Sex, Murder, & Swinging: Couple Plots to Get Away With Murder

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  • @Bess9779
    @Bess9779 7 місяців тому +444

    It appears while reading their Bibles, they skipped over the no murder & no adultery part.

    • @Beatenthusiast20
      @Beatenthusiast20 7 місяців тому +16

      And the fact that David was forced to repent for his sins to regain Gods favor and because of his misdeeds he missed out on building the temple which was later built by his son Solomon.

    • @harleyadams4551
      @harleyadams4551 7 місяців тому +36

      Hypocrisy and religion do go hand in hand.

    • @gwengwen4535
      @gwengwen4535 7 місяців тому +17

      @@harleyadams4551That’s because religion is ego driven and not biblical. The church is actually the collective that believes in the gospel and walks in the newness of life that belief gives us. Religion conflates and confuses the simplicity of the perfection that the Bible and our Creator are.

    • @harleyadams4551
      @harleyadams4551 7 місяців тому +2

      @@gwengwen4535
      What would Jesus do? Not that I would do the same, just what would Jesus do?

    • @gwengwen4535
      @gwengwen4535 7 місяців тому +5

      @@harleyadams4551 What would Jesus do about what? Swinging? Not sure of your question.

  • @Marellenmac1964
    @Marellenmac1964 7 місяців тому +191

    I think "Just get a divorce" should be added to the merch!😂

  • @amywc5309
    @amywc5309 7 місяців тому +668

    The more of these stories I hear, the more grateful I am to lead a rather "dull, normal life."

    • @carolbelyeu8748
      @carolbelyeu8748 7 місяців тому +11

      Right?! Geez!

    • @Cyber_Sleuth_Steph
      @Cyber_Sleuth_Steph 7 місяців тому +22

      Same! Who has the energy for all this lol

    • @flowerjpotter1629
      @flowerjpotter1629 7 місяців тому +17

      Indeed.
      I love my peace and quiet don't want any dramas no thank you !

    • @Williamb612
      @Williamb612 7 місяців тому +18

      Was married for 5 years and we almost killed each other once the infatuation was over.
      Have been happily single for 10 years now…fire, dog and cat, great books and films, friends, however when I want to be fully alone and in peace, the door closes and I can disappear into myself and whatever I might be interested in.

    • @monico1283
      @monico1283 7 місяців тому +11

      ​@@Williamb612same exact story here! Married for 5, been single for 10, & haven't missed being married for 1 minute!
      It's hard for non single people to believe that I'm not lonely, but I genuinely never feel lonely. Imo, the ONLY thing that sucks about being single is paying bills with 1 income 😅

  • @myravenmoon81
    @myravenmoon81 7 місяців тому +624

    My husband proposed an open marriage....I proposed divorce. Life's to short to play those games

    • @rebeccasmith514
      @rebeccasmith514 7 місяців тому +22

      I’m sorry that must have been hard. ❤

    • @myravenmoon81
      @myravenmoon81 7 місяців тому +42

      No not really. He's still trying to fight to keep a marriage together. I asked him what he was getting his girlfriend for valentines day. It's been broken for a long time. And honestly thank you because writing this just reaffirmed my feelings

    • @myravenmoon81
      @myravenmoon81 7 місяців тому +5

      Thanks for that

    • @redlibrarian4216
      @redlibrarian4216 7 місяців тому +3

      Smart

    • @myravenmoon81
      @myravenmoon81 7 місяців тому +4

      @djk7439 thank you. Yesterday sucked, today I'm stronger.

  • @haleytruslow7200
    @haleytruslow7200 7 місяців тому +1156

    Opening up your marriage to “fix” marital problems ends badly the vast majority of the time.

    • @WV_Mudpuppy
      @WV_Mudpuppy 7 місяців тому +99

      I'll never understand the reasoning behind that..."oh were having martial problems and falling out of love, let's bring in random people to have sex with...that'll bring us closer" like whaaaat?

    • @senorgringopapi2059
      @senorgringopapi2059 7 місяців тому +11

      Of course it does

    • @Avaflavez
      @Avaflavez 7 місяців тому +73

      When getting married did they not realise that that is it , for life.. I don't get poly relationships or open marriages. Just stay single if you need multiple partners

    • @sunnyadams5842
      @sunnyadams5842 7 місяців тому +14

      ​@@AvaflavezAMEN!!

    • @LaForge97
      @LaForge97 7 місяців тому +19

      Opening a marriage only works if you have a great strong marriage and never to fix a broken one. Not sure how a couple thinks adding something that takes trust most don’t have will fix a failing relationship.

  • @kertubell6030
    @kertubell6030 7 місяців тому +127

    out of everything, hearing that sabrina thought rob would “rather be dead than divorced” made my jaw drop

    • @bunnylacy2097
      @bunnylacy2097 7 місяців тому +6

      Seriously! Like what? That’s just a sh!t excuse for murdering him.

    • @iveliserojas612
      @iveliserojas612 7 місяців тому +1

      Facts he handsome and he rather die she a joke

    • @iveliserojas612
      @iveliserojas612 7 місяців тому

      I think she wanted rob died for awhile she was looking for some dum dude like this dude to fall for her because why not divorce him money

    • @commonsense2680
      @commonsense2680 4 місяці тому

      Shows what a total narcissist she is, she thinks np one would want to divorce her?

  • @okie-kan9240
    @okie-kan9240 7 місяців тому +299

    If a person lacks total commitment, staying single is the best option. Dragging other people into your sex life, does not fix anything.

    • @ernestfry6034
      @ernestfry6034 7 місяців тому +4

      And yet, that's what the world does... everyone check out my first comment. Bad decisions is what most people are guilty of

    • @Me-sj9tq
      @Me-sj9tq 6 місяців тому +1

      Agree and stay single...

    • @RealPackCat
      @RealPackCat 5 місяців тому

      Marriages are overrated and you are captured into a lifestyle you cannot escape. If you don't want heart ache, then don't get married.

  • @the4thhorseman840
    @the4thhorseman840 5 місяців тому +49

    A young man with no kids threw his life away for a older married woman with children. She must've really put it on him.

    • @TheNinnyfee
      @TheNinnyfee 3 місяці тому +7

      As an adult it was his choice as well. He wasn't unconscious.

  • @Jenny_thebeaglemom
    @Jenny_thebeaglemom 7 місяців тому +1025

    Opening up a marriage to solve problems is the new “let’s just have another baby” to solve problems😅

    • @nursekillm
      @nursekillm 7 місяців тому +27

      For real! It seems really common nowadays, unfortunately.

    • @waltzthroughlife
      @waltzthroughlife 7 місяців тому +28

      i prefer this to the 'lets just have a kid' option. dont saddle a kid with your bs issues, yanno? 😬

    • @DaniElleLuminati
      @DaniElleLuminati 7 місяців тому +14

      Yep. I was that baby that was supposed to fix everything for my parents. 🙋🏼‍♀️ Didn't work. Thank God they divorced when I was only 6 and I didn't have to spend 16 years with them together like my older sister did!

    • @Jenny_thebeaglemom
      @Jenny_thebeaglemom 7 місяців тому +9

      @@waltzthroughlife 100% better than dragging a poor child into it!

    • @Mo0may
      @Mo0may 7 місяців тому +5

      Right!? 😂 none of it ends well.

  • @janetmoquin7828
    @janetmoquin7828 7 місяців тому +42

    Let me get this straight, A divorce would make you look bad. So you thought committing murder would make you look better? Sabrina and Jonathan deserve each other.

  • @randikearns6782
    @randikearns6782 7 місяців тому +997

    I like the new slogan... "Just get a divorce!"

    • @annieelise
      @annieelise  7 місяців тому +184

      Literally, words I live by. Except in my own marriage lol.

    • @junifreng
      @junifreng 7 місяців тому +13

      Jesus wouldn't approve

    • @ashleycarroll3264
      @ashleycarroll3264 7 місяців тому +70

      ​@@junifrengI think the comment meant, "Just get a divorce" BC its better than killing somebody..Not just get a divorce over work on your marriage..😒 dumb comment..stop making Christians look bad..you don't speak for us or for Jesus for that matter..

    • @KitKatB83
      @KitKatB83 7 місяців тому +6

      Exactly! 😂

    • @KitKatB83
      @KitKatB83 7 місяців тому +34

      ​@junifreng Jesus understands when the other person refuses to change abusive ways. It's more WRONG to judge others for divorce. If you've never been faced with it, be glad!

  • @maneckineckbeard1749
    @maneckineckbeard1749 7 місяців тому +162

    Awww, how considerate of Sabrina to decide on behalf of her husband that he'd prefer death to a divorce, without even bothering to ask him. What a stand-up wife, to be so attuned to what her husband would want. 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

    • @loriematthews6418
      @loriematthews6418 7 місяців тому +3

      I'm just now getting to this video from Annie...but, I remember reading all about this case after it happened. I thought...what a disgusting human being this woman is!

    • @dkaob8351
      @dkaob8351 6 місяців тому +1

      Divorce would have branded her as rejected. But if some guy wanted her bad enough to kill her husband to have her- now that is a stroke to the ego. It was all about her narcissism. She needed others to see her as desirable, not thrown away.

    • @deeplorable8988
      @deeplorable8988 5 місяців тому

      Sabrina was an evil B

  • @JustMe-px9qy
    @JustMe-px9qy 7 місяців тому +204

    Rob is dead and Sabrina is in prison…I feel sorry for their 2 kids.

    • @lisafowler6278
      @lisafowler6278 7 місяців тому +15

      Right?! In all the cases we’re seeing where someone kills their spouse, for whatever reason, I never understand how people think they’re going to just get away with killing someone and will live happily ever after.

    • @Valeria-mq3qn
      @Valeria-mq3qn 7 місяців тому +14

      As it happens time and time and time again. Regardless, it never fails to blow my mind. It often revolves around life insurance money, which to me is not NEARLY enough to be worth the stress, paranoia and *hopefully* guilt that youll feel, along with the trauma, loss, pain and anguish that the kids will have to endure for the rest of their lives. It’s dumb AF when people turn to that rather than a divorce for some money, but ESPECIALLY when it’s in order to obtain sole custody of the children! 😑😑😑
      If they TRULY love their kids, they wouldn’t cheat and/or plot to kill their child’s other parent! If you loved them, you’d think about what kind of trauma it would cause them to lose that parent. If you loved them, you would understand that if you were successful with that plan, you are also at risk. Your children could potentially not only have one dead parent, but also have to deal with the fact that one parent MURDERED their other parent and is now in prison and is no longer present in their lives.
      It makes no damn sense. People are so ugly.
      I’ve noticed that selfishness and greed can be incredibly powerful for alot of people.
      So sad.

    • @heezypeasy8611
      @heezypeasy8611 7 місяців тому +5

      Me too. It's really sad that it happens all the time. Ppl are so selfish that instead of getting a divorce, they'd rather murder their partner (or have them murdered) leaving their children with no parents. I'll never understand it.

    • @shethingsd
      @shethingsd 7 місяців тому +7

      These people never consider their children when they behave in all of these ways.

    • @bunnylacy2097
      @bunnylacy2097 7 місяців тому +1

      Me too! I really hope they ended up with a good family who loves them very much.

  • @lisamcfarland5751
    @lisamcfarland5751 7 місяців тому +78

    She thought Rob would rather be dead than divorced?!?! I bet Rob would've begged to differ with that had he been given the chance to.

    • @redlibrarian4216
      @redlibrarian4216 7 місяців тому +3

      💯

    • @throwitatthewall6289
      @throwitatthewall6289 6 місяців тому +1

      Dude, that is what HE said. He could have been lying

    • @carlynicole5048
      @carlynicole5048 Місяць тому

      ​@@throwitatthewall6289right! Idk why everyone is acting like we can trust what he says. The man killed a dog and a person. Not exactly trustworthy

  • @TheKatarinaGiselle
    @TheKatarinaGiselle 7 місяців тому +362

    I've never heard of a single "open relationship" that didn't end horribly. Marraige is meant to be between two people and "opening up" your marraige is never a solution to any problem! Another great video Annie!

    • @michelledrew4688
      @michelledrew4688 7 місяців тому +13

      What circles do you mix with then.
      If you've never known a single one that hasn't ended horribly???
      Because I've got to the grand old age of 55 and never known any swingers at all!!!!😂😂😂😂😂

    • @danidan9917
      @danidan9917 7 місяців тому +16

      So not true. All the swingers I know have thee best relationships going. Some are 20+ yrs in the lifestyle and lovin it.

    • @TheKatarinaGiselle
      @TheKatarinaGiselle 7 місяців тому

      @@michelledrew4688 I don't have any circle PERIOD 😂 every minute is spent with my family. But people love to talk. I hear enough through the internet and phone calls.

    • @EarthenEternal
      @EarthenEternal 7 місяців тому +5

      Jelly roll and Bunni 😂 they have an agreement and the most wholesome, loving, accepting, and supportive relationship ive ever seen.

    • @TheKatarinaGiselle
      @TheKatarinaGiselle 7 місяців тому +10

      @@EarthenEternal so you go by ppl you see on the internet? 😂 You probably still trust major media too.

  • @franciehartsog1347
    @franciehartsog1347 7 місяців тому +63

    I practiced as a marriage counselor for 25 years and open marriages are never a good idea. You can spice up your marriage in many ways but don’t invite a third person into your home. It never ends well. 😢

    • @lizzieisdead
      @lizzieisdead 3 місяці тому +3

      can attest to this, unfortunately

    • @JohnSmith-tz8jj
      @JohnSmith-tz8jj 3 місяці тому +1

      thanks 'counselor' for victim blaming!

    • @missjustice2730
      @missjustice2730 2 місяці тому

      That's why poly or ENM therapists have a long wait list.

    • @joe19912
      @joe19912 2 місяці тому +1

      I learned enough lessons just with roomates, can't imagine sex being in the equation.

    • @christinas2035
      @christinas2035 2 місяці тому

      Omg, he poisoned the dog? Heartless bastard.

  • @virginiagirl6628
    @virginiagirl6628 7 місяців тому +74

    He killed the neighbor’s dog? These are some sick people. Just get a darn divorce for goodness sake!

    • @rosanna5515
      @rosanna5515 5 місяців тому +2

      For killing the neighbour's dog, I would have imposed the death penalty. And, I don't support the death penalty. In cases of abuse of innocence--children and animals: it's hard to uphold that view.

  • @waygirlyworkouts4149
    @waygirlyworkouts4149 7 місяців тому +60

    I knew her from costco, and about a week or so before his murder. She was going on and on about how much she loved her husband and how great he was, To the point that my mom and I left the store thinking that was a little odd, After it came out that she was involved, I knew that she was over selling her perfect life as a sort of alibi.

    • @rebeccacampbell585
      @rebeccacampbell585 7 місяців тому +4

      Do you think any of this is because of those years where her husband cheated on her and ignored her and didn't help her with drinking and all the things she was doing to cope?

    • @waygirlyworkouts4149
      @waygirlyworkouts4149 7 місяців тому +5

      @rebeccacampbell585 I'm sure it played a huge part. However, for her to say Rob would rater be dead then divorced makes me think think this was all her idea. He may have been a bad husband, but he didn't deserve to die. And remember, just days before he was murdered. She was telling me in my mom how amazing her husband was. So which is it? Was he a terrible husband or was he an amazing husband cause her story seems to change to face her narrative.

    • @MaryElizabethAbrahamian-ui8uu
      @MaryElizabethAbrahamian-ui8uu 6 місяців тому +2

      Wow

  • @shb8212
    @shb8212 7 місяців тому +1604

    Once you "open" your marriage, you no longer have a marriage. Honestly some people are so open minded their brain falls out.

    • @junederksen9205
      @junederksen9205 7 місяців тому +83

      100%!!!

    • @michele1083
      @michele1083 7 місяців тому +123

      Exactly. For some reason our society thinks if you're honest about something it doesn't make it wrong. I guess the kids can't have trauma from knowing their dad let's their mom have sex with strange men because they talked about it honestly. 😂 It's literal Insanity.

    • @danidan9917
      @danidan9917 7 місяців тому +126

      Oh stop. Each to their own. There's bad examples in all marriages. Look at the super religious ones for example.

    • @shb8212
      @shb8212 7 місяців тому +67

      @danidan9917 actually, statistically speaking, Christian couples are more happily married and have better sex than secular couples. ... when they control for culturally Christian couples versus actively practicing Christian couples, the difference is even greater.

    • @danidan9917
      @danidan9917 7 місяців тому

      @@shb8212 I'd literally love to read the stats on that? Do you have a link?

  • @Rachel_Dee
    @Rachel_Dee 7 місяців тому +12

    It completely baffles me that someone would rather murder their spouse than to get a divorce. She was afraid a divorce would ruin her image? As if a murder trial wouldn't?

  • @Relli80
    @Relli80 7 місяців тому +259

    45:24 he poisoned his neighbors dog?!?!?! That’s beyond cruel.

    • @astridjuney77
      @astridjuney77 7 місяців тому +32

      Yeah I wish we knew what happened, if the dog was OK or not and if the neighbors found out or pressed charges. I was Team Jonathan until I heard this part. My jaw dropped.

    • @ystruziatto
      @ystruziatto 7 місяців тому +18

      Yeah, not to sound insensitive to the human victim but I would like to know if the dog was able to survive the poisoning and whatever the outcome for the dog, he should be charged with animal cruelty. Not to add to his sentence but to enforce a message among the community.

    • @jessicataylor1091
      @jessicataylor1091 7 місяців тому +6

      i was looking for this comment cus whaaaaat

    • @amabla975
      @amabla975 7 місяців тому +3

      @@astridjuney77 my jaw actually dropped too!

    • @chicago_race_engines7538
      @chicago_race_engines7538 7 місяців тому +4

      @@ystruziattolol I agree f the human you poison a dog? Wtf did he do to anyone!!

  • @Jesusandcoffee3382
    @Jesusandcoffee3382 7 місяців тому +14

    You put this up 7 hours ago and already have had 70,000+ views! Way to go Annie!

  • @barosalearninglab
    @barosalearninglab 7 місяців тому +176

    Open marriages often work best in movies. 😂 I especially love the fact that he was the one who initiated it. If your marriages is in shambles inviting other people into your mess is not the answer.

    • @belleboheme616
      @belleboheme616 7 місяців тому +9

      Facts!

    • @ItsTifahTifah
      @ItsTifahTifah 7 місяців тому +6

      I couldn't have said it better myself

    • @missiris1234
      @missiris1234 7 місяців тому +15

      Open marriage is code for something is missing from the marriage

    • @tlwest21
      @tlwest21 7 місяців тому +1

      Have you done it and if not dont speak on it. Thanks 😊

    • @lindaartz3297
      @lindaartz3297 7 місяців тому +21

      @@tlwest21
      Do you know of any case where this has fixed a marriage? I haven’t tried jumping off a cliff but I can look at the cliff and know it is a bad idea😊

  • @jilliansergy7597
    @jilliansergy7597 7 місяців тому +15

    I think it definitely takes two. Every time you cover a case I've already seen on Dateline I'm reminded why I like your channel. You make it way more interesting than watching it on TV...thank you.

    • @Oldschoolnana
      @Oldschoolnana 7 місяців тому +2

      She really does. She could be on Dateline or any other of those true crime shows. She's top notch.❤ ❤

  • @Prettyfeather
    @Prettyfeather 7 місяців тому +46

    How is cheating against your religion but murder isn't? 😒

    • @marvinbienaime2012
      @marvinbienaime2012 3 місяці тому +1

      It’s called selective religious beliefs! The delusion is beyond me

    • @chefstravels8429
      @chefstravels8429 3 місяці тому +1

      All a bit mixed up if you ask me.

  • @agentbagreviews
    @agentbagreviews 7 місяців тому +87

    Why do people feel like divorce is so horrible?! I’m perplexed.

    • @sue7734
      @sue7734 7 місяців тому +3

      My opinion is people like Sabrina like the attention being a widow, much less a widow of a murder victim would give her. Not to mention she'd then get all the marital assets and any life insurance they're may have been.

    • @kat7047
      @kat7047 7 місяців тому +1

      Maybe it’s acceptable in your family but in some families it’s still a very negative and looked down upon thing.

    • @Rae777
      @Rae777 7 місяців тому +8

      @@kat7047yeah but you’d think murder would be worse though

    • @agentbagreviews
      @agentbagreviews 7 місяців тому +4

      @@Rae777 agree with you and she wanted to end the life of a man that her children still loved and adored, so sad! At least with a divorce they would have a father who was still alive!

    • @JC111WPB
      @JC111WPB 7 місяців тому +4

      Insurance money always helps you think that divorce is bad.

  • @evalunloca
    @evalunloca 7 місяців тому +31

    Yay !! I get to listen to Annie while i do all my plant chores. Happy Thursday my fellow 10-lifers

  • @heezypeasy8611
    @heezypeasy8611 7 місяців тому +7

    No matter how many times I've seen this case covered, i will never pass up the opportunity to hear your thoughts and opinions! ♡ The prosecutor made a good point. When Sabrina was texting all the lovey-dovey crap to Jonathan and talking about how she happy she was, that's weird. I feel that if you truly didn't know who had brutally murdered your husband, wouldn't you be anxious, uneasy, scared, and worried they could possibly come after you and your children as well? I've never believed that Sabrina wasn't involved.

    • @SharonKraft
      @SharonKraft 11 днів тому

      Don't kill your spouse. I have never heard of someone getting away with it. I have seen where they get away with it but then they do it again. It was all about getting money from life insurance. I have even seen where they kill their own child for life insurance. How sick are they.

  • @marumaruu3115
    @marumaruu3115 7 місяців тому +28

    The young guy, as described by you at first, looked like an inexperienced good natured young man who only longed for love. However, once the story developed, I can see he's not as innocent or even changed because of a manipulative woman. No; he planned a long time. He had time enough to revise his intentions and decide against this murder. if he "tested" a murder method in a dog, that shows clearly that the disregards completey other beings' pain or other peoples' feelings. That's a textbook psychopath. And I dare say, much more dangerous than the woman. Now I don't have to wonder why at 22, he still hadn't been accepted by any girl his age.

    • @atticusandwinifred3274
      @atticusandwinifred3274 7 місяців тому +3

      His tearless sobs as he apologized….and It actually did seem like the woman was not the brightest. Not that she shouldn’t have consequences but the guy only ratted her out because he was jealous.

  • @heidifluteatl
    @heidifluteatl 7 місяців тому +32

    An open marriage is an oxymoron to me. If you have other people involved in your marriage then it's no longer a marriage is it? I mean isn't a marriage between two people for life I don't know maybe I'm old-fashioned. And I miss my hubby who died this year.

    • @josephk4310
      @josephk4310 6 місяців тому +4

      My condolences to you, losing a beloved spouse is incredibly hard.

    • @libertylover4575
      @libertylover4575 6 місяців тому +2

      You’re right, God created sex to be for marriage only - it’s sacred, which is why adultery is listed in the Bible as a really bad sin.

    • @SharonKraft
      @SharonKraft 11 днів тому

      Sorry for your loss. 😢

  • @kinsey0124
    @kinsey0124 7 місяців тому +120

    Another insane case! Annie reminding us all again why marriage and/or murder is not the answer.

    • @annieelise
      @annieelise  7 місяців тому +26

      Never the answer!!

    • @imajesusgirl7546
      @imajesusgirl7546 7 місяців тому +10

      You need a reminder ?

    • @frenchy1987
      @frenchy1987 7 місяців тому +2

      ​@@imajesusgirl7546 😂right lol

    • @kinsey0124
      @kinsey0124 7 місяців тому +1

      @@imajesusgirl7546 I don’t, but apparently this murderous couple did.

    • @imajesusgirl7546
      @imajesusgirl7546 7 місяців тому +3

      @@kinsey0124 Good ! I was going to ask what town you live in so I don't accidentally end up on your street . Lol

  • @junederksen9205
    @junederksen9205 7 місяців тому +8

    Normalizing open marriage doesn’t help anyone. It’s no longer a marriage. If you want lots of partners…DON’T get married.

    • @judypylant1570
      @judypylant1570 7 місяців тому

      Don’t bring innocent children into this stupidity…
      Just keep you pants zipped…

  • @dianaosazenaye1313
    @dianaosazenaye1313 7 місяців тому +144

    People should just get divorce seriously!!

    • @bunnylacy2097
      @bunnylacy2097 7 місяців тому +4

      I agree!! Like wtf. Those poor kids too. They not only lost their father but now their mother is in prison. Obviously, she deserved it, but those kids didn’t deserve to lose their mom nor their dad.

    • @phantomvampyressshadowkiss4690
      @phantomvampyressshadowkiss4690 7 місяців тому +1

      I agree with you just get divorced

    • @belindavandyk6128
      @belindavandyk6128 7 місяців тому +1

      EXACTLY GOD TOLD MOSES TO GIVE A DIVORCE NOTE

    • @Tranqd.24
      @Tranqd.24 4 місяці тому

      Much better than murder.

  • @miss-nomer
    @miss-nomer 7 місяців тому +16

    Husband suggests open marriage, wife goes along with it but doesn’t like it. Wife begs husband to be monogamous again but husband refuses. Wife eventually starts emotional affair out of loneliness. Husband ends up dead. Is anyone actually shocked?

    • @mariarubinstein581
      @mariarubinstein581 3 місяці тому

      Not shocked at the outcome, but definitely shocked about the whole open marriage thing. Why marry at all??? It just doesn’t make sense to me.

    • @JohnSmith-tz8jj
      @JohnSmith-tz8jj 3 місяці тому

      @@mariarubinstein581 If it was the woman who instigated it and someone made the same observation then we would all be accused of 'victim blaming'... but in this case because it is a man, lets all bash him. That is not taking anything away from the fact that 'opening the marriage' - whatever that means- isn't what marriage is all about.

    • @mariarubinstein581
      @mariarubinstein581 3 місяці тому +2

      @@JohnSmith-tz8jj if she had been the instigator I would have said the same thing.

    • @iiiSK8orDI3iii
      @iiiSK8orDI3iii 2 місяці тому

      ​@JohnSmith-tz8jj so you *do* understand that the dynamic is different because of gender roles and the oppression of women? Good.

    • @miss-nomer
      @miss-nomer 2 місяці тому

      @@JohnSmith-tz8jj I’m not “bashing” the man. If roles had been swapped I would be similarly unsurprised by the outcome. My original comment wasn’t an indictment of men, it was an indictment of cheating spouses.

  • @cali.girllivinnnevada8
    @cali.girllivinnnevada8 7 місяців тому +106

    Can you imagine if he decided to share the poisoned food with somebody? Like, “Here dude, try this bomb banana pudding my wife made!” 😅……..💀 WTF were they thinking!?!

    • @bunnylacy2097
      @bunnylacy2097 7 місяців тому +6

      Well, at least they picked a day and time that he would be at work alone. Because of that he couldn’t share with someone.

    • @catherinegoodson
      @catherinegoodson 7 місяців тому +1

      Omg this banana pudding is incredible!! I could die now a happy man… oops

    • @Listening-Lynnie
      @Listening-Lynnie 6 місяців тому +1

      Hubby had woman moving in while I was moving out ..sick yeah he was at the time ..she got physical with both of us, had sheriff involved ...she brought banana pudding to him at work few days later...he decided to not eat it😎

    • @rajaloflandGDTRFB
      @rajaloflandGDTRFB 5 місяців тому

      Damn I just tripped out when I read that.... Really..,. Like bro you want to try my pudding my my wife made

  • @tamaraallen2013
    @tamaraallen2013 7 місяців тому +4

    She chose murder over divorce to avoid child custody battle , she wanted the kids all to herself and the big kicker was the $300,000 plus insurance payout but now she has lost everything including her freedom

  • @CallmeCalypso
    @CallmeCalypso 7 місяців тому +118

    I've seen men push for open relationships so many times and every single time it ends in the relationship ending disastrously. Open relationships don't work. They just don't. There's too many variables. Even if everybody's willing participants, somebody always gets feelings for one of the other couples, or someone ends up getting jealous. It's human nature.

    • @roadwarrior528
      @roadwarrior528 7 місяців тому +11

      I've seen women push for open relationships so many times and every single time it ends in the relationship ending disastrously. Open relationships don't work. They just don't. There's too many variables. Even if everybody's willing participants, somebody always gets feelings for one of the other couples, or someone ends up getting jealous. It's human nature.

    • @CallmeCalypso
      @CallmeCalypso 7 місяців тому +6

      @@roadwarrior528 not going to argue with that. That's true

    • @monico1283
      @monico1283 7 місяців тому +15

      Personally, I only know 2 people who talked their spouses into opening their marriage.. both are women. To no one's surprise, both couples inevitably divorced.

    • @CallmeCalypso
      @CallmeCalypso 7 місяців тому

      @@monico1283 Ok

    • @sammym6655
      @sammym6655 7 місяців тому +13

      You might think you are being blamed for singling out only one gender come on people both women and men are guilty equally in pitching this scenario, the LGBTQIA Plus included. Everyone can be guilty of this it all depends on YOUR and your PARTNERS relationship morals. I'm just not a sharer this scenario pitch would end all my hopes in my partner and our life together I would set them free and move on.

  • @Katseye102
    @Katseye102 7 місяців тому +19

    He tested on a dog???? 😡 so it was easy to kill anything or anyone at that point. I was beginning to wonder because he had all this detail……he’s very calculating. And he was a firefighter?? You just never know the other side of people do you……scary.

  • @Williamb612
    @Williamb612 7 місяців тому +97

    Finally someone who is willing to admit they get jealous…absolutely! This WOKE bs that if you are jealous you need to work on yourself all the time…sometimes jealousy is completely justified, and is not a sign of weakness but rather the opposite. Also a partner who places themselves in situations which may cause jealousy does not respect their partners needs.
    Had a girlfriend who insisted she wanted to spend 1 day a week with her ex boyfriend (she would insist they were nothing but good friends and did not want to lose his friendship) and said it would be a great exercise for me to overcome my jealousy issue….my partner should never have placed me in the situation…folks: if you are placed in a situation REGULARLY which might cause jealousy…walk away from the relationship.

    • @theduchessofschroon6111
      @theduchessofschroon6111 7 місяців тому +6

      It's not worth it! Jealousy is insidious, it might start out small but in no time at all it consumes you! It drives you mad! And I agree with you regarding this " Jealousy is a YOU problem "....I feel that if your partner is putting you in that situation, it's time to leave! When I go out with my husband I stay with my husband OR I drag him along. I believe that people who like to make their partner jealous * they are the 1's with the problem *! They have low self confidence or they get their rocks off by making you jealous! Either way, it's so not worth it! Peace

    • @sheelfjohnson
      @sheelfjohnson 7 місяців тому +16

      Stop using the word "woke" for anything you don't like. Woke originally meant "not being a racist", so it has nothing to do with this topic.

    • @KimmySemak
      @KimmySemak 7 місяців тому +1

      I agree 💯 that’s messed up
      what your ex did to you. How did it end?

    • @AnneliseBlackbriar
      @AnneliseBlackbriar 7 місяців тому

      You think the fundamentalist LDS church is woke? That is pretty much the exact same language they use to keep the women in relationships with polygamist men who just want to sleep around. Clearly you have no idea what "woke" means.

    • @liquideyesart
      @liquideyesart 7 місяців тому +11

      I'm not sure what being woke has to do with what you're saying... I know plenty of woke people, including myself, who are NOT okay with what you are describing that your ex did to you, and are not okay with any kind of open marriages.
      Its perfectly okay to have boundaries.
      In any case, I'm glad you were not going to let your ex manipulate you into crossing a line you were not comfortable with.

  • @allisonmcilroy1547
    @allisonmcilroy1547 7 місяців тому +4

    annie i’ve only been subrsvibed a few weeks but you are HANDS DOWN my fav true crime podcaster!!! “receipts, screen shots, proof!” you don’t miss a thing and you are so easy to listen to

    • @stevenmutumbu2860
      @stevenmutumbu2860 2 місяці тому

      Just stumbled here what lovely podcast new sub too 🇬🇧

  • @awildandraginghoshiappeari1199
    @awildandraginghoshiappeari1199 7 місяців тому +86

    Does Rob not find himself to be weird? He’s the one who wants to open the marriage, but when Sabrina does it, it’s a problem. Why open it if only one party can mess around with different people? That is not an open marriage. That’s just him cheating with no consequences. He can sleep around with her friends and so forth, but she can’t have an emotional and physical affair, and I’m sure he’s doing the exact same thing. Him breaking my phone would have made me go feral, and we would have had problems, especially since it’s again an OPEN MARRIAGE.

    • @nursekillm
      @nursekillm 7 місяців тому +42

      Exactly. And not honoring her wish to stop/go back to church tells me just how selfish he was. Not that this justifies the outcome, but… 🚩

    • @theoutside8346
      @theoutside8346 7 місяців тому +32

      Exactly, this was not an open marriage it was him openly cheating.

    • @gurlinacoma
      @gurlinacoma 7 місяців тому +10

      Don’t get me wrong, I thought a lot of his behavior to be inconsiderate and gross, but I think he wanted her to just have physical relationships with other men, not emotional ones. Sabrina mentioned (which could be false) that rob tried getting her to sleep with other men. Anyway, I do agree tho, open marriages never work and is such an oxymoron. I thought throughout this whole thing, “Get a divorce!” As long as they are there for their kids, it could have been okay.

    • @SunnyDays70s
      @SunnyDays70s 7 місяців тому +13

      @@gurlinacomaThat is STILL selfish because women want emotional connection. Men seem to be just fine with sex. So he wanted his desires met and not hers. So all around- he was a jerk. Not justifying the murder…

    • @JandonBeanPatterson
      @JandonBeanPatterson 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@SunnyDays70s women want that emotional connection? Why do they want/need it so bad? In my experience and like every damn one including the 19 year relationship that ended 6 months ago they all say or all have said something about needing me to show more emotion and hey maybe I did need to but apparently the only thing that ever happens after u start doing that unfortunately these women then turn it around and spin it to use against the dude.... every time this has happened to me and most of my friends samething... open marriage shit ain't no answer and if u at that stage just end it and gtfo and do the best u can for the kids. That's what's been hard on me is what ending families does to younger kids. I went thru it same age my son going thru it and I tried my very best for that not to happen to my family but starting showing more emotion and then it started to be used against me and then started getting manipulated. Not all her fault no doubt but if u go by what she says it was all my fault and I did this that and the other wrong and she was the victim and a perfect angel and did absolutely nothing wrong. But hey its always the man's fault and then we get cut off from our kids and then get our names lied on when she starts telling everyone we don't want time with our kids and they the ones making excuses as to the reasons why we can't get our kids... it's all one big game and for some reason everyone is just looking to make someone else hurt just for the fun of it or in some kinda sense of revenge or justification for ruining lives with lies and doing it with kids involved just makes it that much worse.... but hey that's life am I right boys!!😅

  • @moirahill6397
    @moirahill6397 7 місяців тому +110

    When a man wants to offer his wife to other men then he does not love her.

  • @sandibaker5298
    @sandibaker5298 7 місяців тому +140

    Rob wanted his cake and eat it too, but he wanted his wife to starve. What a huge POS!

    • @nursekillm
      @nursekillm 7 місяців тому +50

      Huge 🚩 imo when a man is ok with seeing his woman with another man. Not victim-blaming bc nothing justifies murder, but I doubt this would have happened if he would have listened to his wife when she said she wanted to stop swinging & go back to church.

    • @KittyDillion
      @KittyDillion 7 місяців тому

      BOOM!! That is it. Boys always want new toys, while wives have zero? Emotional adultery, from long years of experience, is far worse then a sex encounter. But still....

    • @Go_Ask_M0m
      @Go_Ask_M0m 7 місяців тому +9

      @@nursekillmgood point. My husband had been married prior to me. He told me a while back that when his wife/“roomate” threatened to have an “affair”. He explained that in that moment he knew it was over.
      He said he had NO feeling of anger or fear thinking his wife would be with another man. My husband is NOT the sharing type. Not jealous either. Possessive, absolutely. Jealous is wanting something someone else has; possessive is not wanting anyone to have what’s yours.

    • @Lmaoyoudontknowme
      @Lmaoyoudontknowme 7 місяців тому +23

      @@Go_Ask_M0mcalling your husband possessive isn’t something to brag about….

    • @SunnyDays70s
      @SunnyDays70s 7 місяців тому

      Yep!

  • @happychickenscoop6980
    @happychickenscoop6980 7 місяців тому +9

    I think it’s a scary world when someone gets convicted just because someone testifies against you. It doesn’t sound like they had any evidence against her. The fact that he was so calculated and tested the poison on the dog makes me think he was lying about her.

    • @JennyQamoos
      @JennyQamoos 2 місяці тому

      I agree - I didn’t like her on the stand and for personal reasons - but I didn’t hear the solid evidence that she participated without a doubt - he could have decided to do this for them both - what a weird case - sad for the kids

  • @paigestidham8032
    @paigestidham8032 7 місяців тому +43

    My day just got exponentially better! Thanks Annie🎉

    • @annieelise
      @annieelise  7 місяців тому +12

      You're so welcome!

    • @paigestidham8032
      @paigestidham8032 7 місяців тому +4

      Truly the best true crimer of all time 🎉❤

    • @solenelicorne
      @solenelicorne 7 місяців тому

      Moi non plus maman ❤❤😊

  • @ashlenburke5989
    @ashlenburke5989 7 місяців тому +4

    Jonathan speaking so eloquently about everything on the stand was super creepy

  • @wickedstargirldowner
    @wickedstargirldowner 7 місяців тому +38

    I just had 27 teeth pulled yesterday and the only thing that has helped me keep my mind off of how much pain I am in is watching your video's Annie!!! You are just absolutely beautiful, amazing and I am happy bc I won't ever miss your video's for nothing!!! Thank you so much for the hard work you do to put Excellent content out!!!

    • @robertbrodeur4326
      @robertbrodeur4326 7 місяців тому +16

      Heavens, that can't be fun. I hope your recovery is quick and smooth.

    • @KimmySemak
      @KimmySemak 7 місяців тому +4

      Oh man i feel ya.. I
      gotta get mine all pulled also. Did they put u to sleep?

    • @wickedstargirldowner
      @wickedstargirldowner 7 місяців тому +2

      @robertbrodeur4326 thank you so much!! It definitely isn't fun!!!

    • @wickedstargirldowner
      @wickedstargirldowner 7 місяців тому +3

      @KimmySemak Yeah I will tell yah it definitely does hurt after everything wears off!! Yes I got put to sleep!! I actually told them I wanted to be put to sleep and they did it for me!! Now my actual dentist didn't put ppl to sleep so I had to get a Referral to a oral surgeon!!! Now I know when I heal witch he told me it would be about 3 month's for my mouth to completely heal!!

    • @Moonbunny55
      @Moonbunny55 7 місяців тому +7

      Yikes!! 27 teeth pulled???? That’s almost ALL of a human’s 32 teeth. What happened?

  • @hollyanna4985
    @hollyanna4985 7 місяців тому +4

    Great summary of that case, Annie. Those poor children. Hugs to them.

  • @gsmokeandfire
    @gsmokeandfire 7 місяців тому +26

    Honestly Annie you always look amazing and the content is “chefs kiss!”

  • @alix4434
    @alix4434 7 місяців тому +4

    I don't know how you manage to put out so much content, but I'm grateful. You always get a story out right when i need one. Thank you ❤

  • @ScreamMyName666
    @ScreamMyName666 7 місяців тому +22

    I was a sample lady at Costco from 2010-2016 😂! I loved that job so much! I always hooked up the employees with whole samples.

  • @FinsMom
    @FinsMom 7 місяців тому +19

    Poisoning a dog ! Sick , absolutely heartbreaking

    • @Tranqd.24
      @Tranqd.24 4 місяці тому

      This was the most upsetting thing to me.

  • @Courtenay-Dawn
    @Courtenay-Dawn 7 місяців тому +119

    Yay!!! Great way to start my Thursday love ya girly! I’ve been following you since you had 500 followers haha. You were the VERY FIRST UA-cam crime channel I ever visited. I blame you for getting me hooked . Hugs from 🇨🇦

    • @MimiDidi121
      @MimiDidi121 7 місяців тому +4

      Ditto!

    • @Dayna34
      @Dayna34 7 місяців тому +4

      Girl-Same! 😂

    • @TheCarlinCoop
      @TheCarlinCoop 6 місяців тому +2

      Same here girl!! I love her and mainly only watch her since forever now

    • @iratecrow
      @iratecrow 4 місяці тому

      I just found her after YEARS of true crime binging. I love that chapter, crime weekly, and on and on but just found 10 to Life and been binging her ever since

    • @rachelmathews03
      @rachelmathews03 23 дні тому

      😊😊😊😊😊

  • @lucygresham3012
    @lucygresham3012 7 місяців тому +6

    If my husband suggested an open marriage my answer would be " yup...sure...doors open...get the fluff out!" , xx

  • @vanessafulton3190
    @vanessafulton3190 7 місяців тому +22

    “A double-minded man is unstable in all his ways”

  • @Dilydaydream1
    @Dilydaydream1 7 місяців тому +2

    Religious people, open marriage, murder....... now where have we heard that before?! And why is murder preferable to divorce with these people

  • @moe459
    @moe459 7 місяців тому +24

    I’m confused I thought they were in an open marriage? So it’s not an affair if he’s seeing other ppl only if she is?

    • @LisannePlante
      @LisannePlante 7 місяців тому +7

      I think they had an agreement where it was about ‘swinging together’ and never having their own intimate partners by themselves.

    • @LisannePlante
      @LisannePlante 7 місяців тому +2

      I think they had an agreement where it was about ‘swinging together’ and never having their own intimate partners by themselves.

    • @heathergladsjo7377
      @heathergladsjo7377 7 місяців тому +2

      She said in the beginning when it started it was never allowed to be emotional. Only physical.

    • @BoyMama87
      @BoyMama87 7 місяців тому +6

      Exactly what I was thinking!! When he continued to see Kelly, they didn’t refer to it as an affair! ridiculous!

    • @htttpxxx
      @htttpxxx 7 місяців тому +4

      open relationships are supposed to be consensual between both partners.

  • @JessicaGraceAesthetician
    @JessicaGraceAesthetician 7 місяців тому +3

    Thank you for covering cases. I know it must be a lot of work and emotionally challenging for you. I'm still hopeful on my missing friend that you covered, Chelsea, and will always support your channel and share. :) Have a great weekend.

  • @amyedwards7357
    @amyedwards7357 7 місяців тому +23

    I believe they were both involved. Especially after Johnathan’s testimony. No way would he have known things like Rob’s health issues and what he liked to eat and where he worked, his schedule, and that no one else would be at the job as to possibly ingest the banana pudding. She’s just as or more guilty than he is.. PERIOD! I hate it for the kids, losing both of their parents. Hopefully they are doing great and come to truly understand that when you commit a crime, you have to pay for the consequences. Great coverage on this Annie!

  • @sandraahlbom6423
    @sandraahlbom6423 7 місяців тому +10

    I cant believe he tried the poison on the neighbors dog. Ugh. I think they should both be in jail for life. Horrifying that he will get out at such a young age.

  • @danamontilla1692
    @danamontilla1692 7 місяців тому +17

    Annie gurl, you are ON IT!! Thank you for another upload, you are the best!!! :)

  • @confessorsedai
    @confessorsedai 7 місяців тому +5

    I’m sorry but if they’re going to charge 11-15 year old kids as adults, the whole “youth” thing for convicts that committed the crime at 24 or younger is crazy. Make it make sense!

  • @brynnwharton7677
    @brynnwharton7677 7 місяців тому +62

    She didnt want to "look bad* by divorcing him....but gurllll. How u look now as a murderer?! Thats so much better, am i right?

    • @arihomie
      @arihomie 6 місяців тому

      they were soo sloppy with the planning and acting it out, I dont know how she thought she wouldn’t get caught

    • @Tranqd.24
      @Tranqd.24 4 місяці тому

      She wasn't, there's zero evidence against Sabrina except the word of the actual confessed killer. Bad trial , even though she probably was not sad Rob was dead.

  • @cassandraboucher7716
    @cassandraboucher7716 7 місяців тому +2

    Hi Annie! I absolutely love your channel and the message you stand for by giving this victims a voice! I was hoping you’d look at the case of Autumn Hallow. She suffered at the hands of her father and step mom, and I believe her voice and story deserves to be heard! Thank you in advance❤ thank you the voice you give to those who have passed.

  • @awakenthewoke1091
    @awakenthewoke1091 7 місяців тому +10

    By far my favorite channel I have stumbled upon. Keep up the great content!! Really helps to make it through my 12 hours shifts.

  • @BarbaraCowdery
    @BarbaraCowdery 7 місяців тому +5

    I love your videos even though the topics are grim. What I love best of all are your funny quips and comments you make throughout! Everything you say I’m usually saying the same thing out loud ( by myself) and/ or agreeing with you!!! I can tell you put a lot of work into these videos! Excellent channel!!! ( Side note: Your hair looks great!!) Thank you for your videos.

  • @d3athbatbab3
    @d3athbatbab3 7 місяців тому +10

    Just finished your headline highlight podcast episode just to get this notification. How perfect is that?! ❤

  • @darlamurphy2555
    @darlamurphy2555 7 місяців тому +4

    Johnathons "confession" just seems so incredibly detailed. Some of it seems unbelievable

  • @flowerjpotter1629
    @flowerjpotter1629 7 місяців тому +10

    Hi Annie
    Just about to watch.
    In a couple both people can get all excited about the idea of "inviting others" but the reality can be one partner enjoys the experience while the other's feelings change to fuming at seeing their partner enjoy themselves and takes their rage out on their partner later on.
    It's a risky business.
    I'm glad to be too boring these days for shenanigans that can cause all sorts of problems.
    Boring can be a very happy little place if you treasure peace.
    Thank you for bringing us all the cases that you do, it's always a well done and thoughtful presentation 🌌

  • @lilyjean3643
    @lilyjean3643 7 місяців тому +3

    it’s always a good day when the first thing I do is watch Annie ❤

  • @jatbatman
    @jatbatman 6 місяців тому +3

    That trial was big news where I live. The murder happened in my area. Took until you said the location of the murder for me to place it. I know the outcome of the trial, but you're giving details I wasn't aware of.

  • @Katseye102
    @Katseye102 7 місяців тому +25

    It’s never good bringing a third person into your marriage. Even if it’s agreed upon. Because there’s always going to be one of the 3 that feels left out and ignored. If there’s that much distance between a couple either find out what the problem is and fix it, or divorce! Murder is never the answer.

    • @Rae777
      @Rae777 7 місяців тому

      @@1694cgrntmy understanding is that they did both, but I could have heard her wrong.

  • @patiencefullerton6250
    @patiencefullerton6250 7 місяців тому +8

    Let's not sugar-coat this, please? We're all adults here. Open marriage is a misnomer. It means you don't have a marriage, you have two cheaters who live together.
    And hopefully the proud adulterers are not raising innocent children.

    • @nursekillm
      @nursekillm 7 місяців тому

      Unfortunately, there are many swingers who not only raise young children, but also tell said children that this lifestyle is an acceptable choice. Gross

  • @michelebell1997
    @michelebell1997 7 місяців тому +73

    What the hell is wrong with people, are they born evil or what????

  • @hippiebaelala
    @hippiebaelala 7 місяців тому +2

    As a newlywed, me and husband both fully agree that we would never open our marriage. We definitely never plan to divorce and it’s not even in the forecast but at the same time if it ever came down to it being the best option for us, we would consider it after trying all the healthy options of working it out! And the fact that the lady said she thought he would rather die than get a divorce is psychotic! Like who would rather do that?? And if that’s the case(highly doubt it), let that be his decision and he could’ve did it himself. I feel like she manipulated the bf to take her husband out. She was trying to protect her image and in return ruined it smh!!

  • @jesuschristislord6858
    @jesuschristislord6858 7 місяців тому +11

    Swinging aka cheating in the open …

  • @geminimonroe8961
    @geminimonroe8961 7 місяців тому +6

    How in the hell do people have no conscience? The betrayal is incredible.

  • @augustsunshinegirl
    @augustsunshinegirl 7 місяців тому +7

    So selfish on many levels .. not just the murder which is inexcusable but now she leaves her kids with no parents

  • @redlibrarian4216
    @redlibrarian4216 7 місяців тому +5

    NOTHING good will come from opening up your marriage

  • @mariateresa6522
    @mariateresa6522 7 місяців тому +7

    Did I hear that right, Sabrina said Rob would rather be dead than divorced? How could you say something like that? 😮

  • @estephanabossolono4893
    @estephanabossolono4893 7 місяців тому +9

    My husband works for BNSF, as a responder, and his co-worker is the one who found Mr. Limon.
    This is tragic, and I am glad the wife got caught. Those poor kids. ❤

  • @15minsyoullnevergetback
    @15minsyoullnevergetback 7 місяців тому +7

    I look forward to your videos all the time. It’s the highlight of my day

  • @Caresbear
    @Caresbear 7 місяців тому +1

    You’re my new dateline. Ty! Love your stories and watch/listen now every night for bed. Your voice even though describing horrid stories is so relaxing!

  • @kellynh9303
    @kellynh9303 7 місяців тому +28

    Its extremely clear that she wanted out of the marriage so she manipulated & planned Robs murder with her lover thinking she would get away with it. So her actions caused the children to be left without any parents. What a cold heartless jezebel.

    • @jenniferstone3205
      @jenniferstone3205 7 місяців тому +3

      I think a husband who wanted his cake and abusing his wife by shearing her with other men and getting mad about it while he is with other women speaks valumes. you can blame her all you want be he is gulty to he did not lover her he treated her like an object, and he didnt want a divorce either so she is not the only one who didnt want it, but im sure there is more to this story Rob was not as good as he seemed , he should have let her go period he didnt Rob seemed controling and much more

    • @kellynh9303
      @kellynh9303 7 місяців тому +2

      @@jenniferstone3205 I'm sorry so just to be clear your sympathizing with the wife who set her husband up for murder and abandoned her children because she didn't feel love?! No matter what he did ,he didn't deserve death. She's wrong.She went along with swinging until it didn't suit her, she was having an affair, she manipulated this young guy . I'm not saying Rob treated her great but she is 💯 guilty of murder.

  • @hawna123
    @hawna123 7 місяців тому +2

    I'm sorry, but I went to a multi day party out at that lake and spent time with that "firefighter friend" Jason around mid2000s. He was one of the worst people I have ever encountered. Encouraged married men to party like they are single. Very loud, very dominate, very spoiled. The men in that community idolized him. I remember commenting, something bad will happen in this group. So crazy to hear this story. So sad for the kids.
    There is a big prison out there. It's honestly not a good area.

  • @TashaBryanRENegade
    @TashaBryanRENegade 7 місяців тому +8

    You _did not_ make a 9 month cruise reference - Pineapples above the door!
    Clever.

  • @hellpoint7534
    @hellpoint7534 7 місяців тому +9

    Funny how some of these ultra religious types disapprove of divorce and adultry but think murder is AOK.

  • @smokinmirrors9329
    @smokinmirrors9329 7 місяців тому +24

    Its called divorce if you're that unhappy! 😢

  • @chynahchey1969
    @chynahchey1969 5 місяців тому +3

    I live in Kern County and this case was huge here and so much media at the courthouse everyday. It was crazy 😜

  • @2nicnag2
    @2nicnag2 7 місяців тому +17

    Wedding rings-neither my husband or I wear our wedding rings. He can’t with his job and once I quit working an office job, it wasn’t practical to wear to the barn, gym, walking dogs, etc. I completely get though how if someone isn’t wearing a ring most would view them as unmarried, which has happened to us. I was just looking at the rubber type rings that I could wear all the time just a few days ago.

    • @rachie7744
      @rachie7744 7 місяців тому +1

      My husband and I are in this same predicament. We both have jobs that could risk losing the ring (in fact, he actually did lose it once and spent over an hour going through every garbage can until he found it). We have talked about the silicone rings but just not gotten to it…. All the people we work with know we’re married, but customers can make it weird (although some will do that because of the ring, so it ends up being irrelevant)

    • @crystal_sm
      @crystal_sm 7 місяців тому +3

      So true ! As a single female , when I see a good looking guy / talking to one I look for a ring almost right away … 🤷🏻‍♀️

    • @Oldschoolnana
      @Oldschoolnana 7 місяців тому +2

      Buy his & hers. 😂😂

    • @guygrace2570
      @guygrace2570 7 місяців тому

      When I was young my ring finger was mauled by a dog. The damage was pretty severe and I was not able to get to a hospital right away due to a blizzard where we literally had 12 foor snow drifts. Got to the hospital about 10 hours after. Since we had compressed the flesh back to the bone and bandaged it the doctors were able to salvage the finger. However it was mangled for life and it is painful to get or wear a ring. Even if I could wear a ring I would be self conscious of my finger. I always sort of hide it. Being married I just avoid putting my self in situations or when socializing just always mention my wife and kids. Serves me well that way.

  • @streetfamily6909
    @streetfamily6909 7 місяців тому +13

    Divorce will ruin my image but murder that’s a different story. Just wow!

    • @vanessas2363
      @vanessas2363 7 місяців тому

      What an absolute thicko! The backwards logic.
      She was definitely a high school drop out 😂

  • @rachelrae860
    @rachelrae860 7 місяців тому +15

    Hi Annie as always I love and adore you ❤. You truly are the epitome of pure perfection and your always gorgeous 😍. I'm so grateful for you keeping us updated on all kinds of cases 💕🌺💐🦋🤗🥰🌻🌟🌹. You have to be the most consistent true crime creator 💖 and thank you for all your hard work. I forgot to mention the way you deliver these cases it's phenomenal 🙌

    • @theduchessofschroon6111
      @theduchessofschroon6111 7 місяців тому

      WOW! I love Annie too, but, my goodness, what? You wanna marry her for cripes sake? Lol...

    • @rachelrae860
      @rachelrae860 7 місяців тому

      @@theduchessofschroon6111 do you have a problem with what I tell her?

    • @theduchessofschroon6111
      @theduchessofschroon6111 7 місяців тому

      A little bit. I agree that Annie is a beautiful person and I love her channel as well. However, I think that you go overboard with your compliments. It was a joke anyway, I'm sure it didn't ruin your day...

    • @theduchessofschroon6111
      @theduchessofschroon6111 7 місяців тому

      I just read the other comments you left for her and they are all along the same line as this comment. I mean, if you have a girl crush that's OK. I won't say another word. Bye 😊

    • @rachelrae860
      @rachelrae860 7 місяців тому

      @theduchessofschroon6 first of all I don't have a girl crush second of all that's your opinion and then you go and look to see what I write her. I do say the same thing to her. I'm sorry that it bothers you and you think I go overboard and you obviously have a problem with what I say but again that's your opinion. I would love to tell you what I really think but I can't say it on here but I'll just leave it at that. I didn't find it funny at all or think it was a joke but you did piss me off and you can take your sideways ass comment and put it somewhere else. I've never had anyone say anything about my comments to her. And that's all I'll say Feel free to comment back to me. I'll continue to say the same thing to her so if it bothers you that much that's on you. You didn't ruin my day but like I said it did piss me off. My comment got 14 likes so you are the one with a problem. I just read what I wrote her and I definitely didn't go over board with my comment and if you watch true crime creators then you should see what I write them. It would really bother you. I look forward to seeing if you comment on any true crime creators and if you don't comment then I look forward to see if you just went in with me hard but you should go snoop around and see what I write them,, it would really bother you. I look forward to see what you think when I leave them a comment. Since you went back and read what I wrote to Annie go snoop and see what I write about them. And what I wrote about Annie wasn't overboard at all. It is the truth and how I feel about her. Your just an asshole for making that comment

  • @alexandriawood8597
    @alexandriawood8597 21 день тому +1

    Hearing my town get mentioned in legal cases and murder stories always make want to go see if the newspaper in Tehachapi ever mentioned these cases

  • @Tiange678
    @Tiange678 7 місяців тому +7

    You are always thorough. Thank you so much 👍🏽

  • @jasona5833
    @jasona5833 7 місяців тому +6

    If u open ur marriage it’s not marriage

  • @LeslieDanovich
    @LeslieDanovich 7 місяців тому +10

    Girl.....This case was ridiculous!!! WTAF? right now I'm at just over 24 hrs of being awake, and this case felt like a fever dream. Idk, but Sabrina was absolutely her own worst enemy. I just feel bad for the kids.

    • @categurl3967
      @categurl3967 7 місяців тому +1

      Yep, poisoning anything is wrong, why did he have to try his evil on the dog 😡

  • @summerdaze9499
    @summerdaze9499 6 місяців тому

    Annie, you literally get me through the long work weeks. Absolutely riveting storytelling with ON POINT commentary. Never stop

  • @lm3024
    @lm3024 7 місяців тому +3

    Annie! You should cover the case of Lui Top! There was a whole SWAT standoff in front of her home in Dallas TX a few days ago because she was torturing her children and had 6 felony warrants for aggravated assault with a deadly weapon.

  • @fa3ri
    @fa3ri Місяць тому +1

    In the court footage Johnathan looks like a young Ted Cruz 🤣

  • @resQfurppl
    @resQfurppl 7 місяців тому +6

    i’m jealous too - i’m a good woman, if he has me he doesn’t need anyone else!