TURBOLAMIK 8HP70 Auto Trans CLUTCH PEDAL SETUP
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- TURBOLAMIK 8HP70 Auto Trans CLUTCH PEDAL SETUP #clutchkicks
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Hello. Thanks for your reply. I have seen a of your videos but on the linear potentiometer it does not say the closed lenght and the travel lenght as haltech have quite a few options and for the e46 I dont know what to order lenght wise close and open . Because you had one mounted on the e46 maybe you could give me some advice on the 2 aspecte. Thank you
respect anyone with a mullet and does CAD models 👍
hahaha..... bascially the uniform of a true engineer.
Think they will sell a ton of the dipsticks if priced well. Everyone has been complaining about the electronic dipsticks for a couple of decades now. Only on issue is a simple way to code out the electronic dipstick, if this could be done with a dongle and take next to no IT literacy then it would remove the main barrier to purchase.
Very good points.
Big up for Dan the man for allowing all this content , he seems happy go lucky type of dude. All that technical jargon so early in the morning 😅
Yeah, i am very thankful to be playing around in his shop.
I will definitely order 6 dipsticks to start installing on my customers cars and work our way from there.
Great solution!!! Can’t wait!
Awesome!! Where are you based?
The dipstick is an awesome idea!
And it’s so cool watching you’s all play cars together, I love it!!
haha, thanks man, its wild being in this shop.
Hell yeah, that’s awesome!! I wish I could drop by one day!
I would LOVE to finally have a dipstick on the n54. Brilliant idea really.
When i first saw it, i was like, YES that would be so much easier and quicker on an oil change. But then you think about times i have been at the track, you pop in to let the car cool down and checking the oil is a proper pain with the electronic one and i always forget.
yes definitely will buy the e92 dipstick as soon as they are available.
Awesome! We are going to need to get the production ones pumping out sooner than later i think.
Crazy cool! I'm so happy you're back. I hope for good this time! The shop could be on it way to a lot more business with mods like these IMHO. Love it!
You and me both!
I love the idea of a manual dipstick. That's an awesome idea Dan.
Glad you liked it!
love your work guys. getting me more and more keen to get one of these swaps done!
Wow. Really loving this series. I'd love to also have one of those electronic dipstick deletes. However I'm all the way in South Africa.
The idea is to keep them relative easy to mail out, so hopefully we will be able to sort you out with one.
Hey Andrew! So glad to see you and the shenanigans you're up to. I got 3:28 into the video and had to pause.... YES! I want that. I honestly never imagined typing these words, but I would very much like a dipstick. I have an N54 E82 with a 6HP. Please kindly ask Dan where or how I might pay him for one. lol
No worries, i guess we need to get the e9x e8x version finalised asap. Will update the channel, when they are available to order.
Great video as always Andrew 👍 Things you can do with the right tools and knowledge! I'm slightly jealous you will experience 2nd best thing to Koeningsegg CC850 automatic gearbox with manual mode much earlier than me, but I still have so many other things to learn about my car and new setup that this time will fly! Just got 1st revision of maps from Ken and now I have all MHD+ features enabled, with 4 maps and FlexFuel scaling on one of them. This thing just keeps on giving me the thrills 😀
Awesome to hear your car is progressing after its fame last week :P.
@@ZeroTo60TubeSuccessful shakedown uncovered a reason for funny AFRs and STFS's. I had a leaky injector which eventually gave up completely a week later 🙃 I will DM you a hot video 😉
Need the N54 E90 dipstick yesterday! brilliant!
I would buy a dip stick but it needs to be priced reasonably
Yeah, we have seen this version from the UK for the CS motors for 575gbp and a much more simple part than this N54 one. We are hoping this n54 one will be around $500-$600aud. Maybe less if the interest is there. The more they make the cheaper they get etc. www.apmotorsport.co.uk/product-page/bmw-m4-gt4-dipstick-kit
100% would love a dip stick on my n54 e92. Awsome stuff
You guys are going to sell MILLIONS of manual dipstick conversion.
I want IN !!! 2010 E93 N54 LETS GOO BABY !
Count me in for an e82 n54 dipstick and the e-clutch setup. Would love to use that on my upcoming swap.
What trans are you putting in and what controller?
I'd really like to here how the simulated clutch works/is tuned in the trans. Are the solenoids PWM, are you actuating transmission clutches with the converter clutch locked, actuating both, line pressure control, shift strategies with the converter locked or unlocked, etc? I'd love to hear the nitty gritty details for how it functions from a technical standpoint and what kind of power you can put through the trans on boosted launches and "clutch kicks" without blowing through the clutches or having significant wear over time.
There's no way to sugar coat this. We dont know lol. From a user standpoint all you can control in the correlation between pedal potion and percentage of clutch the TCU sees. We have no idea what stageries are in place in the tcu to make it all work. However as you will see in the next video. It feels like a real manual clutch.
Id buy a dipstick.As long as coding out the electronic one could be done in a relatively simple way.👍
thank you dan. and yes i would buy one
What do you think is a fair price for a billet price mated to a universal dipstick? Takes about an hour to make the billet section at the moment.
Wow, these guys are great fabricators! Thanks for sharing. Dutch regards, Nico.
Thanks for watching man. It’s been such a good learning process for me being here
There are so many different sizes of belleville washers and stacking configurations which would enable for a more compact an adjustable solution than the valve spring...but really love the what do we have laying around that will work for now..always nice to see another 3d cad person getting dirty as well lol Looked like it was solid works?
Man, i couldnt believe how they did this with basic scrap haha. The belleville should work, but getting the right ones to work with this partcular master and slave cylinder will be tricky. The adjustability on the valve spring was an eye opener.
Would definitely go for a dipstick on my N54
Awesome! We are going to need to get the production ones pumping out sooner than later i think.
dipstick good idea. keep a few in stock at all times...
That's the plan!
Nice e-clutch stuff :)
I actually swapped a N54 oil level sensor into my S55 because the ECU i used (Maxxecu) can read it in realtime, so i made a few strategies in the ECU and it was really good!
But if not using Maxxecu i would defenetley go for a manual dipstick!
Does the maxxecu still take time to calculate oil level or can you get a reading quickly?
@@ZeroTo60Tube I don't remember exactly, but it's like once every second :)
@@nissejarnet Well thats better than waiting like you have to with the idrive. We have got a couple of Maxxecus coming, so might have a play with that as well. How is everything going over your way? Any new builds on the horizon?
+1 keen on the DS
Might be keen on the dipstick in near future, especially with the JMC kit going on soon. What does Dan reckon he’d want to sell them for $ wise? Could Dan supply instructions to Wedge for what needs to be removed/updated in the map, Ken would probably know already tbh lol.
I’m thinking of doing a very special price for the g members. It will be much less than the other options currently out for the s55’s
@@ZeroTo60Tube I’m interested in one as well for my e90. What are G members?
Matt, there's not much I could imagine Ken wouldn't know about N54 tuning. This would take him less time than putting sugar in his coffee!
@@danielb9134 Yeah I was thinking that was a silly question hey haha. Need a spin on the dyno soon!
@@azatranzport1117 G members are huge part of me being able to run the channel. They pay for the membership and we have a group chat where the behind the scenes stuff gets spoken about. Ken from Wedge is there. Austin from NXS. If its happening on the n54 platform the g members know about it before anyone else :P www.buymeacoffee.com/zeroto60tube/why-i-buy-me-a-coffee
Please consider making making a manual dipstick for the f30 n55 and b58!
I was short to ask you when you'll pump out the next video, actually I can't wait for the next one😅 the dipstick idea is really great! The thing about that I really wondered was the clutch mechanism and I was shocked when I saw your first variant😅 but yes the other idea sounds really great! I'm absolutely curious how it'll work out in real life!
Hopefully have it on the ground soon!
These videos are awesome 👌
Thanks man! Really appreciate it
I’m sure Dan is expecting me to comment & say I’m interested in the dipstick, except my N54 is in a Nissan Chassis & I now have the exhaust on that side of the engine sooo... hmmm...
lol
That clutch idea is awesome! Also that n54 dipstick is sweet, would love one when I get a new n54 car!
Right on!
Brocks also got the scan data for the f80 s55 too!
Ohhrly?
Excellent work all around mates! Do you happen to know which valve springs your team settled on for the feel you preferred?
every n54 needs a oilpangasket anyway so why not built one directly in the pan so you can have both the dipstick and the sensor, and do the sump pans on exchange basis.
Brock was working on a design that incorporates the factory sensor as well. It’s a little more bulky than this but not too bad. Main reason no to do the full sump version is the cost of posting a sump. It would be redic.
Building my 04 325i wagon into a 330i wagon 6 speed manual!!! I’m old school I want a dipstick
Very interested in that dipstick kit he has in development! Definitely solves of the most annoying features of these cars!
Hopefully have some e9x e8x test units done this week.
Super cool stuff they are doing in there! Excitement level checks out a little low l😂 need to CNC a coffee machine in there.
bahaha noted. The reality and dont tell anyone, this is filmed after a day of real work and frustrating problems that all workshops deal with, so sometimes the enthusiam for the day is done and I go around poking a camera in everyone face :P
Hi Andrew, is awesome! You guys are about 3 weeks ahead of me putting this style set up in my 8HP 2j powrer wrx drift car. What travel length did you choose for the haltech linear position sensor? Also why not delete all the moving parts and make a spring style set up inside the cabin to achieve the same result?
Probably because he wants it to look like an oem inside the car. Id say as of right now, youll peobably need to only produce the additional stuff to the n54 cylinder and thats a dealkeeper for a lot of people. You can give them a list of needed oem things plus this thing there and bam it works. Otherwise as you mentioned, youd be in need to produce a complete activation mechanism...
I haven't even watched the entire video but I want a dipstick! Yesterday prefferbly.
Awesome! We are going to need to get the production ones pumping out sooner than later i think.
I'd buy one for sure n54
What chassis is yours in?
I honestly HATE the electronic oil level sensor. Wish they could’ve just added a dip stick anyways. I would honestly think about getting the kit!
Hello mate. Great content. I also have an e46 with lamik tcu and I wanted to install the haltech linear potentiometer on the clutch pedal. Can you give me some advice regarding the best lenght for the potentiometer for the e46 ? Thank you
Was thinking about all the little aspects involved with my swap and actually thought about the oil level sensor. Was thinking I’d need to read via obd. Would be interested in the dipstick for sure. I’d like to see a version that retains the electronic dip stick as well. I realize moving the e dipstick down would cause it to read lower. Possibly a different sensor that has a taller level sensor? A quick looks shows that part number covers A LOT of different bmws. My second idea would be to modify the “tune” for a different range what it considers full and empty.
There has been some work dont on a version that retains the original sensor. However it is a much more bulk part, moving the original sensor over to the side and maintaining the same level. Its been shelved for now, but may look in to it, if the interest is there.
@@ZeroTo60Tube yeah it would be more or less just like a low level warning before a low pressure warning would be a nice feature to have lol. Like a cooler like is leaking and you’re losing oil driving down the road.
The dipstick appears to be well designed and manufactured. It would certainly be better than the electronic version. I would see the N54 community getting right behind this product.
Thanks for the input ken!
I most def want the dipstick thingy if the price is reasonable.
oh i need one of those dipsticks for my n53
Definitely in for a couple dipsticks.
Awesome... i guess we need to get the production ones happening asap
Nice vid
I would need a N54 version of this bad boy.
this series is awesome making me consider this for my r32 just need to wait on the 8hp to gtr kit to be released
I’m super impressed with the lamik for being used in this way.
This dipstick wants a dipstick 👍would like to see the electronics still part of the assembly though..
So there was a design that encorperated the orginal sensor. Its been put on the back burner for now, as it requires a much larger billet piece and will be a little more expensive. If you are serious, send an email to zeroto60tube@gmail.com and we could maybe get you on a beta tester for the version with the sensor. Just a heads up the sensor version will be around the $600-$800aud mark.
👍Enjoying this 😁
Glad you're enjoy it!
once this is all finished can you get it serviced at a BMW dealer. id just like to watch the techs face as he works out wtf hes looking at :D Just say you just got it off gumtree, and you think the clutch is slipping.
This question has probably been asked already. If you do a clutch pedal like your doing do you have to use it all the time or will the 8hp still work as an auto.
Thanks
I really want to see how long the trans lasted. Really want to do this for my destroked Ls e82 swap.
Would love to hold of one of them dipsticks! Using my 135i coupe as a competition drift car it’s annoying with my car as I run a syvecs s7 I don’t even think my level sensor works. 100% would but one of them
Your setup is exactly the type of situation where these things are a no brainer.
Would buy the dipstick
Awesome! We are going to need to get the production ones pumping out sooner than later i think.
i want a dipstick! haha
Does it have to be a potentiometer? My driving simulator pedals use load cells and have adjustable dampers built in and that would make it as simple as mounting
Anything that outputs 0-5v
Hey guys I shared this video on multiple Facebook groups here in the United States hopefully it gets some traction for the oil dipstick mod for n54s
Ohh man......... thanks very much for sharing the video!
Wow beard is super black, like you have been tailgating a 320d with head out the window
Lol, just for men hair vanity.😂
Guys i gotta hide the greys somehow, doing this stuff is stressful.....
@@ZeroTo60Tube hopefully it all comes together with a major sponsor and some space in the workshop, keep up the great work
Yes I need one please
Would buy dipstick. E90 335i n54.
Awesome! We are going to need to get the production ones pumping out sooner than later i think.
I would buy dipstick yes please
Having a dipstick would be awesome, what would you need to delete in the ecu map from keeping the car from freaking out?
Apparantly its a setting, like when telling the car not to check for cats.
Dipstick looks fantastic. If these are available for an N55 in a 135i I am in - I assume Dan can alter map in on MY 11 models?
I will need to check with the map on the N55, but im sure its possible. Once the N54 is all finalised the guys do have plans to work on the later models. N55 B58 and S55.
when i build my next car. e30, e36, e82. regardless. will have an 8hp so i can smash gears.
I cant wait to hear this rowing the gears with a shift cut, its gonna be mega.
cheap linear potentiometers.. i guess you could use old turntable pitch shifter slides?
The dipstick is awesome. N63tu?
I mean anything is possible. If the demand is there, i am sure they will be able to make something that will work.
12:45 what software does it use for 3d parts? :o
I can’t wait to see the final result, Will you be able to slip the clutch or is it all or nothing with the electric sensor?
Full slip ability between 1 and 100%
I’ll send you money now for the dipstick.
I would like to purchase the dipstick conversion for a e90 n54 car.
Awesome! We are going to need to get the production ones pumping out sooner than later i think.
Are you able to make a video about the direct inject delete, I’d love to make my n54 more reliable
Yes absolutely. We are going to convert a few other cars in the next 2-3 weeks, so heaps more info incomming.
Id buy a dipstick
Dumb question, but do they make one of them fancy manual dipsticks for the E60 535's? Because I don't trust the electronic dipstick on a 500+ hp heavily modded car.
Not yet, but no reason why it can’t be worked out
@@ZeroTo60Tube Awesome, I'll be here when they get one figured out.
What about using a much stiffer clutch pedal return spring and doing away with the hydraulics completely?
I think the hydraulic is going to be cruicial to get the feel right. In a factory clutch you are limited by how fast the fluid flows for both depression and how the clutch pedal returns.
I was toying with idea of putting clutch on the steering wheel F1 style, just don't have enough time till next year to try it out. But saying that, I still think having a pedal is my first option.
What's great about 8HP Lamik TCU solution, there is nothing stopping me from having both pedal and steering wheel clutch leavers at the same time ;)
I’ll send you a pm.
@@ZeroTo60Tube another way to do it is get a small accumulator on the end of the master cylinder line and just change the pressure inside the accumulator to suit how u want the feel, probably be a lot easier to dial in n smaller to!
We have a drifter here in SA using a virtual clutch in a DCT car & he’s just using mechanical springs in the pedal assembly itself to achieve the right feel... I’m going to see him to test this for myself before deciding which way I wanna set my 8HP pedal up I think.
What these guys are doing here looks amazing, but pretty complex & pricey (if you’re not someone who can just make it yourself haha)
Is Brock related to Benny? (Mechanical Stig for MCM viewers) 😂
I dont believe so.....
Isn't there an oil temp sensor in the electronic dipstick also?
On the other cars dan has done this too the oil temp still seems to work.
@@ZeroTo60Tube I think that oil temp sensor is used to tell when the car is warmed up for oil level sensing and the m3 cluster rpm gauge.
Great idea on the dipstick, how much would it be
Depends on qty made. We are thinking between $500 and $600aud on the final kit.
I would buy two dipsticks lol
Awesome! We are going to need to get the production ones pumping out sooner than later i think.
Why not use a clutch spring for the replica clutch?
Didnt have anything on hand, but is an option for sure.
would order several dipsticks for are cars n54 versions, cost?
The whole thing will likely be around $500-$600aud as a retail package. Maybe less if the order numbers are high enough.
Thanks for the videos, there isn't much content on these swaps in english. Looking to do an awd hp95 swap on my project 3000gt. I remember you mentioning turbolamik connects to can bus, is that just bmw canbus or would it work with aftermarket ecus namely Haltech? Also do you know if turbolamik can shut off the transfercase for the front wheels? Cheers!
The lamik can work with a lot of canbus versions, actually it just needs définitions. And if you followed the video you saw last video that they did not setup can correctly but initially it would have been there for the haltech. A lot of people using maxxecu etc...about the transfercase...if I remember right that it has some xdrive things or they are working on it. Otherwise there are other solutions out there for this too!
@@maxgr7723 appreciate the reply! Just catching up on content. Thanks!
Max covered it well. Lamik will link to the haltech, but you will need something else to control the transfercase.
@@ZeroTo60Tube appreciate it! Until now I thought it was an all in one unit haha. Guess it's back to research.
@@ttgtomr BEYTEK on youtube is doing a awd RX7 conversion, i think he has done the working out on the transfer case, worth checking out his stuff anyway. He is using lamik for transmission and maxxecu for transfercase.
I wanna buy that for the n54
The clutch or the dipstick? Why not both….
@@ZeroTo60Tube I am looking into getting another n54 car to dct swap actually but the one I have now is manual so I’m going to keep it a true manual
I would be interested in a dipstick-system for my N46 4-cilinder engine. I do not know whether you have these in Australia….
We do have them in our 320i models. However programming out the factory one, so you dont get errors may be tricky.
Where can I buy that dipstick for an e90 n54
I will let everyone know when the retail versions are ready to go
Hey guys, I know this question comes a few years late, but did you ever get the additional power of the fastchip RStuner verified by dyno? I picked up my own RS 265 after watching some of your vids on the car. I'd really like to get it to 300hp and it seems like the most cost effective way to get it there. Cheers
The rstuner kit is epic. Its supposed to be around 295hp ish, but i was very happy with the kick in midrange power regardless of peak numbers.
@@ZeroTo60Tube Ok, 295hp is close. And you had the downpipe on the car at that point? Any other performance mods? Thanks
@@Rbraden no all factory hardware apart from air filter
Where do we buy the dipstick kits?
Hay man!!! While we have these in a few race cars, both us and the owenrs didnt realise, when you remove the oil level sensor the oil temp guage on the dash switches to coolant temp.... Nice little fail safe on BMWs behalf and the race cars guys dont care anyway as long as they have coolant temp to keep an eye they dont care. But really these only work for guys running aftermarket ECUs. If that suits you shoot me an email 8speed.au@gmail.com
Will you be making one for the n63
Making what exactly?
You should make them for all n5x series motors. I hate having to wait till I’m driving for my car to be able to tell me how much oil my e90 n52b30.
I would absolutely buy one if I knew it would fit on my n52???
hmmmm, i have a suspicsion the N52 will take this kit. However coding out the errors will be a little more tricky.
@@ZeroTo60Tube as long as I can figure out the coding in protools from beemergeeks.?
@@eriqrosado3337 on the n54 its in the DME tune so im not sure if its something you can do with beeamergeeks
Any idea if anyone had put the 8HP70 with the BMW M62 in the e39 540i?
Yes lamik has done a few. ua-cam.com/video/XxQfInHd3_M/v-deo.html
@@ZeroTo60Tube dude that's awesome! Yea I reached out to lamik and just need to email their sales guy for a quote. Thanks for the video! That's gnarly!
Anyone with half a brain would buy the mechanical dipstick tube if it were priced decently. And considering you mentioned the s55 ones being pricey, I'm assuming you would price them decently. I'd say they'd sell well.
Is there a version of that dipstick for an F10 535i N55?
Not yet, not yet. But once the N54 ones are done, we will look in to n55.
is dans forum handle ducky? the powerglide car from back in the day that broke all the quarter mile records? can you send me one of those dip sticks? my car is on maxxecu and i have 0 way of telling oil quality or level. i change my oil twice a week to be careful lol. ps. check your email.
Duck! Yes thats him, he's still the fastest man to drive a true street N54 down the drag strip. We're bringing that car back soon and ghassans record is in our sights. Just in case you didnt know, with the Maxxecu BSD addon, you can check the oil with the maxx. I was just talking to a guy who has it checking oil level much faster than the factory computer as well. That said a dipstick is a no brainer really.
The Hellcat isn't a genuine Zf, Chrysler bought the plans from Zf and Chrysler does its best to F up perfectly good plans and cheap out.
Do you know how different they really are?
@@ZeroTo60Tube never had a Chrysler 850RE (what they call 8HP50 etc) torn down but @Gary Ferraro have torn some down and the 850REs look like a Alibaba copy of a 8HP (actual Zf 6HP21s were made in China) but Chrysler calls their trans a Torqueflite 8.
@@igotaction To be honest i didnt know about the 850RE, but have done a fair bit of reading on the 8hp90 in the helcat and 8hp95 in the trackhawk. I was under the impession they are the real deal.
Will dip stick work on 535i n54?
Ohhhhh, we would need to do some working out. The fuel lines are the issue on the e8x and e9x chassis. As long as there is clearance in that area, it will work on the e6x chassis.