GHOST's Tobias Forge interview on Satan, Sabbath & the future of metal
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GHOST singer Tobias Forge sits with Sam Dunn for an interview about his influences including the Devil, Alice Cooper and Black Sabbath, Ghost's place in the future of metal - and why he's still doing this filmed behind a curtain even after he's been "unmasked."
Live photography by Daniel Williams
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My favorite thing is how you just KNOW that Tobias is wearing a leather jacket with all the squeaking leather
I don’t think he’s never wearing not wearing leather outside of the Cardinal or Papa lol
With the nerdy patches. I mean that with love. I'm nerdy too, I respect it.
This guy has always been my favorite metal journalist
Hands down, the best interview, with an interviewer, who did not interrupt Tobias. Listened to what he had to say and cared about the musican and was very knowledgeable of him and their music.
One music lover talking to another music lover who happens to also make his own music.
@Lucas Robinett not my first time hearing of him or watching his interviews. You're right in him being a great interviewer and music historian! I had first heard and watched him on Metal: A Headbanger's Journey.
this channel really is great
i agree. This interview was the best. Sam Dunn shows his professionalism here. Very well done. Ghost is my top favorite band. Keep going!
We learn when we listen. Can't learn shit when you're talking.
that tiny moment where tobias referred to the cardinal as "cardi" made me insanely happy. it also totally confirms he definitely lurks online for ghost discourse. hail cardi c! and the papas and of course, tobias.
Alyssa Garrow i freaked when i saw someone named Papastrello following my Ghost board on Pinterest. when i clicked on the person it was not linked to anyone. Papastrello is the wine Tobias started selling. 🤔
@@christybusch3298 interesting
His speaking voice is so profound. He should read a book on tape for audible under a pseudonym.
If he does it as the cardinal, I'd buy it
Sam Dunn is such an awesome interviewer. He's extremely knowledgeable about all things metal and just does things the right way.
@Mark Webster
Well he made a youtube documentary about the History of Metal Spanning from Black Sabbath to Nightwish maybe even Trivium and Bullet For My Valentine
I’ve seen all of Sam’s public available work. He’s educated and to the point. Unlike many interviewers now days, he just interviews like fan. The teenager who fell in love with the music is tamed through the adult who conducts the question maturely and joyfully. I like his interviews.
He's pretty solid but nothing spectacular and considering how much shit passes as an interview, I am happy with this.
Nothing but the utmost respect for Sam and company. So many interviewers are interrupting air heads with limited attention spans. (Looking at YOU Chelsea Handler)
The difference isn't just that he's a fan.
It's that this whole metal empire started as an anthropology project, so he also has an innate curiosity to see what makes people tick, as well as ask "why?"
When two passions can feed into each other so well, it makes for some excellent content.
He's such a well spoken guy, great interview.
One of the best interviews with Tobias !
Oisin McPhillips Lucifer appears as an angel of light. Stop being fooled by cheap tricks child
@Paul Michael How?
I'm not flattered
Many metal guys are quite intellectual and Tobias is extremely intelligent
He speaks really good English I can hardly tell he’s Swedish
Right? It's confusing to me because his character as Papa Emeritus always had a accent.
only idiots speak a foreign language in their own accent. and hes no idiot.
@@Neo_Geisha I think it's deliberate due to the fact that he's playing a Papa/Cardial character.
@@christiankloos1384 native
I grew up Finnish/Swedish in Minnesota. And the accents are really "fresh" if thats an appropriate word for it. And in Finland they require language versatility, and I am sure Sweden does the same.
Psst, guys: this interview was filmed before the band's Toronto show, in December. Before he unmasked for that other interview. Does that make any more sense? :)
BANGERTV - All Metal I do not understand why he does that I wish he would just do all interviews like this one I do not give two shits about who he is or what he looks like or just do interviews dressed like the cardinal
Where were you with Tobias in that interview?
Great interview, much better than the horrible Iheartradio one... goodjob
@@gabrieldrumi-grudco2405 Banger HQ here in Toronto
@G We know it's Tobias because we recognize his voice ; )
two smart metal fellas having a chat. good stuff.
They really are fart smellers
A wasted opportunity for a good shadow puppet show, but still a great interview.
As a musician and someone who grew up loving the same material from the bands that he loves, this man is MY hero.
One of the great traits that puts Ghost above most Metal bands (from my semi professional musician perspective) is that they incorporate great melodies and harmonies with their music.
They don't just get up there and vocally bludgeon you with growling, screaming, and shrieking.
You can’t compare this type of metal with death/blackmetal.
I guess I should start taking English lessons form Swedish people
I do learn English from Ola Englund, no kidding :D
I can't disagree, honestly. I've been noticing some incredible lyricism lately, and a ton of it comes from Swedish bands.
I've had Transatlantic Blues by The Night Flight Orchestra on a repeat a bunch lately, that opening verse is fucking poetry.
@@xdeathsrk In many countries other then the states, you learn a second language from a very young age, if you practice it regularly, you can become perfectly fluent and keep working on your vocabulary. Most Swedish probably don't speak english that well, for sure.
I'm from Finland and I guess both countries teach English pretty closely as much but damn our pronunciation is closer to Hydraulic Press Channel than what Tobias here does!
When I read Opeth's lyrics I start to think that I don't know shit about English.
Whether you like Ghost or not, this is a great interview and I have a huge amount of respect for Tobias. Plus, his English is better than a lot of English-speakers. Props!
Most Scandinavians are superior in many ways over us Brits
Someone who doesn’t like Ghost? Bet he likes Biden. Mental problems there.
Excellent interview. Tobias seems like a very interesting, well education, spoken person. The character that he portrays just works. I would love to see a full length movie on Tobias and Ghost.
"well educated"
Someday, we shall see an epic film of the band that is Ghost.
My Feeling Exactly. What an Actor!
Tobias did all of the interviews as A Nameless Ghoul so there are a lot of good interviews with him from the past as well.
I love how reserved he is personally yet how explosive he can be once he gets on stage.
I could sit all day and just listen to Tobias Forge speak his wisdom to me. Such an interesting person.
Him and so many others. Marilyn Manson, Rob Zombie, and Alice Cooper (not necessarily in that order) at the top of my list, along with Mr. Forge.
Awesome, just awesome. A lot of metal elitists shit on Ghost but i genuinely love what they do. I am so glad Tobias mentioned Queen and the Doors, those are obvious and great influences.
A lot of Metal elitists shit on everything, because metal elitists are just the worst.
@@Th0rvidTheViking which metal elitists? So far the best of the best in metal adore Ghost. Except for the butcher KK.
@@LCRLive687 I'm talking fans, not fellow musicians. I know how popular Ghost is among their contemporaries. Those fans though who seem to think that they are the be all and end all of what is and isn't "metal enough" are everywhere, and they are the absolute worst.
Even tho i didn't love the last album, they're still one of the best metal bands working today.
It's okay. We know those "metal elitist's" like Ghost undercover. They feel like they have to stay really hard and hard. I personally don't consider Ghost as today's metal anyway.
Tobias is so smart, and well spoken, I really admire his qualities. Plus he seems to be interested in any form of art.
9:40 when a music historian like Sam Dunn says Tobias is the one to carry the torch of rock and roll into the future? Holy shit.
All hope is gone
A worthy torchbearer
Disagree.....no way..Too bad the latest release blows..i was disappointed...
He is, and the reality is there are bands coming up like The Struts and Greta Van Fleet. Bands that you've also never heard over with kids in the 20s. Love them and cherish them. Listen to them, and give them a chance. I'm in a Punk band that takes a shit ton from Motorhead. I think Rock really needs to pretend the 90s didn't fucking happen.
I just love that he said "Cardi".
Cardi C was canon, i wonder if Popia will be too
This has to be my favorite interview with Tobias. The way he talks,when he's finding the right words. His take on making music, his view on making a show and the future of music. It's hard not to feel a pretty great level of respect for the guy. And all those things just make me enjoy his music even more. :D
This interview could last longer... It was going to a very interesting direction
my first thought after ending
I saw this comment at the start of the interview and was like "ok, we'll see..."
Then I just listened to it very fascinated and when they started to wrap it up I was like "hey, is it over already?!"
Never heard of Ghost before, but he's an intelligent, articulate guy, and he has a lot of interesting things to say. Nice interview technique too.
listen to infesstisumam. entire album. best shit.
They're really good. They're closer to hard rock or old school heavy metal, but they're great
Opus Eponymous and Meliora are also amazing albums.
So does he worship Satan or not
@@johngreen7138 According to his more recent interviews-no.
such a smart articulate guy, love his knowledge and reverence of Rock/Metal history
I'm not a big fan of his music but Tobias seems to be a well-spoken and likable guy!
Their latest album is AMAZING. There isn't a dud on the album, and it's so mesmerizing that you are compelled to listen to it in its entirety each time you play it.
I just wish this interview could have gone longer
This dude is a rock ‘n’ roll thespian! straight up!
Tobias needs a great interviewer, and this time he got one.
A very good interview, possibly the very best I’ve ever seen. Intelligent questions asked and then time given for coherent answers. Extremely well done on both sides. This should be the template for all interviews, the main stream media could learn how it should be done.
Totally agree!
Could listen to this man speak all day and he gave me my life back and my love for music and my passion for playing guitar again. Thank you Tobias and thank you ghost
Would listen to this for an hour at least. Great interview!
I dont even care about the topic. I'll listen to Tobias speak about anything for an hour at least.
I’ve never heard of this guy or even listen to rock but was suggested for some weird ass reason. I prob still wont even listen to Ghost or this style music but I think it’s cool he speaks so passionately about his influences and carrying on the style.
It's not even close to his heavy as you expect, and totally worth a listen. Give it a spin
Hiding his face is not weirder than Sia who we also know how she looks like, yet she covers her face with a wig.
Pardon my English, I'm Swedish like Tobias. ^^
Ia L it’s literally perfect. No need to apologize. 😊
I think this is the first interview with Tobias where they didn't interrupt or ignore him. It's amazing. Finally, can just sit and listen.
PS, I could fall asleep to Tobias Forge's voice.
Just saw this for the first time , there is no one better to do this interview than Sam Dunn. 👏👏👏
Thank u for this interview 🙏🏻
Great!!
Ghost is one of the few bands that "grew on me". I did not like them at all when I first heard them. And I'm a long time rocker/ metal head. I kept hearing people talk about how great they are so I kept going back to listen. Now I listen to them a lot.
So happy to hear Tobias intends to achieve much more in the years ahead...I can’t get enough Ghost! 😈
Excellent interview, thanks for doing this. Ghost is my favorite new band and I hope we get to see more of the unmasked Tobias.
Everything an interview should be. Thank you.
Great interview !! Thanks so much !
Looking forward to the new material and the new album GHOST \,,/
He's a very eloquent speaker. Listening to this interview relaxed me.
Awesome interview! Ghost is a damn good band. 🤘❤️👍
Musical Genius. Period.
One of the absolute BEST interviews with Tobias I've seen. Swedish or not, Ghost (and Tobias) is absolutely great. Top fucking notch entertainment!
Definitely one of the best interviews with Tobias I've seen.
Awesome interview guys!
Best interviewer of metal artists. Period. I love his interviews, reviews and documentaries. So knowledgeable, so well researched and very informative.
Great interview. Have more like this on BangerTV.
norwegians, swedes and danes speak great american/english.
We grew up on american tvshows, musc and movies and have had english in school since age 9....
This is the first European I’ve heard with an American accent, I’ve never heard any swede or Norwegian or anyone in out there speak American English. Anytime I see an interview of a band member from those areas, they always sound very British
@@thatsoobguy That's weird. I basically don't know any fellow Scandinavian who talks in a British-English accent.
@@gabrielbolinder-skanfors5328 You know what you're right, I just looked up a bunch of interviews from different bands from Scandinavia, and they do seem to talk American English, except with an obvious European accent.. there ARE some words they pronounce in British, for example "all"
Tobias Forge though, sounds 100% American, coming from an American
My God I absolutely love this man! Tobias Forge is one of the most intelligent, kind and down to earth people in music. This is the best interview I've ever seen, Banger TV you guys are awesome.
Incredibly insightful. Fantastic interview!
Great interview, I only recently started listening to Ghost, but I've gone out of my way to watch every video, listen to every album and I plan to go see them live in August.
They have definitely skipped the line to become one of my favorite bands in a very short time. 🤘
Absolutely amazing interview!
Awesome interview Banger ! thanks and cheers from Cleveland .
ghost made me listen to rock again i fucking love the old vibes
I was really, really, REALLY waiting for Tobias's entire head to come forward when he went for the handshake... it would be pure Ghost, absurdist humor.
I'd like to know Tobias thoughts on Blue Oyster Cult as they seem to have a big influence on Ghost and their my favorite classic rock band.
I'd love to know this too esp in a non accusatory way. First i ever heard Ghost in 2013 i immediately thought "oh it's like BOC but heavier" i wonder what Tobias would say to this.
Absolutely...
It almost feels like interviewers are avoiding it. Like it's on par with telling Greta Van Fleet that they sound like Zeppelin. The difference is that GVF are using the first two Zeppelin
albums with little to nothing else as their foundation. Ghost's sound is constantly evolving picking up new elements with each album. However, Ghost retains that mystique
aesthetically and lyrically that's so much in common with BOC. Ghost's first two albums were much closer to the BOC archetype though. So, I don't think bringing that comparison
up now would have anywhere near as much of a negative connotation than it would've in 2013. Plus, Tobias was totally cool with the Sabbath comparison.
they're your favorite, not their.
I hope BOC sees a resurgence in interest as the word gets out about the similarity! I have been following BOC since 1976! Ghost has given me a new genre of groups (Swedish) to explore and listen to! Can’t wait to see them in concert!
An excellent interview yet again Sam. Two well spoken men with great passion exploring art via questions.
I just started listing to ghost and I'm 51 i love discovering new music.
Awesome interview Sam! Loved it!
I wish this interview could've been a lot longer! I could listen to Sam and Tobias talk for hours. Great, great, great interview! Finished the interview wanting MORE!!!
His comments on Sabbath are spot-on
At last a worthy interviewer. This guy is great!
I could have listened to an hour & half podcast of this. Great interview
i could have listened longer
Good ole toby. Great interview man
I've missed this type of content. I always enjoyed it.
Greeeeeeeaaat interview Sam ... So insightful as always. Loved it. Love how Ghost is growing bigger. Love their music. We need more such bands with distinctive sounds. More torchbearers for the future of rock and heavy metal. 🤘🤘🤘
HE IS THE GHOST WITH THE MOST! ✊😎👍
Taigan JinQui lol any other Daughters fans here?
@@KabochaOu depends on what kind of girl you are lookin for. I search for women. 😎😆
@@taiganjinqui5750 Wow I guess I walked right into that one huh
😅
He has everything
Damn this interviewer was a refreshing taste of good lol the last few guys who interviewed Tobias sucked
Great interview!
Excellent interview 👍🏻
What a pleasant surprise and very well led interview after that horrible one on French TV! This was really interesting, thank you! I really appreciate interviewers who find out as much as possible about the artist before the show. Big thanks again.
Fantastic smart interview, more of these please!
Ghost single handedly saved hard rock and metal music. They are the most important band of the past 20 years.
😂😂😂😂
Really great point about bands not only being good players with good songs but being brave with it is often what makes albums stand out. Don't forget about maiden they spent from 1975 to 1980 driving up and down the country and sleeping in a freezing cold green van playing tiny clubs. You can't say they don't work for their success. They seem to have a genuine fondness for their fans which just makes them more popular. I think Tobias seems to have that understanding that they are actually his greatest marketing tool. Since I saw them I've told anyone who's vaguely interested how great their show is and they should see them. Having gone to a Catholic school the whole quasi - religious feel to it with the church insense burning and backwards monastic chanting at the beginning. Instead of blood drenched leather festooned growlers in death palour, they are so pristinely turned out. kinda weird but cool and refreshing. Great cover versions too.
My god... awesome interview!
Our dear Tobias ❤️❤️ is always such a blast to listen to his voice in interviews..love the interview, so well done by the interviewer I appreciate that he let Tobias speak....thank you ....
Sam is great!! And I’m a stoner rock guy to the bone and maaaaan I love ghost.hooks out the wazoo. Per aspera ad infini
10:03 about that theme of the “Future of Rock and Metal”.....people just keep making the music you like, don’t worry about the next coming years...enjoy the music...people will like it or not...the important thing is that you’re passionate about what you do, if it makes you happy IT WILL WORK!
Great interview! Love his attitude :'j
I really liked this interview
Good watch and well engineered interview as ever
Great interview!
It's gonna be awesome to see Ghost play in Canada :). Very excited!
I've recently discovered Ghost, listening to them a lot trying to learn about their music/ideals. This interview was very well delivered by both here & I found it very insightful😈
Unbelievably good interview!
Great stuff!
Best interview ever
BOTH VERY VERY INTELLIGENT AND POWERFUL
GREAT HEARING SOME HONEST ACCURATE QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS
The sad thing is, throughout the times, there have been those bands where everyone believed they would be the next Maiden, Metallica etc. But then we fast forward 10 years, and although those bands are successful, they did not at ALL live up to their potential in terms of widespread popularity. In the end 80s, everyone was talking about Helloween, but they suffered in the 90s, and never really took off. Same story with Iced Earth. In the 2000s, bands like Hammerfall & Edguy were super hyped, and especially Edguy had all the potential. But when it came to getting their big break, they did not get the support they deserved. In the end, it was a lack of support from big record companies -support which they would've gotten, had they emerged 10-15 years earlier. If we are to see another Maiden again, this is something that has to change. These bands cannot be carried by fans alone. They need power behind them, and they need big exposure. Now we have Beast In Black as the next hot thing in metal, and I just hope we will finally see a true metal band rise...
Michael Holmgaard Helloween puts on a hell of a show, I’ve seen them several times in the last 8 years. In the 80’s they suffered from a shitty record company and management then some ill advised forays into pop metal. In the 90’s they went back to their power metal roots and put out some excellent albums. They had a big reunion tour in 2017/18 and even headlined at Wacken in August.
I definitely agree you need a movement beyond one band to make it work, but Ghost is so niche by comparison that they won't be as big. You hear the metal fans that consider them poppy posers and whatever. I also don't see anyone else taking up Maiden or Sabbath's torch in metal, but I could see bands that stay as well as the Big 4. That is powerful in its own right.
It has become harder nowadays. Many established artists say they feel sad for newer ones
@@wtglb Don't get ne wrong. I absolutely love Helloween, and their albums from the second part of the 90s definitely got them back on track. And yes, they do play big shows -Especially in the reunion era. However, when looking at their starting point, Helloween should've been WAY bigger. They had Maiden potential, but today they are nowhere near recognized as much as they deserve. Noise Records definitely screwed them over, but still, they should've had more power behind them, as they were one of the few bands who could've picked up the torch, and be metal's saviors whenever Maiden & Priest are gone...
@dooder Agreed. While Death was definitely unique, they should've had the same appeal as other big bands from that era. Pantera comes to mind as a band which Death should've been on par with, in terms of popularity.
Thank you Sam for this intelligent interview! Your documentaries and interviews are always admirable and well thought out.
I love what he says about Black Sabbath's albums. I love the first three albums. Paranoid being my second favorite album of theirs. But my all time favorite Sabbath album since I was about 16 years old (I'm 54 now) is Sabotage. I absolutely love that album. Vol 4 and Sabbath Bloody Sabbath are great as well.
Very interesting and well done interview. Papa Dunn rules!
Excellent interview Sam. I wish it was longer
He is such a down to earth guy. Humble and just seems so nice. Rock on Cardinal 🤘🏻🇺🇸
Wish it were longer, great conversation.
It's simple folks. Tobias is fantastic, he's incredibly bright and intelligent; and he writes and performs amazing music. His dedication to metal is second to only a few. Blitz, Araya, King, Chuck, fuck me I can name all the Titans of metal. You get it right, people.
This makes perfect sense. Brilliant!