Cattle Panel High Tunnels - Fall Update and review
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2019
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Resources and details:
• Cattle Panel Greenhous... - Detailed talk on how these high tunnels were designed and built. Pretty simple and straightforward.
polyrem.amleo.com/ - Where we've sourced greenhouse poly for these structures. 6mil UV stabilized is what we've used. Grow Film Sunsaver Clear 4 Year 6mil Infrared & Anti-drip specifically.
You may also ask local farms if they have tunnels they are replacing, and perhaps get nice poly that way?
orbesenteknik.com/produkt/roo... - Vent tool I used for the window.
Check out our Greenhouse playlist for a number of videos on these structures if you want to see them in different seasons, etc...
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Happy growing!
Bravo! Like the set-up! The swale directing water to the tomato nursery is a great idea. Using run-off water- like it!
I appreciate your continued updates on the quality of the high tunnels. Durability really matters.
I'm going to throw some greenhouse plastic over my cattle panel trellises! I loved seeing how yours looks!
Glad to see someone else's Tulsi is as prolific as mine. I have been growing the same plants I started with for several years (over-wintered indoors in Oklahoma and now in new greenhouse in Louisiana). I now have Tulsi coming up everywhere. Everytime I plants something new in the ground or in a pot, Tulsi comes up right along side it. I originally started saving flower heads for seeds until I realized there was no need because these plants do all the work for me. I have been harvesting and drying it like crazy. It's more than I will ever use but I just want bring myself to dig up medicinal plants with such amazing properties
We still try to remember to save some seed each year, but even in our cold 5B climate they tend to want to naturalize in the garden. Crazy magic basil!
@@edibleacres when I harvest cut it way back and then hang to dry. I put all the flower/seed heads in a jar to share with others. It is so prolific. How do you all use it besides tea? I'm always looking for creative new ways to use wonderful medicinals like this
I love your garden!! It is so rustic and beautiful!! I'm planning to do a cattle panel tunnel this year. You have inspired me!! Great video!
Thank you so much!!
😂😂 the jays in the background are making the jays near my yard call back! Sitting outside is a good way to view gardening vids 😁
Your tunnels are so beautiful !!!
Great project! I like your poly tunnel and plants in it. You have such a nice voice too.
Thank you. One of my fav you guys are.
Great video and information! We built a cattle panel high tunnel (greenhouse ?)similar to yours just this Spring. Glad to see how yours is doing. Great job and thanks for the ideas!
I built a two panel 3 years ago. It was easy and inexpensive to build. And it has survived high winds and hail. I have shelving on both sides and also use hanging pots. I’m in SW Oklahoma and I use it primarily to winter succulent and other plants and to start plants.
In winter I use an oscillating space heater at night when temps drop below the low twenties.
Thank you for the link to buy covering. Prices are very reasonable. I may need to replace mine next year or maybe build another one!
Hoping you can find that resource useful, we've been thrilled with it.
WOW. I am so impressed and motivated. Your videos are awesome! I've played with chickens and ducks and started gardens but have never enjoyed a harvest due to family moving issues. Others have enjoyed my work which thoroughly gratifies me. Now that I just purchased 1/3 acre of virgin Texas land I hope to stay off grid and hunker down. Thank you for your generous tenacity in sharing your work. Thank you for your service to humanity!
Nice video. This is a complement: I liked seeing your hands and that they were dirty. When I see supposed gardeners and they have clean hands and nails, I wonder how much they really dig in the dirt.
OAG
I don't think my hands are clean except for maybe February! :)
@@edibleacres Good for you. I think when I was young and played outside all day, children were healthier than of these days. And I think part of it was that playing in the dirt as we did, with dirty fingers that often put things in our mouth along with some dirt helped to keep us healthy. Eating a little dirt is good for us. I just subscribed to your channel and as I have time I will watch your videos. BTW, I am 80 years old and still gardening.
OAG
@@OldAlabamaGardener You are EXACTLY right! Scientific research confirmed that there's good bacteria in soil which helps us not be depressed, it helps us be happier. I noticed years ago that I always felt better after gardening and it wasn't just from working hard. So go dig in the dirt when you feel a bit low, it will help you feel better and it ALWAYS works for me.
Great comments here. :) Check out Old Alabama Gardener's youtube channel, he posts lots of great gardening info and great recipes to use your fresh clean produce.
@@dystopiagear6999 Thank you.
OAG
Love what you’re sharing and doing! Thanks for sharing, (soundly subscribed)
Really inspiring video, thank you!
I enjoyed watching! Thanks for the great info as always!
Brilliant!
Thanks for the update.
Thank you so much for the update. :)
When you start thinning the mustards and kale, you can plant in the unplanted areas and increase your winter crop production.
Great suggestion
We used 8foot T posts with cattle panels attached up high and added cheaper fencing on the lower sections. Makes a wonderful trellis to grow on in the summer and cover it with plastic taped on in the winter. My neighbor suggested using shade cloth layer and plastic layer both attached to a strip along the top center with a plastic rod attached to the bottom edge of each layer. Then you can roll them up and have either shade cloth, plastic or open wire frame for growing food on. They have a thriving business making porch enclosures with this method. Can't wait to try it!
Thanks for sharing notes here on your specifics, sounds like a great system.
Your polytunnel videos are my favorite. Then your land design including ponds, pruning, adding new companions. Love the privacy wall also. And Sasha's cooking and food storage! Enjoyed the attached greenhouse heated with compost too. And the frog and critter habitats . . . Oh shoot, chicken TV and composting should be second on the list. Ok, they are all favorites. :-) Thank you both!!!
LKH Fun - Agree. Said very well. Thank you for posting. Like this couple's work. Bonnie Rae
Thanks for this :) We're happy to make the videos and glad that folks are enjoying them and hopefully finding them useful.
You have a dream garden🌸
Awesome video!
I like this idea even for South Georgia and we have the panels left over from our pig pens & dog runs. Thanks
Amazing! God bless!
Keep up the great job.
You can still start seeds for hardy greens. Territorial Seed has some cold hardy varieties. My Winter King lettuce took -30 last winter under double cover (no heat). Made a believer out of me.
Great tips. Thank you 😊
Plastic type does matter! I have used the cheap 6 mil. Painters plastic and it literally disintegrates and falls to millions from tiny pieces that are nearly impossible to pick all up.
Hust Cherry? Those have so many names. Often called Incan Ground Cherries or Golden Berries. We grow those too.
I covet your milk crates! Lol
Lovely video. Thanks for the information.
Very interesting. Thank you.
This is perfect and will solve our greenhouse problem. We call those hog panels actually but what a great idea. We have some metal cattle panels being delivered this week and will use a couple for the sides then the wire hog panels to make the arched roof. This I believe will actually work up here in northern Canada where wind and snow loads are pretty hard on typical greenhouses. Thank you for solving our greenhouse issue!
So glad to have offered up some ideas you could use. With heavy wind you can extend the plastic on the sides and make a permanent raised bed over them to help pin it down. Deeply hammered rebar or rot resistant wood you can bind onto can help from any lifting.
@@edibleacres Thank you, we will do that with the plastic since the greenhouse will be out in the open. Give the wind a tiny opening and it will rip plastic off in not time here. We have kept greenhouses small but this will allow us to make the size we actually need and I know it will stand up to the weather, thanks so much!
Good information. Thank you.
I'll be ordering some of those husk cherries soon!
Love it!
They look like 3 panels to me... Nice job though. Very inspiring! Thank you so much for the info.
There are 4 in this structure. Really happy to share!
I built my cattle panel poly tunnel based on the design on UA-cam done by Prepper2. I've had mine up for 4-5 years and it does work very well. It is important to use greenhouse cloudy plastic. DON'T use the clear plastic or your plants will cook. Get one that cuts down on the amount of light that gets trough. In this video the cloudy appearance of the plastic is what I'm talking about.
I'd love to have one, but not sure I'd need it in S.C. Great video and presentation.
I "discovered" cattle panels a bit over a year ago and I'm totally hooked on them. My main raised beds are made of cattle panel cut in half the long way (so they're about 2' tall) and lined with hardware cloth. They're working out very very well.
Helpful hint: if you are concerned about getting the ungainly panels back to your property because you don't have access to a truck, consider ordering a whole bunch at once and having them delivered. We got ours from a big box store along with some other stuff, and the shipping charge was only $80 to have them delivered and stacked up nicely. So you have to buy quite a bit to make the shipping cost worthwhile, but it can be worth it at a certain point.
Here is the video that inspired me to build my panel raised beds. You get two good-sized beds out of each panel this way, and they're *very* easy to build even if you're working alone. It's an excellent channel with a great deal of info about building soil with permaculture techniques. ua-cam.com/video/AVaFsORKhl8/v-deo.html
Thanks for sharing this.
Good point. For folks who don't have access to a truck it may be beneficial to invest in a big load, build a bunch of cattle panels, and other infrastructure, maybe invest in some fencing or other long lasting resources as well.
@@edibleacres exactly, we bit the bullet and ordered all the panels we needed, some rolls of wire fencing, even a couple outdoor chairs we wanted to make it all worthwhile. The stores typically charge a flat fee for the truck to come to your house, so you may as well fill it up as much as you can afford to.
Just love what your sharing here , just subscribed , we live out here in Colorado Springs. Building one now , lookin to find the 6 mil plastic poly
Our pleasure for sure! Check the description for links and details...
Hi my first visit if you buy strips of foam say 2" x 2" and using a spray adhesive on one side sticking it onto your dry outer plastic sheeting then re cover with poly tunnel uv protected sheeting you can grow all the year round ,this creates a air frost break in your tunnel.PD
PS.lay a 2" to 3 " layer of green grass cuttings over the growing area it will rot down over winter giving you a great growing medium.in spring.
Nice notes here, thanks for sharing!
Really artistic tomato plants. :)
I'd love to hear more about your experience with the myoga, including where you sourced it.
Maybe Strictly Medicinals or One green World? 2 years ago, in the spring, we planted, without it seeming like it could overwinter for us. It handled -15F outside, with no protection like a champ. Now Sasha is experimenting with traditional uses and we'll be offering it once it proves hardy again this winter!
Thank you for this helpful video. Have you been rotating crops through out your high tunnels? I'm wondering if you grow tomatoes in the same high tunnel each season?
Great info! Looks doable even in my Ohio suburban back yard zone 6
Is it ok for chickens to eat tomato plants? And green tomatoes?
I just checked dr google and red are fine but green can be a problem for them because of solanine in nightshade
My chickens will eat the red and green tomatoes but they don’t bother with the plants.
Small Greenhouse.
Yep! 7.5' wide and roughly 16' long.
hey Sean! do you use a wooden barrier for just the corridor in the house or does the side abutting the plastic also get this support? I'd imagine the polly +panel could handle the displacement of the compost. also curious about how you battened the polly snuggly to the hoop house. I was thinking of just weighing it down with pebbles, but am open to other suggestions. ps I haven't had mush luck with the polly remnant link up to present but for those interested there are affordable cuts that can be found on eBay.
I love thisseries Ikeep trying to get my hubby to watch it,but... Anyways i have seen it ans that ias allthatmatters!Copying somewhere between you and Patrick!
Do you notice less tomato blight in the greenhouses? I'm always able to get a decent crop off mine but by this time they have pretty much succumbed to blight (grown outside in no till soil)
Which variety of fig is it? From what I've heard of someone in zone 7, Hardy Chicago is the hardiest fig he has out of hundreds of varieties. Also, there are fig varieties that can freeze to the ground, grow back next season and still produce some figs. Not all varieties can do that.
Sean, Sasha, what is the big tub out front for? How does that fit in? Love thees videos, and your whole channel!! 🙏🏻👍🏻
That’s a tank we fill with rain water for watering in there...
Thank you for sharing! What size cattle panel did you use?
16' long by 50" tall, standard cattle panel from Tractor Supply.
We do covers like yours short tunnel tho....Ontario Algonquin Park area
Great ideas. Where did you buy the cattle panels? I'm in NH and I've not found a good source.
Tractor Supply local to us had them.
First time here, do you have a video on building this?
Shoudl be in the description of this video... Also a playlist on greenhouses is here if that is of use to ya.
Good info. Where in Upstate N.Y.?
I’m from Hamilton but now have lived in the Andes Mountains region of Peru for 16yrs.
Farming and gardening are quite different here with altitude at 10,000 ft and short 12 hr sunlight along with extreme rainy and dry seasons. Thank you for sharing your experiences.
VERY different I bet down there, wow. We're near Ithaca, in the Finger Lakes.
Interested in your ginger, did you purchase it from a supplier? Thanks!
We are hoping to offer it next season, but if you search 'Mioga Ginger' online you can find some options.
Looks like it's going fantastic! We're wanting to make a greenhouse/poly-tunnel soon - I keep seeing this 'cattle panels', but I don't think we have the product in New Zealand.
Hmmm... I'm not sure... They are panels that are 50" tall and 16' long, made of heavy duty galvanized welded lengths. Maybe there is something similar by you?
We don't have cattle panels here in France either, but we have found that the "trellis/lattice" (Sorry I don't know the technical term...*googles* inset mesh/steel reinforcement mesh) for concrete has worked well for us as garden trellises. We have a manufactured polytunnel, but I might try Sean's idea of building another because, yeah, you can never have enough growing space undercover. Once you have one, you want a bigger one.😁
We have concrete mesh too, but it's nearly too strong and it has to bend/hold in place - but I might have to look for lower gauge, because I definitely want one!
@@edibleacres - Similar but quite expensive - I'll have to keep looking into options! I always love your ideas and motivation :) I have my own channel of what's happening in my garden here - definitely flipped seasons!
@@grow.nurture.nourish what we did for arched trellises was to cut the mesh into two lengths and bend/attach them to meet in the middle to give us more height and increase flexibility.
How do these hold up in strong winds? I'm near tornado alley and while we do not get tornadoes in my area, we do get super strong winds. Do you think they would work for my area? Just found your channel. Thank you and subscribed.
They have handled heavy winds well for us. You'd want to have serious stakes hammered down into the earth that it can be screwed into, and the poly should go down to the ground and out a few feet, covered deeply in soil with a permanent bed on both sides of the long run of the tunnel.
@@edibleacres Thank you for the response. I will try this out.
Are husked cherries and ground cherries the same thing?
I don't believe so. These are 'Husk Cherries'
any update on the ginger pickles??
We'll need to do a video on them some day. We still have them from last years attempt that Sasha made and they are lovely.
I had never heard of buying the poly remnants. I went to the link that you listed, could you tell me what you use on your high tunnels to help me better understand the webpage link... Thank you
Link in the description.
Are you going to widen and heighten the chicken run high tunnel?
Do you take down all the poly for summer and then put the same poly back for winter? If so how are you attaching it to make it removable and reuseable
We just leave it on for better or worse, so far so good...
Maşallah
What do you do for your soil inside your tunnels? Any sort of no-till techniques ?
No till at all, just adding more compost on top each year.
EdibleAcres I’m planning on building a couple beds then putting a high tunnel over it. Do you have any recommendations on what to do with the soil in order to get it ready?
Does the soil suffer from
Not having the winter freeze and time to rest?
We try to add more compost each year to help add fresh life and provide rain water as irrigation, but yes, it could be 'wearing out' over time without the real exposure.
What kind of ginger is that? I missed the name.
Yes! I missed that also! And would LOVE to know! I miss growing ginger!!! And this one looked really cool!!!
How wide do you set the panels for the arch?
7.5' roughly
What's the lowest temperature inside the tunnel, when it's below zero outside??
Certainly freezes in there in the depths of winter, but probably gives a buffer of 10 to 20 degrees extra over outside air temps.
How tall is the front yard high tunnel and what side cattle panel did you used to achieve the height?
Tallest point in the middle is roughly 6'2". The cattle panels are the 'standard' ones I can get at Tractor Supply and are 50" tall x 16' wide.
What is the inside width of the floor frame? Thank you.
I don't know exactly, but I'd guess roughly 24-30" give or take... I think that can be adjjusted based on your own needs... The wider the door the lower the top will be. I roughed it out to be comfortable for me to duck in...
What feet of poly fabric did you use for the cattle panel , I look up the sight you put , it seems it comes in sheets and not rolls?
Comes in both. I like 20x24 or so to be extra safe as a baseline. Extra can be carefully cut off and used for cold frames.
EdibleAcres thanks so much!
Harvest video please.
how many feet of fencing to make the arch?
The arch is made from a cattle panel, which is 16' long and 50" tall, arched over the long way.
How is it to day your greenhouse
Very cold but still standing!
How wide and high is it. Thanks
7.5' wide, 16' or so long and about 6'2" in the middle inside...
Could you sell some of the hot pepper seeds. My mother in law had one for years, but she’s gone and pepper plant too
We don't selll seeds unfortunately. Sorry.
Why have you gotten rid of tomatos so early.? I am in zone 5 and we still have tomatos coming and no frost yet. I would imagine even if there is frost outside, you can keep stuff growing till christmas
We wanted to wrap up certain crops so we could move on to other types for fall...
That's cool that the chickens do not jump up and eat your tomatoes! I wonder why they dont..chickens can flutter jump pretty high. Does your poly hold up to hail?
Poly is fine with hail so far... The chickens aren't in this particular area so that probably is why :)
Question how do you deal with rats and mice
We don't worry about them, they haven't been a problem.
That's Mollakaya. Right???
Sure is.
Do you sell paw, paw trees? Do they grow in your area?
We do! They do! Sold out for fall, but they grow great for us.
@@edibleacres Thanks for answering.... :>)>
Your link for plastic is broken
Hmmm... if you go to amleo.com and search for 'poly remnant sale' I suspect you can find it.
@@edibleacres thank you! I found it and have it in my living room now haha such a good tip!
Plant kale around or under that basil... It will prosper after the basil dies....
Nice kale in 2nd tunnel
Exactly, we need to sow under them.
What other then kale do you have... Peas in my experience they like the cold but can't take a really hard frost... Oh maybe radish... I planted them around my flowers when I planted them late... I didn't want the "weeds" to come so I planted my own weeds... Now we have radish as the flowers get ready for winter.... I found a native fav flower of mine and it is growing so well next to my pond... Now I can't remember the name lol.... Cardinal flower... Lobelia cardinalis... It has a special it is special it grew at the fishing hole me and my Papa went to it was one of our special places... The other flowers were 4"pots of mystery perennial flowers my Mom got for free (lost tags, raggedy and no more flowers) my Mom is great at finding free plants 😀 I'm lucky she shares with me....
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Time to start hoarding carbon starts😂😂😂
Hi you all, do what he said, get the real plastic for greenhouses, I went cheap, buy the $11.00 plastic set and cover, it lasted the winter, but when Summer came it DESINTEGRATE, BREAK, and I had a big job collecting plastic pieces from everywhere, from the garden, because the rain and wind also contributed to the mess, when I touched a big piece it desintegrated in my hands. Very bad for the environment, too much job for me to clean all.
Sorry you had that experience. We all live and learn.
Too US oriented to be of value to me.