$150 Greenhouse - Incredibly simple and sturdy!
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- Опубліковано 11 лют 2017
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• Cattle Panel Greenhous... - Initial design video
• Cattle Panel Greenhous... - Considerations and influence on how/why I built this
• $150 Greenhouse - Can... - How this structure held up to a blizzard
This is an update video at about the one year mark from when I first made this structure. So far it has started a tremendous amount of plant starts for us, provide a lot of delicious fresh greens, grew our hot peppers, and is proving itself to be a reliable place to overwinter rosemary.
We are going to experiment with using small cold frames in the high tunnel space to be able to start seeds within a week or two, extending our growing season by many weeks. What a great structure for such low cost!
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Happy growing!
Love the green house and cold frame! Will soon begin my seeds! Happy New year!
You have a very soothing Bob Ross like voice. Keep this up! Thanks!
Your videos are super calm, love the garden and your voice. May your garden continue to flourish. :)
I can't wait for spring! I put hoops over one of my beds, will put plastic on to start a few things early.
Great job! Can never have enough rosemary!
great job! Your set up looks like mine, which I have really enjoyed since moving from zone 10 to zone 5. Growing in mid Winter really lifts my spirits, besides eating some of the incredible cold tolerant greens. Happy homesteading!
Thank you.
That is holding a crop not growing a crop.
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ua-cam.com/video/yBrXDJbQkNE/v-deo.html - Fall 2019 update on this structure and more structures like this... They are working nicely for us after 3+ years!
I love wherever it is you live. I haven't seen snow in a decade, Houston sucks lol
Great stuff thanks for sharing. Love your work
Thank you for all your content! I have been following 3 other channels but they are all in the south. It is very nice to finally find a channel closer to Maine and our climate. Now on to binge watching more of your content!
Thanks for sharing - beautiful green house! Great information - Tim
Your poly tunnel has worked out quite nicely. We have loads over here, they really extend the growing session
Congrats on your greenhouse...few thoughts on your soon to be cold frame for onions...you can just plant the root ends of spring onions that will grow into full slicing onions...or same with bulbs of garlic just break them up Ann plant them...both will give you a striking flower..deter nicest and deer,and non stop eating bunnies....
Your smart to let the greenhouse pull you in.... Give it a few years and you will have the whole thing running off fish water from the rain gutters...
You might make a little side money with a handful of those Rosemary trimmings at the restaurant too.... Just send them to the chef with a note...." More where this came from " ..... ....remember solar fans and pumps are getting better every day....starting my 22 year with my 10 X 20
Will likely put one together on the new block once we're moved in,thank you and as always thumbs up.
It's a great project, nothing too challenging about any aspect of putting it together, and it's really rewarding. My older video on it (linked near the beginning of this video) goes over how I came up with this one. Nothing special to it. Have fun!
HII,
you are right about the green house in a green house that shift zones..
did you manage to do that ? i mean with the windows panel that you found by the road side ?
any video of that ? love to see that video.
andrew
Very cool. This is now on my projects list
Nice! Glad you are having good luck with it.
We've been happy with it, and it's still growing strong!
It's a good thing you put your Rosemary near your arugula, cuz arugula is stinky. Never been a huge fan of arugula unless in small portions in a salad mixed with peppers and a garlic vinnagerette. Garlic seems to tone down the funk of arugula,and some fresh crushed pepper corn mix.... Yummy! I like it with fish or garlic roasted chicken.
Gonna build mine this fall I want to try tomatoes over winter with a little heat of course
This is great information
Single senior wants to grow enough NOT to have buy the crap in the stores. Great video. Just subscribed. Thanks.
Excellent! I've been growing my own veggies for 18 years now. Nothing like it. Also have chickens!
I'm 72 and grow a lot in my yard and have quite a few fruit trees and shrubs.
I’m 66 and just getting started. Wish me luck. Solid clay soil, but I’ll make compost with chickens and a couple sheep. Maybe some pigs next year. Praying to stay healthy and have the stamina to do all I’ve planned.
Looks real good!
Mmmmm Rosemary biscuits and rosemary bread!
How did you attach the plastic to the frame?
I could smell the loam when you opened the door.
when the temp goes below freezing the humidity turns to snow /sleet and falls to the ground.....cold weather plants seem to make it tho like lettuce and try planting garlic from a store bought garlic clove..celery bottoms will re root as well as romain lettuce will re root fast when it is cooler...best of luck great project you have there
Awesome stuff, thanks for posting this! I am thinking of building a small cold frame to get some greens and radishes going over the fall/winter. This is inspiring to see what is possible with not a lot of money invested.
oh look how tall your Lavender got! great job! we are out here in southern Montana, and we are just getting ready to put the skin on ours. almost July and I'm worried about having enough time to grow some veggies!
Always worth the effort I think
Nice greenhouse.
Nice job!
BRILLIANT!!!!! THANK YOU FROM UNALAKLEET ALASKA
Great video.thanks
Really informative video.
I'm planning on moving up to Maine from NJ and I'm trying to learning everything I need to know for farming in the cold and this video and your channel is exactly what I was looking for.
Thank you and keep up the great content
Thanks for joining the community, I hope you have a great move.
Very good work!!!!
you can use cattle panels in you garden too great for tying up tomatoes and cucumbers, if the weather gets to hot, you can add some shade by adding a small tarp over the top. I use 'T' posts to stabilize the sides and bend them over just like your greenhouse. I use telephone poles for the sides of my raised beds. Almost forgot, if you have small livestock, a few of those cattle panels make a great hay crib for big round bales with a tarp thrown over.
They are really pretty amazing. Thats part of the key reason for making these high tunnels. If we want to retire them all the components are incredibly resuable.
they are the BEST fence for my goats... only a problem if the are not disbudded. Keeps them in (Nubians) quiet breed anyway. IF I do ever get chickens, I will use them and add chicken wire could also be used for a chicken tractor.
SOUND GOOD LET KNOW HOW GOOD IT WORK BROTHER BILL
Just subscribed. Whats the name of the greenhouse louver arm, and how does it work?
Amazing video 💖
Grow a wormwood to prevent cut worms from hatching Africa marigolds also help make plant tea with wormwood for additional protection.
Other way around on relative humidity. When the temperature drops the relative humidity goes UP. Cooler air can hold less water and thus when it drops, the amount of water in the air becomes a larger percentage of the amount that can be held. This is what produces dew and frost, the air cools so much that the relative humidity exceeds 100%, and some of the water is forced out onto cool surfaces as liquid water (or frozen water).
That's awesome!
The timber and mesh would be $150 here. The cover materials range from $12-$22p/m. I use a smaller 3x2x2m eBay greenhouse through our winter. It’s a life/death situation for all my plants from frost and cold 🍻🍻
Love this !!
Stinging nettles are YUMMY. I'd hedge the rosemary a bit before spring. What are you using for fertilizer. This is a loaded question for sure. I'd also recommend getting the best skin one can afford.
Nice greenhouse, wel done, I like how you made the structure. Funny the entrance of yours looks like mine ! Anyway i have done a few videos on how to passively heat a greenhouse, they may interest you. They are on my channel under a playlist "urban permaculture"
Feel free to put a link to your videos here so other folks can see it...
Like this :) - ua-cam.com/video/Z-b8VowUY-4/v-deo.html Great video!
I once visited a greenhouse in Alberta near Valleyview that had a stack wall vestibule about 16" thick on three sides opening onto the greenhouse that was double-lined with a good 6" buffer and constant positive air being blow in. Doing that integrating the Chinese solar greenhouse principles would be really gonzo. CSG's can maintain a 30 C differential with only thermal mass and insulated blanket at night. Lotsa options. Major compost is golden of course, as your hens keep reminding us. :)
I bet there are some seriously amazing upgrades that could happen here, but so far, with what we've got, it's pretty decent!
@@edibleacres I'm in a 4a near 3b, so I can appreciate the advantages of the growing zone you're in. Up here standard commercial tunnel greenhouses need subsidized/free used oil for the heaters or they couldn't make it, but that's because the design is inappropriate for the cold. You have a lot more wiggle room. :)
GOOD JOB!
thanks for the video! do you have one on how you built this high tunnel? i am curious what materials you used and where you got them!
When you watch the video, I link to the first videos I did on this last winter. If you search on the channel for greenhouse you can see a few different videos on this and others. Thanks for watching
The intro video and a couple other related ones are in this playlist of his: Greenhouses and Season Extension: ua-cam.com/play/PLihFHKqj6JeqFfSnu90neOyq9eS7oSYLS.html
Do you have the compost packed against the cattle panel/plastic or did you put another board (or something) on that side to prevent that? I built this in my garage a couple months ago and am so excited to be getting it ready. Thanks!
Hey, thanks for the advice. I planted all of them out. I mulched them a little with chips. Your daughter is beautiful, congratulations! I have been wondering when you would fertilize something else besides the kale! Way to go! I just picked a nice salad from my cattle panel greenhouse. I have good momentum going into winter. Mache is my go-to. Do you grow mache? It keeps chugging all winter and reseeds itself. It comes up all over my garden. Thanks again!
Mache is a dream plant for winter... Chickweed and Claytonia have both been amazing cold season reliable crops for us too... Happy growing!
Very cool love to have something like that someday
For under $200 and a day of work it is something you can definitely attain when the time is right.
Sean, you can take root cuttings from the russian kale and get new spring starts a little faster. I find the stem cuttings from overwintered kales tend to bolt to seed but not the root cuttings.
Always offering great technical insight! I haven't played with root cuttings on kale before. You'd take little lateral shoots and replant them in a shallow way to get them to sprout a new shoot? I've played with it a bit on perennials, but never thought to do it with annuals... Cool.
With the roots I have just ripped a root ball up and buried them with the tear poking out of the potting mix. Not all of them sprout but most of them do. The leafy side shoots are easy to root too, but it works best if you use a mist propagator for them till they grow roots.
Brassica napus (which you have there) and Brassica olearacea both propagate vegetatively very easily, I have not tried it with rapa or juncea yet. You could probably take some cuttings of the cabbage in the cellar too.
My friend Telsing turned me onto it. She's got a blog post about it here. www.asterlaneedibles.ca/project-updates/rooting-for-cabbage-cuttings
This might be the year to play around with this a bit!
can you video it and let us know how it works? :)
Great Video...Great Job.
That's awesome
I built one.....loved it....last winter, however, snow got deep, I was away, and one side completely folded over.... I even had a ridge pole. The snow load means I need a new design with steep roof on the cheap......or.....I take the plastic off for the winter.
You made a cattle panel design like this one and it collapsed in on the side? I wonder how deep the snow was for that to happen. Any chance you have pictures of it? So far this design has seemed to be incredible resilient to that, it would be helpful to learn what happened with yours that it didn't hold up. Thanks for sharing.
its great video , just thought i wrap black plastic on the inside of my green house and just from being in there it keep much warmer but also i seen guys who take milk jugs and paint them black and let them get warm in the sun and when sun goes down it acts like heat sink and keeps things warm
Clever!
Shout out to TN
Is it still holding up? I live in Michigan and am seriously thinking about building one like this.....just worry about it holding up to the snow.
Could you not bend and cut and wire those panels to form footings with a slot you place a panel and bend over and thread it into other slot on the other side? That footing can then have a raised floor were you can have raised growing beds?
I'm going to try this soon... @EdibleAcres, at 7' across at the base, what's your center height? Sorry if I missed that. Thanks for the great video
7' across at base, perhaps a bit closer to 7.5' translates into roughly 6'2" in the center. Just enough for my head as a 6' tall person. In the winter I have to take my wool hat off :)
If you are shorter than 6' you can make it 7.5' or even a touch wider. You can always have someone help you make a test arch and think it through... And if your soil is well drained, you can make it wider (shorter in middle) and dig out your pathway a bit. Just be aware it looses snow holding capacity quickly past 7.5' wide...
A thermostat encased in a block will give you a false reading, as the block or granite retains heat or remains cooler depending on the ambient temperature.
The idea with this is to have it flanked with insulative fire brick. The brick shouldn't absorb much if any heat from the sun to transfer into itself and so the temperature the device reads should be that of the air without direct sun at soil level. At least that was the idea...
Just adding a 1" or 1.5 " PVC Piping along arches as ribs and double layering the plastic making an air pocket between the plastic layers should insulate it more and add a zone or two also,... one would think. I just thought about this as I am looking at your vid contemplating how to build mine,... any thoughts anyone...??
Eric K I was thinking the same thing. The only issue would be condensation between the layers.
I've read adding a layer of horticultural bubble wrap to the inside walls of your greenhouse helps a lot. No first hand experience though.
Yes, you're right! I have the plans for building one like that. You're supposed to be able to grow in it all year round, even in the North.
You need to add another layer on the greenhouse , or buy the double walled material with the mesh in the middle
Put the cold frame inside you compost pile and you will get spring sooner :)
Awesome set up, I'll do the same
NICE...........i would like to wish your family a MERRY CHRISTMAS,, from Washington Court House Ohio
Thank you!
I might buy one.
Cool man very nice
Where to you find the automatic temperature controlled opener for the back vent window. What covering did you use.
iteminfo.amleo.com/poly/ - where I get the poly. 6mil uv stabilized
Search 'univent automatic vent opener' to see options for the vent I use
I believe I got mine from Gardner's Supply.
Thanks
Where did you get the heated activated window opener?
Hillbilly Homestead harbor freight sales them.
I used a thing called the 'univent' opener... You can find that through searching and pick it up from whoever you want! Only 10 months to respond! :)
Hillbilly Homestead Surreal.
I always wanted to put corregated flex drain pipe under the ground and blow air from the top of green house under ground and run it with solar cells so at night it shuts down.
I want you to do that! Share some notes on how it works!
Joseph DuPont There is actually a gentleman on UA-cam who has done that very thing in Nebraska and actually grows citrus in the greenhouse during winter!! They sell them and get a fortune because it is local and no middle man :))Watch the video about geothermal heating a greenhouse.
ua-cam.com/video/ZD_3_gsgsnk/v-deo.html this guys a sweet set up here in nebraska
Do you take it down in the summertime, or leave it up with the plastic? Or do you just take the plastic off and leave the frame?
Good question! I'd guess that the plastic sheet would last longer if stored away from sunlight in spring, summer, and fall.
first of all, thank you for your hard work, excellent video. now, i'm sorry for asking stupid question (noobie here) but I just have to know, isn't that plastic going to block the sinlight for plants? I mean it is in now way transparent in this video, and plants do need sun light, don't they? isn't it better to build a greenhouse of glass?
Plastic blocks some light, but this is a compromise I can make since the building of an all glass structure would be MUCH more expensive and time consuming.
If you add a U shaped 10” pipe and bury it 6 to 8 feet down and run it the full length of the bed and add a small solar fan, you can keep the temperature at around 55 to 58 degrees Fahrenheit and grow pants all year around. Also, make the beds 3 feet lower than the outside. Just a thought.
Thanks for the ideas here. The challenge in this particular application is the ground is incredibly wet here so this approach wouldn't work, but great concept for a better drained spot I bet.
Could you please link to a thorough explanation of what you're describing here? (Website, video, or book)
Nice video ! I am glad your cattle panel green house is working out for you ! I must have one :)) I talked to you a while back about skullcap plants , will you still have skullcap plants available come spring ? I live in western Pa..
I still will have skullcap indeed. I don't normally sell it through the website or anything since there isn't a huge amount of interest but remind me in mid-March and we'll get you set up!
Will do sir , thank you very much :))))
Hello there from Maine. I hope Sasha is doing well. I grow black currants and rooted about 50 cuttings in a box. The cuttings were all about a foot long. So now I have nicely rooted cuttings, each with a 6" root ball but it is now mid-October. Should I set them out or bring them into the cellar near a window and set out in the spring? Thanks, John
Plant them out! Either heel them in to a nursery bed outside for the winter or ideally plant them where you hpoe to see them grow. Sounds like a nice success!
That's what we had 10 year a go..yes works very well
Glad to know it works for a while.
saw on youtube where someone put their compost pile up against their greenhouse...with simple modifications it helped to heat the greenhouse due to the decomposition
We're trying that this year with a new passive solar greenhouse attached to our home.
ua-cam.com/video/jaiJktrxVt4/v-deo.html
So how do you calculate when to put plants in this thing in the spring? Temperaturewise are you looking at the day temperatures or the night temperatures? And how do you know if the plastic isn't blocking their ability to soak up nutrients from the sun? Plz advize...thx
I wouldn't say we have any scientific or particular way of doing things with that. It's mainly about how low a temperature can things handle, so tomatoes we're learning, in our area, can't really get started until mid-April. Much hardier things we can get going as early as late feb or early march if we have protection we can put over them. Learning as we go.
The plastic I'm sure has some influence on how much UV goes through and how good the sun is for the plants. I'm sure it has some negative impact but it allows us to grow things when its otherwise impossible...
2 layers will give you 1.5 zones south according to Elliot Coleman.
Thermal mass will help you on the frame... see my channel for that as well.
Rosemary will take down to 20 F.
Hello, I do not remember you updating the progress of the rosemary. Did it make it??
I don't think it did. We're trying it again in a greenhouse attached to our house this winter. I have fingers crossed :)
Cold should raise relative humidity, high temprature/higher energy can support more vapor, thus lowering the relative humidity.
I'm jealous. Also, I recently saw a video where a woman in Alaska is using compost to heat her greenhouse. It seemed to be working well. Maybe you'd have fun with that too.
It's a great idea. I'll do a video at some point soon where we have another greenhouse like this in the chicken area to give them heat for the winter and be ready to do starts in there as well with the unfinished compost under all the beds. When it isn't super expensive or debt-laden to build these there is a lot of room to experiment and play, which is very exciting!
Charles Dowding heats his greenhouse with a hot compost pile too.
Wehave rosemary and lavender and thyme and all throughout the winter outside..in holland...
Same here in Georgia, USA. Lavender is just required to be in a fast draining mix as it rains a good bit.
Yes, I have one rosemary plant that is 7 years old, 3 foot circumference growing outside near Ft. Smith, Arkansas. Winter never bothers.
Nice
I'm from Rochester NY and its winter
this is my first time seeing your channel, im just starting to sprout some potato's and onion inside in water to start my first ever garden
Do you still use this greenhouse today? I got to find a way to plant year round really helps for me to get outside
Good luck!
Yes, we still use this greenhouse and 3 others on our spot. Highly recommended. We have a playlist on greenhouses you can find and check out if you wanted.
Prune back the rosemary to make it thicker and more productive. New York State is too cold for rosemary outside, and it won't get any size in one summer. You may find a single plant of a few years in a corner will produce more than a family can use. My first plant grew four foot across. Rosemary dehydrates well.
Our rosemary didn't make it in this experiment. Perhaps we'll try again!
Excellent. What state you are in
I'll take three
Hope you can answer . I like to start my plants in doors with a
bottom heater. I also have a set of 2 floresent grow lights. I start that in March always … but with a green house I could put em out there at what size plant?
So depends on your climate and so many other variables...
Experiment! I like to sow the seeds directly in the soil in the high tunnel in later winter so they need less watering and protection. In flats they can get zapped really easily.
you know the old saying..."what,s one persons trash, it another persons treasure. that is a nice greenhouse, put two of thoses together, and one can live in it. thank you. i also wish i had taken some type of carpentry. but its never too late to learn. much love and god,s peace be with you
rafiqa11 Good luck living in 90% humidity.
Which growing zone are you please? Thank you! Great video! Very informative!
We're zone 5B central NY
how do you prevent mold and mildew with those high humidity days + isn't it too cold for soil to dry out?
I think the very dry air of winter keeps the mold and mildew down and with enough freezing air the soil can get pretty crsipy and dry.
Rosemary grows almost invasively outside all year in North East Scotland which gets cold.
Hi 😊 How did this set-up hold through the deep freeze this year (2019)? We have a greenhouse out back heard in Wisconsin that I would like to do what your doing there. What state are you in? What do you consider too cold for that kind of growing? Thanks.😀
Certainly got super cold in there! We had no remay or other protection so a bunch of plants got pretty zapped... But the structure did just fine.
We're NY state, zone 5b.
I got build one. How you keep it warm
Things I would love to know
A) what is it cold Frame?
B ) can you explain this magical hinge which opens when it reaches a certain temperature in your greenhouse???
a) cold frame is a mini greenhouse on the ground... if you google it you'll see.
b) read description as I put a link to that magical hinge!
EdibleAcres thank you so much I’m all the wiser now
I guess I will continue my own research on cold frames, from time to time when experience is mold in such circumstances
EdibleAcres I’ve looked everywhere in the vids in your description but unfortunately didn’t find anything about this magic window situation
I’m really curious
@@ladyboywonder9139 read the other comments, he replies to this question elsewhere.
Mistaria Spellsinger I found it
It’s something you can order online and there’s a cylinder filled with wax ... which according to heating and cooling takes care of the problem on its own
Is this dug into the ground? Is the plastic that the only thing keeping it warm? How often do you have to go out and water It?
We don't water very often because it's setup to absorb water from the landscape, by being on contour and having the pathway dug out a bit it takes on water from rains. Plastic is the only thing providing season extension, so it isn't a year round growing space or a 'bioshelter' or anything that intense, just season extension.
Very well engineered.
Thanks for the video.
Check out how BioGreen greenhouse heaters can keep the cold out in winter
I have a large old shed I was thinking of turning into a green house. The thing is i will have to tear off the roof and outside walls. My only question is can you put the plastic on a wood frame or is that a no go? i can always smooth out the wood by sanding it before I do the plastic.
I would be careful with that, but I don't see why not. Perhaps you consider taking some scrap plastic or thicker/older pieces of plastic and covering the wood with that in 1-2 layers first, just little strips stapled down to cover corners and edges and splintery runs, then you can pull your quality plastic over. Just an idea.
your awesome thanks. i have watched tons of videos about greenhouses but never seen a wood frame plastic cover one before. I agree that each board needs to have some sort of protection to not tear the liner. I just came up with the idea of a foam that would be soft to have between the two materials
That could do it, or thin strips of old carpet that can be stapled down first. Box cutter could get you 2" wide strips real easily. Carpet facing out towards plastic, could be free and last a while?