8 Craziest Group B Rally Cars

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  • Опубліковано 16 гру 2016
  • Today we take a look at some of the craziest cars ever made for the Group B generation of rally.
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    Peugeot 205 T16 Evo 2 Group B Sound - Starts, Accelerations, Flames & More
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    Group B Peugeot 205 T16 E2 "The Sound"
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    Lancia Rally 037 Group B Pure Sound - Warm Up, Accelerations & More
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    Rally Clips - Lancia 037
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    Lancia Stratos HF Group 4 - Ferrari V6 Engine Sound
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    Lancia Stratos supercar with pure engine sounds
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    1985 MG Metro 6R4
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    MG Metro 6R4 - Pure Sound [HD]
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    1985 Porsche 959 out for a stroll 11-19-15
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    Porsche 959 Dakar Rally 1986
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    Porsche 959 Dakar 9° Rally Legend San Marino 2011
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    Saeed Al Hajri Pharaos Rally Porsche 959
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    Saeed Al Hajri in Oman International Rally
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    1984 Ford RS200 Evolution (Pure Rally Sound at Eifel Classic Festival 2015)
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    Ford RS200 EVO Group B rally car
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    Audi Quattro S1 Group B PURE SOUND Turn Up The Volume!
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    Audi Sport quattro E2 "The Sound"
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    Insane Lancia Delta S4 Bruno Ianiello | HD Onboard sound & crazy launches
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    Lancia Delta S4 Group B Pure Engine Sound
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    Lancia Delta S4.. prototype Abarth1984 group B prototipo
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  • @jorgearias4009
    @jorgearias4009 7 років тому +638

    Every group B rally car was crazy

    • @rume8776
      @rume8776 6 років тому +18

      they weren't crazy
      they are always crazy

    • @Dawwwg
      @Dawwwg 6 років тому +6

      * batshit crazy

    • @antonjansson706
      @antonjansson706 5 років тому +3

      yes my skoda to

    • @benji280792
      @benji280792 3 роки тому

      @Davit Andreasyan they where... The accident of the stratos ended the group b.

    • @benji280792
      @benji280792 3 роки тому

      @Davit Andreasyan thats Right, my bad. The stratos was engaged before the delta.
      Some group b, where engaged in the Dakar.

  • @bonofrancou2
    @bonofrancou2 7 років тому +1032

    Wait ? Stratos on Grupo B ? Stratos is a Group 4 car

    • @The303Garage
      @The303Garage  7 років тому +187

      Yeah, for some reason I thought it was Group B car. Oops.

    • @bonofrancou2
      @bonofrancou2 7 років тому +22

      The303Garage ahaha its ok xD

    • @Misano-Red
      @Misano-Red 7 років тому +39

      Always a joy to watch Stratos footage....

    • @StevDoesBigJumps
      @StevDoesBigJumps 7 років тому +10

      Well, you could call it a group B when you look at how tough it was to drive.

    • @noahjones4368
      @noahjones4368 7 років тому +37

      The Stratos wasn't even built in the same decade as the rest of them. No idea why its on the list

  • @floridajake58
    @floridajake58 7 років тому +632

    Group B drivers had balls so big that it would weigh the cars down

    • @daftmell5237
      @daftmell5237 7 років тому +2

      Jacob Miller there cars where still unnecessarily overpowered

    • @mlg_420quickscope
      @mlg_420quickscope 7 років тому +50

      daft mell No such thing as "unnecessary power"

    • @teddyator
      @teddyator 7 років тому +1

      daft mell that's why in my opinion group 4 was far better with those small light rwd cars producing ~150HP

    • @mlg_420quickscope
      @mlg_420quickscope 7 років тому +1

      Lukas Tyrlik no, Finland

    • @katk5205
      @katk5205 6 років тому +14

      Jacob Miller that's why Michèle Mouton was one of the best.

  • @liverush24
    @liverush24 7 років тому +279

    The Peugeot 205 T16 could reach 60mph significantly quicker than 4.5 seconds.

    • @denisceolan2722
      @denisceolan2722 7 років тому +17

      liverush24 The Delta S4 in 2.7 seconds ;)

    • @philip_si
      @philip_si 7 років тому +24

      Dennone 98 2.3* and that was on gravel..

    • @eikumina
      @eikumina 7 років тому +23

      1.9 Did in thousand lakes rally 205 t16 e2. All so when Matti Alamäki bought Juha Kankkunen´s old 205 and but it straight to dyno was there 745 hp.. so how much you really trust what the they tell those days...?

    • @doggSMK
      @doggSMK 5 років тому +23

      They reported 400-550HP but cars where more like 600-800HP in the race

    • @wildbiber
      @wildbiber 5 років тому +3

      Where can we read about this? I can't find anything in Google about... butt seems truth. Need more info, pls.

  • @nealeclark4552
    @nealeclark4552 5 років тому +67

    Toivonen actually lapped the Estoril F1 circuit in a time that would have put the Lancia Delta 8th on the grid at the previous year's F1 GP.

    • @danoninho5880
      @danoninho5880 2 роки тому +2

      It was 8th in testing

    • @nealeclark4552
      @nealeclark4552 2 роки тому +1

      @@danoninho5880 but you get my point.

    • @ayrsellproquet3385
      @ayrsellproquet3385 Рік тому +1

      @@nealeclark4552 you still replied after 3 years?

    • @nealeclark4552
      @nealeclark4552 Рік тому +6

      @@ayrsellproquet3385 I don't have a life. :)

    • @Brainless_Memer
      @Brainless_Memer Рік тому

      I wonder what his time was and some proof that it even happened

  • @pe8268
    @pe8268 7 років тому +296

    In my opinion the S1 has the greatest Sound of all time

  • @fliteshare
    @fliteshare 6 років тому +473

    Group B was NOT abandoned because drivers were killed.
    It was abandoned because spectators were killed and crowd control became near impossible.

    • @1959rui1
      @1959rui1 6 років тому +90

      fliteshare Group B was abandoned for both reasons (public and pilots death - Bettega in 85 and Toivonen / Cresto in 86.

    • @safranebiturbo1
      @safranebiturbo1 5 років тому +24

      it's an excuse but the real reason was the crash in portugal with the ford rs200

    • @1959rui1
      @1959rui1 5 років тому +27

      safranebirurbo1, it's not a excuse. If the Group B incidentes was only Portugal 1986, the B's never ended.
      I don't say this because be Portuguese but only one disater, even fatal, wasn't suficient to end the Group B.
      If you read the FIA (FISA at the time) decision was taken due to a series of events and that the cars were becoming too powerful and moving so fast without other mechanical and security components (brakes, suspension, etc.) accompany this evolution.
      Maybe it was precipitated because the new Group S (never competing) had cars with mechanical component all as it should be, but there are also many other things that have never been properly clarified

    • @samis4660
      @samis4660 5 років тому +15

      Group B was abandoned because the cars became too dangerous. Not because of spectators.

    • @787Martin
      @787Martin 5 років тому +22

      Its was a combination of both. The cars were getting to fast to handle at full capacity ( u don't have abs,esp ect) And the croud and the controle of it was getting out of hand as well. Even the drivers back then said it was not safe or just madness. But the lancia stratos is not a group b car, its group 4. The 037 and the delta s represents lancia in group b. same that there were so many shitty drives or later modified hillclimb cars in the clips. unworthy of the group b legend this...

  • @cschnauz
    @cschnauz 5 років тому +82

    The S4 was an F1 car for the forest. It could do 0-62kph in 2.8 seconds on gravel, more like 3 seconds as opposed to 2, but I like you hyping up the numbers. In ‘86 Henri Toivonen did a lap at Estoril in it that would have put him mid pack in qualifying for that years F1 race!
    The Stratos as sick as it was was a grp4 car.
    And your 959 footage was mostly of the 911R

    • @jbforce10
      @jbforce10 5 років тому +1

      I read that the F1 qualifying that year was in the wet, giving the S4 a huge traction advantage.

    • @pentagrammotorsport
      @pentagrammotorsport 5 років тому +3

      8th on the grid. Although the Estoril WRC circuit was shorter than the Estoril F1 circuit that year plus as already pointed out, the F1 qualifiers that year was in the wet.
      That said, put an F1 car in the forest and it wouldn’t get anywhere. The S4 is a masterful car!

    • @paulcaswell2813
      @paulcaswell2813 Рік тому +1

      @@pentagrammotorsport An F1 car in the forest? It would break within 100 yards!

  • @georgejacob3162
    @georgejacob3162 7 років тому +145

    0:25. Group B from 1982 to 1986. So how come the Group 4 mid to late 1970's Lancia Stratos is here then?

    • @jako1234567890jako
      @jako1234567890jako 7 років тому +1

      Even though it wasn't group B; many still consider it as it was such an amazing car

    • @Frektelfilms
      @Frektelfilms 7 років тому

      They tuned it down for group 4 if i believe

    • @invictussim-racingitalia1268
      @invictussim-racingitalia1268 5 років тому

      -..- think about what you are posting… -..- back to the future?

    • @justincredible5414
      @justincredible5414 5 років тому +1

      Fanboys...

    • @ryanjohnson4593
      @ryanjohnson4593 4 роки тому +1

      Frektel Films the stratos was built for group 4 which was far before group b. The 037 was the successor to the stratos for group b.

  • @paulcaswell2813
    @paulcaswell2813 Рік тому +11

    The Stratos was a Group 4 car, predating Group B by a good ten years! Also, some dodgy examples of various cars are shown - the first clips of the S4 are a converted road car (rear lights give it away, as well as wrong rims). And the T16 at No8? The most successful Group B car of all!

  • @seanmcconomy711
    @seanmcconomy711 7 років тому +39

    The 959 never made into Group B, the class was dead by the time it was finished. The footage you showed was a rally 911 in group A during the late 80's.

    • @KoteDarasuum
      @KoteDarasuum 3 роки тому +1

      Yes, only porsche to race in group b was 911 SC/RS. Also its shame he didnt mention Ferrari 308 GTB.

    • @noo1542
      @noo1542 2 роки тому +1

      True, the 959 was famous in the Dakar rally. Sadly a few misses to mistake a 911 with a 959

    • @manuel-xax
      @manuel-xax Рік тому +2

      The 959 was supposed to join group B, IIRC
      I took few pictures of the "near virginal white" 959 at the 24h Le Mans (86 or 87).
      The 959 also shined in the sands of Paris-Dakar

  • @joshmahto1344
    @joshmahto1344 7 років тому +226

    The delta is, and always will be, the OG rally car

    • @clayton8or
      @clayton8or 7 років тому +11

      Its bloody insane but i still prefer the RS200, wish more were available initially for homologation, I don't even think there are any in the U.S. which is quite a shame, I'll just have to settle with a MR2 for a mid engined car, I even hear kits are available for the MRS and an AWD swap is possible, so who knows...

    • @elkay589
      @elkay589 7 років тому +3

      Josh Mahto Audi ftw :v

    • @joshmahto1344
      @joshmahto1344 7 років тому +9

      Ok. Everyone has their opinion. I just prefer the Delta. #AWDlife

    • @sekusihan
      @sekusihan 7 років тому +9

      Josh Mahto Audi ftw

    • @sekusihan
      @sekusihan 7 років тому +3

      Josh Mahto Audi

  • @greigsanderson9673
    @greigsanderson9673 7 років тому +36

    The 0 - 60 figures are dug shite.

    • @pillluuu6535
      @pillluuu6535 7 років тому +1

      Well Toivonen told in an interview that S4 hit 100 kph in 1,9 secs and 200 kph in 9,6 secs. I dunno if it was on gravel or not.There is more funny stories from Alen and Toivonen if you want to hear about S4.

    • @JackSparrow-tn6ic
      @JackSparrow-tn6ic 7 років тому +1

      If it takes 7.7 seconds from 100 to 200 km/h, that's actually not too fast... either the 1.9 seconds are too low or the 9.6 are too high.

    • @tungabunga4107
      @tungabunga4107 3 роки тому

      @@pillluuu6535 i think hes talking about the "research" the guy did

    • @jayplexy5983
      @jayplexy5983 3 роки тому +1

      @@pillluuu6535 I know this threat is dead but Toivonen said 2.9 seconds, not 1.9. Also many people say group b rally cars did 0-100 in 1-2 seconds when they were more like 2-4 or even slower in rwd cars.

  • @flotech1238
    @flotech1238 7 років тому +4

    duuude that 037 was driving on the old monza layout...love it

  • @ilwertherllx1771
    @ilwertherllx1771 5 років тому +17

    The First obviously the Lancia S4, Onore Italiano 🇮🇹

  • @liverush24
    @liverush24 7 років тому +38

    Tony Pond passed the speed trap at 134 mph on the 1985 RAC Rally - on a forest stage, in his 6r4.

  • @olivermcgill6454
    @olivermcgill6454 7 років тому +39

    Lancia made so many great cars

    • @andywilliams1160
      @andywilliams1160 5 років тому +1

      And they all went rusty in a fortnight, Lancia pulled out of UK market because the cars were so shoody!

    • @karlmeadows4986
      @karlmeadows4986 5 років тому +1

      They never did , the rally S1 was the best

    • @SAINTPONTIUS
      @SAINTPONTIUS 4 роки тому +1

      And now I’m pretty sure they make only one car in one country

    • @HighSockDavid
      @HighSockDavid 4 роки тому +1

      Andy Williams that was the beta it was the bad car everyone remembers not the brand as a whole kind of like amc’s pacer compared to the Amx and Eagle

  • @ozzoruuska3734
    @ozzoruuska3734 7 років тому +77

    lancia and quattro my favourite rally cars of all time.

    • @dosescopetastengo6581
      @dosescopetastengo6581 6 років тому +2

      Respect dude, you know about cars.

    • @dc6191
      @dc6191 6 років тому +2

      037 is amazing

    • @he478
      @he478 6 років тому

      Which lancia?

    • @Taavetti20035
      @Taavetti20035 6 років тому

      Ozzo Ruuska yes they are good cars but quattro is better

    • @lukarancini1630
      @lukarancini1630 4 роки тому

      amistoyota 03 well... no.

  • @2stroke4me
    @2stroke4me 7 років тому +101

    Little sidenote; the rules stated that only the mid section of the production car had to be used. The manufacturer was free to design the front and rear of the car. For instance, the mid section of the Ford RS200 was from the Sierra.
    Technically, the 959 was designed to be a Group-B car, but by the time they could use it in racing, Group-B was banned. So Porsche decided to enter their 959 in the Paris-Dakar rally.
    The Stratos was not a Group-B, but a Group-4 and 5 car.

    • @incubusnb
      @incubusnb 7 років тому +9

      2stroke4me the Ferrari 288 GTO was also originally intended for Group B rally. It would have definitely been something to see Porsche and Ferrari go head to head on a rally stage.

    • @teddyator
      @teddyator 7 років тому

      incubusnb 911 vs 308 GT/B was a thing

    • @notjustmedamnit
      @notjustmedamnit 7 років тому +1

      2stroke4me As in had to be used but could be modified as see fit? How would one else explain the Audi Sport Quattro with a hefty chunk of the mid section actually removed in order to shorten the wheel base, 320mm shorter than the Ur-Quattro?

    • @teddyator
      @teddyator 7 років тому

      notjustmedamnit evolution model of the ur-quattro, I think slightly duffrent ruleset there (don't quote me on that)

    • @maxneale6334
      @maxneale6334 7 років тому +2

      There is a short wheel base production audi s1 that looks the same as the group b car minus the front spoiler, front and rear guards and the rear wing

  • @adamristic2822
    @adamristic2822 7 років тому +219

    renault 5 maxi turbo...

    • @ginodelavega752
      @ginodelavega752 7 років тому +14

      and manta 400,rx7,240 rs....this doc is ......!!! .. and citroen bx4tc,visa mille piste,chrono ............

    • @teddyator
      @teddyator 7 років тому +3

      gino delavega BMW M1,Ferrari 308 GT/B etc.

    • @ginodelavega752
      @ginodelavega752 7 років тому

      Lukas Tyrlik exactly !

    • @flandersbob4301
      @flandersbob4301 7 років тому +16

      Aaaaaah r5 maxi turbo, most insane... 350hp, rwd, ragnotti...

    • @ginodelavega752
      @ginodelavega752 7 років тому

      Flanders Bob and francois chatriot.....on maxi 5 turbo

  • @mazder_2709
    @mazder_2709 6 років тому +8

    the death of the Delta S4 is fucking scary, the driver was feeling sick and hit a tree, causing flames, both of them couldn't get out of the car and all that was left was a burned chassis

    • @rume8776
      @rume8776 6 років тому

      Oh god
      Delta S4 is real crazy shit

    • @jirapatthaenphromrat2910
      @jirapatthaenphromrat2910 6 років тому +2

      Mazder_ *Plastic Fuel tank
      +1 weight reduction -4917264482017363627819101846 safety....

    • @mazder_2709
      @mazder_2709 6 років тому +1

      that's free quick mafs

    • @garyfletcher2487
      @garyfletcher2487 6 років тому +2

      korraja S4 was a beast,at the time it was out accelerating F1 cars of the 80s,a S4 in today's world with all of today's technology would be the ultimate rally car, OK it wasn't as successful as the HF but it is certainty better looking, the quattro sport was one hell of a car but it was to unreliable that was it's only down fall,

  • @claudiomunoz6300
    @claudiomunoz6300 7 років тому +219

    Nice try... but too many errors in rally groups and rally cars specs.

    • @casey360360
      @casey360360 6 років тому +3

      Could you elaborate at all?

    • @mxer4life25
      @mxer4life25 6 років тому +14

      casey360360 it takes minimal knowledge of these cars and minimal time out of your day to Google the cars to know that only about half of those cars were actually used in Group B. The rest were group 4 or 5

    • @deanburger6133
      @deanburger6133 6 років тому +4

      The Race Net thank youuu this guy fucked up

    • @christommo
      @christommo 5 років тому +18

      casey360360 The RS200 was a 1.8 litre engine not 2.8, god knows where he found that one.

    • @antonredhead5863
      @antonredhead5863 5 років тому +4

      Some of the 0-60 times seem odd considering a standard mk1 golf isn't far off 2 of the cars here

  • @neilswift2203
    @neilswift2203 7 років тому

    Cheers. Brought back some good memories of the 80's watching these in forests all over the UK (apart from the Porshe) We even helped turn a few back over onto their wheels.

  • @thejudge-kv2jk
    @thejudge-kv2jk 5 років тому +8

    Loved them all but the 205 has a place for me as my parents had the road going 1.9 GTI and it was great!

    • @michaellooney1089
      @michaellooney1089 Рік тому

      Back in the 80's, a friend of mine had a 1.9 (not 1.6) GTI in RED in MINT condition, and he got rid of it just because the Alternator packed up!

  • @matteovenafro
    @matteovenafro 7 років тому +157

    this is probably the most inaccurate video I've seen on group b, did you even do any research before making the video?

    • @xdYoshi
      @xdYoshi 4 роки тому +4

      @Movie Fan no, only the clips

  • @kevintucker3354
    @kevintucker3354 5 років тому +4

    Yep good job. The last 2 are my favorites for sure. I’ve especially loved the Quattro S1 since 1982 when I was 14 years old and first watched rally races and heard that distinct 5 cylinder growl and the turbo chirp and flutter. Love that car and the Lancia at the end is fantastic as well, the power they squeeze out of a 1.8 four cylinder engine is amazing. I swear I can hear both the supercharger and the turbo sounds! And I know the difference between straight cut differential gear whine and supercharger whine!
    Great video kid thanks!

    • @michaellooney1089
      @michaellooney1089 Рік тому

      I didn't realise until quite recently, that quattro is never spelt with a capital 'Q'!

  • @raymonde4272
    @raymonde4272 5 років тому +5

    I admire the Metro 6R4 for the fact that it was developed in weeks on a very limited budget. But the Porsche 959 is my favourite, apart from being gorgeous, it is so versatile, imagine a Ferrari F40 trying to win the Paris-Dakar race.

  • @ElChasco_official
    @ElChasco_official 7 років тому +12

    the 959 it didnt compete in the gr.b althrough it was designed for this category, but it participated in the rally paris-dakar and won

    • @-ERADEOS-
      @-ERADEOS- 2 роки тому

      And the Stratos was built for group 4.

  • @hinnak1971
    @hinnak1971 5 років тому +8

    I miss the opel Ascona b 400 the Car which drives Walter Röhrl to Worldchampion

  • @Joop.23-2-63
    @Joop.23-2-63 7 років тому +34

    for the record:
    the socalled group A or N needed 5000 units manufactured within 12 months instead of 4000.
    the 205 T16 had a 1775 cc engine.
    the lancia stratos was socalled group 4 car which where 400 units required, like in opel ascona /manta 400.
    the porsche 959 was a prototype car never homologated as a group B and only used in rally raids
    @8:05 and 8:21 is a porsche 911turbo.
    the ford RS200 had 1.8 ltr engine.
    what about the renault 5 maxi turbo and the citroen bx 4tc........

    • @buzzy7844
      @buzzy7844 5 років тому +1

      Very well, and as additional information: The Audi has a 5-cylinder engine, therefore the beautiful sound.

    • @chokey121
      @chokey121 5 років тому

      205 T16 EVO II is indeed 1775 catagorie 1.8
      See XU8T

    • @looniegaming9419
      @looniegaming9419 4 роки тому

      99rsk i thought one difference between the Ascona and the manta was that the manger was grB and the Ascona was gr4

    • @Joop.23-2-63
      @Joop.23-2-63 3 роки тому

      @@looniegaming9419 Agree.........

  • @christoduplessis8177
    @christoduplessis8177 3 роки тому +1

    The 037 is the Mona Lisa of rally cars. Just perfect in every way ❤

  • @joost6994
    @joost6994 4 роки тому +6

    Lancia O37 was out of this world. If you could drive that you were immortal

    • @tungabunga4107
      @tungabunga4107 3 роки тому

      We all wish walter röhrl could be immortal

  • @waynechang8628
    @waynechang8628 5 років тому +6

    Lancia 037 and Delta always my favorite!

  • @user-tl5ue7pb1z
    @user-tl5ue7pb1z 6 років тому +3

    Man I love that Fluttering Sound of the Audi 😍

  • @jm9661
    @jm9661 5 років тому

    Thank you for uploading

  • @deanwilliams7438
    @deanwilliams7438 6 років тому +1

    I grew up listening,and seeing all the best of gp b..and theres no better place to have seen them all in full song in our welsh forests..jeeze i feel old..

  • @druginducedfeverdream1613
    @druginducedfeverdream1613 5 років тому +6

    The difference between the Delta S4 and the rest is fucking bonkers. The acceleration could make the earths rotation change speed I swear...

  • @allancordeiro8798
    @allancordeiro8798 7 років тому +38

    You're right, the delta s4 deserves the first place

    • @donrowe7194
      @donrowe7194 5 років тому +1

      Allan Cordeiro ?? I love lancia but the audi quattro was the best group b car...EVER

    • @donrowe7194
      @donrowe7194 5 років тому

      binnyss look at the group b win stats and you will see audi on top.

    • @jammeslive4050
      @jammeslive4050 5 років тому

      guys. craziest, not best

    • @donrowe7194
      @donrowe7194 5 років тому

      Hamez the Gezer when It comes to group b...they were all crazy so that don't count. Lmao

    • @randomdude239
      @randomdude239 4 роки тому +1

      Don Rowe delta s4 was the fastest and most insane group b rally car ever produced. Full stop, end of story. They were winning hands down the 1986 championship when the tragic ends of Toivonen and Cresto retired them from the competition and saw group B banned forever. The only other car that gave it a run for its money is the Peugeot 205 T16 evo2, from far away though. Audi had the huge merit of introducing 4wd in the rallying word and that gave it an early edge, but as soon as the other competitors caught up with the technology all its inner limits (excessive weight on the front, oversteer and overall poor handling) got exposed. It was a mid tier car at the end of the magic group b era. Still the best sounding of the lot though 👍🏼

  • @CROS69GTO
    @CROS69GTO 5 років тому

    This was a good video. Thank you. Love group b

  • @thegreenbean5891
    @thegreenbean5891 5 років тому +1

    The quattro thought me one thing: you can indeed smoke your tyres on gravel and pull power wheelies on jumps.
    Mind Blown!

  • @Ger_Mc
    @Ger_Mc 7 років тому +12

    The stats are being mixed up between group b, hillclimb and rallycross specs

  • @questaebenzinah2600
    @questaebenzinah2600 7 років тому +7

    Sorry man but Lancia Stratos isn't a Group B. It's a Group 5 then a Group 4 :) Where do you find the outputs? I think there are something wrong with it. However it's a great video and i appreciate your effort. Greetings from Italy!

  • @TheYankmchain
    @TheYankmchain 5 років тому

    You nailed them all! Nice vid and thanks!

  • @PauloRamalheira
    @PauloRamalheira 4 роки тому

    Mazda 323 4WD, Lancia Delta and Nissan Sunny GTI-R 4WD. Thanks for the video

  • @l.s.gangstar2984
    @l.s.gangstar2984 4 роки тому +3

    the Delta S4 is one of the best rally cars ever, i love the 1980's and the 1990's

  • @asp1072
    @asp1072 7 років тому +36

    fire spitting monsters in 4 wheels, Group B was for men

    • @ExcitingTaste
      @ExcitingTaste 7 років тому +29

      And Michele Mouton

    • @simonsirk1251
      @simonsirk1251 7 років тому +4

      ExcitingTaste Lmao true tho. A damn superwoman that one lol

    • @daftmell5237
      @daftmell5237 7 років тому +1

      Aji Satria Perdana it was stupid and dangerous and slower than wrc ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    • @mlg_420quickscope
      @mlg_420quickscope 7 років тому +5

      daft mell Shut the fuck up :D

    • @jakecole7447
      @jakecole7447 7 років тому +2

      He is right.

  • @12ze34
    @12ze34 7 років тому +2

    As far as I know,Lancia Stratos was never part of Group B.It was a 70's car racing on Group A.

  • @rickpinardi7897
    @rickpinardi7897 7 років тому

    those were the days !!! insane rallying and insane spectators!!!

  • @CRB1971
    @CRB1971 7 років тому +6

    Lancia 037 Rallye or Delta S4; the absolute nuts! Search for Delta S4 prototype testing with Alen...awesome!

    • @travisspuhler7065
      @travisspuhler7065 5 років тому +1

      May be nitpicking but why does this guy call it the 37?? In literally every other documentary or mention of the car that I've seen, its been pronounced Ohh-3-7, I mean, that 0 is kinda important!

    • @guanovolante7833
      @guanovolante7833 5 років тому +3

      @@travisspuhler7065 yes zero must be pronunced!

    • @yorkshirethegreat
      @yorkshirethegreat 3 роки тому

      @@travisspuhler7065 I don't know how the Italians and Lancia say "Zero Three Seven", but it had always a misquoted name? It was launched as the "Rally", but history is now calling it, as you say, the 'O'-thirty-seven.

  • @doctorclaw8232
    @doctorclaw8232 6 років тому +5

    Group B needs a comeback

    • @xdYoshi
      @xdYoshi 4 роки тому

      Its too dangerous, it will never come back unless its much more safe

    • @TheRUBrally
      @TheRUBrally 4 роки тому

      We have wrc plus now... The fastest rally cats ever produced

    • @petrihakkinen2336
      @petrihakkinen2336 3 роки тому

      Why? Todays wrc are faster

  • @rcary
    @rcary 6 років тому

    Great reviews

  • @jackrotter9434
    @jackrotter9434 6 років тому

    whats up fellow Colorado brotha! great video my dude. Audi S1 Quattro and the Lancia Delta S4 are def the most insane rally cars... period. Even more so the Delta S4.

  • @cesarcantu9001
    @cesarcantu9001 7 років тому +9

    Dang the RS200 doesn't want to play. One screw up you're fucked. Especially steering that car is just crazy.

    • @teddyator
      @teddyator 7 років тому

      Cesar Cantu it's the mid-engine

    • @memelord4042
      @memelord4042 6 років тому

      It's shite ngl

    • @raymonde4272
      @raymonde4272 5 років тому

      The statos too was well known for being a beast to drive due to its short wheelbase compared to it's width.

  • @exsappermadman25055
    @exsappermadman25055 5 років тому +3

    The Lancia S2 is the maddest, but the Audi S1 E2 is the baddest, you could paint them all black and put them in a showroom and they would still sell today......

  • @Flameboar
    @Flameboar 5 років тому

    Great video!

  • @ViciousOne
    @ViciousOne 5 років тому

    My friend. This list is complete. Insane... but....yeah... wow.

  • @Nickisx
    @Nickisx 7 років тому +4

    The Opel Manta 400?

  • @dsxl1026
    @dsxl1026 7 років тому +10

    Hello Mr.3.0.3 sir. Long time listener, first time caller, if I may, I would like to know where your inspirations came from for your videos? I can definitely see touches of influences from Disney Pixar's Cars 2(the much more superior cars movie) and Dreamworks' Turbo(the unarguably best movie of all time). Thank you Sir

    • @trance9158
      @trance9158 5 років тому +1

      dsxl1026 Dr Demento huh...LOL

  • @speedfreak6683
    @speedfreak6683 4 роки тому +1

    Lancia hat so viele unglaublich gute Rallyautos gebaut, diese Traditionsmarke sollte man wieder Aufleben lassen.

  • @rooneye
    @rooneye 4 роки тому

    What source did you get that the Lancia Delta S4 could do 0-60mph in 2 seconds on gravel?

  • @yipitsme3991
    @yipitsme3991 5 років тому +15

    The T16 had 4.3 bars of boost
    43 bar is impossible it would blow up the engine

    • @Dr1ftop1a
      @Dr1ftop1a 5 років тому +2

      *psi... 1 bar=14,45 psi. But still, 62 psi is the correct one. Although many things are wrong in this video.

  • @supraman2755
    @supraman2755 7 років тому +40

    the 205 t16 was the best tho

    • @rolandet
      @rolandet 7 років тому +2

      Supra Man i was suprised the 205T16 wasn't on, and on top off this list. It is the ultimate Group B car, specially designed for this class, and very loosely designed on the 205gti

    • @megatycon
      @megatycon 7 років тому

      The cars werent placed in a specific order on this list. That means this list doesent have a number 1, 2, 3 (you get it?)

    • @rolandet
      @rolandet 7 років тому

      JR i was only talking about the 205 which is missing in this video

    • @megatycon
      @megatycon 7 років тому +1

      Oh shit sorry, my mistake!

    • @djnkr
      @djnkr 7 років тому

      Supra Man still a good car for the city

  • @johnnotownsend6958
    @johnnotownsend6958 2 роки тому +1

    did my man the 037 dirty, the last 2wd car to win a WRC

  • @ilmeccanico9335
    @ilmeccanico9335 6 років тому

    You put there all we need

  • @inju8056
    @inju8056 7 років тому +7

    some of the clips about 959 are just 911

  • @sportquattro8430
    @sportquattro8430 7 років тому +3

    The 959 content is not to great from the looks of the videos but that's because there is not much video content available, seems like it's more a 911 :P. But you should have mentioned that it could never compete, unless it was practically designed for group b. It was later used for the Rallye Dakar and just was theoretically an adjusted group b car :)

    • @jeanackle
      @jeanackle 2 роки тому

      You got that quite wrong. And the actual story is much simpler: the 959 was designed (among other goals) to compete in the Group B rally championship. By 1986, Porsche had not yet produced the 200 959 cars required to be enrolled in FIA's WRC Group B class, so the 959 would only enter the competition in 1987. But Group B was cancelled in 1986 midway through that season. That's the only reason why the 959 never run (at least as official Porsche team car) in FIA's WRC.
      Porsche did however enroll three 959 in the 1986 Paris-Dakar rally (a rally NOT sanctioned by FIA), where the they finished in 1st, 2nd and 6th positions. The Dakar rally has no production requirements (you can runa a one of a kind car if you want to), and that's why Porsche was able to run three cars in the 1986 Dakar.
      As for the footage, although three actual 959 were raced in the 1986 Dakar, Porsche ran modified versions of the 911 in the 1984 and 1985 Dakar races. These 911 were meant to test several of the different car systems intended to be implemented in the 959 (which indeed they were).
      So, if some of the 1984/85 "959" look like 911, it's because they sort of still were 911...
      But, again, the 1986 Dakar 959 are proper 959.

  • @F13RYPH03N1X
    @F13RYPH03N1X 5 років тому +1

    I’d have a hard time picking between the 6R4 or Quattro. I mean just listen to that V6 in the Metro or that 5 Cylinder in the Audi. They are 2 of my all time favorite engine notes. Just beautiful...!

    • @michaellooney1089
      @michaellooney1089 Рік тому

      quattro is not spelt with a capital 'Q', believe it or not.

  • @wilhelmphillips7474
    @wilhelmphillips7474 4 роки тому

    The footage of Porsche 959 is actually mostly footage of its predecessor, 911SC/RS, but thanks for showing both.

  • @787Martin
    @787Martin 5 років тому +18

    Don't take it to seriously, it is very inaccurate at the least, mostly full with errors. Pls re-do this for the sake of the group b legend, or delete it

  • @ZeronXL
    @ZeronXL 7 років тому +5

    Audi also had a 1000hp version of the quattro but it never made it to the trak because the pilots said that it was too insane to drive. jalopnik.com/270058/crowning-the-king-of-1986-audi-quattro-s1-vs-ford-rs200-vs-lancia-delta-s4-vs-peugeot-205-ti6

    • @xabussas1362
      @xabussas1362 7 років тому +2

      ZeronXL finaly 1 car guy here xD you understand nice xD

  • @pffu100
    @pffu100 5 років тому

    Did the Jag XJ220 has that V6 from the Metro rally car

  • @RTRSPD
    @RTRSPD 7 років тому

    will you post more videos soon?

  • @robertobuenrostro2781
    @robertobuenrostro2781 6 років тому +3

    You forgot the father of the Mitsubishi EVO...
    The Starion

    • @peterdaviesracing
      @peterdaviesracing 4 роки тому

      Suffered the same fate as some other cars, it wasn't competing before the ban was announced and Mitsubishi naturally stopped development of it :(

    • @shredrmk592
      @shredrmk592 4 роки тому

      looks like darth vader in black too

  • @caturwinarno6660
    @caturwinarno6660 7 років тому +8

    my opinion is...the wrc is for boy..group B for A man

    • @daftmell5237
      @daftmell5237 7 років тому +1

      Catur winarno wrc is still faster than group b and not as stupid

    • @jakecole7447
      @jakecole7447 7 років тому

      So if you hadnt had the luck to be born before 1970 you arent a man cause you hadnt have a chance to participate in group B ? Seems very intelligent.

    • @PaoloGiovanoli
      @PaoloGiovanoli 6 років тому +4

      I think Michele Mouton would disagree..

    • @MrPeterheveran
      @MrPeterheveran 6 років тому

      Paolo Giovanoli took the words out of my mouth.

    • @PaoloGiovanoli
      @PaoloGiovanoli 6 років тому

      She was absolutely sick. Röhrl nicknamed her "Wonder Woman", that kinda gives us a glimpse of her skills...

  • @jockrussell338
    @jockrussell338 6 років тому

    did you show the ford rs200 500bhp ?

  • @jacquesleconte8152
    @jacquesleconte8152 2 роки тому +1

    037 just awesome to look at

  • @justincredible5414
    @justincredible5414 7 років тому +50

    Quattro = unstoppable

    • @dc6191
      @dc6191 6 років тому +6

      Justin Credible well the 037 did beat it

    • @turtle_entertainment4112
      @turtle_entertainment4112 6 років тому

      D C didn’t it only beat it once and it broke rules from what I know 😂

    • @turtle_entertainment4112
      @turtle_entertainment4112 6 років тому

      cloridan Beauchamps delta was a beast

    • @invictussim-racingitalia1268
      @invictussim-racingitalia1268 5 років тому +3

      Quattro = Stopped by Walter Röhrl 1983 driving the 2WD Lancia 037 Rally :). Don't try to change the History, "Kartoffeln" :>.

    • @invictussim-racingitalia1268
      @invictussim-racingitalia1268 5 років тому

      If you are so stupid as not to understand the irony, at least try to bring respect to other users... it is so obvious that it was the skill of the pilot and team Lancia to get the better with the 037 2WD against the 4WD Audi S1. We don't need your explanations to figure it out. Kartoffeln!

  • @bonjourdy
    @bonjourdy 7 років тому +9

    Super & turbocharge engine? you mean twincharged?

    • @cplat__9753
      @cplat__9753 7 років тому +3

      supercharger and turbocharger are not the same

    • @bonjourdy
      @bonjourdy 7 років тому +1

      Cplat __ i know, what i mean is that car using Super and Turbo? Twincharged mean a car combine using turbo and supercharge

    • @cplat__9753
      @cplat__9753 7 років тому +1

      ah, well, yeah, both, torque & hp

    • @ratkopocuca8124
      @ratkopocuca8124 7 років тому +1

      yes, supercharged till 4000 rpm and 4000-8000 s4 was turbocharged

    • @bonjourdy
      @bonjourdy 7 років тому

      Ratko Pocuca how many psi?

  • @justushalonen9581
    @justushalonen9581 2 роки тому

    My pick is Audi quattro, because it just has that rally feeling and just seeing that beast flying in the air made me goosebums. Drivers of quattro must had big balls.

  • @redryder1146
    @redryder1146 5 років тому

    Great video except during the 959 segment some of those video clips where of 911s not 959s just thought I would point that out.

  • @DucatiDreamSIC58
    @DucatiDreamSIC58 5 років тому +6

    LANCIA STRATOS Gruppo b???
    🤔🤔🤔

    • @xdYoshi
      @xdYoshi 4 роки тому

      @Movie Fan no, only the clips are stolen

  • @yujo4353
    @yujo4353 7 років тому +10

    #SAVELANCIA

    • @MarchuxProductions
      @MarchuxProductions 7 років тому

      YuJo the rebadged Chryslers Lancia sells now are the best thing to happen to the company since they stopped manufacturing the Delta Integrale.

    • @HighSockDavid
      @HighSockDavid 4 роки тому

      No not as a company but as a racing team there production cars killed them

  • @STEVIEDVD
    @STEVIEDVD 4 роки тому

    Nice, liked and followed

  • @tonytrue4718
    @tonytrue4718 7 років тому

    in 1982-1987 I worked at a Porsche Audi dealership in Vegas I was 21 drove my bosses 5 cylinder quattro every day plus got a lot of factory 959 stuff got to ride in a 959 very special time in history great video thanks

  • @The303Garage
    @The303Garage  7 років тому +31

    Quite Firsty today.

    • @VA_POR_
      @VA_POR_ 7 років тому

      Welp I'm early

    • @jovansremcevic1381
      @jovansremcevic1381 7 років тому

      The303Garage Great video !

    • @AndoniOlea
      @AndoniOlea 7 років тому +3

      The303Garage miss the Renault 5 Maxi Turbo

    • @BrKnOblivion
      @BrKnOblivion 7 років тому +5

      That Bozzy footage of the 205 T16 had a noob driver not worthy of the car. Didn't know how to race it and makes it look awful compared to the actual rally footage.

    • @MrJOEYRULES2
      @MrJOEYRULES2 7 років тому +2

      TrixX PC Gaming my guess is its a very expensive and historical car that they didn't want to push too crazy and possibly crash

  • @tweeny55
    @tweeny55 5 років тому +4

    RS200 had a 2.8 engine??? do some research.

  • @andreaabbondante4153
    @andreaabbondante4153 5 років тому

    Insane ci sarai tu! Era un prodigio di ingegneria e ha messo in fila, anzi in ginocchio, tedeschi e francesi che se la sentivano tanto calla...

  • @GabeItch2
    @GabeItch2 4 роки тому

    I like how the stratos magically categorized to group b now even tho it never raced in group b

  • @wideangle852
    @wideangle852 7 років тому +17

    . .so many inaccuracies makes you wince! . . RS 200 was a 1.8 litre 4 cylinder . . Evolution never rallied in Group B . .was a rally cross car . . that's a completely different sport . . .. . both Porsche 959 (that you love) Lancia 037 and Lancia Stratos were never in Group B . . overall 2/10

    • @GlenD1977
      @GlenD1977 6 років тому +6

      wideangle852 all correct except for the 037, that was a Group B car, just 2wd rather than 4wd and was used until they could get the S4 finished.

    • @felodal7861
      @felodal7861 6 років тому +2

      wideangle852 the 037 was in the first year or 2 of group B

    • @pentagrammotorsport
      @pentagrammotorsport 5 років тому +3

      The 037 was the only two wheel drive ever to beat the quattro winning the 1982 WRC Constructors Title. It definitely competed in Group B!

    • @johnweelands3330
      @johnweelands3330 5 років тому

      The evo was a 2.1

  • @geoff3610
    @geoff3610 7 років тому +8

    the rs200 is my favorite

  • @martso9288
    @martso9288 7 років тому +1

    I personally love the Rs200. It looks really cool and it is quite quick. Just imagine, with a bit of tuning, what could these monsters do on tarmac circuits today.

  • @putuch
    @putuch 7 років тому

    Couple of honorable mentions, Opel Manta 400, Citroen BX4TC. Just to mention the S4 was both Supercharged and Turbocharged in an attempt to eliminate Turbo lag.

  • @james_c7081
    @james_c7081 7 років тому +5

    Lancia stratos isnt group B 😂😂😂

  • @mantatakis
    @mantatakis 7 років тому +3

    those cars have 0-60 mph any time they want and final speed was their choice,only you can choose gear box

  • @ericmuschlitz7619
    @ericmuschlitz7619 4 роки тому

    The wiki page for group b mentions Stratos HF several times. As the car originally ran grp 4 with 24 valves in early '70s then banned and rerun as 12 valve, grp 4 gave way to group b early '80s without the restriction might the older config attempted as b?

  • @VoLuTheR
    @VoLuTheR 7 років тому +1

    damn I got goosebumps on that Quattro

  • @dannystead9420
    @dannystead9420 7 років тому +83

    The Order should've been
    1. Audi Quattro S1
    2. Lancia Delta S4
    3. Peugeot 205 T16
    4. Ford RS200
    5. MG Metro 6r4
    6. Lancia 037
    7. Renault 5 Maxi Turbo
    8. Opel Manta B 400

    • @user-wi4jt8bs8v
      @user-wi4jt8bs8v 6 років тому +2

      There wasn't any order

    • @dc6191
      @dc6191 6 років тому

      Oath

    • @ismaelsantoslima4236
      @ismaelsantoslima4236 6 років тому

      OK

    • @invictussim-racingitalia1268
      @invictussim-racingitalia1268 5 років тому +8

      1. Lancia Delta S4
      2. Lancia 037 Rally
      :)
      3. Peugeot 205 Turbo 16
      4. Audi Quattro S1

    • @1959rui1
      @1959rui1 5 років тому +1

      1. Lancia Delta S4 / Peugeot 205 T16 exequo
      2. Audi Quattro (both S1 and S2)
      3. Lancia Rally (037)
      4. Renault 5 Turbo
      5 MG Metro
      6 Ford RS200 (Maybe this car deserved a better rating but can't give because he came too late to show its worth, or not.)

  • @goldenkai2991
    @goldenkai2991 7 років тому +18

    959 and Stratos never raced Group B, so you only have 6, 959 was developed for group B, but due to series cancellation, was relegated to racing Dakar as the footage shows, read a book or google before making inaccurate videos, big thumbs down

    • @donrowe7194
      @donrowe7194 5 років тому

      The Paradox yep...lol. I grew up on group b rally. A little research goes a long way.

    • @keithrx3c
      @keithrx3c 5 років тому +2

      Not even a mention that the Audi was a 5 cylinder.

  • @marguskiis7711
    @marguskiis7711 6 років тому +2

    Peugeot 205 T16 was simply the best.

  • @jasusmurree3693
    @jasusmurree3693 6 років тому

    It's also insane how good these drivers were. To drive these monsters in the situations they were in, you'd need experience