1948 Caterpillar D8 First Start 2012
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- Cranking over the pony motor and lugging the big diesel to life for the first time since about August last year, then taking her out for a quick stroll. This Cat originally belonged to the Rocky View County shops for use when large objects needed a little tractive persuasion. Pioneer Acres Museum, Irricana, Alberta.
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This man looks like my Dad who passed in 2000. He loved the big Cats and tinkering with motors of all kinds. I come back every so often just to watch this video. His movements, body language, hat and clothes all makes me smile.
Thats so wonderful this evokes a memory. Im glad you liked it.
Great old D8, first one I ever ran was 60s vintage. Guys who learned on these older machines had to develop a touch that probably doesn't happen in air conditioned, quiet cabs and feather touch controls. Or maybe just develop a different kind of feel for things. In my opinion, if you could cut a decent road and grade in one of these, you were an operator deserving of respect.
Absolutely, it is a skill that just isn't found in fly-by-wire controls nowadays.
man oh man wonderful memories watching my father start up a D8 early in the morning the sound of the gas engine with the straight pipe would always kinda scare me a little , but what a treat it was to ride in it seating next to my dad and he would let me stear that beast, i grew up in the Imperial Valley . thanks for sharing gentlemen
Thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed.
mario zermeno .
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Wow, I got two stories in one video.
Thanks.
Wonderful machine. It always amazes me that that little pony motor is so much louder than the big, unmuffled diesel it's attached to.
Yeah, I think some were silenced though.
The world will truly be sadder and poorer place when the old hands who can make these old machines talk and sing are gone.
It's always fascinating starting up those old diesels. I grew up around Cats, Internationals and John Deeres, and spent my entire career working on them. It's funny how I never get tired of watching or even going through the procedure myself. I might add here that I attend the Pioneer Acres annual show every year and always look forward to it, just to see these old workhorses run....
lovely old tractor, I operated a D8 gate change and an old D8 2U in the 1970's pulling scoops on earthmoving jobs around the north island of New Zealand, there is still to this day the odd D8 2U pulling scoops...I mean no disrespect, but I would never crank the pilot motor like that, just use your 4 fingers on your right hand around the crank handle so if it backfires it will just pull out of your fingers and not brake your thumb or hand...
You can see the look on those old guys face, it's like it takes them back when they was young working on the farm with Grandpa and dad......
I remember my dad found both of his in a scrap yard drove one out pulled the other sadly the Motor was blown on the one while it was trying to be stolen the other was whisked away where we don’t know but I’ll always remember the that popping pony and the rumble of the big Diesel will always be a big part of my childhood and it is where I learned my passion for heavy machinery
This machine seems to strike a chord with a lot of folks, that makes me really happy.
Thanks for bringing back some great memories of my Grandpa’s D7, D4 and JD420 crawlers all backed into an open faced shed just like that. My favorite childhood memories involved that farm, shed and crawlers.
Thanks so much, glad you enjoyed.
Those Pony motors are all noisy and then the sweet purr of that big diesel. I love the 3 cylinders of the D4 too.
Yeah, smooth runners.
The D82U is a grunt machine with a full blade.
My Dad bought one of these, to pull over big ol' pine trees, that His D7T could only frighten
Brings back memories- Started leveling land in Nor Cal in 1972 running one of these 2U D8s pulling a Cat 21 scraper. Love the sound of the pony motor. And I see the oil bath air cleaner! These had a dry clutch and had that distinct odor if the clutch got loose and started slipping. Also, it had no hydraulic assist on the steering frictions, so by the end of the day, your arms were tired. The joke was you could spot a 2U D8 operator because his hands would drag the ground when he walked. And also no lubricated tracks so they were noisy as hell.
I changed employers. Old machine was a late model d8 all power assist. New machine was a D4. No power assist . Next morning, when I awaken I could not move. .... Sore all over.
Thanks for the great posting! I used to drive an old early '50's Cat D-8- 2U back in the late 1960's. She was a real workhorse. I still love the "big iron".
Thanks, she is dearly loved around here.
That's a big engine.
Thats the slidebar model is it not
I must say, It put a tear in my eye to see that ol girl come to life. Loved every second of it !
Thank you, glad you enjoyed.
There is one of those sat in a hedge near my house in Hampshire... been there for 15 years.... massive great beast, I wish the owner would let me have her.
she wanted to do more!
Toys like that keep old boys young. Happy New Year.
Absolutely, and a very Happy New Year to you as well.
What a smooth running diesel ! But, OH my, what a racket from that pony motor......'oh for a muffler ' !!
Reg Sparkes I was watching a video an abandoned d8 was in the forest and they started it with no muffler on the engine but in the comments it was said these are quiet running once the pony motor is turned off and I see that is very true nice machine
It took me a while to realize that's what was running at first...
That machine was built the year I was born and still looks great.It was interesting to see how it was started though.
Thanks.
Need to tell the guy cranking that pony motor to only pull on crank it wont break his arm that way . All it takes is a wet mag to backfire
It has a pretty decent under carriage, which appears to still be pretty capable of hard pulling, or pushing, without jumping the sprocket. Very nice.
Old men have no fear of big machinery ; only respect!
Heck yeah.
Wow watching 3 generations of men help that old girl come life.... Wow awesome stuff, you know she worked some long days
These are the dozers that were used to build Americas highway system. My Grandfather was general foreman of construction on 22 miles of the Ohio Turnpike. He talked about using D8 Cats as part of equipment roster.
Amazing! the looks on the old boys faces as they care for the old CAT
That thing is a BEAST! You are literally sitting on a couch
Takes 2 to operate?
Lucia Conn nope only 1
That old D-8 is as old as I am, but it sure run better.
Aw, just think of it this way, you where both built to last👌
that d8 is in really good shape. you can not beat a cat motor
Amazing considering it is unrestored, original.
some times that pony motor kicks back , if you had it happen to you , the memory is ever lasting
Couldn't arm wrestle that and not be careful
That little pony engine makes some noise. Good thing it don’t have to stay running very long it would drive you nuts 🥜.
Yeah it has a heck of a rap to it.
The only pony. Starter. I had. On 8. Cat. Was. A. Gas. Starter with. A chutch to the cat motor
I love watching your 1948 caterpillar D8. I believe it can still be used for some commercial work today.
Your right, in fact it is still owned by the county on the off chance they need a little ultra heavy pulling done.
Thanks. Hope we can be in touch again.
Old is gold. Hmmmm what a emission of that vintage engine
Surprisingly clean.
Yes" I thought that there may have been a problem...When I was starting one every day, I got to know the motor really well and it normally only took one crank and it was going.
I still work in the earthmoving industry in Western Australia, operating excavators and dozers. My favourite dozers are the D6, D8 & D10 T models..and favourite excavator is anything with Komutsu stamped on it. Anyway, Cheer,s From Kalgoorlie Western Australia.
I donated a D-7/ 3-T like this to a ranch that I was doing some work for. One morning the starter ring broke and was not worth time cost to fix, Probably still sitting out there on the fenceline 20 years later!
Sadly, parts for the starting systems are hard to come by on these units.
Not to sound rude but how hard would it be to take one apart and recast the parts of a good motor?
Tim Forbrook Expensive but not impossible!
David Markham i can believe that and here's where I'm going with it in my mind would rather spend the extra money to have a few extra parts on hand rather than trying to fix the impossible
Tim Forbrook I often wonder if that old tractor is still there but I am retired now and have no use for it anymore.
At the time I found that I could lease a new machine for 8500$ a month that could surpass it in power and comfort which is what I did till retiring .
It was quite a machine though to operate!
I had no idea these started with a pony motor. Great video. Well, back to the tier 4 engines of today. Was giving me some trouble with the DEF injector.
Gotta love the DEF always breaking.
I ran one of these pulling a disk on a dirt job in 1974. Thanks for posting.
What a nice sound (the diesel, not the pony!).
to start a 1948 cat you need an operator from 1948? ha ha just kidding i love this stuff my dad worked on heavy machinery all his life..still has 2 farmals we restored from the ground up. i'm a motorcycle mechanic. love machines they are the only sense of order in all this chaos we call our universe
nott tellingyou Truer words never spoken, love the Farmall's, got one myself. Thanks for watching.
Most of my live on plant hire and to here that old donkey engine start up then kick in assume. Brings back allot of memories. for 70years old she's in good nick. Thanks foe the video.
She had a pretty good life, now she enjoys retirement all the while pleasing crowds.
Wish I was closer to your museum, you guys look like you have quite the collection of equipment!
This is a museum piece that should be cared for by future generations in this manner...Took a real man to run one of these,not like the push button ones of today,we're a three year old can run it...NO NO!!.
4 gauge - Let’s be honest; you could probably teach a little kid to run one of these things. The whole point of them is that they’re as tough and simple as a sledge hammer.
Let the elders do it they are the masters of the old timer things
I loved watching this video, thanks for posting. Could be totally wrong but I get the impression the D8 is worked hard but constantly maintained. Maybe he's just a collector, who knows? Loved it anyway. Cheers from Australia.
Hello there from Canada, this D8 was actually used by the local county until fairly recently despite it's age, so they did great work maintaining it and shedding it every night.
@@Rainhill1829 thanks for the heads up. G'day!
1948 Caterpillar D8 starting!! what a beautiful sound. :-)
I have no idea why UA-cam brought me here. I am not even sure what that machine is, but now I want one !!!!!!
Well then, welcome to Gearhead Alley.
Sweet music to my ears, gentlemen.
374 tree huggers died watching this starting procedure.
Gotta love the guy sitting in the seat covering his ears, while the old dude standing right next to the motor is not, haha!
hugolafhugolaf Good times.
Built less than two years after I was born. What a beauty!
Purring just like a baby kitten. I was nine when it was made, love to have one. With the footprint I could aerate the lawn.
My father was born in 1938 tells me stories on the farm, bet you have some you share.?
It is my understanding that she can kick like a mule during the start?? Got to be careful with the starting rod, yes??? Nice restoration and nice machine.
So, I don’t know a whole hell of a lot about these old cat motors. I do know that a cold D6600 in the RD-6 had to be turned over by the pony under full compression for at least a minute or two to heat the block up enough to start the motor. Did the -2U have glowplugs that enabled it to start from cold so quickly?
TheTomyossarian that’s generally what winter is like. This video was uploaded in May so I’m guessing the block was mostly warm from the temperature outside.
Sounds solid for old dog I am sure it could work a rough day like all ways
I do believe sir that you are confusing your animals. Its a Cat, not a dog 😉
came back to watch your video great memories of my dad , always
That is wonderful to hear, thanks for watching.
I spent many many hours on one of these or several of them was a great machine and durable never break down very often burn lots of fuel though, but it had power to knowend👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Absolutely! Their contribution to our current highway system alone is incredible.
nice! she's had a good life, looks to be in fine shape. someone loved her...
Yep, all original believe it or not.
66 years old and still plenty of life left - looks kinda new!
She is well taken care of... and rarely worked hard.
love watching them start. my father had a D8 with a pony motor.
Glad you enjoyed.
Wow, that thing is beast!
That man standing on the tracks while the motor is running looks like something that could have ended on liveleaks.
I see you are a man of good tastes
Mate I don't think you know how tractors work, because there was absolutely no chance of that thing moving anywhere
True, gotta be sure she is in neutral before cranking.
That's one beautiful machine! Some serious skills needed to operate that badboy huh? Looked like quite a bit going on in the drivers seat... very cool vid, those old machines are amazing.
Lots of levers, she demands some skill.
That was just an appetizer. I was ready for a longer video. Really like the old iron.
For sure, I will have more of her in action in the future.
I'm ten years younger than Great-Grandpa there, and I can't bend my knees like that!
Those two old farmers are probably in their late 40s.
Lol.
I had a few kick backs from that handle start, and know some had broken arms, if everything was in good order it only took two cranks and it was away (High compression on the donkey motor).
These old machines just work.
Guy on top speaking to the guy on the track:
Damn, that pony motor is loud!....WHAT!?
Is it time to crank the diesel?....WHAT!?
Ok, I'm gonna to try and crank it....WHAT!?
Hey, she's runnin' pretty good....WHAT!?
Ok, get down, I'm gonna move it out....WHAT!?
That old CAT sure ran like a watch earlier today, didn't it?....WHAT!?
Well.….I thought it was funny.
Yep the pony moter makes it easy to start. Impressive machine.
In 1960's it was my job to start (9 at the time) similar start procedure except the starter motor used a pull cord to start it (it didn't like cold mornings or wet days sometimes had to take the spark plug out and put petrol down the spark plug hole to get it going always love hearing the main motor fire up.Dad use to park up a steep hill blade up in gear brakes locked, in the morning put in reverse release brakes pull the clutch in when oil pressure up and kick start the main engine great vid.
Man I love Caterpillars, but I gotta say we had a 1938 IHC td 18 and it makes this look like something out of the Flintstones.
Yeah I've heard they where advanced designs.
I have had both cat and td 14 and td 18 ihc crawlers are junk my d7 did most of my land clearing with no breakdowns ihs were always brokedown
Wilma McDermott What problems did you have exactly? Ours had over 40000 hrs and only had cylinder sleeves and clutch replacement.
@@interman7715 from hyd pumps cracked heads bearings in final drives water pumps rollers aluminum bushings in rollers breaking up and falling apart cracked final drive housings just about anthing u can think of just a good lower end in motor is all i can say the rest was fucking junk my d7 17A cleared mor land in 6 years than ihs cleared i 14 yers
@@interman7715 40000 i dont think so my father in law liked his 18 babyed it had new sleaves pistons and bearings rebuilt the trans and both final drive v it took 20 years fof fixin that shit to clear 160 achers of land
Great work guys, my unk had a D9 on the farm, fearsom noise with straight out pipes.
Loved that old thing, Yous brings back memories. Tell me thw blade was operated by winch not hydraulics if I remember.
what a kick ass job, start up and drive old machine all day! sign me up!!!
Volunteer's always welcome, good times had by all :)
Ear defenders and miss listening to that ,dont think so,nice work lads from uk
memories of my dad's cat in Edmonton, when he worked for the city laying sewer and water line's, thought thinking his was a D6 model, worked on it until the early '70's
What a job that must have been, especially in the winter.
And if you've ever been in Edmonton's winter's, grew up seeing -50 + winter's, yet he did this in a open cab Cat, for 26 year's.
Kevin Millar Oh yes I believe, I just spent a week in Edmonton, she was cold.
Kevin Millar If you at least had a rops on it then you can tarp it up and be really quite warm with engine heat blowing back at you.
It only took 64 years of cranking on that starter to fire up this beast!
it just fired up the pup motor lol
Nice old tractor winter is not to rought in your place nice video thank sir!
Wow,what a "work of art" to start but well worth it, glad the old girls still running.....
I works with the RD8 made 1935!!!.... it needs two men for drive bulldower.... wonderfull..
Real men at work!
Old timers and kick ass old tractors....a dying breed
Filmed in Irricanna Alberta Canada. I believe during pioneer days. I recognized the fellow starting it.
Nailed it.
Darn I'm in Chestermere Alberta, I'll be going next year with dad.
Awesome, see you there.
Nothing like a big old diesel coming to life!
Bringing back a lot of memories
Damn thay had to have that little engine rapped out just to fire up the big boy. DAMN.
That little engine also would heat the engine oil to the big engine and circulate it,which was handy in the winter time during arctic weather conditions when it was like minus 40 below zero,it would heat the engine oil up before the big diesel would start.
The next 17 words the mechanic said was, "what? what? what? ..."
Awesome diesel sound!!! :-)
Nothing like a large displacement naturally aspirated diesel.
YEAH! :-)
Music to my ears, wonderful.
Thanks.
the pony motor sounds much louder than the diesel engine,and i hadnt see if the diesel has a muffler.Good machine.
She was loud.
Sehr schönes Video, sehr schöne Maschinengeräusche, danke, weiter so!
Danke.
I see over and over again the same mistake when starting old cat diesels having pony motors. The pony motor was designed to have the same water system as the diesel and the pony motor's exhaust runs through the diesel's head. Because the old cat diesel motors are of LOW compression, they will not start until warm. The pony motor should be run, at average temperatures, for at least five minutes and as long as 20 minutes in winter. The diesel will then start immediately. But no, these people insist on wearing out the starting gears.
True, but I sure as heck wasnt going to tell those old timers how to do their job.😂
Hand crank billy goat. Oh the memories...
wow, that thing's a beast.
Lots of iron.
Nice machine!
The first two D-8's were made in 1938, they went to Fort Know where they build a runway.
Cool.
GOOD OL BOYS AT WORK..WHAT A BEAST!! THANKS FOR POSTING..
Dad had the same tractor on our Farm in Pahokee, Florida.
What a beast!
Trabalhai algum tempo com esse tipo de trator, quando vi o rapaz dando partida no motor auxiliar de manivela, lembrei de um amigo que foi lançado para o outro lado do trator devido a um contra produzido pelo magneto um pouco fora de ponto. Ele quase morreu não fosse atendido rapidamente. Esse tipo de partida dos motores caterpillar, mostraram-se muito perigosos.
¡Vaya, eso da miedo!
Amazing machine.
Theirs somthing about watching old timers doing their thing with old equipment
They know them best.
I would like to have commentary on the starting proceedure prior to starting. To include the pony engine.
I will try to set up a startup session the next time she is out.
Pony exhaust is pointing straight to the guys head. Nice design.
Actually you can see it pointing straight up out of the hood just in front of the air cleaner. It is routed through the intake manifold to preheat the incoming air, sort of a pre glowplug feature.
***** thanks for explaining it.
***** Daddy had a RD-8 from the '30s, serial # was like 2006 I think ( I was around 12). The pony was cranked from the front,you had to climb over the blade to get to it. Also the pony had a common water jacket with the diesel. In the winter, start the pony and let it run a couple minutes. Next put pony tranny in low and turn the diesel over for about 5 minutes to get oil loosened up. Next was put pony in high gear and the compression release half way,( it had 3 settings 0-1/2- full). Let it run another couple minutes until water temp started moving up,throw comp to full, throw the fuel leveron and it was running on the first revolution. We had a Letourneau cable pan from a D-7 on it. That would give you a workout!
Yes indeed, this one has the casting hole for the front start crank but it is not fitted, I believe it was an option. This one shares coolant with the main engine as well, but we don't often cold start it. I have seen pictures of units used in the war with the front start, I wonder if this was to keep personnel out of the line of enemy fire? Fascinating machines none the less.
The pony motor starting is definitely a forgotten skill
Saw one a lot like that one only older (1938 if memory serves) over by Stevens Point, WI about 20 years ago. Probably still for sale.
Parent of Twins where and how much ??