Top 6 Roguelikes for New Players | Roguelike Starter Pack
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- Опубліковано 3 чер 2024
- Roguelike Starter Pack; Recommended roguelike/lites for new players. Yes ... as I mentioned in the video, these are ROGUELITES. I know. No need to tell me that. I covered it quite clearly!
0:00 THE LIST
4:03 Rogue Legacy
6:35 Slay the Spire
8:59 FTL: Faster than Light
11:28 Crypt of the Necrodancer
13:37 Dead Cells
17:00 Enter the Gungeon
HONORABLE MENTION
* Into the Breach
* Void Bastards
* The Binding of Isaac
* Nuclear Throne
Other Game Shown (listed in order seen):
* Dungreed 0:17
* The Binding of Isaac: Afterbirth+ 0:27
* Spelunky 0:43
* Risk of Rain 1:26
* Neon Abyss 1:42
* Golden Krone Hotel 2:28
* Tangledeep 2:43
* Paper Dungeons Crawler 2:50
* Streets of Rogue 2:57
* Wizard of Legend 3:14
* Void Bastards 15:41
* Skul: The Hero Slayer 19:45
* Blazing Beaks 19:59
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as someone new to the genre i would have to say Risk of Rain 2 is very accessible for new players and easy to understand and also very very good
How the hell does this video only have 11 views?! This is a really great quality video.
Oh I just realized it was only posted 40 minutes ago. But still. You only have 404 subs. That isn't enough!
Why thank you! Glad you like it
@@alexandervk3006 im only answer your comentary because i want you to see how this video got such views and likes jaja i hope yo will see your notifications from youtube
At the moment it has 57k viewers.
I think it pretty good for stater rogue-like players
I just started with dead cells like 2 days ago. It's on the Xbox game pass so I would say that it is definitely a great game for beginners. It's brutal, yet rewarding. Every time I die I don't feel cheated. I know where I made my mistakes and just go back in to get angry over and over again.
Awesome game love playing it on my phone
I just spend 3 hours on it first time playing and didn't realize how fast the time went! I can now see why it's so popular.
First of all, man I love your intro, I would usually have cursed your entire family on 10 generation for having spent so long in a 6 games video to talk without starting to present one of the games, but not only your explanation was really accurate and awesome, you educate people to the genre definition as well as shutting every « these aren’t roguelikes, your description said roguelikes » comment ( I could have been one of those 😔 )
Second, thanks a lot, rogue legacy is so often forgotten, I dearly love that game, like you it was the first roguelite where I have invested a lot of time and made me get more of them, kudos for this little gem.
Concerning the list itself, you said not having put Isaac due to the difficulty, the list being for newcomers to the genre, I would think that dead cell and enter the Gungeon can be pretty brutal. I would have included risk of rain 2 ( for the multiplayer possibility, making runs less hard and more fun to approach the genre ). I’ve hooked a few of my friends to roguelites with that one. Neon abyss is a fantastic one too, and a lot easier as well.
Nonetheless great video ✌️
Nuclear Throne is the game that got me into Roguelikes, and I think it's great for beginners with its quick arcade pace. Simple unlocks and short runs lead to a good new player experience I think.
Don’t stop making great content. Your clearly quite passionate about this topic and honestly you deserve a lot more subs but that’s just a number so keep doing what you love.
Great video for ppl getting into the genre . You covered the greats and mentioned others in description, well done
Great explanation of rogue like vs rogue lite
Dead cells is my favorite. it's so god damn good. And it's hard as hell.
I'd also add Hades
100% on Hades. It was still in Early Access when I made the video, but yes, a revised list would definitely add Hades
@@SkipMcLazy maybe it shouldn't be on the list cause it would set their expectations too high for the genre, cause it's one of if not the best of the genre XD
Tbh this video deserves more traffic it took me years to find these amazing games on my self and this guy just made a video putting them all in one vid plus amazing quality and explanation
Wizard of Legend was actually the game that got me into roguelikes/lites; although now a days, my favourite rogue likes are the Spelunky series and Noita. I think my love for platformers as well is what pulled me towards those ones eventually, although there are so many games that are all so unique, it is what makes loving the genre so fun!
The quality is top-notch bro! Well done. Hope your channel grows big.
I just watched your dead cell videos. Your content is great you have my sub
I have the exact same feeling with - Enter the Gungeon - I suck playing it, but y play at least 1 run almost every night. Grate video, I hope english is understandable.
Commenting because you deserve to be boosted in the UA-cam algorithm. Thank you for the video 🙏
I find it funny how the binding of Isaac was literally my first roguelike
Same
Humble indie bundle lol?
Same here
Looks like my man is getting more and more recognition! Keep up the good work, I’m sure I’ll pay off! Great video, as usual.. BUT NOW I GOTTA SPEND MONEY AND BUY AT LEAST 2 GAMES!!
Great video, came to your channel after picking up dead cells and sucking at it... Subbed for the high quality content, definitely deserve more views!
crazy underrated channel i love your content
Quality video, mate. Like the guy below me, I came here because of Dead Cells. Keep the content coming, fella :)
the game I got me into roguelites was neon abyss. When I first got into the genre I didn’t understand it at all. The first one I ever bought was wizard of legends but it was hard and I wasn’t getting it. than when I got neon abyss I actually learned the style of game was a rogue lite. but being a platform 2D shooter made it easier for me to grasp. I think what it was, when you die you go to a area where you can upgrade perks. The perks made it easier for me to get that it’s permadeath but you get something for playing. Once I got into it I started playing wizard of legends and now I love it, I also got enter the gungeon and now I’m waiting for the switch to have dead cells on sale lol. Great guide
One of my favorites recently is Synthetik. Not very beginner friendly since it's pretty mechanically demanding, but it provides a gameplay experience I can't get enough of.
Great videos overall. Found you since I picked up dead cells. Have a sub
Just got myself dead cells today as my first roguelike and I love it! So fun
What i love about Dead cells is that the game is a platformer, that doesnt feel like one.
I really suck and hate platformers (probably related btw) but dead cells was an exeption for me, you don't have to do extremely tricky jumps, or fall to your death just because you jumped a little bit early or something, in dead cells there is no fall damage, you just get stunned if you fall from a REALLY long distance, you have a lot of tools for movement: rolls, wall jumps, wall runs, double jumps, smash jumps (jump then smash everything below you), you can actually AUTO GRAB on ledges, and climb up platforms automatically, so none of that "oh you didnt grab that ledge" or "you were 1 pixel below the ledge-grabable zone" or "you didnt perfectly did the double jump so now you wont reach lol" bs.
Everything feels extremely smooth and fast paced.
Didn't skip to the end of the book! Thanks for the honorable mention of Into the Breach. I understand the turn-based mechanic didn't do well on the starter pack concept oh well.. It's good that you highlighted the pausing in FTL as decisions depend on how much you want to manage these fights.
I'll give those Action / Real Time Roguelike games a chance, starting with Enter the Gungeon! Cheers!
Love the list! Though, Enter the Gungeon is a pretty hardcore roguelite.
I’d say Isaac is more new players friendly over gungeon at least from my experience, I had to play with the wiki constantly open for weeks and before I started recognizing weapons and synergies while on Isaac you just need to turn on the hud that show the stats and 90% of the items are explained by themselves. Gungeon also has a more complex overall structure (like secret floors and kinda hard to find secret rooms) than Isaac in my opinion. Great video nonetheless and you definitely deserve more recognition
I see what you mean. I think the built in guide/ammonicon in gungeon helps. No, you won't know what an item is the first time you see it, but at least you get the full explanation after that. But I see what you mean.
Excellent channel, well done sir, subbed
Nice video.
I heard a lot about these games, but I only played rogue legacy. It was fun. Thought I am more into the souls like genre/category.
I feel like the turn based and grid based criteria on the berlin definition is the reason why everyone is so fussy about roguelike vs lite, the turn and grid based mechanic is probably because of the software limitations (or era difference idk, if you know a thing or two about programming you can make rogue from scratch in a a few hours of work)so that shouldn't really be a big factor in determining if a game is roguelike or not
Yep! You read my mind
The turn-based grid playstyle was due to the game being played on old green/amber on black text-terminals. Every key press went to the server, it sent commands to re-draw the ascii-art map. I agree that it's pretty limiting to the genre to require that.
Thanks. Just getting into the genre
Dead Cells has discovery. Discovering new enemies/zones (I get that is low hanging fruit), discovering secrets and secret areas. Most importantly there are the secret zone areas where you get bits of lore to slowly understand some of the story going on behind all the hacking and slashing.
Recently i play Children of morta on xbox one, and man, it’s the best roguelike for start. It’s simples to play, have amazing narrative and characters. The game isn’t that long ou hard. A session can play like 20 min, which is a amazing time. More people should play or talk about it!
I would say that moonlighter could make the honorable mentions list but now I have a bunch of new games to try out!
Moonlighter is a quality game as well. Really loved the concept of running your own shop to sell your loot. But it lacked a bit on replayability once you figure out how much things should cost.
@@SkipMcLazy that's fair I just fell in love with the art style and the cute lil shop!
Can't fault you there! It's still a fun playthrough.
I was shocked when i saw your sub count this video is like a video from an 100k sub channel you definetly continue making videos i hope you will be a much larger channel
i like dead cells, the fact that you can see how far you are getting by how much you have unlocked, help me to keep going, in necrodancer after a few deaths i feel like i have not gotten anywhere.
Wizard of Legend getting some screen time! 3:12 That was the one that got me into the genre. Great game imo. Not as long or complex as some of the others but decently challenging for a beginner and experimenting with spell loadouts and relics is a lot of the charm. Can get some really nutty runs
Thanks for giving the name. I decided to first check comment section for the name of that game because had little hope of getting an answer by asking a question to a 2-year-old video. Wizard of Legend looks really good, I had it on my wish list already, but I just didn't recognize it.
Enter the Gungeon was my first and I’m glad, and who doesn’t love puns. Besides Gungeon has some clever, funny and fun puns. And I snuck hundreds of hours into it. All I’ll say is I’m a big fan of the genre. I know dying a lot in video games is not ideal for many players but. It’s a clever and fun way to keep the game going fresh and new.
As someone who recently got into rougelikes (although I have been playing Soul Knight for a while now)
Skul: the Hero Slayer and Dead Cells were the 2 I got, on the game day
I love them both and I'd say they are quite accessible to new players
My favorite games! 4/5 is in my semipermanent list. Got 2 have those platinum trophies :D Maybe 100hrs/each :D Dancing crypt, need 2 check that 1 out. Thx 4 the video
My first rogueli(t)e was Enter the Gungeon. Here's the list of all the ones I've played.
Enter/Exit the Gungeon: not brutally difficult, lots of focus on the high variety of weapons. Quite a few neat references. Lots of learning how to dodge the enemies. 5 main stages, 5 optional stages, no looping. -Blasphemy op-
Nuclear Throne: like Gungeon, but way faster gameplay and way harder. Lots of characters to unlock, requires dodging skill and strategic choice of mutations, allows you to loop infinitely instead of taking one of the two endings. -Fish can roll.-
Risk of Rain 1/2: probably my favorites. Lots of very unique characters and items, has difficulty options ranging from easy to terrifyingly hard. A bit ring dependent, but the game isn't afraid to let you become game breakingly powerful. 2 final bosses, infinite looping, wave based survival mode. RoR2 may get more dlc at some point and both have decently big modding scenes for pc. -bungus moment-
Crypt of the NecroDancer/Cadence of Hyrule: my third favorites, maybe a tie with Gungeon. Dungeon crawlers with rhythm based movement. Almost entirely skill based. No infinite mode, but lots of very challenging modes and characters to try. Necrodancer got a new dlc recently. -Reanimate!-
Dead Cells: -finally a non top down game- my second favorite. Incredibly difficult with optional assist mode, loads of stages, tons of well balanced weapons. Watching the game looks like pixel soup but playing it is much better. Unlocking everything is a very long grind. Not infinite, but high replay value. Still recieving free updates and some paid dlc. -they literally added frying pan nunchucks, you gotta play it-
Downwell: very short 4 stages + 1 boss, not super hard, it's literally 3 dollars just go get it
Blazing Beaks: like Nuclear Throne but much easier and slower paced. Items have a risk reward system where you pick up bad items and cash them in for good ones later. I think it loops infinitely, I never beat it.
Shovel Knight Pocket Dungeon: Necrodancer if it was a puzzle game. Loads of characters, 3 major updates planned, infinite loops. -Propellor Rat best girl-
Wizard of Legend: insanely high moveset customization, pretty difficult. All about learning to dodge and finding nice move synergies. 6 main stages, 4 boss stages. -lightning chain go brrr-
(I have also played Hades, Skul the Hero Slayer, and GoNNER, but not enough to summarize them here)
Edit: wrote this halfway through the video, didn't notice most of these were already mentioned. Oh well.
I think my first rogue like was risk of rain. I didn’t understand it and let it sit and rot. Then I played risk of rain 2 and fell in love with the genre.
have you tried the square like ship that has drones? if you get the dlc for FTL you get an extra drone that can suck energy from one system on the enemy ship, it helps make things a little easyer
I loved your video!
You definitely deserve more recognition. That's gonna be an ez sub from me dawg.
Great video, but I wouldn't put FTL as a roguelike for beginners. Honestly i'd put somewhere behind Noita as an anti-beginner game.
i am a fan of roguelike genre, thanks for this video
Glad you like it! I'm a big fan myself, clearly. 😀
Why haven't I subbed to this channel yet? Nice Work!
Rogue vania is now my new fav genre
Gordian Quest, Hades, and Curse of the Dead Gods are some of my favorites.
hi, you talked about it in the video about roguelikes and roguelites-but I want to bring up the fact that I think the games listed are too different from each other in general. It's probably so you can help new people find even their most out there wants, but the only two ones that are semi-related are Skul and Dead Cells since they're both action platformers.
BUT
now that I think about it. A lot of the classic/traditional roguelikes are REALLY hard to get into. Like, they're so much fun when you know them, but trying to learn Nethack takes a week to get the basic commands then another week to know early game survival.
Yep, you hit the nail in the head. I was trying to pick a set of games with a lot of diversity so that no matter what kind of games you like there's something to try, hopefully.
I like both traditional turn based Roguelikes and the action Roguelikes. Just depends on what I feel like playing at the time.
Also the card games that play as Roguelikes.
I generally keep the three as their own sub-genres, and recommend them as such depending on what someone is looking for.
I have friends who won't enjoy a classic Roguelike, so I'll recommend action Roguelikes instead. And friends who don't like actiony stuff, so I'll tell them about good turn based Roguelikes.
i would say hades is also a great introduction and i love gungion but it did take me 350 attempts to beat for the first time but is one of my favorite games
Hades, yes! It came out after I made this video
What are the games in the intro section? several of them looked really interesting
Enter the Gungeon is a hard bullethell game and too difficult for beginners. but yeah, it's great fun! :)
i hear atomicrops and children of morta are good for new rogue likes. have you played recettear or card hunter or steamworld quest hand of gilamech ? these games arnt roguelikes but they are very good.
I’m surprised Risk of Rain 2 isn’t on the list. With its three difficulty settings, item descriptions in game to let you know what they do, third person shooter gameplay, and artifacts that can modify your runs to make it easier or harder, Risk of Rain 2 feels incredibly friendly to people who never played rougelikes.
It was my first rougelike and got me interested in the genre, and I got my friends into the genre through Risk of Rain 2.
My First roguelike was Gungeon. I super reccomend It. Made me played Dead Cells, Neon Abyss ( do not reccomend tbh ) and Into the Breach after that.
GUNGEON isn’t a roguelike, it would be considered a roguelite
@@jimmypadgett4288 Tbh - 90% of roguelikes are rogueLites these days. the differences of the two have started to blend ... as true roguelikes without progression are far and few between
6 is my favorite number in between 4 , and 8 I only like even numbers.
Etg is my favorite rogue like, and I think it also teaches you how to play other games. Like twin stick shooters. And honestly I have never beaten it fully. I’ve won a couple runs, but I have 200 hours in the game. Yes I am old. But the difficulty can be a downer.
Hades and dead cells got me into the genre, boh king games imo, especially slay the spire
For anyone wondering, from when he said the definition has changed over time. Now rougelikes have you restart the same everytime while in rougelites something caries over to your next run. I see the Berlin interpretation what makes Rouge (the first game in the genre) Rouge but not what makes Rouge a rougelike. That is why the definition is so strict. In fact from what I've seen there is an extra rule that say it has to be text based, so yeah, that isn't happening anytime soon.
There are varying degrees even in there. What about games that unlock items? It's still progression, but relatively starting over. Best to not worry about the technical definition. 😃
@@SkipMcLazy Personally I say that if it makes the game easier (or harder) than it's a rougelite. Like I would say enter the gungeon is a rougelite since none of the weapons are "better" just more variety. I would say this opinion got me into many arguments but the only time I ever talk much about rougelike/lite games is now and when I recommend the genre to friends.
Dead cells, slay the spire, and hades always come up when I watch these videos the only one of the few I mentioned that I play is hades
Pra zerar Dead Cells vc terá que pegar as 5 células e matar aquele cara que vc deposita as células, esqueci o nome, haa tem as dlcs aínda
Apparently Dead Cells is my first Roguelike/vania but thankfully Hollow Knight prepared me for everything in this game!
Isaac (the original one, though rebirth is probably not different enough to have made me think differently) was what originally got me into the genre. I don't think it's a bad place at all to start if it looks interesting to you. It's not too overwhelming due to how slowly things unlock, though I do think you should use the platinum god website to know what items do (or use the mod that has item descriptions after you've "beaten" the game once)
I also started with BOI:WOTL and flash isaac, they haven't aged very well imo. I think base game rebirth is a good starting point for beginners in roguelikes (better than most of the recommendations in this video). Just save DLC for when you can actually beat the Blue Baby/Mega Satan/The Lamb pretty consistently.
Your voice is really relaxing
Thank you! I've been told I can put people to sleep. Thinking I should tag my videos with "insomnia help" maybe? :D
@@SkipMcLazy that would be nice. Or maybe you could make a podcast? I would love to hear that
@@trustreds183 I have thought about that, I honestly have! I'm stuck at the "what in the world would I talk about" step. Haha!
What’s the game at 1:30? Looks great
I actually find Issac ( mechanically ) to be pretty easy to play. That being said, 200+ hours in and I don't understand everything. lol
How the hell does this guy only have 980 subscribers, that is the question
hes managed to gain another 2K since then in 4 months :)
FTL is way more daunting than Isaac tbh
So many games to play, so little time lol
What about Noita, the mage with modular spells, gameplay modifiers, and pixel physics and chemics? :)
High quality game. It's got a pretty steep learning curve though. Not sure I'd put it as a noob recommendation, but definitely a great pickup otherwise
@@SkipMcLazy well, you may make a top-list of "games for clever people" or something like that. ;)
Everspace deserves at least a mention, if not a spot on this list.
I would recommend Invisible Inc.
Have you checked out The Persistence? It is sort of like a cross between Void Bastards and Alien Isolation.
I haven't ... but I'm not a huge fan of anything that leans towards horror genre. That's the part of Void Bastards I like the least. :D But thanks for the recommendation
Try "Home Behind 2"
It's amazing.
My introduction to roguelikes was Enter the Gungeon.... it was hard, but I still loved it and roguelikes are not my favorite genre!
This channel is so underrated it makes me sad :(
Don't be sad! It's growing! :) Glad you like the videos!
@@SkipMcLazy me like your videos :)
Hades is a rogue lite that leans into the story a lot, like the story is really good I’d consider it the most accessible rogue lite to the general public, however starting with it will leave you spoiled, it is not the standard.
Kinda sad 20XX didn't get mentioned, but there is a sequel 30XX coming kinda soon!
The rest of these are all great!
Dungeon of the Endless is also quite neat.
Full confession: Haven't played 20xx yet! It's on my list, and I've seen the speedrun, but I haven't played it yet. When does 30xx drop? Dungeon of the Endless is good. I haven't played it much, but it's on my list of games to put more time into.
Any reason why you thought Into The Breach was undeserving of a spot?
Great video, you should try Catacomb Kids, is really good.
Thanks! I'll check it out
That's a nice video and a very solid list. I would just like to comment that you got the meaning of "non-modal" a bit wrong.
A modal game is a game which is separated in two or more modes. The easiest (non-roguelike) example is Pokémon. In Pokémon, you have a "walking" mode where you can explore the world, and a battle mode. You can't use Pokémon attacks while in "walking" mode, and you can't also wander around the city while you're in a battle. These modes are separate, which means that Pokémon is modal.
In a non-modal game, you should be able to attack at any time and also move at any time. These should not be separate modes for a game to be considered non-modal.
So, Slay the Spire is actually a modal game, since you have the part where you move through the map and the part where you battle, and they are very clearly separate. Dead Cells, on the other hand, is actually non-modal, as you don't enter a "battle mode" when you reach an enemy as you do in Slay the Spire.
Thanks for that! I definitely had it wrong, as it was explained to me wrong. Now I know!
Gungeon was first roguelike/roguelite I played, 99.9999% 2 years ego, and only thing I dont have is weapon skin change for hunter
I'm new to the genre. I've only played enter the gungeon and I'm loving it. I'm like 50-60% done so I was wondering what other similar games are out there. To me the genre is just about unlocking new items each play session until you have the skill neccesary and items good enough to reach the end. Basically the same thing you describe in this video. I don't care if it's also a card game, a third person shooter, a close combat hack and slash, etc. That's not what defines the genre.
this video is so well made, but my only problem with it is the choice of games. everything checks out as a starter roguelite until we get to dead cells. thats where everything speeds off track. dead cells is honestly the hardest roguelite i've ever played, which is said the same by many people. most people take at least a month to complete their first 0bc run, and dont even get me started on 1+ BC. you just gotta remember that you're speaking to noobs of the genre who have 0 experience whatsoever. I can also say the same about gungeon, because they really put hell in bullet hell. gungeon is also a pretty damn hard game that noobs are going to have a really hard time getting through. I think that the video is so good, but you just need to reconsider at least these choices as both dead cells and gungeon are very hard games that noobs wont be able to get a good grasp of.
You put dead cells on this list so I will give you a like sir
Yeah dead cells and gungeon are my jams and I thought that neon abyss would be too
It was not
Spoilers for the video btw. I’m so happy my 2 favorite roguelites made it onto this list (enter the gungeon and dead cells.) I’ve never felt more accomplished than killing the lich with the finished gun
I also have the last 2, also finished gun for lich is broken specially for the 2nd and 3rd phase
A L I C E I know I’m just saying actually having the finished gun is a huge accomplishment
@@marcoconde417 well true that, took me 171 hours to get it all
Sad trombone. I started my Roguelite/like journey in Isaac. Lol. Definitely hard, but fun
I started in Dead cells and gungouns
I'm gonna go ahead and be that guy and just say that I was playing ADOM, ZAngband, and yes, even Rogue back in the early 2000's in high school. Those old ASCII games take a lot of time to just simply learn the controls for, much less make it past the first few floors of the first dungeon. While I'm no snob or autist, I can understand why people in the "Traditional Roguelike" community get particularly anal about others bandying the term "Roguelike" around when the VAST majority of people have no clue what "Rogue" was. Couple that with the fact that the people who play these games are enthusiasts for ultra-hardcore gameplay and strategy to the exclusion of "graphics" altogether, making them a niche of a niche of a niche of gamers. The underground of the underground of games. So, unsurprisingly, having the mainstream essentially co-opt their term and applying it to games that are in many ways loosely if at all based on anything resembling the thing it supposedly took inspiration from, frustrates many of the Reddit-Users. Kind of like the way slang or inside jokes become memes, the term "Roguelike" has taken on a life of it's own. The fear here, I guess, is that the origins and true meaning will be lost as more and more companies adopt this term to lend credibility and entice people to buy their games. As an example, most of the games you mention in your video, "Hardcore" might be a more apt classification, but because of the dilution of the term, using "Hardcore" in games is recognized simply as a nebulous marketing term to provide a consumer with that brief fleeting anticipation of an authentic experience only to crush that hope in short order with the realities of the gaming industry, but I digress.
This is admittedly my first video of yours, so take a like and a sub. Also, if you haven't already, maybe try giving the old school Roguelikes a spotlight or overview video and give them some love. Great suggestions in this video, keep up the great work, I'm off to check out your other videos.
I really think this genre would just be infinitely better if they had the option of permanent character progression or difficulty mitigation in some way. Hades did it perfectly where I could turn on a modifier, if I wanted, that increased my defense every time I died until I could actually make it through the game and it didn't penalize me in any way by turning it on. Unfortunately I know of no other game in the genre that does this.
Slasher's Keep makes dying part of the core gameplay. You scale, get to a point where enemies outscale you, die and you keep some stats and perks with every death. The game is designed for you to die multiple times in a run. I've only had a no-death run once but I cheesed the game pretty hard.
I am new to roguelike games, my first game was hades, completed the heck out of it. M trying deadcells and m getting my ass whopped. R u sure deadcells is a starter game?
Monster Train is a much better recommendation for beginners than Slay the Spire which is quite hard and very frustrating ; this is one the rare game I've rage quit.
slay the spire is the best, with mods, you can play as sailor moon :D
the definition of the roguelike gender is diferent from the rest because of being so specific, but we must consider, when it was created, we only had copies of rogue and just a few things experimenting with the formula.
look to the soulslike for instanc, we have many games the exactaly copies dark souls, they have estus, bonfires, staminas, but what makes dark souls unique is very simple, the ordinary enemy you find is as strong as your character, and many are even stronger, facing two at once is usualy deadly. same for roguelike, justa have a game with random regeneration and something resembling a perma death.
I agree that starting with Isaac is a bad idea. I started with Isaac when it was still in rebirth like 4 or 5 years ago and it was so hard to learn the genre. In Isaac I feel like your more dependent on getting broken item combos compared to other games that have a greater reliance on skill
if dead cells count would hotline miami also count lol?
Wouldn't recommend enter the gungeon, it is slow, very hard (even for rogue like standards) has a lot of hidden mechanics and is one of the most luck reliant in my opinion (this game without a really good weapon tends to feel like a slog). I would recommend hades on the place. And even tho I love binding of isaac I wouldn't recommend because fast reseting until you get a good item looks strange.
Heh. I don't like metroidvania games so i didn't like deadcells too. This game is my enemy right now because all of the roguelike lists occupy place for this game. Hades is another enemy. Though i liked hades for it's story and the way it progresses and i think good of this game i didn't quite feel enough gameplay there (lots of god combinations didn't change gameplay much). I like kind of rogue like where you get some abilities\disabilities, have to adapt and create build around it.
List in the video is good though. I think i will download Crypt of necromancer now