First time I disagree with your reaction. I’m Irish. I live in Dublin. I’m east Ireland 🇮🇪 Dolores was south Ireland 🇮🇪. Children were blown up and their clothes were blown off them. This video is a masterpiece. Back when all that was happening, we had to fill out anti terrorist forms getting a flight to the UK. All Irish were shunned. That’s why she sings “ not my family “. It was a sad time especially for the people living through it all in the north of Ireland 🇮🇪. It was horrific to see bombs going off in the UK. I am proudly anti war. RIP Dolores amazing song writer and singer.
I am also from Dublin but live in England, I guess I am somewhat older than you and can tell you Irish were shunned in England as far back as the 1950's and 1960's, many boarding houses in England carried signs saying "no blacks, no Irish", it was tough for my parents when that first moved here, long before the troubles.
Thank you for your comment. I’ve read up about those signs. In 1981 my sisters and friend went over every summer and had to fill out the form. We were all under suspicion. My dad would go over with my mam and fill the form out in Irish. My mam would beg him not too. They were always brought into a room for questioning. Very sad horrible times. I feel talks and compromise are what’s needed in every war. I had my son early August 1994 on the 31st the ceasefire was announced then in 1998 the GFA. I was delighted my son was born into a time when peace happened. James Blunts song “ no bravery “ is the real truth about war. A sad but true song.
@@jameswiglesworth5004 my parents came over in the Windrush from the Caribbean and said the same things that they would see on doors and in windows 'no blacks, no Irish and no dogs',
thanks for the insight, I liked the boys painted gold but for the wrong reason. I got it so wrong but I thought they were little cupids or cherubs pointing arrows of love and trying to fire peace and love(and cupids in mythology are dressed that way anyway) and are getting upset with the hate and killing. Your answer makes way more sense
The "little boys" are meant to represent the victims of senseless violence as cherubs and are clothed exactly as religious iconography depicts cherubs. It has nothing to do with the abuse of children. They aren't naked and they aren't depicted in a sexual light. People need to get over themselves. You've missed much of the powerful message this song imparts by being distracted by something that isn't there.
@PUNKinDRUBLIC72 Thank you. It's all good these days. My childhood & hers are like chalk & cheese. When you grow up through it, it's all you know. So it's no big deal. It's only when you look back & compare it to today, that you realise how bad it really was.
I think you would be best served if you researched her motivation for writing this song. In short it was in response to hearing about the death of children killed in a bombing in Warrington England in 1993. Dolores herself was in her early 20s when she wrote it - barely more than a kid herself. She was trying to make a point and I believe she achieved it, and significantly contributed to quelling the violence in the region at the time.
So you're anti-loincloth, but saying you're anti-war is too controversial? 🤔 If we live in a world where saying you're anti-war (which isn't the same as anti-military) is controversial we're fucked 😅
Bravo! Maybe they should have had some 18 year old girls with their tits out instead, maybe like Robert Thicke or Miley style videos, much more classy.
Yeah. We should prohibit children from going to the beach. Who knows what goes on there? Those adult beach lovers and those who work there are certainly raptors. But being antiwar is to radical to say out loud. We must be carreful. Who knows? Someone who is very sensible might be offended.
To me the young boys with less clothing represented that young children in a conflict have no shield against the violence. And just like during the Vietnam War, it brought out the passion of artists including musicians who produced amazing music. This was clearly represented in the Cranberries musical protest of the violence in Ireland.
I know one of the kids, I grew up in Beechmount where it was filmed. Running around waste grounds was all we had back then while the brits (army) patrolled around us.
This song was written after a bombing at an England grocery store where two boys were killed and their clothes blown off. The Irish singer was traveling through England at the time and felt like she was judged even though she had nothing to do with it. Hence the line....not my family.
You are way off,the video is about all kids killed in the troubles, not just the two in England, hence the video showing the British army shooting a child in Belfast
My 10 and 12 year old found this song during our vacation recently and listened to it endlessly. The.video grabbed their attention, and they started asking questions, so I explained the situation there for so many decades and what prompted Dolores to write this song. My 12 year old spent his free time during the vacation researching that era, frequently expressing sadness, confusion, and anger. Dolores is still doing her work. RIP, but know you still make a difference.
Don't blame Maddy-she is looking at a 1994 production (I don't believe she was even alive in 1994) with 2024 eyes & so will have a different impression than those of us growing up/in adulthood during that time. In 1994 hardly anybody had a mobile phone & the few that did were mostly yuppies with a large block phone & antenna on in, barely anybody had a computer & those that did were using a system the size of a JPEG & weren't on the internet-which was incredibly basic back then, we had CRT televisions with four tv channels in the UK & a VHS player was our Netflix, Amazon Prime etc & your streaming music was a vinyl record player, tapedeck, CD player & a tape cassette walkman with uncomfortable headphones. Children were generally running around free in nature without much fear. Totally different world to the one Maddy has grown up in.
Humiliation rituals are real, I am not expressing this is one of them…I am just expressing this is something to be aware of. When people who abuse power want to flaunt their authority they are like cats toying with mice…not like a dog attacking in a straight forward manner. It is a game, if you notice the signs / indicators of power within the entertainment industry this is done continuously through exposing some and clothing others, showcasing dominance. Psychologically this CAN lead to feelings of inadequacy rendering the victims to feel powerless due to the dynamic melded into their psyche. I understand that within the context of this video the children painted and barely clothed is meant as art, but I still do not support the utilization of minors as props for the sake of ‘art’…AND even if I am seen as going too far, I don’t mind as I would just like people to think. We continually see children becoming victims and seem shocked EVERYTIME a new victim speaks up, but it oftentimes occurs slowly right in front of our eyes. I just want for us as people to think, even if you disagree…maybe you will see a video or movie sometime with a child who comes out later in adulthood as being abused for years upon years and you will be more likely to put the pieces together then. I love ya’ll ❤ I’m not claiming the Cranberries had any ill intent, but I am just wanting people to think.
@@MaddyReactions Well said, not sure about the US-but over here the safety of children after the hippie era hit was not great. Lots of stuff went on at the BBC when parents dropped their kids off to be on tv shows hosted by people like Jimmy Savile & Rolf Harris. Also photographers like David Hamilton who was clearly a nonce were bizarrely accepted in mainstream society-even though most of his work was photographing adolescent girls mostly aged 13-16 in states of undress or naked. He was 83 in late 2016 when allegations of sexual assaults were made by women who were his child models finally emerged. He threatened lawsuits, but days later his cleaning lady found him with a plastic bag over his head-having taken his own life.
The song is about 2 kids who died and many people injured in the UK from 2 bombs explosions caused by the IRA. The bombs were placed in the cast iron trash bins along the city pathways causing much shrapnel to kill or mutilate people. It is anti terrorist and also anti war when the war is fought for power & gain and innocents die for the greed of the warlords. RIP Dolores, you are greatly missed ♡
Then why are you serving? This is only true when you are fighting in a defensive war, defending your family and your country. Just look at the USA for example, how can you say those soldiers don't love war, when they are fighting wars in another continent that has nothing to do with them lmao
On Mother’s Day the IRA put a bomb in a box on an English street near a store and two boys went to buy a gift for their mom but were blown up. This is why there are so many boys in the video. Dolores O’Riordan wrote this song when she found out about the tragedy. She was Irish and felt a British mother’s pain.
I grew up seconds from where most of this was filmed (Beechmount) . One of the kids in the video was in my class at school too, they had a brilliant time filming it their parents were there for the entire filming, and Dolores was extremely kind to all of them. The kids running around waste grounds was pretty much all we had back then. It was just houses and then big, vast waste lands, so we used to play football (soccer) on them, plenty of stones lying around to throw at the army vehicles, very different time. I get where you are coming with the lioncloths. But I promise you those kids were safe. I'll even try and get in touch with him again to see if he will drop you a comment as well.
the song is over 30 years old(1994) and you cant take it up with her because she died 6 years ago. a lot of people have forgotten there was a time when the English and the Irish didn't get along so well.
@@richpardey766it was between the irish and English....while there was religious undertones it was an ethno nationalist conflict. The British exaggerated the religious aspect as part of the propaganda war
The children exposed as you described it was exactly the message they were conveying, as it was in protest to the "accidental" killing of some boys in an ongoing chain of civil war faction violence, which this song was so powerful at the time that it drove real change with the IRA.
I did too this year. It was very eye-opening. I expected that the Peace Wall was going to be covered in murals to peace, but both sides maintain murals to their own martyrs. Understandably, the distrust and resentment is mutual, and that "Peace" wall that keeps growing higher seems to be all that keeps each side from acting out. I hope that the next phase of maintaining a peace involves building connections between the communities, and that they can grow together in time, before something (like Brexit) tears it apart again.
@EdwardGregoryNYC Brexit will tear the British Isles apart, yet importing literally millions of third worlders into our ancestral homelands won't? Give me a break. What do you think it even means to be British or Irish? Is it dictated by a piece of paper?
The 1916 line refers to the Easter Rebellion, where the Irish Republican Army (IRA) rose up against the British occupiers. 16 of the leaders of the uprising were executed. This was the opening salvo in the Irish War of Independence which the Irish won. While most of Ireland gained independence, Northern Ireland remains under British control. This was due to the large Irish Protestant population which were largely Scots and English imported by England to help control Ireland. There is no love lost between Irish Catholics and Irish Protestants, and each have their own terrorists' organizations, IRA for the Catholics and Ulster Defence Regiment (UDR, who wear orange on St. Patriks Day.) This led to three-decades of conflict between the factions and included British troops which is called The Troubles. While an anti-war interpretation is not inaccurate; the song is more about the internal conflict and terrorism. It addresses children being raised to hate each other. It also talks about people who are observing violent events from a distance and don't truly understand what is going on. This song works on so many levels and is justifiably considered a classic. The Catholic religion plays a major role in Ireland's history of terrorism. The boys in the loincloths are representing Cherubs which are baby angels. Cherubs were likely stolen from the Roman god Cupid, the little guy who shoots lovers with arrows. The outfits of the boys in the video are consistent with religious artwork. The crucifix being another Christian symbol in the scene. Finally, if you want a better understanding of the origins of the conflicts in Ireland read "Trinity" by Leon Uris.
here’s what Delores said about why she wrote the song. “There were a lot of bombs going off in London and I remember this one time a child was killed when a bomb was put in a rubbish bin -- that's why there's that line in the song, 'A child is slowly taken,'" O'Riordan told Songwriting Magazine. "We were on a tour bus and I was near the location where it happened, so it really struck me hard - I was quite young, but I remember being devastated about the innocent children being pulled into that kind of thing. So I suppose that's why I was saying, 'It's not me' - that even though I'm Irish it wasn't me, I didn't do it. Because being Irish, it was quite hard, especially in the UK when there was so much tension." She told Vox magazine in 1994 that the song was written in part as a mechanism to grapple with her identity as an Irish citizen that did not support the actions of the IRA. "The IRA are not me. I'm not the IRA. The Cranberries are not the IRA. My family are not. ... When it says in the song, 'It's not me, it's not my family,' that's what I'm saying. It's not Ireland".
This song is about the troubles. A time in British history unlike any other. When the Irish and the British hated each other depending on where you were or were born, what religion you were Rate born or who you knew!
If you believe it was only during the troubles that the British and Irish hated each other, educate yourself, it has not changed, neither before, nor after.
What a weird take on the video, never have i heard someone look at this video that way. For a song inspired by two little boys killed by a bomb from what was basically a terrorist group, when out getting their mom a mothers day card ,you then twist it about some boys with their shirts off in the video painted gold..maybe it would have been better served just listening to the song itself.
@@MaddyReactions on your last live event Sunday if I'm not mistaken. I asked if you can give a shout out to my son it was his birthday. I wish you could have seen his face, you I can't thank you enough Maddy. And you told him to listen to your dad that's what hit me more I am a single father. You're so nice to do that one day people are going to write songs about you, you are so beautiful. Hello from Alberta!!
To put it shortly: this is more about rebellion and civil unrest than war...and is religious at its core. Protestant Irish, wanting to remain part of the UK in Northern Ireland....and Irish Catholics in the South; Republic of Ireland. England was attempting to force their Protestantism onto the Irish...and resisting Catholics, well, basically said 'NO'. And so the IRA (provisional) were attempting to get/pressure the UK out of Northern Ireland...and there was bombing in England streets; and children were killed.
This Cranberris song is iconic and will allways stay relevant in the world today. I do recommend you listen to Bad Wolfs cover of Zombie. Its a amazing tribute to the band and especially to Dolores. Best regads from Norway
I never listened to the cranberries back then but I will always remember their name because of how huge this song was. I really applaud you for speaking up for awareness when it comes to children and their potential vulnerabilities in the business. ❤❤❤🙏😊
@@MaddyReactions That is what cherubs angels look like in traditional images. I think you missed the point completely here. It may be graphic, it may be shocking, but so is war, so is murdering children in the name of a cause. It is meant to make you uncomfortable. It applies equally today as it did 30 years ago. Maybe, if we saw the graphic impact of the events in Gaza, then maybe people might not be so slow to demand an end of the violence and suffering. And expecting a 30 year old video to reflect modern day sensibilities seems like a pointless exercise to me. A rigged test that aging art is almost always doomed to fail.
Friend, children have been being abused since the beginning of time…we don’t talk about this within society often as it’s something most would rather not like to think about. Do you assume that Epstein’s and Diddy’s have not existed within the societies of the past? Anywhere there is an excess of power and wealth there have been these sorts of happenings occurring. Silence is violence in my opinion, and I am just attempting to train the eyes of my friends to question rather than just consume something in the name of ‘art’. I feel the Cranberries did a great job showcasing the emotions of war and innocent lives, but I also feel that ‘art’ has been the only field that we continuously cheer on the usage of children who would within no other field be permitted to work. Even if you dislike my opinion, I hope you will at least consider this thought on your own.
@MaddyReactions Of course, I respect your opinion. I also enjoy your videos very much. I just happen to disagree with you on this occasion. As far as I know, the song and the video are pleas to stop the ongoing cycle of violence that literally kills children, as well as taking away their innocence and hopes of a better future through hateful indoctrination at an early age, ensuring the cycle continues into another generation. The cherubs are their guardian angels screaming for the vicious cycle to stop. They are meant to disturb you, but not for the risk of sexual exploitation in the video shoot, but the poltical indoctration (also lifelong abuse) of children at an early age leading them down a very dark path. On that basis, the images were valid and powerful then and remain valid and powerful today. It is interesting how you say "Silence is violence imo" That is literally a line from the song. I think myself, yourself, and the cranberries are all concerned about children's wellbeing in the context of this song. I think the motivations of the makers of this video were 100% pure and sincere, and nothing untoward occurred. But you see child actors in a vulnerable position, and you aren't comfortable with that. That's a 100% valid position to take. I won't put my child up for a role in that video. So of course I see the risk you are concerned about. Keep up the interesting reviews. I do enjoy watching.
I wouldn't understand anyone who was "Pro War" ... I could only assume they have never participated in one. Robert E. Lee once said, " It is well that war is so terrible, otherwise we should grow too fond of it."
It's about Northern Ireland and the Conflict there and attacks in England by the IRA etc.. innocent people getting unalived by a conflict that was going on for eons. She/the people has enough on both sides! That's pretty much it in a nutshell without details.. she had enough of the situation following a particularly horrendous attack where kids were unalived and wrote the song.. the video reflected the incident in an artistic bit real way...
The exact bombing Brett was speaking about was the warrington bombings from 1993, the IRA ( Irish republic army) sit up 2 pipe bombs with timers in warrington’s market district, 2 young boys where killed. The IRA stated they called the warring ton police 2 hours beforehand and blamed them for not responding until it was too late. This album came out September 14th,1994 ( the same day and year I was born) R.I.P Dolores ! I’m glad you finally found some peace. @maddyreactions you should watch Dolores o’riordans final interview where she finally opened up about her childhood abuse and trauma. I suggest song those in your own time.
U2’s track Sunday Bloody Sunday was based on Bloody Sunday an incident where British Military Police/soldiers slaughtered hundreds of peaceful Irish protesters in 1972. Yes Ireland is 2 separate countries Maddy, Northern Ireland is British and Southern Ireland is The Republic of Ireland.
I think a lot of us already are aware of that kind of thing but it never would have occurred to me to be distracted from the actual heavy import of the song. It's such a powerful song which I heard on the radio a billion times before I ever saw the video a long time later, and I really think the video is pretty much perfect for this song. But yeah, I think both can be true at the same time.
Sometimes music can make the difference and this is probably a good example. Irish bands like the Cranberries and U2 began performing anti-violence music about the time when the landscape was right to bring the fighting to an end. The 1998 Good Friday Agreement has helped ease the troubles. But the situation still simmers right at the surface. You might say the musicians just read the temperature and went with the times, but I believe their message was integral to bringing about the agreement which has lasted to this day.
The video was not made for US sensibilities. The zombies in the song were the people holding onto the (admittedly horrific) British over-reaction to the 1916 Easter Rebellion and perpetuating the troubles and killing children even 100 years later. The point was after 100 years it was time to move on and forget. The song actually helped create a push to resolve the troubles, a sanitised US version would not have had the same impact.
No offense to anyone, but the video was a protest against a killing of children. Two children were killed and this was against Northern Ireland and England. Check your facts. I really. Don’t mean this in a rude way.
two IRA improvised explosive devices hidden in litter bins were detonated in a shopping street in Warrington, England. Two people; Johnathan Ball, aged 3, and Tim Parry, aged 12, were killed in the attack. 56 people were injured. Ball died at the scene of the bombing as a result of his shrapnel-inflicted injuries, and five days later, Parry lost his life in a hospital as a result of head injuries. O'Riordan decided to write a song that reflected upon the event and the children's deaths after visiting the town O'Riordan also wanted to add images with "an abstract message", saying it would represent "the beauty that we see in the world or that we care to open our eyes to" while the black and white footage of Belfast "symbolize the pain that’s there and we close our eyes to". She suggested herself painted gold, and Bayer added children painted silver and a cross that "symbolized Christ suffering and dying, and all the pain that was caused to him it is called art
Dolores wasn't a an anti-war pacifist. She was an 🇮🇪 Republican to her core & supported the IRA fight against 🇬🇧. To your point of "do you actually win"? If you drive Britain out of your homeland, then yes you do win. So your children don't suffer at their hands.
@crusadeelectronics2444 It's not a secret that they gave money to Sein Fein. They couldn't publicly support the IRA if they ever wanted to sell records. But they gave money to their political wing (Sein Fein), which is the same thing. Just semantics
@crusadeelectronics2444 It's not a secret. They financially support Sinn Féin. I think they even mention it in the text on one of their album covers, if I remember right.
I have bachelor's in criminal justice. One of the best classes I took was Terrorism, this was in 1987, and terrorism was on few people's radars. My professor explained at the beginning of the course that if I you wanted to fight terrorism, first, you needed to understand the terrorist. His first assignment was to have us read Leon Uris' "Trinity" so we could understand why someone would be a terrorist. You might find it hard to believe but people don't suddenly wake-up and decide I think I'd like to be a terrorist. There is a reason for a terrorist's actions and understanding those reasons can help in dealing with the terrorists. In Ireland there were terrorists on both sides of the fight. The treatment of the Irish by the English was horrible. The Irish Famine happened when the potato crop failed, and the English exported the other food items rather than letting the Irish use it for food. Approximately 1million people died which translates to 1 in 8 people dying. Much of Ireland's population fled to America which is where our large Irish American population comes from. This is just one of many injustices inflicted on the Irish. Also, if you are American realize that George Washington would be listed in history books as a terrorist if we had lost the war.
Dolores was incredible. She opened our minds to what was going on in the world. We didn’t have internet like today so being 21 then I was very uninformed to the suffering of the world. ✝️❤️🩹
Many depictions of certain angels in abrahamic religions are nude. It is a symbol of innocence and vulnerability. In this case, they are both representing angles and the young boys who ended up losing their life on Mother's Day. Pure, innocent, defenseless angels.
I lived in Ealing when the IRA blew up the town centre. The whole thing was a fucking mess in truth, but I like to think it had fuck all to do with me.
I think you missed the entire point of the song and video and the sheer anger Delores had to what happened in Warrington that day...she was even offered a million dollars not to release this song but she ripped it up and still did it...
One of the few times I really remember hearing about other countries consistent problems growing up in the 70's-90's was the Irish/England civil war strife, the IRA were seen as a terrorist org by the word, but seen as resistance fighters in Ireland, and the English were very racist towards them. It was heartbreaking to hear about growing up. You'd hear about China or Russia as a potential threat to the US, but I don't really remember hearing about other countries internal threats except this one and it seemed like it happened several time each year and always talked about. If I remember this was about 2 young children killed by an explosion while either on mothers day, or while buying cards/presents for mothers day. Such a terrible act that led to one of the most influential and beautiful songs. It's crazy it doesn't feel that long ago, I'm 50, but the world has changed so much and your reaction shows its not even in the public consciousness anymore. Not your fault, this should still be talked about b/c it's not hard for things to slip back into this mentality and I hope for all that is good and holy that it doesn't happen.
What was priceless for me was your expression on your face that made me feel the song even more intense. OK, the concern about the boys was a bit out of context of the song but it only shows that you care and that it is not only the war that can affect children. Thank you Maddy.
🩷 Thank you. I feel it is just something we need to be cognizant of. We question how so many people end up as victims but we don’t advocate for the children.
Pretty much only two ways to win a war.... -you either beat the other side so bad in battles that they no longer have a standing army so they surrender or you eradicate them. -The other is you negotiate for peace after gaining leverage (winning enough so that the other side decides they would rather get something than nothing). And I think the lives of children should always be considered when fighting. If you believe your side has the moral superiority then show it...don't target children and don't let them be a casualty to blast radius. Like you said, in training/preparing for war, you demonize the opposition. You have to see them as less than yourself in order to pull that trigger or have the "stones" to set foot on their soil ready to ruin their day. But then you finally meet someone and have a conversation and you realize that had you been born in the same land you would have maybe been friends with the "enemy". You actually might share some "human" experiences. All of a sudden it isn't so "good vs evil". Maybe the person you are fighting is only fighting because you showed up uninvited to his back yard where his family is....maybe he had nothing to do with why you are there in the first place, but your army has been there so long that you both were children when the first domino fell that caused a war. Does killing him fix the issue? Or did you just give his son cause to take up arms against you and your army in the coming years? Loads to think about lol. But ultimately, I hope we can all agree that children are innocent and do not deserve to be treated as less than.
Thanks for reactiong, to this music video. Iv'e never seen it, but know the song & meaning. Video brings it home, but I agree with Maddy, it's layered, more complicated then that.
Great reaction,if everyone thinks exactly the same what kind of conversation what that be like, the kid comment opens up so many avenues where there's a discussion instead of going along to get along,its having an opened mind thanks Maddy and we love you too
@MaddyReactions truly appreciate that but just the song said it not my family, but how selfish is that on me, and not to go political, those kids are taught early in thier grade schools from their government,a math book is one tank+2tanks =3 tanks SAD BUT TRUE, keep the reactions coming
You may have missed the point of the video, or at least in part. The little boys fighting with wooden swords, they're addressing how media make little boys think that war, fighting and killing is good and fun and awesome. Which is a valid point, even more so these days with video games.
The line not my family can be taken in a couple of ways-those doing the bombings & shooting somehow rationalise it that they are killing the 'other side' & so it doesn't matter-though that was flawed in another way-as Protestants & Catholics live together in areas & they had no way of knowing they weren't killing their own faith by detonating bombs. It could also be taken as people not reporting suspicions/facts to the police services-even though you know by not doing so that lives will likely be lost, although being a snitch there was a very dangerous thing. There was an earlier song by The Police over a decade prior about the troubles called Invisible Sun-the video was banned by the BBC as it showed images filmed there like this one & criticised the British Army/government in the lyrics.
here’s what Delores said about why she wrote the song. “There were a lot of bombs going off in London and I remember this one time a child was killed when a bomb was put in a rubbish bin -- that's why there's that line in the song, 'A child is slowly taken,'" O'Riordan told Songwriting Magazine. "We were on a tour bus and I was near the location where it happened, so it really struck me hard - I was quite young, but I remember being devastated about the innocent children being pulled into that kind of thing. So I suppose that's why I was saying, 'It's not me' - that even though I'm Irish it wasn't me, I didn't do it. Because being Irish, it was quite hard, especially in the UK when there was so much tension." She told Vox magazine in 1994 that the song was written in part as a mechanism to grapple with her identity as an Irish citizen that did not support the actions of the IRA. "The IRA are not me. I'm not the IRA. The Cranberries are not the IRA. My family are not. ... When it says in the song, 'It's not me, it's not my family,' that's what I'm saying. It's not Ireland".
here’s what Delores said about why she wrote the song. “There were a lot of bombs going off in London and I remember this one time a child was killed when a bomb was put in a rubbish bin -- that's why there's that line in the song, 'A child is slowly taken,'" O'Riordan told Songwriting Magazine. "We were on a tour bus and I was near the location where it happened, so it really struck me hard - I was quite young, but I remember being devastated about the innocent children being pulled into that kind of thing. So I suppose that's why I was saying, 'It's not me' - that even though I'm Irish it wasn't me, I didn't do it. Because being Irish, it was quite hard, especially in the UK when there was so much tension." She told Vox magazine in 1994 that the song was written in part as a mechanism to grapple with her identity as an Irish citizen that did not support the actions of the IRA. "The IRA are not me. I'm not the IRA. The Cranberries are not the IRA. My family are not. ... When it says in the song, 'It's not me, it's not my family,' that's what I'm saying. It's not Ireland".
The boys are representing cherubs/cupids (traditionally naked) armed with arrows to make people love each other, but are no match for bombs and bullets. IMHO it's a shame that you are so distracted by applying a modern woke attitude towards the visual depiction of what is an appropriate symbolism. It was a powerful song/video written as a protest against the decades of violence (not a war) that Northern Ireland endured in those dark times. Please read more about the subject and the song for a greater understanding of what you have seen. I have now subscribed as I really enjoy all your reactions. ♥
Phenomenal song. The Cranberries were fantastic. The other popular hit in the US was Linger but their catalogue is very worth a run through. Bad Wolves were to sing w her on a retake of this before she took her life... their video of Zombie is worth a look and always chokes me as Delores did. I believe all the proceeds from Bad Wolves take went to her fam/// ???? i stand down if im wrong. She is missed for sure. Thank ja Love for keeping her voice heard. As Always, Peace and Love to You and Yours. ☮☮💜💜
This song is.... heavy. it involves a loooooot of politics. But i can say it's about the Troubles. The Irish Civil War. Very complicated one at that. I can't go any deeper than that without getting banned. The screwtube can't handle the facts. And you're looking....even more beautiful than before. I think you're getting more beautiful by the day. How many times i said beautiful? I'm sorry. Ok, it was 3. By the way the lead singer Dolores O' Riordan was sexually abused as a child. Died in 2018. She was 46.
Get your point but I don't think a T-Shirt would be any form of protection "behind closed doors" so if you have children in your video at all then you need to have the correct level of care and parantal involvement at all times. Given the event behind the song itself the video does exactly what it should. You see children, one minute just pretending to be "soldiers" in the streets and then you see them painted gold.
It's kinda weird. I like the content of this channel reaction-wise but things you say are kinda unhinged. I mean I've never thought about the boys' clothing in this video for all the time I watched it, and I'm talking about 2 decades. I kinda see your point, if they were young girls I'd be disturbed a bit too since they are my opposite sex. But them getting killed both in the video and others like them in real life is a lot more disturbing than that to me somehow. Also starting the video by saying "didn't she die" is also a bit disturbing. I mean it's a fact but she passed away relatively young. And that's too soon for now to mention it that casually. Anyways, cheers.
You hit the nail on the head-you have been watching it for decades. Maddy wasn't born when it came out & is watching it through modern eyes with zero/highly limited context of the troubles & with all the internet grooming/cancel culture/child sexualisation by the media that wasn't a thing back in our time. I am sure that Maddy especially as a model herself would be shocked to discover in the UK until the late 1990's I believe, that on her sixteenth birthday a girl could legally pose topless for Page 3 & nude in men's adult magazines & be looked at by millions of men like Samantha Fox, Natalie Banus & Linsey Dawn McKenzie among others all did i nthe 1980's & 1990's.
@@daveborder7751 i really didn't know she was a model before your comment but she is a fine looking lady and that makes sense she has a job like that. i also know samantha fox from my teenage years but she was already 30 when i was a teenager. so it's disgusting if she was forced to be a nude model at her teen years. althoıgh i know age of consent is still 16 in britiain now, even for gay marriages. even lower in some countries, but however they are disgusting, there is a more serious matter. what my point was there are still children being killed in the world today. i mean right now for someone elses benefits. i just wanted to put it out it's... kinda more disturbing i guess? i mean death of the children, you know? even babies. if violence and bloodshed was not the first thing strikes you in this video, you are from a violent culture most probably. a culture that'^s ok with killing millions of civiians in half a decade maybe? i know you value the lives of blonde and blue eyed people for some reason now but what's going on in the rest of the world is a tiny bit more serious. especially kids being murdered and their deaths being justified or just ignored in the western world. just saying. edit: english is not my first language. so i had to correct some sentences. cheers.
@@MaddyReactions not arguing about that subject miss (sorrry for my lack of pronouns, i didn't wrote that for knowing your marital status or preferences. just couldn't find a a better word since you are younger than me). everyone in their right mind would dislike it. i'm just saying the first thing that touches your eyes and some words you speak seem a bit weird. still, i like your channnel and i'm looking to see more reactions, especially comedy. take care.
I think the idea was to portray the young boys as fallen angels, so loin cloths fits that-the song was directly inspired by the Warrington Bombing that killed two children & injured dozens of other people. Children in hot climates wear them & they have always been common in film & television, to us people in our forties & older it is just commonplace, but to modern eyes it can have a different meaning, that wouldn't have even been thought about by anybody making things back then. The only shocking thing for us was the children & her being painted like the lady in Goldfinger & the religious connotation of her & then them being martyred in front of a cross. I doubt this video would be made now-there wasn't really that kind of connotation when this video was made 30 years ago pre-internet, pre mobile phones & very few people having a computer-kids would run around not wearing much, parents would even take photos of them naked in the bath laughing as young children-though that pretty much stopped when a famous UK female newsreader was arrested the following year along with her husband & their house was searched, after she took her camera in for holiday & home snaps to be developed (yes, most people still didn't have automatic cameras even then) & the developer reported her to the police-she was of course cleared as there was nothing sexual. Television at least in the UK & continental Europe was very liberal until probably the second half of the 1990's & nudity was commonplace, even pre-watershed-even in popular UK family sitcoms there would be topless/nude women pictures on walls in the background or magazines etc. The BBC holiday show that went out at something like 7.30 or 8.00 PM had topless women in the opening titles!
Since Ireland fought that war against the English they have done a complete 180 They now want to be in the EU They love open boarders After almost 100 years of fighting the English over that same stuff 😂
You're not a prude. You're a moron, blowing B.S. about nothing you know of. The video was showing disgust for a purpose. Look into it. And don't ever again say anything without knowing about it.
Many people won't like this, and il be the first to admit it is not a nice notion. We are a territorial, aggressive species by nature, not because we are evil or bad, but because it is nature's way of controlling our numbers, peace is the reason overpopulation will ultimately be out downfall. I don't like war, I don't encourage war, but it is a sad truth, not liking it doesn't make it so.
First time I disagree with your reaction. I’m Irish. I live in Dublin. I’m east Ireland 🇮🇪 Dolores was south Ireland 🇮🇪. Children were blown up and their clothes were blown off them. This video is a masterpiece. Back when all that was happening, we had to fill out anti terrorist forms getting a flight to the UK. All Irish were shunned. That’s why she sings “ not my family “. It was a sad time especially for the people living through it all in the north of Ireland 🇮🇪. It was horrific to see bombs going off in the UK. I am proudly anti war. RIP Dolores amazing song writer and singer.
I am also from Dublin but live in England, I guess I am somewhat older than you and can tell you Irish were shunned in England as far back as the 1950's and 1960's,
many boarding houses in England carried signs saying "no blacks, no Irish", it was tough for my parents when that first moved here, long before the troubles.
Thank you for your comment. I’ve read up about those signs. In 1981 my sisters and friend went over every summer and had to fill out the form. We were all under suspicion. My dad would go over with my mam and fill the form out in Irish. My mam would beg him not too. They were always brought into a room for questioning. Very sad horrible times. I feel talks and compromise are what’s needed in every war. I had my son early August 1994 on the 31st the ceasefire was announced then in 1998 the GFA. I was delighted my son was born into a time when peace happened. James Blunts song “ no bravery “ is the real truth about war. A sad but true song.
@@jameswiglesworth5004 my parents came over in the Windrush from the Caribbean and said the same things that they would see on doors and in windows 'no blacks, no Irish and no dogs',
thanks for the insight, I liked the boys painted gold but for the wrong reason. I got it so wrong but I thought they were little cupids or cherubs pointing arrows of love and trying to fire peace and love(and cupids in mythology are dressed that way anyway) and are getting upset with the hate and killing. Your answer makes way more sense
Right. The true indignity to the children was this war. This video gives just a small taste of that with the shocking imagery.
The "little boys" are meant to represent the victims of senseless violence as cherubs and are clothed exactly as religious iconography depicts cherubs. It has nothing to do with the abuse of children. They aren't naked and they aren't depicted in a sexual light. People need to get over themselves. You've missed much of the powerful message this song imparts by being distracted by something that isn't there.
I agree 100% !!
I grew up in Northern Ireland during 'The Troubles'. So glad my daughter has only known peace. RIP Dolores 😢💚
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The history is really crazy and Nobody really knows about it globally. Ice cream trucks.
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I'm glad for your daughter as well.x🏴
@PUNKinDRUBLIC72 Thank you. It's all good these days. My childhood & hers are like chalk & cheese. When you grow up through it, it's all you know. So it's no big deal. It's only when you look back & compare it to today, that you realise how bad it really was.
It was a protest song against the British and Irish strife that tore the country apart and killed children. Nothing more, nothing less.
I think you would be best served if you researched her motivation for writing this song. In short it was in response to hearing about the death of children killed in a bombing in Warrington England in 1993. Dolores herself was in her early 20s when she wrote it - barely more than a kid herself. She was trying to make a point and I believe she achieved it, and significantly contributed to quelling the violence in the region at the time.
So you're anti-loincloth, but saying you're anti-war is too controversial? 🤔 If we live in a world where saying you're anti-war (which isn't the same as anti-military) is controversial we're fucked 😅
Bravo! Maybe they should have had some 18 year old girls with their tits out instead, maybe like Robert Thicke or Miley style videos, much more classy.
Yeah. We should prohibit children from going to the beach. Who knows what goes on there? Those adult beach lovers and those who work there are certainly raptors.
But being antiwar is to radical to say out loud. We must be carreful. Who knows? Someone who is very sensible might be offended.
Indeed. We are fucked.
This song fits any and every war mankind has waged or will wage. RIP Dolores. 😥
To me the young boys with less clothing represented that young children in a conflict have no shield against the violence. And just like during the Vietnam War, it brought out the passion of artists including musicians who produced amazing music. This was clearly represented in the Cranberries musical protest of the violence in Ireland.
Makes sense!
I know one of the kids, I grew up in Beechmount where it was filmed. Running around waste grounds was all we had back then while the brits (army) patrolled around us.
SHE THINKS ITS ABOUT SEX WITH CHILDREN AND PEDOPHILES. HAHAHAHAHA, FKNG IDIOT AMERICANS
They’re angels, she’s a saint, a representation of religion
This song was written after a bombing at an England grocery store where two boys were killed and their clothes blown off. The Irish singer was traveling through England at the time and felt like she was judged even though she had nothing to do with it. Hence the line....not my family.
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Yeah, the actual story behind the song is dark AF
NO YOU HEARD HER ITS ABOUT PEDOPHILES AND SEX TRAFFICKING. HAHAHAHAHA, FKNG IDIOT AMERICANS
@@MaddyReactions en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warrington_bombings
You are way off,the video is about all kids killed in the troubles, not just the two in England, hence the video showing the British army shooting a child in Belfast
My 10 and 12 year old found this song during our vacation recently and listened to it endlessly. The.video grabbed their attention, and they started asking questions, so I explained the situation there for so many decades and what prompted Dolores to write this song.
My 12 year old spent his free time during the vacation researching that era, frequently expressing sadness, confusion, and anger.
Dolores is still doing her work. RIP, but know you still make a difference.
What makes you assume the set was not a safe environment? This video has won awards.
I'm really disappointed that derailed your review.
Don't blame Maddy-she is looking at a 1994 production (I don't believe she was even alive in 1994) with 2024 eyes & so will have a different impression than those of us growing up/in adulthood during that time. In 1994 hardly anybody had a mobile phone & the few that did were mostly yuppies with a large block phone & antenna on in, barely anybody had a computer & those that did were using a system the size of a JPEG & weren't on the internet-which was incredibly basic back then, we had CRT televisions with four tv channels in the UK & a VHS player was our Netflix, Amazon Prime etc & your streaming music was a vinyl record player, tapedeck, CD player & a tape cassette walkman with uncomfortable headphones. Children were generally running around free in nature without much fear. Totally different world to the one Maddy has grown up in.
Yeah, I don't think a sick mind needs a kid to be shirtless before he acts.
Humiliation rituals are real, I am not expressing this is one of them…I am just expressing this is something to be aware of.
When people who abuse power want to flaunt their authority they are like cats toying with mice…not like a dog attacking in a straight forward manner.
It is a game, if you notice the signs / indicators of power within the entertainment industry this is done continuously through exposing some and clothing others, showcasing dominance. Psychologically this CAN lead to feelings of inadequacy rendering the victims to feel powerless due to the dynamic melded into their psyche.
I understand that within the context of this video the children painted and barely clothed is meant as art, but I still do not support the utilization of minors as props for the sake of ‘art’…AND even if I am seen as going too far, I don’t mind as I would just like people to think.
We continually see children becoming victims and seem shocked EVERYTIME a new victim speaks up, but it oftentimes occurs slowly right in front of our eyes. I just want for us as people to think, even if you disagree…maybe you will see a video or movie sometime with a child who comes out later in adulthood as being abused for years upon years and you will be more likely to put the pieces together then.
I love ya’ll ❤
I’m not claiming the Cranberries had any ill intent, but I am just wanting people to think.
@@MaddyReactions Well said, not sure about the US-but over here the safety of children after the hippie era hit was not great. Lots of stuff went on at the BBC when parents dropped their kids off to be on tv shows hosted by people like Jimmy Savile & Rolf Harris. Also photographers like David Hamilton who was clearly a nonce were bizarrely accepted in mainstream society-even though most of his work was photographing adolescent girls mostly aged 13-16 in states of undress or naked. He was 83 in late 2016 when allegations of sexual assaults were made by women who were his child models finally emerged. He threatened lawsuits, but days later his cleaning lady found him with a plastic bag over his head-having taken his own life.
The song is about 2 kids who died and many people injured in the UK from 2 bombs explosions caused by the IRA. The bombs were placed in the cast iron trash bins along the city pathways causing much shrapnel to kill or mutilate people. It is anti terrorist and also anti war when the war is fought for power & gain and innocents die for the greed of the warlords.
RIP Dolores, you are greatly missed ♡
Maddie, after 25 years in military service one thing I know is true. Nobody hates war more than the warrior.
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Look up a man named Adrian du Pont. That warriors loved war more than anything in life
Then why are you serving? This is only true when you are fighting in a defensive war, defending your family and your country. Just look at the USA for example, how can you say those soldiers don't love war, when they are fighting wars in another continent that has nothing to do with them lmao
"It is well that war is so terrible, lest we grow too fond of it." - Robert E. Lee
Then why do you fight it?
It’s actually about a bombing. That took place 1 hour away from where I’m from in England. When i was a teenager.
On Mother’s Day the IRA put a bomb in a box on an English street near a store and two boys went to buy a gift for their mom but were blown up. This is why there are so many boys in the video. Dolores O’Riordan wrote this song when she found out about the tragedy. She was Irish and felt a British mother’s pain.
So tragic
IRA not NRA, different organizations similar results but different motives.
@@MG_Jersey sorry, typo,
@@MG_Jersey sorry, auto correct, I know the diff.
its an anti terrorism song, nothing to do with war,
I grew up seconds from where most of this was filmed (Beechmount) . One of the kids in the video was in my class at school too, they had a brilliant time filming it their parents were there for the entire filming, and Dolores was extremely kind to all of them. The kids running around waste grounds was pretty much all we had back then. It was just houses and then big, vast waste lands, so we used to play football (soccer) on them, plenty of stones lying around to throw at the army vehicles, very different time. I get where you are coming with the lioncloths. But I promise you those kids were safe. I'll even try and get in touch with him again to see if he will drop you a comment as well.
The "Zombies" kept fighting after the war was over.
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the song is over 30 years old(1994) and you cant take it up with her because she died 6 years ago. a lot of people have forgotten there was a time when the English and the Irish didn't get along so well.
There are other Ideologies that pose a much greater threat. We dropped the differences.
FUCK THE GOVERNMENT
Powerful and still relevant today RIP Delores.
Sad era in Irish history 👍✌️💜
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all of Irish history is sad lol (I'm Irish-American)
@willvr4 me too I know the history , between the Catholics the Loyalist and English
@@willvr4 There's 5 million Irish people in Ireland . 40 million in North America.
@@richpardey766it was between the irish and English....while there was religious undertones it was an ethno nationalist conflict. The British exaggerated the religious aspect as part of the propaganda war
For such a powerful video, such a lame response and so 2024 😢😢
The children exposed as you described it was exactly the message they were conveying, as it was in protest to the "accidental" killing of some boys in an ongoing chain of civil war faction violence, which this song was so powerful at the time that it drove real change with the IRA.
My man beating those drums like they owe him money 🔥
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You need to look up what this song is about..unfortunately you didn't get it...
I took a tour round the Belfast estates with a local and you can still feel the unease. The murals give you shivers.
I did too this year. It was very eye-opening. I expected that the Peace Wall was going to be covered in murals to peace, but both sides maintain murals to their own martyrs. Understandably, the distrust and resentment is mutual, and that "Peace" wall that keeps growing higher seems to be all that keeps each side from acting out. I hope that the next phase of maintaining a peace involves building connections between the communities, and that they can grow together in time, before something (like Brexit) tears it apart again.
@EdwardGregoryNYC Brexit will tear the British Isles apart, yet importing literally millions of third worlders into our ancestral homelands won't? Give me a break. What do you think it even means to be British or Irish? Is it dictated by a piece of paper?
I like that you didn't pause during this one. Respect
The 1916 line refers to the Easter Rebellion, where the Irish Republican Army (IRA) rose up against the British occupiers. 16 of the leaders of the uprising were executed. This was the opening salvo in the Irish War of Independence which the Irish won. While most of Ireland gained independence, Northern Ireland remains under British control. This was due to the large Irish Protestant population which were largely Scots and English imported by England to help control Ireland. There is no love lost between Irish Catholics and Irish Protestants, and each have their own terrorists' organizations, IRA for the Catholics and Ulster Defence Regiment (UDR, who wear orange on St. Patriks Day.) This led to three-decades of conflict between the factions and included British troops which is called The Troubles. While an anti-war interpretation is not inaccurate; the song is more about the internal conflict and terrorism. It addresses children being raised to hate each other. It also talks about people who are observing violent events from a distance and don't truly understand what is going on. This song works on so many levels and is justifiably considered a classic.
The Catholic religion plays a major role in Ireland's history of terrorism. The boys in the loincloths are representing Cherubs which are baby angels. Cherubs were likely stolen from the Roman god Cupid, the little guy who shoots lovers with arrows. The outfits of the boys in the video are consistent with religious artwork. The crucifix being another Christian symbol in the scene.
Finally, if you want a better understanding of the origins of the conflicts in Ireland read "Trinity" by Leon Uris.
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here’s what Delores said about why she wrote the song. “There were a lot of bombs going off in London and I remember this one time a child was killed when a bomb was put in a rubbish bin -- that's why there's that line in the song, 'A child is slowly taken,'" O'Riordan told Songwriting Magazine. "We were on a tour bus and I was near the location where it happened, so it really struck me hard - I was quite young, but I remember being devastated about the innocent children being pulled into that kind of thing. So I suppose that's why I was saying, 'It's not me' - that even though I'm Irish it wasn't me, I didn't do it. Because being Irish, it was quite hard, especially in the UK when there was so much tension."
She told Vox magazine in 1994 that the song was written in part as a mechanism to grapple with her identity as an Irish citizen that did not support the actions of the IRA.
"The IRA are not me. I'm not the IRA. The Cranberries are not the IRA. My family are not. ... When it says in the song, 'It's not me, it's not my family,' that's what I'm saying. It's not Ireland".
Powerful powerful voice (RIP) powerful subject Classic!
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She had a pretty rough life, i hope she finally found some peace !!
This song is about the troubles. A time in British history unlike any other. When the Irish and the British hated each other depending on where you were or were born, what religion you were
Rate born or who you knew!
If you believe it was only during the troubles that the British and Irish hated each other, educate yourself, it has not changed, neither before, nor after.
@ cheer up dick head
RIP Dolores.
What a weird take on the video, never have i heard someone look at this video that way. For a song inspired by two little boys killed by a bomb from what was basically a terrorist group, when out getting their mom a mothers day card ,you then twist it about some boys with their shirts off in the video painted gold..maybe it would have been better served just listening to the song itself.
Dang,did you get that one wrong sister 🙄
Remember when this song was being played by radio stations 5-6 times a day, if not more. Great song no doubt. Hello Maddy from Alberta!!
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@@MaddyReactions on your last live event Sunday if I'm not mistaken. I asked if you can give a shout out to my son it was his birthday. I wish you could have seen his face, you I can't thank you enough Maddy. And you told him to listen to your dad that's what hit me more I am a single father. You're so nice to do that one day people are going to write songs about you, you are so beautiful. Hello from Alberta!!
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To put it shortly: this is more about rebellion and civil unrest than war...and is religious at its core. Protestant Irish, wanting to remain part of the UK in Northern Ireland....and Irish Catholics in the South; Republic of Ireland. England was attempting to force their Protestantism onto the Irish...and resisting Catholics, well, basically said 'NO'. And so the IRA (provisional) were attempting to get/pressure the UK out of Northern Ireland...and there was bombing in England streets; and children were killed.
RIP Dolores. 😢
This Cranberris song is iconic and will allways stay relevant in the world today. I do recommend you listen to Bad Wolfs cover of Zombie. Its a amazing tribute to the band and especially to Dolores. Best regads from Norway
R.I.P. sweet soul. There's a reason why the word bomb is spoken twice. Sad situation.
R.I.P. to the lead singer, Dolores O'Rordan(was 46)
I never listened to the cranberries back then but I will always remember their name because of how huge this song was. I really applaud you for speaking up for awareness when it comes to children and their potential vulnerabilities in the business. ❤❤❤🙏😊
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@@MaddyReactions That is what cherubs angels look like in traditional images. I think you missed the point completely here. It may be graphic, it may be shocking, but so is war, so is murdering children in the name of a cause. It is meant to make you uncomfortable. It applies equally today as it did 30 years ago. Maybe, if we saw the graphic impact of the events in Gaza, then maybe people might not be so slow to demand an end of the violence and suffering.
And expecting a 30 year old video to reflect modern day sensibilities seems like a pointless exercise to me. A rigged test that aging art is almost always doomed to fail.
Friend, children have been being abused since the beginning of time…we don’t talk about this within society often as it’s something most would rather not like to think about. Do you assume that Epstein’s and Diddy’s have not existed within the societies of the past? Anywhere there is an excess of power and wealth there have been these sorts of happenings occurring. Silence is violence in my opinion, and I am just attempting to train the eyes of my friends to question rather than just consume something in the name of ‘art’.
I feel the Cranberries did a great job showcasing the emotions of war and innocent lives, but I also feel that ‘art’ has been the only field that we continuously cheer on the usage of children who would within no other field be permitted to work. Even if you dislike my opinion, I hope you will at least consider this thought on your own.
@MaddyReactions Of course, I respect your opinion. I also enjoy your videos very much. I just happen to disagree with you on this occasion. As far as I know, the song and the video are pleas to stop the ongoing cycle of violence that literally kills children, as well as taking away their innocence and hopes of a better future through hateful indoctrination at an early age, ensuring the cycle continues into another generation. The cherubs are their guardian angels screaming for the vicious cycle to stop. They are meant to disturb you, but not for the risk of sexual exploitation in the video shoot, but the poltical indoctration (also lifelong abuse) of children at an early age leading them down a very dark path. On that basis, the images were valid and powerful then and remain valid and powerful today.
It is interesting how you say "Silence is violence imo" That is literally a line from the song. I think myself, yourself, and the cranberries are all concerned about children's wellbeing in the context of this song. I think the motivations of the makers of this video were 100% pure and sincere, and nothing untoward occurred. But you see child actors in a vulnerable position, and you aren't comfortable with that. That's a 100% valid position to take. I won't put my child up for a role in that video. So of course I see the risk you are concerned about.
Keep up the interesting reviews. I do enjoy watching.
I wouldn't understand anyone who was "Pro War" ... I could only assume they have never participated in one. Robert E. Lee once said, " It is well that war is so terrible, otherwise we should grow too fond of it."
Oof she’s totally missed the whole point.
It's about Northern Ireland and the Conflict there and attacks in England by the IRA etc.. innocent people getting unalived by a conflict that was going on for eons. She/the people has enough on both sides! That's pretty much it in a nutshell without details.. she had enough of the situation following a particularly horrendous attack where kids were unalived and wrote the song.. the video reflected the incident in an artistic bit real way...
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What's with unalived ? do you have a problem with saying killed?
The exact bombing Brett was speaking about was the warrington bombings from 1993, the IRA ( Irish republic army) sit up 2 pipe bombs with timers in warrington’s market district, 2 young boys where killed. The IRA stated they called the warring ton police 2 hours beforehand and blamed them for not responding until it was too late. This album came out September 14th,1994 ( the same day and year I was born) R.I.P Dolores ! I’m glad you finally found some peace. @maddyreactions you should watch Dolores o’riordans final interview where she finally opened up about her childhood abuse and trauma. I suggest song those in your own time.
U2’s track Sunday Bloody Sunday was based on Bloody Sunday an incident where British Military Police/soldiers slaughtered hundreds of peaceful Irish protesters in 1972. Yes Ireland is 2 separate countries Maddy, Northern Ireland is British and Southern Ireland is The Republic of Ireland.
1.6 BILLION views on youtube. That is staggering.
I think a lot of us already are aware of that kind of thing but it never would have occurred to me to be distracted from the actual heavy import of the song. It's such a powerful song which I heard on the radio a billion times before I ever saw the video a long time later, and I really think the video is pretty much perfect for this song. But yeah, I think both can be true at the same time.
You didn't get it did you.
Sometimes music can make the difference and this is probably a good example. Irish bands like the Cranberries and U2 began performing anti-violence music about the time when the landscape was right to bring the fighting to an end. The 1998 Good Friday Agreement has helped ease the troubles. But the situation still simmers right at the surface. You might say the musicians just read the temperature and went with the times, but I believe their message was integral to bringing about the agreement which has lasted to this day.
Odd not to comment at least on the voice if not the arrangement.
The video was not made for US sensibilities. The zombies in the song were the people holding onto the (admittedly horrific) British over-reaction to the 1916 Easter Rebellion and perpetuating the troubles and killing children even 100 years later. The point was after 100 years it was time to move on and forget. The song actually helped create a push to resolve the troubles, a sanitised US version would not have had the same impact.
No offense to anyone, but the video was a protest against a killing of children. Two children were killed and this was against Northern Ireland and England. Check your facts. I really. Don’t mean this in a rude way.
Song sung by an angel that left us far too early, and reacted to by another angel that we are happy to have.
You didn't get it...
If this music video doesn't pull at your heart strings, you aren't human.
two IRA improvised explosive devices hidden in litter bins were detonated in a shopping street in Warrington, England. Two people; Johnathan Ball, aged 3, and Tim Parry, aged 12, were killed in the attack. 56 people were injured. Ball died at the scene of the bombing as a result of his shrapnel-inflicted injuries, and five days later, Parry lost his life in a hospital as a result of head injuries. O'Riordan decided to write a song that reflected upon the event and the children's deaths after visiting the town
O'Riordan also wanted to add images with "an abstract message", saying it would represent "the beauty that we see in the world or that we care to open our eyes to" while the black and white footage of Belfast "symbolize the pain that’s there and we close our eyes to". She suggested herself painted gold, and Bayer added children painted silver and a cross that "symbolized Christ suffering and dying, and all the pain that was caused to him it is called art
Dolores wasn't a an anti-war pacifist. She was an 🇮🇪 Republican to her core & supported the IRA fight against 🇬🇧. To your point of "do you actually win"? If you drive Britain out of your homeland, then yes you do win. So your children don't suffer at their hands.
Wrong.
@crusadeelectronics2444 It's not a secret that they gave money to Sein Fein. They couldn't publicly support the IRA if they ever wanted to sell records. But they gave money to their political wing (Sein Fein), which is the same thing. Just semantics
@crusadeelectronics2444 It's not a secret. They financially support Sinn Féin. I think they even mention it in the text on one of their album covers, if I remember right.
I have bachelor's in criminal justice. One of the best classes I took was Terrorism, this was in 1987, and terrorism was on few people's radars. My professor explained at the beginning of the course that if I you wanted to fight terrorism, first, you needed to understand the terrorist. His first assignment was to have us read Leon Uris' "Trinity" so we could understand why someone would be a terrorist. You might find it hard to believe but people don't suddenly wake-up and decide I think I'd like to be a terrorist. There is a reason for a terrorist's actions and understanding those reasons can help in dealing with the terrorists. In Ireland there were terrorists on both sides of the fight. The treatment of the Irish by the English was horrible. The Irish Famine happened when the potato crop failed, and the English exported the other food items rather than letting the Irish use it for food. Approximately 1million people died which translates to 1 in 8 people dying. Much of Ireland's population fled to America which is where our large Irish American population comes from. This is just one of many injustices inflicted on the Irish. Also, if you are American realize that George Washington would be listed in history books as a terrorist if we had lost the war.
@@childlessdoggentleman746 I'm Irish. I know all about it. Britain having the audacity to call someone else a terrorist is 🤢🤮
Dolores was incredible. She opened our minds to what was going on in the world. We didn’t have internet like today so being 21 then I was very uninformed to the suffering of the world. ✝️❤️🩹
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You know what's cool about 90k? Is that you're even closer to 100k!!!! 🤘
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Many depictions of certain angels in abrahamic religions are nude. It is a symbol of innocence and vulnerability. In this case, they are both representing angles and the young boys who ended up losing their life on Mother's Day. Pure, innocent, defenseless angels.
She obviously has no knowledge of the Northern Ireland tragedy.
I lived in Ealing when the IRA blew up the town centre. The whole thing was a fucking mess in truth, but I like to think it had fuck all to do with me.
I think you missed the entire point of the song and video and the sheer anger Delores had to what happened in Warrington that day...she was even offered a million dollars not to release this song but she ripped it up and still did it...
One of the few times I really remember hearing about other countries consistent problems growing up in the 70's-90's was the Irish/England civil war strife, the IRA were seen as a terrorist org by the word, but seen as resistance fighters in Ireland, and the English were very racist towards them. It was heartbreaking to hear about growing up. You'd hear about China or Russia as a potential threat to the US, but I don't really remember hearing about other countries internal threats except this one and it seemed like it happened several time each year and always talked about. If I remember this was about 2 young children killed by an explosion while either on mothers day, or while buying cards/presents for mothers day. Such a terrible act that led to one of the most influential and beautiful songs.
It's crazy it doesn't feel that long ago, I'm 50, but the world has changed so much and your reaction shows its not even in the public consciousness anymore. Not your fault, this should still be talked about b/c it's not hard for things to slip back into this mentality and I hope for all that is good and holy that it doesn't happen.
R.I.P. Dolores O'Riordan!
You missed the point for sure.
Is that all your hair! Wowzer!
What was priceless for me was your expression on your face that made me feel the song even more intense. OK, the concern about the boys was a bit out of context of the song but it only shows that you care and that it is not only the war that can affect children. Thank you Maddy.
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Great song great message peace not war
This original song was No1 in 26 countries!
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Thanks for your comments Maddy i worked in Hollywood and you are correct.
🩷 Thank you. I feel it is just something we need to be cognizant of. We question how so many people end up as victims but we don’t advocate for the children.
Pretty much only two ways to win a war....
-you either beat the other side so bad in battles that they no longer have a standing army so they surrender or you eradicate them.
-The other is you negotiate for peace after gaining leverage (winning enough so that the other side decides they would rather get something than nothing).
And I think the lives of children should always be considered when fighting. If you believe your side has the moral superiority then show it...don't target children and don't let them be a casualty to blast radius.
Like you said, in training/preparing for war, you demonize the opposition. You have to see them as less than yourself in order to pull that trigger or have the "stones" to set foot on their soil ready to ruin their day. But then you finally meet someone and have a conversation and you realize that had you been born in the same land you would have maybe been friends with the "enemy". You actually might share some "human" experiences. All of a sudden it isn't so "good vs evil". Maybe the person you are fighting is only fighting because you showed up uninvited to his back yard where his family is....maybe he had nothing to do with why you are there in the first place, but your army has been there so long that you both were children when the first domino fell that caused a war. Does killing him fix the issue? Or did you just give his son cause to take up arms against you and your army in the coming years?
Loads to think about lol. But ultimately, I hope we can all agree that children are innocent and do not deserve to be treated as less than.
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This song crushes my soul everytime I hear it but I can't stop listening...
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Thanks for reactiong, to this music video. Iv'e never seen it, but know the song & meaning. Video brings it home, but I agree with Maddy, it's layered, more complicated then that.
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I have not seen this in a while . . . shed a tear for Dolores.
One of the best songs ever, Great Reaction ❤
Hugs ❤️ thank you for sharing this
If you don't understand the backdrop to this then you will be lost on it. Read some Irish history
And definitely RIP Dolores you are sadly missed X
Great reaction,if everyone thinks exactly the same what kind of conversation what that be like, the kid comment opens up so many avenues where there's a discussion instead of going along to get along,its having an opened mind thanks Maddy and we love you too
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@MaddyReactions truly appreciate that but just the song said it not my family, but how selfish is that on me, and not to go political, those kids are taught early in thier grade schools from their government,a math book is one tank+2tanks =3 tanks SAD BUT TRUE, keep the reactions coming
@@MaddyReactions so disagree with you on this one and sometimes you make things too American.
You may have missed the point of the video, or at least in part. The little boys fighting with wooden swords, they're addressing how media make little boys think that war, fighting and killing is good and fun and awesome. Which is a valid point, even more so these days with video games.
Beautiful and amazing song!!! Love this, love your reaction and I love you Maddy!! 🌹🌹❤️❤️❤️❤️
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The line not my family can be taken in a couple of ways-those doing the bombings & shooting somehow rationalise it that they are killing the 'other side' & so it doesn't matter-though that was flawed in another way-as Protestants & Catholics live together in areas & they had no way of knowing they weren't killing their own faith by detonating bombs. It could also be taken as people not reporting suspicions/facts to the police services-even though you know by not doing so that lives will likely be lost, although being a snitch there was a very dangerous thing. There was an earlier song by The Police over a decade prior about the troubles called Invisible Sun-the video was banned by the BBC as it showed images filmed there like this one & criticised the British Army/government in the lyrics.
here’s what Delores said about why she wrote the song. “There were a lot of bombs going off in London and I remember this one time a child was killed when a bomb was put in a rubbish bin -- that's why there's that line in the song, 'A child is slowly taken,'" O'Riordan told Songwriting Magazine. "We were on a tour bus and I was near the location where it happened, so it really struck me hard - I was quite young, but I remember being devastated about the innocent children being pulled into that kind of thing. So I suppose that's why I was saying, 'It's not me' - that even though I'm Irish it wasn't me, I didn't do it. Because being Irish, it was quite hard, especially in the UK when there was so much tension."
She told Vox magazine in 1994 that the song was written in part as a mechanism to grapple with her identity as an Irish citizen that did not support the actions of the IRA.
"The IRA are not me. I'm not the IRA. The Cranberries are not the IRA. My family are not. ... When it says in the song, 'It's not me, it's not my family,' that's what I'm saying. It's not Ireland".
Great choice! One of my favorites to play on the guitar. So simple yet so powerful.
Always loved the cranberries!! Linger is my favorite!! Delores O'Riordan was so talented!!!
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This song still hits different.
Loved her voice and the bands sound. They had some good hits.
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The Cranberries were Irish, and this doubtlessly has reference to the Troubles.
here’s what Delores said about why she wrote the song. “There were a lot of bombs going off in London and I remember this one time a child was killed when a bomb was put in a rubbish bin -- that's why there's that line in the song, 'A child is slowly taken,'" O'Riordan told Songwriting Magazine. "We were on a tour bus and I was near the location where it happened, so it really struck me hard - I was quite young, but I remember being devastated about the innocent children being pulled into that kind of thing. So I suppose that's why I was saying, 'It's not me' - that even though I'm Irish it wasn't me, I didn't do it. Because being Irish, it was quite hard, especially in the UK when there was so much tension."
She told Vox magazine in 1994 that the song was written in part as a mechanism to grapple with her identity as an Irish citizen that did not support the actions of the IRA.
"The IRA are not me. I'm not the IRA. The Cranberries are not the IRA. My family are not. ... When it says in the song, 'It's not me, it's not my family,' that's what I'm saying. It's not Ireland".
Loved the cranberries, got to see them live. Such a tragedy... thanks Maddy
You are so beautiful Maddie! The Cranberries were my first major rock concert ever!❤❤❤
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Can't jave a 90s mix without the Cranberries
The boys are representing cherubs/cupids (traditionally naked) armed with arrows to make people love each other, but are no match for bombs and bullets. IMHO it's a shame that you are so distracted by applying a modern woke attitude towards the visual depiction of what is an appropriate symbolism. It was a powerful song/video written as a protest against the decades of violence (not a war) that Northern Ireland endured in those dark times. Please read more about the subject and the song for a greater understanding of what you have seen. I have now subscribed as I really enjoy all your reactions. ♥
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It is an anti-war song. One of the best, sort of. I think it is a great song, but it is a great song about a bad thing.
Phenomenal song. The Cranberries were fantastic. The other popular hit in the US was Linger but their catalogue is very worth a run through. Bad Wolves were to sing w her on a retake of this before she took her life... their video of Zombie is worth a look and always chokes me as Delores did. I believe all the proceeds from Bad Wolves take went to her fam/// ???? i stand down if im wrong. She is missed for sure. Thank ja Love for keeping her voice heard. As Always, Peace and Love to You and Yours. ☮☮💜💜
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This song is.... heavy. it involves a loooooot of politics. But i can say it's about the Troubles. The Irish Civil War. Very complicated one at that. I can't go any deeper than that without getting banned. The screwtube can't handle the facts.
And you're looking....even more beautiful than before. I think you're getting more beautiful by the day. How many times i said beautiful? I'm sorry. Ok, it was 3.
By the way the lead singer Dolores O' Riordan was sexually abused as a child. Died in 2018. She was 46.
Get your point but I don't think a T-Shirt would be any form of protection "behind closed doors" so if you have children in your video at all then you need to have the correct level of care and parantal involvement at all times.
Given the event behind the song itself the video does exactly what it should. You see children, one minute just pretending to be "soldiers" in the streets and then you see them painted gold.
It's kinda weird. I like the content of this channel reaction-wise but things you say are kinda unhinged. I mean I've never thought about the boys' clothing in this video for all the time I watched it, and I'm talking about 2 decades.
I kinda see your point, if they were young girls I'd be disturbed a bit too since they are my opposite sex. But them getting killed both in the video and others like them in real life is a lot more disturbing than that to me somehow.
Also starting the video by saying "didn't she die" is also a bit disturbing. I mean it's a fact but she passed away relatively young. And that's too soon for now to mention it that casually. Anyways, cheers.
You hit the nail on the head-you have been watching it for decades. Maddy wasn't born when it came out & is watching it through modern eyes with zero/highly limited context of the troubles & with all the internet grooming/cancel culture/child sexualisation by the media that wasn't a thing back in our time. I am sure that Maddy especially as a model herself would be shocked to discover in the UK until the late 1990's I believe, that on her sixteenth birthday a girl could legally pose topless for Page 3 & nude in men's adult magazines & be looked at by millions of men like Samantha Fox, Natalie Banus & Linsey Dawn McKenzie among others all did i nthe 1980's & 1990's.
@@daveborder7751 i really didn't know she was a model before your comment but she is a fine looking lady and that makes sense she has a job like that. i also know samantha fox from my teenage years but she was already 30 when i was a teenager. so it's disgusting if she was forced to be a nude model at her teen years. althoıgh i know age of consent is still 16 in britiain now, even for gay marriages. even lower in some countries, but however they are disgusting, there is a more serious matter.
what my point was there are still children being killed in the world today. i mean right now for someone elses benefits. i just wanted to put it out it's... kinda more disturbing i guess? i mean death of the children, you know? even babies. if violence and bloodshed was not the first thing strikes you in this video, you are from a violent culture most probably. a culture that'^s ok with killing millions of civiians in half a decade maybe? i know you value the lives of blonde and blue eyed people for some reason now but what's going on in the rest of the world is a tiny bit more serious. especially kids being murdered and their deaths being justified or just ignored in the western world. just saying.
edit: english is not my first language. so i had to correct some sentences. cheers.
@@sickturret3587I dislike child abuse of any nature, period. I mentioned the war as well. ❤️
@@MaddyReactions not arguing about that subject miss (sorrry for my lack of pronouns, i didn't wrote that for knowing your marital status or preferences. just couldn't find a a better word since you are younger than me). everyone in their right mind would dislike it.
i'm just saying the first thing that touches your eyes and some words you speak seem a bit weird. still, i like your channnel and i'm looking to see more reactions, especially comedy. take care.
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I think the idea was to portray the young boys as fallen angels, so loin cloths fits that-the song was directly inspired by the Warrington Bombing that killed two children & injured dozens of other people. Children in hot climates wear them & they have always been common in film & television, to us people in our forties & older it is just commonplace, but to modern eyes it can have a different meaning, that wouldn't have even been thought about by anybody making things back then. The only shocking thing for us was the children & her being painted like the lady in Goldfinger & the religious connotation of her & then them being martyred in front of a cross.
I doubt this video would be made now-there wasn't really that kind of connotation when this video was made 30 years ago pre-internet, pre mobile phones & very few people having a computer-kids would run around not wearing much, parents would even take photos of them naked in the bath laughing as young children-though that pretty much stopped when a famous UK female newsreader was arrested the following year along with her husband & their house was searched, after she took her camera in for holiday & home snaps to be developed (yes, most people still didn't have automatic cameras even then) & the developer reported her to the police-she was of course cleared as there was nothing sexual.
Television at least in the UK & continental Europe was very liberal until probably the second half of the 1990's & nudity was commonplace, even pre-watershed-even in popular UK family sitcoms there would be topless/nude women pictures on walls in the background or magazines etc. The BBC holiday show that went out at something like 7.30 or 8.00 PM had topless women in the opening titles!
Since Ireland fought that war against the English they have done a complete 180
They now want to be in the EU
They love open boarders
After almost 100 years of fighting the English over that same stuff 😂
Unfortunately, Irish Nationalism is simply thinly veiled British contrarianism.
Ireland, 1916, Easter Rising..
You're not a prude. You're a moron, blowing B.S. about nothing you know of. The video was showing disgust for a purpose. Look into it. And don't ever again say anything without knowing about it.
Many people won't like this, and il be the first to admit it is not a nice notion. We are a territorial, aggressive species by nature, not because we are evil or bad, but because it is nature's way of controlling our numbers, peace is the reason overpopulation will ultimately be out downfall. I don't like war, I don't encourage war, but it is a sad truth, not liking it doesn't make it so.
I understand you Maddy, but back then different time.