Colt Burgess Unique Ejector

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  • Опубліковано 16 гру 2023
  • Colt and Andrew Burgess designed the Colt Burgess lever action rifle with a rather unique ejector. We'll take a look at one that's not working, then go through it's repair and eventually take it out to the range.

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  • @anangryranger
    @anangryranger 6 місяців тому +15

    I operated a one man gunsmithing business for 30 years. Though the popularity of the 1911kept me quite busy creating custom models, my specialty was older weapons. I was fortunate to have been commissioned by a university museum back in the 80's to do restoration and preservation of the firearms there. Everything from wheel locks to M1 rifles.
    However, in all my years I'd never laid eyes upon a Colt leveraction. Watching your work here was a rare treat for me. I watch your videos every time one goes up.
    Thanks for all you do. You make an old retired gunsmith very happy👍😁

    • @thecinnabar8442
      @thecinnabar8442  6 місяців тому +3

      Thank you so much for your comment! As I get more and more irons in the fire, I find it more difficult to find the time to produce these videos. It's so gratifying to hear from people like you who enjoy them. Makes it seem worthwhile. Thanks for watching

  • @bluescatreimer
    @bluescatreimer 6 місяців тому +2

    I really enjoy your videos and look forward to them. Just turned 70 yesterday so I grew up around all these old guns that my family and relatives had and shot. Lots of good memories.

    • @thecinnabar8442
      @thecinnabar8442  6 місяців тому +2

      Thanks so much! Glad to hear you like our channel.

  • @National757
    @National757 5 місяців тому +1

    A beautiful old gun. Old rifles have always tugged on my heart. Especially Winchester's. And Colt's. I don't have the equipment, or the skills to gunsmith like you do. But I sure do enjoy watching you work your magic on these old firearms! Thank you for sharing.

  • @KenBlackRifleAmerica
    @KenBlackRifleAmerica 6 місяців тому +3

    Beautiful work getting that old Burgess/Colt up and running well. Thanks so much Mark for another awesome episode here at The Cinnabar!! Happy Trails and Merry Christmas 🦌🐎🎄

    • @thecinnabar8442
      @thecinnabar8442  6 місяців тому +3

      Merry Christmas, Ken! Thanks so much for watching our channel!

  • @vtpatriot686
    @vtpatriot686 6 місяців тому +1

    WOW… You sir are a genius. A seriously skilled guy. I was lost when the stock came off :)

  • @mikemccollum4521
    @mikemccollum4521 6 місяців тому

    I always enjoy your educational and informative videos of old treasures

  • @johnmollet2637
    @johnmollet2637 6 місяців тому +6

    Interesting engineering on the ejector. Now having seen it I'm not sure I would be comfortable taking that rifle into the frontier. Another great video Mark, thank you very much for posting it!

    • @thecinnabar8442
      @thecinnabar8442  6 місяців тому

      Thanks so much for your support, John!!!

    • @CameronMcCreary
      @CameronMcCreary 6 місяців тому +1

      Mark, nice work on the repair. I used to use a product called KASENIT
      and purchased it from Frank Mittermeier in New York in the 1970's. It contained no animal or human bone.
      Currently and recently up to last year, Travers Tools used to sell the product but is no longer available.

  • @KincadeCeltoSlav
    @KincadeCeltoSlav 6 місяців тому +1

    Appreciate the Paul Harvey at the end!

  • @pachuagfirearmsrestorations
    @pachuagfirearmsrestorations 6 місяців тому +2

    Never fails, the smallest pins in an old firearm always give you hell to get free !!

  • @oldiron3735
    @oldiron3735 6 місяців тому +2

    Great video on the Burgess ejector, I had no idea it was such a unique design.
    Some day Id love to come across a good deal on one.

  • @55fishfish
    @55fishfish 6 місяців тому +1

    Just stunningly beautiful property you got there, lucky man.

  • @brivas3343
    @brivas3343 6 місяців тому

    Thanks for this. Never seen the insides of a Colt-Burgess before.

    • @thecinnabar8442
      @thecinnabar8442  6 місяців тому

      Except for the ejector, it's a very simple and rugged design. They also cycle really smoothly. A real joy to shoot.

  • @oregonoutback7779
    @oregonoutback7779 6 місяців тому +2

    Another excellent class, Professor. Learned a bunch! Thank you.

  • @droberts73543
    @droberts73543 6 місяців тому +1

    Nice rifle and great ending line...

  • @daveclemons1225
    @daveclemons1225 6 місяців тому +1

    Great Video as always Mark. The Colt reminds me of my Whitney Scharf model 1886. The outside is very similar, but the inside mechanics are somewhat different. I was able to put a few rounds thru my Whitney today! Glad you were able to get that old girl shooting again. Sure like watching your video's! Take care.

    • @thecinnabar8442
      @thecinnabar8442  6 місяців тому +1

      Those Whitney's were also designed Andrew Burgess. I'm also a big fan of the Whitney rifles.

  • @chrischiampo7647
    @chrischiampo7647 6 місяців тому +1

    😀👍🏼😊👍🏼❤️👍🏼😀👍🏼 Awesome Info Mark

  • @453421abcdefg12345
    @453421abcdefg12345 6 місяців тому +2

    An excellent video! So nice to see the inside of a Colt Burgess, not often we get to see that. The small size of the extractor block is a surprize ,I would have though it would have been of a different dia to the primer, were early primers larger dia to our "modern" ones. Chris B.

    • @thecinnabar8442
      @thecinnabar8442  6 місяців тому +1

      Thanks Chris! I believe the primers were the same or very similar to the diameter they are today. This design is a little surprising to me as well. It's a weak link in what I think is a very well-made firearm for the time.

  • @ofreen
    @ofreen 6 місяців тому +1

    From watching, I can see the Burgess is for sure not as fiddly to put back together as the 92 Winchester is. That is a handsome rifle, but the difficulty loading it would cut down on the fun plinking with it. On the upside, it would cut down on ammo consumption! Interesting video as usual.

  • @douglasmckee754
    @douglasmckee754 6 місяців тому +1

    Sweet..
    My wife and I have Winn.Centenial 66 and 73.
    I have 2 73 LC.45's.
    Im old school i love the Gun's that won the west.

  • @gilbertdelgado6703
    @gilbertdelgado6703 6 місяців тому +1

    Beautiful ole gal. Treat her like the Sweetheart she is.

  • @ricktaylor5744
    @ricktaylor5744 6 місяців тому +1

    Great job Mark that is a good looking old rifle. Can't wait to get my 1892 back from your shop! The ejector on it was broken also but when it was working it really kicked them out. Keep up the good work. And have a very Merry Christmas.

    • @thecinnabar8442
      @thecinnabar8442  6 місяців тому +1

      It does again! Just got it finished. It had several other issues including a broken firing pin.

    • @ricktaylor5744
      @ricktaylor5744 6 місяців тому

      Thank you. If you want to do a video with it you have my blessing

  • @loupuleff571
    @loupuleff571 6 місяців тому +1

    Great video Mark thanks!

  • @jeffryrichardson9105
    @jeffryrichardson9105 6 місяців тому

    Great information! awesome history!👍🏽😀❤️🇺🇸

  • @henrysara7716
    @henrysara7716 6 місяців тому +1

    Thank you Mark

  • @billfisher6708
    @billfisher6708 6 місяців тому +1

    Very interesting video!

  • @errolpoxleitner9586
    @errolpoxleitner9586 6 місяців тому

    Good show thanks didn't know they even made those.
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  • @ryanvanarsdale8749
    @ryanvanarsdale8749 6 місяців тому

    Looks more like a tempering issue than design and it's looks like a pretty simple spring to make out of a newer high carbon like 5160. Very interesting rifle and I'd have to agree I'd rather assemble a burgess than a winchester lol.

  • @mikereinhardt4807
    @mikereinhardt4807 6 місяців тому +1

    Enjoyed this video as usual an excellent one...

  • @davidgoldberg
    @davidgoldberg 6 місяців тому +1

    Nice work!

  • @sprintcarfan87
    @sprintcarfan87 6 місяців тому

    I really enjoy your channel. I love old lever action rifles. Do you ever run across old Marlin rifles?

  • @ryanvanarsdale8749
    @ryanvanarsdale8749 6 місяців тому

    Seems like a good design but could be improved if they would have designed the ejector with a flange to cancel out the over travel issue. Awesome rifles

  • @jacobmarley4907
    @jacobmarley4907 6 місяців тому

    Great video on the Burgess rifle. I had one of the Uberti replicas because I really liked the design. I used it for my CAS rifle however I had problems with it functioning to the end of a match, and sometimes a stage. It went back to the company gunsmith a couple of times so the company graciously let me swap an 1873 rifle (24" barrel) for it even steven.
    Go figure, my go to match rifle ends up being a Colt Lightning clone.

    • @thecinnabar8442
      @thecinnabar8442  6 місяців тому +1

      I haven't handled one of the reproduction Burgess rifles. That's disappointing to hear. The originals I've shot have cycled slick as a whistle.

  • @jacklucking691
    @jacklucking691 6 місяців тому

    Merry Christmas to ALL at the Cinnabar Ranch. 🎍🎍🎍🎍

  • @dogbone1358
    @dogbone1358 6 місяців тому +1

    Did you address the peening on the toggle link you showed us in the beginning?

  • @morganfrmn
    @morganfrmn 6 місяців тому

    I have an 1873 that needs some love what is your website?

  • @petert9749
    @petert9749 6 місяців тому

    When on every firing the ejector rammed back on the cranking mechanism it wore 'nick' each side of that mechanism. Presumably when the ejector sits back it is going back into those 'nicks'???? Are you going to weld and linish (no pleasing Spalcheque) out the 'nicks'? It seems that whichever piece of metal is the softer will be 'nicked' again.
    Much enjoyed.

    • @thecinnabar8442
      @thecinnabar8442  6 місяців тому

      I cleaned up those nicks. They are now clearance and if I welded them up, it would take that clearance up. Now that the ejector is hardened, it won't deform and hit the toggle, but stop at the back of the bore where it rides in the bolt.

    • @petert9749
      @petert9749 6 місяців тому

      Thanks for that Mark; I thought you might have fixed it or were about to fix.
      I don't always expect you to take time to reply; on the viewer's end it helps if we at least try to support with activity. Without viewer response UA-cam is dead. Your channel helps our interest area: I'm thinkin of a man to whom I sent a link; he was encouraged. Well done! I am still smarting over the way the advertising 'algorithms' apparently linked certain violent game platforms to your channel. All the shooters I have ever known are Gentlemen and Ladies.
      Thanks Mark; no reply explected.

    • @thecinnabar8442
      @thecinnabar8442  6 місяців тому

      Thanks a bunch for your support. BTW, it was a very good question.🙂

  • @asherdog9248
    @asherdog9248 6 місяців тому

    Look's to me like a Rube Goldberg design Mark😂

  • @bahhab9361
    @bahhab9361 6 місяців тому +1

    how the hell did you get that pin out....bravo

    • @thecinnabar8442
      @thecinnabar8442  6 місяців тому +2

      It took a long while and a lot of patience. After I lost my patience, I couldn't show the process and keep a "G" rating on this channel. 😊

  • @snappers_antique_firearms
    @snappers_antique_firearms 6 місяців тому +1

    Very cool rifle. Being the replica Spring looks right. I am guessing the replicas are a true Representation of the originals?

    • @thecinnabar8442
      @thecinnabar8442  6 місяців тому

      I believe they are. I sure wish I'd bought a bunch of extra parts when they were available. I got the last two of these springs that Numrich had in inventory.

    • @brivas3343
      @brivas3343 6 місяців тому

      @@thecinnabar8442 Just looked and Taylora has 1883 Burgess parts on clearance.

  • @marklaterza4455
    @marklaterza4455 12 днів тому

    I'll bet the black powder residue would gum that ejector up. Seems like not so much clearance.

  • @rottiesrule5285
    @rottiesrule5285 6 місяців тому

    i have a question sir it's off topic but here goes i have a win. mod. 94 made in 1973 by the serial # it was jamming and i found that the finger lever pin was bad and catching,, i ordered another from Numrich gun parts when i went to put it back in the replacement pin was bigger than the one i took out..i've went back and checked all the numbers and the "new old" stock pin i ordered should be right but it isn't..i've took drill bits and sized the hole and it comes out to 9/64ths and i've thought about using it to make a replacement have you ran into this before???? i wondered if a replacement pin for a 1895 would fit? any thoughts you may have would be most helpful on this....

    • @thecinnabar8442
      @thecinnabar8442  6 місяців тому +1

      I rarely work on post-63 so I haven't run into this issue. I save all my broken drill bits and use them for pins when they're the right diameter. Just make sure it's a good fit. If the pin is sloppy, it will prematurely wear the parts. Good luck!

    • @rottiesrule5285
      @rottiesrule5285 6 місяців тому

      @@thecinnabar8442 thank you for the reply the bit i spoke of is a tight fit so it should work i wasn't sure if using a piece of drill bit would work or hurt but it is a truck gun of my uncles wore out but not gone so i'm trying to keep it running for him..once again thank you for answering my question...

  • @jaybailleaux630
    @jaybailleaux630 4 місяці тому

    I'm not a fan of leaf springs. The ejector is a definite design flaw. I bet Colt would change that if they stayed in the lever action business. Nowadays, engineering design flaws do not seem as common as manufacturing flaws.