SNOWTREKKER CANVAS WALL TENT, GSTOVE | 30 MINUTE SETUP, REVIEW
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- Опубліковано 1 бер 2019
- Snowtrekker Wall Tent and GStove setup and initial review in the Boreal Forest. First burn!
Just received a new Snowtrekker 9' x 11.5' Basecamp model and GStove XL wood stove in the mail today and had to get them out into the forest for a quick setup and testing / review. Into the forest, hauling it all on my toboggan, I found a nice area with mixed forest to setup this camp. Please note, this was not meant to be a thorough review, rather just initial set-up and first thoughts. I'm a firm believer in putting gear to the test for extended periods of time before anyalyzing and putting together a detailed review.
Both the tent and stove will be heading into Woodland Caribou Provincial Park next week for a 10 day camp, so today was also about making sure I became familiar with the equipment prior to heading out.
I must say that my first thoughts are that both are excellent. We've been using Snowtrekker Tents for years in our outfitting program and they always perform well. Durable, practical...simply the best on the market. I was more concerned with the Gstove as its a different type of stove entirely from the Kni-co brand that we currently use. It's heavier, smaller and the pipe diameter at 2.5" poses a challenge for us to customize a solution so that it works with the tents 5" stove jack opening. Initial thoughts are positive for this little stove and I really liked how it burned. I made a modification regarding the pipe diameter, but there is more fine tuning needed.
Looking forward to more thorough testing!
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Well that was a fun little test! Gonna put this sucker through its paces over the next 3 weeks!
Maybe use some magnets on the other side to create a seal with the canvas and the metal circle you made
Great video for us contemplating upgrading to a Snowtrekker. For your stovepipe hole, you can cut an elliptical hole so the flashing can sit at an angle. For a 45 degree angle, cut the long way 1.4 times longer than the hole's short way, example 2.5" short way and 3.5" long way.
Thanks for watching. At first glance I do think this is the next step up from the Kni-Co and the solution to a lot of the problems that stove has. Appreciate the feedback on the stove pipe. Once the elbow that Gstove makes is in stock I'll be getting one but for now I was looking for a solution .I'm going to try your recommendation. Thanks!
@@solotripper yep: oval shaped hole. Actually here's an idea. Go to an electrical holesaler or even a home depot and get the steel mast overhead service "roof flange" that they sell. It would work perfect for ya. Not a perrrrrrrfect seal but would really work well. I use them all the time on steep angle roofs and our service mast pipe which is also over 2 Inches. And they are galvinized.
Why the hell is the sled being pulled by the human, and being followed by the sled dog?
My my, you went in lot's of work for a cup of coffee 😂, I guess it's the child in all of us wanting to play with new toys 😉, Nice video, thank's for sharing 👍 , Sylvain, Québec
Hey Slyvain,......well ya, but also it was to make sure the system was working before it goes out fro 10 days later this week. Thanks for watching!
Great Video! Thanks for sharing. I would like to hear more about the rest of your gear. Boots, Pants, Sled (especially the sled)
You covered it all Harlan. Tent and stove are definitely
top notch. Great Mike. job on the review and look forward to seeing some snowtime out of both. Thanks for sharing and ATB
Thanks for watching Mike....glad you enjoyed!
Sweet setup! thanks for the review Harlan. I hope all is well!
Hey Harlan... I'm back from Zimbabwe, Africa and gotta say that after being in 100 degree heat for several days, just watching your last couple videos in the cold/snow was a refreshing welcome home. Internet access was extremely sparse in Zimbabwe so i had to wait til i got to Johannesburg to download your last couple vids, then converted them to MP4's so I could watch them on the plane ride back to Atlanta (16 hours in economy seating...ouch!). I love that stove... have seen some others use it as well and it looks great. Thanks for all you do in putting out such great content for us to enjoy.
Hey Scott, welcome back. I hope your trip went well, looking forward to hearing all about it when you have time. Thanks for watching and your continued support of the channel. Enjoy!
Great vid Tripper , I’m learning a lot. Cheers.
Awesome video man. Thanks for sharing
Enlarge the hole into a oval keeping it the same width on side larger on top and bottom until it lays at the angle of tent wall, should work better than bending bending the metal
gave it a try, works like a charm! Thanks.
That sled!!!😳 amazing
Great video. Thanks buddy
Snowtrekker makes a great tent! That Gstove looks interesting, but for now, I’m sticking with my Fourdog titanium! Thanks for another great video!
Haha, ya I'd be sticking with the four dog as well. Sweet stove timber.
Good video on the tent and stove. That G Stove looks really compact and efficient. It's amazing that you were able to get such a nice fire with the first time using the stove. Hope the material around the opening of the stove pipe is built well to withstand the heat. Looking forward to you using the stove and tent on an extended trip.
Great review Harlan! Looking forward to your 10 day trip. I would add an elbow to the pipe and cut poles for support. Thanks for sharing.
Hey Kameron, thanks for watching. Enjoy the weekend! Elbow is on backorder so I'm playing the waiting game!
That fur hat is sweet, I've always wanted one.
Thanks for the video
good initial test of the stove you'll get the bugs out that you came across for the next outing
Thanks for watching Craig, have a good weekend.
Glad to see you back! Caught you the first time when you were in the woods talking about that sour competitor... been following ever since. Love that you are friends with Joe Robinet. He was the first bush boy (I'm a grandmother) I caught on to and I really enjoy watching you guys and what you do. Better than tv:)
Thanks so much for the comment and kind words
Excellent fabrication on the stove amber flange
Got an 8x10 Snowtrekker with the Gstove Heatview XL. You can buy the longer legs for the stove. For cold days you also like to get the pipe damper which is on backorder until April.
Good setup. Tough stove.
Glad to hear you have this and like the stove....Ya i'm waiting on the legs and elbow as well. . Thanks for watching.
I’m in the process of making a mini wood stove from a 1 gallon paint can, just finished a test build using an old metal trash can which didn’t turn out too bad at all considering I just got bored and decided to rummage around for everything I needed lol. But with that said I’m definitely going to take my time on the paint can and do proper measurements instead of just “Winging it”. But great video and very detailed thumbs up
I ordered the tent opener from Gstove and installed it. Works like a charm.
I agree with other comments suggesting that the hike be repositioned to allow more pipe exposure inside the tent. Also welding blanket material can fill the space for the smaller pipe. I still think a stovepipe damper should be added. By the sounds of the draw on that stove, you are going to go through a lot of wood without damper if down. Also, my dad use to always angle the back of the stove up a bit vs the front. This created a natural path for smoke to rise up the chimney so we never got any smoke coming back inside our fishing shack. Love your setup. I just finished making an Anorak and found my dad’s old snowshoes from the 1950’s. Can’t wait to take them out for a spin. Stay warm out there, Harlan.
Hey Tina, so cool that you've made an Anorak...right on. make sure to varnish those old snowshoes before using them. I've ordered the 45 degree elbow for stove already. To be honest, i did not find it going through too much wood but time will tell. Thanks for watching.
To be fair, they do have a damper as well as a second cook surface, water heater and a stovepipe oven you can buy for this stove
Silicone baking pan would work for a good cheap stove jack as well. But yours will work very good as well. Good job and nice coat/sweater
I scrunched up a donut shape of aluminium foil that slid over flue and covered the gap in my larger stove jack. Moves with the tent in the breeze. Nice vid, tent and stove.. :-)
Hey Phil, ya I was thinking about that as well....so many fixes for this little problem, Thanks for watching and sharing.
Great video!
Good morning, thanks for checking this out.
Snowtrekker tents are the bomb! A little big for solo but nice to stand up in. Just need a couple of logs across the bottoms of the legs with notches or baling wire for stability underneath to prevent the stove from melting down too far anyway. With the right sized logs you could raise it up quite high. 30 cm extension might be a little high and just more weight to haul.
Is that the XL G stove?
@@canesser1 Hey there, yes this is the XL Gstove. I'm gonna play around with it and see what happens. Yup, when I'm actually out camping I always have skid logs in the legs on my Kni-co stoves to prevent the sinking you were describing. Thanks for checking out this video!
Great vid, TFS!
Thanks for watching Ted.
Maybe getting the extended legs and the air flow controller for your Gstove would make all the difference. More efficient burns.
The legs would bring stove up off ground also.
Thank you for the great reviews.
I also have the Gstove...3.5 pipe and the sell a tent hole protector that goes on overtop of pipe and makes it 5inch along with protecting from over heating...good luck...
Nice set up !
Nice setup, love the video
They make a fireproof boot made for the 45° degree angle for the tent 2 to 3 in pipe
They sell longer legs also.. i have the Gstove view with glass door and oven hole in the back... im hoping it works good as yours
The Gstove is top of the line in my opinion. Good video and thanks for sharing. Just subbed, nice to see another fella playing and enjoying the Canadian outdoors. :)
I really like the Gstove with longer legs it would be more convenient if you have the space for that height. To seal around the stovepipe some people have had real good success using a silicone baking sheet you can easily cut that to fit then glue and sew velcro to it to make it removable from the tent and store it rolled up inside the stove. Some of the silicone baking sheets are oven proof to five hundred degrees.That tent I would really have to love it to go through all those things to get it set up particularly if I were in a storm.
How come you didn't get the gstove with the window?
Nice Harlan - pretty cool outfit, see how the smaller pipe works out over time. For your metal cover, you could file out / cut to open the ID up a bit, that way its would stay flat and not create more sharp edges.
Thanks Brian,. So I thought about that but I think it would have to be a lot larger to sit properly and that may defeat the purpose? What do you think? i did file all the edges and wrap them though so there's nothing that's going to cut the tent either way.
@@solotripper true and I guess you would need to cut an oval hole to make it sit on the angle and snug around the pipe as someone mentions below.
Hi.
Where do I get a pair of mitts, like those?
Nice video man i was looking at this or the cabelas instinct 12x15 with a packer stove. want something for about 3-4 ppl for late remote winter hunts but easy to set up.
Does it really warm the tent inside?
Whats the estimate weight of the tent and the fireplace combined?
Very informative, thanks Harlan. Buying our first hot tent and we're plagued by indecision. Not sure whether to go for this one or the Atuk Alaskan 11x11 for half the cost and less weight, but with the damn centre pole and awkward stove placement. 🤯
What tent did you end up purchasing? I am trying to decide between Atuk and Snowtrekker as well.
What saw is that? The 21?
the setup time takes a little know-how to get it right but it looks really good, for me I will need a three steps ladder to put it up
Did you post a more detailed review? I’m debating between this and a kni co, which do you now prefer?
Also, you said you don’t like the kni cos, out of curiosity why is that?
Curious what problem your having with the Kno-co stove? Im in the market for one.
I see that that stove pipe is right up against the opening. How hot is that area of pipe not to damage that part of the tent?
You can cut an ellipse (oval) in that metal cover to match the angle of the stove pipe at 45 degrees. So the width would be the outside diameter of the pipe (W) and the height of the ellipse would be W x 1.414 for a 45 degree angle. 3.535" tall. That way the plate will sit flush with the stove jack without any gaps from bending.
Hi Hay Wood, thanks for the info, I saw this earlier and gave it a try....success! Thanks for posting this!
Would it be better if the stove Jack was higher, more towards the center of the tent, allowing for more pipe to heat the tent?
could set it up with only a few of the parts on, the topper right after 2 extensions maybe? And for a too-wide ring, some leather could work as a filler around it. Sewn into the tent maybe as some flaps, and just tuck em in?
Hey there, ya with regards to the pipes, I showed that on the video, putting on just a few extensions, but for better draw, the longer pipe is better and I've always found that you want the top of the pipes above the peak of the tent. Long term solution will be an elbow made by Gstove but they didn't have any in stock when i ordered this tent. Thanks for watching and sharing your ideas!
hi! is your canvas tent made of cotton? does it have any waterproof treatment?
Is that stove under-sized for a 9x11.5 tent?
They sell leg extensions for the G stove and you can get a 45 angle for your pipe I have the Hercules temp and my pipe goes straight out
To help fit that stove ,just get a silicon stove jack and attach it to your existing stove jack and cut to size easy and water tight
For the 5" stove jack hole issue and the 2.5" stove pipe dilemma. The solution is an elbow. Of course the pipe would be a non standard size. If it was 3", a trip to the local home center to get a galvanized adjustable elbow. Using that in conjunction with your metal adapter plate would be more than sufficient.
Good morning, they actually make an elbow for this, however they were out of stock and back ordered when i ordered the stove....i have one on order...it is frustrating that its not a common size pipe though....still, it'll be all good with this little modification for now until the elbow arrives.
I was just gonna give you a tip. To go lite weight on joining 2 aluminum pie plates inside and out by making the size of hole needed to close the hole gap. And use the inside plate to passing through the stove pipe and keeping some aluminum to fold over on the outside plate as tight as possible. Or vice versa And I know aluminum will stay cooler then steel. I hope I explained it well enough. Enjoy the outdoors like i do. Rick
I prefer using a mucket, to make my coffee in. I love the bale, on the mucket, which is perfect for hanging; off a spit either by a string or with a cast iron hook over a fire or using the bale to retrieve from a wood stove, using a hook or a cloth. Making coffee in a mucket is easy, just pour the mucket full of water, pour in the grounds and let boil. After the coffee has boiled, the steam has dissipated and the grounds have sunk to the bottom, of the mucket; the coffee is ready-enjoy.
What's wrong with the kni-co stoves?
Find any pipe of 2.5" diametar (or same as stove pipes), cut it under the angle of the tent (app 45 degrees) and transfer the ellipse opening to the metal, cut an ellipse opening (not circle). That`ll do. 🙂
Great video, looks like fun playing with new toys. Would it not be better to do the first stove burn outside, not inside the enclosed tent? For those not doing a demo video that is?
I just had a look at the Gstove website and you may be able to get longer legs.
Yes I saw this as well, but it's annoying that they aren't included given the price of the stove.....I'm guessing a lot of people have the same complaints as it sits so low to the ground! Thanks for the info.
It also has adjustable legs to bring it up a little higher.
What size of get over
Hi. Where can i get the jacket you are wearing?
I like your Gs stove God bless
Gstove, the best !
Come on how warm does it get in the tent ?
nice tent
I would be inclined to attach a adjustable elbow pipe, at the base of the opening; then attach the stove stove pipes to it. Angle; the stove pipes, at least 30 degrees, for starters; through the stove jack. The pipe can be adjusted accordingly, you could attach a short adjustable elbow, at the first section of pipe sticking out of the stove jack opening, then run the pipe twelve inches above the top of your tent. Either a dura vent or trap wire better known; as soft annealed wire can be used for this purpose. Eye bolts are a good idea, including using a ring on the top section and eye bolts on the damper section or wrap a loop on the damper rod and your chimney sections can still telescope for storage.
Sir where we can bay
on a serious note, where can i get that hoodie you are wearing?, i love it.
Makes me wonder if those sidewall vertical poles are even necessary.
I bought the extended legs for this stove. Less of an a$$ pain bending over feeding the fire. My issue is the stove is too small and has a hard time keeping the tent warm.
@@JRESHOW I had a 5m bell tent but switched this year to a 4m. Waaaaayyyy easier to heat up. I have the regualr size stove and not the xl
@@JRESHOW if size and bulk isn’t an issue on your sled, pick up the XL and a 4m.
you mean especially for the size it is heavy not small?
That stove comes with optional longer legs, I think about 30 centimeters so you can have at least a foot of height and can put wood under it for drying. I would love to have this stove for tents and emergency use.
I'm trying to buy a stove and I can't find one in any of the camp stores in my city
You can also get an optional oven and water tank for hot water
Do you use the all purpose blade on your Boreal 21 saw or do you use one of the specialized blades?
Just the regular all purpose blade. It holds up ok, not a major fan of the saw to be honest but like it's packability
I’ve had one for a couple of years but never found it as good as everyone says it is. Agree on the packability though.
Your winter wear, specifically your hoodie and mitts, what brand and wear did you purchase. Thanks. Keep up the vids.
Mitts are from eglis sheep farm in northern Ontario. You can buy online. Hoody is a wool anorak from a Canadian maker.
Good set up .hey i''m looking to get a smok like you're wearing but can't find a store .where did you get that one.And just on your stove set up you might be able to purchase a 221/2" elbow so you can use a by-pod again like you did with you're other stove
My anorak was made by boreal mountain anoraks. I purchased mine when they were a new company. Now they are way too expensive if you ask me but good quality
i would like to say that stove looks great but being a pore man i have all ways had to make my on stoves and tents . but how dose it hold up?
Hey James, what size are the tents that you've made? I wish i had the skills to do that.
Like that gear sled. What's the make and model. Thanks.
It's made by www.lureofthenorth.com
Gstove makes a sleeve that fixes that gap in the stove jack.
What kind of stove was that....
Those Snowtrekker tents are nice but they have an design flaw in where they placed the stove Jack. The stove pipe should always exit the highest potion of the shelter or near the peak. The reason is that all the heat in the pipe is wasted outside and that energy is lost. At least half your heat is gone if your considering the surface area of the pipe.
If the stove port was more vertical and inline with the peak it would make for much more heat and efficient use of wood.
I know they have the stove port positioned out the side and at an angle so there's no embers coming down on the tent but it's a bad design.
Hey Aaron, thanks for sharing your thoughts on this. I can see where you're coming from, but the flip side is that these tents get bloody hot.....when the stove gets rocking it can be 100 degrees at the ridge line of the tent, even in -30. I should talk to them at Snowtrekker and see if they ever considered this? That said, having the stove pipe exit at the peak would have the stove in the middle of the tent and the usable space would greatly be diminished. This may have been a factor in the design as well....it's a good question, thanks for taking the time to share.
Excellent tent..👍⛺ .do u think there are stove hot tents like the 1 your using & are lighter in matirials?
Yes there are much lighter stoves, but the ones I've used in the past don't perform well and burn out in a few years...just testing out something new
Awesome...thanks abunch...hope to see more reviews in the future
Yes. Seekoutside make great backpacking hot tents and stoves.
You can get an optional higher leg and a 90 degrees elbow pipe
Your stove jack may work but they make a polymer stove jack that you can cut to fight. Price around 30 bucks.
Hey Tom, thanks for the info. Do you have a source for this material?
On Amazon, look for Dektite Silicone High Temp. Round Base, Runs about 35 dollars. Hope you find this useful. Happy Trails@@solotripper
What brand is your sweater? I like it.
I love you videos, knowledge and adventures. I also love your boots! What brand are they? What are they called? Many thanks, Sally in Wales...Uk
Hi Sally thanks for the comment and kind words....this is why I head out to make videos! Mukluks were made by Steger Mukluks, you can find them here www.mukluks.com
Great thank you so much. One day I will visit your beautiful country and share a coffee x
All the best from Wales, Uk 😁
Drill holes in the plate for tie outs
Nice setup. Gstove website offers bent pipe options.
Good morning, yes they do but they were sold out when I ordered the stove lol. Grrrr, this stove is heading out on trips now for the next 3 weeks so I had no choice but to make a mod or look for a solution. Hopefully they are back in stock shortly and I can grab a 45 degree elbow. Thanks for watching and the feedback
hey brother you worked much harder than you had to but that's why we go out there that kind of work is the best kind letting you know a little bit about your stove because I've had mine for years you can buy extended legs with them but I warn you the stove is very tippy very tippy especially when you add all the assortment tools that come with it mine has the in the stove oven and also a water heater and just above that is a beautiful baking pod. but when you go to open or close the pod the whole stove with it over it needs to be mounted to the floor very strongly. Best of luck it will keep you warm for 20 years. Inow only use mine for car camping I bought another one made of titanium it weighs only 4 lb and folds up the size of a trials book
It just seems, to me, that the stove jack is in the wrong place. It should be higher up.
Plus, I'm not sure why nobody has made a system where the first pipe actually twists/locks into the stove. That extra bit of support is nice when the wind is blowing.
Thanks for the vid!
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I find that camping in rainy weather is much more beautiful than camping in snowy weather, what do you think of me?
I got the longer legs on mine, sits about 16" higher