I got banned from driving for 1 year & needed solution to get to work (15 miles away) . That was wen I stumbled on Andy curby doing this . I now cummute to work everyday on ebike . Been though it all . Spoke replacements , snapped throttle , controller fets shorted in rain .. best thing ever saved me a ton on money on petrol
I worked with a crew that fitted machinery worldwide. All our batteries had to be removed and put in to a marked padded fireproof case prior to travelling. Some really useful tips. Thanks for the video :)
Absolutely love the Kirby kits. I have a 500w rear hub diy kit and the install was pretty straight forward, had to test fit the wheel two or three times. I also ditched the bag and designed and 3d printed a bracket and integrated cable management box. I made a custom torque bracket from 4mm stainless steel. The 500w kit is all I ever need. Good power and pretty good range with the included battery 48v 13a. Nice instructions not many go into detail about the washers.👍
13:00 yes when the wires touch you are actually completing a circuit on the coils this is reason why you have resistance which is only present in permanent magnet motors. If if was a induction motor you wont experience any resistance until you apply power to the coils.
I like these videos. The everyday use approach (obviously you don't need everything in the kit, if you don't want to).. and the subtle humor and throughness. One thing I would've liked to see was the casette/freewheel installation, and probably some mention of the hub spacing on MTB's (depending on the type of dropout), what you can do and what you can't do. There's plenty of videos on the tube about changing freewheel/casette for sure, but not many doing it on a 2kW hub motor. I've got an MTB with QR dropouts and those only have 135mm spacing at the hub. It won't fit a motor like this and a 7 speed freewheel/casette I think.
Great video I've been doing diy electric bikes for 2 years with what I learn on UA-cam. This video explains everything very well and makes like so much easier after watching this video. Keep up the great work pal
Thank you for making this video. I have been thinking about building my own electric bike and most videos are more like paid promotions and don't have a lot of actual advice in them. I would make one suggestion on buying the caliper space to the motor. They sell brake disc shims to go behind the rotor in 1mm increments. Use a rotor shim, and then you can adjust the caliper on the mount as they usually have some side to side adjustability to keep the pads evenly spaced on each side.
Just bought & fitted my first Kirkbe kit. Your advice on fitting washers to the cassette side of the wheel saved me from smashing the kit into a million pieces, in utter frustration! Thanks chap, top, top geeza!!! I agree about the PAS sensors too, can be a real pain to fit and using throttle only gives a much smoother ride.
Nice walk through on the install. The only thing I would have done differently is using an old inner tube as protection of the frame where the jubilee clip is at. I also used old tubes to protect the frame from the chain and if you take your time wrapping the frame it actually can look good.
Agreed! Something else to keep in mind while ebiking is to wear the proper helmet, most helmets have an outdated safety standard, the best ones are the ones that pass the nta standard like xnito or bern hudson
Watched this video before I built an Ebike from a kit, saved me lots of time. I would not have known to remove the disk spacer, slotted right in. I built the bike in 1.5 hour.
I would also think that spreading the rear end with a washer may result in having to space the rear brake disc, or you might find it binding with the bake pads all in all a very good tutorial for beginners. ;-)
these kits are engineered for a "range" of different spacings for all of what might be available out there..they are kits>>.not for the feeble minded or bot it together rich kids...
Following this vid, my wheel has gone in easily - almost too easily :-) Everyhting lined up virtually straight away, seems solid. I like how you minimalise it, using only the stuff you really need. Mine will be built the same style.
I learned a lot from this video, especially about installing the back wheels. Now I know why I started getting play when I fixed back wheel flats. Never used a hammer to fit it into the cassette.
The one thing I wish that these conversion kit manufacturers would do is make some kind of housing that can contain the controller and then the housing could bolt to the seat tube to secure it. That would make installing the kit much easier for the one installing the kit.
Man, this is such an amazing tutorial. Because you go through all the troubleshooting as you go I love that. I really feel like I’m learning from you and I now have the confidence to take this project on! Thank you !!
Well done Steve..this will help alot of people doing there diy builds. Some really good points there, a few important tips that for new builders can be a Real ball ache. 👍
@DudeStuff Buddy these three ebike build videos are just awesome and will save a lot of new ebike builders time without the frustrations and headaches. The information on removing the plastic spacer behind the disc brake is so helpful along with the washer spacings for the dropout. I can wait to try my installation again when I have the opportunity!
11:43 there is another tip as well if you put your disc rotor on to the actual e-bike wheel vs you noticed there is a arrow pointing on the desk facing you apply your tyre which the arrow is facing the same way as the disc
Great video. In the near future I will build Kirbebike's 1500-2000w hub motor kit for my second bike. I just ordered it. My first conversion was a Bafang 750w mid kit. I drive it mostly in the forest and in the countryside. I got some good tips for the future conversion from your video👍
I would really recommend installing the pedal assist. Two advantages saving battery power and getting the exercise everyone needs. But if you are in top condition and still want to ride the bike as a normal bike you can of course But hey why not have a little assist by riding up hill and or wind in your face. The gears will definitely be helpful. Thanks for sharing from Mexico.
It's a good thing that you never get a flat or have to service the inner tube or tire. Especially out on the road. You would want to always keep your rubber mallet with you along with some extra zip ties. I'm not sure about the connections to the controller. Hopefully they are not too permanent as well.
Mate I love the walkthrough step by step so much detail put into it which makes it even better to understand thanks for that was amazing bro ’ll be doing as you say to build my own sometime when I get around to getting all the stuff when I have the money can’t wait to watch the rest bro thanks 🙌👌👍🤙😎😎
Cant wait to see it complete and riding to its top speed. Mine is only 500 watts and tops at 47 kph. At first i found the 47kph to be satisfyingly fast. Now, its not enough. Id want to go 60-70 kph if possible.
Glad to see you were using flush cut cutters to trim the tails off the cable ties. The number of times I cringe when someone cuts off the cable tie tails leaving a 3 x 4mm razor sharp edge. I used to use thousands of cable ties at work and if we left any sharp edges we were in trouble from whoever cut themselves on them. By using those flush cut cutters with the flush side toward the head of the tie the tail gets cut flush with the surface leaving no sharp bit sticking out.
Ive never done anything like this but have wanted desperately to get into it....I just need to take the plunge thanks for taking the time to methodically go through first stage. 👌🏻🔥👌🏻
With that much power of speed on back wheel, do you think as time goes on the back frame will start breaking apart? Any speed over 20mph will be a rough ride if on roads regularly. It's extremely uncomfortable of the frame used for a powerful motor. I learn from experience to always use a 2 piece frame with dual shocks of front and back as in a hardtail frame. Other frames the speed over 20 mph and up will be a bit shaky at times when going over rough terrain, potholes, dips, bumps, ect.
Nice job save... you have to take in account of REAR flat tire... he has it nice and tight but that doesn't work out well once he gets a rear flat tire. I've rode my E-bike so much that I keep a repair kit on me to repair a flat to and from work. Gotten good enough I can usually to that repair within 20 minutes but the same note? I had my motor hub or the front and nine tenths of flats happen to the rear tire. Usually front tire pops up something sharp and REAR hits it. I'm going rear drive this build around... so I'm also going to go either with a solid tire or solid inner-tube because? I've had a day that was bad enough? I changed TWO flats in one day, new innertube and all and inspecting the tire itself to insure I did pull out the offending item that punctured my innertube. But even with the front mounted motor? I MADE SURE there was enough slack in the power cord leading to it? I could pull the wheel off enough to change the innertube. It's tricky but possible but ONLY if you leave enough slack with the power cable leading to the motor. He's got his power cable so snug to the motor... he is going to have to cut those zip ties to be able to get the tire FAR ENOUGH off the bike frame to change a flat. But besides that? Spot on nice and tight work! A little too tight in my opinion. Then again I use by bike to commune to work so I need the ability to fix a flat on the spot. You'd be surprised how fixing a flat for twenty minutes beats walking your bike home to fix it THEN spending that 20 minutes fixing it there.
Good video . Thanks. I enjoyed the terminology differences between your location and mine. Eg: " Jubilee clip" where i am is called a " hose clamp". Cheers!
i had an incident where the soft walled tire moved on the rim and tore the valve from the tube due to the higher speed from the rear wheel, the way to fix that problem is to coat the tube and tire with Talcum Powder, i use a small paint brush to coat the inside of the tire and rub the powder by hand to the tube, then just shake out any surplus powder from the tire, this method stops the tube sticking to the tire under load and works 100% , i now use Maxi Hookworm or Schwalbe wire rimmed tires with larger tubes and no mishaps re punctures or tire slippage, hope this helps.
My Giant Talon 29er from 2012 has three front cogs and eight cogs on the rear hub. Do I need to switch to a single cog on the front to convert with the Kirby kit?
No bro you don't need to do that it's even better with three cogs cuz you can pedals normally when you use pedal assist don't spend your money good luck
I went for the front wheel option. More weight on the front in crap weather and no friction involved. Bit like a front wheel drive car, it will pull the steering out of trouble.
High power front hubs are sketchy they can slide out from underneath on turns in wet weather, unlike a car that won't fall over. The dropouts on most forks aren't great for over 1000w imo. Feels really weird dropping off a kerb on front wheel power as it loses momentum instantly as the front leaves the ground.
This was an awesome video!!! Iv watched other videos about such and dudestuff actually answered some of the questions I had! We will see if I can make it look as smooth
Just done a 500 w Kirby kit with mtx wheel for going to work on a cheap bike and highly recommended I'm a big fella pulls me okay and plenty fast very easy to do. love the video's
Thanks for the learning curve. Now I can be a first time expert. That brake spacer would have been cut into tiny pieces after it came off if I had to figure that out the hard way. when did they start using USA sirens over there?
DS, love the break down. I know most of this is simple knowledge for regular riders, but you do well at making sure a novice will understand. I won't thumbs down you because it's too simple.
i like your video and I am by no means an expert on this subject couple of things the color black as in the speed controller keeps the heat in white and silver reflects heat also if that case is alloy it looks to be the paint will peal off there is a special process for painting alloy called etching i only know this because i did work in a powder coating company and we did coat alot of alloy if not done correctly well you will see otherwise very informative video
Andy Kirby wheel kit my ears are listening.48V15Ah-20Ah Li-on Lithium E-bike battery With Rear Rack for 48V1000W-2000W Electric Bike FREE SHIPPING TO US AND SHIP FROM US, UK, DE, CA, AU. Great video keep up the great work. Regular price$295.00 USD.
I'd probably spray the controller white. Even a fine layer of black will cause the part to absorb heat. Seen tests done on intercoolers with white black and bare metal and the white wins. I'm looking to convert my bike. I've got a 10 or 11 speed derailleur. Can I just use the travel stop screw to limit my gear changer?
Hi ho from australia,beautiful job of quality fitting,i,m going to re name you roger rolex,swiss quality job.love the use of the zip ties,neat quality job,why not!! Looks great,goes great.also great tip thinking ahead putting allen key head out,hold nut at back.you set a high standard of quality and attention to detail.plenty of people pay for that attention to detail.good stuff nice to see ,"doing the right thing".thanks for the lesson,cheers
Hello dude stuff how long does it take for the battery to arrive after the motor because the motor arrives a couple days ago and I’m just curious how long it’s going to take for the battery to arrive thanks
Another quick question when is your next conversation video I can’t wait I just enjoy watching the process of building it if you are going to build one I will be building the specialised rockhopper sport with the 2000w kit so I would appreciate you doing that bike so if you run into any problem or issues I will know how to resolve them as you would have done it in the tutorial. Thanks
How long do these kits last, before the motor or controller or something dies and one's forced to buy a whole brand new one or are they modular? Interested in doing my own 1st conversion after looking at what's on the market; all low-spec and high-price factory-made. But, one thing I was told is that the conversion kits don't last and that it's better to buy a proper made one. Thoughts?
Lol who told you they don't last? So a friend told you they last but a shop bought bike with electrics is magically better? Dude they last fine I've never had an issue in 2 years and 40+ conversions
@@DudeStuff awesome...that's very reassuring. Yea, they were selling factory-made ones, so, there was the obvious bias of self-interest but it did make me wonder. I thought it possible to imagine that a kit added to a bicycle is not the same as something purpose-made for a specific bike; that these kits just die off and need replacing soon enough. After all I have no experience or knowledge of their quality. All I know is that they all come from China. So, do Apple phones, so the old prejudices no longer apply - they can make cheap or expensive things. Anyway, thank you for sharing your experience. It gives me confidence moving forward. Are there any brands that you recommend more over others. I don't know the hierarchy of quality except I see a recurring number of few brands on eBay. Voilmart, famex, and a couple others I can't remember just now. I was drawn to famex 1500W with internal controller for the sleeker look with a Panasonic 52V 20ah battery or higher if I can find one. I'm in London and making a conversion with delivery work in mind and range is number1 consideration and speed number 2.
My wheel kept coming out. Now I use a steel frame and it will never get lose again. Kinda scared now to use alu frame somehow. My frame in the back was also not wide enough so that caused the issue as well but be aware that washers need 2 fit perfectly in the dropout or it could cause some issues.
18:13 I like a strategy but the strategy is if your disk is out of line and it's rubbing against it or you have to do is undo the two screws which is holding the caliper on the actual caliper mount across slightly this is why that face it isn't needed for it sometimes and looking at the resort lining it up but before lining it up you must spend the wheel reeling the disco's into mine done at the bottom bolt than the top bolt of the caliper Mount where the caliper it's mounted
Thank you for this well put together useful video. Two Qu, if you had not removed the plastic spacer at 12:30 would it not have fitted better at 20:30 ? and what is the typical import duty you have to pay on the motor and on the battery and is that paid to Royal Mail?
You buy these hub kits (and batteries) from UK-based chinese drop shippers, they 100% deal with importing and duties at their end. If you order a hub kit for £100 and a battery for £150, you will be paying £100 for the hub kit and £150 for the battery. All you need on top of that is a donor bike.
In regards to using washers to create a space so that the caliper and motor don't foul, does this not affect the alignment for the brake disc to slot into brake pads on the caliper??
That's looking nice Steve with the Maxis logo in white on the tires just makes the bike pop mind you you've got I good for these builds ye this is gunna be a sweet bike 👌
20:48 see me about the caliper hydraulic caliper out what you have to do is on do the caliper Mount which attaches onto it which is the actual bracket itself and then you move it side to side rock it off with the bottom very slightly the lock off for the top those signing into is very secure then lock it off completely with an allen key which is approximately 5 to 6 ml
Hello. I'm just in the process of fitting my Kirby kit and I've stupidly threaded the axle nut. The nut was catching my fork and cut into it i then couldn't get it off again so had to use an impact driver. Do you know what size the nuts are so I can buy another? Thanks Rich
I have an orbea laufey h30 and it’s a 12 speed cassette so will I need to fit my cassette into the ebike back wheel for it work? Because I have more gears than the 9 speed ebike wheel so if I go up to many gears will my chain jump off?
Thanks! I could not stand mismatched wheel sizes, and it was one of my upgrades in my last video. Do you have link to 2000W motor? It looks identical to my 1500w
The only problem with conversion kits, is that with how much it cost, just buy a brand new 'very nice' ebike!! And save yourself the hassle and headache of installing it, order wrong parts, missing parts .... etc.
Hi dude stuff I have installed a 2000w 52v motor to my bike conversion went perfect few days ago I installed a bike stand which caused one of the wires getting damaged giving me a code 3 error I fixed the wire issue but the code is not getting removed from the display screen I have disconnected all the cables and did a factory reset but still no luck how can I get the digital display to work
13:54 make sure you have a 2wire bms on the battery for regen braking. all of the cheap ebike batteries have 3 wire bms's which you should not use regen with
Can you expand? Do the motors always have 3 wires as shown? If so, how can you fit 3 wires to a 2 wire bms? (what is bms?) How do you choose a 2 wire bms battery? Do you recomend opening the battery hub using stator aid and refitting with a silicone seal under the hub nut flange?
If the rear wheel keeps popping out when you tighten the nut turn it right way up and get someone with a decent weight sit on the seat and retighten some bikes also need a spacer behind the cog to stop rubbings of the wheel
Mount your hub motor so wire is pointing mostly DOWNWARD, and leave small dip in wire before you strap it to bike frame. Reason is because you want any water or moisture to run off wire, and not towards axle of motor. Yes, the slant of dropout will prevent you from pointing wire to 6 o'clock, and that's why i said, mostly. But he's right about that zipper bag. Do not cover shell of motor controller. It acts as a heatsink for motor phase MOS-FETs (transistors). It needs air for cooling.
Great video, Steve. I've been thinking about a second conversion and it's been a while since the last. I shall be ordering from KirbEBike and making good use of your three part demonstration videos. Just lastly, what make and model of bike is the Giant you are working on? Also, do you have some recommendations on the best mountain bikes for e-bike conversion, please? Thanks a lot, mate, and all the best.
I got banned from driving for 1 year & needed solution to get to work (15 miles away) . That was wen I stumbled on Andy curby doing this . I now cummute to work everyday on ebike . Been though it all .
Spoke replacements , snapped throttle , controller fets shorted in rain .. best thing ever saved me a ton on money on petrol
Do you use a hub or mid drive kit? I’ll be cycling in rain and want best solution
How do you avoid theft of your bike?
@@ArthurTugwell it's a hub, tighten up goose
Anybody find that the wheel once fitted is more to one side than the other
I aswell use a 3000watt 72v . I get everywhere i need and really fast aswell ^^
I worked with a crew that fitted machinery worldwide. All our batteries had to be removed and put in to a marked padded fireproof case prior to travelling. Some really useful tips. Thanks for the video :)
Absolutely love the Kirby kits. I have a 500w rear hub diy kit and the install was pretty straight forward, had to test fit the wheel two or three times. I also ditched the bag and designed and 3d printed a bracket and integrated cable management box.
I made a custom torque bracket from 4mm stainless steel.
The 500w kit is all I ever need. Good power and pretty good range with the included battery 48v 13a.
Nice instructions not many go into detail about the washers.👍
What kinda range?
@@janeblogs324 About 35 km with throttle only.
Thats the kind of OCD that appeals to me! 🤣 Definitely interested in having a go at a project like this sometime soon...
He just resells ebike kits from aliexpress
What’s the throttle only speed?
Finally...
I've seen guys from cali messing with this hub motors years ago, and gosh they had some powerful ones.
Well done and explained.
13:00 yes when the wires touch you are actually completing a circuit on the coils this is reason why you have resistance which is only present in permanent magnet motors. If if was a induction motor you wont experience any resistance until you apply power to the coils.
Didn't know Jason Statham rode Ebikes? 😄 Even without converting the Giant Mtb looks Amazing. 👍
I feel like I should buy a bike off him or he will track me down, sleep with my girlfriend, crash my car than somehow make me kill myself.
👍👍👍😆
From tha dollar store
lmao
And he's British too!😊
I like these videos. The everyday use approach (obviously you don't need everything in the kit, if you don't want to).. and the subtle humor and throughness. One thing I would've liked to see was the casette/freewheel installation, and probably some mention of the hub spacing on MTB's (depending on the type of dropout), what you can do and what you can't do. There's plenty of videos on the tube about changing freewheel/casette for sure, but not many doing it on a 2kW hub motor.
I've got an MTB with QR dropouts and those only have 135mm spacing at the hub. It won't fit a motor like this and a 7 speed freewheel/casette I think.
Great video I've been doing diy electric bikes for 2 years with what I learn on UA-cam.
This video explains everything very well and makes like so much easier after watching this video.
Keep up the great work pal
@UK Outdoor Flowers 30mph plus is that safe with that gear cycle frame?
Thank you for making this video. I have been thinking about building my own electric bike and most videos are more like paid promotions and don't have a lot of actual advice in them. I would make one suggestion on buying the caliper space to the motor. They sell brake disc shims to go behind the rotor in 1mm increments. Use a rotor shim, and then you can adjust the caliper on the mount as they usually have some side to side adjustability to keep the pads evenly spaced on each side.
Just bought & fitted my first Kirkbe kit. Your advice on fitting washers to the cassette side of the wheel saved me from smashing the kit into a million pieces, in utter frustration! Thanks chap, top, top geeza!!! I agree about the PAS sensors too, can be a real pain to fit and using throttle only gives a much smoother ride.
You're welcome 😊
Nice walk through on the install. The only thing I would have done differently is using an old inner tube as protection of the frame where the jubilee clip is at. I also used old tubes to protect the frame from the chain and if you take your time wrapping the frame it actually can look good.
Agreed! Something else to keep in mind while ebiking is to wear the proper helmet, most helmets have an outdated safety standard, the best ones are the ones that pass the nta standard like xnito or bern hudson
Good idea. I was just gonna wrap some tape around the frame where the clip goes 🙂
How you explain to do the bike I think it's 100% correct I recommend you to anybody look at your videos
Great video, I done mine a few months ago and had the same issue with hydraulic brakes very close to the hub but the spacers done the trick.
Watched this video before I built an Ebike from a kit, saved me lots of time. I would not have known to remove the disk spacer, slotted right in. I built the bike in 1.5 hour.
I would also think that spreading the rear end with a washer may result in having to space the rear brake disc, or you might find it binding with the bake pads all in all a very good tutorial for beginners. ;-)
these kits are engineered for a "range" of different spacings for all of what might be available out there..they are kits>>.not for the feeble minded or bot it together rich kids...
Wayne the pro
Following this vid, my wheel has gone in easily - almost too easily :-) Everyhting lined up virtually straight away, seems solid.
I like how you minimalise it, using only the stuff you really need. Mine will be built the same style.
I learned a lot from this video, especially about installing the back wheels. Now I know why I started getting play when I fixed back wheel flats. Never used a hammer to fit it into the cassette.
This is excellent education. This chap is explaining everything he can think of.
Time for a rewatch as my kit arrives in a few days
Same here😂
The one thing I wish that these conversion kit manufacturers would do is make some kind of housing that can contain the controller and then the housing could bolt to the seat tube to secure it. That would make installing the kit much easier for the one installing the kit.
There are controller houses not the same manufacturer just order them online
Man, this is such an amazing tutorial. Because you go through all the troubleshooting as you go I love that. I really feel like I’m learning from you and I now have the confidence to take this project on! Thank you !!
finally, a no BS Channel cheers Dude will be soaking you're vids n knowledge of the Ebikes.
Well done Steve..this will help alot of people doing there diy builds. Some really good points there, a few important tips that for new builders can be a Real ball ache. 👍
appreciate the mention about the motor wires that the motor won't spin if they are touching, many people don't mention that. Thank you.
@DudeStuff Buddy these three ebike build videos are just awesome and will save a lot of new ebike builders time without the frustrations and headaches. The information on removing the plastic spacer behind the disc brake is so helpful along with the washer spacings for the dropout. I can wait to try my installation again when I have the opportunity!
Great video. Could not have done it without it. Covered all the nuances clearly and succinctly. Perfect.
11:43 there is another tip as well if you put your disc rotor on to the actual e-bike wheel vs you noticed there is a arrow pointing on the desk facing you apply your tyre which the arrow is facing the same way as the disc
Great video. In the near future I will build Kirbebike's 1500-2000w hub motor kit for my second bike. I just ordered it. My first conversion was a Bafang 750w mid kit. I drive it mostly in the forest and in the countryside. I got some good tips for the future conversion from your video👍
Best tutorial ever! Thanks bro for sharing allí this info with us, this Is the exact same kit I want to buy
That was very easy to understand, well done, your very professional in walking us through the process, thank-you
Please try to keep the explanation and words short so that the viewers do not get bored, we just want the way to install these pieces for bikes
Excellent tutorial video mate, that was soo straight forward and featured every tip you could ask for - top notch!
Thanks so much didn't expect such a great response it's nice
I would really recommend installing the pedal assist. Two advantages saving battery power and getting the exercise everyone needs. But if you are in top condition and still want to ride the bike as a normal bike you can of course But hey why not have a little assist by riding up hill and or wind in your face. The gears will definitely be helpful. Thanks for sharing from Mexico.
It's a good thing that you never get a flat or have to service the inner tube or tire. Especially out on the road. You would want to always keep your rubber mallet with you along with some extra zip ties. I'm not sure about the connections to the controller. Hopefully they are not too permanent as well.
For the flat part i would recommend indeed using double side velcro instead of zip ties so close to the axle.
Mate I love the walkthrough step by step so much detail put into it which makes it even better to understand thanks for that was amazing bro ’ll be doing as you say to build my own sometime when I get around to getting all the stuff when I have the money can’t wait to watch the rest bro thanks 🙌👌👍🤙😎😎
Nice to hear an Englishman doing one of these conversions. Most of them are from the US.
Cant wait to see it complete and riding to its top speed. Mine is only 500 watts and tops at 47 kph. At first i found the 47kph to be satisfyingly fast. Now, its not enough. Id want to go 60-70 kph if possible.
I use a mid drive on my MTB. I haven't modified anything but I hit 48MPH on flat. it's 1500w/48v. These bike just getting to be more and more fun.
Glad to see you were using flush cut cutters to trim the tails off the cable ties. The number of times I cringe when someone cuts off the cable tie tails leaving a 3 x 4mm razor sharp edge. I used to use thousands of cable ties at work and if we left any sharp edges we were in trouble from whoever cut themselves on them. By using those flush cut cutters with the flush side toward the head of the tie the tail gets cut flush with the surface leaving no sharp bit sticking out.
Thank you! Awesome guide, very detailed. Greetings from Ukraine!
Ive never done anything like this but have wanted desperately to get into it....I just need to take the plunge thanks for taking the time to methodically go through first stage. 👌🏻🔥👌🏻
how did it go?
Jeezus, for the first 5 seconds I seriously thought I was on Jason Statham’s channel!
😂cool
With that much power of speed on back wheel, do you think as time goes on the back frame will start breaking apart? Any speed over 20mph will be a rough ride if on roads regularly. It's extremely uncomfortable of the frame used for a powerful motor. I learn from experience to always use a 2 piece frame with dual shocks of front and back as in a hardtail frame. Other frames the speed over 20 mph and up will be a bit shaky at times when going over rough terrain, potholes, dips, bumps, ect.
Other factor is the condition of the back wheel will get roughed around of having no rear or hardtail shocks.
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Nice job save... you have to take in account of REAR flat tire... he has it nice and tight but that doesn't work out well once he gets a rear flat tire. I've rode my E-bike so much that I keep a repair kit on me to repair a flat to and from work. Gotten good enough I can usually to that repair within 20 minutes but the same note? I had my motor hub or the front and nine tenths of flats happen to the rear tire. Usually front tire pops up something sharp and REAR hits it. I'm going rear drive this build around... so I'm also going to go either with a solid tire or solid inner-tube because? I've had a day that was bad enough? I changed TWO flats in one day, new innertube and all and inspecting the tire itself to insure I did pull out the offending item that punctured my innertube. But even with the front mounted motor? I MADE SURE there was enough slack in the power cord leading to it? I could pull the wheel off enough to change the innertube. It's tricky but possible but ONLY if you leave enough slack with the power cable leading to the motor. He's got his power cable so snug to the motor... he is going to have to cut those zip ties to be able to get the tire FAR ENOUGH off the bike frame to change a flat. But besides that? Spot on nice and tight work! A little too tight in my opinion. Then again I use by bike to commune to work so I need the ability to fix a flat on the spot. You'd be surprised how fixing a flat for twenty minutes beats walking your bike home to fix it THEN spending that 20 minutes fixing it there.
Good video . Thanks.
I enjoyed the terminology differences between your location and mine. Eg: " Jubilee clip" where i am is called a " hose clamp".
Cheers!
i had an incident where the soft walled tire moved on the rim and tore the valve from the tube due to the higher speed from the rear wheel, the way to fix that problem is to coat the tube and tire with Talcum Powder, i use a small paint brush to coat the inside of the tire and rub the powder by hand to the tube, then just shake out any surplus powder from the tire, this method stops the tube sticking to the tire under load and works 100% , i now use Maxi Hookworm or Schwalbe wire rimmed tires with larger tubes and no mishaps re punctures or tire slippage, hope this helps.
Great video, so clear and realistic nice tip about not applying the brakes and locking up the pads.
those brake sensors are good for a sop brake light set up and the PAS not bad to give tomb a break and for more pedaling
My Giant Talon 29er from 2012 has three front cogs and eight cogs on the rear hub. Do I need to switch to a single cog on the front to convert with the Kirby kit?
No bro you don't need to do that it's even better with three cogs cuz you can pedals normally when you use pedal assist don't spend your money good luck
I went for the front wheel option. More weight on the front in crap weather and no friction involved. Bit like a front wheel drive car, it will pull the steering out of trouble.
High power front hubs are sketchy they can slide out from underneath on turns in wet weather, unlike a car that won't fall over. The dropouts on most forks aren't great for over 1000w imo. Feels really weird dropping off a kerb on front wheel power as it loses momentum instantly as the front leaves the ground.
This was an awesome video!!! Iv watched other videos about such and dudestuff actually answered some of the questions I had! We will see if I can make it look as smooth
Just done a 500 w Kirby kit with mtx wheel for going to work on a cheap bike and highly recommended I'm a big fella pulls me okay and plenty fast very easy to do. love the video's
Clued up and well presented, I'm going to go on to your ''It's finished video'' next as I want to see it complete.
Thanks for the learning curve. Now I can be a first time expert. That brake spacer would have been cut into tiny pieces after it came off if I had to figure that out the hard way. when did they start using USA sirens over there?
thanks m8, i found this upload better than most for me, showing problems you might have.
Thank you for this video is the best i have seen yet for these conversions. Very detailed. No bs.
Braz your the real transporter gonna cop a kit and follow in your footsteps only just begun in OZ
Thanks for your clips real gent shit 🙏
DS, love the break down. I know most of this is simple knowledge for regular riders, but you do well at making sure a novice will understand. I won't thumbs down you because it's too simple.
i like your video and I am by no means an expert on this subject couple of things the color black as in the speed controller keeps the heat in white and silver reflects heat also if that case is alloy it looks to be the paint will peal off there is a special process for painting alloy called etching i only know this because i did work in a powder coating company and we did coat alot of alloy if not done correctly well you will see otherwise very informative video
Mate this is amazing vid so much detail and not skiping a single step wish more tutorials where like this
Thank you 😊
Yeah great video dude. First timer here. Great coverage of small details. Love the smart casual dress code too.
brilliant every step explaination along with quality video footage from you both.. THANKS DUDE
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By the looks of it, this clip saving a bunch of headaches, pretty much mandatory viewing if contemplating this kit....
Great video for a person like myself considering going electric.
Just an excellent teacher! You communicate all the essential things with no needless asides or distracting background music. Thank you very much!
You're welcome just uploaded 2023 version of this video
I'd probably spray the controller white. Even a fine layer of black will cause the part to absorb heat. Seen tests done on intercoolers with white black and bare metal and the white wins.
I'm looking to convert my bike. I've got a 10 or 11 speed derailleur. Can I just use the travel stop screw to limit my gear changer?
Wont adding the washer to the drive side just move the caliper ?
Will it now grab the disc on the inside as its not central?
You might aswell throw everything in the bin you’re hardly using anything 😂😂
Hi ho from australia,beautiful job of quality fitting,i,m going to re name you roger rolex,swiss quality job.love the use of the zip ties,neat quality job,why not!! Looks great,goes great.also great tip thinking ahead putting allen key head out,hold nut at back.you set a high standard of quality and attention to detail.plenty of people pay for that attention to detail.good stuff nice to see ,"doing the right thing".thanks for the lesson,cheers
Thanks for that is really clear and your experience of pitfalls was excellent 👍
Hello dude stuff how long does it take for the battery to arrive after the motor because the motor arrives a couple days ago and I’m just curious how long it’s going to take for the battery to arrive thanks
Anything from a couple of days to just over a week from my own experience
@@DudeStuff thanks
Another quick question when is your next conversation video I can’t wait I just enjoy watching the process of building it if you are going to build one I will be building the specialised rockhopper sport with the 2000w kit so I would appreciate you doing that bike so if you run into any problem or issues I will know how to resolve them as you would have done it in the tutorial. Thanks
How long do these kits last, before the motor or controller or something dies and one's forced to buy a whole brand new one or are they modular?
Interested in doing my own 1st conversion after looking at what's on the market; all low-spec and high-price factory-made. But, one thing I was told is that the conversion kits don't last and that it's better to buy a proper made one. Thoughts?
Lol who told you they don't last? So a friend told you they last but a shop bought bike with electrics is magically better? Dude they last fine I've never had an issue in 2 years and 40+ conversions
@@DudeStuff awesome...that's very reassuring.
Yea, they were selling factory-made ones, so, there was the obvious bias of self-interest but it did make me wonder. I thought it possible to imagine that a kit added to a bicycle is not the same as something purpose-made for a specific bike; that these kits just die off and need replacing soon enough. After all I have no experience or knowledge of their quality. All I know is that they all come from China. So, do Apple phones, so the old prejudices no longer apply - they can make cheap or expensive things. Anyway, thank you for sharing your experience. It gives me confidence moving forward.
Are there any brands that you recommend more over others. I don't know the hierarchy of quality except I see a recurring number of few brands on eBay. Voilmart, famex, and a couple others I can't remember just now.
I was drawn to famex 1500W with internal controller for the sleeker look with a Panasonic 52V 20ah battery or higher if I can find one.
I'm in London and making a conversion with delivery work in mind and range is number1 consideration and speed number 2.
My wheel kept coming out. Now I use a steel frame and it will never get lose again. Kinda scared now to use alu frame somehow. My frame in the back was also not wide enough so that caused the issue as well but be aware that washers need 2 fit perfectly in the dropout or it could cause some issues.
Nice little step by step Steve 👍
18:13 I like a strategy but the strategy is if your disk is out of line and it's rubbing against it or you have to do is undo the two screws which is holding the caliper on the actual caliper mount across slightly this is why that face it isn't needed for it sometimes and looking at the resort lining it up but before lining it up you must spend the wheel reeling the disco's into mine done at the bottom bolt than the top bolt of the caliper Mount where the caliper it's mounted
My wheel axle is too big to fit on my dropout do you suggest me to file down the dropout?
Thank you for this well put together useful video. Two Qu, if you had not removed the plastic spacer at 12:30 would it not have fitted better at 20:30 ? and what is the typical import duty you have to pay on the motor and on the battery and is that paid to Royal Mail?
You buy these hub kits (and batteries) from UK-based chinese drop shippers, they 100% deal with importing and duties at their end. If you order a hub kit for £100 and a battery for £150, you will be paying £100 for the hub kit and £150 for the battery. All you need on top of that is a donor bike.
I thought accelerators were illegal in the UK. Good to see someone who's done it before.
Straight to the point no bollocks bosch! Nice one feller.
These hub motors look good. Nice long axle. Nothing is worse than an axle that’s too short.
In regards to using washers to create a space so that the caliper and motor don't foul, does this not affect the alignment for the brake disc to slot into brake pads on the caliper??
Acting innocent with all those sirens going off. Legend!!
That's looking nice Steve with the Maxis logo in white on the tires just makes the bike pop mind you you've got I good for these builds ye this is gunna be a sweet bike 👌
20:48 see me about the caliper hydraulic caliper out what you have to do is on do the caliper Mount which attaches onto it which is the actual bracket itself and then you move it side to side rock it off with the bottom very slightly the lock off for the top those signing into is very secure then lock it off completely with an allen key which is approximately 5 to 6 ml
Hello. I'm just in the process of fitting my Kirby kit and I've stupidly threaded the axle nut. The nut was catching my fork and cut into it i then couldn't get it off again so had to use an impact driver. Do you know what size the nuts are so I can buy another? Thanks Rich
I don't know the size I'd either get a vernier to figure it out or try a tap and die set to retread it. Good luck
Great informative video.I have never had an e bike and am looking at options,so i am glad i found your channel.
I have an orbea laufey h30 and it’s a 12 speed cassette so will I need to fit my cassette into the ebike back wheel for it work? Because I have more gears than the 9 speed ebike wheel so if I go up to many gears will my chain jump off?
Great video very informative I'm thinking about getting one of these kits soon, so this was very helpful. 👍
A really good video with all the pitfalls pointed out.
Thanks! I could not stand mismatched wheel sizes, and it was one of my upgrades in my last video. Do you have link to 2000W motor? It looks identical to my 1500w
The only problem with conversion kits, is that with how much it cost, just buy a brand new 'very nice' ebike!! And save yourself the hassle and headache of installing it, order wrong parts, missing parts .... etc.
Been looking for this for ages…great instructions thanks
Hi dude stuff I have installed a 2000w 52v motor to my bike conversion went perfect few days ago I installed a bike stand which caused one of the wires getting damaged giving me a code 3 error I fixed the wire issue but the code is not getting removed from the display screen I have disconnected all the cables and did a factory reset but still no luck how can I get the digital display to work
13:54 make sure you have a 2wire bms on the battery for regen braking. all of the cheap ebike batteries have 3 wire bms's which you should not use regen with
Can you expand? Do the motors always have 3 wires as shown? If so, how can you fit 3 wires to a 2 wire bms? (what is bms?) How do you choose a 2 wire bms battery? Do you recomend opening the battery hub using stator aid and refitting with a silicone seal under the hub nut flange?
If the rear wheel keeps popping out when you tighten the nut turn it right way up and get someone with a decent weight sit on the seat and retighten some bikes also need a spacer behind the cog to stop rubbings of the wheel
Awesome!
Straightforward first class demo👍
Mount your hub motor so wire is pointing mostly DOWNWARD, and leave small dip in wire before you strap it to bike frame. Reason is because you want any water or moisture to run off wire, and not towards axle of motor. Yes, the slant of dropout will prevent you from pointing wire to 6 o'clock, and that's why i said, mostly. But he's right about that zipper bag. Do not cover shell of motor controller. It acts as a heatsink for motor phase MOS-FETs (transistors). It needs air for cooling.
Great video, Steve. I've been thinking about a second conversion and it's been a while since the last. I shall be ordering from KirbEBike and making good use of your three part demonstration videos. Just lastly, what make and model of bike is the Giant you are working on? Also, do you have some recommendations on the best mountain bikes for e-bike conversion, please? Thanks a lot, mate, and all the best.
giant talon 2
Talon 3
@@ilpxxv1148i jsut got a Talon 1 and i love it
Police are cracking down now on these kits. Any way to install a "road legal mode where throttle turns off and wheel doesn't get assist over 15mph?
Coincidentally we have siren sounds at the beginning of the video!
Yes that is the speed limit settings. You can set a max speed and/or pedal assist levels. Each level of PA can serve as either power or speed limit.
Love this , dude - defo thinking of going electric!
You'll love it! I just made my first build!! Check it out?