The Batwoman writer's meetings be like: "1. Kate needs to be louder, angrier and have access to a time machine. 2. Whenever Kate's not on screen, all the other characters should be asking, 'Where's Kate?'"
*"SHE'S A MENACE TO THE ENTIRE PUBLIC!!"* "I want every single youtube video and social media post of that winged she-freak so that she can be brought to justice. *"I WANT BATWOMAAAAANNN!!!"*
Let me ask you this: would general audience give an actual shit about the Question. If you answer “yes”, then you are way to naive when it comes to DC and their marketing practice for lesser known characters. I mean seriously look at their recent “Batman” animated movie Soul of the Dragon. Batman wasn’t even the main hero of that film but rather Richard Dragon
I think Kate had two years. As I understand it, there's an unmentioned year gap between episodes 4 and 5 or so, because the show starts before Elseworlds and then needs to quickly catch up to the other shows for Crisis.
The reason that they didn't just say Kate is dead is not because they are hoping Ruby will come back, but because they didn't want to add to the "Bury your Gays" trope.
List of potential established female characters in Batman lore who could've taken up the mantle: Barbara Gordon, Stephanie Brown, Harper Row, Cassandra Cain, Helena Bertinelli, Julia Pennyworth. Hell, Carrie Kelley! I know she's not canon but at least she's established.
Batwoman is such a cool character. It pains me to see what CW has done to her. A Batwoman show with an accurate version of the character would've been so cool to. Wasted potential.
I'm perfectly fine with this new girl not being related at all to Alice. Why you ask? Because there is zero and I mean ZERO excuse for her to let Alice keep getting away with her crimes. Unlike Kate who CONSISTENTLY let Alice slide because of her overused sob story.
you mean that Ryan Wilder is acting like Kate in the comics cause I'm down for that I don't read much batwoman anymore so maybe season 2 will be slightly better it wont be the first two seasons of arrow or 3 seasons of the flash but who knows?
@@merrikpeeps9524 season 3 of flash is cringe as fuck and the plot was shit also season 4 trash and season 5 was so cringe and shit I wanted to die and season 6 has cringe moments
if i had a penny for each time an important cw character went missing i would have 2 pennies but its strange it happened twice (steven from dynasty, and kate from this show)
I want clownkiller. This might seem random, but he seems like an interesting new character that could be explored somewhere. Actually maybe not the cw aka where cool heroes go to die
I would have liked to see Kate's step sister become the new batwoman. It would have made the first season only the beginning of her character arc. Mary was a doctor that helped people indiscriminately and would have become a good batwoman, going from silly/dorky doctor with unrealistic understanding of justice and the way gotham is(that runs her mouth every so often) to learning to fight, keep secrets and broke some bones. Her original unthreatening appearance would help keep her identity a secret. Her already existing hatred towards Alice, who is responsible for her mothers death and her own poisoning, is one more thing that would create continuity in her picking up where Kate left off, training and becoming the bad ass she was meant to be. Her connection to Kate and support she showed in fighting crime gives her a reason to put on the suit and become the symbol herself. It would have made for a more natural transition, and no need for bringing more people into the cast. Also the choice of a black woman feels forced and very much serving an agenda. I get that it is important for proper representation of black people, but how many Asian superheroes do we have so far?
Yeah, as one of those communities CW and DC is desperately trying to target. Why don't they actually listen to us, rather than exploit us? Within the next few weeks as a writer I can easily draft and pitch a Zatanna tv show. You have interesting lore to explore, an awesome protagonist and something to fill the void being created by the end of Supernatural and Sabrina. Plus more Constantine, because who doesn't love him? Just imagine it: "My name Zatanna Zatara, daughter of the world's greatest illusionist. They say that a good magician never reveals his secrets and when my father disappeared, you can bet he had a lot of them. That's why I spend my days carrying on his legacy as the "mistress of magic" and my nights in search of answers in a world of magic, mystery and danger. It's never easy, but as dad would always say "the show must go on."
Well the rumor going around is that Ruby was actually fired. So i'm not sure why they didn't just cast someone else to play Kate, or just kill the character. Cause i doubt they'll bring her back.
They didn't kill the character because according to the showrunner, they want to avoid the Bury your Gays trope. And apparently they still believe that Ruby would return to the show, to finish the plot about Kate's disappearance... somehow...
Should of just recast her I was more than willing too watch a new actress flesh out Kate, for real they only made one season. Besides isn’t that an actor’s/actress’s job to pretend to be someone else. I would get this change more if she was had been on the show for multiple seasons. I guess just disappointing cuz now instead the character people wanted to see fleshed out, is just gone
I'm excited for the new season. Granted it's a bit jarring for a new character but it feels like new life was put into it. With Ruby Rose it seemed like she didn't really care about the role. Javicia seems to enjoy though. As for the dislikes on the video. I say haters who were gonna hate it anyway. They never gave a shit in the first place.
We also saw the Arrowverse Victor Zsasz in the trailer, at least that's something new... I guess that after his peak in popularity that followed *Gotham* and "Birds of Prey", it was high time they also gave the chara a shot... Let's hope he'll be more memorable than the Nolanverse Zsasz.
And there was a sort of Scarecrow goon in the teaser trailer. According to a sort of leak, Scarecrow killed the new Batwoman's mother, and that's the reason why the girl tooks the mantle, to avenge her mother.
I mean movie wise the MCU might not be as hype as the previous phases considering how Endgame came off as fitting end to everything. But television (or rather streaming)wise, yeah you may have a point especially after the release of Wandavision which maybe MCU first real attempt at doing something different.
You talked about the MCU going potentially going down hill, can you elaborate? There's Doctor Strange 2, Spiderman 3, Blade and X-Men coming back and Fantastic Four. What's not to look forward to?
Does anyone else get mad Batman Beyond vibes from the suit? And the logo itself Edit:haven’t watched the show was going to but they I heard the actress left so I was like eh I’ll wait
@@emiliomarbanjr Hahaha i feel ya, but especially with man of steel I've never understood that argument. The human race was about to be completely destroyed and he stopped it
I'm I the only one that thinks it's funny that Ruby Rose a member of the LGBTQ community gets a role that was meant to empower the community then quits because it was hard work. I'm not anti LGBTQ but what kind of message does that send
And that she got a lot of insult on twitter or instagram where haters told her that she wasn't lesbian enough to play Kate, and that was kind of responsible for all the pressure she had in the first season filming.
I honestly stop caring after how awful the first season was. Kate was borderline despicable and the show did whatever it could to make her the absolute best even to the point of constantly treating Batman in a disgusting manner. Hell Luke, Mary and Jacob are arguably the best characters in it. Season 2 changes nothing especially with them repeating the same damn things they did with Batman but this Kate’s considered the hero while Batman’s considered a coward leaving everyone.
So a Batpoop Man, that really smells bad, is good because it represents something very honestly revolting. Get new writers! Strike that, this show cannot be saved.
Gotta say, I enjoyed most of the arrowverse. The CW had a decent track record. But going through and looking at the golden age source material, where's the Plastic Man or the Bullet Man love. I would love to see a DC universe that starts at the "Beginning" of their timeline. Having the Quality comics and the Earths Two, S and Fox. Do the WW2 era of semi campy villains and spy vs spy. Then as you move through the timeline bring out the other Earths, do actual crossovers between Jay Garrick and Barry Allen. Or the two Batmen and Supermen from earth's one and two, have the JSA and JLA crossovers from some of the comics. Then finally do an actual crisis, not the semi coherent fan service that the cw did. Once that's done move on to infinite and final crisis. Then end off with flashpoint. I feel like that would be a great 20-30 years of a TV/Movie universe with the chance to do the reboots for actor contracts and bringing in new audiences. Hell there are soap operas that have lasted over 60 years, why can't a franchise that's lasted 80 have a good story.
She didn't even wash that suit before putting it on, that's just not good in these times. I know this might sound stupid but, was that really Kevin Conroy?
It was a TEASER trailer dude. Not everyone reads all the news and knows all the behind the scene stuff. Too early to prejudge lol! Also review the Bee movie. I agree we need that
Perhaps they could've had their own version of Joker shoot her and play off the Killing Joke or maybe have Joker dead then have Harley go after this Batwoman and Batman
I'm going to disagree with you on the Batman vs Superman, Superman statue🤨Because not everybody in the world hates Superman and it was captured on camera how many times he saved people across the world, not just in America and let's not forget he did save the whole planet from getting terraform. Then at the end of that movie, B v S, he literally gave his life.😭 There's no question about Superman, there is question about Batwoman #fact
If all those people already liked him, I think his death doesn't have a real point and the movie pushing the whole, what I think is, the anti Superman thing I think is contradicted. And I don't buy people liking him for those reasons. I think the people that he did things for may care. Even then, no, all that is not right to give Superman.
@@Dagenspear no, what the movie does is take how people would react in real life. Yes, you would have those who love and look at Superman like a god but then you will have those others who will become paranoid and suspicious of a literal alien, which Superman is. That was kind of the point of Superman in the movies, he was diversify. So yeah, there would be a good portion of Earth's population would create statues and monuments for Superman, just like their would be resentment towards him. Now Vee, was trying to compare the believability that a population would be screaming for these significant Heroes to come back and I disagree with him on Superman because of everything I pointed out
The show is a vehicle for agendas and politics...not entertainment...thats its issue! and being on CW sure doesnt help either!! its the dollar store version of tv networks these days!!
@@attiepollard7847 Bruh. You’re justifying blatant acts of terrorism and treason, over a show botch attempt at inclusivity? This makes me miss the days when Vee makes videos calling out stupidity like this instead of stuff like wrestling and Batman.
@@BigK13372 the storming of the Capitol building was not based on terrorism, nor treason or insurrection. Vandalizing and trespassing that's all it was. If the political elites along with their allies and media and entertainment keep pissing off the American people you're going to see more storming of Capitol buildings and possibly a assassination.
i’m still holding out hope. i never bothered with the first season cos i’m not a fan of ruby rose just in general but when i heard she was out i was actually sort of excited. i love the bat family and like you i really don’t want to hate something bat related lol it pains me. once arrow ended i pretty much fell off the arrowverse entirely so i’d really like a show that could get me back into all of it.
Let's hope *"Superman & Lois"* will be the show that will make us fall in love with the Arrowverse again (if Batwoman season 2 still sucks)... If they fuck that one up, even I will have to stop defending them. Tyler Hoechlin is a solid Superman, I'm really hoping that this show will be the one to bring quality back to the Arrowverse...
@@randallflagg3700 I think Berlanti has a big plan with Diggle. In both shows he is confirmed to return to play the same charecter and they are hinting that he is becoming a certain green charecter. Also while I did not hate the first season it did leave room for improvement as the first season should, but when Rose left this forced them to start from the ground up. I thought that the trailer was okay both me and my brother said that we both felt somthing could be improved upon, but don't take this as they are woke we should only watch streaming content bullshit; it's just that both of us understood that this is them starting over, the main actress is enthusiastic about playing the part and we should judge the product when it comes out. My guess is this season will also be okay but this will allow them to learn & improve. Reply if you have any thoughts, don't reply if you are one of those who just keeps attacking anyone who tries to defend something.
@@kazinadbiralamadit6905 - The ending of the *Crisis* crossover confirmed that Diggle shall also be a Green hero ^_^ And since David Ramsey is listed as a guest in *"Superman & Lois"* , I have a good feeling about it... About the Batwoman season 2 trailer, the only thing I'm pumped about is the reveal of the Arrowverse *Victor Zsasz* \o/ (he's the dude who says "New look") played by Alex Morf. (who played Sykes in Gotham season 5; the John Malkovich-looking leader of the Soothsayers gang) Zsasz gained a cult following thanks to the great *Gotham* show, and lots of people felt like he was one of the only cool things in Birds of Prey; so I hope the CWverse doesn't mess up and provides us with a sweet Zsasz. (And one that uses knives, and knives only this time; we let the guns slide in *Gotham* because Anthony Carrigan is just a perfect human being, but now it's time for the ol' knife nut \o/ )
@@randallflagg3700 like I said Batwoman season 2 is basically a square zero for the writers so this season might be okay or good. Honestly I hope it's good because like I said I am pumped about some Berlanti superhero series right now, they might not be great but when they are good , they are really good. Because with Supergirl & Black lighting ending I am sad but with new series like Green arrow & the canries, Wonder woman & Painkiller new series developed by both old and new creators it is also looking bright. I am also excited for Zsasz.
It got worse now it the worst black TV show ever yes worse than homeboy from outer space and the funny thing is it wasn't intentionally suppose to be it BTW Ryan Wilder is worse than Kate Kane
Thanks to Jon Cryer, the last few episodes of season 4, and season 5 in general where a massive jump in quality thanks to Lex Luthor's presence. Aside from that... well, Arrow season 7 had the great prison storyline + the really _really_ fun 3-parter crossover *"Elseworlds"* (so much better than Crisis) But yeah, the best Arrowverse seasons are now far away... Arrow season 1,2,5 The Flash seasons 1,2,3 and Legends of Tomorrow seasons 2,3 Constantine season 1, etc etc... I'll still give *"Superman & Lois"* a fair chance, but I don't think I'll be giving Batwoman another shot... I'll just tune in for the Hush & Victor Zsasz episodes I guess.
When they can't be more SJW so they broke Comic book accuracy To be more SJW. And I disagree with the MCU part I think they're finally experimenting with ideas rather than using the shitty mcu cookie cutter formula which gives you an average 6-7/10 movie. Cw has always been shit barring Constantine and some seasons of flash.
I kinda liked the show, wish it followed the comics more but I didn't hate the show. I think they should stop trying to do anything outside of Batman for their own sanity, because the fans usually hate anything related to the franchise that isn't Bruce Wayne or some other sidekick dude related to him. Studios generally care about widening their audience so diversity of all types is the only way to get that result, but you guys tend to hate it when they include women or racebend someone or appeal to what's going on in society at the moment. It's like anything that pulls you out of your escapism is bad to you. Yet writers draw their inspiration from that very source and tend to feel compelled to include that in their work. I think the second season is seriously gonna blow chunks because the part of the show that really worked for me was the relationship of the sisters. That whole yin & yang thing was pretty cool. But hey if this new Batwoman can actually ooze acting chops then they may be able to at least end on a good note, possibly even continue. I mean I didn't really like Arrow until season 3. I like the characters on that show and how it's shot in general, as it has such a different feel than the other shows.
I just saw the trailer for the first time. Yeah... All I'm going to say is the dislike to like ratio speaks for itself. Also not to make you HATE anything about the Bat Family; but can you do a video on how Batman Beyond 💩 on EVERYTHING Frank Miller established in the Bat-lore? I have people who call me a HATER every time I say that series is garbage; but honestly that series IS garbage 🗑.
Kate: wait I was fine in the comic, why am I such a jerk on screen?!
Oracle: first time?
Where was Babs done badly?
@@MegaSpideyman In the Killing Joke animated movie
The Batwoman writer's meetings be like:
"1. Kate needs to be louder, angrier and have access to a time machine.
2. Whenever Kate's not on screen, all the other characters should be asking, 'Where's Kate?'"
Nice reference.
😆😆😆
At least she’s not as bad as that MENACE Spider-Man!-J Jonah Jameson at some point in time
*"SHE'S A MENACE TO THE ENTIRE PUBLIC!!"* "I want every single youtube video and social media post of that winged she-freak so that she can be brought to justice. *"I WANT BATWOMAAAAANNN!!!"*
YES! J Jonah Jameson as Spiderman is something I never knew I needed
If they wanted another gay female minority hero..why not pick The Question Renee Montoya instead than some random stranger who found the Batwoman suit
Let me ask you this: would general audience give an actual shit about the Question.
If you answer “yes”, then you are way to naive when it comes to DC and their marketing practice for lesser known characters. I mean seriously look at their recent “Batman” animated movie Soul of the Dragon. Batman wasn’t even the main hero of that film but rather Richard Dragon
She ain't popular how will they milk her?.....edit: I just realized what I said
Sadly because she wasn't Black and in todays woke world whenever ever a white hero needs replacing they have to be black or at least not white.
@@gokux75 just give it a rest dude
I think Kate had two years. As I understand it, there's an unmentioned year gap between episodes 4 and 5 or so, because the show starts before Elseworlds and then needs to quickly catch up to the other shows for Crisis.
That sounds rushed.
They could have made the new Batwoman Luke's sister from the comics but just aged up for this series.
Two videos within a day of each other?! Awesome! Way to go Vee.
More to come!
The reason that they didn't just say Kate is dead is not because they are hoping Ruby will come back, but because they didn't want to add to the "Bury your Gays" trope.
And people wonder why we storm the capital building lmao
List of potential established female characters in Batman lore who could've taken up the mantle: Barbara Gordon, Stephanie Brown, Harper Row, Cassandra Cain, Helena Bertinelli, Julia Pennyworth. Hell, Carrie Kelley! I know she's not canon but at least she's established.
Batwoman is such a cool character. It pains me to see what CW has done to her. A Batwoman show with an accurate version of the character would've been so cool to. Wasted potential.
Bobert Jones yep
I actually liked how she was handled in the Elseworlds crossover. You would have thought that same energy would have carried over to her solo series.
@@gokux75 yeah I feel she works better while bouncing off other characters like Supergirl.
I'm perfectly fine with this new girl not being related at all to Alice. Why you ask? Because there is zero and I mean ZERO excuse for her to let Alice keep getting away with her crimes. Unlike Kate who CONSISTENTLY let Alice slide because of her overused sob story.
I read a review and the first episode got a positive response.
Hey what's your thought on titans i would love to hear them you should do a video
At least she more like her comic counterpart.
you mean that Ryan Wilder is acting like Kate in the comics cause I'm down for that I don't read much batwoman anymore so maybe season 2 will be slightly better it wont be the first two seasons of arrow or 3 seasons of the flash but who knows?
@@merrikpeeps9524 season 3 of flash is cringe as fuck and the plot was shit also season 4 trash and season 5 was so cringe and shit I wanted to die and season 6 has cringe moments
@@merrikpeeps9524 don't watch CW. You want entertainment? Read the comics
Her Comics were better.
if i had a penny for each time an important cw character went missing i would have 2 pennies but its strange it happened twice (steven from dynasty, and kate from this show)
I want clownkiller. This might seem random, but he seems like an interesting new character that could be explored somewhere. Actually maybe not the cw aka where cool heroes go to die
That's.... really odd and yet I kinda wanna see that too
I would have liked to see Kate's step sister become the new batwoman. It would have made the first season only the beginning of her character arc.
Mary was a doctor that helped people indiscriminately and would have become a good batwoman, going from silly/dorky doctor with unrealistic understanding of justice and the way gotham is(that runs her mouth every so often) to learning to fight, keep secrets and broke some bones.
Her original unthreatening appearance would help keep her identity a secret. Her already existing hatred towards Alice, who is responsible for her mothers death and her own poisoning, is one more thing that would create continuity in her picking up where Kate left off, training and becoming the bad ass she was meant to be.
Her connection to Kate and support she showed in fighting crime gives her a reason to put on the suit and become the symbol herself.
It would have made for a more natural transition, and no need for bringing more people into the cast.
Also the choice of a black woman feels forced and very much serving an agenda. I get that it is important for proper representation of black people, but how many Asian superheroes do we have so far?
That's an interesting thought. I also thought about Sofie as batwoman. It could make much more sense than put Ryan in the suit.
I for one, am ready for EFAP episodes on Season 2.
Same
EFAP? What’s that?
What?
Yeah, as one of those communities CW and DC is desperately trying to target. Why don't they actually listen to us, rather than exploit us?
Within the next few weeks as a writer I can easily draft and pitch a Zatanna tv show. You have interesting lore to explore, an awesome protagonist and something to fill the void being created by the end of Supernatural and Sabrina. Plus more Constantine, because who doesn't love him?
Just imagine it:
"My name Zatanna Zatara, daughter of the world's greatest illusionist. They say that a good magician never reveals his secrets and when my father disappeared, you can bet he had a lot of them. That's why I spend my days carrying on his legacy as the "mistress of magic" and my nights in search of answers in a world of magic, mystery and danger. It's never easy, but as dad would always say "the show must go on."
Great introduction 👍
Okay you piqued my interest. I need that review of the Bee Movie 😆.
Well the rumor going around is that Ruby was actually fired. So i'm not sure why they didn't just cast someone else to play Kate, or just kill the character. Cause i doubt they'll bring her back.
They didn't kill the character because according to the showrunner, they want to avoid the Bury your Gays trope.
And apparently they still believe that Ruby would return to the show, to finish the plot about Kate's disappearance... somehow...
Ruby herself confirmed that she was fired and she made it clear she doesn't want to work in the Batwoman series ever again.
Should of just recast her I was more than willing too watch a new actress flesh out Kate, for real they only made one season. Besides isn’t that an actor’s/actress’s job to pretend to be someone else. I would get this change more if she was had been on the show for multiple seasons. I guess just disappointing cuz now instead the character people wanted to see fleshed out, is just gone
Ray is the best Sky walker so
If you want to be a silent ‘invisible’ ninja vigilante....you want an ENORMOUS curly, frizzy afro hairstyle.
i legit didnt even know there was a batwoman show.
Soooo we getting that Hard Times of RJ Berger analysis?!?!?!
Eventually? Absolutely
Are you going to do a video on 2004 “The Batman” cartoon?
Absolutely
I'm excited for the new season. Granted it's a bit jarring for a new character but it feels like new life was put into it. With Ruby Rose it seemed like she didn't really care about the role. Javicia seems to enjoy though. As for the dislikes on the video. I say haters who were gonna hate it anyway. They never gave a shit in the first place.
I just want Bruce to come back. I’m excited to see Hush.
Been reading the comics about it and gonna continue read e'm
i hear scarecrow will be there!
Scarecrow will be fun
We also saw the Arrowverse Victor Zsasz in the trailer, at least that's something new...
I guess that after his peak in popularity that followed *Gotham* and "Birds of Prey", it was high time they also gave the chara a shot...
Let's hope he'll be more memorable than the Nolanverse Zsasz.
And there was a sort of Scarecrow goon in the teaser trailer.
According to a sort of leak, Scarecrow killed the new Batwoman's mother, and that's the reason why the girl tooks the mantle, to avenge her mother.
@@marvelousdcgeek9761 so he will be a main villain? i really hope for a big fat yes
@@randallflagg3700 he was in birds of prey?
Do you know batman telltale ? It’s really great !! I saw it on UA-cam ! I recommend seeing it, it’s fantastic
If I am a children should I worry that the opposite of piss off is shit on?
Just be pissed off and just wish for this b******* go away
How many post end game movies have released? 1?
1 on 2019, and now they'll release few miniseries.
@@marvelousdcgeek9761 So, why do people think it is dead post end game? Far From Home wasn't bad.
The first episode is literally titled “what ever happened to kate kane” what did you expect dude?
UGH----- this is BIZARRO WORLD ...
I miss Batwoman. This show was so horribly bad I fell in love with it!
tbh i didnt think ruby rose was that bad, she was ok, it was the shitty writing that made her performance suffer,
Ikr? She tried her best with what she was given.
I'm not sure I agree with the MCU going downhill with the new Disney + trailers being kinda hype and interesting at least.
I mean movie wise the MCU might not be as hype as the previous phases considering how Endgame came off as fitting end to everything.
But television (or rather streaming)wise, yeah you may have a point especially after the release of Wandavision which maybe MCU first real attempt at doing something different.
The Arrowverse wasn't amazing either, it was more of a novelty.
That said the novelty is wearing thin.
You talked about the MCU going potentially going down hill, can you elaborate? There's Doctor Strange 2, Spiderman 3, Blade and X-Men coming back and Fantastic Four. What's not to look forward to?
Does anyone else get mad Batman Beyond vibes from the suit? And the logo itself Edit:haven’t watched the show was going to but they I heard the actress left so I was like eh I’ll wait
Read the comics
Just saying, Henry Cavill saved the WHOLE PLANET twice.
It still feels kinda forced tho. Humanity ain't that grateful before you pass out.
@@emiliomarbanjr Hahaha i feel ya, but especially with man of steel I've never understood that argument. The human race was about to be completely destroyed and he stopped it
I would’ve liked if alice somehow made bat woman into one or her hentch people but we don’t find out until the end of season 2
Or how about we just stick to the damn comics and not political correctness
I'm I the only one that thinks it's funny that Ruby Rose a member of the LGBTQ community gets a role that was meant to empower the community then quits because it was hard work. I'm not anti LGBTQ but what kind of message does that send
And that she got a lot of insult on twitter or instagram where haters told her that she wasn't lesbian enough to play Kate, and that was kind of responsible for all the pressure she had in the first season filming.
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I honestly stop caring after how awful the first season was. Kate was borderline despicable and the show did whatever it could to make her the absolute best even to the point of constantly treating Batman in a disgusting manner. Hell Luke, Mary and Jacob are arguably the best characters in it.
Season 2 changes nothing especially with them repeating the same damn things they did with Batman but this Kate’s considered the hero while Batman’s considered a coward leaving everyone.
Why don’t they show Batman the robins where
Are they
Like that Conroy capper.
How the fuck did you get kevin Conroy's cameo?
It's always the back alley in the Arrowverse
I didn't want to hate any Star Trek. Then along came STD,. Watching it you start to feel a burning sensation in your brain. STD is terrible Star Trek.
So a Batpoop Man, that really smells bad, is good because it represents something very honestly revolting. Get new writers! Strike that, this show cannot be saved.
Oh boy I got 5 seconds in. Sacked!!
Damn Bat people always disappearing. Mr Jameson as spidey would be the best thing ever.
Gotta say, I enjoyed most of the arrowverse. The CW had a decent track record. But going through and looking at the golden age source material, where's the Plastic Man or the Bullet Man love. I would love to see a DC universe that starts at the "Beginning" of their timeline. Having the Quality comics and the Earths Two, S and Fox. Do the WW2 era of semi campy villains and spy vs spy. Then as you move through the timeline bring out the other Earths, do actual crossovers between Jay Garrick and Barry Allen. Or the two Batmen and Supermen from earth's one and two, have the JSA and JLA crossovers from some of the comics. Then finally do an actual crisis, not the semi coherent fan service that the cw did. Once that's done move on to infinite and final crisis. Then end off with flashpoint. I feel like that would be a great 20-30 years of a TV/Movie universe with the chance to do the reboots for actor contracts and bringing in new audiences. Hell there are soap operas that have lasted over 60 years, why can't a franchise that's lasted 80 have a good story.
Our Batwoman can not get less woke and undesira-
BLACK CUZ REASONS!!!!
She didn't even wash that suit before putting it on, that's just not good in these times.
I know this might sound stupid but, was that really Kevin Conroy?
Yes it was, you can buy his voice for a limited time
this reminds me of the catwoman movie
Yeah we're not going to talk about that movie ever again please
Knowing this show, they'll make it cannon that batman was only around for six months just to prop up batwoman!!
They'll have to retcon their own timeline then.
Stop being dramatic
Bat-clam
The arrowverse ended 4 me after arrow season 3
How you gonna fight crime without getting you're weave constantly ripped off
It's a wig, just like how Kate had a red wig but was actually a short haired brunette. Ryan's real hair looks different.
@@IHARumor isn't a weave a type of wig?
dont forget about my boy Lucifer Morningstar
It was a TEASER trailer dude. Not everyone reads all the news and knows all the behind the scene stuff. Too early to prejudge lol!
Also review the Bee movie. I agree we need that
reviewing the teaser is torture enough
@@WillsonT011 LMAO!
Perhaps they could've had their own version of Joker shoot her and play off the Killing Joke or maybe have Joker dead then have Harley go after this Batwoman and Batman
Batgirl/=/Batwoman
i'd pay for JJJ as spiderman
You're getting better at dissing yourself idk if that's good or bad lol
I'm going to disagree with you on the Batman vs Superman, Superman statue🤨Because not everybody in the world hates Superman and it was captured on camera how many times he saved people across the world, not just in America and let's not forget he did save the whole planet from getting terraform. Then at the end of that movie, B v S, he literally gave his life.😭
There's no question about Superman, there is question about Batwoman #fact
If all those people already liked him, I think his death doesn't have a real point and the movie pushing the whole, what I think is, the anti Superman thing I think is contradicted. And I don't buy people liking him for those reasons. I think the people that he did things for may care.
Even then, no, all that is not right to give Superman.
@@Dagenspear no, what the movie does is take how people would react in real life. Yes, you would have those who love and look at Superman like a god but then you will have those others who will become paranoid and suspicious of a literal alien, which Superman is.
That was kind of the point of Superman in the movies, he was diversify. So yeah, there would be a good portion of Earth's population would create statues and monuments for Superman, just like their would be resentment towards him.
Now Vee, was trying to compare the believability that a population would be screaming for these significant Heroes to come back and I disagree with him on Superman because of everything I pointed out
having a wig
attached to the batsuit
is ridiculous & pointless
TYPICAL ALT RIGHT!
Lol wut
The show is a vehicle for agendas and politics...not entertainment...thats its issue! and being on CW sure doesnt help either!! its the dollar store version of tv networks these days!!
I feel bad for ppl who watch CW shows
Hey look, Jordon Peel got a staring role in another tv show, good for him lol
And you want to know why we stormed the capital lmao God I hate the 21st century of political wokeness
@@attiepollard7847 huh?
@@johnnyhellfire6 political correctness and racial identity.
@@attiepollard7847 Bruh. You’re justifying blatant acts of terrorism and treason, over a show botch attempt at inclusivity?
This makes me miss the days when Vee makes videos calling out stupidity like this instead of stuff like wrestling and Batman.
@@BigK13372 the storming of the Capitol building was not based on terrorism, nor treason or insurrection. Vandalizing and trespassing that's all it was. If the political elites along with their allies and media and entertainment keep pissing off the American people you're going to see more storming of Capitol buildings and possibly a assassination.
Oh... ok
If she was straight she would have already been fired and we wouldn't even be talking about anything
And people want to know why we storm the Capitol building
God damn it Vee we had this discussion you NEED to review Bee movie or it’s the Batman mask time. Be movie or we riot DC style 😂😂
This show is gonna go down faster than a chubby white chick in a blue dress in the Oval Office.
Despite the fact you are right… I enjoyed the new batwoman.. but yeah it’s blah.
The worst show CW has ever done
i’m still holding out hope. i never bothered with the first season cos i’m not a fan of ruby rose just in general but when i heard she was out i was actually sort of excited. i love the bat family and like you i really don’t want to hate something bat related lol it pains me. once arrow ended i pretty much fell off the arrowverse entirely so i’d really like a show that could get me back into all of it.
Let's hope *"Superman & Lois"* will be the show that will make us fall in love with the Arrowverse again (if Batwoman season 2 still sucks)... If they fuck that one up, even I will have to stop defending them.
Tyler Hoechlin is a solid Superman, I'm really hoping that this show will be the one to bring quality back to the Arrowverse...
@@randallflagg3700 I think Berlanti has a big plan with Diggle. In both shows he is confirmed to return to play the same charecter and they are hinting that he is becoming a certain green charecter. Also while I did not hate the first season it did leave room for improvement as the first season should, but when Rose left this forced them to start from the ground up. I thought that the trailer was okay both me and my brother said that we both felt somthing could be improved upon, but don't take this as they are woke we should only watch streaming content bullshit; it's just that both of us understood that this is them starting over, the main actress is enthusiastic about playing the part and we should judge the product when it comes out. My guess is this season will also be okay but this will allow them to learn & improve. Reply if you have any thoughts, don't reply if you are one of those who just keeps attacking anyone who tries to defend something.
@@kazinadbiralamadit6905 - The ending of the *Crisis* crossover confirmed that Diggle shall also be a Green hero ^_^
And since David Ramsey is listed as a guest in *"Superman & Lois"* , I have a good feeling about it...
About the Batwoman season 2 trailer, the only thing I'm pumped about is the reveal of the Arrowverse *Victor Zsasz* \o/
(he's the dude who says "New look")
played by Alex Morf.
(who played Sykes in Gotham season 5; the John Malkovich-looking leader of the Soothsayers gang)
Zsasz gained a cult following thanks to the great *Gotham* show, and lots of people felt like he was one of the only cool things in Birds of Prey;
so I hope the CWverse doesn't mess up and provides us with a sweet Zsasz.
(And one that uses knives, and knives only this time; we let the guns slide in *Gotham* because Anthony Carrigan is just a perfect human being, but now it's time for the ol' knife nut \o/ )
@@randallflagg3700 like I said Batwoman season 2 is basically a square zero for the writers so this season might be okay or good. Honestly I hope it's good because like I said I am pumped about some Berlanti superhero series right now, they might not be great but when they are good , they are really good. Because with Supergirl & Black lighting ending I am sad but with new series like Green arrow & the canries, Wonder woman & Painkiller new series developed by both old and new creators it is also looking bright. I am also excited for Zsasz.
@@randallflagg3700 Wasn't it in the Arrow finale where it was confirmed that Diggle will be a Green Lantern not Crisis?
I keep watching it, to see how much more ridiculous it will get.
Hollywood says NO to red hair
Seriously, this couldn't get any worse.
Warner bro needs help badly because if this show fails they lose another cash grab.
They should fail right now just unlock their lesson to stop putting political correctness in shows
This show would Benefit from a Robin and i think they should have Tim drake Robin
Titans Season 3 is going to bring in an african american Tim Drake to later make him the lead of a spin-off about the *Teen* Titans.
@@marvelousdcgeek9761 when did this news come out
Well you were wrong about marvel lol let’s just hope DC steps up there shit but I doubt they’ll ever catch up to marvel :(
And no new viewers.
It got worse now it the worst black TV show ever yes worse than homeboy from outer space and the funny thing is it wasn't intentionally suppose to be it BTW Ryan Wilder is worse than Kate Kane
ok
The arrowverse has been on a downhill for the past 5 years
Thanks to Jon Cryer, the last few episodes of season 4, and season 5 in general where a massive jump in quality thanks to Lex Luthor's presence.
Aside from that... well, Arrow season 7 had the great prison storyline + the really _really_ fun 3-parter crossover *"Elseworlds"*
(so much better than Crisis)
But yeah, the best Arrowverse seasons are now far away... Arrow season 1,2,5 The Flash seasons 1,2,3 and Legends of Tomorrow seasons 2,3 Constantine season 1, etc etc...
I'll still give *"Superman & Lois"* a fair chance, but I don't think I'll be giving Batwoman another shot... I'll just tune in for the Hush & Victor Zsasz episodes I guess.
When they can't be more SJW so they broke Comic book accuracy To be more SJW. And I disagree with the MCU part I think they're finally experimenting with ideas rather than using the shitty mcu cookie cutter formula which gives you an average 6-7/10 movie. Cw has always been shit barring Constantine and some seasons of flash.
.we're gonna get so many "oh it was so much better with the old actress it's goin downhill now" dude this show was always trash
Batwoman was better in John Wick 2
I like most of the Arrowverse but only actively watch Legends of Tomorrow.
I kinda liked the show, wish it followed the comics more but I didn't hate the show. I think they should stop trying to do anything outside of Batman for their own sanity, because the fans usually hate anything related to the franchise that isn't Bruce Wayne or some other sidekick dude related to him. Studios generally care about widening their audience so diversity of all types is the only way to get that result, but you guys tend to hate it when they include women or racebend someone or appeal to what's going on in society at the moment. It's like anything that pulls you out of your escapism is bad to you. Yet writers draw their inspiration from that very source and tend to feel compelled to include that in their work.
I think the second season is seriously gonna blow chunks because the part of the show that really worked for me was the relationship of the sisters. That whole yin & yang thing was pretty cool. But hey if this new Batwoman can actually ooze acting chops then they may be able to at least end on a good note, possibly even continue. I mean I didn't really like Arrow until season 3. I like the characters on that show and how it's shot in general, as it has such a different feel than the other shows.
good points all done without sounding butthurt great job man 👌.
@@kwayneboy1524 HAhah, the sarcasm is strong with this one. 🧐
@@Unworshipediety that wasn't sarcasm but take it as you want bud.
@@kwayneboy1524 Ah ok no worries thanks then for the comment. Just wasn't sure was all, I'm quite used to being insulted in these sorts of threads.
Should trade. We give Black people Batman and in return? WHITE LUKE CAGE. its win win.
For right now keep my Batman White because I do not want to give the social justice a hoes to satisfaction right now not until I'm dead
I just saw the trailer for the first time. Yeah... All I'm going to say is the dislike to like ratio speaks for itself. Also not to make you HATE anything about the Bat Family; but can you do a video on how Batman Beyond 💩 on EVERYTHING Frank Miller established in the Bat-lore? I have people who call me a HATER every time I say that series is garbage; but honestly that series IS garbage 🗑.
😂 buddy I got some news for you, he actually liked the show 😂😂
@@kwayneboy1524 ugh. 😒
@@Nick-up5wv 😂
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No. Just No