I have been researching E Bikes for six months , watching all the side by side comparisons on speeds etc. I have been weary of buying an online bike that I would have to assemble. Yours is the first "Common Sense Video" I have seen on UA-cam.!!! You are addressing the most important aspects of an E Bike purchase. No review I have watched has addressed the issues you have brought up . What is the company's reputation on support , where can one get an online E Bike repaired, are parts readily available. I decided recently that I am buying my E Bike from a local dealer ! The Aventon line is high on my list of E Bikes to purchase. Thank You so much for the very important video !!!!
Thanks for a very informative video on ebikes. I am seeking one as I am 71 going on 72 retired and have ridden a bike all my life. I rode my Marin titanium mountain bike that I bought for $3,000 in the mid 80’s back and forth to work as a school teacher for years. I am very thankful for your knowledge.
A lot of this is his personal take mostly for utility commuter bike. Summary: buy an Avenden Level. Points: -do the wires disconnect for maintenance? -are electric parts available? -are tires heavy duty? -are the rear spokes thicker? -does it have hydraulic disc brakes? -name brand brakes? -frame quality. -step-thru frame. -name brand battery and amp hr. Capacity.
I looked at a lot of e bike videos before purchasing 2 e bikes. None of them were as good as yours. Luckily, I bought 2 Aventón Pace 500 2022 models and they now come with front and back lights. We pick them up in 2 days. I feel so good after watching your video and to know we bought a good brand and we bought it from a local bike shop that can service them and get parts.
Thank you for the information, I honestly didn't think about the little things, you sir have convinced me to get an AVENTON bike. Wish I could purchase it from you but I live in FL.
Great video. Thanks, really helps us to consider important factors that we had not thought of Side tip to consider- no need for the music in background, rather just hear your great tips or maybe just lower volume 50%
Well agreed! If I still lived in Cali I would go to him just on this video alone when I had the funds to buy an e-bike. Either way, great information and things to think about. And true so many e-bikes esp the ones I kept saying oh wow nice...cost waay out of my league of 5K + which I never expected to cost but can understand. interestingly enough Aventon recently came upon my radar and to see this video adds another layer to consider. Greets from NYC! Amazing and wonderful information in this video! Gracious groovy gratitude p.s. how are there ANY dislikes to this video?
Bumstead's is my local Aventon dealer. My daily commute is 26 miles RT over mostly flat pavement. After paying $5/gal for gas earlier this week, I began researching suitable e-bike options at the $2000 price point. Short story short, I purchased a Level [LG] with lighting and puncture-resistant tube/liner kit on 3/19/22. Total out-the-door cost was $2,038.02. The value of my first e-bike will ultimately be determined by the quality of service that Aventon and Bumstead’s are able to provide over the useful life of the product. So far, I'm optimistic.
I bought my Aventon Aventure e-bike from Lloyd at Bumstead’s about a month ago. I couldn’t be more pleased with my purchase and the great customer service I received from Lloyd and his staff!
i made the mistake of just ordering something off Amazon. then I turned it over to a now former coworker so he could get to work. he wrecked it. i had to search out a shop to fix it, bent rim had to be replaced, the big bike store in town wanted nothing to do with it. finally a store like this one helped me out and the bike is better than new. i would have probably been better off buying a bike from that shop.
Hey LLoyd , found this video on ebikes and there you were, So nice to meet you today and I must say after I test drove this E-Bike today at your shop I was sold on this Great bike. I cant wait to pick up my new bike.. Thanks again for your information and friendly service and letting me test drive this awsome E=-bike...Cheers J.Q.
The problem with most of the new ebikes is that they can't provide replacement batteries a year or two after the launch of the ebike. Many have proprietary motor/batter combinations.. this means that you can only use a bosch battery with a bosch motor... shimano with shimano..etc.. remember what happened to one of the best motors/battery BionX.. they went into business with GE to build a new ebike, and because BionX was unable to fulfill the terms of the contract, GE SUED THEM OUT OF BUSINESS.. BionX was a proprietary system, the battery and the motor had chips that talk to each other.. one will not work without the other.. The Bionx motors were top of the line at the time.. But after they went out of business, the consumers with a BionX no longer have a place to buy a replacement battery.. Proprietary systems are not GREEN when you have to throw the lithium battery and the motor into a hazmat landfill because they are now unusable (even though the motor works perfectly) NOT GREEN. My advice, if you are going to buy an Ebike or Ebike kit, choose one that you can use generic (non-proprietary) components.. It will be cheaper and last longer and not end up in HAZMAT Landfills..
its also just the fact they have to fit into that downtube and connection. But i mean its common to replace the motor and battery, whether its DIY or not. That has nothing to do with it going to into a landfill, which it will regardless.
@@cooloutac i think you missed my point.. when you don't buy proprietary motor/battery combos, that gives you far more options for replacements on the road.. And when you have to replace a proprietary motor or battery that has gone bad, you limit your options.. If you have a non-proprietary battery, most of those can be rebuilt by replacing cells.. you can't do that with those like Bionx, STEPS, or Bosch batteries because the cells are glued in, those must be completely trashed.. (and they are more than double the cost to replace.) (and they don't offer alternative voltage(ie 52v vs 48v which are interchangeable on systems like Bafang) Economically those are easier to find parts for and cheaper to keep running at the same time give you options for more or less power or range. Ride Safe my friend..
@@rdkuless I agreed with that point. Just disagreed with your reasons as to why lol. You can replace cells on any battery but not something I would do with any.
Excellent video. We bought our Dutch made Gazelle ebikes from our local bike shop and the importance of parts an repairability was important in our decision to invest in $3000 bikes. They have been worth the investment and we frequently ride more than 20 miles. The battery range can exceed 70 miles on these bikes.
Good video, the advice can be applied to bikes in general - any good bike will be a assembly of parts from other companies and not some weird welded on solution. And usually the tradeoff is you might get a shifter or pedals you'll want to upgrade after a year. I've taken walmart bikes to shops and gotten them serviced/repaired just fine but only because I chose a bike that was actually serviceable cuz while it's great that a shop can work on your bike - the shop can also be really busy, so the benefit is more that you yourself can potentially service it.
Excellent video. By coincidence, we bought 2 Aventon Level models yesterday, before seeing your video. Having just viewed it, I'm feeling even better about our decision to buy locally rather than from a competitor that only sells on-line direct to consumer.
My local E-bike dealer just hates "online" bicycles brands because when they break, he gets to play the guessing game to how it was build, which is why they convert regular bicycles to E-bike using a Bafang motor, sure there are more wires visible, but you can replace things in minutes or test them. E-bikes look pretty with all their hidden parts and wires but are a nightmare to fix.
its really not that bad actually. usually its just a matter of taken out the battery, then unscrewing the bottom plate the battery connects to. and pulling out the controller tucked in there. I think the main advantage to custom DIY builds, is that the controller is not in a hotbox so less likely to burn out. And the way a homeowner can test a controller without swapping, is to replug the connections or check with a multimeter.
Thank you so much for making this video! I suffer from severe anxiety that prevents me from driving, so this is much needed advice on a big buy I’m planning to make. 😊
Upon discovering that a brand new 125cc motorbike was cheaper than the majority of e-bikes, I just had to investigate… This is what I discovered... 1. Nearly all e-bikes and components are built cheaply in China. 2. Unscrupulous companies import these, stick a brand name on it, and then sell it to you at astronomical profit margins. 3. Very few of these brand names have any after-sales support, especially after a few years, when spares are almost impossible to attain. 4. E-bikes in inexperienced hands can be very dangerous, with injuries more akin to those from motorcycles than from push bikes. Conclusion, in the ‘world of wheels’ e-bikes seem to be the new gold rush, through ruthlessly exploiting middle class conscience.
I have 2 ebikes, but you're correct. I just bought a Honda Navi. Top speed 50 mph. Not worrying so much about cars running me over as I am with my ebike. Plus having proper lights and turning signals is a real plus.
@@kenrichmond6906 well lets be real, just as much a danger as with a road bike. The problem is people buy ebikes and think they are motorcycles and want to go 30 mph lmao. I'm getting an ebike to ride like an acoustic bike. probably doing 10-15mph most of the time in pas 1 lol.
@@kenrichmond6906 are you paying attention????the point of a ebike is not having a license lol, not paying for insurance or gas, or registration. You miss the entire point....
Very good video, many points I used before this video, and some I hadn't thought about. Last January, I decided on a mission 1 from rad power bikes. I rode it hard all year and have no complaints. With the fenders, front and rear racks I still spent less than $1,300. It's simple and easy to work on for diy. I use it for everything around town, even grocery shopping. But no matter what ebike suits your personal needs, get one soon, you'll never regret it.
What’s the street rules ? Do you have to ride on sidewalk unless they have bike lanes ❓Do you have to wear a helmet by law or is it a personal choice ❓Thx
@@magdymikhail1365 in NY and NJ anything over 750w or throttling past 20 is class 3 and must be registered and illegal on bike paths. You must wear a helmet if over 15 and bikes are not allowed on sidewalks. You must have front and rear lights on ebike. You must be able to lock brakes to a skid.
One word - Bafang. I'm building my 4th Bafang mid drive as I type this. Its all on aliex, parts included. Have them both bbs02 and bbshd. High quality, smartly designed. Have 7000km on one hd. No prbl. I highly recomend it.
He is right about the difficulty in diagnosing problems with electrical bikes. After 3 months my Ariel Rider Grizzly failed with an Error Code 30H. This error code is a communication error that can be anything from a loose connecter to a failure of multiple parts. I spend over a month exchanging emails with AR customer support, and I still do not know what is wrong with my bike. Luckily, I live in San Diego and there is 1 local e-bike store that sells and services Ariel Riders. I dropped the bike off 2 days ago, so I am still waiting to see what is wrong. My girlfriend has a Giant Freedom Twist electric bike. It had a flat tire and we took it to the nearest bike store. They immediately sent us out the door saying they don't service e-bikes. We took the bike to the store we bought it from and had it back the next day. Before you buy an e-bike online, check with your local e-bike stores to see if they are willing to work on the brand you are thinking of buying. You may be surprised to find out, that many e-bike stores only service the brands they are selling.
Dude, your info has opened my eyes 👀 and I thank you so much! I know what to look for now, and will probably go for the Aventon! At 57, going on 28, the step through makes perfect sense!
Lloyd, this was a nicely done video about electric bikes. I recently got interested in buying an ebike. Your recommendation of Aventon Level is exactly the brand that I'm interested in buying. I was able to test ride one from Recycled Cycles Bicycles & Fitness in Fort Collins yesterday 2/3/23. However I'm not parting with my well cared for "06 Trek Multitrack 7500 that I have. Hopefully this coming summer I'll be riding with motor assist the many trails in and around Fort Collins, Colorado.
Well, thanks to you I went and ordered my new Aventon Aventure today at my local brick and mortar dealer. About 45 minutes away but a great shop with nice people and good service. Well worth the drive. Thanks for the great advice. 😎👍
I bought a radmission from the radbikes store here in Vancouver and got very lucky because they actually had one in stock. I'm not particularly mechanically inclined so I was very happy that they put the bike together for me too. I did much research before choosing rad and they seem to have excellent customer support and the bikes are solid quality products. My radmission is the midstep which gives me really good stand over clearance and it looks great as well. It's got good kenda ebike rated tires, tektro mechanical disc brakes and heavy duty spokes. All in all its a great bike and the shop is only about 40 minutes from home for whenever I may need to get there for anything.
Outstanding video! So needed for the hot and continually emerging ebike market. I don't understand why so many of you presenters use music in the back ground of your videos. It is distracting. It is like phoning someone and trying to have conversation while they have a radio or tv blaring in the background. Wish you were local!
For most riders 500 -750 watts will get them up all but the steepest hills. There are regulations that limit the power of an electric bike to be street legal each state can be different
Excellent video & great points. I was going to buy online from a cheaper Chinese made electric bike, but now I am going to buy from a local dealer in my area a pick a bike that has parts & easily serviceable. It might be more expensive but it will be worth it. Great video
@@chrisimming9454 all the motors definitely chinese branded which is what defines an ebike lmao. The daelers have an easier time fixing bikes though cause they can just swap parts they have on hand from other bikes to see which part is bad. A home owner will have more difficulty. I just bought a cheap chinese ebike for $1400 with same motor and controller, and similar samsung cell battery. Everything else is cheaper components but they seem to have great customer service when dealing with them so I'm crossing my fingers. $2000 is way too much for me and from what I've read aventon customer service is one of the worst. I don't have a dealer or bike store I can bring the bike to but they don't seem to get the parts any faster according to others.
Great video, very informative. Subscribing due to the cat. One factor not to overlook, the lock, possibly addressed by now. I bought a foldylock forever. Plus a tail light with integrated alarm. I bought my ebike from a pawnshop, excellent condition mid drive motor hydraulic disk brakes and the store that sells that brand, is the next town over...Should be mentioned these things are very heavy to lift.
Range calculation math... Volts X AmpHours (V x AH) = WattHours WH... now most ebikes draw average of 200-300w on flat terrain... uphill can be as high as 1200 watt draw. Now take your calculated WH and divide it by 200w and then by 300w (this is how many hours the battery will provide current... take that figure and multiply it by 10 mph, or what speed you ride at.. That is your range.. Mine: i have a 52v x 19.2ah battery (998.4wh) divided by my average wattage draw of 200 and 300w...4.99 to 3.32 hours of ride time X average 20mph so if i'm traveling at the rate of 20mph drawing 300w, my range is about 64.4 miles. more if i'm if i take it easy. Range is subject to rider weight, panniers, trailers, power level, and what gear you are using.. I found i get better range if I'm in a lower gear, and the power level is up so that the motor spins faster.. if you lug down the motor, you will suck up a lot of power and not get very far.
Great advice! I’m looking for a lightweight folding ebike and am so overwhelmed. Don’t want to make the mistake of ordering online from some fly by night company. Your advice is sound and I appreciate the tips. I will be following this channel.
I consider myself to be a practical person but your video pointed out several important point that I would never have considered before purchasing a bike. Thank you.
I really appreciate this! I was very gung-ho about getting a bike pretty quickly but I was convinced to slow my roll and keep looking, and I'm glad I did. I still haven't made a decision or have come close to a purchase, but the information in this video is extremely helpful. I've also been looking at mid-drives, there's going to be a bit more expensive but still going to keep looking. Don't want to make the wrong decision.
When deciding on mid or hub please test ride both. They assist in different ways and you won’t know which you prefer until you ride them both. Not many minds come with throttle but it is available
@@BumsteadsBicycles yeah, I've been trying out a few mid drives and they were quite fun, but the person I spoke with was very very very against hub motors saying that they break down a ton, it was a local bike shop with only mid drives since they got burned from hub motors. I've been eyeing the ride one up 700 a lot, but Avento looks really fantastic as well
@@Gavo172 most of the bike shops and custom build guys prefer mid drives. I personally think it is because they are more expensive, harder to fix yourself, and because they cause more wear on your drive train so they get more repair costs from you that way as well. But that being said they are way more powerful on hills and definitely a better choice if you do rough trail riding. Hub drives can usually be replaced easily by a homeowner. You just pop out the core and screw the other one in with your eyes closed. I personally would not get a mid drive for cruising unless it was also a belt drive, but now you are talking even more money. I've had to replace my casette and chain as aheavy guy just on a non electric bike at times. I can't even imagine what would happen if I started using a powerful mid drive. I think the key with hub drives is keeping enough constant pressure in the tires, most people don't check their tires or think they should run them at a pressure too low.
range.....isn't a major worry for trips around town, i had my ebike a short time and checking the battery level before i set off hadn't become a habit yet and ran out of juice at the bottom of a long relatively steep hill, i only made that mistake once but i wasn't panicked it is after all a 10 speed bike, i put it in first gear and took my time, the point being you're not going to be stranded if you're out for the day, stop for lunch for an hour, and fast charge the battery, in an hour it should have 80% charge back
Unfortunately, I live in Europe, so the Aventon selection is very limited. As a result, I've had to buy online Ebikes, one of which I had to return within the first two weeks! The Shengmilo ebike's display stopped working, so I was stuck with a dead and heavy bike! In the process of sending back now. Seeing your video, explaining one's lack of options should something go wrong, really makes me not try online buying again!
Thank you for explaining it in a simplistic way. I've been thinking of buying one for couple of years with all the different models and brands does confuse the situation. Thank you 😊
Aventon add. Cable disc brakes are easier for road maintenance. You can order replacement parts from Aventon and if they are in stock no problem if not you will be weighting on a slow boat from China. I have an Aventon Pace 350 witch is their least expensive ebike and I am happy with it. The problems with Aventon are in the supply system and are pandemic related due to shipping and all manufacturers are having the same problems. With the increase in manufacturing quality has suffered on multiple e-bikes brands if you look at brand user websites, but a big percentage of the complaints are from buyers that have a lack of mechanical knowledge in bicycles let alone e-bikes.
your right on Lloyd. i bought a Chinese 150cc scooter online for $799. it would not start because the freight company injected Vaseline into the fuel lines. after 4 hours it finally started. 8 months later the scooter had literally disintegrated and pushed out to the curb for the garbage man. thank god theres a bike store by me that sells Aventon bikes...can't wait for spring of 2022
YOUR SO RIGHT MY FRIEND, COST CUTTING IS A PROBLEM.I HAVE AN EBIKE I PURCHAST ON EBAY I PAYED $999 FOR IT IVE HAD IT NOW FOR 2 WEEKS AND I MUST SAY I LOVE THIS BIKE, BUT IF ANYTHING GOES WRONG WITH THE ELECTIRICALS I WOULDN'T KNOW WHERE TO START.
most hub motors are 500w or 750w, most mid motors are 250-350w and they out perform the hub motors, how can that be you say? don't look at the power(Watts) look at the torque(nM newton meters) hub motors put out 20-40nM mid motors put out 65-120nM the more common range is 65-90nM all mid motors have a torque sensor built in that proportionally adds more assist the harder you pedal, it feels very smooth and natural.....the hub motor systems generally have a PAS sensor, a disc with a number of magnets on the pedal shaft that tells the motor to turn on with full power, no proportional assist, again the quality of the ride between the 2 systems is like night and day.....'you get what you pay for' is very true here
One bit of fine print with the battery: You don't want to just look at amp-hour ratings. You need to check the voltage as well. Many, but not all, are 36V. What you really care about isn't Amp-hours, it's Watt-hours. Volts times amps equals watts. So, for the pretty typical battery on my $1700 Fuji E-Traverse, 11.6 Ah * 36 V = 417 Wh. That will give you an apples to apples comparison if you're looking at two bikes with different battery voltages.
Well in general Ebikes is way overpriced if you ask me, bought a conversion kit instead 8 months ago for 800 bucks and bought a brand new bike from kmart with good suspension for a $130...did not speed a penny more. The 850 watts hub motor goes up to 50-55 km depending on weight and weather. The battery is 48 v 15ah and cover 60-70 km on PAS again depending on rider weight and weather. The kit also provide throttle and LCD screen and have 5 speed set up and milage and battery status and a few other info on display. It was a front wheel up which made the installation very easy. For a convertion relatively cheap the bike goes faster than a lot of ebikes with similar motor capacity probably because they all pretty heavy compared to mine. And the bike always delivers. The crazy thing is the agent also sells the rear hub version with same capacity at the same price!! So its just another $800 to just double the capacity of the bike with dual motors if i wanted too.Insane! So $1600 to have 48 v 1700 watts (2 x 850) 30ah (2x15) to have a bike with such a capacty...so i say again simple 36 v and 48 v ebikes are way too overpriced
Bought an Aventon Level Step Through last week. I love it. Have a local dealer with an excellent mechanic, but confident I can do my own repairs. Very pleased with it. Great video
This is good advice for bike newbies who want to buy an e-bike, but a lot of it is somewhat moot for experienced bike riders who have been doing maintenance and repairs for decades and for someone who understands electronics. Parts availability is an issue for literally everything these days, so pointing out here is, well, stating the obvious. Aventon has a very solid reputation, but naturally, a shop owner's recommendation is always going to be a bike he carries. But Aventon also sells direct, and they don't have a dealer anywhere near me.
Actually going to test ride the Aventon Level next week in Albuquerque, 200 miles from where I live (totally worth the drive because of what you said about purchasing from a dealer). After 2 weeks of research I opted for Aventon so far because they have actual dealers in the U.S. The ebike I really, really wanted has no dealers in the U.S., only warehouses and basically no support. I sold my motorcycle.. Now I will be back on 2 with these pros: no insurance, registration, license, less carbon footprint, maybe down the road getting rid of another gas guzzler. Can't think of any cons right now. :)
all batteries can be repacked , most electric bikes are disposable, i build mine from kits , and my one is been personal running for over a year , i use mine 30 miles aday
I wish that I could have bought my bike from a local store, but after researching ebikes, I was unable to find a good bike locally. I am advising a friend and will share this video, thank you.
Step through is good for stepping through but if you have a traditional bike rack on your car where you need that bar to hang it from a step through is not going to work
Some ok advice, mostly intuitively obvious, much of it not ebike specific. Hard to figure out what the "6 things" are. Sounded more like a pitch for Aveton, which, no coincidence, you sell.
There's a few hidden gems out there, on Amazon you can pick up the speedrid for a $1,000. With a fork and a battery blows away everything else on the market under $3,000. It's advertised as a 500 watt bike but it's about 1,000. On a trail it goes faster uphill than a $10,000specialized turbo levo goes downhill.
Now that supply issues are easing , batteries will start to be available. I was concerned the past 2 years but as things get back to normal Aventon will start selling parts again.
Your recommendation to potential 1st time ebike buyers is to use a hub motor? Then I am glad that I did my own research rather than getting bad advice from someone else. I do agree with one thing you said... ebikes do need regular maintenance.
WHAT... E-bike is good for someone with a bad neck? I'm 6'3" at 220 lb and really like the Aventon Aventure but it does not have a rear suspension. What can be added to it to make it ride smoother? Is there a different e-bike you would suggest? Great video 👍
I would suggest getting a seat with springs first and if that isn’t enough a suspension seat post. Adding an adjustable stem also helps to sit more upright if needed, but it puts more of your weight on the seat . We have done this for a lot of customers and helps with back issues
Where would I put my groceries on this bike? I need it to survive as I am 64, 5' 5" female 200lbs without a vehicle and not seeing one in my future because of costs. Why dont they make racks that are more like baskets with liners and lids that extend upwards (taller) and downwards about mid wheel so more fits in them?
Most of the things you are describing are accessories that can be added. I agree the industry isn’t addressing this as well as it should. More is coming as people figure out that an ebike can replace a car
manufacturers to lower the price of an ebike will install a smaller battery, i saw an ebike lately with 340wh(watt-hours) a measure of how much energy it can store therefore affecting the range, most batteries are 500wh but the trend is is towards 620wh or more.....you may not need the range of a 620wh battery but the larger capacity will allow you to charge the battery to 80% most of the time, have lots of range and it will double the life of the battery, 800 recharges at 100% to 1500 recharges at 80%, there are aftermarket chargers that will do that also, slow charge the battery at 2amps whenever possible gives longer battery life, charging at 4 and 6amps only when needed
Thanks so much for posting myself big in the bicycles have trek road bike track mountain bike thinking about getting into a box but like you said I know nothing about servicing so know where you're coming from buy from reputable bike shop
I just bought an e-bike, so I really hoped this video wouldn't make me regret my choice. And then the camera pans down and shows the exact bike I purchased. I'm lucky to live in an area with a very active biking community, and the shop I bought from is huge, well respected, and about three miles from my house. I do my own wrenching, for my bikes and cars, so that's not a concern. But things like this I do prefer to buy local. So far the Aventon has been great. Commuting to work and short trips to the grocery store, no problems.
@@learndatawithshaheerkhan The Aventon Level. It's a good commuter, comes with the rear rack so you can throw some storage on it. 500 watt motor seems plenty for small to medium hills. If you live in a really hilly area maybe look at 750 watt at least.
@@learndatawithshaheerkhan It's 20 - 40 miles, depending on how much you pedal. Everywhere I ride is within a few miles of my house, I charge it once a week. The battery is hidden in the frame, but you can remove it.
Excellent review. I am on my FIFTH electric bike... for good reasons. The first and third were on a free loan from my local council here in London. They were both a Raleigh stepover frame centre motor. VERY heavy. However, the motor engaged instantly and it could handle any hill. Then I bought a large folder that again had the power. However, the wheels had to turn a full circle before the motor kicked it. If I had to stop on a hill it wasn't possible to restart. I now have a bike which the motor kicks in after a quarter revolution BUT it has throttle, which is great for town traffic. It can't do very steep hills though. The battery is 8.5 AmpHour which gives me a good 30 mile range. I find that I only use throttle to get up to speed and then just peddle. I can easily do 30MPH on this cheapish Chinese bike. Of course I am looking for a better bike. I fitted good tyres - expensive, but stopped punctures. Hopw these notes help someone! I am looking to sell this one and get one with more power as long as it has throttle control - which is not officially recognised in Britain.
I have been researching E Bikes for six months , watching all the side by side comparisons on speeds etc. I have been weary of buying an online bike that I would have to assemble. Yours is the first "Common Sense Video" I have seen on UA-cam.!!! You are addressing the most important aspects of an E Bike purchase. No review I have watched has addressed the issues you have brought up . What is the company's reputation on support , where can one get an online E Bike repaired, are parts readily available. I decided recently that I am buying my E Bike from a local dealer ! The Aventon line is high on my list of E Bikes to purchase. Thank You so much for the very important video !!!!
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Thanks for a very informative video on ebikes. I am seeking one as I am 71 going on 72 retired and have ridden a bike all my life. I rode my Marin titanium mountain bike that I bought for $3,000 in the mid 80’s back and forth to work as a school teacher for years. I am very thankful for your knowledge.
Wise advice! Thank You. This is for me! And thanks for not playing loud annoying music!!!
A lot of this is his personal take mostly for utility commuter bike.
Summary: buy an Avenden Level.
Points:
-do the wires disconnect for maintenance?
-are electric parts available?
-are tires heavy duty?
-are the rear spokes thicker?
-does it have hydraulic disc brakes?
-name brand brakes?
-frame quality.
-step-thru frame.
-name brand battery and amp hr. Capacity.
A nice ad for Aventon. But how can a commuter bike not come with lights?!
I looked at a lot of e bike videos before purchasing 2 e bikes. None of them were as good as yours. Luckily, I bought 2 Aventón Pace 500 2022 models and they now come with front and back lights. We pick them up in 2 days. I feel so good after watching your video and to know we bought a good brand and we bought it from a local bike shop that can service them and get parts.
Thank you for the information, I honestly didn't think about the little things, you sir have convinced me to get an AVENTON bike. Wish I could purchase it from you but I live in FL.
Great video. Thanks, really helps us to consider important factors that we had not thought of
Side tip to consider- no need for the music in background, rather just hear your great tips or maybe just lower volume 50%
One of the most helpful and truthful videos I've seen about e bikes on you tube.
Well agreed! If I still lived in Cali I would go to him just on this video alone when I had the funds to buy an e-bike. Either way, great information and things to think about. And true so many e-bikes esp the ones I kept saying oh wow nice...cost waay out of my league of 5K + which I never expected to cost but can understand.
interestingly enough Aventon recently came upon my radar and to see this video adds another layer to consider. Greets from NYC!
Amazing and wonderful information in this video! Gracious groovy gratitude
p.s. how are there ANY dislikes to this video?
Bumstead's is my local Aventon dealer. My daily commute is 26 miles RT over mostly flat pavement. After paying $5/gal for gas earlier this week, I began researching suitable e-bike options at the $2000 price point. Short story short, I purchased a Level [LG] with lighting and puncture-resistant tube/liner kit on 3/19/22. Total out-the-door cost was $2,038.02. The value of my first e-bike will ultimately be determined by the quality of service that Aventon and Bumstead’s are able to provide over the useful life of the product. So far, I'm optimistic.
I bought my Aventon Aventure e-bike from Lloyd at Bumstead’s about a month ago. I couldn’t be more pleased with my purchase and the great customer service I received from Lloyd and his staff!
ya got powerwagon 4, 10 months ago. 5k on it. average 30 aday. 2k is new price point. all raise and lower to it. i love rad.
i made the mistake of just ordering something off Amazon. then I turned it over to a now former coworker so he could get to work. he wrecked it. i had to search out a shop to fix it, bent rim had to be replaced, the big bike store in town wanted nothing to do with it. finally a store like this one helped me out and the bike is better than new. i would have probably been better off buying a bike from that shop.
Hilarious stuff. Sounds like you all read How to Write Fake Reviews
@@snarkybuttcrack Let's see, Fake Name, Fake Review, Write Fake Reviews must be your website! 😂
Hey LLoyd , found this video on ebikes and there you were, So nice to meet you today and I must say after I test drove this E-Bike today at your shop I was sold on this Great bike. I cant wait to pick up my new bike.. Thanks again for your information and friendly service and letting me test drive this awsome E=-bike...Cheers J.Q.
Thank you for your help! You helped me make a decision with my purchase of a ebike!
The problem with most of the new ebikes is that they can't provide replacement batteries a year or two after the launch of the ebike. Many have proprietary motor/batter combinations.. this means that you can only use a bosch battery with a bosch motor... shimano with shimano..etc.. remember what happened to one of the best motors/battery BionX.. they went into business with GE to build a new ebike, and because BionX was unable to fulfill the terms of the contract, GE SUED THEM OUT OF BUSINESS.. BionX was a proprietary system, the battery and the motor had chips that talk to each other.. one will not work without the other.. The Bionx motors were top of the line at the time.. But after they went out of business, the consumers with a BionX no longer have a place to buy a replacement battery.. Proprietary systems are not GREEN when you have to throw the lithium battery and the motor into a hazmat landfill because they are now unusable (even though the motor works perfectly) NOT GREEN. My advice, if you are going to buy an Ebike or Ebike kit, choose one that you can use generic (non-proprietary) components.. It will be cheaper and last longer and not end up in HAZMAT Landfills..
Excellent comment
Articulate
its also just the fact they have to fit into that downtube and connection. But i mean its common to replace the motor and battery, whether its DIY or not. That has nothing to do with it going to into a landfill, which it will regardless.
@@cooloutac i think you missed my point.. when you don't buy proprietary motor/battery combos, that gives you far more options for replacements on the road.. And when you have to replace a proprietary motor or battery that has gone bad, you limit your options..
If you have a non-proprietary battery, most of those can be rebuilt by replacing cells.. you can't do that with those like Bionx, STEPS, or Bosch batteries because the cells are glued in, those must be completely trashed.. (and they are more than double the cost to replace.) (and they don't offer alternative voltage(ie 52v vs 48v which are interchangeable on systems like Bafang) Economically those are easier to find parts for and cheaper to keep running at the same time give you options for more or less power or range. Ride Safe my friend..
@@rdkuless I agreed with that point. Just disagreed with your reasons as to why lol. You can replace cells on any battery but not something I would do with any.
Thanks for the outstanding tips.
Excellent video. We bought our Dutch made Gazelle ebikes from our local bike shop and the importance of parts an repairability was important in our decision to invest in $3000 bikes. They have been worth the investment and we frequently ride more than 20 miles. The battery range can exceed 70 miles on these bikes.
Great video for a first-time buyer....very helpful !
Great information, well delivered, but please kill the music while you are talking. It is distracting and makes it hard to focus on your content.
Great content and I agree on the background music
Good video, the advice can be applied to bikes in general - any good bike will be a assembly of parts from other companies and not some weird welded on solution. And usually the tradeoff is you might get a shifter or pedals you'll want to upgrade after a year. I've taken walmart bikes to shops and gotten them serviced/repaired just fine but only because I chose a bike that was actually serviceable cuz while it's great that a shop can work on your bike - the shop can also be really busy, so the benefit is more that you yourself can potentially service it.
Excellent video. By coincidence, we bought 2 Aventon Level models yesterday, before seeing your video. Having just viewed it, I'm feeling even better about our decision to buy locally rather than from a competitor that only sells on-line direct to consumer.
My local E-bike dealer just hates "online" bicycles brands because when they break, he gets to play the guessing game to how it was build, which is why they convert regular bicycles to E-bike using a Bafang motor, sure there are more wires visible, but you can replace things in minutes or test them. E-bikes look pretty with all their hidden parts and wires but are a nightmare to fix.
its really not that bad actually. usually its just a matter of taken out the battery, then unscrewing the bottom plate the battery connects to. and pulling out the controller tucked in there. I think the main advantage to custom DIY builds, is that the controller is not in a hotbox so less likely to burn out. And the way a homeowner can test a controller without swapping, is to replug the connections or check with a multimeter.
Thank you so much for making this video! I suffer from severe anxiety that prevents me from driving, so this is much needed advice on a big buy I’m planning to make. 😊
Upon discovering that a brand new 125cc motorbike was cheaper than the majority of e-bikes, I just had to investigate… This is what I discovered... 1. Nearly all e-bikes and components are built cheaply in China. 2. Unscrupulous companies import these, stick a brand name on it, and then sell it to you at astronomical profit margins. 3. Very few of these brand names have any after-sales support, especially after a few years, when spares are almost impossible to attain. 4. E-bikes in inexperienced hands can be very dangerous, with injuries more akin to those from motorcycles than from push bikes. Conclusion, in the ‘world of wheels’ e-bikes seem to be the new gold rush, through ruthlessly exploiting middle class conscience.
Truth
I have 2 ebikes, but you're correct. I just bought a Honda Navi. Top speed 50 mph. Not worrying so much about cars running me over as I am with my ebike. Plus having proper lights and turning signals is a real plus.
wow. well said. lmao.
@@kenrichmond6906 well lets be real, just as much a danger as with a road bike. The problem is people buy ebikes and think they are motorcycles and want to go 30 mph lmao. I'm getting an ebike to ride like an acoustic bike. probably doing 10-15mph most of the time in pas 1 lol.
@@kenrichmond6906 are you paying attention????the point of a ebike is not having a license lol, not paying for insurance or gas, or registration. You miss the entire point....
Very good video, many points I used before this video, and some I hadn't thought about. Last January, I decided on a mission 1 from rad power bikes. I rode it hard all year and have no complaints. With the fenders, front and rear racks I still spent less than $1,300. It's simple and easy to work on for diy. I use it for everything around town, even grocery shopping. But no matter what ebike suits your personal needs, get one soon, you'll never regret it.
What’s the street rules ? Do you have to ride on sidewalk unless they have bike lanes ❓Do you have to wear a helmet by law or is it a personal choice ❓Thx
@@magdymikhail1365 That would depend where you live. Call city hall in your town.
@@magdymikhail1365 in NY and NJ anything over 750w or throttling past 20 is class 3 and must be registered and illegal on bike paths. You must wear a helmet if over 15 and bikes are not allowed on sidewalks. You must have front and rear lights on ebike. You must be able to lock brakes to a skid.
One word - Bafang.
I'm building my 4th Bafang mid drive as I type this. Its all on aliex, parts included. Have them both bbs02 and bbshd. High quality, smartly designed. Have 7000km on one hd. No prbl. I highly recomend it.
I brought a mukkpet ebike on Amazon for 669$ , 48v 350 watts... Rides great.. goes 18 to 20mph.. 30 to 50 miles on one charge
He is right about the difficulty in diagnosing problems with electrical bikes.
After 3 months my Ariel Rider Grizzly failed with an Error Code 30H. This error code is a communication error that can be anything from a loose connecter to a failure of multiple parts.
I spend over a month exchanging emails with AR customer support, and I still do not know what is wrong with my bike.
Luckily, I live in San Diego and there is 1 local e-bike store that sells and services Ariel Riders. I dropped the bike off 2 days ago, so I am still waiting to see what is wrong.
My girlfriend has a Giant Freedom Twist electric bike. It had a flat tire and we took it to the nearest bike store. They immediately sent us out the door saying they don't service e-bikes.
We took the bike to the store we bought it from and had it back the next day.
Before you buy an e-bike online, check with your local e-bike stores to see if they are willing to work on the brand you are thinking of buying. You may be surprised to find out, that many e-bike stores only service the brands they are selling.
Dude, your info has opened my eyes 👀 and I thank you so much! I know what to look for now, and will probably go for the Aventon!
At 57, going on 28, the step through makes perfect sense!
Lloyd, this was a nicely done video about electric bikes. I recently got interested in buying an ebike. Your recommendation of Aventon Level is exactly the brand that I'm interested in buying. I was able to test ride one from Recycled Cycles Bicycles & Fitness in Fort Collins yesterday 2/3/23. However I'm not parting with my well cared for "06 Trek Multitrack 7500 that I have. Hopefully this coming summer I'll be riding with motor assist the many trails in and around Fort Collins, Colorado.
Well, thanks to you I went and ordered my new Aventon Aventure today at my local brick and mortar dealer. About 45 minutes away but a great shop with nice people and good service. Well worth the drive. Thanks for the great advice. 😎👍
I bought a radmission from the radbikes store here in Vancouver and got very lucky because they actually had one in stock. I'm not particularly mechanically inclined so I was very happy that they put the bike together for me too. I did much research before choosing rad and they seem to have excellent customer support and the bikes are solid quality products. My radmission is the midstep which gives me really good stand over clearance and it looks great as well. It's got good kenda ebike rated tires, tektro mechanical disc brakes and heavy duty spokes. All in all its a great bike and the shop is only about 40 minutes from home for whenever I may need to get there for anything.
Thanks Lloyd you addressed some areas that no one else has and it's appreciated Thanks again
Outstanding video! So needed for the hot and continually emerging ebike market. I don't understand why so many of you presenters use music in the back ground of your videos. It is distracting. It is like phoning someone and trying to have conversation while they have a radio or tv blaring in the background. Wish you were local!
What about the ability to climb hills? Some of the bikes with less than 1000 watts power are said to be not able to climb a steep hill.
For most riders 500 -750 watts will get them up all but the steepest hills. There are regulations that limit the power of an electric bike to be street legal each state can be different
Outstanding video. I bought a Rad City 5 Plus and love it. A week later a bought another lol. Ebikes are so much fun and I don’t use my car much now.
Excellent video & great points. I was going to buy online from a cheaper Chinese made electric bike, but now I am going to buy from a local dealer in my area a pick a bike that has parts & easily serviceable. It might be more expensive but it will be worth it. Great video
Aren't they all, including Aventon, made in China?
@@chrisimming9454 all the motors definitely chinese branded which is what defines an ebike lmao. The daelers have an easier time fixing bikes though cause they can just swap parts they have on hand from other bikes to see which part is bad. A home owner will have more difficulty. I just bought a cheap chinese ebike for $1400 with same motor and controller, and similar samsung cell battery. Everything else is cheaper components but they seem to have great customer service when dealing with them so I'm crossing my fingers. $2000 is way too much for me and from what I've read aventon customer service is one of the worst. I don't have a dealer or bike store I can bring the bike to but they don't seem to get the parts any faster according to others.
One of the Best overall analyses I've seen ! Great Job
Great video, very informative. Subscribing due to the cat. One factor not to overlook, the lock, possibly addressed by now. I bought a foldylock forever. Plus a tail light with integrated alarm. I bought my ebike from a pawnshop, excellent condition mid drive motor hydraulic disk brakes and the store that sells that brand, is the next town over...Should be mentioned these things are very heavy to lift.
Range calculation math... Volts X AmpHours (V x AH) = WattHours WH... now most ebikes draw average of 200-300w on flat terrain... uphill can be as high as 1200 watt draw. Now take your calculated WH and divide it by 200w and then by 300w (this is how many hours the battery will provide current... take that figure and multiply it by 10 mph, or what speed you ride at.. That is your range..
Mine: i have a 52v x 19.2ah battery (998.4wh) divided by my average wattage draw of 200 and 300w...4.99 to 3.32 hours of ride time X average 20mph so if i'm traveling at the rate of 20mph drawing 300w, my range is about 64.4 miles. more if i'm if i take it easy.
Range is subject to rider weight, panniers, trailers, power level, and what gear you are using.. I found i get better range if I'm in a lower gear, and the power level is up so that the motor spins faster.. if you lug down the motor, you will suck up a lot of power and not get very far.
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Excellent and timeless advice. Thanks. 👍🏽
Great advice! I’m looking for a lightweight folding ebike and am so overwhelmed. Don’t want to make the mistake of ordering online from some fly by night company. Your advice is sound and I appreciate the tips. I will be following this channel.
Yes, you are so correct. Always ask yourself, can you get it fixed. I bought a Trek e-bike. I paid more, but service is great.
I consider myself to be a practical person but your video pointed out several important point that I would never have considered before purchasing a bike. Thank you.
Your sincerity really shines through.
I really appreciate this! I was very gung-ho about getting a bike pretty quickly but I was convinced to slow my roll and keep looking, and I'm glad I did. I still haven't made a decision or have come close to a purchase, but the information in this video is extremely helpful. I've also been looking at mid-drives, there's going to be a bit more expensive but still going to keep looking. Don't want to make the wrong decision.
When deciding on mid or hub please test ride both. They assist in different ways and you won’t know which you prefer until you ride them both. Not many minds come with throttle but it is available
@@BumsteadsBicycles yeah, I've been trying out a few mid drives and they were quite fun, but the person I spoke with was very very very against hub motors saying that they break down a ton, it was a local bike shop with only mid drives since they got burned from hub motors. I've been eyeing the ride one up 700 a lot, but Avento looks really fantastic as well
@@Gavo172 most of the bike shops and custom build guys prefer mid drives. I personally think it is because they are more expensive, harder to fix yourself, and because they cause more wear on your drive train so they get more repair costs from you that way as well. But that being said they are way more powerful on hills and definitely a better choice if you do rough trail riding. Hub drives can usually be replaced easily by a homeowner. You just pop out the core and screw the other one in with your eyes closed. I personally would not get a mid drive for cruising unless it was also a belt drive, but now you are talking even more money. I've had to replace my casette and chain as aheavy guy just on a non electric bike at times. I can't even imagine what would happen if I started using a powerful mid drive. I think the key with hub drives is keeping enough constant pressure in the tires, most people don't check their tires or think they should run them at a pressure too low.
range.....isn't a major worry for trips around town, i had my ebike a short time and checking the battery level before i set off hadn't become a habit yet and ran out of juice at the bottom of a long relatively steep hill, i only made that mistake once but i wasn't panicked it is after all a 10 speed bike, i put it in first gear and took my time, the point being you're not going to be stranded if you're out for the day, stop for lunch for an hour, and fast charge the battery, in an hour it should have 80% charge back
Nice job. I suggest you make a video now discussing foldable ebikes, price points, battery, frame, etc.
Excellent professional advice. Shopping for ebike.
Thanks for the note on quick connections, reminded me to look and see if the trike i kinda have picked out has those.
Unfortunately, I live in Europe, so the Aventon selection is very limited. As a result, I've had to buy online Ebikes, one of which I had to return within the first two weeks! The Shengmilo ebike's display stopped working, so I was stuck with a dead and heavy bike! In the process of sending back now. Seeing your video, explaining one's lack of options should something go wrong, really makes me not try online buying again!
Thank you for explaining it in a simplistic way. I've been thinking of buying one for couple of years with all the different models and brands does confuse the situation. Thank you 😊
Aventon add. Cable disc brakes are easier for road maintenance. You can order replacement parts from Aventon and if they are in stock no problem if not you will be weighting on a slow boat from China. I have an Aventon Pace 350 witch is their least expensive ebike and I am happy with it. The problems with Aventon are in the supply system and are pandemic related due to shipping and all manufacturers are having the same problems. With the increase in manufacturing quality has suffered on multiple e-bikes brands if you look at brand user websites, but a big percentage of the complaints are from buyers that have a lack of mechanical knowledge in bicycles let alone e-bikes.
Thanks so much for this very informative video. Lots of points I wouldn’t have known to look for.
your right on Lloyd. i bought a Chinese 150cc scooter online for $799. it would not start because the freight company injected Vaseline into the fuel lines. after 4 hours it finally started. 8 months later the scooter had literally disintegrated and pushed out to the curb for the garbage man. thank god theres a bike store by me that sells Aventon bikes...can't wait for spring of 2022
what? lmao.
YOUR SO RIGHT MY FRIEND, COST CUTTING IS A PROBLEM.I HAVE AN EBIKE I PURCHAST ON EBAY I PAYED $999 FOR IT IVE HAD IT NOW FOR 2 WEEKS AND I MUST SAY I LOVE THIS BIKE, BUT IF ANYTHING GOES WRONG WITH THE ELECTIRICALS I WOULDN'T KNOW WHERE TO START.
Amazing video, thanks a lot
I’m so glad I watched your video before I bought an eBike!
most hub motors are 500w or 750w, most mid motors are 250-350w and they out perform the hub motors, how can that be you say? don't look at the power(Watts) look at the torque(nM newton meters) hub motors put out 20-40nM mid motors put out 65-120nM the more common range is 65-90nM all mid motors have a torque sensor built in that proportionally adds more assist the harder you pedal, it feels very smooth and natural.....the hub motor systems generally have a PAS sensor, a disc with a number of magnets on the pedal shaft that tells the motor to turn on with full power, no proportional assist, again the quality of the ride between the 2 systems is like night and day.....'you get what you pay for' is very true here
Music gets in the way of hearing what's being said.
Worthwhile advice.
I LIKE YOUR PRESENTATION. HOWEVER, DO YOU HAVE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR MID-DRIVE BELT-DRIVEN.....STEP-THROUGH, HYD DISK BREAKS?
I try to give you information to help find the right bike for you I am trying to avoid recommendations for any specific brand
One bit of fine print with the battery: You don't want to just look at amp-hour ratings. You need to check the voltage as well. Many, but not all, are 36V. What you really care about isn't Amp-hours, it's Watt-hours. Volts times amps equals watts. So, for the pretty typical battery on my $1700 Fuji E-Traverse, 11.6 Ah * 36 V = 417 Wh. That will give you an apples to apples comparison if you're looking at two bikes with different battery voltages.
Thank you!
Spot on Mt I got flyon got to tilt it almost flat to get on and of at 54 wish I bought a step thro now
Well in general Ebikes is way overpriced if you ask me, bought a conversion kit instead 8 months ago for 800 bucks and bought a brand new bike from kmart with good suspension for a $130...did not speed a penny more. The 850 watts hub motor goes up to 50-55 km depending on weight and weather. The battery is 48 v 15ah and cover 60-70 km on PAS again depending on rider weight and weather. The kit also provide throttle and LCD screen and have 5 speed set up and milage and battery status and a few other info on display.
It was a front wheel up which made the installation very easy. For a convertion relatively cheap the bike goes faster than a lot of ebikes with similar motor capacity probably because they all pretty heavy compared to mine. And the bike always delivers.
The crazy thing is the agent also sells the rear hub version with same capacity at the same price!! So its just another $800 to just double the capacity of the bike with dual motors if i wanted too.Insane! So $1600 to have 48 v 1700 watts (2 x 850) 30ah (2x15) to have a bike with such a capacty...so i say again simple 36 v and 48 v ebikes are way too overpriced
Thank you for discussing points greatly overlooked ... parts, service and plugs, warrantee, luggage height and getting on the bike, etc
The wait time for a bafang conversion kit is longer than the wait time for the lectric xp 2.0
Bought an Aventon Level Step Through last week. I love it. Have a local dealer with an excellent mechanic, but confident I can do my own repairs. Very pleased with it. Great video
appreciate the info. I am looking to perchase a first ebike. your info will be helpfull when questionning .thank you
if we can have valette parking for bikes so they are safely guarded ..then they can replace cars
Dude I hit the like button after the first minute..as a future ebike owner I needed to hear this before I made my purchase..
Your presentation was spot on. Wish you were close by. Very informative and valuable information. Great job! Thank you!
Can you fit a 3 inch wide tire on the aventon level
No there isn’t enough room. 2.4 is the widest that I have used
Great presentation. I'm looking for my first e-bike and this was a big help.
This is good advice for bike newbies who want to buy an e-bike, but a lot of it is somewhat moot for experienced bike riders who have been doing maintenance and repairs for decades and for someone who understands electronics. Parts availability is an issue for literally everything these days, so pointing out here is, well, stating the obvious. Aventon has a very solid reputation, but naturally, a shop owner's recommendation is always going to be a bike he carries. But Aventon also sells direct, and they don't have a dealer anywhere near me.
ya i learned to fix flats with out even taking the tire off the bike 30 years ago as a kid lol
Great video on what to look for in a lower cost ebike . You have helped me decide. Now looking for a shop in my area. Thanks for doing the video.
A helpful video - I wish there was no music!!
I happily subscribed after seeing this video and your straightforward assessment - wish I lived close to your shop.
Actually going to test ride the Aventon Level next week in Albuquerque, 200 miles from where I live (totally worth the drive because of what you said about purchasing from a dealer). After 2 weeks of research I opted for Aventon so far because they have actual dealers in the U.S. The ebike I really, really wanted has no dealers in the U.S., only warehouses and basically no support. I sold my motorcycle.. Now I will be back on 2 with these pros: no insurance, registration, license, less carbon footprint, maybe down the road getting rid of another gas guzzler. Can't think of any cons right now. :)
which store/dealer in ABQ sells that brand?
@@jicalzad Sports Systems Inc. Albuquerque
Happy riding
all batteries can be repacked , most electric bikes are disposable, i build mine from kits , and my one is been personal running for over a year , i use mine 30 miles aday
I wish that I could have bought my bike from a local store, but after researching ebikes, I was unable to find a good bike locally. I am advising a friend and will share this video, thank you.
Step through is good for stepping through but if you have a traditional bike rack on your car where you need that bar to hang it from a step through is not going to work
Most bike rack manufacturers make a cross bar adapter for this
what are your thoughts on rad powerbikes nice most parts are plug and play but my some of my local shops don't like them.
Some ok advice, mostly intuitively obvious, much of it not ebike specific. Hard to figure out what the "6 things" are. Sounded more like a pitch for Aveton, which, no coincidence, you sell.
There's a few hidden gems out there, on Amazon you can pick up the speedrid for a $1,000. With a fork and a battery blows away everything else on the market under $3,000. It's advertised as a 500 watt bike but it's about 1,000. On a trail it goes faster uphill than a $10,000specialized turbo levo goes downhill.
You seem to prefer aventon. However you can't get new batteries for them. Do you have a resolution for this?
Now that supply issues are easing , batteries will start to be available. I was concerned the past 2 years but as things get back to normal Aventon will start selling parts again.
Your recommendation to potential 1st time ebike buyers is to use a hub motor? Then I am glad that I did my own research rather than getting bad advice from someone else. I do agree with one thing you said... ebikes do need regular maintenance.
If you were in my area, I would definitely buy from you. Thank you for taking the time to create the video:)
WHAT... E-bike is good for someone with a bad neck? I'm 6'3" at 220 lb and really like the Aventon Aventure but it does not have a rear suspension. What can be added to it to make it ride smoother? Is there a different e-bike you would suggest?
Great video 👍
I would suggest getting a seat with springs first and if that isn’t enough a suspension seat post. Adding an adjustable stem also helps to sit more upright if needed, but it puts more of your weight on the seat . We have done this for a lot of customers and helps with back issues
@@BumsteadsBicycles Awesome, thanks! 👍
i did exactly what you recommended i bought a Aventon Cinch for my local bike shop. good advice.
You've really educated me on many nuances I wasn't aware of! thank you!
Where would I put my groceries on this bike? I need it to survive as I am 64, 5' 5" female 200lbs without a vehicle and not seeing one in my future because of costs. Why dont they make racks that are more like baskets with liners and lids that extend upwards (taller) and downwards about mid wheel so more fits in them?
Most of the things you are describing are accessories that can be added. I agree the industry isn’t addressing this as well as it should. More is coming as people figure out that an ebike can replace a car
manufacturers to lower the price of an ebike will install a smaller battery, i saw an ebike lately with 340wh(watt-hours) a measure of how much energy it can store therefore affecting the range, most batteries are 500wh but the trend is is towards 620wh or more.....you may not need the range of a 620wh battery but the larger capacity will allow you to charge the battery to 80% most of the time, have lots of range and it will double the life of the battery, 800 recharges at 100% to 1500 recharges at 80%, there are aftermarket chargers that will do that also, slow charge the battery at 2amps whenever possible gives longer battery life, charging at 4 and 6amps only when needed
Thanks so much for posting myself big in the bicycles have trek road bike track mountain bike thinking about getting into a box but like you said I know nothing about servicing so know where you're coming from buy from reputable bike shop
Nice to hear someone giving honest objections to parts and useage of parts and makesyou sound so honest i would def buy from you
Lectric XP great price, and local bike repair. They send replacement part through mail if you want to do it yourself. Also Arizona USA company
I just bought an e-bike, so I really hoped this video wouldn't make me regret my choice.
And then the camera pans down and shows the exact bike I purchased. I'm lucky to live in an area with a very active biking community, and the shop I bought from is huge, well respected, and about three miles from my house.
I do my own wrenching, for my bikes and cars, so that's not a concern. But things like this I do prefer to buy local. So far the Aventon has been great. Commuting to work and short trips to the grocery store, no problems.
Which one did you buy? I am in the look out for one
@@learndatawithshaheerkhan The Aventon Level. It's a good commuter, comes with the rear rack so you can throw some storage on it. 500 watt motor seems plenty for small to medium hills. If you live in a really hilly area maybe look at 750 watt at least.
Also how is the range? Is battery swappable?
@@learndatawithshaheerkhan It's 20 - 40 miles, depending on how much you pedal. Everywhere I ride is within a few miles of my house, I charge it once a week. The battery is hidden in the frame, but you can remove it.
Thank you! That was a very informative over view of some major points that a prospective ebike owner needs to look at.
I had a hell of a time finding a shop that wuld work on it hes right
what are the disadvantages of the step-thru? Doesn't that frame flex or will be heavier? Also is that harder to mount to a bike rack on a car?
Have not noticed frame flex and weight is about the same. Depending on the rack you may need a cross bar adapter
Great video but I would like to ask what your opinion is of the 1 Ride Up?
That's what I would like to know because the Aventon level doesn't even come with lights. At $1,700 that missing is just a joke.
Excellent review. I am on my FIFTH electric bike... for good reasons. The first and third were on a free loan from my local council here in London. They were both a Raleigh stepover frame centre motor. VERY heavy. However, the motor engaged instantly and it could handle any hill. Then I bought a large folder that again had the power. However, the wheels had to turn a full circle before the motor kicked it. If I had to stop on a hill it wasn't possible to restart. I now have a bike which the motor kicks in after a quarter revolution BUT it has throttle, which is great for town traffic. It can't do very steep hills though. The battery is 8.5 AmpHour which gives me a good 30 mile range. I find that I only use throttle to get up to speed and then just peddle. I can easily do 30MPH on this cheapish Chinese bike. Of course I am looking for a better bike. I fitted good tyres - expensive, but stopped punctures. Hopw these notes help someone! I am looking to sell this one and get one with more power as long as it has throttle control - which is not officially recognised in Britain.