The Rise And Fall of Stardew Valley's Economy

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  • @JuniperDev
    @JuniperDev  Місяць тому +66

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    • @OverlonGamer
      @OverlonGamer Місяць тому

      I know GMS2 enough just don't have enough time for a bigger project and I'm on my own with million ideas heeelp T_T

  • @batatinha0019
    @batatinha0019 Місяць тому +2599

    can't believe you didn't mention lewis's gold statue

    • @andrewtyrell4795
      @andrewtyrell4795 Місяць тому +314

      Right? Lewis embezzling government funds is definitely hurting the economy of Pelican Town.

    • @grilledcheesesentries5483
      @grilledcheesesentries5483 Місяць тому +25

      That’s what I thought

    • @loke6664
      @loke6664 Місяць тому +71

      That is because it kinda screws up her theory.
      Lewis have been getting in tax money for fixing the issues but he has been funneling it for his own weird vanity projects instead. I don't think Robin is that poorly paid either, I giver her the materials and while she wont get rich on furniture, she certainly made a lot of money from me when she built my wine cellar and built a house for Pam.
      She is probably just making furniture to have something to do and because she likes it, she have earned a couple of millions from me and should be able to feed her family for many years on that even in a war economy.
      Joja pays terrible, there is no doubt about that part (even though both Sam and Shane steals pizza from them to mail to me). I don't think the rest of town is that poorly paid though, I always thought it was a joke about Walmart and similar chains paying terrible salaries.
      Anyways, I will not become the next major even if I could fork up some millions for a campaign. I could sponsor Gus or Robin to run though and pay Clint a million to not run (Clint is terrible and incredible indecisive).
      Anyways, Lewis is the towns problem. Who picks up all the crops you ship? Lewis. Unless you sell to Pierre directly which is a bit of a bother, Lewis controls all the towns food including exports and he likely do it together with Joja since no one in town could buy the 400 or so bottles of Starfruit and ancient fruit wine I produce every week.
      I think Lewis tax that produce or skim it for himself. He likely sells the wine to rich city folk for far more then he pays for it. So you don't have to pay any taxes since Lewis handles that anyways. Wouldn't surprise me if he owns stock in several corporations. too. He could easily fix the economy if he wanted. Heck, by now (late year 6 with perfection) I wouldn't mind pay 5% of all my income in taxes if he asked for it, I don't know what to do with all my money (I assume my cellar have a huge secret gold room or something, I earn something like a million a week).
      But he doesn't want that since it would threaten his position, I think skimming a few percentages of what I ship is more then enough and Lewis doesn't really have to say where that money is from anyways.

    • @andrewtyrell4795
      @andrewtyrell4795 Місяць тому +19

      @@loke6664 Considering their positions in the local economy I don't think Robin or Gus could be mayor since it could become a conflict of interest. I think if we could convince Linus to take the job he'd be pretty good at it. At least he wouldn't be embezzling since he is happy living off the land.
      Oh no. I think Sam might be the perfect candidate. 😅 He has no ties to any of the local businesses and he could use a job. 😂

    • @loke6664
      @loke6664 Місяць тому +14

      @@andrewtyrell4795 The problem with Linus is that it just wont work. He will not move into a house (you can try to persuade him, it wont work), I am not sure how much he understand economy and people like the Governor would make themselves a problem.
      Sam is a pity hire, he does not have the necessary skills and I think both him and Linus lacks the respect needed for the job. Maybe in 15 years..
      You are right that Gus or Robin would affect the local economy negatively although I think Emily can take over the Saloon. It would make Gus miserable though since he loves cooking and his problems of getting Pam to pay her bar bill might mean he is too nice for the job.
      How about Jodi or Caroline? Caroline does help Pierre a lot so she has some economic skills and Jodi have done some community work together with Evelyn.
      Or... Emily for that matter. She is a bit weird but everyone knows her, she works hard and she would make the community a friendlier place. She might be a bit young to deal with the stuffy Governor though.
      Shane would have been great after he sobers up eventually but he has a reputation and he could start drinking again if the job stress him out so maybe in a few years.

  • @Eszra
    @Eszra Місяць тому +1861

    Lewis does collect taxes. When ever you see him inside a shop, normally by the front desk, he's collecting taxes from each business. There is also the Gold Lewis statues, and the fact that he having a secret affair with Marnie that he does not want to make public for his image!

    • @Mykostyne
      @Mykostyne Місяць тому +22

      Goldlewis?! Guilty gear reference!?

    • @Eszra
      @Eszra Місяць тому +9

      @@Mykostyne lol i remember that! Have you not seen the gold lewis is stardew?

    • @solouno2280
      @solouno2280 29 днів тому

      There's a doubt of that statue being done with town's money. You find it out in a spot that had Marnie...

    • @Descriptor413
      @Descriptor413 12 днів тому +7

      And to be fair, going around and talking to people, finding out what their problems are, is kinda a big part of a mayor's job. Especially in a town where there is no other city staff, like Pelican Town. He's mayor, but because the town is so small, there's really not a lot to it.

    • @Eszra
      @Eszra 12 днів тому +8

      @@Descriptor413 The bus was broken down for who knows how long. The kids don't have a proper place to learn other then the library. He allowed the community center to go to shit. Until the player shows up, the town was going to shit.

  • @FlickeringBurningEmber
    @FlickeringBurningEmber Місяць тому +1005

    Another note when you mention the healthcare!
    I forget how many hearts you need with Harvey, I think it’s 6, but he tells you the clinic is struggling. He comments that he might need to start taking patients from towns over. So, this does imply the negative state of the economy, as businesses are struggling to make ends meet.

    • @Zakrovik
      @Zakrovik Місяць тому +66

      That is the clinic. Whose demands and supply depends on people being sick. It says a lot more about the health of the residence of Stardew Valley rather than the economy.

    • @FlickeringBurningEmber
      @FlickeringBurningEmber Місяць тому +21

      @@Zakrovik That’s a good point I didn’t think of! Thanks for correcting me/pointing it out!

    • @Marshall_Francies
      @Marshall_Francies Місяць тому +5

      It's not any number of hearts. I think it just depends on the time of year, or it is just a random quote he can say.
      The only reason I know it isn't specific to a certain friendship level is because I saw the line being said in a newer save file.

    • @AndroidCyclist
      @AndroidCyclist Місяць тому +4

      The typical primary care physician has over 1000 patients

    • @finn8518
      @finn8518 29 днів тому +7

      it‘s hilarious and incredibly sad to see people call a HOSPITAL a business. That is so wild

  • @bluebay1031
    @bluebay1031 Місяць тому +524

    I think there is *some* degree of tourism, since about half the festivals have out-of-towner NPCs you can speak to

    • @Jack_Ceu_e_Terra
      @Jack_Ceu_e_Terra Місяць тому +30

      yep, but I always thought that should've more tourists. At least in the new events like Trout Derby we see many tourists and so on so it gives the impression that there are tourists and festival participants from out of town.

  • @linaith2708
    @linaith2708 Місяць тому +855

    In most (all?) countries in Europe sales tax is already included in the prices on the signs. You pay exactly what the sign says at checkout. The USA is just weird. :P

    • @creativeace4901
      @creativeace4901 Місяць тому +28

      and aus

    • @beingmegucaissuffering.5326
      @beingmegucaissuffering.5326 Місяць тому +39

      For the US at least sales tax isn't included in price tags because sales tax varies depending on the state you're in and I guess manufacturers can't be bothered to calculate the price tags of their stuff in every single state.

    • @synchronos1
      @synchronos1 Місяць тому +125

      Difficulty of making price tags is a very lame excuse. In Europe every country has their own sales tax rate (actually value added tax, but doesn’t matter here). Manufacturers don’t make the price tags anyway. Stores do. Unbelievably, even stores in the same country can sell the same product for a different price. They can even sometimes reduce the price temporarily, believe or not.

    • @happytrails1633
      @happytrails1633 Місяць тому +59

      @@beingmegucaissuffering.5326Manufacturers don’t decide the final price for their products at stores. Manufacturers have a price that they use to sell their products to the stores and then the stores choose their own prices to sell those products to us. So this wouldn’t be a reason for tax to not be added on-to the price.

    • @OceanLaboratory
      @OceanLaboratory Місяць тому +4

      the US is a massive country that values the power of the state.... even if i don't agree with it, it does make sense as to why we don't include the sales tax on the signs. each state has the power to control how much they charge on taxes and what they charge taxes on. for instance, in kansas they do charge for taxes on groceries whereas in other states they do not.

  • @GoodOldQuestion
    @GoodOldQuestion Місяць тому +306

    Quick note: I don't know how it is in other countries, but where I live income tax is already included in the salary. So maybe 5 cents/hour salary is so small because of the big taxes?

  • @astrophysisist
    @astrophysisist Місяць тому +767

    Wasn't there a secret note that showed that lewis was using the towns taxes for a gold statue?

    • @zoroark567
      @zoroark567 Місяць тому +94

      You can find a gold lewis statue behind his house. I don't think it explicitly states that he made it using tax money.

    • @ameliaduncan3236
      @ameliaduncan3236 Місяць тому +74

      @@zoroark567 He gets *really* upset if you place it anywhere in town, plus the fact that he's hiding it behind his house. I don't think he paid for it with personal funds, or he wouldn't be so eager to hide it.

    • @cleliaoconnell3705
      @cleliaoconnell3705 Місяць тому +26

      ​@@ameliaduncan3236 I think the fact that it's a gold statue of himself might be enough for him to be embarrassed

    • @Rynewulf
      @Rynewulf Місяць тому +18

      @@cleliaoconnell3705And that he would make a gold statue of himself probably correlates with being a corrupt mayor

    • @Viennery
      @Viennery 19 днів тому +1

      Could be that Marnie made it for him, which he’s embarrassed by

  • @BU-FL
    @BU-FL Місяць тому +224

    My theory is that each npc is actually a genetic clone of Shane and that they are all going to merge together in Stardew valley 2 to make SHANUS PRIME, a giant mech that you, the player, controls. Stardew valley 1 is probably the prequel, where The Council Of The Elite Shanes (C.O.T.S) decides you are the correct pilot.
    Either that or something something Ash Ketchum is stuck in a coma.

    • @JuniperDev
      @JuniperDev  Місяць тому +37

      @@BU-FL New Terraria mech boss

    • @notme8232
      @notme8232 Місяць тому +1

      @@JuniperDev Drops Souls of Delight, used only to craft farming gear

    • @Kwauhn.
      @Kwauhn. 29 днів тому +4

      That's why Shane drinks so much in the story. He knows he's the original Shane, but it's only a matter of time until he has to give up his consciousness and body so that he can merge with the clones and become the beating heart of SHANUS PRIME. He knows he must shed his mortal coil, but the thought of ceasing to exist scares him to his core.

    • @SuperObamka
      @SuperObamka День тому

      P-3 leaked

  • @ArianeMitFoxes
    @ArianeMitFoxes Місяць тому +151

    Linus chooses to be unemployed, and live off of nature, after the death of Mona.
    Mayor Lewis *does* collect taxes from other business, as can be found within his schedule, of visiting various businesses.
    Within the US, and various countries, farmers currently can be exempt, or have partial exempt, with equipment, farm animals, crops, etc. so it would not be too unrealistic, that the government is providing the same benefits to the player, within Stardew valley. That, or Lewis is allowing you to commit tax-fraud, amongst his other shady actions

    • @nienkehuijbens301
      @nienkehuijbens301 Місяць тому +18

      Or maybe lewis collects your taxes when he takes your produce from the bins

    • @joedacey1155
      @joedacey1155 12 днів тому +3

      Lewis is semi-corrupt as he doesn’t collect taxes from Marnie due to their affair. Whenever Lewis is seen collecting taxes he says that’s what he’s doing, except for when he goes to Marnie’s ranch where he says he’s ’just visiting’

  • @dartimes6048
    @dartimes6048 Місяць тому +55

    The farm shipping bin is probably carrying the entire SDV economy. I read somewhere (don’t know where) that everything that gets put into that bin and sells overnight is sold abroad. If it’s sold abroad that an export.

    • @dartimes6048
      @dartimes6048 Місяць тому +7

      I’m pretty sure Lewis takes from the bin and sells it abroad for a higher price netting the town (Himself) some money.

    • @hallowedbeyourdays
      @hallowedbeyourdays 11 днів тому +3

      The rest of the world is struggling with the weight of the war, meanwhile with a good enough crop we can take away half a million before what Lewis takes for himself/the town.
      I'm just mad about Lewis taking money for the statue from people's tax money. That could've gone to bettering the town.
      Like, BRO. Just ask me! (the player.) I'll do it for the cutscene!
      There's some way he keeps his rewards machine stocked - we can't be doing that badly by the numbers.

    • @BrandonDenny-we1rw
      @BrandonDenny-we1rw 8 днів тому

      ​@@dartimes6048 I know that some of it goes to the town. Ive only ever sold to the bin and ive had villagers talk about the produce i sold and them buying it like strawberry jelly

  • @dropyourself
    @dropyourself Місяць тому +489

    The inflexible labor market is a myth. 100% employment is good for wages and workers but not for business who have to compete for workers instead of workers competing for jobs. The "inflexiblity" doesn't make it harder for workers to find a job, by definition the number of jobs would be greater than or equal to the number of workers, unlike now where the number of jobs is less than the number of workers. Currently some people are forced into destitution, whereas 100% employment would put those unemployed people into jobs that they *might* find suboptimal.

    • @PepperoniMage
      @PepperoniMage Місяць тому +106

      See this immediately jumped at me too. 100% of people having a job means that any employer looking to hire would be at a much greater disadvantage since they'd have to compete with a worker's current employer instead of the threat of poverty. That said, in an ideal world I'd hope people got to work less and didn't have to work their entire adult life but we as a species got a lot to fix before such ideals are feasible.

    • @SableLeaf
      @SableLeaf Місяць тому +32

      This. Even in my country, workers are benefiting greatly from an almost 89% employment by having so many choices for work along with high wages. Granted, business owners would like more options of workers to compete against each other, but most business owners of whom I speak with often state that they can easily compete against each other with better wages (for better employees) to kick out poor performing employees.

    • @namelessanimal3403
      @namelessanimal3403 Місяць тому +9

      i tried to wrap my head around this idea and i still can't fully comprehend it, so please forgive my ignorance. But:
      How "by definition" the number of jobs would be greater than or equal to the number of workers? Like, can't there be less jobs then there are workers? Is'nt 100% mean that all jobs are being done by someone? Therefore there are no job listings, so being fired would mean that on entire market the only free listing would be the one you just got kicked from?

    • @KoopstaKlicca
      @KoopstaKlicca Місяць тому

      @@namelessanimal3403 Yes, you are right. Don't listen to economically illiterate youtube comments

    • @dropyourself
      @dropyourself Місяць тому +34

      @@namelessanimal3403 I think you're misunderstanding the definition of the employment percentage.
      The labor bureau's definition of "unemployed person" is someone who's willing and able to work (something isn't stopping them from working and they are of age) but isn't. If this person couldn't find a job because there weren't any openings they wouldn't be employed and, thus, there wouldn't be a 100% employment rate.
      I think what you're describing is a saturated labor market where there are more people looking for work than there are jobs. This would give employers a lot of power as they can fire workers and hire those who are more desperate unemployed people as replacements.
      Saturation could technically happen if employment was 100% but that's only assuming more jobs were being lost than created which would equally hurt an economy with under the goal of 100% employment.

  • @DanJohnston-rz1pg
    @DanJohnston-rz1pg Місяць тому +107

    6:02 okay, here me out here. Also, spoilers ahead. In haily's ten heart event, she does a chairty run for the childrens new school books, and at the end/twoards the end, robin mentions that Lewis might give them a tax break then. IMPLYING that lewis IS TAXING people for the shcools. Or something close to that. But with the charity run scene, and many other diologs from penny, or even just the fact that there is no school house...what so ever.... dosnt this mean that Lewis is taxing people for the school, without giving the money to the school? Maybe even using it for his golden statue?

    • @cpMetis
      @cpMetis 13 днів тому +10

      I assumed the tax money was being used to pay Penny to teach the kids. It seemed to be her job, not just volunteer work.
      They don't have a school house because there's like two kids, so having the library have a dual purpose as the school makes more sense for the demographics of the town.

  • @sera_kath
    @sera_kath Місяць тому +94

    Ah I see, the bureau of labor statistics hired a new employee.
    Good luck with any direct surveys in the future.

  • @thesongofthelinnet
    @thesongofthelinnet Місяць тому +45

    7:20
    It's entirely possible that the sales taxes are incorporated into the prices already. I know in Europe several countries do that instead of in America where the sale taxes is a flexible percentage that you have to -guesstimate- before going up front to pay for your items

    • @h.1699
      @h.1699 29 днів тому +3

      i got the impression sales tax incorporated into prices is the norm in most of the world (never heard anything other than generally paying what's on the prizetag from anywhere but the US unsure about Canada rn), with exemptions for b2b sales and imports/exports but the latter get taxed by customs and the former is just a simplification as those taxes would be credited towards the business' owed sales tax anyway, making accounting (and sifting through the paperwork to find tax fraud) easier.

    • @OnlyForThePriceOf999
      @OnlyForThePriceOf999 6 днів тому

      @@h.1699 canada doesn't incorporate tax into prices (unfortunately)

  • @Jack_Ceu_e_Terra
    @Jack_Ceu_e_Terra Місяць тому +31

    Lewis is actually a good mail man, he never loses anything, always ship things correctly and doesn't seem to steall our money since the money from the shipping bin is exactly what we would gain from selling directly to the stores (unless it would be more money but he takes the extra to make it resemble what we would gain from selling directly to the stores).

  • @BlackJar72
    @BlackJar72 Місяць тому +154

    I'm not sure Linus would want a job -- I think he chooses his lifestyle as a "wild man" of the mountains. This makes the employment rate 100%.
    BTW: Its pronounced loo + the sound you might make make when hurt.

  • @Asiago9
    @Asiago9 Місяць тому +39

    2:56 oh no, not the foot shortages, what will we ever do without foot

  • @bharatparsiya
    @bharatparsiya Місяць тому +37

    I remember lewis's character dialogue, saying I have here to collect business tax, when at clints. Not sure in which case that dialogue appears.

    • @foureyedelf6151
      @foureyedelf6151 Місяць тому +8

      Yeah he collects taxes from everyone. The player is the only one he doesn't. Which makes sense because he doesn't own a shop and Pierre pays taxes to sell it for you. But since she mentioned it, it is actually strange that Pellican Town doesn't have a bank. Then again they don't have a jail or a post office either. Not even a town hall - the community building doesn't count.

    • @communistflower
      @communistflower Місяць тому +1

      ​@@foureyedelf6151I think they do get taxes from you. When you put your products in the shipping bin Lewis is not gonna sell things overnight, he gives you a standard price for each item. He might as well sell them (or I'd assume it's more about the public administration having contracts with other regions/manufacturers) for more than what you get and then deduct the taxes. E.g. the contract would say that each bottle of wine would be bought with 700g, he collects it at night and gives you only 600g and the difference is the tax.

  • @_rio_2965
    @_rio_2965 Місяць тому +28

    I think a big chunk of gvmnt funding comes from taxes of Pierre reselling stuff we sold him. We get the dialogue that people of Pelican town buy stuff from Pierre and they comment on the quality.
    Or Lewis reselling the produce we put in the bin to the rest of the region. The profit from that could go to gvmn (or him)

  • @dropyourself
    @dropyourself Місяць тому +46

    That intro sounded like Any Austin employment rate videos.

  • @TheEvilMrJeb
    @TheEvilMrJeb Місяць тому +8

    13:40 say it “Lew- ow” It’s Hawaiian, so pronunciation is different. I have got to say, I’m loving the thought put into this video. Normally you don’t see deep dives into life from games like this (with the exception that the theory that Tom Nook is basically the mafia) and despite my “it could be this/that” as an alternative, this was a fun video. Thumbs up from me.

  • @LennyLenington
    @LennyLenington Місяць тому +174

    why does it say emily is a home maker ,she works at stardrop saloon

    • @JuniperDev
      @JuniperDev  Місяць тому +71

      Ahh I can't believe I missed that!!

    • @namii9467
      @namii9467 Місяць тому +43

      Also AFAIK Haley is unemployed

    • @ameliaduncan3236
      @ameliaduncan3236 Місяць тому +31

      She also didn't mention Elliot having a job, he's listed as "writer", but he's not included when the people who are employed are listed. He makes money off of his book once it's finished. He even goes on tour if you get married.

    • @hayzie1
      @hayzie1 Місяць тому +8

      @@namii9467I originally agreed with this idea that Haley is unemployed, but now that I'm thinking about it, do you think Haley is selling her photos? Perhaps her photography hobby could be making some money for her as an artist. probably not enough to justify her position in the labor force, but it is a thought.

    • @chappellgroan
      @chappellgroan Місяць тому +25

      @@hayzie1 Haley does OF

  • @Jeuxetgobelins
    @Jeuxetgobelins Місяць тому +48

    Lewis is Stardew's real antagonist

  • @2wayalley743
    @2wayalley743 Місяць тому +9

    Haley's 14 heart event shows Robin and Pierre confronting Lewis about business taxes

  • @MazerTime
    @MazerTime Місяць тому +19

    Usually, in most countries (usa is the exception) sale tax is already in the price. So, if you want to earn 90g on a seed, and there is 10% tax, the price you write is 100g.
    I also think it's likely we get taxed by lewis when we sell through the box, and selling in town is probably just a gameplay consideration. But think about it. Why do we sell ore for 10g but clint sells it for 150g? Obviously, clint marks up the price, but is it by 1500%?
    More likely, clint pays a tax, probably higher tax for iron since war. let's say he paid 50% tax- so he actually earn 75g. You sell for 20g and actually get 10g.
    This is just an example with completly made up numbers, but i think included tax is reasonable to assume.

    • @KenikoB
      @KenikoB 10 днів тому +2

      Actually the seed would be 99g if the tax is 10%

    • @MazerTime
      @MazerTime 10 днів тому

      @@KenikoB correct, i should have put it on 110 to earn 100

  • @batatafrita2783
    @batatafrita2783 Місяць тому +12

    I wish there was a way to run for mayor, cause I'm damn sure the farmer would win by a landslide

  • @nicholasariza7173
    @nicholasariza7173 Годину тому +1

    This channel is pretty cool, im glad my fyp recommend you. 😅

  • @Miihau_
    @Miihau_ Місяць тому +31

    4:11 Emily as a Home maker? I thought she works so much at the Saloon .
    also,
    great video :3

    • @halien6384
      @halien6384 Місяць тому +7

      she does work at the saloon. interestingly she says she works there part time but if you look at her schedule she is there from 3:30 p.m. - 12:30 a.m. five days a week.(nine hours a day.) So that would make her full time

    • @Miihau_
      @Miihau_ Місяць тому +6

      @@halien6384 maybe full-time in pelican town is 18 hours 💀
      With only 6 hours for sleep

    • @mrripplefluff
      @mrripplefluff Місяць тому +1

      yeah i noticed that too

    • @Jack_Ceu_e_Terra
      @Jack_Ceu_e_Terra Місяць тому +3

      @@halien6384 I always tought that she started working at Gus' store as an part times but without realzing while trying to help Gus she ended-up becoming an full time employee. I also think that Gus pays her as a full time employee if he has enough money for it since it fits his personality bether than baing unfair with his payments, or maybe she is indeed a fulltime employe but she and Gus agreed to pay her as an part timer because Gus doesn't have enough money to pay her as an full timer. That suits her personality as well, since she always wants to help people, and if that's the case Gus must fell a lot of gratitude for her, and must've felt badly for not being able to pay her accordingly (that suits his personality ^^).

    • @SimuLord
      @SimuLord Місяць тому

      Emily also implies that she and Haley are living primarily off their parents' wealth, suggesting that they're either getting a stipend or that they got an inheritance.

  • @Cgg_0456
    @Cgg_0456 Місяць тому +15

    Linus is a person who doesn't WANT a job, he wants to live with nature

  • @emmalottie3346
    @emmalottie3346 16 днів тому +3

    Yes but you also dont need to eat food. So that salad is a luxury item saving time. Especially when you have the spa to recover at as well

  • @RieyonL
    @RieyonL Місяць тому +5

    2:55 foot shortages

  • @Twitchi
    @Twitchi Місяць тому +20

    7:15 - American statement - Sales tax is show in the displayed price in most places outside of the US (mostly)

    • @Ahweb
      @Ahweb 13 днів тому

      Agreed, I was quite surprised by this assumption as well! Most countries have a VAT tax that's already taken into account in prices

  • @Zakrovik
    @Zakrovik Місяць тому +6

    I think the town also generates income from exports to other villages. Lewis himself, I think handles the exporting to other villages. Exporting crops, OUR CROPS at a cost + % margin.
    So just to be clear, we sell to Lewis and Lewis exports it to other villages in the region.

  • @mohLuk7121
    @mohLuk7121 Місяць тому +6

    Let's GOOO!!! NEW VIDEO!!! You’re looking absolutely AMAZING as always

  • @lunabeca8127
    @lunabeca8127 Місяць тому +8

    Sometimes you can see lwis collecting taxes from various shops, like clints

  • @evanderitcock3217
    @evanderitcock3217 Місяць тому +7

    The Mayor has a golden Statue he's totally embezzling money

    • @ricefarmer-kr4yv
      @ricefarmer-kr4yv Місяць тому +2

      If he like gold so much why he mad when i trimmed his lucky purple short and sell it in bulk on fair day

  • @l00k69
    @l00k69 28 днів тому +3

    8:10 alternatively, mayors in Stardew Valley don't have the power to collect local taxes

    • @KenikoB
      @KenikoB 10 днів тому

      He actually says that's what he's doing while walking around to stores

  • @plasmamuffin1320
    @plasmamuffin1320 Місяць тому +8

    Any Austin looks different today

    • @80nt
      @80nt Місяць тому +2

      removed the hairclips

  • @QuarkOfficial
    @QuarkOfficial Місяць тому +19

    My view of this innocent town has been irreparably tarnished. I hate that I watched this.

  • @sylvan4042
    @sylvan4042 Місяць тому +14

    talking about unemployment gave me Any Austin vibes

    • @JuniperDev
      @JuniperDev  Місяць тому +4

      @@sylvan4042 No shot! I love his channel and I was super inspired by him to make this video(:

    • @CathrineMacNiel
      @CathrineMacNiel Місяць тому +3

      Direct Survey!

  • @Internoobs
    @Internoobs 15 днів тому +2

    For a second there I thought Any Austin transitioned, but no its a whole other channel. UA-cam always needs more people doing investigations into obscure videogame areas, keep it up!

  • @ArvanCC
    @ArvanCC Місяць тому +21

    Video Quality: Top Tier
    Video Subject: Cozy
    Outfit: Fire. Downright neuron activating.
    I really hope these gain traction and you can make more.

    • @JuniperDev
      @JuniperDev  Місяць тому +4

      Thank you!! I hope so too (:

  • @MinecraftssakTM
    @MinecraftssakTM Місяць тому +15

    Flat prices in shops does not exactly mean the tax is not included. In most places outside US tax is included in the price, you dont add it up by yourself

  • @thatonepossum5766
    @thatonepossum5766 Місяць тому +15

    13:40 that’s pronounced “loo•ow”. It’s that party thing from Hawaii. :)

  • @Viennery
    @Viennery 19 днів тому +2

    I disagree with your take on Lewis being lazy and not taking for a couple reasons:
    1. We see him collecting taxes from some of the businesses
    2. His tax pool is 40 impoverished people, meaning the taxes he does collect is minuscule
    3. He rises earlier than our farmer to transport hundreds to thousands of quantity of fresh produce, preservatives, drinks, resources, etc which hens have to be insanely dedicated and hard working to do each day so quickly.
    Also, there is a bank. You just have to fix it. Maybe the war caused the government(or enemy) to raid it, because it’s in a pretty sorry state.
    Lastly, the government isn’t going to divert resources to a town of 40 people in times of war, they’ll divert to the nearest major population center; Zuzu city.
    The fact that they even have a local doctor is honestly a miracle.

  • @MsJackieJack
    @MsJackieJack День тому

    8:08 in my game I just walked into mayor Lewis collecting business taxes from Clint. It’s not a cutscene, just a repeated dialog from the mayor inside Clint’s house: “I’m here to collect Clint’s business tax.”

  • @jondabomb278
    @jondabomb278 2 дні тому

    Wassup good video, commenting for the algorithm because obviously this is popping off in the Stardew algo

  • @samantharevels1025
    @samantharevels1025 Місяць тому +2

    This is an awesome video; Keep it up!! I love the combination of education with videogames that I love ☺️ Makes learning not feel like learning lol

  • @gemstonejasper17
    @gemstonejasper17 Місяць тому +3

    Lots of good points, but i was waiting for you to mention Lewis' gold statue or the fact that he pays off the player (and possibly others, like Pierre) for things like keeping his shorts and statue secret

  • @tylerholmes4821
    @tylerholmes4821 7 днів тому

    The foot shortages at 3:00 lol

  • @kovaxim
    @kovaxim Місяць тому +2

    Huh, that's interesting. Never thought about it that way.
    I always assumed that th research Demetrius and Maru do is their own, their equipment and their work, they fund themselves or rather they paid for all of that themselves.
    Penny teaches Vincent and Jas on her own, maybe she gets compensated from their parents, I don't know.
    I never thought about these things as I usually just played the game, worrying about my farm, making money so that I can get seeds or buildings placed on my property. I never thought about where the money came, I just saw the money being counted at the end of the day and that's it.
    There are funny artworks on Reddit from people like the one where Myor Lewis wakes up at like 3 AM in Marnie's bed and has to go to the farm because of course the Farmer had to put stuff in the shipping bin, only to discover around 2000 bottles of wine and has to use a forklift to transport them.
    We think of Mayor Lewis as a scumbag for making a gold statue of himself, but looking at the value of bread and other things, it turns out that it's not so expensive as we thought it was. Our world has a lot less gold than the world of SV does.

  • @orestes_io
    @orestes_io 12 днів тому

    I needed something to watch while eating sushi in my car. I have never played Stardew Valley but this video was so entertaining! Subscribed :)

  • @Silentgrace11
    @Silentgrace11 Місяць тому +2

    Just as a small point of note: you list Emily as a homemaker in your employment analysis as seen at 4:26, but she works at the saloon.

  • @alberozuko
    @alberozuko 4 дні тому

    Great video! i alwaysassumed that the main character wasn't the only farmer around, and that basically every "player" that plays the game is in the same place and is a farmer, the cooperative farm being all the players together and that's how the economy worked, but for obivous gameplay reaosns they couldn't show you the other players. Interesting possibility.

  • @genderenigma8276
    @genderenigma8276 Місяць тому +3

    Great video! Also, Luau. The Hawaiian luau(loo-wow).

  • @Dadwar_Real
    @Dadwar_Real 28 днів тому

    Stardew creator: haha funny farming game
    Juniper Dev: what could be the socio-political meanings of this?
    awesome vid lol

  • @nervix7096
    @nervix7096 23 дні тому +1

    Quick correction on Robin constructing something for 100g: The friend house is subsidized, so she is making more than just the 100g.

  • @detective2656
    @detective2656 Місяць тому

    This is such a good video! You really explain this well, and I love your voice

    • @JuniperDev
      @JuniperDev  Місяць тому

      @@detective2656 Thank you!

  • @awpenheimer1396
    @awpenheimer1396 Місяць тому +2

    The Stardew Valley economy breaks when I get access to ginger Island and thousands of kegs

  • @Inucroft
    @Inucroft 16 днів тому +1

    On the point of taxes/sale Taxes
    Most countries, Sales taxes are automatically included in the Price Listed for the product/service.
    The Food/items you sell via the Shipping crate is managed by the Mayor, so your income from that might have already been taxed

  • @Donkringel
    @Donkringel 11 днів тому

    Evelyn also runs the community garden, which could be considered a "Victory Garden."
    In WW2 americans were encouraged to begin creating gardens throughout the community to help feed community members and lessen the food shortages that the war brought.

  • @QuestioningYourSanity
    @QuestioningYourSanity Місяць тому +2

    Now I want a DLC where the player pulls a "Bank of Dave" and then becomes mayor and the government has you recruiting the town to defend the village from the pending war.

  • @anthonymcelveen6711
    @anthonymcelveen6711 26 днів тому +1

    Listen he may not be the best mayor but Lewis is a financial wizard given that the price of starfeuit wine hasn't crashed through the floor after my 12th shipment of 8000 bottles this month.

  • @haybail7618
    @haybail7618 Місяць тому

    I enjoyed every last minute of this video. Subscribed

  • @Darthmufin
    @Darthmufin 10 днів тому

    Don't forget about the life sized GOLDEN STATUE of the mayor that he hides in his backyard. im surprised you didn't bring that up lol

  • @TheWaterlooWatermelon
    @TheWaterlooWatermelon 2 дні тому

    OHHHHHH! So, what you're saying is that me passing out in the mines 50 times is what funds the festivals.

  • @CSGhostAnimation
    @CSGhostAnimation Місяць тому

    This video is so hilarious to watch lmao. Love it

  • @hallowedbeyourdays
    @hallowedbeyourdays 11 днів тому

    Also - aside from erratic and sporadic mine-and-forest clearing of hostiles by the player, regional security is maintained by exactly one man; Marlon.
    I'm thinking that he's good enough at what he does to always pick you up during his 3am sweep when you collapse face-down into the mud from exhaustion. But the fact doesn't change that there is a singular individual with no known reserves or support covering every bit of Pelican Town.

  • @victorfromheart
    @victorfromheart Місяць тому +1

    What’s about all the magic?
    The tremendous amounts of iron, gold and copper in the mines, useful for war?
    What’s about the fact that trees can grow in a week?
    I think they have an entirely different “dimensionally“ different economy there.

    • @jackalenterprisesofohio
      @jackalenterprisesofohio 13 днів тому

      I think they're stuck in a time loop, I know soo orginal, right?
      But it is an abandoned mine, just became a war is going on doesn't mean they would reopen it.
      I should know I live in a town where that happenee, it used to have a big coke (its like coal) production but then went "bust" around the same time as the Great Depression, and unfortunately by the time the US entered the Second World War, the technological advances in iron and coal whatever, make the infrastructure and junk where I live outdated, so it would have not been worth while to reopen any of the stuff.....

  • @zoroark567
    @zoroark567 Місяць тому +4

    I think in reality the gameplay and lore just dont mesh together all that well. The game's messaging is pretty firmly anticapitalist meanwhile the gameplay indulges capitalistic desires pretty heavily. I mean, theres a machine that can manufacture rare minerals from no input. One crystalarium making diamonds already generates more income than 24h/day minimum wage, and while its expensive to build, it is literally free to operate. I think these inconsistencies are moreso us looking at the seams around the game we're not really supposed to see than they are deep lore about the geopolitical state of the valley.

    • @JamesLacroixx
      @JamesLacroixx Місяць тому +5

      It isn't really anti-capitalist, it's just anti-corporation and pro-small business?

  • @Hannykinz20
    @Hannykinz20 Місяць тому

    Here's a thought: What if in some sort of patch, the villagers start to realize that the mayor has been pretty much useless and they want to re-elect for the position? You, the player, could be one of the candidates that runs with a campaign and all of that. IF you win, you become both farmer and mayor. And being Mayor, you can't do ALL of your farm chores. So you HIRE people either within the town or outside of town to help you run the farm while you perform your town duties. That would be fun.

  • @jegaevi7371
    @jegaevi7371 Місяць тому

    Such a well made video, I subbed after a minute. Keep it up!

  • @MissCutechan
    @MissCutechan Годину тому

    Actually if you talk to Mayor Lewis when he’s in businesses sometimes he mentions collecting taxes.

  • @NotTheWheel
    @NotTheWheel 13 днів тому

    lmao this is a terrific examination of such a cozy game.

  • @Epicc013
    @Epicc013 9 днів тому

    I love stuff like this is there a certain type of video that this would be ?

    • @JuniperDev
      @JuniperDev  9 днів тому

      @@Epicc013 Not sure hahaha, kinda just me passionate in a niche. Economic analysis though check out @AnyAustin here on YT

  • @persocomrade
    @persocomrade Місяць тому

    Love this sort of analysis-please post more! :^)

  • @SLEPStudios
    @SLEPStudios Місяць тому +18

    5 likes? lemme fix that

  • @thexsoar
    @thexsoar 26 днів тому +1

    What always get me is the mail/ There's no post office, yet everyone has a mailbox, you get mail regularly. How far do they travel to deliver it, and how? Postal workers don't live in town so it is from somewhere else in the state.

    • @JuniperDev
      @JuniperDev  26 днів тому +1

      @@thexsoar LMAO that's actually hilarious.. never thought about that..

    • @jackalenterprisesofohio
      @jackalenterprisesofohio 13 днів тому

      Well, did you know in real life, atleast in the U.S. if you put a letter you want to send in your own mail box the postal worker is actually supposed to take it and mail it? That what that little red flap thing was supposed to be for, but since hardly anyone does that/knows about it, if you did, I doubt the post office worker would actually do it now adays.

  • @envykki
    @envykki Місяць тому +3

    the usa is just weird in that we don’t have tax already included in prices unlike a lot of other countries ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  • @lukaszkups
    @lukaszkups Місяць тому

    I didn't expect soo in-depth analysis - great job! 💛

  • @xunzi4327
    @xunzi4327 15 днів тому +1

    You forgot that it said that wage starts at 5g. That means anyone could be making anything above 5g

  • @chikii270
    @chikii270 День тому +1

    The hollow knight music goes hard ❤️

  • @TehBurek
    @TehBurek Місяць тому +3

    Not nearly enough hair clips, but I'll allow it.

  • @Morecolour
    @Morecolour 10 годин тому

    love your vids so bad, so well made

  • @onecst
    @onecst Місяць тому +4

    one of 16.3k subs helping fix the economy 👍

    • @JuniperDev
      @JuniperDev  Місяць тому

      @@onecst you a real one :D Thank you!!

  • @R33fth3b33f
    @R33fth3b33f 6 днів тому

    Shane also sells his chickens and eggs and sam is in a band that performs so im guessing everyone has some side hustle.

  • @theoliverisme
    @theoliverisme 11 днів тому

    holy gawd, great creator ahead!

  • @Laiandora
    @Laiandora 26 днів тому

    This is so nerdy, i love It!

  • @jackalenterprisesofohio
    @jackalenterprisesofohio 13 днів тому

    I've always asumed that Lewis just deducted the taxes when he picks up all the junk I throw in the bin, at night.

  • @jojoirish8523
    @jojoirish8523 Місяць тому +1

    Fiona Sangster my queen would love this video.

  • @colbyreader
    @colbyreader 5 днів тому

    As someone who lives in a small town, a strong community willing to help for trade rather than money is how you stay afloat. If you’re not ready to throw your eggs in for the egg festival there won’t be an egg festival. Also, because a lot of us have food and money insecurity we share a lot of food and don’t ask others to give us money (generally. There are always exceptions to every rule)
    I’ll also say that Gus will give free food if someone is in need.
    And then Mayor Lewis has always been mayor, why change it? That’s what the old people think. It’s up to the young people on minimum wage to change that

  • @ryuichimiyazaki5620
    @ryuichimiyazaki5620 Місяць тому +1

    Wow, Im on year 3 and I had no idea there was a war going on…

  • @Emileigggggh
    @Emileigggggh Місяць тому +3

    "Joja pays 5g an hour" well now I feel bad for being able to afford the golden clock...

    • @maddiewaters7112
      @maddiewaters7112 Місяць тому +2

      How is Shane able to afford his drinking habit when a single beer costs 400g, that's two weeks worth of wages lol

    • @ricefarmer-kr4yv
      @ricefarmer-kr4yv Місяць тому

      @@maddiewaters7112debt i think

    • @ricefarmer-kr4yv
      @ricefarmer-kr4yv Місяць тому

      @@maddiewaters7112or he have that asian 20 hours work per day

    • @ObIitus
      @ObIitus 5 днів тому

      @@ricefarmer-kr4yv Or employee's discount... Or Joja instead of paying in money pays in own shop certificates (not that bad of a deal since they provide any service you may want, be it a can of beer or urban engineering project).

  • @alyssawilson9623
    @alyssawilson9623 Місяць тому

    This is literally amazing and so informative

  • @YossiZinger
    @YossiZinger Місяць тому +3

    The word "Luau" in Stardew Valley is pronounced as "loo-ow" (IPA: /luːaʊ/).
    This pronunciation comes from Hawaiian, where the word originates. In Hawaiian culture, a luau is a traditional feast often accompanied by entertainment.

  • @Alte.Kameraden
    @Alte.Kameraden 2 дні тому

    Government spending part.
    1. Sales Taxes are often included in the price in most places with the USA being an exception.
    2. Technically the State doesn't build the roads, businesses paid by the State do. Historically, even private citizens would fund road building projects because it benefited the town. Andrew Carnegie for example built the firsr all Steel Bridge across the Mississippi River at one of it's widest points. So the State isn't necessarily required for infrastructure upkeep. It's just in modern times we've gotten used to and reliant on it.
    Basically Stardew may be so remote that the public at large pays and does most of the infrastructure upkeep and not the State. It's how it worked for most of human history as well. Collect funds (not taxes) then pay local builders to fix a road or bridge. Local businesses would often donate because they need those road/bridges to operate.

  • @Longplaystudyandsleep
    @Longplaystudyandsleep 3 дні тому

    13:16 mayor Lewis and Marnie have the monopoly of Hay if you sell the hay that you give to cows and chickens lewis will give you 0 gold for it, that explains hownhe manage to have money for all the events and statues

  • @dasirrlicht5415
    @dasirrlicht5415 29 днів тому +1

    Obviously, the best way to find out how the Economic situation is is via a direct survey by the Bureau of Labor Statistics... Wait, wrong channel.

  • @348joey
    @348joey Місяць тому +1

    3:00 "foot shortage"?