Ghost's Tobias Forge - Putin, Fall of Empires, New Album + More
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- Опубліковано 2 бер 2022
- Ghost mastermind Tobias Forge joins Loudwire (via KLAQ 95.5) to talk about Impera, Putin, and much more. Pre-order 'Impera' here: ghost.bandcamp.com/album/impera
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Ghost is a big reason why I want to keep on living
Same here. Been listening since Meliora came out. That album got me through a horrendous breakup and gave me the strength to go on
I’d want to keep living regardless but Tobias and Ghost are definitely a breath of fresh air, and not just for metal.
Same
That's sad
@@jtruth5617 when people go through really hard times, music can help them cope and escape from everything. We’ve seen the effects of intense hopelessness leading to harm, if music is what helps them get through a difficult period and not have them give up - that’s something special. You shouldn’t shame ppl. Let’s be happy ppl have chosen to keep going and not give up.
I still can't believe how different he is in papa character! It's crazyyy
You’d swear they are different people
I did not want to like this band, but damn they got me recently haha!
Im not entirely convinced lol. Dude is stupid talented
It must be an absolute blast to get to be those characters on stage because they're extensions of him, but they're things that he wouldn't be able to do or say as Tobias. He gets paid to go around the world playing heavy music, being this charismatic sexual deviant 😆
Tobias must feel serious relief about the fact that he can just show up dressed casually to interviews now
takes a lot away from Ghost IMO though. Since Ghost was the idea of this Satanic cult no one really knew something about it.
@@TheKartoffel101 I came from watching wrestling before getting into Ghost. Because of that, I kind of regard him in the same fashion. When Mark Calaway walks to the ring, that is The Undertaker, and you keep the kayfabe that he’s an undead giant with a magical urn (sometimes). Everyone knows he’s some regular (albeit huge) guy that hangs out in Texas, but that doesn’t detract from the aura built around that character. I think that’s why a lot of people get mad when you call any of the members of Ghost by their real names outside of interviews like this. It’s breaking kayfabe.
@@thenamelessghuleh1440
I recommend you to watch Papaganda if you haven't watched it. It's a documentary about Ghosts back when they were anonymous. Tobias or better Papa Emeritus II and Special Ghoul talking about what the band actually is.
Tobias learned Italian for his role back then just to hold interviews as Papa Emeritus II as well as to separate him from special Ghoul who was more of the "Press Guy" for Ghost.
RN it's more like you see interviews about the movie but with just the Producer and Makeup artists etc instead of the cast.
@@TheKartoffel101 I love Papaganda! I wish the rest of the series could have been released.
I think I see where you’re coming from in that regard. The dynamic of having a reclusive Papa and the smart-ass “Special Ghoul” underling speaking for the band was fun. It was a shame that it had to be abandoned, but I think the Chapters, the ARG elements and the more casual interviews that have come out recently are kind of refreshing in their own way.
@Lyn Ghost when you were around the time when they were anonymous it does. If you only know them since Copia it probably doesn't bother you that much.
Excellent interview. I'm still waiting for Tobias to read us bedtime stories... His speaking voice is very soothing to me.
“Once upon a time, in the kingdom of Hell, His Majesty King Lucifer was talking to Sathanas. Discussing his future…Sathanas told his dad “Dad! I’m getting the band back together”! King Lucifer rolls his eyes and says “Oh really? And how is this going to happen”? Sathanas says “ I was talking with Tobias Forge…”
The rest is history…
Ghost became one of my new favorite artists. Tobias is a great song writer.
Same
Sorry you have such bad taste in music.
@@illnevertell7863 your opinion is invalid
the song "twenties" is pretty horrible but u cant win them all!! LOL!
@@diamonddave81 I thought the same at first, but it grows on you. Like most Ghost songs.
I remember when Ghost first came out and very few people knew who Papa was. They were mysterious, like kiss in the 70's. It's really great to see him now sitting down having a compelling conversation as an approachable ordinary person with a local radio personality.
Ghost sucks ass. I'm 40 years old and they are the worst thing since limp bizkit.
@@illnevertell7863 your opinion is invalid
@@illnevertell7863 I like Limp Bizkit
@@illnevertell7863 And yet here you are, a 40 year old acting like a 10 year old. Nobody cares what you think, 40 year old.
@@illnevertell7863 your opinion is trash
With Ghost, Tobias has taken the idea of Conceptual and Theatrical rock to a whole new level. He's upped the game in such a huge way. Ghost is a HUGE leap from the theatrical bands of the past... Even more so than Marlyn Manson from Alice Cooper, and in such a different and tasteful way. I love this shit.
Well said!
@@illnevertell7863 Opinions are like assholes... everybodys got one. But as far as your "Ghost won't be around long"... You do realize they've ALREADY been around since 2006 right??? Close to 20 years... not quite a flash in the pan dude lol. And where else would you put them if not in the same camp as artists like AC and MM? They make very theatrical and conceptualized hard rock music, that is the vision of a very brilliant and enigmatic dude. Sounds like the Manson/Cooper camp is exactly where Tobias belongs to me. These guys are damn near the biggest band in the world right now.. Maybe you don't like them, and that's fine.. but to just blow off a band thats been around for well over a decade, and are constantly growing in popularity and musical prowess, as just some fad is just ridiculous.
Manson still the king
@@manuelmirandawtf8345 , I love manson, I do... Some of the best concerts I ever saw were the dates I got to see on the Dead to the World tour throughout 1997... HOWEVER, as far as musical performances... it really wasn't that bands strong suit. Their shows were great for other reasons, the chaotic environment, the controversy, and the frenzy he could whip a crowd into. The audiences were almost as entertaining as the band. But Ghost is a different beast, that band is so good live, and the theatrics are so much more refined. I wouldn't say one experience is better than the other, they're just different. But speaking strictly from a musicianship and technically proficient perspective, theres no comparison, Ghost is a FAR better live band.
Mercyful Fate says hi
I know he gets a lot of crap but I like that they experiment with different styles and sounds; it keeps the music interesting.
Well I bet all the praise weighs out the crap by quite a lot
@@flashfire3564 Definitely. \m/
Who doesn’t get a lot of crap once they blow up? People suck haha
Ghost is garbage their music is trash not one good song. Find better bands ew
@@illnevertell7863 your opinion is invalid
I really appreciate him. Besides the greatness of his band, he is a smart and enlightened individual that possesses a holistic intelligence on what happens in the world right now
Lol "a smart and enlightened individual" - days after he said all metal after 1994 is shit. Nah guy's a tool.
I agree wholeheartedly! He's very intelligent, obviously very well read, and has the kind of mind that can look past what's on the surface of things and really figure out the larger, deeper forces at play.
And still be an incredibly optimistic person. I have much respect and admiration for him!
hes a satanist
not very smart
lmao
satan is a false god
a wannabe
I love that we can hear his voice as “Papa” or “Cardinal” come out towards the end. I love it so much.
I love love *love* Tobia's expression when he's asked "are there any happy songs on the album?" 🤪🤪
Tobias is easily one of the most creative as well as the most thoughtful artists in metal currently. Not to mention the Ghost stage show is hands down the best I’ve seen in terms of the balance of performance and rocking out.
I had almost forgotten how this man sometimes expresses himself through strange onomatopoeic sounds 😂 Anyway, I would spend hours listening to him speak because what he says makes perfect sense, or at least these are topics worth reflecting on.
I’m a musician too and we do it soo much. There just aren’t words to describe the sound of a beat or a note your trying to emulate. It’s hilarious !! So much onomatopoeia
@@drewc9488 I'm not surprised this being a common trait among musicians! 😂 Something similar happens to me as a visual artist too, when a concept is difficult to put into words I tend to use allegories, analogies and visual language in general to fully express myself
He's also not a native english speaker. The way he struggles with the word "cyclical" also shows that pretty clearly.
It happens a lot in dance too. You'd always know when coach was getting emotional or just tired when they'd stop counting 1-2-3-4 and just start making noises.
"You need to be less huu-aaa-lala and go more PAMM-Tschak-HUUAA-SHA."
And you'd always know what they meant.
Man, Every time I hear Tobias Forge talk, I feel like I just got out of class lol. He's such a smart dude, and a brilliant songwriter on top of it. Not to mention, just the natural creative writing ability he has, in the way he forms these broad concepts infused in each album, the way the wardrobe and characters evolve throughout the even broader arc of Ghost's career... it's truly an amazing thing to behold.
I absolutely love Ghost. I went to see them recently and got to meet Tobias (IN character) as part of a VIP package. He was so kind and nice. I will never forget it.
Aww what was it like?
This is one of my favorite interviews he's done. Because while Tobias Forge is very funny and silly at times, he possesses an intellect not shown by many artists today. His ability to convey his thoughts in a language not native to him is very eloquent and shows a deep understanding for what's happening beyond the bubble he lives in.
He's incredibly well read, which in turn makes for these wonderfully deep songs. The new record has been on full repeat almost nonstop since it came out in my house. While Satan may not make an explicit appearance, the inherent evil and exploitation that sits within organized religion is on full display.
When speaking about the black goo that's built up inside people, I was reminded of the slime in Ghostbusters 2. It made whatever emotion you were feeling more intense and made the characters act irrationally. Much of what happens to the knee jerk, sofa warriors of today.
Forge makes it easier and more accepted to say you're an atheist. I've been some flavor of atheist since high school (I'm 37 now), and it's only been recently I could tell people comfortably that I'm an atheist, despite rising numbers of non religious people, at least in the states.
There are always people who are so surprised he's well read and well spoken when it's always been my experience that people in the metal and punk scene are extremely intelligent and well spoken.
everybody going crazy over that papa voice popping out 26:10
Kaisarion is a banger. The guitar solo on the new song Twenties was really great. I’m hoping Frederik Akesson has a lot of presence on the album he’s a superb guitar player
just saying. Last I heard was that Frederik played ALL the guitars on the album
@@robindreier9796 Yeah I know, I hope he gets some chance to shine. I know Tobias is very meticulous about his music but with a player like Frederik he should let him go loose in one song or something lol
Both of those songs are ASS.
@@SMOKETHECONQUEROR lol what?
As someone who generally dislikes lead guitar, Ghost has always been an exception to me. Tobias writes solos that really stand out to me. Sadly, the solos from the new songs are so far very lackluster and generic to me. I get lots of people like it, but I personally miss Tobias' simplicity. I suppose for all I know Tobias wrote the solos not for note and he just went in a different direction, but regardless of the reason I just don't enjoy them all that much.
I can't believe I just watched a 28 min interview. It felt like 3 minutes. I NEED MOOOOORE
Tobias Forge: the man just gets it.
tobias intellectualism, sense of others cultures and doctrines always surprises me, he's incredible interesting i simple admire this man.
Every single Ghost song has always made me think, feel, and hope.
Very good interview! I'm always impressed with Tobias' insight and intellectualism.
He's one of the most well spoken, well versed, visionary I've ever listed to!
Wow. This was a great interview. I love hearing artists talk philosophically about their art and the world. Tobias is a gem.
Ghost has no bad song, just great albums after album, they just got their hearts locked in
to the pulse of a new artistic era, love the story in this great band love the in between video's its heart warming! this new record gots my toes in motion then the body will let lT FOLLOW Loose, HEAVY METAL RULES AGAIN, ALLELUIA
It's so calming listening to him talk. This interviewer also is such a fan and gassing ghost up. It's amazing.
Not sure why everyone is always so surprised that Tobias is actually an intelligent, informed human. He could never have achieved what he has if he wasn’t so. And he just happens to fucking rock. 👻
This!! His songwriting alone proves that he is extremely intelligent, and not only that, but that he continues to learn. Love this comment!
His smile at 20:27 is so incredibly cute. You just have to adore this man.
i love whatever this man does
Amazing how, even though there is 10 years between Tobias and I, him talking about popping in a VHS and just drawing and being able to chill like that..it strikes a heart-string a little bit. I do miss simpler times..
Man, Tobias is an amazing person. So intelligent, creative articulate and thoughtful, as well as extremely talented. I'm a fairly recent follower and listener to Ghost and I have to say I am currently obsessed by this man and his music.
There is something very ironic about Ghost and Tobias. Many artists and bands want to be "authentic" and "true". But their music is just entertainment. And there is Ghost. Fully theatrical, fully created and scripted with all its characters but the lyrics are discussing so real things and are truthfull to human nature. Like we are finding the authenticity somewhere where most people wouldn't expect that.
Never expected Tobias to be discussing elephants in heat 😂
I mean if you look at Papa 4, he is a bit like an elephant in heat 🤣🤣
But who better?
@@leenahusa1806 🤣😂😃😂
Tobias is so well spoken and his ability to convey the importance of critical thinking is so refreshing. Unlike the spewing of nonsense from the likes of Sebastian Bach, Tommy Lee, etc.
Can’t wait for this album to drop.
The other band member lose no longer with the band was also a very good speaker. He also sounded quite intelligent but you couldn't tell who he was cuz he'd always wear the mask.
@@mr.logicpants2835 that was usually Tobias
@@furseal2004
100% haha. Nailed it
@@furseal2004 Yeah I could see that being him and using a different accents.
I've listened to him on so many interviews, he has so much knowledge about a lot of things that I'm actually surprised that he hated school so much...but then again, who didn't?
I mean, with all his knowledge he should have a doctoral degree in philosophy or something.
Most of us who like to learn don’t like to be forced to learn certain things, so it makes sense that we hate school because they don’t let us learn certain things and they make us learn other things we aren’t really interested in.
School teaches you WHAT to think, not HOW to think. That’s the problem.
You don’t need college or a degree to be smart.
You learn all that outside of school. You really don’t need a degree to speak with such intelligence. Most people who have degrees don’t have a job in their career path (not all) but most I know are either working in minimum wage jobs with degrees. So by all this is mostly about life learning experience, learning from people, and seeing the world in your eyes on how you see it
Forge is a brilliant songwriter. Love Ghost.
What an amazing interview.
I have so much respect for this man. This album, Ghost as a band over the last few years- have meant so much to me. The blending of such playful fun and joy with reflections on issues that still hit deep. Sometimes we need that playfulness and flexibility to really reflect on who we are- make room for growth and healing.
REALLY looking forward to the next one... Already got Impera pre-ordered...
Really great interview! Tobias is a really smart guy, much smarter than I would’ve known
I didn't think I could love Tobias more than I already did, but every time I see an interview he means even more to me. Thank you for the amazing music, Sir.
Thanks for this interview 🥰 it’s always lovely to see him and hear his thoughts
This is such a great interview. It's great to hear these great insights from Tobias and all the inspiration that goes into making his albums.
Great interview/questions , look forward to the new album next week. Cheers
Great interview. Thank you
What a fantastic interview. Great questions, great responses.
Happy birthday, Tobias!
And thanks to both him and Loudwire, for this interview!
What a completely delightful conversation. Kudos Loudwire, and bless you Tobias for being the artist and thinker you are.
Thank you for a well thought out interview with Tobias. Can’t wait to hear this new album.
Kaisarion is my favourite out of the four tracks released so far
For me right now -
1. Kaisarion
2. Twenties
3. Call Me Little Sunshine
4. Hunter's Moon
Dig 'em all though. Can't wait for the album
@NomadKabal IMO Hunter’s Moon should be higher
@@sylph8005 It has stiff competition lol. It's actually my Mom's fav of the 4 (she's a huge fan too)
Interviewer did such an awesome job! Kudos to you sir. What a delightful interview
So glad to see ghost back ! I miss tobias so much !
Fantastic interview, super interesting. Thanks for doing this and asking about the song/title meanings, Tobias' thinking behind them. Have been a big fan of Ghost for years and will be for years to come 🤘💀
I could listen to Tobias talk all day. Great interview!
"It's ALL fiction. All just entertainment!" - wink wink, nudge nudge
This man just oozes brilliance! It's so refreshing to hear someone enlightened, in the know and personable. 🤘🖤
This was a great interview, can't wait to listen to the album!
I already loved Ghost but this was a fantastic interview. Tobias was thoughtful, and circumspect, and thorough. I especially loved his line about how he thinks we will see empires fall in our time but he "believes in America, and rock and roll, and the dream." He's an absolute class act.
Him wearing a Dismember T-shirt makes me happy. I remember seeing them live like 1
15 years ago in Stockholm.. I was just in the front of the stage almost getting the singers sweat in my face as he was kicking ass on stage.. 2 minutes later I was in the back of the crowd, not really sure how I got there. One song later I was back in the front now pushed against the riot fence so hard that my feet was no longer touching the floor.. leaning over the fence.. Headbanging lmao..
Some good memories to some good Swedish Deathmetal right there.
This interview was very sweet. I am going to look up the interviewer, because he seemed genuine, as well.
What a nice, grounded and extremely talented guy. The new album is seismic on every level!! Respect is due... 🤟😎
Thank you so much for this excellent inspiring interview
I love it when great artists are first and foremost interesting and interested individuals. Great interview! Congrats
He's such a genuine and smart dude. Love hearing him speak.
@@StylesLee hail satan
@@StylesLee ok and
I'm just happy as hell to see that Tobias, the head of such an excellent and creative band, is still such a warm and down to earth person. Given how big Ghost is and is STILL becoming, he could be expected to be far more egotistical and full of himself. Good on him!
i'm probably saying this for a 100th time but, seriously i could listen to him talk for days. i missed these interviews (shoutout to the interviewer too!) sooo hyped for the album
It’s so refreshing to have these questions that spark a way deeper convo. Must feel soo good for him
I love how tongue in cheek Tobias is when he (repeatedly) refers to those mind sets and behaviors being in the past, thank god, when I can just see at the back of his mind he's thinking how much worse Neanderthals we are today than we were back then and how we've learned nothing from those lessons of the past.
I really love how he takes seriously the creation of lyrics and conception of album. I appreciate it
I wish this interview was three hours long, at least. Loved it.
Just getting into Ghost. First rock group I’ve been this interested in for a long time
Amazing ! This band rocks ️🔥
An amazingly eloquent and intelligent man with a complete lack of arrogance which is so hugely refreshing!! His songwriting and creativity is on another level. I was absolutely blown away by their performance at the O2 in London last week - absolutely incredible band!
Blessings to Tobias, his loved ones, and to the band Ghost.
This is one of the best interviews I have ever seen with Tobias
It's so cool to think that I met this human in person a month ago! It's also hard to believe that this is the same guy behind Papa, and I love them all ❤
Happy Birthday, Papa 4! Can't wait to get the vinyl copy. Saw you in Houston and Dallas!
Great interview. Wild how honestly where we are.
Tobias is very knowledgeable and such a great song writer.
Very interesting interview! Its great that Tobias backs up his songwriting with some serious themes, concepts and ideas.
I am so fascinated with the way he speaks, the way he articulates and expresses his thoughts. Everything he said was so thought provoking and deep. No doubt that he's very intelligent and has insights on the many aspects of life. I really admired the parts where he spoke about cycles and linear thinking, everything was so intriguing. Love that you can see and feel his wisdom in ghost's music
Tobias is on a whole meaning of empowerment and I THRIVE for it, such an awesome artist.
papa has blessed us
Ghost's records were never about just rock n' roll and that's what I like most in this band! I'm really curious to find out what Tobias has in store for us in this new album! Great interview!
What do you think about the album now?
@@cashmoney8787 It's a 10/10 for me. Loved it!
@@KingArthas Ye I also like it. Could have been a bit heavier but still amazing
Such Inspiration Tobias. The mushrooms told me Destruction breeds life.
Wow, this interview cleaned up the mess inside my head. I kinda feel relieved now. :)
just discovered Ghost yesterday and i'm just obsessed, Tobias is a genius
One week later since the album was released and I’ve already listened to it more than 30 times. The reason it’s on repeat is it makes me happy, it gives me hope and I love Ghost more than ever now! It’s a well-crafted, thought-through album, that starts and ends with the same melody. If you’re a fan, you’ll love it as much as I do. Looking forward to seeing them live!!🖤❤️🔥👏🏻🙌🏻🤘🏼
Great interview!🤟🙏👻
Tobias is full of new ideas it is amazing! He is so humble and intelligent. Love him 🖤
Great interviewer. Great artist. Probably my favorite band this century. Last century it was 70's kiss ,Rush ,Priest, Roth era van halen,Ac-Dc , Sabbath Metallica,Pantera
Tobias the Man! Brilliant as always!
This is such an awesome interview
Oh and happy birthday, Tobias, much love and respect!
This is one of the best interviews I can remember.
I just got into Ghost yesterday and right now I'm binging interviews to learn more about them. THIS is hands down one of the best interviews I have ever seen! 🙌 It's more of an intellectual and philosophical conversation/discussion than a classic interview and both the interviewer and Tobias are so eloquent. I'm absolutely amazed by the interesting, inspiring, thought-provoking and wise words both of them said, this goes really deep and makes you think a lot. I love it! 🖤
Big thanks to the fantastic interviewer, who asked such original, exciting, deep questions and really got into the songs and the lyrics specifically in preparation for this.
On top of all of that this had a really nice and relaxed atmosphere to it. It was just a delight to watch and I would actually listen to a podcast made by these two for hours and hours!
Great conversation! 🙌
great interview! food for thought, beyond the music!
Thank You for coming to El Paso we hope to see you soon!🤟🏻VIVA PAPA
I’m about a month younger than Tobias, and I would have to agree: the summer of 1993 was pretty great.
I'm 46 and I agree , the world was a much happier place . No internet , no cell phones . All our friends had meeting spots in the city to all hang out instead of playing cell phone tag or playing video games for endless hours . Rock music was at it's absolute peak with Grunge and Metal . People weren't strung out on Fentanyl , Heroin , Pills and Meth . We just smoked weed , drank a little beer and had shrooms on occasion . No social justice or woke warriors , no homeless camps , no political drama or freaks dressed up like women walking around . The economy was great , I could pay my rent in 1 pay check at 19 years old making $14 per hour . Concerts were better , movies were better hell I'd wager just about everything was better , then the internet happened 😉
I'm two years younger and MY happy place is the summer of 1995, I swear. I immediately got what he meant. Being 12 year old, man... *sigh*.
@@manchesterexplorer8519 man stop being homophobe lol 😂
@@manchesterexplorer8519 The 90s grunge and metal scene, famously free of heroin and pills.
@@ZackC I get that but homeless junkie camps were nonexistent in the 90's in my area . The heavy drug problem in the 90's was a fraction of what it is today .
So much respect for the interviewer. Great questions, great interview!
Happy birthday Tobias. I'm new to your music but I can't get enough. Thank you so much 🖤🥀💀🤘