Apple Vision Pro: F-14 Tomcat Guy's Perspective
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- Опубліковано 3 кві 2024
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In this episode, Ward unboxes and demos the new Apple Vision Pro and imagines how it might be used for military aviation training.
But is it worth $3,500?
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I like the veiled criticisms: "Says designed by Apple California...but made somewhere else..." "Like every Apple product it has a different connector, so you can't use your iPhone connector or whatever else you might have..."
I tested one at an Apple Store and can confirm, it is mind blowing. But I think it will be a niche product at least for now, because of cost and lack of practical applications.
I don't think it's gonna take very long for the porn/hentai industry to unlock the full capacity of this thing. 😏 Then the others will just copy that code.
I wanted to enter, but I don’t have $50 to spend on a coffee cup just to get one entry. 😏
It's not the mug it's the collectable kewl factor...I'm bout to order but car parts have to be purchased first. Ps Mooch, BoBo sent a shout out...gotta get him front and center Sir! Cheers!!
Not gonna lie,that packaging was top notch!
Suggest a show showing a demo of the 3D visuals of the F-14 with DCS.
Unfortunately Apple doesn't support Windows VR environments... 😂
@@shagrat47 Right. But DCS can run on Windows. Can Ward just borrow a Windows Workstation or Gamer Laptop?
JHMCS for civilians
AR and VR are serious contenders for training applications.
Impressive. Loads of potential for developers with this. Admittedly a steep price, but for simulation and 3d design, the immersion factor is likely well worth paying for. Imagine what an architect could do with this paired with something like Unreal Engine 5 when prospecting clients. Or engineering meetings for mechanical engineers. It definitely has a niche.
I don't worry about going to my car with the goggles,I live in Florida😁😉.
Ward, thank you so much for sharing this. I am learning a lot!!! You are always the best.
Love the dog, what a companion!
Hello Ward, I thought you might be interested that the USS New Jersey, BB62 is in drydock right now for the first time in over 20 years. As you know, battleships like the New Jersey have played a critical role in naval aviation. From ship borne observation to cruise missiles to RPV's (know as drones now). Pretty spectacular event for historical US Navy preservation this past week in Philadelphia.
One technical problem: I have an uncontrolled eye movement that probability won't work with this. Or any eye focus camera that I have tried. My eyes move too fast and don't stop where I'd like
That’s a problem with this.
Ward, I love these tech videos of yours, for they often give a nice segway into a larger point. Here, you brought up a point you only spoke of briefly in the video, but I want to widen the breach into, and that is the training possibilities of augmented reality, as in the SAM situation you spoke of, where augmentation of HMD in SEAD training could display a target site to attack, and SAMs to evade. You have seen the possibilities in ACM training with DCS. I want to start with a historic analogue, and then I will make my point...
During the 1944 Pacific war, then-Commander Richard O' Kane of the USS TANG, would drill his target tracking and fire control party with the charts of a prior engagement, a pre-briefed sailor standing by the sonar shack with an electric razor, and the mic to the 1MC to simulate the target's propellers when the sonarman would wheel around to the target bearing....the tracking party would have to track and engage the target using the TDC and the sound generated bearings. These results could be compared with the chart of the actual engagement...The point is Admiral O'Kane made the scenario as real as he possibly could, and did rather well under 1944 wartime conditions, in a dank and wet diesel-electric submarine. My point is that nothing has changed. We owe it to the people we entrust with our national security to provide the most accurate and realistic training we could possibly provide. That has always been the job, and what you are holding is merely one more iteration of the spirit that impelled O'Kane to come up with an electric razor as a TRAINING AID!
VR like this will really take off this decade.
Eventually VR pods.
Ward, at first I thought, why is Ward getting into video gaming? But I see now that this might be in the realm of simulator scenarios. 👏🏽
Getting into video gaming? Do you even DCS, bro?
@@WardCarroll Obviously not. No need to spit spunk, Ward. My comment was good-natured.
@@Glen.Danielsen Maybe Ward’s comment was good-natured, too. It’s hard to tell with textual messages. That’s why I like to put emojis on comments. 🙂
@@WardCarrollHey Ward, do you have a “DCS squadron” or server where we can participate with you in some of your missions? Even if they aren’t necessarily made into YT videos. Do you ever need some pilots who are just a little more intelligent than the DCS AI? 😀
Have you made any DCS videos on the basics of being an F-14 RIO?
@@Andrew-13579 Good thot, Andrew. Thx 🙂
This seems like it would be a great headset for DCS. You use your hands as a mouse? That eliminates the need for throttles and joystick.
Thanks, Ward.
With all due respect, I don't want anything to do with anything made by Apple.
I am reminded of a scifi short-story I read twenty-plus years ago. Don't remember what it was about, but the line about future traffic laws having a rule about "...not crossing the street in a state of virtual reality" stayed with me, and springs to mind now that the tech is here and Ward said "walking while checking my email". Lol.
This reminds me of Kane in Alien.
I wonder if this technology could be used to help a person with deteriorating vision such as in the case of macular degeneration.
Another step closer to Ready Player One!
How is the instrument panel resolution?
Can you walk to Dunkin and order a coffee over the app😂
Yep
Neuralink from a Tomcat guy’s perspective
Thanks for the opportunity.
I suspect the offer / shipping is likely to be only available to US residents so someone else can have my slot.
That's pretty impressive. I bet the packaging alone cost a chunk
Thanks for the review Mooch. I have been getting the notices from Apple since I'm a Mac guy, but the price is crazy; I know, early in the marketing and they need to recoup their R&D costs.
Would be nice to know how they work with your DCS rig.
BTW, do you have a video of the complete setup (computer) for a DCS rig?
Thanks, HMCS
Senior: I've done episodes about initial DCS rig with Track IR and another one about my switch to VR. Check my DCS playlist on my YT homepage.
@@WardCarroll Will do, thanks. I've been absent from the Happy Hour for a bit. Grandson, travel, life, etc. Will try and make it tomorrow.
@@marcosfaux3465you may already know, but this Apple headset is not compatible with any flight sim or game or steam. That's my understanding at least.
@@Chase1399Aviation Thank you sir, appreciate the feedback and time savings, HA!
Entrepreneurs are always trying to find a way to monetize Apple. I think Apple’s tight control over their brand and no sponsorships really tick off influencers. Kudos to you for using the one Apple product giveaway to entice multiple people to purchase one of your products.
Does the "screen" require some kind of fitting to a particular person's head size and vision?
To be honest the only thing that blows my mind regarding these goggles/toy, is the fact that people are dropping $3500 bucks to get a set!
I can only imagine how good DCS and other simulators will be once we get to 4th or 5th generations of this Apple VR system and others like it !!
Hello Ward, Very interesting piece of gear. I’m not much into VR, however I couldn’t help but notice the stringed instruments behind you. I’m wondering do you own any Martin guitars? I retired from the company after close to 33 years. I enjoy your podcasts keep up the good work. (PS my late father was a 26 year USN veteran).
I’ve used Oculus Rift S and Quest 2. The Rift S requires connecting to a computer. However, it doesn’t have a battery in it, so it’s lighter and cooler. Also, it uses a halo headband so it doesn’t press the goggles to your face, but rests them on your head, somewhat like a helmet. Goggles are only comfortable for about 20 mins. Only problem is its lower display resolution. I still use it, though.
I wish the Quest 2 or 3 would come without a battery…even if it needed a separate power cable. That would make it lighter. Like a higher resolution Rift S. But then have an optional mount to mount it on an ABS plastic “pilot” helmet or most any open-face motorcycle helmet (which aren’t very expensive, but have nice comfortable padding inside and could have ear phones and a microphone mounted in it.)
How long will it take till pressure cooker review?
Is it a good one? (I love to cook.)
Hey Mooch! It seems to me that this tech (or something close to it) would making driving GPS much safer. Sort of like HMDS nav queuing for your Uber driver. Another Great video my dude. Thanks for your service🫡 🤘
I am just waiting for the day it's hopefully able to be hooked in to DCS or MSFS, some 3rd party dev will probably have to do it.
Where is Ward? DC? Annapolis?
Does this work with PCs?
Interesting you avoided the $3499 (with no options) price tag altogether.
What does DCS look like? Better, worse, same? I don’t feel like I need this to be a desktop device .
If you don’t like it, don’t buy it. That’s the beauty of free capitalism. You want a different brand or don’t want VR at all? Cool, do what you want. Thanks for the review Mr Carroll!
Like or not (and I don’t) we’re living in a stunted age of ideas and expression. Let’s go back to stoning people and being scared of the ‘big thing’ in the sky. My God….
Just a thought, it might be cool if someone made a VR set that physically mimicked the looks of an NVG
Mr. Carroll did you try firing DCS up with it or no?
No interface between iOS and PC.
How about X-plane on MacOS?
@@WardCarroll Roger that!
👍 The Bigsby
Mooch- your puppy seems uninterested!
You look sooo good!
Is this giveaway US only?
Yes
But will it run with DCS
It's definitely possible to use this with SteamVR already, I've watched people play Half-Life: Alyx with it recently. IIRC it's being done though ALVR wireless streaming (the USB port is just 480MBit/s USB2 rated BTW, as always with Apple unless it's one of their MacBooks) and AFAIK Guy Godin is working on bringing his Virtual Desktop (the best wireless streaming tool for standalone headsets) to the Vision Pro as well.
The real question is: How much GPU Oomph does the insane resolution require? XD
BTW the FOV is worse than on VR headsets that are made for gaming. Someone I watched using it took off the face gasket completely to get to Quest 2 levels of FOV. Not exactly comfortable, though.
Not out of the box.
Kudos to you for having an open mind to what’s clearly ahead of us all. New ideas or implementations aren’t for everyone. Nice review from a man who knows high value technology. Maybe they should take away advanced HUD visors from all of our fighter pilots. Too bad F-35, F-22, F-15, F-x… drivers. Back to binoculars.
dcs test coming?
No. Doesn’t work with DCS.
Need to be a stealthy purchaser!
How does one get access to his discord?
Oh my, this must be affordable.
Not really . . .
Come… people spend all sorts of money on worthless crap, all the time… the money argument is specious. If one can afford one and wants one, buy it. If neither, don’t. Simple. This is so much more than a VR headset. Within a year it will work on everything if their developers allow it.
@@ronhudson3730 Apple is proprietary.
@@ronhudson3730 the only specious comment here is yours...
Mooch, can you play DCS with this headset? That’s all some of us want to know! Pretty penny for this headset!
Not out of the box.
Nice emblem on your sweatshirt. Go Dodgers!
'I'm looking through you, you're not the same.. ' Sounds familiar....
Apple Records and Apple Computers will never be confused with one another.
This prize draw is unfortunately only for people in USA..
but how does it work in DCS?
At $4000 I’m not gonna be affording that for a long time, probably by the time the next one comes out , can’t justify that cost anyway anyhow. Wonder how it compares to $200 oculus
Link doesn't work
‼️ Just very entertaining ‼️
Did Rick inspire you to get the Bigsby??
No. The guitarist in Simple Minds did.
@WardCarroll: Not testing DCS World? 😉
Still a long way from Ready Player One goggles:)
Try a Meta Quest 3 next?
You giving me one?
but that"s the price of a new guitar?............you folks were thinkin that too, dont lie
I'd rather get some of your Gibsons
Ah... but the $64,000 question is will they work in DCS? Can't afford 2 VR headsets!
Not out of the box.
@@WardCarroll Good to know Ward. Thanks.
Assembled in china by the least paid workforce by the richest company
A Bigsby on the Les Paul... HaHa
No disrespect to you Mr Carroll but I just don't need Apple goggles in my life. Overpriced yuppy crap. I do love your channel though.
Yeah, they're not mine. Did you watch the episode?
@@WardCarrollnot only that, but MrCPPG mistakenly though you would sent them to him!
Thank you for letting us know about the things you don’t want.
I'm not an Apple fan. I would like to try VR in Aces High though 😉
F-35 HMD Yes FOX 4!! New AIM-260
Apple Vision HaHa Noooooo...
Oh my ... Why? Why you advertising scam? Beside... Good luck to use this with DCS
Doesn't look like they are good for those of us who wear glasses.
Need the prescription lens mod for $150.
Gotta say that looks like a 0.5 beta product.
No thanks. The thought of ppl walking around the streets with these is crazy. Life needs to be more simple, not more complex.
I subscribe to many youtubers for various interests, aviation, music, cars, tech etc. While I appreciate you taking the time to do this, I've already seen multiple reviews months ago from specific tech reviewers. I will always click on your aviation related content and when you are on with Rick Beatto but this doesn't feel like your strong side.
Thanks for your input.
With these on, is Ukraine winning, Israel at peace and the Red Sea smooth sailing?
Are you joking, this crap is what is ruining this world, WTH !!!!
Of course not.... i wouldnt want one
$3500 ~ $4300 + tax
My dog will have it shredded within 24/hr's.
You couldn't pay me to take one.
You can pay me, I’ll take one. Please.
@@ronhudson3730 me to but I won't buy one.
Why?
Ok. Now what?
Apple or a VR headset in general?
Hell. No. Just saved you damn near 18 minutes
Don't need to save time when I love watching his videos
sorry cost is way too much.....my son has one he bought for 700 bucks ...works great...dont need their overpriced product....
I dont think I can ever have one of these things. but Enjoy and have fun. I would not drive with one of those on
F-35 HMD Yes FOX 4!! New AIM-260
Apple Vision HaHa Noooooo...