Words from a german streamer i watch often, about being bros with Poles (forget the politics, think just about common people) is actually warming my heart, imagine if someone would think 80 years ago, that we will be in such terms.
most of poland today is germany, most of prussia territory was given to poland after ww2, but i know many germans who sees poles as untrustworthy, the grief is still there.
@@felipewerner6670 most of poles would've preferred territories before ww2 but we had no say in this matter, Stalin took eastern territories and "gave" us western ones, it would be foolish to have such populace with small country, if we were to reject western ones.
I woke up because my best friend who's a Ukrainian, called me in the morning. I had told her the week before to already go to the border as I felt like it would happen. Now she is safe here.🙏
I remember that it had already been predicted a few hours earlier and it became known that it had started when Russian soldiers had seized a border checkpoint in Crimea.
I don't know what it means to get used to war. If you mean the childish bullshit with people wanting to shoot guns at people, and play soldier, then yeah that is something we don't want. If you mean get used to it as a thing which we shouldn't prepare for and expect? Then no. Because it's inevitable, unavoidable in some form or another, and a part of human nature. And trying to be pacifist is childish. But I don't think that's your position, but I know that's the origins of pacifism, is people listening to good arguments against war, and taking them to the extreme. In all seriousness my man, I hope that Ukraine is liberated from Russia, and that you all can celebrate by the end with a free and united Ukraine. Including the Donbass, and Crimean regions. Love and support from America.
@@I_like_big_bombs I totally agree with you. Actually, for me it is one of the most interesting topics to talk about as I study international security. In my opinion, pacifism is a utopia. Like anarchy. War as a phenomenon can end only when the very essence of man changes, but evolution takes countless millions of years. By “don’t get used to it” I meant that people get over the initial shock and start to treat war as status quo. That’s also in our nature. We (Ukrainians) made the same mistake after 2014 as a matter of fact. Many people decided it’s easier to ignore the fact our boys die in the frontlines, but we’ve been at war for 8 years. I talk not about our politicians (although I have many questions for them as well), but about people who got on with their lives as if nothing happened and didn’t draw any conclusions. Thankfully, most of the those I know are responsible and do their best to help in every way possible. EU decided to ignore this as well (it’s not an accusation, I understand that their priority is to make gas for their people cheaper). But our partners got used to the fact that russia annexed Crimea pretty quickly. Also not an accusation, I understand they have their problems to deal with, but it hurts. I was born in Crimea myself. I still have relatives there. Haven’t seen them since then. But we need the support of international community because it is one of our main strengths. For me it is serious. I live 35 km from front line. Both my parents are in the armed forces, my boyfriend as well. I am kinda a girl 20 years of age so I decided I will be more useful in humanitarian headquarters. The kids I see every day.. it’s just painful, they are so devastated, left without their parents. Nobody deserves it. We need to do our utmost to end it. I know we will win, the question is only how many lives it’s going to take. And thank you for supporting us
i was awake when it started. First the report of increased fighting, bombing. Then came the declaration from Putin, and i watched it live, followed by border conflicts minutes after. It seemed so unreal..
The day this started I panicked HARD I thought in only a few hours I would look outside and see a nuke... I was crying, I tooked my dogs upstairs to my room and waited... nothing happened I calmed down and learned more about the war and got myself educated. I talked myself into being calm saying that nobody is that MAD to launch a nuke.
Thank you from Ukraine for watching this and sharing this with your audience. And I must say your commentary is interesting and opinionated in comparison to other boring and almost silent reactions to the same video. Good job. Thank you for spreading the word. And good luck to you in your projects.
49:20 The worst thing about this video is that, they don't ask the question "Why do every russian neighbour want to join EU and Nato? What are they afraid of?" There might actually be real reason for them to be suspicious of russia.
The reason every russian neighbour wants to join EU and NATO is because they are scared of invasion from russia, who has shown for decades to love invading its neighbours for no real reason. it is not that complicated
Especially why they keep doing it over and over after Russia fought back Georgia in South Osetia. They think that Russia will not protect their borders from NATO or what?
The reason cited by Germany for invading Poland was a reported attack of polish troops on German Radiobuilding Gleiwitz, which was a false flag attack commited by SS troops. You compare this with the 15.000 people killed by ukranian army shelling civilian areas including +100 children deaths over the course of 8 years in Donbas since 2014? Pretty poor history knowledge you got there white boy
I was playing Squad that first day of the war. The dudes just keep voice chatting about Ukraine so I searched Google, and my first thought was "holy molly they did it"
It's time for Europe to unite and get its autonomy back. We are depending on Russia for energy, we are depending on the US for any military development, we are depending on China for our industry. We have to regain our independence. We must not allow anyone to sabotage this, we must look into our own mistakes and fix them. We are not treated only by Putin or Erdogan, who both want to expand (look at what is happening in Cyprus, Putin is basically doing what mr Erdogan is trying to do), we are also threatened internally. We, as Europe, have spent so much time focusing on Germany for any Far right ideologies that we have forgotten that mr Moustache Man was in fact Austrian. Look at France where Madame Lepain almost won the elections, look at Hungary, Poland, Austria, Greece and yes even Ukraine. We have to answer to our mistakes and win our future back this is the only way.
Mustache man fought for the Germans in ww1 and not for the Austrians. Mustache man wanted a greater GERMAN empire, not Austrian. Mustache man married a German woman, not Austrian. Mustache man was German, end of story
@@dalibornovakovic93 you don't get the point. Our focus on Germany for this types of ideologies has allowed them to spread in other countries of Europe, and this our fault
It is because after world war 2 Europe was on a steep decline. They distanced themselves from nazis so much that they basically all became losers with poor economies, anti right liberals that want to being more Muslims in to make Torheit country less stable so that it depends more and more on foreign influence because their country is a shithole and everybody is leaving so the population is on the decline. Germany was true best country in Europe until the war. Then Russia ruined all of Eastern Europe because the idiots in the west funded the communists, which was definitely a huge mistake
im from kyiv but i lived in nova kahovka for a long time when they captured my grandparents were still there it was horrible, but now few weeks ago they finally made it out but still with a big accident that had them almost be killed
I agree that we should cooperate more in the EU. The ultimate goal is reorganizing it into recreation of the greatest state in history, as a Rzeczpospolita Dwudziestu Siedmiu Narodów. Name can be easily changed reflecting integration of other nations into this empire.
@@lol_histicall4289 Intermarium (Międzymorze, really easy to spell) is rather political complex of alliances. RDSN (Commonwealth of Twenty-Seven Nations) would be federalized state. Also every country in EU would get then their own Husars units.
To be honest nasionalism in context of what is happening is quite a dumb idea for long run, like yeah cool, you win the war but know every piece of land have been bomb either by nuclear or conventional bomb everything have been destroyed and having a mental breakdown imagining the world before the war, if we just unite then all this bullshit wouldn't happen, and perhaps we alredy got a colony in moon and sending people to mars
The problem with people today, especially in the west is people not feeling empathy towards people they cannot physically see. As an American, I always hear people saying the war is not our problem because it doesn't involve "Americans" or it's far away. They'd rather compare the Ukrainian war to high gas prices or baby food shortages, I find it incredibly sad that people would rather save already well-off Americans 20$ than send aid to Ukraine and save "foreign" lives. Just because someone wasn't born in our country we don't feel as much empathy towards them, at least comparatively to the empathy we feel towards our own local people, I personally believe it's because humans have a hard time visualizing things on a large scale and can't comprehend something they've never personally seen with their own eyes. Try breaking this habit and place yourself in the shoes of others, not just in the Ukraine war, but also in things like politics, see the world from every perspective!
No, that's not it. A lot of people just don't care if strangers die, and both you and me are ultimately the same in that regard. It sucks if you hear someone on your street died, but you're not going to attend the funeral are you? It's the same thing just on a bigger scale. If you want to force people into action, you have to relate the deaths of strangers to something that overlaps with their interests.
As an American I have to say I am one of “those people” it’s not that I am a barbarian or hate Ukrainians, but in my opinion a stable USA with less inflation and a stronger economy is more important then the fate of Ukraine, yes this is influenced by my personal wants, but I also hold that it is better for the world as a whole to have a stable US, the fallout of inflation (from Ukraine but also other failed US policy) will be hitting us all sooner than later.
@@johngalt5166 Sorry for basically replying to a comment you don't even remember you've left. But... As a Ukrainian I think it's important to understand that this invasion isn't just about fate of Ukraine as a state, your economy and prices in your store. If we were to fail, it both gives a signal that nuclear threats work better than any international law (that otherwise would call in peacekeepers) AND that Russia can continue with their imperialism, maybe even threatening NATO nations. Well, that's on top of Ukrainian nation being suppressed and forcefully culturally assimilated into Russia, but I guess that's the part you don't care about. Something like Moldova 100% would get attacked after Ukraine. Another war in Europe would start from the very same threat - imperialistic Russia. Invading Baltic countries by cutting off their land supply chains through Belarus and Kaliningrad oblast, surprisingly, has more chances of happening then some might think in case of Russia succeeding here. After all, if international laws didn't work, if UN didn't work, Budapest memorandum didn't work, how can anyone be certain that NATO will? It might start a race for obtaining nuclear weapons asap, as no other organization can guarantee integrity of your national border and independence. So I advise you think of that as an investment in peace of the whole world and economic stability later on. If not dealt with now, will have to deal with it later, possibly on a larger scale. Crimea, "DPR" and "LPR" were merely part 1 of the invasion in 2014. And nobody responded strong enough, including Ukraine, as we were weakened. But if you look at a larger picture you can see Georgian invasion in 2008. Russia as of now is a dangerous state that threatens every neighbor with invasions and genocide, be that cultural or literal. As for foreign counties outside their immediate reach they use nukes as a threat, lol. And I don't think that's a behavior that should be rewarded with more territorial gain.
@@ibroplatin4915 I am not chechen, but i was born and lived in Chechnya till i turned 12. After that we moved to Germany, because there is nothing to do in Chechnya. Kadyrov is running everything there, if you dont have connections you cant survive. If Djohar Dudaev was alive and in charge, Chechnya would be a normal country. My father wasn't even a chechen but he fought together with this man.
Azov is multinational multilanguage and multireligios batalion ) there is mariupol's greeks, ukrainians, russians, belarus, azerbaycani, moldovians etc etc
I'm Ukrainian and you say really really important things, interested to hear... Especially about some lezy eastern democrats. Its our Vietnam with huge, but not twisty, aggressive, but stupidly enemy. And of course Huge Thanks everybody and everyone fore support 👍
What would the world be like without nukes? A hole lot more unstable, I mean think about it, how many conflicts have been avoided because of nuclear weapons? The cold war wouldn't have been cold, it would have been a third world war and the only reason it didn't is because of nuclear weapons.
Wonder how well this viewpoint will age. Isn't it kind of only a matter of time until a conflict involving nukes finally does kick-off? I hope I'm wrong, I mean, we have manged almost a century without such a conflict, right?
my sister supports russia and sees their action as justified and calls me an idiot nazi for supporting ukraine we live in the netherlands btw and here there aare huge amounts of ppl that believe that nato mercenarys commited those warcrimes to frame russia.......smh
@@killianvanrotterdam9111 Nazis in ukraine is not a surprise since the urss raped ukraine multiple times. But its a joke, because nazis hated slavs and want them as slaves. Hittler would bake a pie of slav flesh anytime.
The Cold War with the Soviet Union never ended. The USSR just lost territory and changed its name. The Cold War is still ongoing. And Ukraine is victim of more Russian aggression.
That is not true Dommy. Before and during WW1 and WW2 the people had the same mentality; ignoring what they can ignore. Do you know why Dommy? Because everyone is a bitter cynic, like we where a 100 years ago. No; like we have always been! Look at the world. The amount of ignoring is equal to the amount of suffer. Juicers call it coping :)
We're so dependent on russian gas because we like to just not have cheap nuclear power thats just the stupidest thing Nuclear power is way greener than gas or coal
its funny how people talk like Mearsheimer is the one and be all in academia. He is a professor in one sub-school of a school of thought in the field of International Relations Theory.
Russia: Let's fight fake genocide by committing real genocide. Putin: Yeah, and this special military operation will only be 3 days. Trust me bro. War lasts more than a year. Idiots: I trust Vladdy Putz with all my black heart and empty mind.
Man, really thank's for your oppinion. See people who gives their support to Ukraine is really important to us. P. S. A bit of my history, if interesting, just in a short... I'm from Kiev i wanted to go, to army when all of this shit started (despite the serious problems with my eyes, i'm a pretty cool engenier and have a bacalour degree in computer sience and electronics, so think i would be rather usefull in the army) but my father told me: "I'll go instead of you. You don't have kids, so till you make a baby with some pretty girl, i don't wonna see you risking your life". He know what he had said... I'm rather hot-headed. I went thru the revolution in 2014 and had an injure from a granade... So now, my father as a member of Ukraine military forces fights for our, Ukrainan people.
@@coraldestroyer4202 In summer 2023 he was demobilised from army cause of injure. 2 operations and 3 monthes of reabilitation now all is fine with him. Thanks for ask. About the sad 3 weeks ago was a funeral of my brother. He was killed near Kherson. He was a member of Ukrainan marine forces.
@@vladkonyh980 Hope your father is doing better. i am very sorry for your loss. your brother is a hero, not just for ukraine but for all of europe. i am very thankfull for the brave people of ukraine, who are fighting against tyranny. my older brother joined the international legion last year also, he is near orikhiv at the moment i think.
when I woke up from the explosions at 5 in the morning, I did not believe that it had begun, but I immediately believed in Ukraine from the first second
@@sb17899 still is. It's been more than 3 months (assault started on 3rd march) of the second world millitary trying to take 100k city LOL. In few weeks they will prob take it, but it will prob take another month to take Lysychansk. And like 3-4 months to take Slovyansk, Kramatorsk (they together are bigger than Mariupol, they will not be encircled, the forces will be always getting resupplied and reinforced, if a mariupol took 3 months, this thing can take half a year straight up)
I thought of September1913 by W.B. Yeats when tommy mentioned the people worrying about the price of petrol What need you, being come to sense, But fumble in a greasy till And add the halfpence to the pence And prayer to shivering prayer, until You have dried the marrow from the bone; For men were born to pray and save: Romantic Ireland’s dead and gone, It’s with O’Leary in the grave.
when a country and its people want to join this or that union, they have every right to do so, it is logical only for some reason for the residents of Crimea who wanted to join Russia, a just europe forbade them to do so, democracy is such a democracy it works only when you need it
The Chinese military is way worse than Russia's. China's military is built from russian equipment and stolen knock off international equipment. They don't even have a joint command structure and are mostly conscripts. Nothing to be concerned about.
I aint simpin but I've always loved Ukraine but it's truly sad what's happening and wish this war will end already with best interest for Ukrainian people not their Politian's.
9:55 so trained they record themselves in military bases and schools and forget to delete the meta data containing their coordinates (yes modern cameras and phones record the coordinates and time of recording a video, thats how mcaffee got found out by the feds) resulting in balistic and cruise missiles being launched directly at their head.
В одном только Мариуполе находилось около 17.000 бойцов ВСУ и нац-батов. Эти 2-4 тысячи - это, наверное, только разорванные на части российской артиллерией.🤣
Idk if Tommy will see this. But the difference between the middle east and Ukrainian refugees is relation and culture difference. Ukrainians as a culture are much closer to europe as a whole. Middle easterners simply put have a vastly different culture set. They have no respect for women, no respect for freedom of religion, expression and secularity too. A key example were the muslim killings in France. They were in France, yet want the French to live by their cultural laws of no caricatures of the “holy” Muhammad. My parents came from india, and they assimilated really well here in the US, to the point that in my personal family, im the white washed one, which for us meant that out of all my cousins, i was the most “americanized” in a way. Simply put from our perspective, middle eastern muslims dont want to assimilate, want to bring and institute their backward and vile cultural values, and expect everyone else to just cowtow to them. My parents and aunts/uncles have more harsh/islamphobic words for how they grew up, as we’re sikhs and they had to live through multiple wars, but im just trying to paint it in a more clear view, with hard facts of why no one wants middle easteners in europe and US anymore
48:46 and here you can see how he resorts to dishonesty when confronted with facts. The question Tommy originally asked wasn’t „what’s fascist about ukraine“ he asked the chatter „what professors are you listening to? Send me a name and I’ll look at him on stream.“ This was in response to the chatter first writing in chat at 43:05 : „(paraphrasing) you shouldn’t just listen to what western news tells you but listen to (American) professors, nato is being the aggressor putting weapons on their borders, admitting members they said they never would in treaties etc.“ Tommy then prompts this chatter to name these professors and send him something to look at on stream (43:45), which he does (45:20) until the Professor makes a statement which takes the wind out of his entire, poorly constructed, argument. At 48:20 he starts talking about the Monroe-Doctrine which states that the entire Western Hemisphere is the backyard of the US empire, and illustrates how the Cuban missile crisis, where the Soviet Union stationed nuclear missiles on Cuba in response to NATO placing missiles in Europe, almost ended in global nuclear winter. Simultaneously when the US has active military bases with missile launch system capabilities in countries bordering Russia like Turkey or former Warsaw Pact members and tried to do the same in Ukraine the US is outraged at Russians reaction. This is exactly what the chatter mentioned in his original message, but Tommy suddenly lies and claims he asked him about „fascism in Ukraine“ and this is „the second time you’ve send me something unrelated.“ This allows him to completely ignore any argument made and continue on like nothing happened. He closes the video, calls the chatter stupid, equates him with Holocaust deniers and then says he destroyed himself. Either this showcases his complete idiocy and he really just isn’t capable of remembering things that happened 5 minutes ago, or he is a liar who has no consistency in his poorly informed opinions and just likes to hear his own voice talk.
@@the_bear2_072 considering how average reading comprehension of 50% of Americans is worse than that of a 6th grader I can understand how long texts can be scary for you
@@the_bear2_072 how can you know what I wrote was propaganda if it was too long & you didn’t read? At least try and be consistent with your insults, it’s pitiful
I'm expecting turkey will probably try to bargain some stuff from NATO in order to get them to vote for sweden to join. Some rights over the bosporus comes to mind. Or maybe not, i guess we'll see what happens
@@baneofbanes They do not. As of the Montreux convention Turkey must give civilian shipping free passage through the Bosporus (at least at peace time) which is something they’re not happy about because they could be making a lot of money from all the shipping traffic that flows into the Black Sea through it.
I was awake when it started got out of the shower to check the news before bed and boom 8 minutes ago Ukraine got invaded. Then stayed up all night watching a live stream of kyiv
Don't make the mistake of blaming everything on the putler. While he's responsible for all of this, he's not the one killing, looting, raping. Everyone involved and everyone supporting them is at fault. Not all Russia is at fault but definitely, the whole ruzzia is.
Words from a german streamer i watch often, about being bros with Poles (forget the politics, think just about common people) is actually warming my heart, imagine if someone would think 80 years ago, that we will be in such terms.
Well (east) Germany and Poland were both under the Soviet jackboot, shared suffering brings people together, no?
most of poland today is germany, most of prussia territory was given to poland after ww2, but i know many germans who sees poles as untrustworthy, the grief is still there.
Nothing like a big nemesis to bring all squabbling powers together (Russia)
@@felipewerner6670 most of poles would've preferred territories before ww2 but we had no say in this matter, Stalin took eastern territories and "gave" us western ones, it would be foolish to have such populace with small country, if we were to reject western ones.
@@AnonD38 yeah but it was not a friendly thing, just a reality, as well as "alliance" with soviets where they were hated
I remember waking up for skiing checking my phone and just seeing Ukraine invaded everywhere
I was playing CK2 lol
Exactly the same for me
I woke up because my best friend who's a Ukrainian, called me in the morning. I had told her the week before to already go to the border as I felt like it would happen. Now she is safe here.🙏
I was playing war thunder at 2am and had cnn on the background while the russians started doing the first artillery barrage
I remember that it had already been predicted a few hours earlier and it became known that it had started when Russian soldiers had seized a border checkpoint in Crimea.
Hi from Ukraine. Please, don’t get used to war. We need to end this as soon as possible👊🏼
europe supports ukrain and it wont stop until you win and rebuild your country to its glory
@@PurpleCaveManYT ❤️
I don't know what it means to get used to war. If you mean the childish bullshit with people wanting to shoot guns at people, and play soldier, then yeah that is something we don't want. If you mean get used to it as a thing which we shouldn't prepare for and expect? Then no. Because it's inevitable, unavoidable in some form or another, and a part of human nature. And trying to be pacifist is childish. But I don't think that's your position, but I know that's the origins of pacifism, is people listening to good arguments against war, and taking them to the extreme.
In all seriousness my man, I hope that Ukraine is liberated from Russia, and that you all can celebrate by the end with a free and united Ukraine. Including the Donbass, and Crimean regions. Love and support from America.
Slava Ukraine. You will win the war, hopefully soon, and the West will help to rebuild Ukraine better than it was before ♥️🇺🇦
@@I_like_big_bombs I totally agree with you. Actually, for me it is one of the most interesting topics to talk about as I study international security. In my opinion, pacifism is a utopia. Like anarchy. War as a phenomenon can end only when the very essence of man changes, but evolution takes countless millions of years.
By “don’t get used to it” I meant that people get over the initial shock and start to treat war as status quo. That’s also in our nature. We (Ukrainians) made the same mistake after 2014 as a matter of fact. Many people decided it’s easier to ignore the fact our boys die in the frontlines, but we’ve been at war for 8 years. I talk not about our politicians (although I have many questions for them as well), but about people who got on with their lives as if nothing happened and didn’t draw any conclusions. Thankfully, most of the those I know are responsible and do their best to help in every way possible. EU decided to ignore this as well (it’s not an accusation, I understand that their priority is to make gas for their people cheaper). But our partners got used to the fact that russia annexed Crimea pretty quickly. Also not an accusation, I understand they have their problems to deal with, but it hurts. I was born in Crimea myself. I still have relatives there. Haven’t seen them since then.
But we need the support of international community because it is one of our main strengths.
For me it is serious. I live 35 km from front line. Both my parents are in the armed forces, my boyfriend as well. I am kinda a girl 20 years of age so I decided I will be more useful in humanitarian headquarters. The kids I see every day.. it’s just painful, they are so devastated, left without their parents. Nobody deserves it. We need to do our utmost to end it. I know we will win, the question is only how many lives it’s going to take. And thank you for supporting us
29:20 “There’s no more Nazis in Germany.. Mostly” had me dying lmaooooo
There are like 147 nazis in germany left
Every country has Neo-Nazi's, I'd say russia has more then Ukraine for example.
Germany still has veterans from WW2 alive, yes.
the animation looks so fucking good on the map
i was awake when it started. First the report of increased fighting, bombing. Then came the declaration from Putin, and i watched it live, followed by border conflicts minutes after. It seemed so unreal..
in a way it still is
The day this started I panicked HARD I thought in only a few hours I would look outside and see a nuke... I was crying, I tooked my dogs upstairs to my room and waited... nothing happened I calmed down and learned more about the war and got myself educated. I talked myself into being calm saying that nobody is that MAD to launch a nuke.
@TAWOG Overdramatic? Dude, i have family in Ukraine, and war in europe seemed unreal.
0:00 so basiclly trigger warning for grisha
Grisha will do anything to earn a pound of grain
And Tommy is a western indoctrinated beta
Nooo dont tell me grisha supported this
@@zurabsiradze7822 right now since its pride month hes too busy hating gay people but before he was basically a russian propaganda bot
Thank you from Ukraine for watching this and sharing this with your audience. And I must say your commentary is interesting and opinionated in comparison to other boring and almost silent reactions to the same video. Good job. Thank you for spreading the word. And good luck to you in your projects.
49:20 The worst thing about this video is that, they don't ask the question "Why do every russian neighbour want to join EU and Nato? What are they afraid of?" There might actually be real reason for them to be suspicious of russia.
The reason every russian neighbour wants to join EU and NATO is because they are scared of invasion from russia, who has shown for decades to love invading its neighbours for no real reason. it is not that complicated
Or the west wants to control everything and then blames russia for not being part of that?
Especially why they keep doing it over and over after Russia fought back Georgia in South Osetia. They think that Russia will not protect their borders from NATO or what?
39:00 It's the same as the german casus belli against Poland: "in Danzig, poles are supressing germans, so we have to protect them"
The reason cited by Germany for invading Poland was a reported attack of polish troops on German Radiobuilding Gleiwitz, which was a false flag attack commited by SS troops.
You compare this with the 15.000 people killed by ukranian army shelling civilian areas including +100 children deaths over the course of 8 years in Donbas since 2014? Pretty poor history knowledge you got there white boy
and both were true
@@sb17899 Yes, but not a Casus Belli for war
@@siegechamp2295 It absolutely is and thousands of examples in History this has lead to war
@@FriedrichBarb the word putin used was genocide, which please provide evidence for, im all for it.
Man this guy is spitting facts. He does not miss.
Your truth my truth
I was playing Squad that first day of the war. The dudes just keep voice chatting about Ukraine so I searched Google, and my first thought was "holy molly they did it"
yes, it was a shocking thing to see
It's time for Europe to unite and get its autonomy back. We are depending on Russia for energy, we are depending on the US for any military development, we are depending on China for our industry. We have to regain our independence. We must not allow anyone to sabotage this, we must look into our own mistakes and fix them. We are not treated only by Putin or Erdogan, who both want to expand (look at what is happening in Cyprus, Putin is basically doing what mr Erdogan is trying to do), we are also threatened internally. We, as Europe, have spent so much time focusing on Germany for any Far right ideologies that we have forgotten that mr Moustache Man was in fact Austrian. Look at France where Madame Lepain almost won the elections, look at Hungary, Poland, Austria, Greece and yes even Ukraine. We have to answer to our mistakes and win our future back this is the only way.
@crassgop You already get my friend, not just complaints, you get direct orders.
Mustache man fought for the Germans in ww1 and not for the Austrians. Mustache man wanted a greater GERMAN empire, not Austrian. Mustache man married a German woman, not Austrian. Mustache man was German, end of story
@@dalibornovakovic93 you don't get the point. Our focus on Germany for this types of ideologies has allowed them to spread in other countries of Europe, and this our fault
@@momosthegreen No, I was correcting your error on your previous comment. This had nothing to do with ideological thinking. Simple as that.
It is because after world war 2 Europe was on a steep decline. They distanced themselves from nazis so much that they basically all became losers with poor economies, anti right liberals that want to being more Muslims in to make Torheit country less stable so that it depends more and more on foreign influence because their country is a shithole and everybody is leaving so the population is on the decline. Germany was true best country in Europe until the war. Then Russia ruined all of Eastern Europe because the idiots in the west funded the communists, which was definitely a huge mistake
im from kyiv but i lived in nova kahovka for a long time when they captured my grandparents were still there it was horrible, but now few weeks ago they finally made it out but still with a big accident that had them almost be killed
Like the king of Belgium said during ww1:
"A country that fights, does not die."
That isn't even remotely true though.
oh? How so? 🤔
@@jamesmccomb9525 Yeah. How so?
An hour of TommyKay being Based as fuck
I agree that we should cooperate more in the EU. The ultimate goal is reorganizing it into recreation of the greatest state in history, as a Rzeczpospolita Dwudziestu Siedmiu Narodów. Name can be easily changed reflecting integration of other nations into this empire.
Least nationalist polish person
Is this man talking about intermarium?
@@EddieBurke auahauabajauahahahah
@@lol_histicall4289 Intermarium (Międzymorze, really easy to spell) is rather political complex of alliances. RDSN (Commonwealth of Twenty-Seven Nations) would be federalized state.
Also every country in EU would get then their own Husars units.
To be honest nasionalism in context of what is happening is quite a dumb idea for long run, like yeah cool, you win the war but know every piece of land have been bomb either by nuclear or conventional bomb everything have been destroyed and having a mental breakdown imagining the world before the war, if we just unite then all this bullshit wouldn't happen, and perhaps we alredy got a colony in moon and sending people to mars
The problem with people today, especially in the west is people not feeling empathy towards people they cannot physically see. As an American, I always hear people saying the war is not our problem because it doesn't involve "Americans" or it's far away. They'd rather compare the Ukrainian war to high gas prices or baby food shortages, I find it incredibly sad that people would rather save already well-off Americans 20$ than send aid to Ukraine and save "foreign" lives. Just because someone wasn't born in our country we don't feel as much empathy towards them, at least comparatively to the empathy we feel towards our own local people, I personally believe it's because humans have a hard time visualizing things on a large scale and can't comprehend something they've never personally seen with their own eyes. Try breaking this habit and place yourself in the shoes of others, not just in the Ukraine war, but also in things like politics, see the world from every perspective!
No, that's not it. A lot of people just don't care if strangers die, and both you and me are ultimately the same in that regard. It sucks if you hear someone on your street died, but you're not going to attend the funeral are you? It's the same thing just on a bigger scale.
If you want to force people into action, you have to relate the deaths of strangers to something that overlaps with their interests.
As an American I have to say I am one of “those people” it’s not that I am a barbarian or hate Ukrainians, but in my opinion a stable USA with less inflation and a stronger economy is more important then the fate of Ukraine, yes this is influenced by my personal wants, but I also hold that it is better for the world as a whole to have a stable US, the fallout of inflation (from Ukraine but also other failed US policy) will be hitting us all sooner than later.
@@johngalt5166 Sorry for basically replying to a comment you don't even remember you've left. But...
As a Ukrainian I think it's important to understand that this invasion isn't just about fate of Ukraine as a state, your economy and prices in your store. If we were to fail, it both gives a signal that nuclear threats work better than any international law (that otherwise would call in peacekeepers) AND that Russia can continue with their imperialism, maybe even threatening NATO nations. Well, that's on top of Ukrainian nation being suppressed and forcefully culturally assimilated into Russia, but I guess that's the part you don't care about.
Something like Moldova 100% would get attacked after Ukraine. Another war in Europe would start from the very same threat - imperialistic Russia. Invading Baltic countries by cutting off their land supply chains through Belarus and Kaliningrad oblast, surprisingly, has more chances of happening then some might think in case of Russia succeeding here. After all, if international laws didn't work, if UN didn't work, Budapest memorandum didn't work, how can anyone be certain that NATO will?
It might start a race for obtaining nuclear weapons asap, as no other organization can guarantee integrity of your national border and independence.
So I advise you think of that as an investment in peace of the whole world and economic stability later on. If not dealt with now, will have to deal with it later, possibly on a larger scale. Crimea, "DPR" and "LPR" were merely part 1 of the invasion in 2014. And nobody responded strong enough, including Ukraine, as we were weakened. But if you look at a larger picture you can see Georgian invasion in 2008. Russia as of now is a dangerous state that threatens every neighbor with invasions and genocide, be that cultural or literal. As for foreign counties outside their immediate reach they use nukes as a threat, lol. And I don't think that's a behavior that should be rewarded with more territorial gain.
It's like Putin is a HoI4 player post NSB dlc, he have no idea how supply works
Why don’t they just build more supply hubs duh 🙄
Nah it’s more like he only put 20 dictions onto Poland
A NEW focus tree for modern Germany "Re-Arm Germany"
Tomykay is like a 80 year old boomer talking about shit, but instead of being uneducated he actually spits out interesting and reasonable things.
there are a lot of educated 80yos wdym?
The stereotypical boomers, like tommys father
the only thing a boomer understand is how to parasite in the financial system to avoid work and production.
It depends, some times he is just as ignorant those boomers and refuses to accept that.
such as?
Words you are saying are really true. I never thought a Hoi youtuber can see so clearly.
Pretty based mountain man on your pfp dude
Are you a Chechen?
@@ibroplatin4915 I am not chechen, but i was born and lived in Chechnya till i turned 12. After that we moved to Germany, because there is nothing to do in Chechnya. Kadyrov is running everything there, if you dont have connections you cant survive. If Djohar Dudaev was alive and in charge, Chechnya would be a normal country. My father wasn't even a chechen but he fought together with this man.
my grandma just came back from Ukraine. she was volunteering as a doctor there. she was near izium
1:05:24 - omfg this timing, lmao
Don’t forget to shout out the foreign legion and Georgian legion.
Azov is multinational multilanguage and multireligios batalion ) there is mariupol's greeks, ukrainians, russians, belarus, azerbaycani, moldovians etc etc
Multicultural ethnic nationalists
@@polkka7797 more just a bunch of people who hate the Russian federation.
@@polkka7797 *nationalist-socialists
@@darkknight6432 international socialists it - communists
@@polkka7797 Do you even know what nationalist mean?
0:44 facts. Fully agree with you. Thank you for the support 🙏🤝✊
37:33 BIG TOMMYKAY FOR THE WIN
ohhhhhhhhhhhhh Kings and Generals that channel is for history rly 10/10
I'm Ukrainian and you say really really important things, interested to hear... Especially about some lezy eastern democrats.
Its our Vietnam with huge, but not twisty, aggressive, but stupidly enemy. And of course Huge Thanks everybody and everyone fore support 👍
What would the world be like without nukes? A hole lot more unstable, I mean think about it, how many conflicts have been avoided because of nuclear weapons? The cold war wouldn't have been cold, it would have been a third world war and the only reason it didn't is because of nuclear weapons.
True!
The "Long Peace" is a thing for a reason.
I would say the presence of nukes is high risk high reward. It makes things much less likely to kick off but if they do it's so much worse.
Wonder how well this viewpoint will age. Isn't it kind of only a matter of time until a conflict involving nukes finally does kick-off? I hope I'm wrong, I mean, we have manged almost a century without such a conflict, right?
there would have been more direct superpower wars
my sister supports russia and sees their action as justified and calls me an idiot nazi for supporting ukraine we live in the netherlands btw and here there aare huge amounts of ppl that believe that nato mercenarys commited those warcrimes to frame russia.......smh
How are the Dutch that influenced by Russia?
@@xptaco2298 idk Just public opinion and such, but there are Just alot of ppl that thing of stupid conspiracies and believe Them to be true
@@killianvanrotterdam9111 Nazis in ukraine is not a surprise since the urss raped ukraine multiple times. But its a joke, because nazis hated slavs and want them as slaves. Hittler would bake a pie of slav flesh anytime.
Wow, that's crazy. Does your sister know that domestic abuse is legal in Russia and that if she had a husband he has every right to kill her there?
@@bebos1262 legal my ass, the the moment she gets a bruise, she can get medical inspection proof and sue his ass
Tommy I love what you say around 30:55 same for me! I would directly sign up to defend our freedom and Germany
The Cold War with the Soviet Union never ended. The USSR just lost territory and changed its name. The Cold War is still ongoing. And Ukraine is victim of more Russian aggression.
That is not true Dommy. Before and during WW1 and WW2 the people had the same mentality; ignoring what they can ignore. Do you know why Dommy? Because everyone is a bitter cynic, like we where a 100 years ago. No; like we have always been! Look at the world. The amount of ignoring is equal to the amount of suffer. Juicers call it coping :)
We're so dependent on russian gas because we like to just not have cheap nuclear power thats just the stupidest thing Nuclear power is way greener than gas or coal
its funny how people talk like Mearsheimer is the one and be all in academia. He is a professor in one sub-school of a school of thought in the field of International Relations Theory.
Russia: Let's fight fake genocide by committing real genocide.
Putin: Yeah, and this special military operation will only be 3 days. Trust me bro.
War lasts more than a year.
Idiots: I trust Vladdy Putz with all my black heart and empty mind.
25:08 NATO would absolutely demolish Russia.
My dude, everyone will loose, it's going to go nuclear
if it wasn't for a nukes, yes
Like my friend said: If you are trying to liberate a country (Russia “liberating” Ukraine), you don’t kill civilians purposely.
Man, really thank's for your oppinion. See people who gives their support to Ukraine is really important to us.
P. S. A bit of my history, if interesting, just in a short... I'm from Kiev i wanted to go, to army when all of this shit started (despite the serious problems with my eyes, i'm a pretty cool engenier and have a bacalour degree in computer sience and electronics, so think i would be rather usefull in the army) but my father told me: "I'll go instead of you. You don't have kids, so till you make a baby with some pretty girl, i don't wonna see you risking your life". He know what he had said... I'm rather hot-headed. I went thru the revolution in 2014 and had an injure from a granade...
So now, my father as a member of Ukraine military forces fights for our, Ukrainan people.
how is your father doing?
@@coraldestroyer4202 In summer 2023 he was demobilised from army cause of injure. 2 operations and 3 monthes of reabilitation now all is fine with him. Thanks for ask. About the sad 3 weeks ago was a funeral of my brother. He was killed near Kherson. He was a member of Ukrainan marine forces.
@@vladkonyh980 Hope your father is doing better. i am very sorry for your loss. your brother is a hero, not just for ukraine but for all of europe. i am very thankfull for the brave people of ukraine, who are fighting against tyranny. my older brother joined the international legion last year also, he is near orikhiv at the moment i think.
@@coraldestroyer4202 Thank you man. Hope each one who wait's for a family member home , would see them alive and healthy .
46:08 "encourage Russia to conquer Ukraine" "Putin is too smart to do that" makes sense
when I woke up from the explosions at 5 in the morning, I did not believe that it had begun, but I immediately believed in Ukraine from the first second
bs
You still believe?
@@guccipucci3941 yes.. severodonetsk is back in Ukrainian hands
@@cossack7679 for how long?
@@sb17899 still is. It's been more than 3 months (assault started on 3rd march) of the second world millitary trying to take 100k city LOL. In few weeks they will prob take it, but it will prob take another month to take Lysychansk. And like 3-4 months to take Slovyansk, Kramatorsk (they together are bigger than Mariupol, they will not be encircled, the forces will be always getting resupplied and reinforced, if a mariupol took 3 months, this thing can take half a year straight up)
Our troops have sisu irl
Thank you Tommy!!!
37:00 "Well you see he's fighting Putin and Putin says he's fighting Nazis so therefore he has to be a fascist!"
The first words were just for me😂😂
I thought of September1913 by W.B. Yeats when tommy mentioned the people worrying about the price of petrol
What need you, being come to sense,
But fumble in a greasy till
And add the halfpence to the pence
And prayer to shivering prayer, until
You have dried the marrow from the bone;
For men were born to pray and save:
Romantic Ireland’s dead and gone,
It’s with O’Leary in the grave.
1:04:00 de-nazifying the produce isle
Most ambitious crossover ever. Kings & Generals channel is the best
Thank you for support
Tommy u should react to Kings and Generals Battle of Donbass they just released it yesterday
56:27 more like Nicholas II move just 2 years before he got ousted.
they/them army
Imagine someone wants to take over your house, but they only get a few rooms, and you say you won.
Macron became the modern day Neville Chamberlain. LMAO.
29:18 as polish i agree
cant wait to see more vids of tommykay saying panzer hurra! again
when a country and its people want to join this or that union, they have every right to do so, it is logical only for some reason for the residents of Crimea who wanted to join Russia, a just europe forbade them to do so, democracy is such a democracy it works only when you need it
the crimean referedum was a rigged vote which was essentially held at gunpoint.
If you belive that vote was legit no one can help you m8
@@thelobbyofhobbies3244 bs
Prior to the invasion of Ukraine there was very little NATO heavy military equipment in Eastern Europe as to not provoke Russia
yes, but putin has its way to make thing up...he had the bad popularity and he saw war as a way to stay on power
26:34 too much defensive stats on these Ukrainians 🤣🤣😭😭
hahahahah
When the video is 33 mins long but the tommy reaction is 1 hour
:SadTroll:
Bro people don't realize that Russia is just Italy, I am more worried about "Germany" AKA China, and their plans. (from a WW2 point of view)
we will see, Xi Jinping is getting older, he will start something that people will remember him...like every dictator
I think north korea would be italy,and russia is japan see how ukraine stalemated?just like china in ww2
China is a paper tiger.
@@mannotfromeurope3100 I agree there
The Chinese military is way worse than Russia's. China's military is built from russian equipment and stolen knock off international equipment. They don't even have a joint command structure and are mostly conscripts. Nothing to be concerned about.
Thank you for support Tommy, we're all holding on to defeat this biggest World evil!
No support for terrorists.
Слава Україні! 🇺🇦
@@dylanvogler2165 🤢
@@Proud2bGreek1 I see, we have a supporter of facism here.
Does Russia support child puberty blockers?
I aint simpin but I've always loved Ukraine but it's truly sad what's happening and wish this war will end already with best interest for Ukrainian people not their Politian's.
9:55 so trained they record themselves in military bases and schools and forget to delete the meta data containing their coordinates (yes modern cameras and phones record the coordinates and time of recording a video, thats how mcaffee got found out by the feds) resulting in balistic and cruise missiles being launched directly at their head.
the russians already knew where that garrison was before the war they built it lmao
2 to 4k ukrainian losses? cmon dude no way
В одном только Мариуполе находилось около 17.000 бойцов ВСУ и нац-батов. Эти 2-4 тысячи - это, наверное, только разорванные на части российской артиллерией.🤣
@@border4851 BRO LITERALLY 😂 MARIUPOL HAD 17K TROOPS AND SOMEHOW ONLY LIKE 3K SURRENDERED WHERE DID THE 14K OTHER GO???? VANISH INTO THIN AIR?
@@donteatmycheeze4901, died?🧐 The encirclement was completed on the 7th or the 8th of March, if I’m not mistaken.
@@border4851 i know i hate those people that rally on Ukrainian media
"Noo!! Ukraine has only 4.000 losses"
Man like what that doesn't even make sense
@@donteatmycheeze4901, yeh, that’s a just a real bullshit.
Tommyk in parallel world: Heil Putin
Suggestion/critique: You should've zoomed in Ufaaka's comments when Tommy was talking to him
31:00
Based
You just speak the truth bro
Idk if Tommy will see this. But the difference between the middle east and Ukrainian refugees is relation and culture difference. Ukrainians as a culture are much closer to europe as a whole. Middle easterners simply put have a vastly different culture set. They have no respect for women, no respect for freedom of religion, expression and secularity too. A key example were the muslim killings in France. They were in France, yet want the French to live by their cultural laws of no caricatures of the “holy” Muhammad. My parents came from india, and they assimilated really well here in the US, to the point that in my personal family, im the white washed one, which for us meant that out of all my cousins, i was the most “americanized” in a way. Simply put from our perspective, middle eastern muslims dont want to assimilate, want to bring and institute their backward and vile cultural values, and expect everyone else to just cowtow to them. My parents and aunts/uncles have more harsh/islamphobic words for how they grew up, as we’re sikhs and they had to live through multiple wars, but im just trying to paint it in a more clear view, with hard facts of why no one wants middle easteners in europe and US anymore
1:02:33 we have already done that. our troops destroyed the GRU special forces at the border post in the Bryansk region
48:46 and here you can see how he resorts to dishonesty when confronted with facts.
The question Tommy originally asked wasn’t „what’s fascist about ukraine“ he asked the chatter „what professors are you listening to? Send me a name and I’ll look at him on stream.“ This was in response to the chatter first writing in chat at 43:05 : „(paraphrasing) you shouldn’t just listen to what western news tells you but listen to (American) professors, nato is being the aggressor putting weapons on their borders, admitting members they said they never would in treaties etc.“
Tommy then prompts this chatter to name these professors and send him something to look at on stream (43:45), which he does (45:20) until the Professor makes a statement which takes the wind out of his entire, poorly constructed, argument.
At 48:20 he starts talking about the Monroe-Doctrine which states that the entire Western Hemisphere is the backyard of the US empire, and illustrates how the Cuban missile crisis, where the Soviet Union stationed nuclear missiles on Cuba in response to NATO placing missiles in Europe, almost ended in global nuclear winter. Simultaneously when the US has active military bases with missile launch system capabilities in countries bordering Russia like Turkey or former Warsaw Pact members and tried to do the same in Ukraine the US is outraged at Russians reaction.
This is exactly what the chatter mentioned in his original message, but Tommy suddenly lies and claims he asked him about „fascism in Ukraine“ and this is „the second time you’ve send me something unrelated.“
This allows him to completely ignore any argument made and continue on like nothing happened. He closes the video, calls the chatter stupid, equates him with Holocaust deniers and then says he destroyed himself.
Either this showcases his complete idiocy and he really just isn’t capable of remembering things that happened 5 minutes ago, or he is a liar who has no consistency in his poorly informed opinions and just likes to hear his own voice talk.
Too long didn't read don't care
@@the_bear2_072 considering how average reading comprehension of 50% of Americans is worse than that of a 6th grader I can understand how long texts can be scary for you
@@guccipucci3941 u mad cus no one cares about your propaganda? Good!
Also 35:28 is how the whole argument started making your big text of autism irrelevant and wrong
@@the_bear2_072 how can you know what I wrote was propaganda if it was too long & you didn’t read? At least try and be consistent with your insults, it’s pitiful
Дякую ) За підтримку ))
Good thing Putin is losing, those Russian troops wouldn't stand a chance against Tommy the unit.
Ukraine right now reminds me of Crete during the nazi invasion of Greece. If you don't know what happened you should google that.
America stands with Georgia
I'm expecting turkey will probably try to bargain some stuff from NATO in order to get them to vote for sweden to join. Some rights over the bosporus comes to mind. Or maybe not, i guess we'll see what happens
Most of turkey's complaints are around weapon sanctions sweden and Finland have on turkey as well as their support for Kurdish groups like the PKK.
Turkey already has total rights over the Bosphorus.
They’ll probably see about getting back into the F35 program.
@@baneofbanes They do not. As of the Montreux convention Turkey must give civilian shipping free passage through the Bosporus (at least at peace time) which is something they’re not happy about because they could be making a lot of money from all the shipping traffic that flows into the Black Sea through it.
ти неймовірний
Slava Ukraini
you mean sieg heil?
I hope the West, Ukraine and Russia destroys themselves. Love from Egypt.
@@taa-p8s cope russian nationalist
SLAVA UKRAINI!
@@taa-p8s cringelord
HELLO FROM UKRAINE!!!
Honestly, I’m from turkey and Erdogan is really NOT representing Turkey well, we need another Ataturk
all countries media are like : our military is a joke ... got to take it with a bit of salt
What countries other than Germany though?
@@KNNY_-sp6kq Netherlands / Belgium i know for sure
@@mikedebest2385 lol yes. the military in my country didn't have enough munitions for exercises at one point so yeah lmao.(Dutch army).
@@dylanvogler2165 i know 'pang pang
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This is like if the Soviets invaded the US through Cuba and got stalled out around Palm Beach 💀
I like your personality
Tommy for German Chancellor
Tommy. You should react to the project Ukraine videos most history channels (including K&G) have done.
Heh in my country war is going for 70 years and no one gives a fuck
Where do you live? I can't think of any nation that has had wars for 70 years
@@danilapolesciuk4316prop palestina or some crap
30:25 i'll remember that. Ur fellow Pole.
Ukraine's winning bc they increased their war support😆
I was awake when it started got out of the shower to check the news before bed and boom 8 minutes ago Ukraine got invaded. Then stayed up all night watching a live stream of kyiv
Same
if no nukes would be larger militaries to compensate
I watched this war start live
Same
Well it is hard to worry about them if we cant support our family’s here
28:45 🤣🤣
Don't make the mistake of blaming everything on the putler. While he's responsible for all of this, he's not the one killing, looting, raping.
Everyone involved and everyone supporting them is at fault.
Not all Russia is at fault but definitely, the whole ruzzia is.
Дивлюся тебе з Донецка )
So amazing to see the Ukrainians fight off against a country that was considered a massive threat to western countries. Go Ukraine!
Thank's man