John Mearsheimer: Is China the Real Winner of Ukraine War? | Endgame

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  • @sun4nicolya
    @sun4nicolya Рік тому +349

    This is probably the best interview with Prof. Mearsheimer. And a great respect to the host for very thoughtful questions. I am Russian, but I have been listening to Prof. Mearsheimer with great interest for a long time. He is one of the best, if not the best, political theorist.

    • @geezz99
      @geezz99 Рік тому

      you should listen to some of his previous interviews .. they seem to keep changing narrative to suit newer current predictions , and curiously pessimistic toward Ukraine , accusatory , misplaced blame for the US When Russia STARTED the war , He is very OVERLY sympathetic toward Putin's Russia ??

    • @АлександрХодовец-э3г
      @АлександрХодовец-э3г Рік тому +19

      Right. A very good analysis of the current situation. Hopefully the politicians on both sides will be more realistic and reasonable.

    • @sousardanilo
      @sousardanilo Рік тому +37

      @@АлександрХодовец-э3г I'm Brazilian and I study Geopolitics. Mearsheimer is one of the most important intellectuals in US today. He and Henry Kissinger have a realistic view of Russia. They dont enemies of Russia like neocons staff of Democratic Party. Both, Mearsheimer and Kissinger defend "balance of power" with Russia. And this is the most important thing to do today, not put NATO alliance on the Russia's borders.

    • @АлександрХодовец-э3г
      @АлександрХодовец-э3г Рік тому +9

      @@sousardanilo We are glad that your President did not vote for sanctions against Russia. Common sense! Well done!

    • @littlehandsgivescovfefe4837
      @littlehandsgivescovfefe4837 Рік тому +4

      Agree. This and NonZero as well.

  • @yingtaoli4966
    @yingtaoli4966 Рік тому +1555

    作为一个中国人,我尊重约翰·米尔斯海默及其现实主义理论,但我并不认同。
    中国不会在军事上制定打败美国的战略,因为美国无法被打败(美国拥有巨量的核武器)。从古至今,所有的帝国都不是被外部敌人打败的,都是由于帝国内部的腐朽崩溃的。中国的策略是继续强大自己,立于不败之地,然后坐等美国犯错然后崩溃。
    中国不必掠夺就能富裕强大,而美国必须靠掠夺才能维持霸权,得道多助失道寡助,美国霸权最终会自我毁灭。

    • @chenqin415
      @chenqin415 Рік тому +80

      很可惜,很多中国人并不认可你的观点。所谓身怀利器,杀心自起。随着中国的强大,我在很多评论里看到中国人恨不得和美国来一场世界大战,争取领导世界的权利,争取掠夺世界的权利。这些中国人也同时认为既然中国强大了,各种利益自然而然应该多分给中国一杯羹。如果美国霸权旁落,中国取而代之,在利益的驱使下,中国肯定会变成另一个美国。

    • @smling11
      @smling11 Рік тому

      ​@@chenqin415 不认同你的观点。有刀就要杀人。谁把金钱和精力来造长城来防而不花在把造事者杀光?

    • @yingtaoli4966
      @yingtaoli4966 Рік тому +242

      @@chenqin415 被欺负不反击激发的民族情绪是一种正常现象,很多热血青年都会有这种反应,他们是正常社会的一部分。中国掌权者是更理性的那一部分人,不必过于担心,反而美国的反华情绪一直在决策层蔓延,这次是危险所在。

    • @chenqin415
      @chenqin415 Рік тому +42

      ​@@yingtaoli4966 同意中国领导人很理智。不过也不要过高估计他们的掌控力。如果中国如我希望的一直平稳发展还好,否则一旦出现债务危机还是房地产泡沫,为了转移内部矛盾,事情就难以预测了。

    • @leeway777
      @leeway777 Рік тому +26

      非常认同你的观点. 这正是我想说的.

  • @zlatkopodrug9437
    @zlatkopodrug9437 Рік тому +54

    Thank you interviewer for never cutting and interrupting. Prof. Mearsheimer.

  • @SaleemBaluch1
    @SaleemBaluch1 7 місяців тому +72

    In my opinion, it is the best interview of Professor John Mearsheimer available on UA-cam.

    • @yaphonghor4409
      @yaphonghor4409 6 місяців тому

      Professor has imperialism ideology in his blood, he does not think China should be given any opportunity to be another polar in this world! He thinks US should be the only superpower, dominating and plundering this world!!!

    • @nikofong2304
      @nikofong2304 5 місяців тому +3

      err....just one point, there is no Chinese lead order, only trade partner, China not interest in teach other country how to rule their country

    • @SerbanOprescu
      @SerbanOprescu 5 місяців тому +7

      I'm watching this in June '24. A year after this has been made. It is stunning how accurate Mr. Mersheimer's predictions have been.

    • @RainaGohrt
      @RainaGohrt 4 місяці тому +1

      19:26

    • @RainaGohrt
      @RainaGohrt 4 місяці тому +1

      😊

  • @Bulelengman
    @Bulelengman Рік тому +248

    Never in my life I would imagine a free accessible talks from John Mearsheimer. Terima kasih banyak Pak Gita..

    • @nathasyapramudita6312
      @nathasyapramudita6312 Рік тому +8

      banyak kok di UA-cam. Beliau suka diundang disuatu acara, dan seminarnya diupload.

    • @pisablavatsky-cb3dd
      @pisablavatsky-cb3dd Рік тому

      He is an angl0 regimes propagandist. He is one of the biggest liar. Big mouthed old man

    • @Rvu72
      @Rvu72 Рік тому

      Banyaaaakkk di yutub

    • @matiasazali7793
      @matiasazali7793 Рік тому +2

      Great power politics begin when it's citizen enjoy the high paying job. And able to make alliance country work based on this production. Military 🪖 cost money and tax, or cause of war, it is not Great power. Great power help to connect institute around the world.

    • @NyaiRoroKidal
      @NyaiRoroKidal Рік тому +2

      Amerika keliatan sangar cuman waktu ngancurin iraq padahal iraq hanya petani, anak-anak,dan ibu-ibu.
      Sekarang dapet musuh yang sesungguhnya, yaitu: RUSSIA+CHINA💪🦸😁

  • @manawa-2872
    @manawa-2872 Рік тому +199

    WOW... as an International Relations student... I am amazed with this podcast session. I mean. I've been following you on Instagram and UA-cam as well for more than 5 years and this is the most appealing talk I ever watch. Watching both of you makes me tremendously happy, because I can see and comprehend ideas and views from this Outstanding Scholar. Dankjewel Pak Gita.

    • @Time4Peace
      @Time4Peace Рік тому

      Mearsheimer is basically saying this: don't waste time fighting Russia. Fight China because China will be a bad hegemon. American hegemon is better.
      In reality, China will not be a hegemon even if it wants to. Because it will be a multipolar world, crowded with US, EU, and Japan together and new ones appearing like India, Brazil and Indonesia.
      Moreover, China wants to do investments and trade. Ot does not interfere with internal affairs of others. In trade and investments, everyone wins.
      US is all about power and control. It's not interested in developing other countries. It has 800 bases all over the world to coerce others, to assassinate, kidnap, sanction and invade on endless wars. It wants to protect USD as the world reserve currency in order to keep printing free USD for huge military expenditure.
      Mearsheimer is just a wily fox twisting logic for a war with China. He is a dangerous war monger who wants to force nations choose: you are either with us or against us.

    • @bellakrinkle9381
      @bellakrinkle9381 Рік тому +6

      Yes, I agree. This clarifies some major points, and brings a specific clarity that pulls Mearshimer's major theses together.

    • @saattlebrutaz
      @saattlebrutaz Рік тому +5

      As an Internatoinal Relations student, this is the worst channel you could follow.

    • @Time4Peace
      @Time4Peace Рік тому

      Jeffrey Sachs makes more sense. He advocates diplomacy and not war. Mearsheimer uses realism as a cover for US to dominate.

    • @manawa-2872
      @manawa-2872 Рік тому

      @@saattlebrutaz Praat als een kip zonder kop. Zo naunau...

  • @secozy
    @secozy Рік тому +311

    Kita diberi kuliah umum gratis materi tentang realisme. Sangat menarik dimana narasumber dan host saling diskusi dengan penguasaan materi yg rumit. Terima kasih pak gita. Podcast pak gita jadi chanel yg paling saya sukai.

    • @wowokgg7280
      @wowokgg7280 Рік тому +6

      Bener kata kakek John ini lebih waras daripada kakek tua Joe Abidin 🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭 mending kakek Jhon ini aja jadi plecident 🇺🇲 aja 🥱🥱🥱🥱🙊🙊🗿👍👍👍

    • @RH-zf3ki
      @RH-zf3ki Рік тому

      Joe abidin siapanya Joe Hart kk?

    • @PamanStalin
      @PamanStalin Рік тому +1

      jadi gini rasanya kuliah

    • @NyaiRoroKidal
      @NyaiRoroKidal Рік тому +9

      Amerika keliatan sangar cuman waktu ngancurin iraq padahal iraq hanya petani, anak-anak,dan ibu-ibu.
      Sekarang dapet musuh yang sesungguhnya, yaitu: RUSSIA+CHINA💪🦸😁

    • @jidat1403
      @jidat1403 Рік тому

      pantes aje loe GUOBLOG

  • @EliDahi
    @EliDahi 8 місяців тому +37

    Oh, what a great interview. The interviewer’s carefully chosen questions and his slaw and calm style in asking, and Mearsheimer’s famous style in answering clearly and very convincing, make the interview look like a master peace for teaching in journalist University.

    • @gwirjawan
      @gwirjawan  8 місяців тому +4

      Thank you for tuning in..

  • @onisuryaman408
    @onisuryaman408 Рік тому +18

    Terima kasih Pak Gita Wiryawan sudah membawa Prof. Mearsheimer ke publik Indonesia. Pemikiran beliau sangat penting bagi konstelasi geopolitik dunia ke depan, dan saya sangat berharap para politisi Indonesia bisa memahami posisi ini mengingat sekarang dunia sedang berada pada persimpangan jalan yang sangat krusial. Bagaimana Indonesia mengambil posisi akan sangat menentukan Indonesia ke depan. Dan kita tidak bisa duduk diam, karena tidak mengambil posisi juga adalah sebuah posisi.

    • @sutediheriyonoBaladMaUng
      @sutediheriyonoBaladMaUng Рік тому +1

      Betul, mengambil posisi aktif akan meningkatkan daya tawar, duduk diam hanya akan jadi FOLLOWER , walau tidak suka harus menjalankan.
      Dengan aktif, maka akan ada kebijakan yg dapat "dititipkan" utk kepentingan BANGSA dsn NKRI dan kita memahami semua kebijakan itu tanpa ada PRASANGKA BURUK.
      Iblis bermasalah sengan manusia dan TUHAN karena adanya PRASANGKA BURUK thd manusia.
      Kita jangan sampai jadi iblis tapi tetap jadi manusia DISAAT KEBIJAKAN itu dijalanksn.

  • @paulianas1782
    @paulianas1782 Рік тому +164

    So far ini podcast ttg geopolitik yg terbaik. Nara sumbernya sangat resourceful. Bahasa Inggrisnya jelas & to the point.
    Sy sampai merekomendasikan materi ini ke teman2 asing krn cukup sulit ketemu podcast berkualitas spt ini.

    • @onisuryaman408
      @onisuryaman408 Рік тому +10

      Sebenarnya kalau suka lihat channel2 luar, beliau sudah sangat banyak bicara. Satu lagi kalau mau diikuti: Prof. Kishonre Mahbubani dari Singapura. Analisis2 beliau juga sangat tajam melihat geopolitik dunia saat ini.

    • @davidconnors2293
      @davidconnors2293 Рік тому

      ​@@onisuryaman408
      Thank you for the update

    • @genelarson6849
      @genelarson6849 Рік тому

      This guy speaks much and says Little beyond criticizing this great country of ours. The Chinese are about to hit an economic wall. Say evergrande say country garden say bond default.. mearshiemer is a dull boy for a more concise and accurate assessment on geopolitical realities and demographics Google Peter zeihan a deep thinker Mearshiemer should take economics 101 hope he can get a good grade

    • @spudwesth
      @spudwesth 8 місяців тому

      Look at WW2 maps of Ukraine !

  • @tmderizal
    @tmderizal Рік тому +29

    A very enlightening discussion with top-notch guest speaker. Thank you Pak Gita for bringing us the "Luminaries" series, they are great!

  • @AuditorInvestor
    @AuditorInvestor 11 місяців тому +46

    Very good talk and patient interviewer - appreciate it.

  • @togatampubolon5948
    @togatampubolon5948 Рік тому +372

    John Mearsheimer and Jeffrey Sachs are like the oases in US think tank now, especially in foreign policy toward China and Rusia. Hats off to you pak Gita to present them to talk.

    • @lifeisneverthesame910
      @lifeisneverthesame910 Рік тому +10

      Mearsheimer dan Sachs itu banyak kesalahan tp nggak mau ngaku.
      Sachs gagal total memberantas kemiskinan di Afrika.
      Mearsheimer gagal memprediksi perihal perang Ukraina.

    • @wowokgg7280
      @wowokgg7280 Рік тому +2

      @@lifeisneverthesame910 udah AYO PERANG NUKLIR 🇷🇺🇨🇳🆚🇪🇺🇺🇲😏😏😏😏😏🤭🤭🤭🤭😱😱😱😱😱😱🙀🙀🙀🙀😏😏😏

    • @purgatory9851
      @purgatory9851 Рік тому +10

      ​@@wowokgg7280 insensitive and war-mongering statement 😔

    • @lifeisneverthesame910
      @lifeisneverthesame910 Рік тому +6

      @Robert Ong Sachs dengan sombongnya mengklaim kemiskinan itu mudah diatasi termasuk di Afrika. namun dia gagal total.

    • @lifeisneverthesame910
      @lifeisneverthesame910 Рік тому +3

      @Robert Ong Afrika bangkit karena China??????? 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤣🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

  • @kismetrahman5825
    @kismetrahman5825 Рік тому +68

    Proud to have Prof Mearsheimer interviewed with one most respect of Indonesian delegator.

  • @faizrizky9414
    @faizrizky9414 Рік тому +106

    This is really a video of extraordinary quality and loaded with knowledge! Thank you Mr. Gita Wirjawan for inviting The great Professor John Mearsheimer to provide his knowledge and views so that it becomes a very valuable lesson for all of us!

    • @faizrizky9414
      @faizrizky9414 Рік тому +1

      @W K Did i ever say that i need this video to know about the atrocities that The US and The West or even Russia and China have been doing all these years?

    • @faizrizky9414
      @faizrizky9414 Рік тому +4

      @W K I was just thanking Mr. Gita Wirjawan for inviting The Great Professor John Mearsheimer, Did you even read my comments and try to understand it before typing all that out lol?

    • @romanroman1850
      @romanroman1850 Рік тому

      liar and charlatan from the science whose predicaments all went nuts))) Ukraine is winning, russia sucks and this mad man seems that nothing alike happened)))

    • @spudwesth
      @spudwesth 8 місяців тому

      Look at WW2 maps of Ukraine !

    • @hunterornot
      @hunterornot Місяць тому

      If you take a closer look into the professor, you would find the so called realism is actually rules of jungle. If you get this, you will understand almost all of his "theories".

  • @jokepiebenga4709
    @jokepiebenga4709 3 місяці тому +12

    What a lesson in history from this Malaysian You Tuber! Thank you! ❤
    I am an 80 year old woman from the Netherlands and a long time already I'm ashamed for what my country and the West in general has done to the world and what misery they brought on people all over the world.
    We only can hope it's done now for the West.
    In the near future there will come a lot of destruction and a shift in our so called 'values' and that will only be for the better for all human kind! ❤❤❤

    • @harrykumoro4335
      @harrykumoro4335 3 місяці тому +3

      Gita Wiryawan was Indonesian 😓 not Malaysian. He was ex Indonesian minister in SBY president era 😓. He was not ordinary UA-camr

    • @vichitvideo6041
      @vichitvideo6041 2 місяці тому +2

      A conscientious European lady who deserves respects.

  • @andi-w6p
    @andi-w6p Рік тому +200

    Tidak ada channel youtube di Indonesia yang kualitas narasumber dan kualitas diskusinya berkelas seperti Pak Gita, yang selalu bisa mengeksplor pemikiran narasumber dengan baik. di sini kita bisa melihat bahwa sebagus apapun narasumber, kalau host nya tidak bisa mengimbangi dengan leading pertanyaan yang bernas juga, maka hasil diskusi tidak akan berkualitas. pak gita tahu kapan mendengarkan, kapan menanggapi dengan menchallenge dst. 1 jam lebih tidak terasa dan kayak masih kurang.

  • @simplemarryman5305
    @simplemarryman5305 Рік тому +54

    A rare quality content by Indonesian podcaster. Thank you Gita and John

    • @jaredwoodford8849
      @jaredwoodford8849 Рік тому +1

      Thursday 23-05-2023, I am sorry if my reply to your comments dose not coraspond, correspond I am only proved providing thee such with all others at this time that have commented in which thee have with thinging, thinking ye as I hope have some of the same interests as I do which are I think are the interests of all our people & hope the Earth. To support or find way they can in hope of ihai, that with not being able to contribue, contribute a comment comment, comment to the program as yours has done thanks!
      Jared S. Woodford 25-05-2023
      Wednesday 24=05-2023 Those of the West leaders & those that knew of it supporting them having done wrongs again & as coming to their climax to succeed as sadly the lacking and costly way they had to more peoples & any other way from the way they did it having made so clear they had in the wrong, That Russia at last responded to those of the West making War on them as part of doing what they are of, and can be an opportunity if we bring their defeat. With the leader that has lead the defense from the West. I know could lead the world to becoming of a better way than the most successful nations of all being of the West’s way till following their way we destroy the world of our creation until we can destroy Earth no more & going by the pace we are doing ourselves.
      Jared S. Woodford 25-05-2023

    • @spudwesth
      @spudwesth 8 місяців тому

      Look at WW2 maps of Ukraine.

  • @janezjonsa3165
    @janezjonsa3165 Рік тому +11

    What makes this video special, is not my beloved professor.
    Its the narrator, asking the right, and smart questions to profesor.
    Awesome, this one is a jewel.

    • @janstaes2172
      @janstaes2172 5 місяців тому

      idd lets hope the video stays on here. lots of his interviews are being erased. was looking ad something from him yesterday on another channel its no longer there.

  • @yetty4032
    @yetty4032 Рік тому +15

    ❤ great teacher lucky to have such a knowledge person .every time i listen gives me more clarity and learn more real political world
    Thank you sir

    • @valuggel8972
      @valuggel8972 8 місяців тому

      But limited
      About history he disregards that usa had to trade with china to keep it away from russia and nobody could foresee chinese economy oktoubling in 2000s
      About current affairs he disregards atleast chinese investment and influence rise in latin america and brasils rise as regional hegemon not fond of usa
      Well nobody is perfect😊

  • @balticdiver5650
    @balticdiver5650 Рік тому +109

    I´m from Germany and the medial perception and evaluation of such phenomena is of outrageous asymmetry. It is unbearable. Impressive talk, it's nice that there is still reason to be found in the exuberant propaganda. Great thanks to Prof Mearsheimer to give realism a hearing in this madness.

    • @andrewgibson6495
      @andrewgibson6495 Рік тому +7

      Except he is wrong about almost everything. Certainly he is an apologist for the Russians, but the world has moved on from such cold-war thinking, as you should know by the amount of support that is being given to Ukraine. Which, by the way, is protecting your way of life.

    • @retrocool
      @retrocool Рік тому +25

      @@andrewgibson6495 Ah, finally after reading dozens of your facile "he's wrong about everything" comments we finally learn: you just don't want to get rid of your precious "goodies and baddies" story. There is nothing about any amount of support given to either of the warring parties which disprove his thesis. Countries aligned with the US give tribute for the proxy, while the BRICS and non-aligned do not, just as you would expect if the Prof was right, which he patently is.

    • @Dashkova28
      @Dashkova28 Рік тому +22

      ​​@@andrewgibson6495This podcast is 1 hour and 12 minutes long, and you simply just said "Except he is wrong about almost everything. Certainly he's an apologist for the Russians" for seconds.
      I've just come to realisation that people like you, are having difficulty to understand long arguments with their strong premises. Your attention span is short and narrow minded. You cannot simply support your arguments with strong reasons except jumping into conclusion like complete trolls I found commonly online.
      It is called as "Realism view". As he has already mentioned at 7:29 that his arguments of realism is one that drives most people in the West crazy, and you are just showing us that you're getting crazy by his argument)) Look at you now! His point is proven.

    • @kingjasko
      @kingjasko Рік тому

      as an european, im saddened you think that way.. @@andrewgibson6495

    • @pr0newbie
      @pr0newbie Рік тому

      ​@@retrocool You probably didn't mean to demean the tribute system that China had in before the rise of Europe. It was far more humane and beneficial to the recipients (esp. Korea and Japan). Just refer to Prof David Kang's lecture on it.

  • @jahjal4665
    @jahjal4665 Рік тому +7

    Thank you for having Prof. John Mearsheimer, Pak Gita! All these "juicy" conversation is worth Its weight In gold!

    • @jahjal4665
      @jahjal4665 Рік тому

      next: H.E. EAM. Jaishankar, please..

  • @kikiitj8400
    @kikiitj8400 Рік тому +106

    I never understood why Japan attacked the US until listening to Prof. every time I listen to him, I learn something great.

    • @aide-toietlecieltaidera3724
      @aide-toietlecieltaidera3724 Рік тому +1

      McCollum memo

    • @陈晨-y7r
      @陈晨-y7r Рік тому +45

      Not only did Japan attack the United States in the past, but in the future when the United States is weak, Japan is also likely to attack the United States. Japan's ultimate pursuit must be complete independence. No country really likes to be stationed by other countries, and Europe is the same. , When the United States is using them, they are also thinking about how to use the United States, if it weakens the strength of the United States.

    • @andrewgibson6495
      @andrewgibson6495 Рік тому +16

      Really? It was well understood that the blockade of oil initiated the start of hostilities.

    • @QualityPen
      @QualityPen Рік тому

      @@andrewgibson6495Maybe, but not well taught. I never learned this in either high school or college or university general education courses on American history. I always assumed it was because Japan was a German ally.
      It took listening to voices outside of the mainstream media and educational establishment to learn that Japan’s attack was provoked by American attempts to strangle the Japanese economy. The American system is heavily invested in propaganda where we are the good guys and all of our enemies are bad guys who have no legitimate interests.

    • @papi-sauce
      @papi-sauce Рік тому +9

      @@陈晨-y7r only an arrogant government would think any self-respecting nation would like to be stationed by other nation's military... is a crazy concept

  • @TehDina.English
    @TehDina.English Рік тому +50

    This amazing interview left me speechless. Im currently on the 5th semester as an iR student. Im quite struggling to understand and catch up with whats going on in International system. This video gives me more hopes, i regain my confidence to involve in every discussion in class now (at least i dont feel left behind anymore) bc i have fed my brain with such an amazing analysis. Thank you so much, bangga banget. Semoga ada kesempatan untuk undang Barry Buzan ya Pak Gita

    • @jewczarb.4029
      @jewczarb.4029 Рік тому +1

      History.... is your best friend

    • @hanslu9706
      @hanslu9706 Рік тому +4

      As a 30-year-old Chinese individual who is not majoring in International Relations, and with English as my third language, I'm quite surprised that you have never judged the channel for using "China is the winner of the war" as an eye-catcher. To me, using this kind of irresponsible headline already makes me question how unbiased the discussion is. Furthermore, we all know that NATO constantly broke its agreements after the Cold War and expanded eastward, which triggered the war. I simply don't appreciate shifting the responsibility for modern warfare to China, whether the statement is true or not.

    • @aspesivtsev5617
      @aspesivtsev5617 Рік тому

      You can always find experts that talk about ongoing international conflicts. Like for example Brian Berletic or the Duran channel tell a lot of interesting realtities of Russian-Ukrainian conflict and other conflicts in the world

    • @mingsun-pg2zw
      @mingsun-pg2zw 11 місяців тому

      As a Chinese I really don't understand why the US wants to help China become stronger, is the US stupid, creating rivals for itself, I don't understand it.

    • @holiday8473
      @holiday8473 11 місяців тому

      Hello everyone! I am a worker with a Chinese "peasant identity" (under Chinese identity politics and household registration system, farmers are considered the lowest end of the population). After Professor Qin Hui's ideological enlightenment and awakening, I very agree with Professor Qin Hui's point of view: in the current context of globalization, the constitutional democratic system is being challenged by the autocratic Chinese model (that is, bad money drives out good money). Democratic countries around the world must deeply understand and understand the fact that since the CCP came into power in 1949, hundreds of millions of Chinese farmers have worked hard to pay public food, agricultural taxes The construction of water conservancy projects for free provided the CCP with the original financial accumulation at the beginning of the founding of the People's Republic of China. Under the family planning policy, Chinese farmers were forced to have abortions, ligation and ring fencing, and payment of fines for excess births. Farmers were restricted by the household registration system in rural areas and could not move freely, leading a serf like life. During the three-year period from 1959 to 1961, there were no natural disasters at all. It was entirely due to Mao Zedong's policies such as the "Great Leap Forward" and "Great Steel Refining" that local officials, in response to Mao Zedong's policies, falsely reported ultra-high grain yields and plundered the surplus food of farmers, which resulted in the tragic starvation of 40 million people in human history. The vast majority of these were farmers, At that time, not a single Communist official starved to death. After China's reform and opening up in 1980, the first generation of farmers went to cities to work as construction workers, sanitation workers, cleaners, and miners Waiting for the most tiring and dirty jobs, China joined the WTO in the early 21st century under the background of economic globalization. For example, the second generation of farmers entered red sweatshops as workers, manufacturing cheap goods for the world. Due to the lack of independent trade unions to fight for their legal rights, they could not enjoy social welfare benefits such as work-related injuries, unemployment, medical care, elderly care, housing, and children's education in urban areas, Their children were forced to return to rural areas for education due to their household registration as "farmers" and the "school district housing" system, resulting in the world's largest tragic situation of left behind children and elderly people living alone in rural areas in China. Nowadays, the first generation of farmers have become old and lose their ability to work. They are ruthlessly driven back to the countryside and struggle to make ends meet with a monthly pension of over 100 yuan. The minimum standard for urban household registration is over 2000 yuan per month, which is more than 20 times that of rural household registration. Communist Party officials enjoy privileges and benefits, and the annual medical and health expenses are as high as several million yuan. National level officials spend one billion yuan on tourism in a year. Due to the enormous sacrifices and contributions of these two generations of Chinese farmers, China has become the world's second-largest economy. However, the Chinese farmer group has received exploitation and negative welfare treatment time and time again in the process of national wealth distribution and redistribution, while civil servants and high-ranking officials within the Communist Party system enjoy privileges and high welfare treatment. The Communist Party government utilizes the advantage of low human rights and cheap labor to attract a large amount of international financial capital investment, making China the largest red sweatshop in the world. The reason why cheap goods made in China are popular worldwide is due to the "low human rights" and "negative welfare" of the Chinese "farmer identity" worker group. Even if they work overtime for extended periods of time every day, they barely survive with a meager income. To change the Communist Party government's use of the "low human rights" and "negative welfare" system of China's vast vulnerable group of farmers in unfair competition in the globalized trade market, democratic countries around the world have the responsibility to supervise and pressure the Chinese government to demand an increase in the human rights and social welfare protection of hundreds of millions of Chinese farmers and disadvantaged groups, in order to solve the problem of trade fairness under economic globalization. The trade sanctions imposed by the United States and anti-dumping measures by the European Union cannot solve the problem of trade deficits. If democratic countries believe that the human rights and welfare protection of hundreds of millions of Chinese farmers and vulnerable groups are not related to you, it will gradually lead to a decrease in the standards of wages and welfare protection for labor in democratic countries (such as left-wing political parties in the United States proposing policies to reduce social welfare protection), because although labor in various countries cannot move freely, But capital is profit driven and can flow freely. Which capitalist doesn't like a labor market like China without strong trade unions. If the human rights and welfare standards of Chinese "farmer identity" workers cannot be gradually raised to align with those of democratic countries, then the human rights and welfare standards of democratic countries' workers can only be gradually lowered to align with those of Chinese "farmer identity" workers (this can be seen from the documentary "American Factory"). Democratic countries around the world cannot turn a blind eye to the history of labor tears behind China's "peasant identity" after enjoying nearly 40 years of cheap goods and economic benefits made in China. Please stop having illusions about the CCP and implementing appeasement policies. While paying attention to the human rights of Xinjiang, Tibet, Hong Kong and people in exile, it is more important to pay attention to the human rights situation of all Chinese people, Only by constantly putting pressure on the CCP to improve the human rights of all Chinese people and the welfare protection of vulnerable groups, cultivate the rights awareness of Chinese citizens and taxpayers, help China establish free and independent trade unions, learn from the welfare accountability of Polish Solidarity Trade Union, force financial openness and budget transparency, will China gradually embark on the path of constitutional democracy. A free and democratic China is indispensable for the stability and peace of the world, and it is also a responsibility that democratic countries around the world cannot evade, because we are all citizens of the Earth. I hope that people with conscience around the world can work together to make constitutional democracy overcome dictatorship, let good currency overcome bad currency, and make this world more civilized.

  • @mbelgedhez007
    @mbelgedhez007 Рік тому +61

    Salah satu pakar paling dihormati dalam bidangnya, tapi juga paling sedikit didengarkan oleh para politisi. Demi mengejar keuntungan taktis dan jangka pendek, mereka harus kehilangan keuntungan strategis dlm jangka panjang. Dan itu jadi salah satu penyebab kemunduran AS: politisinya tidak mendengarkan ilmuwan, kalau mendengar adalah pada ilmuwan yg melayani kepentingan jangka pendek mereka.
    Terimakasih Pak John dan Pak Gita!

    • @harukrentz435
      @harukrentz435 Рік тому +13

      AS itu punya banyak pakar yg hebat2 tapi gak dipakai klo udah berseberangan dg prinsip neo-con mrka.

    • @slametandik6084
      @slametandik6084 Рік тому +4

      AS adalah negara kapitalis yg memuja uang dan ekonomi, Tuhan mereka adalah Dollar, tujuan mereka adalah merubah seluruh negara mjd kacung mereka dan China menentang itu, krn china lah satu2 nya negara dg kekuatan ekonomi terkuat saat ini, maka mari kita lihat sampai dimana akhir cerita dari pertempuran dua ekonomi raksasa dunia berakhir?,,,

    • @mbelgedhez007
      @mbelgedhez007 Рік тому

      @@harukrentz435 Kalau dilihat dr sudut pandang mesrshimer, neo-con dan kategori ideologis lainnya adalah retorika dari kepentingan nasionalnya. Hanya, baik yg konservatif dan liberal sudah sama2 kehilangan perspektif strategis (25-50 thn ke depan), politisi lbh cenderung taktis (5-10 thn ke depan) sesuai masa jabatan mereka.

    • @mbelgedhez007
      @mbelgedhez007 Рік тому

      @@slametandik6084 Itu salah satu nature dari kekuasaan secara umum, mulai tingkat desa hingga negara. Kalau Indonesia kaya, teknologi maju, militer kuat, sangat mungkin kita cenderung dominan di kawasan. Perbedaannya lbh pada gaya kepemimpinan karena kultur politik setiap negara berbeda.

    • @mulkanmulkan5620
      @mulkanmulkan5620 Рік тому +1

      Amerika melakukan banyak kebodohan dan blunder dlm perang ukraina rusia.... dgn gampangnya menyita aset negara lain.. obral embargo ekonomi... putus hubungan perdagangan sepihak... menggunakan dollar sebagai senjata penekan.... 😆😆 prinsip dasar dari dagang itu adalah saling percaya.. gimana misal gua mau dagang ama ente kalo misal ente mitra dagang yg gak bisa dipercaya.. bisa sewaktu2 wanprestasi dgn alasan sepihak 😆

  • @muhammadalfizar6768
    @muhammadalfizar6768 Рік тому +13

    Wow mind blowing!!! first prof martin now prof Mearsheimer the originator of offensive realism is an honor sirr!!! Thank you pak Gita for such wide range source of people to interview with.!!!! 😊😊😊

    • @maithanhnguyen1428
      @maithanhnguyen1428 Рік тому

      Thk you for sharing!

    • @spudwesth
      @spudwesth 8 місяців тому

      Look at WW2 maps of Ukraine. How did they get so much of Russia ?

  • @fajriluthfi9532
    @fajriluthfi9532 Рік тому +10

    Mantap wawancara nya, and as always, the way Mr. Gita formulate the questions are mind blowing...

  • @IR-Learning
    @IR-Learning 12 днів тому +1

    A great IR & Political scholar of the time .. love from Pakistan ❤

  • @jesussantafe5830
    @jesussantafe5830 Рік тому +30

    is probably one of the best and most comprehensive interviews given by Professor John Mearsheimer. impeccable interviewer. Thank you very much

    • @ViperOfMino
      @ViperOfMino 11 місяців тому +1

      Also one of the best I think that an interviewer has given him haha. Yesterday I watched a guy named Lex Fridmen (who has millions of subscribers somehow) interview Mearsheimer, and the guy could barely form a coherent thought, let alone a coherent question lol. The whole time I felt like Lex shouldn't have been conducting his interview because he knows like nothing about the topic so he barely knows what to even ask, and it really showed in his (attempts at) follow up questions. Gita, on the other hand, actually seems like he knows at least the basics on the topic and asks actually thoughtful questions that I haven't seen asked in other interviews I've watched/read by Mearsheimer.

  • @jwhan2086
    @jwhan2086 Рік тому +13

    Thank you Minister Wirjawan for setting up this fascinating and inspiring conversation.

  • @maria-luisagomez5120
    @maria-luisagomez5120 Рік тому +11

    Merci mille fois pour cet entretien -- On respire, finalement. --- Aux Etats-Unis, jamais je n´oserai partager cette vidéo avec mes collègues : je serai virée. -------En France, Colonie timide .....colonie plus timide des Etats Unis que l´Allemagne .... non plus.... Pourtant, je respire ..... le naturel de M Mearsheimer, Ah le bonheur ... Merci !

  • @bigdlamz
    @bigdlamz Рік тому +45

    Master class in geo politics. Prof John Mearsheimer explans complex theories in a very digestible way indeed

  • @nhlanhlakubheka222
    @nhlanhlakubheka222 Рік тому +10

    One of few Americans that makes sense love and admire Prof, keep telling us what is right

  • @isalutfi
    @isalutfi Рік тому +11

    Selalu mengesankan dengan narasumber yg luar biasa, orang2 hebat di bidangnya. Menyimak dulu. Terima kasih pak Gita

  • @harukrentz435
    @harukrentz435 Рік тому +10

    Woaaah gak nyangka pak gita bisa interview prof mearsheimer!

  • @JohnEhrhart
    @JohnEhrhart Рік тому +14

    I'm not convinced that only the powerful survive. What about those who successfully cooperate well? What about the powerful empires that have fallen throughout history?

    • @SilverforceX
      @SilverforceX 7 місяців тому +2

      Those make alliances with the powerful to survive.
      You think the weaker EU nations survived history without alliances?

    • @emilvafin436
      @emilvafin436 6 місяців тому

      Perfect example is North Korea, we know so little about them. But being a weak power in Asia they have underestimated diplomacy power. They just dance around two big forces Russia and China quite successfully for decades.

    • @yaphonghor4409
      @yaphonghor4409 6 місяців тому

      All history has taught us that a superpower could not exist forever, their lives only last 50-100 years! Time is up for US...

    • @seraph3761
      @seraph3761 5 місяців тому

      The US has not only become powerful politically and economically, they aren’t without powerful allies around the world as well. They are in fact, terrifying.

  • @shyamchaudhri
    @shyamchaudhri Рік тому +156

    Brilliant! He really cuts the clutter & lays out clearly the rules of geopolitics underlying the US foreign policy.

    • @seymorefact4333
      @seymorefact4333 Рік тому +8

      😂ANY COUNTRY NOT INVOLVE IN WAR IS A WINNER! DUHHH

    • @ZweiZwolf
      @ZweiZwolf Рік тому

      Indeed. China has really lucked out with America spending multiple decades fighting Muslims in the Middle East (West Asia) and now pivoting to the next decade fighting Russians in Eastern Europe.

    • @genelarson6849
      @genelarson6849 Рік тому

      Mear dances around the point he makes to wit Putin ass must be kissed

    • @spudwesth
      @spudwesth 8 місяців тому

      Why Japan attack? Ask Harry Dexter White - Soviet agent and pal of FDR.

    • @CosmosChill7649
      @CosmosChill7649 7 місяців тому

      Pearl Harbour was one of the first false flags by the USA, to bomb Japan. It was a precursor of 9/11, where the US would attack itself, since no one else will
      Don't expect true history from juice

  • @GeorgeMartinus
    @GeorgeMartinus Рік тому +24

    Jarang denger podcast yg berkualitas macam gini di kalangan UA-camr Indo. Mantap pak Gita.
    Biasanya saya update geopolitics di channel Cyrus Janssen. Kontennya dia sangat eye-opening dan banyak pengetahuan tentang ke arah mana dunia melangkah.

  • @muhammaddaffazw8541
    @muhammaddaffazw8541 Рік тому +6

    Mantap Pak Bagus Banget , Kalau Boleh Wawancara Colonel Douglas MacGregor dan Scott Ritter , Bisa memberikan Insight bagus
    Kalau boleh request lagi bisa Prof Kishore Mahbubani sama Prof Michael Hudson

  • @fiona4228
    @fiona4228 9 місяців тому +1

    This interview was fantastic, kudos to both gentleman. Listened to the following video recently on this platform --- John J Mearsheimer On behalf of Julian Assange -- I found Professor Mearsheimer's plea for Mr. Assange to be intelligent and compelling. This man is a gem to humanity in so many ways.

  • @jonrend
    @jonrend Рік тому +143

    I have to watch this one again and again, it covers most of the main Geopolitical conflicts we are now in. John can break things down in a very understandable way. He covered a lot in this one so definitely a re-watch for me.

    • @zhenyaka13
      @zhenyaka13 Рік тому +5

      John is wrong about most things. In this video he’s wrong about everything Hopefully because of ignorance.

    • @zhenyaka13
      @zhenyaka13 Рік тому +4

      He’s not even a contrarian with original ideas. Just 🤡

    • @gary7867
      @gary7867 Рік тому

      @@captainchaoscow a critique by a european, vassal states for the americans is no substantial whatsoever. He said that europe wanted peace and unshackle from the big global powers? lmao them europeans wanted to be the poker players themselfs, just look at france imperialism on west africa and multinational european companies like shell bribes corrupt goverments on 3rd world nations.

    • @geezz99
      @geezz99 Рік тому +2

      well once was enough .. to see he curiously very very sympathetic to Russia , ignoring the fact they in fact STARTED the WAR ??

    • @zhenyaka13
      @zhenyaka13 Рік тому

      @@geezz99 he’s in an odd group of intellectuals that imply that only US has agency and subjectivity. The rest of countries are simply marionettes.

  • @КЛИН-е2з
    @КЛИН-е2з Рік тому +110

    As a student of international relations this was such a treat to watch! I really loved it. Professor explaines everything so well, it is incredible! Also thank you for asking all the most important questions that we all wanted to know more about. All in all, this was just a 10/10 masterpiece of an interview! 💯💯💯🔝

    • @uwanttono4012
      @uwanttono4012 Рік тому +1

      @@zacharyklein2381 Prof Mearsheimer is from the University of Chicago.

    • @kidanemariameyob8752
      @kidanemariameyob8752 Рік тому +4

      I don’t agree with the assumptions about US security provided to East European countries.
      JM said “under the umbrella of US security” when talking about why the East European countries joining NATO. I once heard an interesting analogy made by the royals in Saudi Arabia when talking about the security provided by the US.
      He said that a shepherd brought a dog to protect his herd from a hyena that ate one of his goats every week at night but the dog had to be fed with meat of one goat a day.
      This explains perfectly the kind of security provided by the US.
      In Africa it’s a different ball game the US security train soldiers who then overthrow the governments.

    • @КЛИН-е2з
      @КЛИН-е2з Рік тому +1

      @@burgi6236 You are delusional. Look at the United states. The whole EU is becoming US puppet states at this point. And also look at their track record, how many invasions, how many coup detats. Literally half of the world has been invaded by the USA. So is it strange that Russia doesn't want the USA controlled military block NATO near their borders?

    • @doctorlife593
      @doctorlife593 Рік тому

      Porf J. Mearsheimer does not listen to what Putin said about Ukraine : that it is not a state. Not imperialism? In 2005 Putin told the nation on TV that the collapse of the Soviet empire “was the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century”. What about wars in Chechnya, Georgia,? What about Lavrov's Ulitmatum of Dec 2021: Demand of NATO structures from Poland and Central Europe to the state before 1990. Why did the Russians attack with too small army? Today we know and it is confirmed by interviews that the decision to attack was made on the basis of incorrect information and assumptions of the Russian FSB: that Ukraine will lose in two weeks, that the public will welcome Russian soldiers and that the Ukrainian army will surrender as a result of treason, as partially succeeded on the southern front -It was the ignorance of the enemy. “The Kremlin believed its own propaganda,” Clark says. “It thought it was going to be welcomed by the Ukrainian population as liberators and that the Ukrainian military would collapse.” There is plenty of evidence for that Putin has started the war beceasue of the imperial ambitions: 1. Siergiej LAVROV's Ultimatum to NATO of December 21st for liquidation of the Alliance’s military presence on its eastern flank. 2. In a televised address to the nation, Putin explicitly denied that Ukraine had ever had “real statehood,” and said the country was an integral part of Russia’s “own history, culture, spiritual space.” time.com/6150046/ukraine-statehood-russia-history-putin/ 3. Ignorance of the Ukrainian army: time.com/6258141/ukraine-russia-war-putin-military-mistakes/

    • @The.world.has.gone.crazy...
      @The.world.has.gone.crazy... Рік тому +3

      ​@@burgi6236America is NATO basicly and it does have plans to put nukes in Ukrain. Why do you think they are fighting the proxy war and trying to get eastern european countrys in NATO?

  • @esaharuman9128
    @esaharuman9128 Рік тому +22

    Gita Wiryawan is one of the world class quality persons from Indonesia.

  • @alpha88max
    @alpha88max 11 місяців тому +2

    He is one of the top professor I view to feed my geopolitical cravings. It's so much great to hear him explain the dynamics of today's world. You can surely take his word as the most closest prediction of unprecedented scenarios.

    • @holiday8473
      @holiday8473 11 місяців тому

      Hello everyone! I am a worker with a Chinese "peasant identity" (under Chinese identity politics and household registration system, farmers are considered the lowest end of the population). After Professor Qin Hui's ideological enlightenment and awakening, I very agree with Professor Qin Hui's point of view: in the current context of globalization, the constitutional democratic system is being challenged by the autocratic Chinese model (that is, bad money drives out good money). Democratic countries around the world must deeply understand and understand the fact that since the CCP came into power in 1949, hundreds of millions of Chinese farmers have worked hard to pay public food, agricultural taxes The construction of water conservancy projects for free provided the CCP with the original financial accumulation at the beginning of the founding of the People's Republic of China. Under the family planning policy, Chinese farmers were forced to have abortions, ligation and ring fencing, and payment of fines for excess births. Farmers were restricted by the household registration system in rural areas and could not move freely, leading a serf like life. During the three-year period from 1959 to 1961, there were no natural disasters at all. It was entirely due to Mao Zedong's policies such as the "Great Leap Forward" and "Great Steel Refining" that local officials, in response to Mao Zedong's policies, falsely reported ultra-high grain yields and plundered the surplus food of farmers, which resulted in the tragic starvation of 40 million people in human history. The vast majority of these were farmers, At that time, not a single Communist official starved to death. After China's reform and opening up in 1980, the first generation of farmers went to cities to work as construction workers, sanitation workers, cleaners, and miners Waiting for the most tiring and dirty jobs, China joined the WTO in the early 21st century under the background of economic globalization. For example, the second generation of farmers entered red sweatshops as workers, manufacturing cheap goods for the world. Due to the lack of independent trade unions to fight for their legal rights, they could not enjoy social welfare benefits such as work-related injuries, unemployment, medical care, elderly care, housing, and children's education in urban areas, Their children were forced to return to rural areas for education due to their household registration as "farmers" and the "school district housing" system, resulting in the world's largest tragic situation of left behind children and elderly people living alone in rural areas in China. Nowadays, the first generation of farmers have become old and lose their ability to work. They are ruthlessly driven back to the countryside and struggle to make ends meet with a monthly pension of over 100 yuan. The minimum standard for urban household registration is over 2000 yuan per month, which is more than 20 times that of rural household registration. Communist Party officials enjoy privileges and benefits, and the annual medical and health expenses are as high as several million yuan. National level officials spend one billion yuan on tourism in a year. Due to the enormous sacrifices and contributions of these two generations of Chinese farmers, China has become the world's second-largest economy. However, the Chinese farmer group has received exploitation and negative welfare treatment time and time again in the process of national wealth distribution and redistribution, while civil servants and high-ranking officials within the Communist Party system enjoy privileges and high welfare treatment. The Communist Party government utilizes the advantage of low human rights and cheap labor to attract a large amount of international financial capital investment, making China the largest red sweatshop in the world. The reason why cheap goods made in China are popular worldwide is due to the "low human rights" and "negative welfare" of the Chinese "farmer identity" worker group. Even if they work overtime for extended periods of time every day, they barely survive with a meager income. To change the Communist Party government's use of the "low human rights" and "negative welfare" system of China's vast vulnerable group of farmers in unfair competition in the globalized trade market, democratic countries around the world have the responsibility to supervise and pressure the Chinese government to demand an increase in the human rights and social welfare protection of hundreds of millions of Chinese farmers and disadvantaged groups, in order to solve the problem of trade fairness under economic globalization. The trade sanctions imposed by the United States and anti-dumping measures by the European Union cannot solve the problem of trade deficits. If democratic countries believe that the human rights and welfare protection of hundreds of millions of Chinese farmers and vulnerable groups are not related to you, it will gradually lead to a decrease in the standards of wages and welfare protection for labor in democratic countries (such as left-wing political parties in the United States proposing policies to reduce social welfare protection), because although labor in various countries cannot move freely, But capital is profit driven and can flow freely. Which capitalist doesn't like a labor market like China without strong trade unions. If the human rights and welfare standards of Chinese "farmer identity" workers cannot be gradually raised to align with those of democratic countries, then the human rights and welfare standards of democratic countries' workers can only be gradually lowered to align with those of Chinese "farmer identity" workers (this can be seen from the documentary "American Factory"). Democratic countries around the world cannot turn a blind eye to the history of labor tears behind China's "peasant identity" after enjoying nearly 40 years of cheap goods and economic benefits made in China. Please stop having illusions about the CCP and implementing appeasement policies. While paying attention to the human rights of Xinjiang, Tibet, Hong Kong and people in exile, it is more important to pay attention to the human rights situation of all Chinese people, Only by constantly putting pressure on the CCP to improve the human rights of all Chinese people and the welfare protection of vulnerable groups, cultivate the rights awareness of Chinese citizens and taxpayers, help China establish free and independent trade unions, learn from the welfare accountability of Polish Solidarity Trade Union, force financial openness and budget transparency, will China gradually embark on the path of constitutional democracy. A free and democratic China is indispensable for the stability and peace of the world, and it is also a responsibility that democratic countries around the world cannot evade, because we are all citizens of the Earth. I hope that people with conscience around the world can work together to make constitutional democracy overcome dictatorship, let good currency overcome bad currency, and make this world more civilized.

  • @nay2718
    @nay2718 Рік тому +7

    Thank you for having my favorite Professor of all time in your show.❤❤❤❤

    • @jaredwoodford8849
      @jaredwoodford8849 Рік тому

      Thursday 25-05-2023, I am sorry if my reply to your comments dose not correspond I am only providing thee such with all others at this time that have commented in which thee have with thinking ye as I hope have some of the same interests as I do. Which are the interests of all our people & the Earth. To support or find way they can in hope of that with not being able to contribute a comment to the program as yours has done thanks!
      Jared S. Woodford 25-05-2023
      Wednesday 24=05-2023 Those of the West leaders & those that knew of it supporting them having done wrongs again & as coming to their climax to succeed as sadly the lacking and costly way they had to more peoples & any other way from the way they did it having made so clear they had in the wrong, That Russia at last responded to those of the West making War on them as part of doing what they are of, and can be an opportunity if we bring their defeat. With the leader that has lead the defense from the West. I know could lead the world to becoming of a better way than the most successful nations of all being of the West’s way till following their way we destroy the world of our creation until we can destroy Earth no more & going by the pace we are doing ourselves.
      Jared S. Woodford 25-05-2023

  • @frankahling
    @frankahling Рік тому +16

    What a fantastic interview!!!, compliments from Sweden

  • @melbourne009
    @melbourne009 Рік тому +32

    An impressive interview about Realpolitik for a student of IR - by these two intellectuals

    • @mingsun-pg2zw
      @mingsun-pg2zw 11 місяців тому

      As a Chinese I really don't understand why the US wants to help China become stronger, is the US stupid, creating rivals for itself, I don't understand it.emmmmmm

  • @wong3150
    @wong3150 9 місяців тому +10

    Professor Mearsheimer is the most intelligent and insightful geopolitical expert I have ever come across.

    • @yaphonghor4409
      @yaphonghor4409 7 місяців тому

      He advocated for US to contain China, to suppress the rise of the Chinese, that is evil and unethical!!!

  • @kidanemariameyob8752
    @kidanemariameyob8752 Рік тому +99

    JM said “under the umbrella of US security” when talking about why the East European countries joining NATO. I once heard an interesting analogy made by the royals in Saudi Arabia when talking about the security provided by the US.
    He said that a shepherd brought a dog to protect his herd from a hyena that ate one of his goats every week at night but the dog had to be fed with meat of one goat a day.
    This explains perfectly the kind of security provided by the US.
    In Africa it’s a different ball game the US security train soldiers who then overthrow the governments.

    • @toronto2br
      @toronto2br Рік тому

      US army are actually cold blooded pythons. They are not poison. But if you do not feed them well, they will eat your fresh. Also you wish they could defend you, which is just your wish. They are for their own interests. Poor people should never bring pythons back home.

    • @muslimresponse103
      @muslimresponse103 Рік тому

      the USA does the same with Asian and American countries like in Africa and the middle east. they give aid and train the militaries and if the politicians go against the USA they then order the generals to perform a coup and depose the government. they did this with Egypt and their first ever democratically elected president Mohamed Morsi. they do this to Pakistan every 4 years since their independence from the british empire.

    • @hanslu9706
      @hanslu9706 Рік тому

      Completely agree.
      US government to his allies: Selling them weapons so they feel safe.
      US government to the rebellion army: Selling them weapon to fight for their "freedom and democracy".
      As a Chinese mainlander, this is exactly what US government did to Taiwan

    • @robertsattler8201
      @robertsattler8201 9 місяців тому +1

      So true - and I suppose Russia has learnt this story and will try to do it more trustful - at least until reaching a strong hegemony (?); well see! But I hope for a better multipolar world!

    • @CitsVariants
      @CitsVariants 9 місяців тому

      So what is eastern europe paying? cap!
      Saudis are most wealthiest on planet...

  • @egonchan_2024
    @egonchan_2024 Рік тому +7

    thank you for inviting John Mearsheimer to your channel, I've watched some of his lecturers especially about the crisis between Russia and Ukraine, USA vs China, his statements and opinions evoke people's curiousty of what will happen to geopolitic in the future.

    • @MrMohamedSakr
      @MrMohamedSakr Рік тому

      I never liked Americans when they try to analyze what's happening outside their land really...sounds too ignorant
      but this man changed my mind...

    • @netgodzilla1
      @netgodzilla1 Рік тому

      ​​@@MrMohamedSakr yeah especially with delusional experts like Peter Zeihan whose analysis tend to be unrealistic but kept on promoted by his country 😂

    • @MrMohamedSakr
      @MrMohamedSakr Рік тому

      @@netgodzilla1 i remember that guy who was ex-official in Sweden if i remember correctly Called Carl Bildt had debate with John..u can find it online.. was total unrealastic and kept calling john talking by fantasy , no respect at all.. i hated that guy

    • @geezz99
      @geezz99 Рік тому

      @@MrMohamedSakr he's American in name only .. Russian imperialist supporter at his core , that is obvious if you listen to how he ignores the fact Russa started a war , ohh wait .. i mean " special operation "

    • @MrMohamedSakr
      @MrMohamedSakr Рік тому

      every word he said makes sense....see the situation for what it's

  • @steffanusarifheruwatono6149
    @steffanusarifheruwatono6149 Рік тому +21

    It is such a great theory from the professor. I learn a lot from this podcast. Thank you, Mr. Gita W and Prof. John Mearshimer.

    • @charleslunleung5715
      @charleslunleung5715 Рік тому

      When will Elite Americans think for World Welfare above Their Selfish One?

  • @macybrown1903
    @macybrown1903 9 місяців тому +5

    Wow, thank you for this great interview! I learned so much! I wish the politicians in the US would have listened to Mr. Mearsheimer.

  • @FurqanJurdi
    @FurqanJurdi Рік тому +4

    wawancara anda sungguh berkelas semua... terima kasih sudah share percakapan yang cerdas dan mencerahkan...

  • @800_k_7
    @800_k_7 Рік тому +6

    I would like to say that some people are gifted with a bright mind and intelligent, some people learn in ten minutes. Others in ten years, but other never learn during their entire life. Prof. John Mearsheimer analysis over the conflicts between superpower should be taken rather seriously. Thank you Mr. John Mearsheimer for sharing your experience and thought. God bless you sir! God have mercy 🙏

    • @jparsit
      @jparsit Рік тому +3

      Somewhat agreed with him but he is not China expert. However, his main idea is right on the track. In fact, the more US anti China and Russia, more China and Russia get closer and stronger. Taiwan will return to China in Taiwan next election w/o a single shot. The US is already lost in economic and IR but too arrogant to accept it.

    • @GgfgHhk
      @GgfgHhk Рік тому +2

      There is a fallacy in the core matter! The so-called democratic freedom in the United States does not exist. What the United States has is the freedom of the plutocrats. To put it simply, don’t confuse the freedom of the plutocrats with democratic freedoms!

    • @hunterornot
      @hunterornot Місяць тому +2

      Suggest you watch videos of Prof Jeffery Sachs. He is at a different level than Prof JM.

    • @carinatao9974
      @carinatao9974 Місяць тому +2

      Jeffrey Sachs has better understanding of China-America issues and thoughts

  • @meneervrijdag
    @meneervrijdag Рік тому +11

    Terima kasih telah berbagi tentang video yang menarik dan edukatif ini. Saya sependapat dengan pernyataan John Mearsheimer yang menyebutkan bahwa situasi dunia saat ini jauh lebih berbahaya dibandingkan masa Perang Dingin. Sebagai seorang realis, John Mearsheimer menyebut perang di Ukraina sebagai "The Tragedy of Great Power Politics". Selain membahas mengapa AS tidak menyukai teorinya tentang realisme, dia juga memprediksi bagaimana China akan diuntungkan dari perang yang berkepanjangan di Ukraina. Tak hanya itu, dia juga membahas tentang bagaimana krisis iklim dapat meningkatkan ketegangan geopolitik di wilayah Arktik.
    Saya juga tertarik untuk mendengar podcast Anda dengan Henry Kissinger, jika ada kesempatan. Hal ini tentu akan sangat menarik dan dapat menambah wawasan kita tentang geopolitik global. Terima kasih sekali lagi atas informasinya!

  • @davitmnatsakanyan1271
    @davitmnatsakanyan1271 Рік тому +6

    What a monumental and iconic interview! Thanks.

  • @usdiasujatmaka3142
    @usdiasujatmaka3142 Рік тому +5

    Thank Pak Gita for inviting Prof John Mearsheimer. Great ideas and information useful for thinking the future of Indonesia in the global stage. Hope Indonesian politicians watch and learn from this.

    • @victoriajade521
      @victoriajade521 Рік тому

      Did China invade your country after they built your railroads? No… good to know.

    • @Blanka1100
      @Blanka1100 Рік тому

      JM is utin's useful idiot and he does not give a damn world moved on and Russia is not Eastern Europe's master anymore.

  • @danielsegone8397
    @danielsegone8397 Рік тому +25

    A huge and impressive deep analysis of a master of international relations... congratulations on this excellent interview!

  • @ammarhabib7471
    @ammarhabib7471 Рік тому +7

    father of neorelism in international relations, great interviewes Mr. Gita.

  • @xiaowang1215
    @xiaowang1215 Місяць тому +1

    This interviewer was calm and articulate, and asked good quesions.

  • @EkantBhairab
    @EkantBhairab Рік тому +129

    China's space advancement is a pride for all mankind. The world is looking forward to peace and prosperity in China's leadership unlike war and destruction brought by america's prosperity that was founded on kleptocracy. Kudos to China❤❤❤

    • @TheTruthSeeker756
      @TheTruthSeeker756 Рік тому +6

      Laughable what you say

    • @borneandayak6725
      @borneandayak6725 Рік тому

      I mean, as long as China stand against USA, its all good, although China are Communist.

    • @oswarz
      @oswarz Рік тому +14

      @@TheTruthSeeker756 Bald opinion without back-up evidence? Laughable.

    • @victoriajade521
      @victoriajade521 Рік тому +12

      @@TheTruthSeeker756 addicted to that blue pill. Keep sleeping.

    • @Wvk5zc
      @Wvk5zc Рік тому +2

      @@TheTruthSeeker756 come back bro

  • @jiajunxu614
    @jiajunxu614 Рік тому +82

    Professor John changed the concept of "hegemony" quietly. What China pursues is Economic success and Technological and Scientific innovation. He confused the idea of Economics and technology development with the establishment of “Hegemony”. By the way, the best for survival is not hegemony but economic and technological success.

    • @jeffery-r1l
      @jeffery-r1l Рік тому

      I agree with Xu. Professor John makes his view out of America arrogant manner. Chinese are very civilized to go to top out of hardworking and fairness from confusious teachings but not killing others to reach to the top. American killed kill and are killing other to try to reach the top because of barbaric and arrogant manner. That is different between great Chinese and barbaric Americans. Scary ghost.

    • @plendafuture7451
      @plendafuture7451 Рік тому +17

      See economic success and technological advancements predisposes to hegemony . What china pursues is ' means ' which predisposes to hegemony . Whether it has the intentions to be a hegemon is unnecessary - whether it has the capacity of being one is important .

    • @Bexxxyable
      @Bexxxyable Рік тому +24

      ​​@@plendafuture7451 the bigger question is how the USA became a hegemon and what it's currently doing around the world to maintain it's hegemony, compared to the peaceful rise of China. If future intentions were so reliable, why do Doctors need a track record of academic, clinical and moral excellence to qualify to become a Dr. Why can't just anyone be Doctors? Because everyone looks at their past to determine their future. If you studied China's history, China was the one who was colonised, raped, pillaged and plundered, not the other way round even if it could've during its Ming/Tang dynasty rule. The same can't be said about European Americans who essentially pillaged and massacred their way into the lands of the Native Americans and not to mention the USA is the only country to have used nuclear bombs and has over 800 military bases worldwide, so it can't claim any moral high ground whatsoever!

    • @alexanderchenf1
      @alexanderchenf1 Рік тому +1

      BS

    • @jparsit
      @jparsit Рік тому

      Agreed, John is an expert in GEO_POLY but not much in Economic and IT. China is a sleeping Dragon that is quietly collecting power of trade and IT. When she wake up. the US will turn to ashes.

  • @adidasukiputra
    @adidasukiputra Рік тому +8

    Mata kuliah gratis 1 sks di amerika .. Thx pa gita teruskan

    • @wowokgg7280
      @wowokgg7280 Рік тому

      Prosesor ini aja ketar ketir sama 🇨🇳🇨🇳🙊🙊🙊🙊🗿🗿🗿🗿

  • @danielpan2159
    @danielpan2159 5 місяців тому

    Thrilled to have such a wonderful speech by intelligent John and professional interviewing by Gita!

  • @SectionSixteen
    @SectionSixteen Рік тому +127

    So worth listening to. I hope we will have more of JM on UA-cam. I thank whoever put this interview on YT.

    • @edibleagrotechnologies
      @edibleagrotechnologies Рік тому

      Ppppppppp0ppp0pp

    • @edibleagrotechnologies
      @edibleagrotechnologies Рік тому

      Ppp

    • @Blanka1100
      @Blanka1100 Рік тому

      JM is loved by russian trolls for reason. He is Putin's useful idiot.

    • @michaelnextdoor8726
      @michaelnextdoor8726 Рік тому +3

      He's a compelling speaking but he's wrong about a lot of stuff. Thinks it's okay for big countries to bully small ones.

    • @SectionSixteen
      @SectionSixteen Рік тому +7

      @@michaelnextdoor8726 You're not alone in that belief. Many other commenters have called JM an apologist for bullying behavior. JM is in the business of *predicting* behavior. That doesn't mean that he endorses the behavior that he forecasts. He advises that nations should formulate policies, based on how other nations are *likely* to behave, rather than on behavior that is *hoped* for.
      I avoid walking through high crime neighborhoods, all alone late at night. I have a perfect right to walk down those streets anytime, but I try to not do foolish things. JM is a man of profound compassion. He advises nations to not do foolish things, for which a hideous cost is likely to be incurred. Personally, I wish his advise were more heeded.

  • @JoscelinTrouwborst
    @JoscelinTrouwborst Рік тому +20

    Wow, over more than a year I have listened to many of John's talks and conversations. I find this one at this point in time the most comprehensive conversation and analysis of geopolitics; superb, master.

    • @spxram4793
      @spxram4793 Рік тому

      Disagree. He just transfers the Russian viewpoint into the English speaking world. Because of that, a number of logical weaknessess and leaks are inevitable in his argumentation. He is pro-Putin, anti-US, anti-China.

    • @andrewgibson6495
      @andrewgibson6495 Рік тому +1

      He is just wrong, relying on a big world view based on false assumptions. He isn't an expert in anything, except in his own unexamined belief that authoritarian regimes can't be held to account. The Russians must love him.

    • @spxram4793
      @spxram4793 Рік тому +1

      @@andrewgibson6495 Agree. Apart from his strongly pro-Russian viewpoint, one could see him as a strong believer of the "Cold War Religion", which tells that a group of certain countries are untouchable. As you said. In the beginning of the war on Ukraine, Kissinger transpired similar statements, but later he agreed that Russian behaviour is entirely unacceptable and needs to be fought off.

  • @edwinjoy3932
    @edwinjoy3932 Рік тому +12

    It's a freshness to have Prof. Mearsheimer updating with the current events.

    • @spxram4793
      @spxram4793 Рік тому

      He just transfers the Russian viewpoint into the English speaking world. Because of that, a number of logical weaknessess and leaks are inevitable in his argumentation. He is pro-Putin, anti-US, anti-China. If he was Russian or Chinese, he'd anyway fell out of a window long ago.

    • @geezz99
      @geezz99 Рік тому

      He's been not very acurate so far , go watch his previous youtube lectures ..

    • @Dex4Sure
      @Dex4Sure Рік тому +2

      @@geezz99 Wrong. He's been very accurate. SJWs from the west just don't want to hear reality, they just want to believe in western exceptionalism and supremacy. People like you are just people who want to live in la-la land.

    • @andrewgibson6495
      @andrewgibson6495 Рік тому

      He trots out the same old ideas. He has big world view that ignores reality. He is surprisingly blind and alarmingly enamored with authoritarian regimes.

  • @ClrenceKayet-iy9vk
    @ClrenceKayet-iy9vk 6 місяців тому

    Am so grateful to have this lesson from Prof. Mearsheimer for free. The facilitator is has also done a great job.

  • @cristianderrick
    @cristianderrick Рік тому +5

    Terima Kasih Pak Gita, Narasumber yang mantap betul!!

  • @SuperRujito
    @SuperRujito Рік тому +4

    Pak Gita, Thank you for inviting John Mearsheimer to your channel. I really enjoy the discussion and a lot we can take from John. Hanya saran kecil saja Pak, seandainya bapak juga dress up seperti John akan lebih keren pak.

  • @Madelro100
    @Madelro100 Рік тому +6

    A masterful class. Everything that Mearsheimer says makes sense. Thanks a Lot (from Uruguay)

  • @suararakyat5454
    @suararakyat5454 Рік тому +5

    Pak gita luar biasa, minggu depan harus berupaya menghadirkan pakar ekonomi MMT Michael Hudson, biar semua orang bisa paham teori MMT dan skema BRICS

    • @User_39sankyu
      @User_39sankyu Рік тому

      Iya, banyak yg salah paham dengan BRICS. Kaum ura-ura dan bocil mamarika. BRICS itu aliansi ekonomi, bukan militer kayak NATO. BRICS bukan dewa penghancur Amerika. Perang ekonomi lebih efektif dari perang terbuka.

  • @Ricardo-lb4so
    @Ricardo-lb4so Рік тому +44

    Brilliant analysis by profesor Mearsheimer, and impecable prospective. I wish his latest book is published in spanish the soonest possible, please.

    • @rodrigogaray5453
      @rodrigogaray5453 Рік тому

      Ni brillante ni nada parecido. Mas bien una mierda pinchando un palo.

    • @spudwesth
      @spudwesth 8 місяців тому

      Look at WW2 maps of Ukraine.

  • @trichosaputra3265
    @trichosaputra3265 Рік тому +13

    Indonesia sendiri pun pernah mempraktekkan apa yang pernah dilakukan jepang, yaitu ketika merebut papua dari Belanda. Terpaksa menggunakan strategi militer (operasi Trikora) walaupun peluang berhasilnya kecil dan faktanya secara militer gagal, Namun secara politik menang. Belanda menyerahkan papua ke pbb, pbb menyerahkan kerakyat papua sendiri lalu dibuatlah PEPERA.
    Hasilnya: papua masuk Indonesia

  • @Bizzboy5444
    @Bizzboy5444 14 днів тому

    What a great interview! Thank you Pak Gita and Prof. Mearsheimer

  • @Reader481
    @Reader481 Рік тому +5

    Great interview. Would love to see an interview like this on the Middle East with a focus on Iran-Arab-Israel scenario.

  • @tarasovblog
    @tarasovblog Рік тому +10

    Really smart person. Im Russian and can confirm he understands our concerns exactly correct.

  • @DefaultName-ex1sz
    @DefaultName-ex1sz Рік тому +6

    highly potential pak Gita become a millenial shepherd for the future, a new insight opening

  • @Busna-m9t
    @Busna-m9t 3 місяці тому +1

    Thanks Pa Gita for your this great marvelous channel

  • @martinweigert8807
    @martinweigert8807 Рік тому +15

    Maybe the industrial / military complex in the US has always been interested to own the Russian resources. It would also save the US Dollar as a reserve currency and the show can go on.

  • @mehdikhazraei9133
    @mehdikhazraei9133 Рік тому +141

    I love how he puts complex ideas into very simple words!

    • @markart157
      @markart157 Рік тому +2

      It means he understands his thing.

    • @michaelnextdoor8726
      @michaelnextdoor8726 Рік тому +4

      You wouldn't agree with everything he believes in if he were being honest.

    • @andrewgibson6495
      @andrewgibson6495 Рік тому

      He has a simple view that conforms to his own biases. He's a 'big picture' guy who can't see the trees in the forest. Worthless.

    • @geoeconomics5629
      @geoeconomics5629 Рік тому

      ​@@michaelnextdoor8726
      Those who control Eurasia control the World
      -
      J.H.Mackinder

    • @seymorefact4333
      @seymorefact4333 Рік тому

      😂ANY COUNTRY NOT INVOLVE IN WAR IS A WINNER! DUHHH

  • @mado0096
    @mado0096 Рік тому +6

    Terimakasih telah menyediakan subtittle bahasa Indonesia, pak 🙏

  • @800_k_7
    @800_k_7 8 місяців тому

    It's no surprise that after carefully listening to Prof. John Mearshimer I can better understand the dinamic shaping the world today. Thank you Mr. John Mearshimer for making your valuable opinion and analysis. God bless you sir! God have mercy 🙏

    • @yaphonghor4409
      @yaphonghor4409 6 місяців тому

      The Professor is spreading the idea that US must contain China, focusing in suppressing Chinese rise and support unipolar system of this world where US is the sole superpower!!!

  • @heryanbalo
    @heryanbalo Рік тому +18

    This is content that plays an important role in the rise of the Eastern Hemisphere towards the new millennium era.. thank you from me, a millennial

  • @iwanong1533
    @iwanong1533 Рік тому +5

    Next kindly invite Scot Ritter and Col Douglas Mac Gregor. Hatur nuhun pisan Pak Gita.

  • @juanpisente7464
    @juanpisente7464 Рік тому +8

    Thank you Prof. Gita Wirjawan for the amazing content. We, as Indonesians, are incredibly lucky to have you as an inspiration.
    I would humbly like to add to Mearsheimer's points. As someone who immersed himself in Chinese history as a young boy and is currently taking business in university. I believe that the United States are overlooking a few things, including Professor Mearsheimer.
    1. The Chinese, historically, have a concept called the "Tributary System." Basically, a pragmatic China would leave their neighbors alone as long as they pay "tribute" to the Chinese. The US have a perspective as if, wherever China walks, autocracy will follow similar to the Cold War with Communism. I don't think that is the case. China doesn't care about the internals of other countries as long as "they paid tribute." The Yuan Dynasty only invaded the Singhasari because our ancestors did not pay tribute. I think this idea of pragmatism will be highlighted as China's soft power projection in the future. The world can trust China more because they never coup a third world country, unlike the US.
    2. The Chinese are incredibly long-term oriented. This is the lands of Sun Tzu and their warfare tactics revolves our deception. I don't think Taiwan is China's end goal. Taiwan is just a distraction. I think a Chinese-dominated international finance is the end goal. We see how Saudi Arabia turned from the US after Chinese exports of Saudi oil eclipsed that of the Americans. They see the power in buying themselves friends. If one day China invaded Taiwan, it would be in a day where Southeast Asia have been dominated with Chinese money and SK-Japan no longer becoming advanced economies due to their advancing age demographics. They are playing the long game. They are sacrificing their short-term goals in Taiwan for long-term financial dominance.
    3. Many American theorists (even in UA-cam) predicted that China will collapse anytime soon. They are underestimating the Confucian culture of the Chinese society. They said when China opened the COVID-19 restrictions because of the protests, it becomes as symbol that China will collapse. China doesn't work like that. When the West has a concept called "Divine Right to Rule," China has a more transactional-based concept to justify rule called the "Mandate of Heaven." Basically, this includes an Confucian ideal where the people give their full loyalty to the state and in return, the Chinese state will protect and provide their needs. China opening the COVID-19 restrictions is a symbol that the PRC is acting in accordance to the Mandate of Heaven and Confucian ideals. They are listening to the people. If anything, the Chinese would appreciate their government more after the protests.
    Chinese philosophy is very pragmatic. Their government will not collapse just because a government official is contradicts another. America's greatest mistake will be to use their line of thoughts on the Chinese instead of trying to learn from the Chinese's own unique eastern-way of thought. The Chinese, humiliated by the West for 200 years, have known the Western way of thought all too well evidenced by their love of Mearsheimer. There is a Chinese advantage in war of minds. In the past, I like to say to my International Relations friends in campus that "the Americans are playing chess, while the Chinese are play mahjong." Mearsheimer is right when he says the Americans have to take the Chinese more seriously.

  • @anushavenkatachalam2323
    @anushavenkatachalam2323 8 місяців тому

    What an articulate and succinct interviewer! John Mearsheimer is amazing as always. Thanks for this!

  • @jordantrajkov6207
    @jordantrajkov6207 Рік тому +5

    Always a pleasure to listen to Prof. Mearsheimer.
    I wonder what is his opinion on the role of the non aliance movement from the Cold War era.

    • @jaredwoodford8849
      @jaredwoodford8849 Рік тому

      Thursday 23-05-2023, I am sorry if my reply to your comments dose not coraspond, correspond I am only proved providing thee such with all others at this time that have commented in which thee have with thinging, thinking ye as I hope have some of the same interests as I do which are I think are the interests of all our people & hope the Earth. To support or find way they can in hope of ihai, that with not being able to contribue, contribute a comment comment, comment to the program as yours has done thanks!
      Jared S. Woodford 25-05-2023
      Wednesday 24=05-2023 Those of the West leaders & those that knew of it supporting them having done wrongs again & as coming to their climax to succeed as sadly the lacking and costly way they had to more peoples & any other way from the way they did it having made so clear they had in the wrong, That Russia at last responded to those of the West making War on them as part of doing what they are of, and can be an opportunity if we bring their defeat. With the leader that has lead the defense from the West. I know could lead the world to becoming of a better way than the most successful nations of all being of the West’s way till following their way we destroy the world of our creation until we can destroy Earth no more & going by the pace we are doing ourselves.
      Jared S. Woodford 25-05-2023

  • @bekicot88
    @bekicot88 Рік тому +70

    Sayangnya US ahli perang narasi. Mereka punya banyak analisis2 militer bayaran yg tugasnya membuat tindakan US terlihat benar. Sama waktu perang Irak

    • @Arjunarjunskiy
      @Arjunarjunskiy Рік тому +7

      Betul sekali...

    • @alvinite9164
      @alvinite9164 Рік тому +1

      ga ada bedanya sih sm Russia dan China🤷‍♂ liat aja buzzer cina sm rusia bergerombol di kolom komentar soal politik US-China atau perang Russia-Ukraine, belom lagi media massa negara mereka sendiri yg punya cabang internasional

    • @bekicot88
      @bekicot88 Рік тому +12

      @@alvinite9164 mereka mencontek apa yg dilakukan US dari sejak perang Irak. Perang Rusia-Ukraina tinggal analisis negara mana yg paling diuntungkan, sudah pasti US negara paling banyak dpt keuntungan. Dari awal perang, US menikmati keuntungan kenaikan harga minyak dan gas krn Uni Eropa pun terpaksa beralih sebagian beli minyak dan gas ke US, order senjata meningkat tajam ke industri militer senjata US, politisi US mendapat duit banyak dari kepemilikan saham industri militer dan minyak. Rusia dan China tentu jg dpt keuntungan tapi paling banyak adalah US. Setiap konflik sudah dipikirkan agar US dpt profit banyak. Lagian media Rusia juga banyak yg dilarang jd tetap media US paling mendominasi jd udah paling gampang sebar narasi, google, facebook, instagram dll tetaplah US menang banyak sebar narasi. Coba didengar lagi videonya

    • @monadi1000
      @monadi1000 Рік тому +8

      ​@@alvinite9164 beda dong US jauh lebih joss ...us pernah ngebom jepang pernah habisin iraq .. china dan russia gak ada apa2nya cuma gitu2 aja

    • @cintanusantara4406
      @cintanusantara4406 Рік тому +2

      Mendengar dr pembicaraan ini,terlihat jelas bahwa asurikalah biang keroknya..

  • @mamat.rohimat
    @mamat.rohimat Рік тому +20

    Terima kasih pak Gita. Saya suka mendengarkan analisis dia tentang Ukraina. Bahkan dia jauh jauh hari sudah prediksi,dan sudah mengatakan bahwa yang membuat Ukraina perang adalah karena NATO melakukan kesalahan fatal dengan terus ekspansi ke timur. Padahal sebaiknya Ukraina itu netral

    • @Time4Peace
      @Time4Peace Рік тому

      Mearsheimer is a dove on Russia. He makes sense on his analysis on Ukraine war, like another American Jeffrey Sachs.
      Mearsheimer is basically saying this: don't waste time fighting Russia. Fight China because China will be a bad hegemon. American hegemon is better.
      In reality, China will not be a hegemon even if it wants to. Because it will be a multipolar world, crowded with US, EU, and Japan together and new ones appearing like India, Brazil and Indonesia.
      Moreover, China wants to do investments and trade. It does not interfere with internal affairs of others. In trade and investments, everyone wins.
      US is all about power and control. It's not interested in developing other countries. It has 800 bases all over the world to coerce others, to assassinate, kidnap, sanction and invade on endless wars. It wants to protect USD as the world reserve currency in order to keep printing free USD for huge military expenditure.
      Mearsheimer is twisting logic and making assumptions for a war with China. He is a dangerous war monger who wants to force nations choose: you are either with us or against us.

  • @jadeandmax
    @jadeandmax 9 місяців тому +3

    Having immersed myself in "The Israel Lobby and US Foreign Policy" by John J. Mearsheimer and Stephen M. Walt, I am now tuning into this podcast. It's fascinating to observe that even Realism is compelled to confront the moral dimensions at play.

    • @frankie_lanaro
      @frankie_lanaro 9 місяців тому

      Yes, minister, the moral dimension, a suggestion

  • @tristandwightreyesjr.3840
    @tristandwightreyesjr.3840 Рік тому +9

    a HEAVY topic but explained in a clear easy to understand way. thank you so much. may this discussion touch the hearts of policy makers, hearts of those who call the shots, hearts that failed to care about people's lives

    • @GgfgHhk
      @GgfgHhk Рік тому +1

      There is a fallacy in the core matter! The so-called democratic freedom in the United States does not exist. What the United States has is the freedom of the plutocrats. To put it simply, don’t confuse the freedom of the plutocrats with democratic freedoms!

  • @ramanand7639
    @ramanand7639 Рік тому +21

    Very intelligently and craftily conducted dialogue. Great understanding of international power struggle.

    • @GgfgHhk
      @GgfgHhk Рік тому +1

      There is a fallacy in the core matter! The so-called democratic freedom in the United States does not exist. What the United States has is the freedom of the plutocrats. To put it simply, don’t confuse the freedom of the plutocrats with democratic freedoms!

  • @sguntarto
    @sguntarto Рік тому +84

    John Mearsheimer, a professor of political science at the University of Chicago, believes that a "cold peace" between Ukraine and Russia is the best hope for a world order led by China. He also discusses how the humiliation of China by European great powers, the United States, and Japan has shaped China's current worldview and approach to international relations. He concludes by discussing the significance of various regions to the United States and how realism should guide its foreign policy decisions in a multipolar world.

    • @panor4m1x
      @panor4m1x Рік тому +1

      41:00

    • @thomas.a.lassen
      @thomas.a.lassen Рік тому +8

      He also gracefully fails to mentions Russian and Soviet participation in the humiliation of China.

    • @Time4Peace
      @Time4Peace Рік тому

      Mearsheimer is basically saying this: don't waste time fighting Russia. Fight China because China will be a bad hegemon. American hegemon is better.
      In reality, China will not be a hegemon even if it wants to. Because it will be a multipolar world, crowded with US, EU, and Japan together and new ones appearing like India, Brazil and Indonesia.
      Moreover, China wants to do investments and trade. Ot does not interfere with internal affairs of others. In trade and investments, everyone wins.
      US is all about power and control. It's not interested in developing other countries. It has 800 bases all over the world to coerce others, to assassinate, kidnap, sanction and invade on endless wars. It wants to protect USD as the world reserve currency in order to keep printing free USD for huge military expenditure.
      Mearsheimer is just a wily fox twisting logic for a war with China. He is a dangerous war monger who wants to force nations choose: you are either with us or against us.

    • @Blanka1100
      @Blanka1100 Рік тому

      He does not give a damn what Ukraine and other Russia's Eastern European neighbours think and want in all of this. He is stucked in Cold War era when Eastern Europe was Russia's backyard. Someone, please tell him, Eastern Europeans are free. They are not Russia's slaves or a buffer zone and they hate Russia for a reason. It is called own experience with Russia over the centuries. War in Ukraine was never about Nato at Russia's borders. Nato is there for decades and never invaded Russia. Russia loves invading and annexing its smaller neighbours just because it can. If Ukraine had been in Nato. Putin would have not invaded it. Ukrainians will not sacrifice their freedom and land just because Russia has nukes.

    • @Blanka1100
      @Blanka1100 Рік тому

      @@Silly-Irish China cares about China only.

  • @firdausarief8029
    @firdausarief8029 Рік тому

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  • @paddynair6446
    @paddynair6446 Рік тому +19

    John meirsheimer realistic as usual. He has got this spot on because he is a PURE REALIST and does not deal in abstract political theory😊😊🎉

    • @blingwraith6951
      @blingwraith6951 Рік тому

      All IR theory is abstract

    • @selocan469
      @selocan469 Рік тому +1

      Indeed my mate! Taking realism and self proclaiming as the only genuine realist is unrealistic indeed. Good luck your self made delusions, Mr. John Mearsheimer. Any sensible man knows no country is good or bad, it is all relativistic and choosing the better or less desirable option/alternative. I would choose democratic hegemony over an authoritarian one in a breath any time sine I do not have the option to choose none.

  • @dawaynecleckley8673
    @dawaynecleckley8673 Рік тому +4

    This may be the best interview I've ever seen regarding current foreign policy between the Kings of the North and South. Very enlightening.

  • @ssss8162
    @ssss8162 Рік тому +11

    Solid interview. Clear, concise, language and thoughts. The man deserves his legendary status.

    • @andrewgibson6495
      @andrewgibson6495 Рік тому +1

      A legend in his own mind at least. His analysis is facial, and just plain wrong. Makes him dangerous if people believe it.

    • @GgfgHhk
      @GgfgHhk Рік тому +1

      Total fallacy! Will NATO's eastward expansion threaten Russia? 😂😂😂 The Warsaw Pact has long since disappeared. So what is the significance of NATO's existence? NATO itself is a threat! It's just full of lies!

    • @GgfgHhk
      @GgfgHhk Рік тому +1

      There is a fallacy in the core matter! The so-called democratic freedom in the United States does not exist. What the United States has is the freedom of the plutocrats. To put it simply, don’t confuse the freedom of the plutocrats with democratic freedoms!

  • @deanrepair864
    @deanrepair864 6 місяців тому +3

    You are great Dear Professor John Mearsheimer! God Bless you!!! You are our hope!!!

  • @strategylordxu7934
    @strategylordxu7934 Рік тому +5

    This conversation is just amazing and informative, thanks for the sharing!