The QUEST for the perfect 1 person, 4 season tent goes on (via sharp edge)
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- Опубліковано 19 жов 2024
- Tell me about your perfect, lightweight 4 season tent. Is the Lightwave Sigma s15 THE HOLY GRAIL?
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Hi dave, love how you an Josh hugged at the top ❤ being able to express love to family members without embarrassing them 🤣 is priceless. I have a Euruka TPOC 1 person tent, its heavy but a tank of a tent about 6lbs🤣 its US military, bought it new from USA. Excellent materials in this tent, the fly is totally blacked out, they stopped making them as far as i can tell, and opted to make a lighter version.
He's a great lad and thanks for thectent tale!
Having had the S15, the S22 and the Scarp 1. I only have the Scarp left. The S15 was a good tent but the entrance was too small and for multi day trips, once its wet it gets very much heavier. Once the materiel wets out it can no longer keep water out. So for trips when you don't expect multi day rain it's a great tent. Ventilation is through the fabric. The S22 was even worse and the design allowed water to get in, in any rain. One tip on the Scarp is on the centre guy line, add a tracking pole to raise the pull and definitely put a short length of shock cord on it as with strong wind it will rip at that point (check out other users). Other than that the Scarp is the one that I still have. On one trip it rained so much I was lying in 2 inches of surface water and not a drop came in. Great video and keep the Scarp for multi day but the S15 is good for single day trips.
great insight Bob and thank you for this, reluctantly however, I really feel the S15 has to go! Along with one or two others!
nice to see you out with your boy
all too rare Jimbo
Lovely video,Dave.
I camped there in 95 using a Robert Saunders Satellite Plus. Thanks for bringing the memory back 🙏
You are welcome Andy, thanks for commenting again my friend.
Wanted to let you know that Nortent sent me the new poles this week without charge. I had purchased VERN 2 in May after watching you Andy review them. My email to Nortent went out when I saw your updated video saying they were shipping the stronger poles presently. They could not have been more accommodating. Thank you for the information about the new poles.
Great to hear Peter!
Very happy with my Scarp. The tent I used before I got the Scarp (and still can't bear to part with) is a Hexpeak V4A - a very capable shelter, just not quite as comfortable. If I'm expecting settled and mild conditions though, I take a Notch for the weight saving.
Aye, the hexpeak does look great. I have a pyramid shelter I have not tried yet from pomoly. Thanks for commenting David.
Swapped out the awesome, bomb proof but cramped terra nova southern cross 1 for nortent Vern 1 original. Only a little heavier than 1.5 but way more space than sc1.
Good move I would say
Makes a lot of sense that mate, is the original Vern 1 freestanding? The new Vern 1 looks great but way too heavy to be worth it unless you're off to the arctic. I have the Southern Cross 1, truly amazing tent but you're right about room. If they just made the Southern Cross another 10% to 20% bigger it would be amazing. Id also have them replace that stupid red pole with a colour better for covert wild camping when you are on farmland or private woods, a nice autumnal bronze would still look cool and contrast with the green but would blend into nature way better.
@@freddiemercerful hi pal, it's not free standing with the crossing pole it's semi free standing but I don't always use it. I can use wide mat too which didn't fit sc1, 6 nights in it I'm happy so far, not had it in much wind tho👍🏻
Trekkertent phreeranger looks interest. I have a lightwave tent and it's brilliant.
Thanks Robert, which lightwave do you have, and why brilliant?
Thank you for your videos, love them👍
For me: laser compact as. Durable and strong reg. snow and wind (48mph was my exreme). Well ventilated. Spacious enough for winter gear and 12h inside. High enough at the ends to not touch it with the down bag while dreaming heavily, which is rare in the
Thank you Arswie, the AS keeps cropping up, but that pole sleeve puts me off a little! Glad you enjoy the tent, i must reconsider.
Interesting colour combo.
Have you ever looked into the best colour for blending into this sort of environment? I know most will say browns and greens but colours like light grey for instance can work well and even the greyish blue that GoOutdoors have brought out in their 'UL' range. Sorry to go off topic on this vid but your green and black combo tent made me think.
I enjoyed this comparison but am still looking for one myself as I still can't decide *too much choice.
Cheers.
Get you, I just accidentally bought another on ebay last night. As for blend, I really like the slat grey of the earlier Nortents and hilleberg sand. I kniow what you mean about the OEX ones, its a grey blue, but would prefer more grey than blue. I just dont like red! Horrible inside, horrible outside! Thanks for commenting.
Owned a Sigma and it’s not a 4 season tent. It leaked in windy rain and my pole snapped in a gust of no more than 40MPH. I sold it after 3 single night camps and bought a Hilleberg Enan which is sold as a 3 season tent but is probably tougher than both tents in your video but fits into the 1.5 kg bracket.
Ok, thanks for that, gives me the worries!
Me and heights are not a thing, although since I got back into wild camping, I'm getting better. Great video enjoyed it very much at 6am this morning lol
Have a look at my striding edge video, there are 20 tips on progressing to a ridge!
Interesting tents. Great place for camping whit newbies, maybe some fishing too.
Nice trip and tents. Thank you.
Our pleasure Christian.
The Terra Nova Lazer Compact AS is 1.7kg but is a very spacious 1 man 4 season tent that also has great ventilation if you need it, that's the one I went for and as a taller person it works very well for me.
It's what works for you then perfect! I think there will be a lot of that on here, all good!
Great video love seeing new tents. What paramo top you wearing looks really nice.
Thanks Mark, that's the velez evolution smock in moss green. If you get one they are snug fitting, I had to size up to XL.
Great cheers looks good quality.@@Fellmandave1
i think i would only take the single skin tents if they have "drainage" systems like the trekking pole tents with mesh gutters / airflow - like that of the xmid 1 pro, tarptent, z-packs plex/altaplex or the Lanshan pro 1. i think with tarptent's models, you can close the mesh up with some sort of nylon and drawstring.
My main issue is that if condensation comes down off the fly and ends up in the bathtub, it's an instant fail. this is partly why 2 skin tents are nice, since you wont get condensation invading the bathtub (the naturehike vik 1 is bad for this, but is a nice tent in general).
If the above is the case with the tent you are testing (or even the possibility of it happening) then i would chose the scarp 1 all day long.
I agree, yet I want to sell the lightwave on, but something stops me. I guess the desire to find it's limits.
@@Fellmandave1 UA-cam wants to see nothing less than limits tested!
Now I feel like a Gladiator in a pit, listening to the roar of the crowd!
@@Fellmandave1 haha now i'm imagining gladiator battles in a giant bathtub floor surrounded by stands filled with crowds creating gail force winds
Love my s15
Trying to get into it. Not selling yet. What window of temperature, season, and wind do you find it good for?
@Fellmandave1 in warm weather, I tend to leave the door open. I've really not had it out in extreme winds, but it's been happy in 20 plus as long as it's guyed out
Dave If you are interested in doing a part ex with a Rab Mythic Ultra (TILT) version in size L and its that grey colour with the orange inner and some cash i will be happy to do a deal on the S15. I have only worn the Rab once for a few hours so its like new
Nice offer but no thanks Olan. I'm going to give it a few more tries. Besides I've got more down than the Park Lake.
@@Fellmandave1 No problem Dave, i am sure you will appreciate it more if you never had to concider Honey. Its definitely worth putting a mid panel guy out point on the Sil nylon panel which i have done to both my lightwaves because that stretches when its wet and the wind can blow it in significantly reducing your vestibule space. Re your formula personally for the weight it's the most useable internal space that i have come across on a 4 season tent in that category . I have the Unna too so i am going to see how the S20 copes next winter compared to that but not having used the XTex material in sub zero conditions it remains to be seen how this material can cope when its frozen over on both sides 🤔
Cheers buddy. Roll on winter!
Hi Olan, I'd be interested in your jacket if you're looking to get rid of it. Please let me know if interested. ATB
Dave...any chance of a review of the new "Gas burner Storm" (gb77) from Trangia? Now 100% made in sweden, parts are supposed to be avaliable to make it more sustainable, and the regulator is redesigned which looks like it will work with an inverted cannister (a big weakness of the last model). Question is...will it burn in liquid feed??? (If so it might be worth its money 😊).
Hi Martin. Not much of a trangia guy to be honest, but thanks for the suggestion.
The Lightwave is interesting but you would have to work hard to beat the Scarp 1 Ultra - the new material is brilliant in the rain
Hi Nick, how do you mean brilliant in the rain? Quiet? None stretch? Just not sure about the bedsheet white personally.
@@Fellmandave1 I does look a little bright in some conditions 🤣. But the material doesn’t absorb water - so on multi day trips it is much easier to live with (you can dry it off,can leave inner attached and don’t soak the inside of your rucksack!) It also seems to be better in the wind - although I don’t do crazy conditions so not sure it would manage those
@@Fellmandave1 I forgot to answer - it doesn’t absorb water - so no wet tent in my rucksack🙌. It does make a lot of noise in the rain though 😬The white material is less bright in most conditions than you would think
Yeah I’d ditch the lightwave,looks a bit vertical any sort of wind would have that 👍.✊🙏❤️👌👊😎
Not so sure John, more testing to be done!
UK "4 season" Scarp Ultra, although it's generally too much tent, so really only a 1.5 season. If I was only going to have 1 tent it would probably be 3 season, my Notch Li solid sees the most use, although I do have a Dipole DW on the way, that might be a better "if I only had 1 tent" option, time will tell.
You got the trick question, can a tent be 4 season, or just best for 2 soecific seasons? There is a new tarptent coming too eh? The arcdome.
@@Fellmandave1 a true 4 season with snow skirts and so on would be of almost no use in the UK, it is a bit of a pointless designation though, in Lanshan terms it just means an 80% solid inner. It's one of those marketing terms that mean nothing like 1 man tent, or 40L rucksack. The arcdome looks interesting, Durston has somthing similar in the pipeline, but I'm a convert to trekking pole tents, I've not camped on sand or rock, so not needed a freestanding tent.
Tramplite (under 800g inc 9" Easton stakes)is the best 1 person shelter IMHO handmade in the UK .. sadly Colin Ibbotson isn't making any more for the time being!
New one on me! Thanks for contributing.
Had a look at the company. They look really good. Dam Brexit.
@@Fellmandave1 Colin was just a one man band, as his website suggests he only made gear when he wasn't trekking!
His gear was made to the same standards he worked to as an aeronautical engineer...ie exceptional.
Then Brexit came along....
Keep a look out on the "Treklite" forum, they do crop up occasionally.
I can see why Josh's legs were tired😀
Just a big softy!
is it true about the poles on the s15 being difficult to get in their eyelets or gromets ?
Yes, b ut no worse than any other of that type.
OneTigris Stella 2 😂 Don’t laugh it’s almost bomb proof. Not the lightest option but excellent bang for the buck.
Nice one Brad. No laughter from me.
With the Scarp tent don't those loops flap about in the wind and make noise?
Just use a loop of elastic Andy and clip them to that, problem solved.
Barents snota 1 !
Looks good Andy and only 996g, 3 season though!
Love the hugs ❤
He's still my lad, even if he is 6'2"!
Hilleberg Soulo for winter/foul weather camping (Google Soulo vs Storm Bella westonfront)
Yes but how about the none foul, lighter days?
@@Fellmandave1Hilleberg Enan