Im afraid of one of the e motors to malfunction. Or get wet and stop working like phones. Think how often phones break not riding through the woods at 25mph
*Works great my **Latest.Bike** I have a bad knee so I still get exercise but the bike assists me. I am a big guy so I didn’t think it would go as fast but it works great.*
I'd take it apart and upgrade everything posible. Thicker wires, beef up Parts if needed. I might get that one for my bike. And create a one wheel trailer attached to my seatpost to tow a car battery behind me with a trickle charger to charge my bike on the go. I'd be able to travel all around townfor a few days be for recharging the car battery.
Great video. Looks good. I'll be following your project here on this build. Thanks. Where are you from originally and where are you located now? I really enjoyed your video you had on your electric bike with power tool batteries.
throw included tire & tube away they are too skinny and stink. also put duct tape or some form of tube protection between tube and the tops of wheel spokes as added torque rubs ALOT
Bought and received today a 500 watt 36 volt front wheel kit, haven't opened box yet, (no battery) motor from website looks exactly like this one, it says on box shipping weight 44 pounds!! before I open it does anybody think 44 lbs shipping weight for a 500 watt conversion kit (no battery) sounds way to heavy?
Question: I have this very unit as the Rear Model with Thumb Throttle...can you recommend a replacement controller preferably on Amazon to replace a Burned out unit. Thank You! Love your Video's
When you purchased your conversion kit how much did it cost and you did not purchase a battery I am understanding that the kits are not that expensive but it is the battery that is most costly
I purchased a kit and it got delivered today I won a bid on ebay by the company the kit cost 189 GBP to buy new it cost 340 GBP but it is a 3000w motor and runs of a Bluetooth programable controller it can be set at different voltages from 48 to 96v set by the app they send you just download threw your smart phone purchase a battery threw internet best to build a battery with 18650 batteries in series and paralel to give the desired voltage can get speeds up to 120kph can't wait to build it
Well, I was hoping to see what ever hapen to those skinny wires on that charge controller...?? I'am considering this kit (black wheele)but when i saw how skinny the charge controller wires were kinda of spooked me away from the black one..I'am wondering if the kit with the chrome strips wheele is the same way (skinny wires)..I had planned on buying 5 / 12s laptop batteries to used on this project..What do you think about that?
Hello from Kansas. I just got the front wheel version. I'm thinking I should of gotten the rear. Is the only difference the included sprocket? Can I remove my sprocket from my bike and install it to the front wheel version hub? Thanks in advance for your response. Rick
I recently purchased this kit through Amazon. I must say the service was quick, but the instructions on how to install were completely lacking. It came with a small book that showed the color codes and not much more. I followed the color codes and took a lot of time installing and making sure the wires all were installed correctly and neatly. The results were terrible. It does not work the minute I plugged it in it sparked. It shorted out and has not turned once. I have tried to contact the seller to no avail and Amazon just ignores me. I do not recommend this product. and support is none existant.
There are many different variations and sellers for these kits. They are not made by the same manufacturer. Mine also sparks when I connect the power wire. It produces sparks because it needs to charge up the capacitors inside the controller. If you have problems with it, maybe there's something you're missing in the installation process? Try just to connect these 3 wires: Power, Hall sensor, and the 3-color wire bundle (yellow, blue, and green) and see if it works. Don't hook up everything so maybe you can use the process of elimination to figure out the problem. Or maybe you just have a dud. I'm almost done with my project for this bike and I'll post videos of detailed installations in the next few days.
steve bigler I thought of doing that, hopefully being able to use the same throttle and battery for both motors, otherwise its prob just a matter of how much space you have on the Bike. I will probably add a mid-drive to the front hub I got for more torque at a standstill and to help up the hills.. Maybe a small battery pack with high output.
Bernard Ellefsen nice i only use in 500w bro bet u can do 40 + ay it ....u shud be ok but if the wheel nuts slips on the frame it wud lift ya up but because of ya weight close to the back ya should be ok without the torx arm .....it's just a thick plate of metal to lock the axle in place cause the frame or forks am to weak .......before torx arm i welded a big washer to it and that worked for time untill i had to drill my front fork to attach the torx arm with a small bolt job dun lol
if ya front forks am thin metal this would need torx arm to stop the wheel axel turning in the forks and then rolling down the road i had it with 48v 500w version LOL😀
vuaeco is exactly the same size as yours somebody told me all they do is they put a different speed control in the box but the wheel is the same from 500w to 1000w that's how they make their money if you know what I mean
vuaeco yes that's all I'm going to do when they decide to go to 48v I would just buy a controller that's what they want you to do they want to go out and buy an new wheel kit👍
@@vuaeco I just watched your video on how the controller wires hook up. That was an awsome tutorial on the controller. Its Dec. 25 , 2020 now and was wondering you got more experiences on E-bikes so is it true that those 1000w motors are the same as the 500w or they just handle more voltage and amps?
Can you tell me the benefit of a front wheel vs rear. It seems a rear wheel kit is much better in all ways that really matter. I just ask because I was sent the same front wheel but I had ordered a rear. And don't want to pay shipping back. But it just seems strange putting on front of a MTB. Won't get very good traction which is why I bought one, to go up some hills. This thing will just want to spinout I'm sure.
Unless you're going up some very steep hills, it always has good traction. I've used my front wheel hub ebike for over 2 years and never had any problem with traction going up hill. It may make the front a bit heavy. But I can tell you the rear hub motor will make the back heavy, too! I have both ebikes with front and rear motors. You still might have trouble going up hill with a rear motor because now it has a tendency to do wheelie just because the rear is too heavy (especially if you have a battery pack on the rear rack also!)
Is there any way to run the motor straight from just a battery? I don't know what is negative and positive on the motor wheel its confusing with the 5 small wires and the three big wires.
The motor is AC current and the controller sees a "~" waveform of the passing magnets, north south north south and so on and puts out a pulse width modulation. What you *can* do is bypass the throttle cable wires and stick a 6 leg potentiometer inline possibly. But you would have to look up the wiring diagram to be sure 100%. The controller wants to see resistance increasing on three wires, and dropping on the other 3 as far as i know. A Razor Ecosmart Metro 36V uses the same set up but motor is DC.
I have the exact same kit. What's the minimum amount of amp hour that the motor will run. Every seller says they need different nominal amps. One says 11.6 ah, one said 17.5 ah, and another said something in between. On lunacycle, the 17.5 ah is one of the most expensive... What do I go with?!
I think they are talking about Amps, not Amp hour. They are not the same thing. Amps is the current required to run the motor when it's under load. I don't know the minimum Amps required for this motor. But I'll test it out in real life and will post results. But let's just say it needs at least 10 Amps to run. That's the discharge rate of your battery. If your battery is 100 Amp Hours but has less than 10A discharge rate, still, it is not capable of running this motor (when under load)
Yes there is a formula. But you'll need an Amp meter for your actual use. How far you can go depends on how fast your speed is. The slower it is, the farther you can go. For example, if your motor consumes 5A at 20MPH and that is 5A x 48V = 240Wh. So to travel 20MPH for one hour, you will need a 240Wh battery pack (or 5Ah at 48V battery pack). If your speed is faster than 20MPH then you'll need to get a bigger battery pack to travel the same 20 miles distance.
There is No one battery that will take you anywhere near 50 miles unfortunately i use a 20ah for the 48v 1000w motor an lucky to get around 20 miles an that is pushing it...
i bought a similar unit , when i hold the axile bolt in my hands the wheel wont spin or free wheeel , is that normal ?? are the magnets so strong you cant hold it in your hands and spin the rim?
hi there i have a 36 volt 350 wats brushless motor with 3 power wires red black green and 5 small wires but no controller the motor refuse to start with a 40volts battery is it because theres a built in controller or what? by the way when i turn the wheel there is a spark between red and black wires please help thanks a lot
@@تدبّر-ع6ظ 5-pin cable is a hall sensor. A brushless controller should have a 5-pin cable also. What's strange on your motor is that it has 3 different colors than a regular brushless motor. A regular brushless motor should have yellow, blue, and green not red, black, and green.
He died on that bike, so I will answer your question, Max speed is 20mph then the motor shuts off, 10ah battery last like 1 hour then you are pushing dead weight 70lb bicycle good luck
The only limit to the battery size is your bike frame. If you carry it on the rear rack, the limit is the weight limit of your rack. Other than that, there's no limit. My battery is 10Ah and I can go for 25 miles distance per charge.
Would love to see this kit installed on your bike.. follow up video?
Link to next videos are in the description.
would love to see one off these on a honda hobbit
Im afraid of one of the e motors to malfunction. Or get wet and stop working like phones. Think how often phones break not riding through the woods at 25mph
*Works great my **Latest.Bike** I have a bad knee so I still get exercise but the bike assists me. I am a big guy so I didn’t think it would go as fast but it works great.*
Looking forward to next video on this project.
Link to next videos are in the description.
I almost got the kit you got but decided on a 36V 250W to start with. Im gonna upgrade in a while.
I'd take it apart and upgrade everything posible. Thicker wires, beef up Parts if needed. I might get that one for my bike. And create a one wheel trailer attached to my seatpost to tow a car battery behind me with a trickle charger to charge my bike on the go. I'd be able to travel all around townfor a few days be for recharging the car battery.
6:50 is pedal assist sensor. Looking forward for the next video.
Sunarto Tea PAS is no need to use absolutely
I agree thump throttle is very tiring to your thump on long ride to Vietnam.
helpfull video :-) I also wear Crocs :-)))
Yep. Crocs is well ventilated and your feet don't smell like a septic tank every time you get in bed with your wife/girlfriend.
Have you continued this series? I would love to see you build this.
thomas reddick uyu I y
Toocaram Raggoo what?
maybe he is still saving for the battery heh
Link to next videos are in the description.
Great video. Looks good. I'll be following your project here on this build. Thanks. Where are you from originally and where are you located now? I really enjoyed your video you had on your electric bike with power tool batteries.
Piece at "6:50" would be the speedometer sensor.
throw included tire & tube away they are too skinny and stink. also put duct tape or some form of tube protection between tube and the tops of wheel spokes as added torque rubs ALOT
Bought and received today a 500 watt 36 volt front wheel kit, haven't opened box yet, (no battery) motor from website looks exactly like this one, it says on box shipping weight 44 pounds!! before I open it does anybody think 44 lbs shipping weight for a 500 watt conversion kit (no battery) sounds way to heavy?
Yeah. I just got a 1000 watt kit. Front wheel dd. I think it said on the box shipping weight was 28 lbs. Also no battery included
You got scammed homie
Question:
I have this very unit as the Rear Model with Thumb Throttle...can you recommend a replacement controller preferably on Amazon to replace a Burned out unit.
Thank You!
Love your Video's
When you purchased your conversion kit how much did it cost and you did not purchase a battery I am understanding that the kits are not that expensive but it is the battery that is most costly
I purchased a kit and it got delivered today I won a bid on ebay by the company the kit cost 189 GBP to buy new it cost 340 GBP but it is a 3000w motor and runs of a Bluetooth programable controller it can be set at different voltages from 48 to 96v set by the app they send you just download threw your smart phone purchase a battery threw internet best to build a battery with 18650 batteries in series and paralel to give the desired voltage can get speeds up to 120kph can't wait to build it
Interesting accent. Kind of like Creole+Vietnamese if I were to guess.
he speaks bulgarina
Hi; will the bike work if we choose to omit the pedal assist parts and only use the throttle? Thanks
Yes it will. That's what I did.
Magnet disk is on your pedals
Do you have to put the pedal-assist device on? Like really what's the point of adding it since you have the actual motor? I don't get it.
Osm. Hamko bhi lena h. Kha se milega electri bike
Awsome!
What do you think:
To hope that they should go down price? or Buy now?
If you need it, buy it. This is not like the stock market where you have to buy low and sell high. :D
Ok! Thnks.
Well, I was hoping to see what ever hapen to those skinny wires on that charge controller...?? I'am considering this kit (black wheele)but when i saw how skinny the charge controller wires were kinda of spooked me away from the black one..I'am wondering if the kit with the chrome strips wheele is the same way (skinny wires)..I had planned on buying 5 / 12s laptop batteries to used on this project..What do you think about that?
Hello from Kansas. I just got the front wheel version. I'm thinking I should of gotten the rear. Is the only difference the included sprocket? Can I remove my sprocket from my bike and install it to the front wheel version hub? Thanks in advance for your response. Rick
You sir, are a bit crazy using a front hub of that magnitude
The thumb throttle has a latching system.....
do u think a flywheel could be placed on it?
i wanna see how you wired everything i have this kit and idk how to install it didnt come with instructions
Is the controller labelled LY48V1000W
I recently purchased this kit through Amazon. I must say the service was quick, but the instructions on how to install were completely lacking. It came with a small book that showed the color codes and not much more. I followed the color codes and took a lot of time installing and making sure the wires all were installed correctly and neatly.
The results were terrible. It does not work the minute I plugged it in it sparked. It shorted out and has not turned once. I have tried to contact the seller to no avail and Amazon just ignores me. I do not recommend this product. and support is none existant.
There are many different variations and sellers for these kits. They are not made by the same manufacturer. Mine also sparks when I connect the power wire. It produces sparks because it needs to charge up the capacitors inside the controller. If you have problems with it, maybe there's something you're missing in the installation process? Try just to connect these 3 wires: Power, Hall sensor, and the 3-color wire bundle (yellow, blue, and green) and see if it works. Don't hook up everything so maybe you can use the process of elimination to figure out the problem. Or maybe you just have a dud. I'm almost done with my project for this bike and I'll post videos of detailed installations in the next few days.
I have the same - good motor. Other pieces very bad quality, especially brake levers
Where is the follow-up video?
What happens if you use a front AND rear electric hub?!!!
steve bigler I thought of doing that, hopefully being able to use the same throttle and battery for both motors, otherwise its prob just a matter of how much space you have on the Bike. I will probably add a mid-drive to the front hub I got for more torque at a standstill and to help up the hills.. Maybe a small battery pack with high output.
You'll a go faster
Damn shit is so much more
Now
yeh bro nice .....don't forget ya torx arm to stop it opening up front forks lol
dave Yates do u "need" a torx arm for rear wheel?
Bernard Ellefsen depends on if your frame wheel nut points am strong bro you might not need em on back what power [watts] you useing
1200w ;)
Bernard Ellefsen nice i only use in 500w bro bet u can do 40 + ay it ....u shud be ok but if the wheel nuts slips on the frame it wud lift ya up but because of ya weight close to the back ya should be ok without the torx arm .....it's just a thick plate of metal to lock the axle in place cause the frame or forks am to weak .......before torx arm i welded a big washer to it and that worked for time untill i had to drill my front fork to attach the torx arm with a small bolt job dun lol
if ya front forks am thin metal this would need torx arm to stop the wheel axel turning in the forks and then rolling down the road i had it with 48v 500w version LOL😀
I wonder if your thousand watt wheel is exactly same as my 500 watt wheel because they look the same
My motor is 9.5 inches diameter and 2.5 inches thick. What's yours?
vuaeco is exactly the same size as yours somebody told me all they do is they put a different speed control in the box but the wheel is the same from 500w to 1000w that's how they make their money if you know what I mean
Great to know that. That might be the case. Then we just get the 500W kit and put in a better controller then? :D
vuaeco yes that's all I'm going to do when they decide to go to 48v I would just buy a controller that's what they want you to do they want to go out and buy an new wheel kit👍
@@vuaeco I just watched your video on how the controller wires hook up. That was an awsome tutorial on the controller. Its Dec. 25 , 2020 now and was wondering you got more experiences on E-bikes so is it true that those 1000w motors are the same as the 500w or they just handle more voltage and amps?
Can you tell me the benefit of a front wheel vs rear. It seems a rear wheel kit is much better in all ways that really matter.
I just ask because I was sent the same front wheel but I had ordered a rear. And don't want to pay shipping back. But it just seems strange putting on front of a MTB. Won't get very good traction which is why I bought one, to go up some hills. This thing will just want to spinout I'm sure.
Unless you're going up some very steep hills, it always has good traction. I've used my front wheel hub ebike for over 2 years and never had any problem with traction going up hill. It may make the front a bit heavy. But I can tell you the rear hub motor will make the back heavy, too! I have both ebikes with front and rear motors. You still might have trouble going up hill with a rear motor because now it has a tendency to do wheelie just because the rear is too heavy (especially if you have a battery pack on the rear rack also!)
@@vuaeco Hey thanks vuaeco. love your videos.
How about installing?
if you install the wheel can you still use the petals?
Just wondering video says four years past so how did it work out for you how long did it last what is your opinion on it
This motor still works on my ebike. It's clocking over 1000 miles and still kicking. It's the best investment I've ever made! :D
Hi, what is the diameter of spokes, have you measured?
Hello dear sir I'm asking you how much money you pay for it thank 😊😅
Do you happen to know the RPM it puts out unloaded? I think this puts out 45 Nm torque.
Can you still get it for this price?
Yes, there are plenty on both Ebay and Amazon.
Price?
thank you.
I have been riding for 5 years now and even the twist throttle is tiring. I need cruise control brother, can you design it for me?
Peter Howard get an o-ring and put it between the throttle and the grip.
You are still happy?
Hola mi amigo yo compre 1kit pero el controlador es de batería de litio se puede hacer un cambio
What’s the motor settings ? Please tell me if any one know
Eeeeebaaaaaayyy
it is pas sensor
Is there any way to run the motor straight from just a battery? I don't know what is negative and positive on the motor wheel its confusing with the 5 small wires and the three big wires.
Not with brushless motors. You need a controller.
@@vuaeco thank you so much
Can you just hook up the 3 wires to a regular ESC and ignore the hall sensor?
The motor is AC current and the controller sees a "~" waveform of the passing magnets, north south north south and so on and puts out a pulse width modulation. What you *can* do is bypass the throttle cable wires and stick a 6 leg potentiometer inline possibly. But you would have to look up the wiring diagram to be sure 100%. The controller wants to see resistance increasing on three wires, and dropping on the other 3 as far as i know. A Razor Ecosmart Metro 36V uses the same set up but motor is DC.
If you had a DC motor with 2 wires you can put power straight in, but make sure it is current limited.
Can you buy two fro front and back wheel?
Did you manage to get the regen working on the controller?
I cant find the Continuation of this video
I need 1 kit please price in Pakistan
I have the exact same kit. What's the minimum amount of amp hour that the motor will run. Every seller says they need different nominal amps. One says 11.6 ah, one said 17.5 ah, and another said something in between. On lunacycle, the 17.5 ah is one of the most expensive... What do I go with?!
I think they are talking about Amps, not Amp hour. They are not the same thing. Amps is the current required to run the motor when it's under load. I don't know the minimum Amps required for this motor. But I'll test it out in real life and will post results. But let's just say it needs at least 10 Amps to run. That's the discharge rate of your battery. If your battery is 100 Amp Hours but has less than 10A discharge rate, still, it is not capable of running this motor (when under load)
how much battery do I need to travel 50miles with tis 48v 1000w motor? or is there a formula I can use to find this out?
...carrying 200lbs total at average speed of 30mph
Yes there is a formula. But you'll need an Amp meter for your actual use. How far you can go depends on how fast your speed is. The slower it is, the farther you can go. For example, if your motor consumes 5A at 20MPH and that is 5A x 48V = 240Wh. So to travel 20MPH for one hour, you will need a 240Wh battery pack (or 5Ah at 48V battery pack). If your speed is faster than 20MPH then you'll need to get a bigger battery pack to travel the same 20 miles distance.
Great! Big help, I can use this informaation to go on with my project. Thanks
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There is No one battery that will take you anywhere near 50 miles unfortunately i use a 20ah for the 48v 1000w motor an lucky to get around 20 miles an that is pushing it...
i bought a similar unit , when i hold the axile bolt in my hands the wheel wont spin or free wheeel , is that normal ?? are the magnets so strong you cant hold it in your hands and spin the rim?
That's not normal. It should spin and freewheel when there's no power.
and the next video?
Link to next videos in description
Hi, I wonder if a 36v 20a LiFePO4 battery would power this motor.
A 36V 20A pack will not power the motor. You will need a 48V pack.
Wow, what a price.
Could you tell me the data of the bms of your battery? Thank you
does the wheel takes 27.5 inches tire ? wha is the width of the tire it takes ? thanks
No, it only takes 26" tires. Tire size is 26 x 1.95
@@vuaeco it makes no sense bro. if the rim you having is 26 inches it should take 27.5 tire right..?. please double check
I need to know if this is for front OR rear wheels.
Front
vuaeco - could you tell me the spoke length on this wheel ?
Max speed??
Haha what surprised you didn't know what that for the pedal assist
hi there i have a 36 volt 350 wats brushless motor with 3 power wires red black green and 5 small wires but no controller the motor refuse to start with a 40volts battery is it because theres a built in controller or what? by the way when i turn the wheel there is a spark between red and black wires please help thanks a lot
A brushless motor requires a controller. HOw do you hook up the battery to the motor?
its a built in controller the battery is connected but i have 5 small wires may be the hall sensors how do i play with those?
@@تدبّر-ع6ظ 5-pin cable is a hall sensor. A brushless controller should have a 5-pin cable also. What's strange on your motor is that it has 3 different colors than a regular brushless motor. A regular brushless motor should have yellow, blue, and green not red, black, and green.
@@vuaeco yes i know its because the controller is built in to the motor
Lien de l'achat Svp ?🙏👍😀
Where's the battery?
Here's the battery: ua-cam.com/video/CSYB60GSLic/v-deo.html
Max speed and price
He died on that bike, so I will answer your question, Max speed is 20mph then the motor shuts off, 10ah battery last like 1 hour then you are pushing dead weight 70lb bicycle good luck
The controller is bad quality !
I bought this kit and controller is HS after only 3 km run...
Pls link me 3000 watt hub motor pls💖
Theebikemotor.com
amigo cuanto cuesta el quit en dolares
It's about $160 U.S. Dollars.
+vuaeco Please show us this hub on your bicycle!
como recargar la vateria
Raúl Anaya con un cable pendejo
Speed thru opening a box - wasting lot of time
العراقي. في كل مكان
lou?
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Whats the biggest battery i can get for this and whats the distance i can get with it?
The only limit to the battery size is your bike frame. If you carry it on the rear rack, the limit is the weight limit of your rack. Other than that, there's no limit. My battery is 10Ah and I can go for 25 miles distance per charge.