comment the issue also comes with wider cars and the width of the track was reduce in the curvs and "S" sections in this new era so in the past the reaces in this circuit were not like today.
Great video! I wonder if the stadium section is slow partly to reduce the risk of bad crashes at the final corner. Given we've seen a few there as it is, they'd probably be more common and worse if cars had faster pace exiting the stadium. If it were possible to have the pit entry later and have a less tight final corner (and more space on the outside) then cars could go faster through the stadium section without risking worse crashes at the final corner. This would allow a more flowing line through the stadium. This section really could be great if they had wide corners that enabled 2 cars to follow different lines to set up a pass down the straight. Even if cars spend less time there, it would be much better viewing if it was anything other than cars just following single-file.
You are asking for almost the original layout……the Foro Sol (Amphiteatre) . There was a Banked Curve. In the 90s when the F1 races left Mexico, the Foro appeared as a way to give purpose to the circuit. The Original Circuit was faster, but the banking curve was dangerous. AS Mexican I like a layout, that enjoys the drivers and the audience. And apologies,for the booing, and the bad behavior of the people at the paddock, not giving personal space to drivers.
The atmosphere is the absolute best in the calendar. The crowds, the podium, the F1esta. But I agree that the track is so booooooring. Not as many overtakings and risky moves as in other tracks. I hope they can make some adjustments to the track soon.
I feel like fixing the tracks might be overlooking another problem - how big the cars are. I think we need to consider shrinking the length and width of the cars, so that closer racing is possible. It feels like some tracks aren't equipped to let cars race side by side - if they can't do that, we might as well run a staggered start race, where the goal is to catch the car in front, eliminating them.
Well ... that removal of the corner in the stadium ... is a bad idea. Puts them at way too much speed when the arrive at the next right corner under the stands there, not enough run off or protection room.
Terrible is not the right word . Every track is different and competitive. That's what makes the races interesting and that's how the champion comes out.
Biggest improvement would be, if you would make the last corner (after the Stadium section) a sharp turn instead of this medium speed corner. Then cars with better tires could get a greater difference at exit grip and so exit speed
The turn 2,3 take is so bad. Allows for switchbacks and smart racing. Turn 4 and 5 are great. Allows for dive bombs into turn 4 and cars to swing it around the outside into turn 5. Last sector needs changing. Also as a Danny Ric stan, crazy to here you call this the worst race of the season. Was probably one of my favourites
If you would change the theather to let cars be closer, then have long low drag straight, and then have hard breaking at first corner, it start to hear like automatic overtake without much of resistance.
The circuit layout was much better before Herman Tilke reconfigured it for F1’s return. The main focus seemed to be reducing the radius of most corners, thus reducing cornering speed. It was done intentionally, and I doubt they will do anything about it.
It was an utterly rubbish race last Sunday - was there any on-track overtaking for the top 6? It's a track that suffers from the classic "it's all over after lap 1" syndrome that can still sadly plague some F1 circuits today. I still think Monaco is the worst F1 track for spectators - if it doesn't rain, then there's very little on-track overtaking there.
Agree with turn 1... put 4-6 back to their 1980s version, keep 7-12, replace 13 and 14 with a single 90 left. Open out the penultimate corner slightly (less angle, pull to inside) to make one long 180 acceleration zone.
Honestly apart for the stadium section these changes are kinda crap... I would keep turns 1-3 but open the apex of 2 & 3 (or make the cars smaller). Then I'd make T4 a tight right hander that skips T5 & 6 altogether.
Absolutely agreed, Mexico's GP layout need to be fixed. Remove turn 2 and 3, remove turn 5 to connect smoothly from turn 4 to 6... remove turn 10, to connect 9 to 11, and remove 13 and 14 for a better racing experience.
But track should be tough for car aerodynamics. If you remove the chicanes, fast part, slow part in the last sector. You basically have Nascar track. Of course i want to see exciting races, but some of them strategic race. I enjoy to look timing data aswell.
The atmosphere is electric. Even through a screen. This race deserves a good layout
None of these recomendations make actual sense, nor will they improve racing or spectacle. The problem here is F1 itself. There is no BoP.
@@hoary212 You are right in my opinion, i think the best solution is to create a hard breaking zone in t1 like Bahrain
@@Brasidas.the.Spartan or... Balance of Performance. People want close racing, wheel to wheel, battles. The battle for the 10th position was way more interesting than the podium (I'm guessing because I felt asleep)
@@hoary212 ye people wanna turn every track that’s hard to overtake into melbourne. there’s like 2 corners on that track now 🤣
Mexico City has a lot of potential i hope they can fix the track, the atmosphere is already top tier
Oh.... I like the track
@@tyleroptional2639 Too many S’s
@@thevictoryoverhimself7298 I think it’s more the culture and party they bring it’s always cool asf
The stadium section is cool
.. Reminds me of a bull ring.
Altitude of 2200 m kills engines and cars imo...
Checo’s dad is the most bubbliest person i’ve ever seen. I just love how happy he is no matter the circumstances🥰
Edit: I didn’t know the full story of how he is a corrupt politician and i’m sorry
W Papa Perez
Dirty politician tho 😂
he is as corrupt as he is chubby
Corruption is how Mexican politics work. The saying is, everybody’s got to eat. Don’t blame the politicians, blame the people who keep allowing it to happen
He strolled through the general admission area on T1 in Austin a couple weekends ago and it was a pleasant surprise. Checo fans were going crazy for him, and I managed to take a selfie with him. He kept saying "okay I have to go" after each selfie but fans kept asking for pictures and he stopped every time to take one with them. He was great.
I like the fact that circuits and conditions are DIFFERENT around the globe and across the calendar. It's what makes Formula 1 a global sport. A calendar of 20 "ideal" tracks with similar conditions would feel very "samey" - the altitude in Mexico, the narrowness of Monaco, the chance of rain in Suzuka... all of these make the F1 year the rollercoaster it is!
Yeah I think there can be a balance there between cohesion yet differentiability. Hard one with racing track management having a lot of say
Yeah, but did you watch the race? Even the announcers were joking about how boring it was.
I think Monaco should be worth half points and they should put the F1 drivers in F3 cars to make things a little more interesting
@@nommchompsky or they should make the F1 cars a bit smaller again like they used to be
The narowness of Monaco is shit
This is the best comment what so ever. Every circuit has different conditions that makes attractive the F1.
UA-cam recommending this after we've just had the best ever Mexico GP 💀
100%
This grand prix was so boring even with the new regulations change. It definitely needs some changes if this circuit is to produce interesting races
the track been that way even in local races 😂 and cars are commercial cars such as civics which are smaller only turn 1 have most action
I don’t think the regs have made racing better necessarily. Following through corners is some percent easier 20%? But slipstream and DRS are less powerful. Notice the huge drs trains this year.
the whole season has been boring, all weve seen is one team run away with the championship miles ahead of the rest
@@Dirtlegacyreal I agree the slipstream effect and the differences in straight line speed have really killed a lot of the overtaking
@@ridleyy998 this is the truth. there have been some fantastic races but the season as a whole has been a bit of a let down. hopefully ferrari and mercedes catch up next year. if they dont, I feel like we're going to have another redbull period of domination until the new engine regs come in.
Not to forget, each team trying their hardest to maintain 1 stop here due to high pit stop time loss at the exit phase.
I was so excited for the Sunday race after Qualy... this is what Matt must feel like always being let down by Ferrari
I'm a year ahead but 2024 has got to be the most entertaining Mexico City GP yet
Honestly, having circuits that have different characteristics is what makes the championship more interesting.
Yepp, but you can keep characteristics while still having decent racing, the issue is slow sections before drs detection zones or overtaking opportunities
Yeah but this track is terrible.
The easiest solution in my eyes is to make Mexico the very first - or the very last track of a season; try to be as close to winter as possible! :) Cooler air is more dense.
Or more polluted 😬 sad but it would improve downforce
Organizers want the race as close as possible to Día de Muertos.
The vibes make this track otherwise it would be a dull one like Monaco or France. Nice video. Keep up the good work.
Monaco has the great, varied scenery to make up for the dullness, though. The roar of the Mexican crowd when the cars drive through that one part of the stadium is neat, but after a few times it ceases to have much effect and all you're left with is a boring circuit.
One of the other reasons why the circuit is so bad is the lack of elevation change. You’d think they would be able to find literally any other part of Mexico City that isn’t completely flat
I think elevation changes are not always necessary though. Look at Silverstone, for example. A flat circuit can be great.
Yeah they should lower the entire city for your pleasure 😂
Mexico City is very flat because most of it was literally a lake that the Aztecs filled with rocks... It's a better idea to try to make a good flat track tbh hahahah
@@Takeiteasy11 You don't understand do you 😂?
@@BankMoviegoer and Monza too
Fundamentally, with all the tracks I've raced on in games, the way to get great racing is to have a few consecutive corners before a straight, where you have to get every single one right and with huge reaction times with numerous things you need to do to perfect the sequence. One single screw up destroys the line for the entire sequence, destroying that perfect exit. So 4 complex chances to screw up the exit onto the straight instead of 1 simple chance. That way, every corner counts instead of being able to screw one up but get away with it because you have time to fix your line before the next corner.
I like your lines cuz' I remembered how Prost broke down McLaren supposed dominance with a good race setup for this track.
As a Senna fan, such a demonstration of being turtle during qualifying helped Alain to be the dark horse there. LOL
Really, more corners then straightaways is clue for big show so no more DRS required.
You've "raced " in games. Yeah so much like the real world! LOL
That's how Turns 7-13 used to be in Mexico City.
Irony in the track with the highest elevation having no elevation changes in the circuit
Yes these changes are spot on. The angle of the esses also seems not quite right. A bit more highspeed would be cool, stadium is on point with a straighter exit and then maybe make the last corner banked like zandvoort. DRS a bit earlier and then you can overtake on the straight.
Actually the original last corner that bypasses the stadium is banked, the infamous Peraltada but was scuffed due to it being too dangerous
There's something about the esses here that is a bit off, but feels soo satisfying to drive in a sim
The straight is over 1km... you can definitely overtake there currently.
@@chrismdb5686 disagree. The esses of Silverstone and Austin feel amazing to drive. In Mexico city they're kinda frustrating.
@@wontonii232 I'll agree to disagree. They always feel awkward but maybe that's why I enjoy nailing them so much.
moving the DRS line for the main straight before the stadium section can also help out imo, the fact that the stadium spreads the cars out prevents the DRS action on the main straight
That is what they need to do in Barcelona. Have the DRS detection line before the chicane.
3:08 My experience at Singapore GP, watching from Bay Grandstand (Turn 17 & Turn 18). Being able to see the cars for longer time does not provide more joy. It gets boring pretty quick. For me at least. I wish I had picked the stand that can view the cars moving at top speed and then a sharp turn.
Honestly the circuit itself isn't that bad, for racing it's definitely better than Paul Ricard and Barcelona.
The altitude is really the biggest problem, even if you change the track it will still have the same problems.
Alonso said on the grid he would be managing the car from lap 2. As soon as a driver gets within 2 seconds of the car in front they have overheating brakes and engine (not just tyres).
I think the FIA should look into tweaking the technical regs for this track to minimise the pain from overheating and maximise the racing. They could mandate that all teams run the maximum amount of cooling possible on their cars, instead of letting them decide. And mandate that all teams maximise drag so that the slipstream is as strong as possible.
If teams are already running the max, then the FIA should look into either having more aggressive cooling/aero just for this race, or think about moving the GP to a lower altitude location.
Turn 5 was the most interesting part of the circuit and the place where there was the most action shown if I can recall but I agree with the rest. Sadly I don’t feel like they will change the layout since they already did when it was introduced. If you look at Abu Dhabi it took them too many years to fixe the track. I still hope they do because even I like the vibe it’s a boring race.
Wtf1's perfect track: a rounded square, with four long DRS zones, and four hard braking zones
Oh i know a track that suit that
@@versev0 baku?
So Indianapolis?
@@TheABelGuitarbut with turns like the lesmos at monza.
Some don’t want to admit it but Mexico is a bottom 5 track in F1. Ever since they went back there haven’t been any iconic moments aside from drivers blowing turn 1 and the start from 2018 and 2021. I really hope there’s a fix somewhere because the atmosphere is incredible.
Bottom 3 imo
My favourite track on the simulator lol
All good points, the worst thing done to this track was destroying the Peraltada.
Without changing any of the grand stands T1 would be closer to 70 degrees with turn T2 being a curve that’ll connect to the 2nd straight. And there would be a DRS detection point somewhere after T1. Turns 4 and 5 would remain the same, but T6 would be a curve like the Vietnamese GP had. T12 would be more acute meaning larger braking zone.
To be honest... only 3 races left. Just swallow this pill for 3 years. That's it.
The reason why Mexico was extended until 2025 is because Checo's contract with Red Bull runs until 2024. I don't really think he'll be staying in F1 for the 2025 season, so that year's race will gauge if Mexico is still a good venue.
And without a Mexican on the grid (Piastri killed any hope for Pato O'Ward getting into F1), I can't see people filling the stands.
Seriously, as a Mexican F1 fan, it's annoying that many "F1 fans" you can find here are only bandwagoners who only want to hear "arguments" favoring Checo, but can't really tell apart the mediums from the inters. Annoying, because when you say something "against" Checo, like pointing out his lack of one-lap pace (which has been his Achiles heel through his career, with bad Saturday performances), they treat you like if you were an ignorant or a hater. Worst if you point out something good about Hamilton or (due to their current runner-up fight) Leclerc.
Once Checo is gone from the grid... they won't stay.
Mexican here! i've said since 2015 that F1 regulations damage the autodromo so unnecessarily. Main topic always has been the lost in peraltada as people blamed Foro Sol stadium construction for that when was the lack of runoff area in the outside of the corner. It's the same thing with Parabolica in Monza, both are an flat 180° right corner with no visibility inside but an open area in Monza's case. Add that twisty section inside the stadium was just a creative idea to use that part for the public.
The main problem I see was the lost of the flow in the 2015 layout. Corners 1-3 and 4-6 were turn into a 90° corners instead of a nicely right-left corners due to the requirements in F1 to have a heavy breaking zone to attemp an overtake. Then the esses section (7-11) were a mix of technical corners from low to high speeds and were transformed into a nonesense medium-low-medium weird mix. The stadium section you can adjust it with a single 90° left corner but will no change so much for F1 cars (the same way Champ Car race in 2002-2005).
If someone review Champ Car Mexico race from 2002-2007 will notice how much flow Hermanos Rodríguez circuit had, even with or without peraltada/Foro sol section was a good track for a single seater car. This year Nascar Mexico and Formula E, as some other local racing series have developed a better racing product that F1 and I would love to see how Indycar cars could make it if they race here.
Never has been a circuit with a lot of overtakes (Mansell is 1 in 20 editions) but at least used to be a proper circuit for racing, maybe F1 cars are so wide for this track to have great battles that don't require the long main straight for overtake.
NASCAR had 4 great races on the old layout.
You know a circuit is bad when it makes Monaco look good.
Monaco is worse than this. Take the rose tinted glasses off.
Glad someone does love Monaco like me… track is so annoying it’s only a challenge to just stay in the race other than that it’s boring
@@Gbiese monaco Atleast has an element of strategy
Or if Formula E does a better race on this track than F1
This race was not worse than the Monaco one tbh.
I think the most important part to why the Mexican GP was bad is because of the altitude. Even with the new cars, they still can’t follow close enough without overheating and having to drop back. I don’t think the layout is much of an issue
I like the idea of getting rid of the existing turn 2 and 3 chicane and creating another DRS zone. it could only help, especially if the radius of turn 1 is tighten to create a great passing zone.
In terms of changes to the current turns 5 and 6, why not change that section into a true hairpin? A hairpin that is similar to the original turn 6 of the circuit. Look it up. It would be a great option for the circuit because there would be a ton of passing opportunities.
When this layout was revealed I mentioned a similar change to the stadium section turns. It would be much better for the race action.
Hey, just a quick note: With the new UA-cam design, thumbnails are shown with rounded edges, which leads to your thumbnails looking a bit odd around the corners, maybe you should have a look at that :)
Keep up the great content!
It’s not really a bad track, but F1 fans need to stop labelling tracks as boring whenever there’s a full race at one. Spa and Silverstone have had dull races in memory too.
The problem with Mexico is the altitude so less effect on slip streaming. But other than that, the circuit has provided some good racing over the years.
Australian F1 track, Albert Park, is 6m above sea level not 700m. It's right next to the beach
They should absolutely simplify the stadium section
The only reason this race wasn't that boring for me was because I was watching my home (American) football team's game in the background
The changes look reasonable. Look at Abu Dhabi, a couple of changes dramatically improved the racing.
We really went from COTA as a top 3 race of the year to Mexico which was a bottom 3 lol
Ya know what. They could go full nascar and use the oval section. Fight me if you disagree
Thank You for covering this - Have been saying it since a while - The circuit has great potential but is poorly designed in terms of overtaking opportunities. Fans don’t just watch for the cars to go by - many of the corners are so tight that it’s literally impossible to overtake and a bit of changes to the corners to make them better (wider) will make it easier for overtaking opportunities to take place
Yeah, their formula e race seemed to suffer from the same diseases.
This is not the original design… the 80s one was the best
I disagree that it was the worst race this season. The top three teams had no real battles, but remember there's 7 other teams. The midfield teams were consistently battling, not to mention Danny Ric's charge, which was incredible.
And about the grandstand section separating the cars, making it faster would be far worse considering the length of the main straight.
Me and my uncle were astonished at how good the racing was. We were surprised to see many people felt the opposite tho😂
Wait for Brazil, chaotic every Race 😁
First time seeing a Mexico City GP and I totally agree!
I love the fact there is a stadium, but god it was painfully boring to see the cars go so slow in there.
Remember what happened at Imola in '94 at corner Tamburello? Of course we don't need that first chicane removed. Plus it gives great potential for switch-back moves.
The previous layout of that corner, used until 2014, was a better layout. Same with the Lake Esses.
What is sad is that some of the suggestions made here about the layout were what the circuit was like before the current layout. The first turn originally was a right hand sweeper, the esses flowed more and had grass or gravel run off and of course the final turn was awesome. Too bad it was changed…😢
Problem #1. The first DRS zone doesn't generate enough overtaking. This is because turn one isn't tight enough.
Problem #2. The second DRS zone doesn't generate enough overtaking. This is because the straight isn't long enough. given the slow exit speed from turn three.
Solution:
I'd shorten the pit straight by introducing a tighter right-left chicane like what we have at Monza. That creates a proper overtaking opportunity into the first turn. I'd then convert the existing turn one-two-three complex into a flat-out double-apex right-hander leading into the DRS zone. This will give the chasing car more momentum going into the DRS zone and with a better run into the braking zone for better overtaking opportunity.
I don't know what you're talking about, it was a perfectly good race. No safety cars? No big wrecks? No Scandal? If you need those things to enjoy a motorsport, please just watch NASCAR. The altitude challenges the engineers, and gives teams with different design philosophies an opportunity to stand out. The variety in the environment is a good thing. The tire strategy was intriguing, the limited testing and practice time spiced things up, and results were determined by driver skill and team strategy. Mercedes pulled a Ferrari this week, because they were genuinely on pace to take a win, or at least challenge for the win, and they screwed the pooch on strategy - but I still enjoyed the race, and Kudos to Max for making those softs last. That was amazing.
It's a Tilkedrome with copy and pasted aspects from the other circuits not taking into account they don't work at 2240m above sea level. Give us more elevation changes!
Not every race has to be a banger and not everything has to be entertainment. The main thing a circuit needs is character and I do think Mexico (even the layout) counts as a circuit with a lot of character and with it's own unique challenge. With the idea proposed in this video, every track will be about the same
Nah, the Mexican layout is really boring. The only interesting part are the esses, the rest is just sharp corners thst make the tyres overheat, especially if you are following
high top speeds, lack of air resistance = less effect for DRS and slip stream. The straights appear shorter too when you go down them at 345kph instead of 310.
The altitude is the biggest plus in my book
I totally agree with everything you said, but those changes to produce a better layout circuit would mean a lot of budget to spend and that will not happen, the people completely full out the circuit as it is, most of them do not even go for the race, but for the party croud experience, the ones who go to the circuit and us the ones who watch it from tv deserve a better circuit to enjoy a decent race.
The track needs a little fix right now... Hopefully the next year. The atmosphere its amazing. Glads for everyones in the channel from Mérida Yucatán México 🏎️🌟✨🇲🇽
Make one big hairpin after DRS Straight 2, before going in to the esses
Am I the only one who thought the race was not that bad? The entire thing was like a race strat chess game for me. Seeing all the strategies getting played out was quite interesting
Yeah but you have a very rare thing these days.. an attention span. Most people can't stay off of their phones for five seconds so an F1 race has to be "over the top" and have crazy action on track to draw their interest away from doom scrolling on their phone or tweeting about how boring the race is. I agree it wasn't that bad, and it was interesting, but for someone with an attention span of a goldfish it will seem boring.
@@bwxmoto After seeing so many "fast contending car with failed race strat" races, I definitely knew to enjoy the race better. There were point where I caught myself calculating pit window and saying "holy shit, daniel is still on soft??"
@@poppygin4807 Yeah it’s definitely a strategy game and that can be entertaining and interesting if you know what’s going on! I also remember very clearly when there were no F1 races for ling stretches of time, and a so-called boring F1 race is so much better than no F1 race. That mariachi band played the F1 theme music was worth the entire watch to me anyways.
It's more the fact that it got quite stale in the first 6 positions. Only those laps with Checo chasing Lewis were remotely interesting. All tyre compounds lasting forever didn't help either.
@@soundscape26 Yea, I can see why people find it boring. I just have came to grip with over-analyzing race strat can bring a bit of enjoyment.
I would argue that the fact all compounds lasted forever really emphasized on grip level strategies. Top 6 really got stale because of their strat/risk evaluation: RB always balls to the walls with race strat, Merc is super conservative for no reason, and Ferrari smooth brain strat.
All changes that should definitely happen. I feel like tracks care too much about having a bunch of hard turns and not enough about making it easy to pass.
I'd get rid of the baseball stadium section altogether and restore the full final corner (complete with banking) which in the old days was one of the greatest corners in F1.
Looking at a satellite view of the Mexican GP circuit I think a lot of the problems is the position of the track. By the looks of it it is in a deeply densely packed area with residential and sporting facilities packed in. It is same with the stadium section, there is a 180 degree corner last corner but if you use that you wouldn't have anywhere to spectate. This is just an observation, and I haven't been to a F1 race so I could be totally wrong, but the new tracks just don't have the room around the track to spread the spectators. You look at all the old tracks, or at least most of them, and you can spectate almost anywhere around them. It is because of that that they can modify them to improve safety and just the all around spectacle. Silverstone is a prime example. If you take turns 1-3 for example if you do as Matt said and make it a faster Turn 1 and eliminate Turn 2 and 3 you would have no runoff at Turn 1 as it looks like there are sporting facilities on the outside. As for the altitude, well there is nothing you can do about that. You can't just drop the circuit by a thousand feet. You just have to deal with it.
First, I was going to bring back Peraltada turn, destroying the stadium and using the free space to get the track away from the wall and have a big enough escape area. The rest is very similar to what is in the video.
The Mexico City GP is usually a good race. It wasn't to be, because the cars qualified in the order of race pace, not because of the circuit.
I think if this track was at a lower altitude it would be a lot better… It’s like if you don’t have a huge pace advantage it’s very difficult to get near another car… I mean Checo on mediums couldn’t get near Lewis on the Hards.. it’s like as soon as he got to 1.3 seconds of Lewis he like hit a wall.. and yeah you can say Lewis is better because he is but there should of been enough in that Red Bull to at least take some DRS dives on him …Danny Ric on Softs was able to get by all those drivers on Hards because it was a 1.2 second difference in compounds…
Tighten up the right hander into the stadium section too. It'll become a hard braking & overtaking zone if a driver makes a mistake through the esses.
I personally think the issue with Mexico is the double DRS zones on the first couple straights that share the same detection point at turn 15 - plenty of overtakes happened, but drivers were breaking the 1 second barrier so easily because they had DRS on one of the longest straights of the calendar, and then another use after turn 1. I do however like the idea of these changes too because the cars look so sluggish around half the track.
Can’t ever call a race the “worst of the season” with Monaco on the calendar. Lmao
Btw for all the "we need Kyalami" screamers out there - that track is also 1,500+ meters above sea level and has at most one overtaking spot and lots and lots of wiggly parade for this sort of car...
I just wont get why some british people are so biased against latin america. You always read the most stupid and illogical comments against Checo’s performances and a lot of praises towards Russel even though Checo has been miles ahead of him this season. Now they only talk shit about this circuit because ir is in Mexico and Max has always destroyed Lewis in here.
Absolutely agree with the author! Especially about corners 2 and 3. And a gravel trap, of course :)
Make the end of the 2nd DRS straight in to one big hairpin, leave a run off area for safety before it rejoins in to the fast corners.
The stadium section? Not sure what they do here, the formula E configuration has it go back out where the cars enter so it uses the old school final corner, but its so narrow so FIA would probably deem it unsafe for F1 cars
with the 2024 event being one of the more eventful and exciting GPs we've had, maybe it isn't so bad after all...
Your first points invalidate your latter suggestions. If there is less downforce due to air density, then faster corners would most certainly mean higher chances of high-speed accidents at the corners, as has happened before in tracks that have added more chicanes. I get it on the spectacle side of it, but on the safety side it would be doubtful.
Move the DRS detection to before the stadium section as many people lost the 1 second gap for main straight
What i would do:
Keep turn 1 as it is but remove the 2/3 chicane
Turn 4/5 chicane to Budapest 6/7 style chicane
Make turn 7 corner more gentle, turn 8 longer and adjust turn 9 to that and remove 10 completely.
The stadium section as shown on this video
I think the stadium section should exist as is as a joker lap, youd have to go through the stadium section once ever 5 laps but normally the cars use the bypass on the oval circuit
This circuit was one of the best until they destroyed it when they built the stadium inside it, Peraltada was removed and the second sector completely ruined, it was so good back in the days what a shame.
One thing that would help too, is having softer tyres, either the softest in Pirelli’s range or Mexico specific which are one step softer. Being able to do so many ,laps on the sorts, while still sliding around due to lack of grip meant the strategy from the teams just didn’t work. The cars do not have the downforce (either over the body or via the venturi tunnels) for the mid range tyres to actually wear down as quickly as you’d normally get with the larger wings. Maybe Pirelli will learn for next year?
Struggling to think of another race this year where you could one stop soft-medium. Definitely think one step softer for future
That's me!!! On minute 3:29 holding schumi and senna 🤣🤣🤣
Last few corners should be a full hairpin made nice and wide, then a sweeping right all the way through to the start line, like Zandvoort but less bank
Hey WTF as a fan whose been following Formula one for 3years now I would be happy if you made some videos on the following:
1. Implications of the ABA between FIA and Red bull,I saw the fine and 10% reduction in tunnel time,,however what does that mean on the ground to a lay man?
2. The safety car,so at the beginning of every race we see it at the back and after lap one it just disappear,I know it's nothing big to know but I would like to have an understanding of why it's at the back at the beginning and where it does go after Lap 1.
3.Why has the FIA been so inconsistent in their decisions this year ,or not timely in making them,you can see that in the recent gasly over take and Fernando in COTA.WHERE IS THE VAR FOR F1?
I drove the original circuit in grand prix legends. That was an excellent layout in my opinion. The CART layout had a stadium section that wasn't as fiddly and a more flowing 1st chicane. I like the A1 grand prix layout, while it has a very tight chicane and no stadium section, it has the full banked peraltada turn. Though you wouldn't get that spectacular round the outside overtake by Mansell in the ferrari on berger in the McLaren because of the chicane before it, you do get more of a chance to get a good exit and attack into the more flowing 1st chicane and the esses are more challenging and ever increasing in speed from the entrance to the exit onto the back straight.
Literally was thinking about changing the Stadium section throughout the entire race. Totally agree!
What I would change is to race at Portimão instead, much better circuit
I agree with your proposal but differ in one thing I would change the stadium section so that cars can make a u turn inside the stadium section and make the cars take the whole peraltada curv like in the past but safer since they can not take it in top speed. Peraltada is the soul of this track!!. Just as a comment the issue also comes with wider cars and the width of the track was reduce in the curvs and "S" sections in this new era so in the past the reaces in this circuit were not like today.
Great video!
I wonder if the stadium section is slow partly to reduce the risk of bad crashes at the final corner. Given we've seen a few there as it is, they'd probably be more common and worse if cars had faster pace exiting the stadium. If it were possible to have the pit entry later and have a less tight final corner (and more space on the outside) then cars could go faster through the stadium section without risking worse crashes at the final corner. This would allow a more flowing line through the stadium. This section really could be great if they had wide corners that enabled 2 cars to follow different lines to set up a pass down the straight. Even if cars spend less time there, it would be much better viewing if it was anything other than cars just following single-file.
Goddamn this may be the earliest I’ve ever been for an upload
You are asking for almost the original layout……the Foro Sol (Amphiteatre) . There was a Banked Curve. In the 90s when the F1 races left Mexico, the Foro appeared as a way to give purpose to the circuit. The Original Circuit was faster, but the banking curve was dangerous. AS Mexican I like a layout, that enjoys the drivers and the audience. And apologies,for the booing, and the bad behavior of the people at the paddock, not giving personal space to drivers.
The atmosphere is the absolute best in the calendar. The crowds, the podium, the F1esta. But I agree that the track is so booooooring. Not as many overtakings and risky moves as in other tracks. I hope they can make some adjustments to the track soon.
I feel like fixing the tracks might be overlooking another problem - how big the cars are. I think we need to consider shrinking the length and width of the cars, so that closer racing is possible. It feels like some tracks aren't equipped to let cars race side by side - if they can't do that, we might as well run a staggered start race, where the goal is to catch the car in front, eliminating them.
Agreed. These cars makes the Mexico track look like a go-kart circuit.
Well ... that removal of the corner in the stadium ... is a bad idea.
Puts them at way too much speed when the arrive at the next right corner under the stands there, not enough run off or protection room.
Terrible is not the right word . Every track is different and competitive. That's what makes the races interesting and that's how the champion comes out.
Yes, I agree with you.
With the drawing of the track and the oval thingy it now occurs to me how similar Monza and Mexico really look
Biggest improvement would be, if you would make the last corner (after the Stadium section) a sharp turn instead of this medium speed corner. Then cars with better tires could get a greater difference at exit grip and so exit speed
The stadium section is only needed smoother exit for long straight
I agree with most of your points here. The circuit definitely needs these kinda changes if it's to help produce better races.
The turn 2,3 take is so bad. Allows for switchbacks and smart racing. Turn 4 and 5 are great. Allows for dive bombs into turn 4 and cars to swing it around the outside into turn 5. Last sector needs changing. Also as a Danny Ric stan, crazy to here you call this the worst race of the season. Was probably one of my favourites
If you would change the theather to let cars be closer, then have long low drag straight, and then have hard breaking at first corner, it start to hear like automatic overtake without much of resistance.
The circuit layout was much better before Herman Tilke reconfigured it for F1’s return. The main focus seemed to be reducing the radius of most corners, thus reducing cornering speed. It was done intentionally, and I doubt they will do anything about it.
in reality I agree BUT as a gamer I LOVE driving this track and may even be my favourite 😅😛
It was an utterly rubbish race last Sunday - was there any on-track overtaking for the top 6? It's a track that suffers from the classic "it's all over after lap 1" syndrome that can still sadly plague some F1 circuits today. I still think Monaco is the worst F1 track for spectators - if it doesn't rain, then there's very little on-track overtaking there.
Agree with turn 1... put 4-6 back to their 1980s version, keep 7-12, replace 13 and 14 with a single 90 left. Open out the penultimate corner slightly (less angle, pull to inside) to make one long 180 acceleration zone.
Honestly apart for the stadium section these changes are kinda crap...
I would keep turns 1-3 but open the apex of 2 & 3 (or make the cars smaller). Then I'd make T4 a tight right hander that skips T5 & 6 altogether.
Absolutely agreed, Mexico's GP layout need to be fixed. Remove turn 2 and 3, remove turn 5 to connect smoothly from turn 4 to 6... remove turn 10, to connect 9 to 11, and remove 13 and 14 for a better racing experience.
But track should be tough for car aerodynamics. If you remove the chicanes, fast part, slow part in the last sector. You basically have Nascar track. Of course i want to see exciting races, but some of them strategic race. I enjoy to look timing data aswell.
These cars looked especially clumsy through that stadium section, it was like trying to pick your way through a busy parking lot