@@randomusername1735 Even in the comics (where presumably the daughter would have been born before Joker became.. the Joker), He was like "Nah thats bullshit"
Random Username if they make it the same as the comics , which they probs won’t, she just calls herself that. She isn’t the biological daughter of the joker and never has significant interaction with him
I love how Batman has a bunch of adopted kids in the comics, they could have gone with ANY of them (Dick Grayson, Jason Todd, DAMIAN WAYNE WHO IS HIS ACTUAL SON) but no they come up with the a new, most basic ass character ever. Good job CW
not to mention his daughters, cass, and even helena, although she’s from another earth. theres duke, tim, like so many charcters in the main earth that are his kids and even more from alternate earths that could have been used, but instead we got this bitchy white boy. the only positive thing about turner is the fact they wont be ruining an already pre-existing character
I actually prefer making a new character, as we don’t have to associate the inevitable piece of shit show they produce with any of those good characters
Literally, like Bruce has high and I mean HIGH expectations for his comic accurate sons (like Damian and Dick), like do they think he'd just not bother with a biological son???
Power rangers cgi was hilariously terrible, youre just saying that because you hate the cgi now but it wasnt in any way better my friend, not talkin shit just saying fam
"Why do they keep doing it?" My theory: - Smallville was a huge hit back when it was WB - Superhero content is already super rehashed and overdone, why not ride the train?
The writers behind these shows are geniuses. Imagine you wake up in the morning, pull down your pants, drop a massive shit on a page, then turn it into CW and they give you 50,000 dollars for it. Then they call you back next year and ask you to do it again. I call that a smart career path.
I saw a bunch of fans of riverdale justify its bad writing with a theory that it's story was created by the main character himself as a bad self insert/fantasy, and that's why it's cringy. Basically saying "yeah the writing is shitty because it's supposed to be written in the style of someone who's bad at writing" These writers for riverdale have their fans coming up with conspiracy theories just to cover for their 7th grade level dialogue and plot twists, they truly have struck gold
@@beenis9842 I mean riverdale is a genuine masterpiece for how insane and dumb it is. It's like if someone ate jojo volumes and puked them on a teen drama and they unironically made it
Imagine being a high schooler, your dad just died, then you meet some girl who you have a class with and she not only tells you that she knew your dad, but also that he called her “his little Robin”…. Like WTF 😂
This makes me appreciate Gotham series a lot more, despite the problems itself had, still a decent series and after seeing this it's definitely leagues above this shit.
Gotham was very entertaining and a really nice spin and just seeing Gotham in depth and how crazy it really is in Gotham. (It also had good acting and decent cinematography)
I have to respect the CW for giving me the most savage rejection I've ever seen in a piece of media. There is a scene in Arrow where Felicity is in a wheelchair because of a bad injury. Oliver proposes to her while she's in the chair and she stands up and leaves. Literally struggles through her wheelchair-level injury just to reject Oliver. This is peak television.
Ahahahahaha I remember that. Iirc, she got angry because he didn’t tell her about his child. It’s such a petty reason to fight. S3 end fight with Damian Dahrk was pretty bad too. They literally took turns punching each other (not even any special fight moves, just regular turn based punches) and Damian lost
@@mrdeftino4682 can’t remember what happened in S4, but I agree. Season 1 and 2 were really good, although I expected more from Deathstroke fight. (Biased towards Arkham Origins fight). I think the mayor arc was somewhat interesting for a bit…. Prometheus was a pretty good villain, then he got did dirty for his death by ghosts
@@mrdeftino4682 the flash was also pretty fun for 2 season. And I have a soft spot for season 1 of Legends of Tomorrow because of Captain Cold. Everything else is pretty crap…
To be fair, the "daughter of the Joker" is Duela Dent, who is an actual comic book character who pretends to be the Joker's daughter; that's not just some BS that CW pulled out of their ass
According to the wikipedia article that is actually the theme of the show's premise. Although Joker's Daughter isn't literally the Joker's daughter, that's just her villain name, so she doesn't actually fit that theme. Although this show is already making blatant changes to the Canon so that's probably not gonna be the case here.
@@RockandrollNegroOr used to half-own the CW because if you already or haven’t heard last year, Nexstar just bought a majority stake in The CW and Paramount Global reverted their most of their CW O&Os back as independent stations not too long ago.
Honestly, the early Arrow and Flash episodes really weren't bad. They definitely weren't anything amazing, but they were enjoyable and had some good moments.
The thing is though, CW wasn’t always considered so bad. Once upon a time, many years ago, CW was only known for the first few seasons of flash and arrow which were pretty good. Unfortunately, it just downhill from there and they are now known as the worst tv network to exist
Its kind of a shame. I thought the first 4 seasons of supergirl were pretty good tbh. but season five was just mediocre and season 6 is so repulsively bad I can't even continue watching.
@@jao999 I mean I totally respect and understand why you think that.that's why I said that I personally thought they were good. season 6 was a dumpster fire but the final episode was actually a pretty nice send off for the show. its definitely not a great show but its a good time killer for the first 4 seasons.
I mean, that has happened before, but often through people finding out who Batman was and then ambushing him while he was out public as Bruce Wayne. Then you also have the fact that canonically, one of the main reasons Batman doesnt die to guns is because people assume the weakest spot on his armor is his strongest spot, when in reality, that part has very little to no protection from bullets. If you're gonna kill Batman, you have to do it by either having him unprepared, someone having deduced his identity, or someone having deduced his weaknesses. Preferably all of the above. It's like killing Superman with a kryptonite bullet. Yeah, it could work, but it would be better if you gifted him a plant that has very tiny kryptonite dust particles in its spores first so that he wouldnt notice he was getting weaker untill he doesnt even notice the bullet had kryptonite in it. The manner of death isnt disrespectful, its the road traveled to said death that is.
They had batgirl which was borderline impossible to watch for how bad it was😂. Like I stopped watching cw after Arrow season 3 and I saw batgirl clips on Twitter and they was killing the show😂😂😂
Thank god they aren’t writing any of the marvel shows if they had the license to that they would be doing constant crossovers with each dc characters and marvel characters and making up new ones that haven’t been introduced in the comics but only the show like super girls step sister 🤦🏾
The only CW superhero show I can get myself invested in is late-stage Legends of Tomorrow because like, you can tell they don't take it that seriously, so it just feels like 2012 avengers "they all live in the tower and play mario kart" style fanfiction. Theirs an episode where they have to go bowling to save the world. It's just so silly that it's hard to be mad at it.
Very ironic and definitely negligence and carelessness that the writers had the kids admit that they broke in and stole batman's shit and got him murdered and then they become the crew with batman's son... Just wild. Thanks for sharing.
@@averageperson5845 neither are messages. Just a massive cult following of "look at us". "look at us NOW or you will be exiled from society". Lmao. Both should be respected. But it was just an attention thing.
It should be noted that Superman & Lois is genuinely great. It's remained my top superhero show since it started, and I watch most of them, both DC and Marvel - though I've dropped several CW shows. Tyler Hoechlin is fantastic as Superman and I've seen so many people say he's become their fave, some comparing him to Christopher Reeve. It has an odd moment here or there and the CG doesn't always hold up to the impressive standard set early on, but it never dips enough to really drag it down. The balance between Clark's superhero life and home life and the genuine, realistic family dynamic is the core of the show.
Also, while it was very blatantly set up to be in the same universe as the other CW "Arrowverse" shows (Diggle from Arrow appears in season 1) they pulled a 180 on that and made it clear in the season 2 finale that it's separate from the other shows. In other words, this is a different Earth with a different Superman. It's upset some fans but I'd say it's for the better in the end. Gives them a fresh start.
@@mayonnaise3959 Daredevil is certainly cream of the crop, I was talking about current shows within the past couple of years though. Very excited about Daredevil coming back, hopefully Disney doesn't screw it up.
@@JustanotherNPC8454 I'm well aware of that, but it still originated from the CW shows and Tyler's Superman first appeared there, so I wanted to point out that it's not exactly like the typical CW superhero show.
Batman has gone toe to toe with The Joker, who tests his morals and pushes him to the limit Riddler, who trys to make Batman seem stupid, and fails (maybe he wrote this) Bane, who breaks his body Poison Ivy, who trys to seduce him, and fails Penguin, who is pretty much a good ol' gangster. Who do the GCPD think killed him... some teens who wouldn't look out of place at an emo con.
fuck that, Batman as literally fought an Avatar of Darkseid and WON, the man got a plan for every single super hero in the JL, including himself, has beat up the entire JL in a hush while they were infected with the Joker gas. Comes the police and says he dies to some fucking TEENAGERS, HIGH SCHOOL TEENAGERS, NOT EVEN SOMEONE TRAINED LIKE A ROGUE ROBIN.
Imagine the pain and sadness these infamous villains are going through- Honestly that would’ve been a funny concept. Villains who wanted to destroy Batman take on revenge on who killed him especially Joker bc there’s a ongoing joke that they fight like a “old married” couple for shits and giggles
Conceptually, this could be a really cool idea for a show. A detective mystery whodunit centered around the death of Batman. It could be low budget and focus on the mystery aspect rather than throwing in a bunch of action scenes. I could see it working if well written. Too bad cw only knows how to make shit.
That’s the bizarre thing: the CW was exposed not too long ago for being entirely unprofitable SINCE ITS LAUNCH. Reports state that the channel hasn’t turned a substantial profit since conception even when they had Supernatural airing.
and i forgot to also add this but they also get profit from there subchannels (ever since 2009 when the Digital TV Transition TV stations have been allowed to air more than 1 channel, instead of just channel 5 you have channel 5.1, 5.2, and ect.
You know what's insane, a show about the rest of the bat family having to step up to Bruce's legacy after he's dead would actually be a good show, having night wing struggle to fill his boots, having red hood go on a rampage, having red robin and Batgirl try to find who killed him, seeing robin try to keep to his father's teachings even though he's not there, seeing Catwoman slip back into thievery but that's not this
That's honestly what I want the next Arkham game to be. Just each character dealing with it, their own way. Some of the villains could rise in the empty void that Joker and Scarecrow left. Maybe they change their ways. It's something I liked about post-Arkham City, was that there was this void left by Joker.
The battle for the cowl actually exist in comic book lore. Batman was believes to be dead. So the former Robin's couldn't decide who would be batman. It's one of the better arcs in terms of Robin stories.
For all of the CWs awful shows, Supernatural will always have a place in my heart and is one of their few shows I regard as good. But they probably held a gun to Misha Collins' head in order to film lmfao
It turns out the the CW has literally not been making money since it started. The only thing keeping it afloat was Supernatural and not long after it finished it came out that they are going bankrupt. I have a feeling the only thing that will keep Gotham Knights alive is Misha Collins.
I don't watch television at all anymore, or news about new shows. Misha Collins is gonna be in this trash show? I kinda feel bad for him. What's his character?
Comparatively(I’ve seen more than enough other shows, good or bad, be talked about to death), you don’t see a lot of videos talking about most CW shows, partially because so many don’t even care enough to even make a video about them and their disasters these days(there are exceptions, but that’s just what they are in the grand scheme of things), so I appreciate this.
@@nicholascernatescu6685 this may be a hot take but I never really liked Cass. He was fine at first but just got super annoying in later seasons. Also he was killed like 6 or 7 time and they would always bring him back for no good reason.
Yeah at the time they were really really great. In retrospective they’re just decent. Those shows came out at a time when superhero shows weren’t really a big thing. Then Daredevil came out and changed everything
Godspeed is such a bad villain holy shit In the comics he is another speedster who can steal the speedforce from others so he hides hes intentions until he can be powerfull enough to fight the flash In the series he is so "WAHAHAHA THE FUTURE IS NOW MINE" Like holy shit how can they take one of the best modern villains in DC and make him be such a generic bad guy?
the worst part is that they aren't even using any of the robins or batgirl; you know the, characters that actually make up the Gotham knights? if you can't get the actual characters don't make the show!
In the cast list I saw one of them is supposed to be Stephanie Brown, who was both a robin and a batgirl, but something tells me the that they're gonna pay ZERO respect to the character and she'll end up as bland as every other person they've written. I actually really like some of the characters they've chosen to showcase here. I just don't trust them to not turn them all into edgy sex-crazed morons.
I think they really want to get the next Riverdale. Buy a franchise, use only the characters names and maybe a little bit of their physical appearance, and then do literally nothing else with the source material. To the point that buying the licensing rights was a complete waste of money and could have been an original series all on its own.
Riverdale worked because it was based on a comic that's not widely known by this generation. These superhero shows are never going to work unless they follow the source material relatively closely. DC comics and their heroes, especially Batman, are still insanely popular, and fans don't like when you mess with that stuff too much. There are certain liberties you can take, but the CW takes hot dumps all over these characters.
I think the saddest part is that the CW keeps good actors out of movies and shows with more potential like Misha Collins. I wish he left the studio when Supernatural ended
they did the same thing with timeless, they were afraid they weren't gonna get season 2 so they tossed Misha Collins in all their promos for awhile and it worked, it saved the show. I'm guessing anyway since they did get a season 2 lol and he was in less than 5 minutes of the episode.
I agree with Charlie's statement that the writers are well in their 60's writing out of touch crap for 14 year old teenage girls. The worst line the CW's ever written, apart from the infamous "It will be when it fits a woman" line is when they had a kid say "10 is the new 16", I am convinced that everyone at CW is a groomer.
"I am Convinced that everyone at CW is a Groomer" I heard people say They had Naomi, a Child, having every mofo trying to hit on Her. CW Writers have some issues, I swear, cause they have The Flash being obsessed with his Adoptive Sister and then Marrying her. Then, they decided to go through a Comic Book and have Superman's Relatives Marry each other. I have no words for them 💀💀
@@baligong3592 Naomi is a weird one because everyone is obsessed with her. In the show, she has no flaws and no character development at all, she's so boring to watch. So why are all of these people obsessing over her?
@@0x00Fyou She's basically a Character at the end of their Story Arc but being placed in the Beginning. It feels as if CW Writers either Lacks a Brain to put their Thoughts into Words, or they think Dangerously, no in-betweens
The youngest writer for the show is 37, and she also wrote for Batwoman. The rest look like they're in their 40s. They really have no idea what they're doing.
Batman is dead, and the GCPD immediately suspects minors to kill the Dark Knight Detective himself. Batman has been long around to the point that he's dead now, but Harvey Dent still isn't Two-Face after all this. --- Like CW isn't even trying anymore.
Unless it's been actually confirmed to be Two-face then it could be Harvey Bullock instead, who would already be too old anyways at that point to show up that young, same applies to Dent
People will now say that Gotham Knights is absolutely one of the shows of all time, but now we can also say that CW is one of the networks released in television.
Reminds me of the scene in S4 of arrow (crossover) where Felicity got mad at Oliver for not telling her that HE had a child he didn't know about .... literally 5 hours after discovering it and she got mad, and the worst part - She said "I don't think this relationship can be built around a lie!" when she lied to him ... far more
The type of shows that CW dishes out makes the storywriting, dialogue and special effects in Morbius look like it’s a once in a generation cinematic masterpiece.
I read the cast list and they literally just took a bunch of characters from scattered comic book arcs and timelines and put them into one show as a team. Like, the girl that said she was robin is Carrie Kelley who isn't supposed to be robin till Batman's in like his 50s or 60s.
@@sinistralhydra yes and no dark knight was in a way the "official" future for a bit so no but that was like 3 universe reboots ago so yes and she is like op said not robin close to anyone else
A better idea for a show would've been an alternative timeline where one of the members of the batfamily offed Bruce and we the viewer and the main character most likely being knight wing would have to figure out who did it.
"He called me his little robin" The ONE scenario where this would be remotely ok was if this was his daughter. But its not. Batman has a son. The main character. And she says some point in the trailer that she lives with her mom. So she isnt and adoptive child of bruce at all like some of the other robins. So now it just looks like Batman groomed this highschool girl. No wonder he died. He was the shittiest PoS Batman ever. And Batman was already a PoS to his robins. So CW just continues making Batman shitty. Like why?
She's suppose to be Carrie Kelley's Robin. Looks like she may have taken up the Catgirl moniker from DKR2. Which is interesting because Miller basically trolled the world by making Batman a groomer and having them fall in love. It does look weird that they would sort of touch on that side of that relationship in this even though it was a troll by Miller to write them that way... Also, another redhead bites the dust to woke casting. The genocide continues.
@@Matt-pm2sx I haven't seen too many cw shows but that's the general idea I get from it Flash had its glaring issues but was decent for the first 2 I think another reason for the early seasons being better is the smaller cast
Yea I ended up dropping it at some point just got sick of the drama aspects would be monologues and feeling shit for five fucking episodes with nothing happening
Conspiracy Theory: Marvel's been funneling in money to CW getting them to greenlight the worst possible DC series and hire writers fresh outta wattpad to destroy DC from within with these low effort fanfic style series
The theory is that Batman really is dead and the CW keeps making these shows to cover up the case. People actually reported seeing babies crawling away with what seemed to be like baterangs, police believe they are possible suspects, but again this is just a theory.
Flash had some absolute shockers as well. Look up Flash vs Solovar or Barry and Fuerza vs Psych. For poor fight choreography there's nothing worse than arrow season 4 finale of Oliver vs Damien.
It was so bad that the Gotham Knights game developers had to go out of their way to make a statement and let people know the game has no relation with the show.
"CW writes a high school drama with a superhero skin on it". This statement's accuracy is incredible, you'd think Charlie was the verbal version of Deadshot. His words never miss.
@@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470 its not incredibly good. It did fall off. I think it is a great show up until it starts falling off. However I also think it depends on what you personally like. It had a lot of drama and romance which I personally very much liked because it just made sense with a high school life except instead of a normal high school life he has amazing super powers and saves people constantly. I also liked how they developed clark kent not just in powers but also in his own character
Arrow, for all of its flaws, was probably peak CW DC stuff. They didn’t need that much CGI, the writing was good most of the time, the only people with powers that needed effects were the multiple Canaries and Damian, so they didn’t have a huge need for CGI that could look bad. Flash was fine at the start but slowly declined. Supergirl’s effects were too glaringly bad at the start, but as powers increased and varied it just looked crappy. Legends of Tomorrow has bad CGI, but honestly it kinda adds to the campy feel of the show.
Honestly Legends could have turned out better if they didn't go the alien route, but I guess the writers need to add more things to be a threat to the timeline for the Legends to fix
I felt the same about Riverdale, like why bother? Nobody who actually knows and likes the actual Archie Comics is going to want to see the characters and plotlines butchered, and nobody who DOESNT know them is going to care that their names are slapped on. So if you’re not appealing to an existing fan base and you’re not appealing to a new fan base, then who is this for?
13 year olds who will watch anything out of bordem (this doesnt actually happen cw is just out of touch and still think tv is the only mainstream media)
I love how in all the CW shows, whomever replaces Batman is just as good at fighting as Batman was despite having no martial arts training whatsoever. In Batwoman, the latest Batwoman (already a joke in itself, that one woman replaced the previous woman that replaced Batman lol) was a drug-dealer that stumbled across the suit, then started fighting crime the next day lol. In this, at least Robin shows up and was PROBABLY trained by Batman how to fight, and hopefully Robin will train the GOTHAM KNIGHTS (lol) how to fight, but I wouldn’t count on it. They’ll likely just throw on the suits and start stopping bank robberies. I mean, there’s no better way to honor your late mentor than by getting his son and a couple random kids killed by trying to stop criminals lmao.
The funny thing about that Batwoman thing is that i don't even think it was the next day it was like the same night AND on top of that she knew how to use the Bat gadgets effectively. The show was that incoherent and badly done in everyway that they never communicated that it was 24 hours between getting the suit to crime fighting or even her testing the gadgets
@@What.99 Yeah the scenes before that has the characters in dark rooms so you don't know if 24 hours had past between them and next time you see Nu-batwoman it's still night it's insane the entire episode (hell even the whole show) is like that. The entire show should be studied because it's a gigantic show case of how NOT to write anything
Idk about just as good. But they’re definitely trained as if they were by The League Of Shadow. At least Arrow just stole all of Batman’s villains and training
"One of them is the Joker's daughter"
I already know she's gonna be the silly quirky love interest and I hate it
8:29
Who the hell is out there having kids with the joker that's what I wanna know
@@randomusername1735 Even in the comics (where presumably the daughter would have been born before Joker became.. the Joker), He was like "Nah thats bullshit"
@@randomusername1735 Whoever was insane enough to, they are breeding some new kind of super mental disorder.
Random Username if they make it the same as the comics , which they probs won’t, she just calls herself that. She isn’t the biological daughter of the joker and never has significant interaction with him
"This is not made for fans of the comics."
This is not made for fans of television, movies, or storytelling in general.
News CW. Its not made for anyone.
BOOM! Truth.
"This is not made for fans of the comics." So, they already got an audience, and choose to not market towards them?
more like this is not made for fans of fucking breathing
This is not made for the fans of oxygen
*CW announces another superhero series*
“How many times do we have to teach you this lesson, old man?!”
*CW Producers*: "I love the young people!"
The sad thing is the old man is probably younger than the current cw writers 💀
6 or 7..I got dementia
My leg.. my leg.
Superman and Lois is really good and season 1 and 2 of flash and seasons 1 2 and 5 of arrow
I love how Batman has a bunch of adopted kids in the comics, they could have gone with ANY of them (Dick Grayson, Jason Todd, DAMIAN WAYNE WHO IS HIS ACTUAL SON) but no they come up with the a new, most basic ass character ever. Good job CW
Don't forget Tim Drake
not to mention his daughters, cass, and even helena, although she’s from another earth. theres duke, tim, like so many charcters in the main earth that are his kids and even more from alternate earths that could have been used, but instead we got this bitchy white boy. the only positive thing about turner is the fact they wont be ruining an already pre-existing character
I actually prefer making a new character, as we don’t have to associate the inevitable piece of shit show they produce with any of those good characters
Oh please if they actually did use grayson, or tim, or especially Damien or jason, they would just make them edgelords, way more than they already are
@@TerribleVA wait a minute where the hell is Barbra Gordon where is Alfred
“I’m pretty hungry and I’m pretty short, so why not go for some low-hanging fruit” is one of the best opening lines I’ve heard in a long time
He’s seriously good with word play
XD
STRIGHT UP FUNNY
The fact that Batman has a son who isn't combat trained is absolutely absurd it's funny 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
He's not even Damian. Why?
My god
At the very least Batman would teach him some basic self defense skills in case of bullies/muggers. I mean, they live in freakin Gotham city
Literally, like Bruce has high and I mean HIGH expectations for his comic accurate sons (like Damian and Dick), like do they think he'd just not bother with a biological son???
Im sorry they did what?
How da fuck?
Crazy to think that Power Ranger shows from 20 years ago have better CGI than CW today.
Yeah it was more epic than anything these days.
Power rangers cgi was hilariously terrible, youre just saying that because you hate the cgi now but it wasnt in any way better my friend, not talkin shit just saying fam
@@worldisfilledb cope harder
@@crispradt3811 relax, dont get so upset lol
@@crispradt3811 🤫
"Why do they keep doing it?"
My theory:
- Smallville was a huge hit back when it was WB
- Superhero content is already super rehashed and overdone, why not ride the train?
The writers behind these shows are geniuses. Imagine you wake up in the morning, pull down your pants, drop a massive shit on a page, then turn it into CW and they give you 50,000 dollars for it. Then they call you back next year and ask you to do it again. I call that a smart career path.
Money really does grow on trees for these writers, fucking geniuses.
@Kavetion Bots will never be better than real people, sorry.
I saw a bunch of fans of riverdale justify its bad writing with a theory that it's story was created by the main character himself as a bad self insert/fantasy, and that's why it's cringy. Basically saying "yeah the writing is shitty because it's supposed to be written in the style of someone who's bad at writing" These writers for riverdale have their fans coming up with conspiracy theories just to cover for their 7th grade level dialogue and plot twists, they truly have struck gold
@@beenis9842 I mean riverdale is a genuine masterpiece for how insane and dumb it is. It's like if someone ate jojo volumes and puked them on a teen drama and they unironically made it
they not geniuses, they relatives, they get 500000 and give 50% back to their relative who got them their job.
Imagine being a high schooler, your dad just died, then you meet some girl who you have a class with and she not only tells you that she knew your dad, but also that he called her “his little Robin”…. Like WTF 😂
And his son is also apparently not robin? Why didn't they just use Damian Wayne a pre existing character that IS Batman's son. Mind boggling stupid
"His little Robin" has my little maggot energy🚩🚩
@@arianalbert Noooo don't remind me
@@Bread-nx9fo they don’t have the rights to Robin nor Batman
@Savetion 🅥 bro wtf?
This makes me appreciate Gotham series a lot more, despite the problems itself had, still a decent series and after seeing this it's definitely leagues above this shit.
Plus their versions of the Joker were pretty damn entertaining.
Gotham was very entertaining and a really nice spin and just seeing Gotham in depth and how crazy it really is in Gotham. (It also had good acting and decent cinematography)
Don’t forget Titans 2018! Say what you want about it but the cast and crew put a lot of time and love into their roles and character arcs
@@laurenhatter6824 that's questionable
It still sucks though.
7:49 “There’s one thing they don’t have…”
*Cuts to an Applebees commercial*
Me: “THEY DONT HAVE APPLEBEES?!”
A little bit of chicken fried
@@HankThePimpHill A cold beer on a Friday night.
I have to respect the CW for giving me the most savage rejection I've ever seen in a piece of media. There is a scene in Arrow where Felicity is in a wheelchair because of a bad injury. Oliver proposes to her while she's in the chair and she stands up and leaves. Literally struggles through her wheelchair-level injury just to reject Oliver. This is peak television.
Lmao that's hilarious
Ahahahahaha I remember that. Iirc, she got angry because he didn’t tell her about his child. It’s such a petty reason to fight.
S3 end fight with Damian Dahrk was pretty bad too. They literally took turns punching each other (not even any special fight moves, just regular turn based punches) and Damian lost
@@posionwisp S1 and 2 were excellent, all the stuff with Slade/Deathstroke was awesome. S3 went way downhill and I gave up during S4.
@@mrdeftino4682 can’t remember what happened in S4, but I agree. Season 1 and 2 were really good, although I expected more from Deathstroke fight. (Biased towards Arkham Origins fight). I think the mayor arc was somewhat interesting for a bit…. Prometheus was a pretty good villain, then he got did dirty for his death by ghosts
@@mrdeftino4682 the flash was also pretty fun for 2 season. And I have a soft spot for season 1 of Legends of Tomorrow because of Captain Cold.
Everything else is pretty crap…
I’m calling it now, how much do you wanna bet that every “villain” the main cast face are just gonna be the sons and daughters of other villains.
Ratio + yb better + I didn’t ask + this you🤓🤓👶🏽👨🏼💻👨🏼💻
Gonna have the daughter of Killer Croc, and never question the logistics of him having kids.
To be fair, the "daughter of the Joker" is Duela Dent, who is an actual comic book character who pretends to be the Joker's daughter; that's not just some BS that CW pulled out of their ass
Can you imagine a baby Bane? Just a 'roided up toddler who takes omega poopies into it's diaper
According to the wikipedia article that is actually the theme of the show's premise.
Although Joker's Daughter isn't literally the Joker's daughter, that's just her villain name, so she doesn't actually fit that theme. Although this show is already making blatant changes to the Canon so that's probably not gonna be the case here.
Giving CW the rights to DC properties was the equivalent to giving the Fantastic Four rights to Fox.
*Utter embarrassment for all parties involved.*
WB owns DC and CW. There was no "giving."
@@RockandrollNegro yes there was "giving" because they could've given it to their partner HBO
@@RockandrollNegroOr used to half-own the CW because if you already or haven’t heard last year, Nexstar just bought a majority stake in The CW and Paramount Global reverted their most of their CW O&Os back as independent stations not too long ago.
Honestly, the early Arrow and Flash episodes really weren't bad. They definitely weren't anything amazing, but they were enjoyable and had some good moments.
They had interesting premices and mysteries at times, but I agree. It wasn't anything amazing.
Calling CW television is like calling Buzzfeed a news network.
Ok 👍
I remember being obsessed with Flash before it all went downhill
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@Savetion 🅥 no need to say please. I always laugh because he's funny af
im like you but better
batman getting killed by high school kids is about as respectful as aquaman dying by drowning
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This comment out-charlies charlie
Or the flash dying from eating too many burgers.
Don't forget Wonder Girl dying from literal electricity in Titans when she's supposed to be immortal like Wonder Woman
It's worse with the fact that he died by a GUN, the thing that he always avoids and is pretty "resistant" to
CW is trying to turn Batman into a discord mod with that fkin "He called me his little Robin" shit
outrageous
The thing is though, CW wasn’t always considered so bad. Once upon a time, many years ago, CW was only known for the first few seasons of flash and arrow which were pretty good. Unfortunately, it just downhill from there and they are now known as the worst tv network to exist
Superman and Lois is really great.
Yeah if someone else took the original idea of arrow it could of been good but nope cw had to ruin it
Meanwhile legends of tomorrow
@@ML-yn9yu Superman and Lois wasn't created by them, so it don't count
@@ML-yn9yu I prefer Batman and Peter myself
The supergirl CG is so funny. It literally looks like some middle aged executives just discovered CGI and went “no f**king way”.
Its kind of a shame. I thought the first 4 seasons of supergirl were pretty good tbh. but season five was just mediocre and season 6 is so repulsively bad I can't even continue watching.
The power rangers vibes are so nostalgic
@@jonathanbailey9777 none of it is good.
@@jao999 I mean I totally respect and understand why you think that.that's why I said that I personally thought they were good. season 6 was a dumpster fire but the final episode was actually a pretty nice send off for the show. its definitely not a great show but its a good time killer for the first 4 seasons.
@@jonathanbailey9777 You need to watch something better, mate.
Even if it is to pass the time.
This stuff lowers your IQ.
Cw script: villain: “yells in alien language, grabs groin and portals away”
That’s what I saw too, that must mean suck my sack (or alien equivalent) in his alien language
When Misha Collins walked into frame, all I could think of was Castiel 😂
Speaking of CW shows that got real bad.
Batman being killed by three kids is the equivalent of playing Super Mario Bros. and dying to the first Goomba.
the CW has done some crazy things
but making Batman die to a gun is the most disrespectful thing ive ever seen them do
@Savetion 🅥 I mean, if you hated him so much, why comment on every video? Disgusting pedophile+No good content+deserve to be a prison wife.
Batman could die to a gun if he was outside his armour. His plot armour that is.. since the plot demands it batman is dead
@Savetion 🅥 weirdo
I mean, that has happened before, but often through people finding out who Batman was and then ambushing him while he was out public as Bruce Wayne. Then you also have the fact that canonically, one of the main reasons Batman doesnt die to guns is because people assume the weakest spot on his armor is his strongest spot, when in reality, that part has very little to no protection from bullets.
If you're gonna kill Batman, you have to do it by either having him unprepared, someone having deduced his identity, or someone having deduced his weaknesses. Preferably all of the above. It's like killing Superman with a kryptonite bullet. Yeah, it could work, but it would be better if you gifted him a plant that has very tiny kryptonite dust particles in its spores first so that he wouldnt notice he was getting weaker untill he doesnt even notice the bullet had kryptonite in it.
The manner of death isnt disrespectful, its the road traveled to said death that is.
@Savetion 🅥 Jesus youtube desperately needs to do something about these bot comments…
Literally CW is just disrespecting Batman’s entire character, and that’s why I’m glad now that CW dosent even make a Batman show
They had batgirl which was borderline impossible to watch for how bad it was😂. Like I stopped watching cw after Arrow season 3 and I saw batgirl clips on Twitter and they was killing the show😂😂😂
yet
They deadass are bringing a show to the CW that is a prequel to another series they barely started. What the fuck
Thank god they aren’t writing any of the marvel shows if they had the license to that they would be doing constant crossovers with each dc characters and marvel characters and making up new ones that haven’t been introduced in the comics but only the show like super girls step sister 🤦🏾
They won’t make a Batman show because of how much hate they will receive and probably shut down for butchering the character
The only CW superhero show I can get myself invested in is late-stage Legends of Tomorrow because like, you can tell they don't take it that seriously, so it just feels like 2012 avengers "they all live in the tower and play mario kart" style fanfiction. Theirs an episode where they have to go bowling to save the world. It's just so silly that it's hard to be mad at it.
Very ironic and definitely negligence and carelessness that the writers had the kids admit that they broke in and stole batman's shit and got him murdered and then they become the crew with batman's son... Just wild. Thanks for sharing.
What a fucking intro "I'm pretty hungry and I'm pretty short. So why not go for some low hanging fruit here?" Jesus Christ this man cannot be stopped.
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Thank you the intro is so good
@Savetion 🅥 só your dad never loved you is what you’re saying
@@forgivezharion5704 🥺 omg pls don’t ratio him wahhh
@Savetion 🅥 Whoa whoa, you *don't* like quality commentary? How quirky and unique!
it isnt about making money, its about sending a message, thats why CW is still alive even after countless failures
So CW is the Joker network lmao?
@@Feynix4 CW = copium & woke
When you mean “message” you mean like lgbtqia and blm?
And what is that message?
@@averageperson5845 neither are messages. Just a massive cult following of "look at us". "look at us NOW or you will be exiled from society". Lmao. Both should be respected. But it was just an attention thing.
"he called me his little robin" 💀💀💀
It should be noted that Superman & Lois is genuinely great.
It's remained my top superhero show since it started, and I watch most of them, both DC and Marvel - though I've dropped several CW shows. Tyler Hoechlin is fantastic as Superman and I've seen so many people say he's become their fave, some comparing him to Christopher Reeve. It has an odd moment here or there and the CG doesn't always hold up to the impressive standard set early on, but it never dips enough to really drag it down. The balance between Clark's superhero life and home life and the genuine, realistic family dynamic is the core of the show.
Also, while it was very blatantly set up to be in the same universe as the other CW "Arrowverse" shows (Diggle from Arrow appears in season 1) they pulled a 180 on that and made it clear in the season 2 finale that it's separate from the other shows. In other words, this is a different Earth with a different Superman. It's upset some fans but I'd say it's for the better in the end. Gives them a fresh start.
I'd recommend it to anyone.
Daredevil is the best super hero show
@@mayonnaise3959 Daredevil is certainly cream of the crop, I was talking about current shows within the past couple of years though.
Very excited about Daredevil coming back, hopefully Disney doesn't screw it up.
I hate to break it to u buddy, but superman and lois wasn't actually made by the cw. It was made by HBO max.
@@JustanotherNPC8454 I'm well aware of that, but it still originated from the CW shows and Tyler's Superman first appeared there, so I wanted to point out that it's not exactly like the typical CW superhero show.
Batman has gone toe to toe with
The Joker, who tests his morals and pushes him to the limit
Riddler, who trys to make Batman seem stupid, and fails (maybe he wrote this)
Bane, who breaks his body
Poison Ivy, who trys to seduce him, and fails
Penguin, who is pretty much a good ol' gangster.
Who do the GCPD think killed him...
some teens who wouldn't look out of place at an emo con.
fuck that, Batman as literally fought an Avatar of Darkseid and WON, the man got a plan for every single super hero in the JL, including himself, has beat up the entire JL in a hush while they were infected with the Joker gas.
Comes the police and says he dies to some fucking TEENAGERS, HIGH SCHOOL TEENAGERS, NOT EVEN SOMEONE TRAINED LIKE A ROGUE ROBIN.
Imagine the pain and sadness these infamous villains are going through-
Honestly that would’ve been a funny concept. Villains who wanted to destroy Batman take on revenge on who killed him especially Joker bc there’s a ongoing joke that they fight like a “old married” couple for shits and giggles
Batman has defeated avatars of darkseid using hell bat as well
5:49 to 7:14 , the scene where the cops explore the suspects and Penguinz0s take on this.
@Kavetion “81 subs” LMAO
do they realize how unrealistic "getting bullied cuz your dad was batman" is???
Right? How is he not the coolest kid in school?
He would've been the most popular kid in the history of this school after it was announced.
Poor little billionaire. 😢
Also batman probably would have taught his kid some moves to protect himself without killing lmao
@@stev6963 Dont start with that crap now
Smallville was their only good super hero show
Conceptually, this could be a really cool idea for a show. A detective mystery whodunit centered around the death of Batman. It could be low budget and focus on the mystery aspect rather than throwing in a bunch of action scenes. I could see it working if well written. Too bad cw only knows how to make shit.
That’s the bizarre thing: the CW was exposed not too long ago for being entirely unprofitable SINCE ITS LAUNCH. Reports state that the channel hasn’t turned a substantial profit since conception even when they had Supernatural airing.
I hope this is all a money laundering scheme, at least then they'd be good at something.
a lot of the CW affiliates get profit from there news, Syndicate shows, and TV reruns (also shopping programing) such as KTLA 5.
also WGN in Chicago got rid of The CW and there still doing great.
Supernatural was they're one hit wonder
and i forgot to also add this but they also get profit from there subchannels (ever since 2009 when the Digital TV Transition TV stations have been allowed to air more than 1 channel, instead of just channel 5 you have channel 5.1, 5.2, and ect.
Misha Collins is bouta be the only reason why this show might get through at least 1-2 seasons.💀
5:18 why was bro wearing a suit😂
You know what's insane, a show about the rest of the bat family having to step up to Bruce's legacy after he's dead would actually be a good show, having night wing struggle to fill his boots, having red hood go on a rampage, having red robin and Batgirl try to find who killed him, seeing robin try to keep to his father's teachings even though he's not there, seeing Catwoman slip back into thievery but that's not this
You know it’s bad when a comment comes up with a better concept for a Batman show than CW
That's honestly what I want the next Arkham game to be. Just each character dealing with it, their own way. Some of the villains could rise in the empty void that Joker and Scarecrow left. Maybe they change their ways. It's something I liked about post-Arkham City, was that there was this void left by Joker.
I think it’s cause they’re just trying to do like Robin War but in game format or tv show format.
The battle for the cowl actually exist in comic book lore. Batman was believes to be dead. So the former Robin's couldn't decide who would be batman. It's one of the better arcs in terms of Robin stories.
@@TitusAndromadon Right that’s the one I was thinking of, Robin War is something else lol
I am stoked for when their version of "IT'S MORBIN' TIME" comes out.
Place your bets:
- IT'S ROBIN TIME
- GO' HAM NIGHTS
- WE LIVE IN A SORORITY...
Sorority... Bruh, take my like, this comment needs to be bigger. lmao
LOL
WE LIVE IN A SORORITY OMFG LOL
Not we live in a sorority 😭
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i got your sponsered GX video right when you were talking, got me confused
For all of the CWs awful shows, Supernatural will always have a place in my heart and is one of their few shows I regard as good. But they probably held a gun to Misha Collins' head in order to film lmfao
It turns out the the CW has literally not been making money since it started. The only thing keeping it afloat was Supernatural and not long after it finished it came out that they are going bankrupt. I have a feeling the only thing that will keep Gotham Knights alive is Misha Collins.
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I don't watch television at all anymore, or news about new shows. Misha Collins is gonna be in this trash show? I kinda feel bad for him. What's his character?
@@HaliaxOfTheChandrian twoface
@Savetion 🅥 cope
@Savetion 🅥 sometimes suicide isn’t the worst option
"They can't even accidentally make something watchable."
Probably the most true statement of All Time
What about Superman and Lois
Edit: didn't know it wasn't made by them but that's a good thing I'm still hoping it won't flop.
@@T0e-Man wasn’t made by them
@@T0e-Man that show slaps but they did no make it it just airs there
Didn't they make the first 3 season of the Flash
@Kavetion no one is better than anyone in this world all human are equal,you have no enemies
I do love that there's an ad right below the video saying, "hungry?" And the first words in the video is, "I'm hungry." Top notch ad placement.
Comparatively(I’ve seen more than enough other shows, good or bad, be talked about to death), you don’t see a lot of videos talking about most CW shows, partially because so many don’t even care enough to even make a video about them and their disasters these days(there are exceptions, but that’s just what they are in the grand scheme of things), so I appreciate this.
Seeing Misha Collins absolutely killed me. The CW will never let this man rest huh
Poor Cass
@@nicholascernatescu6685 this may be a hot take but I never really liked Cass. He was fine at first but just got super annoying in later seasons. Also he was killed like 6 or 7 time and they would always bring him back for no good reason.
@@vengefultiger7797Fans love him so they brought Cass back. I personally like him a lot tho
ikkk most of the time i watch shitty shows cause i find my favorite actors in them but often it's not worth it
@@gordonlove5121 Bobby :c
Flash and Arrow were decent for a couple of seasons but MAN they fell off quickly
@Hollow To be fair S1-S2 is kinda great, the rest is abomination
@Hollow Nothing will beat Arrow 1, 2, 5, 8 and Flash 1, 2. The most entertaining things they did. The crossovers added some spice too
Yeah at the time they were really really great. In retrospective they’re just decent. Those shows came out at a time when superhero shows weren’t really a big thing. Then Daredevil came out and changed everything
Flash was a hot mess with way too much incest. But it was still fun to watch man go fast and the corniness made for good cringe comedy.
Godspeed is such a bad villain holy shit
In the comics he is another speedster who can steal the speedforce from others so he hides hes intentions until he can be powerfull enough to fight the flash
In the series he is so "WAHAHAHA THE FUTURE IS NOW MINE"
Like holy shit how can they take one of the best modern villains in DC and make him be such a generic bad guy?
The cw show he came up with at 6:55 sounds more funny then any of cws actual shows lol
4:54 they got castiel from supernatural in this? shii i might have to watch it😭
the worst part is that they aren't even using any of the robins or batgirl; you know the, characters that actually make up the Gotham knights? if you can't get the actual characters don't make the show!
What did u expect from the writers of Batwoman
In the cast list I saw one of them is supposed to be Stephanie Brown, who was both a robin and a batgirl, but something tells me the that they're gonna pay ZERO respect to the character and she'll end up as bland as every other person they've written.
I actually really like some of the characters they've chosen to showcase here. I just don't trust them to not turn them all into edgy sex-crazed morons.
@@FireAce413 im still puzzled on why Damien is not the one thats the main character
Give us Batman beyond dammit
@@3Guys1Video Batman beyond life action or another show?
I think they really want to get the next Riverdale. Buy a franchise, use only the characters names and maybe a little bit of their physical appearance, and then do literally nothing else with the source material. To the point that buying the licensing rights was a complete waste of money and could have been an original series all on its own.
Riverdale worked because it was based on a comic that's not widely known by this generation. These superhero shows are never going to work unless they follow the source material relatively closely. DC comics and their heroes, especially Batman, are still insanely popular, and fans don't like when you mess with that stuff too much. There are certain liberties you can take, but the CW takes hot dumps all over these characters.
Ironically, Riverdale is also a CW show.
@@superflashyariel3835 that’s their point I believe, see @Jace N ‘s reply
What they fail to realize is Riverdale isn't anymore. And forgot the fact they fell off at the end mutable times
@@anikejulien7273 Wait what?
He didn't know that his dad was Batman....
But he knows how to access the bat cave?
They got Castiel in on this???? C'mon man, he doesn't deserve that
Facts
They tried to emulate the greatness of Tommy Wiseau's writing, but never with a chance of success.
You also need everyone to be Tommy Wiseau
Oh hi Mark!
Hey thats an insult to Tommy wiseau!
I think the saddest part is that the CW keeps good actors out of movies and shows with more potential like Misha Collins. I wish he left the studio when Supernatural ended
The absolute range Misha's shown in SPN was impressive like he would do wonders in more thriller movies if you ask me
poor dude. my man deserves better than this shit 😭
I think most of CW actors aren’t that bad. They just have fuck all to work with.
Misha is so talented and can pull off anything from comedy to family drama, sad to see him in this.
Same with the guy who is Harrison Wells all the time, he is the reason I kept watching. And Cisco was basically a comedian for a long time.
Hearing that that is Harvey makes me wish they at least made him Two-Face telling Batman’s family out of respect.
Here I am not even knowing what the network is.
To be honest, every Superhero movie/show is now obsolete after Morbius made Morbillion dollars in Tickets
Ok 👍
I agree
Want a morbius comic..? 😶
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@@pleaseclap5210 Issa bot
I cant wait for the iconic line in this show
"I'm the Gotham Knights"
"No, Turner, we're the Gotham Knights."
It's Gotham knightin time
We’re gonna Gotham Knight all over you, Joker
ITS KNIGHTN TIME
It's Gothamin' time
can't wait for Michael Morbius to appear out of nowhere and morb their morbing morbin's out
Holding junk to teleport....LEGENG
they did the same thing with timeless, they were afraid they weren't gonna get season 2 so they tossed Misha Collins in all their promos for awhile and it worked, it saved the show. I'm guessing anyway since they did get a season 2 lol and he was in less than 5 minutes of the episode.
The “Superman and Lois” series is actually quite good, but that’s because the CW didn’t actually produce it. HBO Max did. It just airs on the CW.
Definitely agree. I also really enjoy Stargirl, and yet again it wasnt originally on CW
Superman and Lois is the only one I watch now smh
Lol
thats not actually true.
True, Superman and Lois is pretty good.
I agree with Charlie's statement that the writers are well in their 60's writing out of touch crap for 14 year old teenage girls.
The worst line the CW's ever written, apart from the infamous "It will be when it fits a woman" line is when they had a kid say "10 is the new 16", I am convinced that everyone at CW is a groomer.
"I am Convinced that everyone at CW is a Groomer"
I heard people say They had Naomi, a Child, having every mofo trying to hit on Her.
CW Writers have some issues, I swear, cause they have The Flash being obsessed with his Adoptive Sister and then Marrying her.
Then, they decided to go through a Comic Book and have Superman's Relatives Marry each other.
I have no words for them 💀💀
@@baligong3592 Naomi is a weird one because everyone is obsessed with her.
In the show, she has no flaws and no character development at all, she's so boring to watch. So why are all of these people obsessing over her?
@@0x00Fyou
She's basically a Character at the end of their Story Arc but being placed in the Beginning.
It feels as if CW Writers either Lacks a Brain to put their Thoughts into Words, or they think Dangerously, no in-betweens
The youngest writer for the show is 37, and she also wrote for Batwoman. The rest look like they're in their 40s. They really have no idea what they're doing.
@@baligong3592 I knew I wasn't alone in thinking it was beyond weird that Barry and Iris had step sibling incest romance arc.
the "three kids of left warped tour early" line got me
"There's one thing they don't have"
*8 seconds of near deafening silence*
"Batcave"
Batman is dead, and the GCPD immediately suspects minors to kill the Dark Knight Detective himself.
Batman has been long around to the point that he's dead now, but Harvey Dent still isn't Two-Face after all this.
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Like CW isn't even trying anymore.
Unless it's been actually confirmed to be Two-face then it could be Harvey Bullock instead, who would already be too old anyways at that point to show up that young, same applies to Dent
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Two Face is in the show they shared an image of what he looks like and he’s built like 2/3 face
I’m pretty sure that’s Harvey bullock not Harvey dent
Just like the ''real life'' they are trying to fabricate.
People will now say that Gotham Knights is absolutely one of the shows of all time, but now we can also say that CW is one of the networks released in television.
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It could be one of the shows of all time..
@Savetion 🅥
*(Hits you in the ribcage with a metal bar)*
@@forgivezharion5704 Yeah we're an Emoji wearing glasses baby guy on laptop!
Just stop. That joke's not funny, you aren't funny, nobody asked, do better.
"You can't just claim Bankruptcy (Copyright), Michael! (Charlie)" xD
I just imagine every once in a while a guy with a smug look just walking into the meeting room in CW office and just saying what if batman was dead
The 90's Power Rangers looks like AVATAR compared to CW shows.
Power Rangers had a good amount of seasons that were well written in comparison to anything CW has to offer
@@christiananddanyell Power Rangers was bad?
R/Based
Whoever said power rangers was bad?
@@kenobigaming5755 no one. Comprehend!
Theory: The CW exists solely to make all other forms of super hero media look better by comparison
I laughed, but holy shit what if you're right
"maybe if Gotham Knights is painfully bad, people will think Morbius will be good in hindsight, that'll definitely work."
@@Charolette21 morbius is the movie of all time dude
@@Charolette21 it’s morbin time
@@chrisdiantonio7622 Let's Morb out y'all!
Reminds me of the scene in S4 of arrow (crossover) where Felicity got mad at Oliver for not telling her that HE had a child he didn't know about .... literally 5 hours after discovering it and she got mad, and the worst part - She said "I don't think this relationship can be built around a lie!" when she lied to him ... far more
That “Batman” feels like the beginning of the dark knight when Christian bale says the hockey pants line
The type of shows that CW dishes out makes the storywriting, dialogue and special effects in Morbius look like it’s a once in a generation cinematic masterpiece.
But... MORBIUS IS A CINEMATIC MORBPIECE.
@@iexist.imnotjoking5700 memes aside, sadly it ain’t
@@commitstopbreathing9045 that's why the meme is so effing hilarious
not to mention they just recently cancelled a number of shows and now they're still coming with even worse shows
Hi
I read the cast list and they literally just took a bunch of characters from scattered comic book arcs and timelines and put them into one show as a team. Like, the girl that said she was robin is Carrie Kelley who isn't supposed to be robin till Batman's in like his 50s or 60s.
Doesn't Carrie Kelley exist in another universe too? Lol
@@sinistralhydra I have absolutely no idea, I wouldn’t be surprised, but I know she’s primarily from The Dark Knight Returns.
Carrie is s great character... And now they use her like that?? 🤢 Omg
@@sinistralhydra yes and no dark knight was in a way the "official" future for a bit so no but that was like 3 universe reboots ago so yes and she is like op said not robin close to anyone else
Joker should take some notes from those kids
Batman got to have a record for the most "kill off screen" character
CW shows be like...
"Man of Steel's Glasses"
"Batman Begins At School"
"Alfred Builds A Car"
"Gotham Knights At Day"
"The S*x Life of Bruce Wayne"
Alfred builds a car would be a banger
@@FriendlyBlender tbh i would watch alfred do anything
Alfred making the bat mobile sounds cool
@@FriendlyBlender its called Gran Torino
“Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.” This describes the CW so well.
- Vaas montenegro
-nacho
A better idea for a show would've been an alternative timeline where one of the members of the batfamily offed Bruce and we the viewer and the main character most likely being knight wing would have to figure out who did it.
CW goes out to the garbage bins of story telling and find the worst iterations of comic books series they can and use then to make a TV show
"He called me his little robin" The ONE scenario where this would be remotely ok was if this was his daughter. But its not. Batman has a son. The main character. And she says some point in the trailer that she lives with her mom. So she isnt and adoptive child of bruce at all like some of the other robins. So now it just looks like Batman groomed this highschool girl. No wonder he died. He was the shittiest PoS Batman ever. And Batman was already a PoS to his robins. So CW just continues making Batman shitty. Like why?
Truly a 💀 moment
Him calling her my little Robin = Him grooming her. What ?
She's suppose to be Carrie Kelley's Robin. Looks like she may have taken up the Catgirl moniker from DKR2. Which is interesting because Miller basically trolled the world by making Batman a groomer and having them fall in love. It does look weird that they would sort of touch on that side of that relationship in this even though it was a troll by Miller to write them that way... Also, another redhead bites the dust to woke casting. The genocide continues.
@@juliangrant9718 woah, calm down there Hitler.
@@TomMKW how creative and fresh to embody the definition of Godwin's law...
CW's The Flash should have ended a long time ago. But they need to milk the cow dry
In my opinion the cw dc shows peaked at arrow season 2 then it was a slow and painful decline to well frankly shit
every single show they make is ok for 2 seasons and then falls off
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@@Matt-pm2sx I haven't seen too many cw shows but that's the general idea I get from it
Flash had its glaring issues but was decent for the first 2
I think another reason for the early seasons being better is the smaller cast
Yea I ended up dropping it at some point just got sick of the drama aspects would be monologues and feeling shit for five fucking episodes with nothing happening
The only CW show I’ve ever cared about was Arrow. Anything else never worked or gone off the rails very early on.
I used to really like the Flash, but it just... didnt
The money they make showing those LifeAlert and "As Seen on TV" commercials is really paying off at the CW.
Conspiracy Theory: Marvel's been funneling in money to CW getting them to greenlight the worst possible DC series and hire writers fresh outta wattpad to destroy DC from within with these low effort fanfic style series
Possibly true.
Hey this is crazy, but im gonna watch this theory with curiosity
After endgame I don't think marvel needs to since they already finished the competition.
@@gamebond6248 Marvel has proved since that the CW is legitimate competition for them.
@@stupidanon5941 you are living up to your name so much right now
The theory is that Batman really is dead and the CW keeps making these shows to cover up the case. People actually reported seeing babies crawling away with what seemed to be like baterangs, police believe they are possible suspects, but again this is just a theory.
Oh no … next time Batman is “dead” it’ll be a show about the Gotham knights as babies, fighting the deadly nap time
@@ivanl2366 dude I'm glad someone else hates stupid dumbass baby shows as much as me
@@ivanl2366 JLA babies would be more powerful that this batman
Flash had some absolute shockers as well. Look up Flash vs Solovar or Barry and Fuerza vs Psych. For poor fight choreography there's nothing worse than arrow season 4 finale of Oliver vs Damien.
the misha collins jump scare
It was so bad that the Gotham Knights game developers had to go out of their way to make a statement and let people know the game has no relation with the show.
Wow, you are right, there was a news article a week ago.
Good
im still hyped for the game. sad to know that this may taint its reputation.
"CW writes a high school drama with a superhero skin on it".
This statement's accuracy is incredible, you'd think Charlie was the verbal version of Deadshot. His words never miss.
They did amazing with the highschool thing of clark kent when they had smallville starting up years ago before they started turning to shit.
@@DeltaDrifter2201 I personally didn't think Smallville was an incredibly good show either.
@@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470 its not incredibly good. It did fall off. I think it is a great show up until it starts falling off. However I also think it depends on what you personally like. It had a lot of drama and romance which I personally very much liked because it just made sense with a high school life except instead of a normal high school life he has amazing super powers and saves people constantly. I also liked how they developed clark kent not just in powers but also in his own character
6:15 don't forget he was apparently killed from gun shots. I don't know if that should be logical or not.
You’re jokes killed me in this one Charlie!! I was dying
Arrow, for all of its flaws, was probably peak CW DC stuff. They didn’t need that much CGI, the writing was good most of the time, the only people with powers that needed effects were the multiple Canaries and Damian, so they didn’t have a huge need for CGI that could look bad. Flash was fine at the start but slowly declined. Supergirl’s effects were too glaringly bad at the start, but as powers increased and varied it just looked crappy. Legends of Tomorrow has bad CGI, but honestly it kinda adds to the campy feel of the show.
Most of the time till s5, after s5 the show fell off
Honestly Legends could have turned out better if they didn't go the alien route, but I guess the writers need to add more things to be a threat to the timeline for the Legends to fix
superman and lois is also really good because its mostly hbo max but its technically a cw show
Arrow the first and second season we’re good I don’t remember shit after that
@@private679r.i.c.o4 season 7-8 was great imo
I felt the same about Riverdale, like why bother? Nobody who actually knows and likes the actual Archie Comics is going to want to see the characters and plotlines butchered, and nobody who DOESNT know them is going to care that their names are slapped on. So if you’re not appealing to an existing fan base and you’re not appealing to a new fan base, then who is this for?
13 year olds who will watch anything out of bordem (this doesnt actually happen cw is just out of touch and still think tv is the only mainstream media)
I used to soothe myself that it’s AU, but damn they just destroyed it. I can’t even say it now with a straight face. 😂 😝
i heard riverdale is one that gets so ridiculous its good-bad
@@sapnupua5 I heard they get fuckin magic powers or somethin
As someone who didn't read the comics, I enjoyed Riverdale.
You get an upvote just for that opener.
Wait so Batman’s son isn’t even his Robin?
I love how in all the CW shows, whomever replaces Batman is just as good at fighting as Batman was despite having no martial arts training whatsoever. In Batwoman, the latest Batwoman (already a joke in itself, that one woman replaced the previous woman that replaced Batman lol) was a drug-dealer that stumbled across the suit, then started fighting crime the next day lol.
In this, at least Robin shows up and was PROBABLY trained by Batman how to fight, and hopefully Robin will train the GOTHAM KNIGHTS (lol) how to fight, but I wouldn’t count on it. They’ll likely just throw on the suits and start stopping bank robberies. I mean, there’s no better way to honor your late mentor than by getting his son and a couple random kids killed by trying to stop criminals lmao.
The funny thing about that Batwoman thing is that i don't even think it was the next day it was like the same night AND on top of that she knew how to use the Bat gadgets effectively. The show was that incoherent and badly done in everyway that they never communicated that it was 24 hours between getting the suit to crime fighting or even her testing the gadgets
@@phantomgoblin5540 Oh really? I never actually watched the show, but I’ve seen plenty of stuff making fun of it lol.
The thing is, this isn't even robin. It's a new character by CW
@@What.99 Yeah the scenes before that has the characters in dark rooms so you don't know if 24 hours had past between them and next time you see Nu-batwoman it's still night it's insane the entire episode (hell even the whole show) is like that. The entire show should be studied because it's a gigantic show case of how NOT to write anything
Idk about just as good. But they’re definitely trained as if they were by The League Of Shadow. At least Arrow just stole all of Batman’s villains and training