SUPER ENDURO WR250F v WR450F
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- Опубліковано 7 лип 2024
- Do four-strokes have a place in Super Enduro and Hard Enduro? We put the WR250F and WR450F back to back at Boost Town to find out!
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Now do the same with the YZ125X & YZ250X please. That would be great. Specially running cost comparisons and overall fun factor compared to what you've now done with those two WRs. Then a race around that track of yours with all 4 models.
Great idea couldnt agree more
Definitely!!
Bloody oath
How to waste your life.
Great to watch as always and was super impressed by your honesty. Keep up the great work!
Even aside from the differences in the bikes, you nailed a lot of descriptions regarding the physics and the feeling of running in on some intimidating situations. Switching from the 450 to the 500exc on Saturday, I needed to hear this. Thank you Riemann.
Great video. Loved your honest comments about needing to build confidence each time you hit each obstacle. Great stuff.
I just get so happy when I see that he has made another video
Please bring your buddies to boost town, show the epicness, and the bloopers too. Always love your films!
Great video!! How you walked the obstacles and discussed what you were doing was really good so well done.
Good to hear that it it puts the wind up you too.
Good to know you are human after all😀.
Keep up the great content👍
Impressive riding Adam and good to hear you express fear about the 450 on the log wall.
Amazing footage but good to know you're human if braver than most of us.:)
Enduro bikes are designed to conserve your energy.
Super conservation of your energy.
Its as If the bike is driving on tram tracks.
Steering wobbles are reduced by 80%.
Gear changes also get reduced by design.
Logs are male gossip.
Male gossip has nothing to do with enduro bikes.
Enduro bikes restrict your movement and conserve your energy effort.
Go buy a trials bike like everyone else.
great comparison. I'm def set on getting a 250f after your 2 videos comparing them
You really do have a great teaching style. Thanks for sharing all the wisdom!
Keep up the kick ass content!
Thank you for this. Current ride is the wr250f and it’s good to see you bring the best out of it.
Sounds of the birds in background too enjoying your live practice sessions!
Adam looks like he's been in the gym lately. 💪🏽
I sold my 2018 wr450 to buy my 2020 ktm 300, both awesome bikes but the wr suspension is way ahead of the standard wp stuff ktm use. Great video again mate 👌
Man, I'm so impressed with your videos. I'm new to moto after, well, a lifetime in the outdoor world, so I won't be riding like this at this point of my experience. But, damn, it's impressive and enjoyable to watch and listen and learn. Mostly, I liked the parts about how you have to work your way up to most of this and being smart about the conditions, although, in a way, I was disappointed you didn't go for the log wall on the 450 lol
Great stuff indeed and congrats for the channel.
Cool video as usual. Keep em coming going crazy in lockdown with no riding available!
Probably not saying anything new but The Dirt Kitchen Toby Price any bike. YEAHHH
Your channel is top notch. Thank you sir.
Thanks for making all the video's that you've made. I have been watching them for years and wanted you to know you are appreciated in what you do. The talent of your riding and the art you make from the video's are really something to watch. This is actually the second time I have watch this video (of many video's) and you asked what we would like to see next. I figured I would take you up on that. I have been back and forth for a couple of years on both of these on which one to get. Why I am still undecided is because I don't know how they act/handle with single track and slower riding. I'm not a motocross rider and sure hell not as fast of a rider as you and your buddies. Would you be willing to try them both out on a tighter single track and give your honest review (overheating issues or just not designed for it)? If you could, you would really be helping me out. If not, no worries and keep doing what you're doing! Thanks again
You are a dope guy lol you got yourself a new sub! Keep up the fire videos my man! You are inspiration to people like me trying to grow their moto channel!
Awesome video Adam, but I’d take a 250-300 2t all day long. I started on 4t 250 and 450 but once I threw my leg over a yz250 I never looked back! The pivot turns, crawling, hill climb abilities, and over all running cost just had me hooked. Don’t get me wrong I love a 4t for riding fire trails or long rides but the 2t is where my heart belongs
Tbh I've been a 4stroke rider my whole life. I done a hard enduro on a 250 TPI KTM a few years back and it was effortless to ride it well. My time round the track was probably faster and because it's soo light I wasn't even tired even after 6 hours of riding. However, I would say it was a slightly boring bike in some ways, they have made them soo well these days it takes a bit of the grit and fun out of the riding. I think an average rider can ride these new 2strokes like advanced riders due to the way they handle trails / hill climbs and don't stall out etc. Therefore I think if you start on an older 4 stroke for a few years then switch to a 2 stroke you'll be a weapon around the track. I think when it comes to long enduro rides tho the RMX 450R is an absolute beast of a bike. Got to hold on for dear life on those things.
great video man!
Thanks Adam. Dirt kitchens are my favourite episodes. Cheers.
I ride a 2007 wr450f.. really like the bike. Not as skilled a rider as yourself but enjoy watching you put these bikes to the test 👍
Can you please do the same thing you are doing with the WR's with YZs. Would love to see a 125 and a 250 doing this kinda stuff. Awesome video.
Would love to see a time trial added on the dirt kitchen of boost town, would be cool to see some pros trying to get through it under a time
Just swapped my 69 reg tenere for a 67 reg 250f, bloody great all rounder, great video adam, ps loved the war horse stuff, ill upload a video once im out on the 250f mate. Cheers again
Looked at the wr250 they are nice bikes love the KYB ,but i got a ec350f wanted few more cc ,feels perfect power to weight for forest trails singles , ,loven the linkage rear and updated rear shock ,revs to the moon keeps pulling all the way to redline,,
Dear Mr. AR, My name is Candy. I want to thank you for your reviews of the Yam WR450f. I’m hoping to purchase a Providence-sent ‘22, within the next month. I’m a big-boned gal, that’s a few years past the US speed limit, but I’ve been in love with motorcycles every since I rode some kids Benelli 60 when I was 8 or 9 years old. I am a Yamaha fan-girl, so I’m trading in my 2014 Fz 09 for the WR. As a Delinquent Senior Citizen, I need to downsize the weight, but I’d be less of a Woman, if I sacrificed the delicious torque of the 1st gen Fz’s. The dealership I’m working with is gonna make my WR street legal for me & throw on the ECU goodies & take off that limiter crap. I was encouraged by your final comments about that big-ass wall in this video…rarely do I hear a 2-wheeled Superman such as yourself, talk about confidence building. But frankly, whether I’m able to improve my dirt skills to be able to enter some Hare Scramble or Old-Lady class enduro race, or just be able to tear-ass through the woods on some single track…and coming out alive is my level of confidence building. Thanks for the info & inspiration!!! 🇺🇸DaWidowB😎🏴☠️
Could you do the yz 125 x and 250 x with one of your mates doing laps / lap times on boostown ,great content by the way👍
Awesome video once again. Be great to get your thoughts and pros n cons of two strokes vs four strokes for Boost Town and single track riding for the average trail / enduro rider. Graham Jarvis and all the European enduro riders (eg Romaniacs) all seem to ride 300 two strokes. A lot of my riding mates are switching to 300s.
Keep up the great vlogs and can you do some reviews on the yamahas
That is one challenging course!!, It's a horsepower thing , I had a 250F chosen for it's flickability over the 450.
Good review. Do like the wrs and or 4 bangers for most riding except the super technical, just cant beat a 2 smoke when you have decided to pull the trigger on a stupid or impossible obstacle. Not hearing about a hesitation on the CR in front of that log wall, probably thought it, pulled the trigger anyway.
Good vids mate,
I would like to see 250f v 300st in you're test (moto x track would be cool)
Would love to see a race start, I kicked 300 husky ass on my 250f , I was surprised amout of poke it had
great info and really like your honest opinion on these bikes.. more plz.. also are the bikes bone stock ? keep up the great work and more videos like this plz sir...
Awesome video Adam.... Do like "top-gear" does.... That LOTS of different bikes around that same course👍👍.
Please do the same track with the KTM 350 EXC F (UNcorked🙂👍)
Hello from Uzbekistan!
This dude is amazing.
The 2 stroke ICE... the legendary engineering (as you've said Adam... 😁)
First......of all great video. Both great bikes. For me the 250F would be just fine. Awesome riding mate. Be interested to see your thoughts on the KTM EXC range.👍🇦🇺
Also do you have a video of boost town being built?
It’s time for 125x and 250x mate 👌 comparison between them and the wrs. And also a direct comparison against the cr250
I have found the more power, lower end grunt makes it easier to ride, which is why the 2 strokes are so dominant in this sport. I like the 450 a lot
Can we get a few more episodes of the dirt kitchen maybe even just with WA riders with current lockdown situation.
Also wr250f vs wr450f around a motocross track would be an interesting comparison
Challenge your tyrannical government. Much love from America.
@@Jimmy_Watt Right. With more and more of your freedoms being taken away, theres no point in the future where it gets better all by itself. Those in power do not relinquish it easily once gained and they have now become incentivized to manufacture crisis perpetually. That off my chest, go rip it up!
I love my ktm 300 tpi for enduro but the KYB suspension on the yamaha's are great stuff.. the new wp cone is also very good,but kayaba has the suspension game in their pockets. A ktm with KYB Factory suspension is hard to beat..
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That log wall looks very intimidating
Good vidéo 👍
Hi Adam, could you consider doing a video with the main settings a pro hard enduro would do their 2 stroke 250/300 cc bikes. Any tips you could pass on form your own experience that novices could benefit from. Another good subject to include would be the power valve spring .... When or why you would use Red, Yellow or Green springs. Be it for Hard Enduro or Endurocross - A lot of people seem to have a misconception that red will make you go faster?
could you or would you run a yz250x around boost town and compare to the 450 and 250? , I have a 03 wr450 and a 20 yz250x, I find the agility of the 250 much better, but you've gotten me interested in upgrading the 450 to a current model.... thats for your time!
Bravo 👍
If I had to pick one I’d have 4t. But ultimate solution is both
Great stuff Adam. Any chance of a husky 701 review and maybe comparo with ..cough ..ktm 690.. Would be nice for you to share your thoughts on the. Fe501 vs exc500 ,Toby on the exc and sanders on the husky.👍 All the best.
I just want one already
you're a badass bro.
Awesome!!! Are that blue rims original?
I use a YZ450f 2012 for enduro.
It crushes small & medium logs. Don't need to use the clutch, just a blip of the throttle and the front comes up so easily being less weight.
But big logs I've yet to hit, I would imagine a 2stroke 300 would be easier to accomplish this over a 450.
I miss the orange bikes. Would love to see a 1290 Super adv R on this channel
Lets go 💥💥💥
Cool:)
Most, if not all, pros in Europe and USA use 4 strokes for endurocross.
Looking at enduro/hard enduro the yz250fx would be the weapon? What do you think?
Can you do a review on the 2022 Sherco 450 def factory
I’ve put a deposit down on a 2022 yz250FX after seeing your videos.
I rode a 21 model WR250F and it blew me away !!
I’d rather the slightly more racier version being the yz250FX…
So you got a sale out of me ✊🏼
volume of the video is very low.. n the same issue occurred in last couple of videos.. please get look on that issue..
Muito top.
KTM freeride E-XC would be interesting to see over boost town
Could you and old mate do the last round of pony express on your 2 bangers
How is the 250 on long hill climbs. I see that it has 36 horsepower. That's the same as the husqvarna fe 350. So I'm guessing the wr 250 would do pretty well on a long hill climbs...penny for your thoughts..Haha! Also, I'm curious about the reverse engine design. Does that move to much weight back and make the front end not stick in flat no berm corners? Is that a draw back to that design. Does it make the front end to light? The seat seems short, front to back, is that a problem? I've heard the stock skid plate is fragile? Is the 450 noticeably heavier on switch back type trails or is it minimal? Steve from Ohio USA. THANKS!
Had a Beta 300rr now have a WR 250f and wont ever go back to a 2T Enduro.
I came off a 4t and went to a 2t, for me it was the stalling and hard to start issues the 4 t's still haven't sorted, (even had the thing mapped which didn't do much), just makes the bike that much harder to ride all day. Great video luv the review vids, keep em coming :-)
Have to turn the idle speed up on the 450 to help with the stalling. As well as the obvious heavier flywheel mod.
I have a WR450f and a TE300 2T. Like all sports its nice to have a stable full of steeds for different purposes. I will say that the mountain bike flickability of the TE is so fun on tight an technical single track but once it opens up, man, that 4 stoke flow is amazing!
A good challenge would be between A Rieman and Graham Jarvis
U should do the crf 450rx vs crf 250rx
Ive always been more of a 250F rider...i just get along with them a lot better than 450s..
What year bikes are these?
Get Toby around on the tracks
doesnt the wr250f only weight a few pounds less than the wr450f?
Where is this track, NSW?
ESTA CON TODO ESA YAMAHA
Adam can i visit you?
Wow I have a 15 WR250 with every after market part available on this thing and no freaking way it would get over those obstacles I thought I could build a very capable dirt bike that's street legal didn't happen the front end is just way to heavy I bought a new RMZ problem solved
Would like to see more laps on the moto track with different bikes
Very few riders on 4t in enduro cross? Cmon mate..nearly all of the them are and you no that haha
I don't think I'll ever have the balls to hit any of those obstacles.
maybe a new obstacle each time you gain x number of subscribers, me personally I like to see the YZ250FX compared with the KTM 300 or KTM 250 TPI. In the real world. Great videos !
That would be great !
I’m on a 2020 250tpi Ktm.. I think that the yz250FX would blow it out of the park for most things..
However, the 250tpi would still have the edge in cutting tracks in a hard enduro scenario, as well as manoeuvrability in slow obstacles. It’s just easier to throw around .
I’ll be keeping the 250tpi, but I’ve ordered the 2022 yz250FX for 95% of everything else.
Can’t wait ✊🏼
jsmith , true and in the real world it has to be said also with the hrs on the Wr's , the ktms would already need new wheel bearings spokes tightened if not one lost already along with a suspension fix. Brake fluid boil fade and lets say a good chance looking at the facts a design or manufacturing flaw fixed by now or waiting to be discovered .
@@michaelwalas5948 wow, I don't see too many people liking the YZ-FX over the KTM's. I think the new 22 RX honda might be good also.
I’m new to the sport do t know much, but Japanese bikes seem to be absent in every single enduro/hard enduro event I watch. It’s all Euro.
Always loved the videos Adam but less change your filming and editing style, every time I watch a video it feels like I’m watching the same video, what happened to raw dirt bike noise
4 strokes dominate endurocross
I've been getting left behind on my YZ250 smoker for 3 years by the rich field of thumpers at Endurocross. They seem to mostly be 250 or 350s. I think only Wild Wally Palmer was on a 450. I'm thinking YZ250f for me this year...
Why 🤷♀️
Take the WR s out to your rocks and waterfalls
Don't the wr450fs only weigh another 5kgs
Uufff!)
How much does he get paid for this advertisement?
At the end of the day they are still to heavy. Yamaha needs to lose 13 kg somewhere.
Dirt kitchen
And What was 'enduro' about any of that?
Nothing.
Born into madness and you're adding to the madness I'm observing.
That video was how to smash wheels.
Your tyre walls need to be twice as big on those wheels.
The air cushion ride effect failed multiple times during that video.