Triple Expansion Marine Steam Engine on the Icebreaker Stettin

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  • Опубліковано 24 вер 2024

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  • @Genius_at_Work
    @Genius_at_Work  День тому +8

    I don't agree with UA-cam hiding Dislikes; 741 Likes, 4 Dislikes, 2024-09-24. Just so you know what to expect of this Video.
    So here's a quick FAQ that I saw in the first Comments popping up:
    Where is the Ship located? Mostly at the Övelgönne Museum Ship Harbour in Hamburg-Neumühlen, Germany. It sails from early May until mid September, which also includes visiting other Ports along the German North Sea and Baltic Sea Coast.
    How is Feed Water produced? Not at all; there is no Desalination Plant because the Stettin was never intended for Voyages longer than a few Days, so Feed Water is just bunkered from Shore.
    How is the Ash disposed? As of now, it is dumped overboard with an Ejector, but that might change in the next Years due to enviromental Concerns. Hence I don't show the Ejector in the Video, I actually did initially but removed it to keep the Video under 25 Minutes.
    Why is Steam Expansion divided over three Cylinders? Steam cools down as it expands in the Cylinders, hence the Cylinder has a Temperature somewhere around the middle between the hot Steam coming in and cold(er) Steam going out. Dividing the Expansion over multiple Cylinders reduces this Temperature Gradient, and thus less Heat is wasted on "heating" the Cylinder when hot Steam enters it.
    Is the Crew paid? No, all unpaid Volunteers, just like I do on the Museum Ship Cap San Diego, which is located in Hamburg too.
    But isn't the SS Badger larger? Yes, that's why I mentioned it in the Video with the Explanation that it has Mechanical Stokers.

    • @colinsmith6340
      @colinsmith6340 День тому +2

      Its 13 now, but i have no idea why. I absolutely love your videos. Seeing old school technology still goin well. Love, sweat and tears. Seeing the steam motor providing power was honestly suprising, i would have thought that for at least "modern" AC power they would use a diesel genset, but no, this old girl is still entirely steam driven. An absolute work of art.

    • @Genius_at_Work
      @Genius_at_Work  День тому +1

      @@colinsmith6340 Nope, still at 2; these Browser AddOns are not that accurate and mostly exaggerate. Reason is that UA-cam removed Dislikes entirely from the API, so a Browser AddOn can't use any Data from UA-cam at all. They can only measure Dislikes by Users who have the AddOn installed, and then scale that Like-Dislike-Ratio up to the total Number of Likes. I'd guess they mostly exaggerate Dislikes because Users who have such an AddOn installed are more likely to hit dislike than those who don't; why would one even bother to dislike at all if it doesn't seem to have any Effect anyway?

  • @gman6081
    @gman6081 День тому +9

    Wow! The amount of mechanical engineering in this ship is absolutely amazing.
    It must be utilized to teach and also be preserved.

  • @jimprice1959
    @jimprice1959 День тому +19

    Great explanations. It's nice to see videos with good explanations taken by someone who knows something about which he is shooting.

  • @musiqtee
    @musiqtee День тому +6

    I have only operated some, and seen many small or replica model steam engines, just to in awe have _some_ understanding of how this large, complex and brilliant machinery works as numerous interdependent systems. Co-operated by so many skilled individuals in unison!
    My grandfather (mom’s dad) was a senior machinist on large ships from ca 1937 until 1966, and passed away that year as I was about 7 months old. This video brought me closer to what he may have experienced than any presentation I’ve ever seen.
    Kudos to all who carry forth the practical knowledge and sheer willpower to keep Stettin a monument to what once was leading everyday technology for trade, travel and sadly also our world in conflict.
    I’m deeply moved by all of the above. My deepest thanks for sharing, and my greetings from Norway. 💛

  • @toddledford9245
    @toddledford9245 День тому +6

    This is an excellent, informative video of older steam technology before its pinnacle. Thank you for a well thought, educational video with supporting annotations!

  • @voneschenbachmusic
    @voneschenbachmusic 2 дні тому +12

    Very detailed - thank you! Love all of the other small steam engines doing work all over the ship.

  • @P61guy61
    @P61guy61 2 дні тому +12

    Thank you for sharing this. I am happy to see a ship like this being preserved.

  • @frankgaletzka8477
    @frankgaletzka8477 День тому +3

    Das ist Maschinenbau vom feinsten.
    Wissen das droht verloren zu gehen.
    Danke das sie versuchen es zu erhalten.
    Grüsse aus dem Harz

  • @joebarrett4353
    @joebarrett4353 2 дні тому +9

    What an amazing piece of engineering. And very detailed video. thanks

  • @P61guy61
    @P61guy61 2 дні тому +7

    Thank you for both metric and imperial measurements.

  • @1947acw
    @1947acw 2 дні тому +8

    Brought back memories, of when i worked as a fireman, on the harbour Tug's, in Cape town 1960's. The only difference is, the ash was loaded into hoppers at the side, with a lid on it, and then discharged into the sea, by water pressure.

    • @Genius_at_Work
      @Genius_at_Work  2 дні тому +1

      That's how it's done here too. I actually recorded that, but didn't use the Footage. Reason is that it's an ongoing Discussion if dumping Ash overboard needs to stop due to enviromental Concerns, meaning to say it may change in the next Years.

  • @alanbrown9178
    @alanbrown9178 22 години тому +1

    Good video and first-class explantion.
    I was a (steam) marine engineer during the 60s and 70s and I had one steam recip ship in the early 1970s. At high revs (76rpm!) it threw out oil everwhere and I got soaked without fail! It was great experience though, which I wouldn't have missed, before going back to turbine ships afterwards.
    Thanks for posting such great memories.

  • @jiyushugi1085
    @jiyushugi1085 День тому +1

    Truly an infernal machine. Human ingenuity knows no bounds.

  • @daviddowning5632
    @daviddowning5632 День тому +2

    How amazing footage and clear description of quite a complex set up. Triple expansion engines were the zenith before turbines. This should be compulsory viewing for all kids(and big ones).thank you.

  • @alanmitchell7322
    @alanmitchell7322 2 дні тому +10

    Brings back alot of good memories. Great vidio and well exsplaned.

  • @rmactvc
    @rmactvc День тому +2

    Amazing. I enjoyed seeing all the different auxiliary systems and how they worked!

  • @navelriver
    @navelriver 2 дні тому +4

    Excellent explanation of the machinery, easy to understand! I love icebreakers and I love steam engines!

  • @FransKarmelk
    @FransKarmelk День тому +3

    In winter 1962-1963 she was ice breaking on the river Elbe, we were frozen in the port of Cuxhaven for 6 weeks, extreme cold weather

  • @marysalerno467
    @marysalerno467 23 години тому +1

    Operating without reduction gears and CPP....Bravo!

  • @bakunin-rc5pq
    @bakunin-rc5pq 7 годин тому

    A wonderful film with detailed explanations of all parts and their functions
    Thank you very much.
    The perfect addition to a visit to the ship.
    And as a lucky Hamburg resident I can do that in style by taking ferry 62 from Altona to Neumühlen.
    By the way, the elderly still say "take the steamer" when they want to go by ferry

  • @henkweurding3339
    @henkweurding3339 День тому +1

    A very nice explaining video on the functioning of the ship. Well explained, very interesting!. Thanks and thumps!

  • @Rosseloh
    @Rosseloh 2 дні тому +3

    Makes me wish I didn't live 500km from the nearest large body of water (Lake Superior) and 1500 from the nearest one that could be considered part of an ocean. :) We don't get cool things like this where I live!
    Thanks for the tour!

  • @theflyingfool
    @theflyingfool 22 години тому +1

    Thanks for that really good and well explained tour!

  • @joelonderee2872
    @joelonderee2872 День тому +1

    This is one excellent video, great animations. Now, I finally know how triple expansion engines work!

    • @Genius_at_Work
      @Genius_at_Work  День тому +1

      I didn't explain why though, because it would have made the Video too long. Steam cools down as it expands in the Cylinders, hence the Cylinder has a Temperature somewhere around the middle between the hot Steam coming in and cold(er) Steam going out. Dividing the Expansion over multiple Cylinders reduces this Temperature Gradient, and thus less Heat is wasted on "heating" the Cylinder when hot Steam enters it.

    • @WesleyHarcourtSTEAMandMORE
      @WesleyHarcourtSTEAMandMORE 18 годин тому

      ​​@@Genius_at_Work
      Also the size of a single cylinder required to fully expand high pressure steam down to (or below) atmospheric pressure would be enormous, and difficult to start (maneuvering). Much easier to do it in stages with cranks at different angles on the crankshaft for smoother power impulses and easier starting...

  • @jandoerlidoe3412
    @jandoerlidoe3412 День тому +2

    What a nice video, and such good, expert explanation on how it all works.... great work ! thank you for posting...

  • @jacksmail7725
    @jacksmail7725 День тому

    Very Nice! My grandfather was a "fire man" on steam locomotive when he was 14..shoveling that coal...jP

  • @Yaivenov
    @Yaivenov День тому

    Sounds like the whistles splitting edge could use some attention. Beautiful engine.

  • @gentlegiants1974
    @gentlegiants1974 День тому +2

    excellent tour!

  • @jamestregler1584
    @jamestregler1584 2 дні тому +6

    Super job ; thanks from old New Orleans 😎

    • @Genius_at_Work
      @Genius_at_Work  2 дні тому +1

      If I ever come by there, a similar Video on the Steamer Natchez is on my Bucket List.

    • @rudycarlson8245
      @rudycarlson8245 День тому

      @@Genius_at_Work where is this ship?

  • @davidnelson8081
    @davidnelson8081 14 годин тому

    The most interesting video I've seen in a long time.

  • @bain5872
    @bain5872 День тому +1

    Well done. Very detailed.

  • @MrArray1967
    @MrArray1967 День тому

    Sehr interessantes Video.
    Ich bin Maschinenmeister und habe so ein Einblick in Schifffahrt/Schiffe.
    Man sieht dass das Video von einen mit Dampf Erfahrung gedreht wurde.
    Sehr gut. Sehr interessant.

  • @ClipperDays
    @ClipperDays День тому +1

    She might be the largest "museum ship" but Badger is a much larger ship in regular service on Lake Michigan. I've had the pleasure of a working visit in her engine room.

    • @craigbrown7929
      @craigbrown7929 День тому

      We came back from Wisconsin to Michigan last year on the ss badger. One week before the loading dock broke on the Michigan side.

  • @davidcoudriet8439
    @davidcoudriet8439 День тому +2

    It's a beautiful thing.

  • @WesleyHarcourtSTEAMandMORE
    @WesleyHarcourtSTEAMandMORE 18 годин тому

    Great video and footage. Thank you for posting. This ship is on my list

  • @ulrichbahr1531
    @ulrichbahr1531 День тому +2

    Oh how nice :) I planed to travel from Kiel to Lübeck with the Stettin, to see the Setttin from inside, but sadly my bike was stolen this day so i cancel it . THX that I can see what i ve missed. By the way look for the "Start eines U boot Motors aus dem 2. Weltkrieg Schiffsdiesel "

  • @Sebi076
    @Sebi076 7 годин тому

    Absolutely amazing machinery, great informational video.

  • @gillonstewart1601
    @gillonstewart1601 День тому

    Brilliant video as always

  • @modelengineeringadventures
    @modelengineeringadventures День тому

    Great explanation of how the compound engine works...I am building one at the moment., they are quite complicated compared to industry steam engines.

  • @rsinclair6560
    @rsinclair6560 День тому

    Make sure you keep the ash from going underneath the stoker plate. Bilge sea water and ash corode the hull floor plates, transverse and longitudinal stringers, boiler mount and inner hull plate. When the vessel is slipped the weight can be too heavy and boiler mount breaks through the bottom hull. Always a good place for the engineer surveyor during survey to hit hard with a hammer or these days a thickness tester.

  • @scowell
    @scowell 2 дні тому +2

    This is an excellent video! Wish I'd seen this instead of the Reeperbahn! Have to visit again.

    • @Genius_at_Work
      @Genius_at_Work  2 дні тому +2

      Season is from early May to mid September, although not always in Hamburg. The outside Views were recorded at the 2022 Flensburg Steam Fair, the onboard Footage on the North Sea between Büsum and Cuxhaven.

  • @bobbles799
    @bobbles799 День тому +1

    thank you

  • @delrayshaffer6376
    @delrayshaffer6376 17 годин тому

    Fascinating!

  • @tonydeleo3642
    @tonydeleo3642 День тому

    She is a beautiful lasy!!

  • @benstensby6037
    @benstensby6037 21 годину тому

    So very cool

  • @iandibley8032
    @iandibley8032 14 годин тому

    Living history so worth while preserving for future generations. The guys in the engine room should be wearing hearing protection or their hearing will screwed like mine from working in heavy engineering & ship repairs.

  • @tsclly2377
    @tsclly2377 12 годин тому

    Love it

  • @rudolfpeterudo3100
    @rudolfpeterudo3100 2 дні тому +2

    The curved bars on the eccentrics is refered to as "Stevenson reversing gear" Had this on the river class frigate HMAS Diamantina now a museum ship in Brisbane Australia. Sadly a non runner.

    • @Genius_at_Work
      @Genius_at_Work  День тому

      I've initally had that "Stephenson's Link" in the Video, but removed it when I cut a few Things out to get the Video below 25 Minutes.

  • @paulbk7810
    @paulbk7810 13 годин тому

    I was US Navy 1968-74, reactor operator on ballistic missile nuclear submarine. Very quiet in the engine room at anything less than a full-bell (steam turbine main engines, steam turbine electric generators). First thing I notice in the vid is the noise. Become very noise sensitive living in a submarine. Noise tells the enemy where you are. ---- Coal took the world out of the middle ages into the industrial revolution. A miracle fuel (inexpensive and high energy density). But for coal there would be no trees left in Europe.

    • @Genius_at_Work
      @Genius_at_Work  7 годин тому

      It's a really quiet Engine Room, by Civilian Standards where Noise doesn't relly matter (yet; I expect that there may be coming Regulations regarding that in the mid-Future, to protect Whales). It's quiet enough to allow Conversation without having to shout, like on almost all Piston Steam Engine Ships. Oil-burning Boilers are quite loud though, but most Ships have separate Boiler Rooms and most German Steam Ships burn Coal. Even the 1962 Cargo Ship Cap San Diego, where I volunteer as Mechanic has a Diesel Engine quiet enough that you don't need Hearing Protection in most of the Engine Room. Reason is that it is a 80 RPM Two Stroke Engine and has small Turbochargers with just 0.1 bar Scavenge Air Pressure, with modern Engines of 2-3 bar, the Turbochargers become very loud as soon as they build up Pressure. The Ships that I work on for a Living have Pitch Propeller Propulsion, meaning to say the Engine always runs at 440 RPM and is very loud regardless if the Propeller is set to Pitch 0 or Pitch 10.
      Btw. I am working on a Video about the first French Nuclear Submarine Le Redoutable, which is preserved in Cherbourg and to my Knowledge is one of only two in the World where the Engine Room is open for Visitors, the only other one is the first Soviet one in St. Petersburg. The Reactor Room has been replaced by just an empty Section that with a Diashow of how it was turned into a Museum, unlike in Russia where the two Reactors were replaced by Replicas, but my Chances of getting there are slim to none. Anyway, what I am up to is that I was a little surprised by the apparent Absence of a smaller Marching Turbine; the Redoutable Class is powered by two identical Turbines that drive one reduction Gearbox. The Turbines didn't seem like a Turbine Set (consisting of HP, LP, Reversing and possibly a smaller Marching Turbine) to me but literally just one Turbine. Not bothering with a Reversing Turbine seemed logical, because using the Electric Motor for Manouvering made Sense to me. But given that Missile Submarines usually creep about Dead Slow (to my Knowledge), I would have guessed that a smaller Marching Turbine is way more efficient than running the large Turbines at awfully slow RPM.
      Because Le Redoutable is just on static Display (obviously), I must resort to voicing over that Video which already takes me ages as I'm not a very good Speaker. I only took Pictures of the Engine Room, because it was so crowded that recording Video was impossible without someone walking into Frame all the Time. I guess I'll give it a go to show myself speaking, even if it means possibly hundreds of Takes as I am a very bad Speaker, but I'll have plenty of Time when I'm at Sea again.

    • @Genius_at_Work
      @Genius_at_Work  7 годин тому

      Btw. here's the two louder Diesel Engines that I mentioned:
      Cap San Diego: ua-cam.com/video/rZkW4A_cOfU/v-deo.html
      The Ships where I work: ua-cam.com/video/xkp_T-DSA-s/v-deo.html
      The latter Video is not public yet, and probably won't be for some Time.

  • @richardbrobeck2384
    @richardbrobeck2384 День тому

    Cool !

  • @bobcornford3637
    @bobcornford3637 День тому

    Lovely video..... did I miss the vacuum pump?

  • @johnstudd4245
    @johnstudd4245 День тому

    The coal fired auto and passenger ferry SS Badger that crosses Lake Michigan is more than twice as long as this ship.

  • @danquigg8311
    @danquigg8311 День тому

    Was that a coffee pot in the scene where the operator was filling the cylinder oil? And, the small highspeed, engines - were they also VTEs? How do you make feed water? Do you have some sort of distillation plant or evaporators? Thanks! GREAT video!

    • @Genius_at_Work
      @Genius_at_Work  День тому +1

      There is no Desalination Plant, because the Stettin never was intended for Voyages longer than a few Days and Feed Water was just bunkered from Shore. Regarding the other Questions: These are Oil Cans, and what do you mean by VTE?

  • @dennisk5818
    @dennisk5818 19 годин тому

    I'm good with mechanics, but who figured out where all of this fits inside the engine room?
    I wonder how often during the building, was it said, "Hey, we've go to couple this pipe here with that thing. I need another five feet of 3" pipe, a 90 and 60 degree elbow, a coupler and a reducer to one inch..... yea, that's enough."

    • @Genius_at_Work
      @Genius_at_Work  19 годин тому +1

      Shipbuilding used Models for that until CAD came up. Pretty much every Marine Training Facility I ever visited (Rostock, Travemünde, Flensburg, Elsfleth) has such Models on Display, the Hull is made of transparent Plexiglass and all Pipes are painted in the typical Color-coding Scheme.

  • @modellbahnagenda
    @modellbahnagenda 2 дні тому +1

    👍👍👍

  • @mebeasensei
    @mebeasensei 2 дні тому +1

    I think some bulk carrier ships on the Great Lakes remained coal powered into the 1950s, maybe beyond?

    • @ljwibb8688
      @ljwibb8688 2 дні тому +1

      Excellent video. We have done a little better, apart from a couple of museum ships, the last sizeable (75kt) coal fired ships in Australia were for Queensland Alumina - had 5 steam ships running Wiepa-Gladstone 1981-2012. Machinery 2 automatic chain grate boilers plus a single turbine about 8MW. Cylone exhaust cleanup. Gave great service. The first one was retired last after spending a couple of years as a collier.

  • @hastuart9639
    @hastuart9639 21 годину тому

    Your HP and IP are piston valves, only the LP has a slide valve as shown on the diagram and cylinder tops.
    It is a Triple Expansion not a 3 cylinder triple expansion, if it was a two cylinder it would be a Compound Expansion. Single cylinders are usually pumps called simplex pumps or expansion. A FD fan engine could be single or compound steam engine, steam dynamos are often Compund engines.

    • @Genius_at_Work
      @Genius_at_Work  19 годин тому

      I know that, but just called all of them Slide Valves for Simplicity. And there were Triple Expansion Engines with four Cylinders, because with larger Engines the Diameter required would have become too large for one Cylinder, so large Engines had two Low Pressure Cylinders. Similar to how many Steam Turbines have multiple Low Pressure Turbines because the Blade Length would become too large; e.g. have both Swiss Nuclear Powerplants Turbine Sets consisting of one High and three Low Pressure Turbines.
      The Genset Engine has three identical Cylinders, because these Spilling Motors are modular like many Industrial Diesel Engines. Spillingwerk builds them to this Day, mostly for Applications with dangerous Atmosphere and abundant Steam, such as Refineries or Chemical Plants. And the Engine drives a Generator; Dynamos are excited by Permanent Magnets and Generators by Electromagnet Coils. The latter allows controlling Voltage independent from RPM, which is vital for synchronising Generators to the Grid.

  • @mbak7801
    @mbak7801 День тому

    Germany really likes its coal. Not lignite in this case of course. In fact a huge proportion of the German electricity grid burns lignite which I think is the highest proportion in Europe. (the renewable figures are a bit fake). However one interesting coal powered ship is not going to make any difference and is well worth preserving. Looks great.

    • @Genius_at_Work
      @Genius_at_Work  День тому

      There actually are 10+ Coal-burning Steam Ships in Germany, although none of the others are anywhere near as large as the Stettin and all but one are Volunteer-ran Museums too. The only commercial one is the Paddle Steamer Diesbar in Dresden, but it sails rarely and the Operator mostly relies on its other Oil-burning Paddle Steamers.

  • @arongyorffy3070
    @arongyorffy3070 22 години тому

    It looks like that only the low pressure cilinder has a silde-valve. The medium and the high pressure seem to have piston valves

    • @Genius_at_Work
      @Genius_at_Work  19 годин тому +1

      Exactly, but I just called all of them Slide Valves for Simplicity. Slider-Type Slide Valves are impractical for higher Steam Pressures because they are sealed by Steam pushing the Slider onto the Rail, which would be too strong with higher Steam Pressures making it too hard to move the Slide Valve. This being forced onto the Rail has the Advantage that Sliders just get pushed off the Rail if the Cylinder gets hydrolocked, turning them effectively into a Safety Valve. That's why Sliders are better than Pistons for the last Expansion Stage, where Condensation may already occurr.

  • @AndreiTupolev
    @AndreiTupolev День тому

    It must take real commitment to volunteer to stoke the boilers. Are the crew paid or are they all unpaid volunteers 🙋‍♀️ 🙋‍♂️? I think that shaft at2:40is a fresh air ventilation shaft, not a boiler uptake

  • @randysummerhays4168
    @randysummerhays4168 2 дні тому +1

    I was on the last all guns Steam Destroyer the USS Hull 1200 lb steam 960 ° superheat we would climb up on top of the boilers and gag the safeties chain them shut for full speed wartime simulated runs the whole damn ship would Shake 30 or 40 ft rooster tail to the gods of steam

  • @GpunktHartman
    @GpunktHartman День тому

    They do the Maschinestaging for the Titanic Movie 🎥 on this boat… , isn‘ it?

    • @Genius_at_Work
      @Genius_at_Work  День тому

      Liberty Ship Jeremiah o'Brien in San Francisco, but the Engines are similar.

  • @jimthesoundman8641
    @jimthesoundman8641 День тому

    7:19 You should have used the word "corresponding" instead of "according".

  • @DavidEssex-fe6mx
    @DavidEssex-fe6mx 13 годин тому

    I don't get it?

  • @K_Hansen
    @K_Hansen 22 години тому

    how many HP ?

    • @Genius_at_Work
      @Genius_at_Work  19 годин тому

      2200 HP, as stated in the Video. But it only runs anywhere near that during the Steam Ship Race of the Flensburg Steam Fair. It actually is fitted with an Electronic Device that reads out Propeller Shaft Power and Torque (Hoppe Shaft Power Limiting System), you can see the Sensor Ring in the Footage of the Propeller Shaft. When the Engine was running Dead Slow, it uses as little as 100 odd HP.

    • @K_Hansen
      @K_Hansen 19 годин тому

      i did not catch that in the video

  • @PaulPavlinovich
    @PaulPavlinovich День тому

    She is an impressive ship, but she's not the biggest operating coal fire ship in the world.

    • @Genius_at_Work
      @Genius_at_Work  День тому

      That's why I mentioned the Badger in the Video, with the Explanation that it has Mechanical Stokers.

    • @PaulPavlinovich
      @PaulPavlinovich 14 годин тому

      @@Genius_at_Work that is not the biggest either - there are a lot of operational steam powered ships still left in the world

  • @mainesail3097
    @mainesail3097 3 години тому

    PATHETIC--COULD HAVE BEEN A GOOD VIDEO, BUT THEY USED A CHEAP CAMERA AND HAD LOUSY VIDEO SKILLS

  • @RoddCutts
    @RoddCutts 13 годин тому

    Awesome video