Cattle Panel Greenhouse Review | Four Years Old | Surprising Results
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- Опубліковано 21 лип 2024
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This is a four-year review of my cattle panel greenhouse build. I review how it has held up over the past four years, the things I like, and the things I would change. The review answers "Was it worth it?" and "Would I do it again?". The results may surprise you:)
Here are links to some of the parts used when I made the greenhouse.
Automatic Vent Opener - amzn.to/49zW28Z
Gridwall Connectors - amzn.to/48FFMlv
Greenhouse Plastic - amzn.to/3P2Ftdz
Greenhouse Thermometer - amzn.to/3V06LFi
(DISCLAIMER- I am an Amazon affiliate. I get a small commission that helps support the channel at no extra cost to you)
0:00 Intro
0:20 Wind
0:50 Structure
2:01 Plastic
2:39 Vent
3:01 Untreated Wood
3:21 Hardware
3:39 Shelves
3:58 Changes
4:31 Worth it?
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Here are links for the plans, vent opener, greenhouse plastic, grid wall connectors, and thermometer:
Plans - mtlibertydesign.etsy.com/listing/1396229334
Automatic Vent Opener - amzn.to/49zW28Z
Gridwall Connectors - amzn.to/48FFMlv
Greenhouse Plastic - amzn.to/3P2Ftdz
Greenhouse Thermometer - amzn.to/3V06LFi
(DISCLAIMER- I am an Amazon affiliate. I get a small commission that helps support the channel at no extra cost to you)
Excelent presentation.Clear, concise and too the point.Not too long or short. Thank you!!!!!
Thank you.
I’ve had my current greenhouse since 1992, I regularly get 5 seasons from 4 year plastic.
Good to hear. I will go ahead and use it this season at least.
Thank you. I was on my way to getting a gov subsidized high tunnel but all of the loop holes came up, #1, my wife loosing her insurance because I had to sell produce from my garden, extra income. I've looked at these for several years but you have made up my mind. Again, Thank you. God Bless, stay safe and warm.
Thank you and God Bless you and your gardening efforts. I am going to be building a high tunnel this year as well but I am going to be using T-posts, 1" conduits, and 2x4s. I will be doing a video on that as well.
I would very much like to see a video on your high tunnel build. Thank you for sharing.
@@gregj6907 I don't do that but I will very much give it a try!
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Really appreciate the follow-up. Pavers are a great idea as a "floor" in the greenhouse and alleviates wear and tear from walking directly on the weed cloth. Weed management is even better when putting down cardboard on the grass first, weed cloth on the cardboard and pavers on the weed cloth.
As for snow, if two cattle panel pieces are joined at the top as the "ceiling/roof" to make it wider (example, joining 2 16-foot panels at the top/center) WITHOUT support, a foot of snow will make it sink in the middle. Floor-to-ceiling support beams remedied that. You had single panels (a plus) supported by a full-length beam from front to back (another plus), so snow wasn't an issue. Yay! Even though it's not made from bricks, a third plus is the physics & strength of an "arch" shape/build.
Looking forward to seeing the next greenhouse build. Thank you and God bless you!
Going to be building a high tunnel in the next week... I hope.
I love mine too, hasn't let me down yet. I am 100% stealing that hanging shelf idea, thanks!
Yeah I really like those upper shelves.
I built one myself First one, without upright supports, collapsed under snow load (and not much snow). Rebuilt it after straightening the cattle panels. No problems, ever. Love my greenhouse.
Congrats on the greenhouse build.
You did an exceptional job putting that together. Good job. Great 4 yr review too! I love these kind of vids. Thanks.
Plus at the end there, your garden is beautiful 🤗
Thanks.
Good review, thanks for sharing. I have a new greenhouse I just completed. Mine is not cattle panels but a kit from Amazon. I considered a cattle panel structure but this kit was easier. I like it so far but may add some upper shelves like you have, I liked those. You got a new subscriber so I'll check out your channel. Take care.
As long as you got something to grow in and you are happy that is all that matters. Enjoy the spring. I know I am going to:) Thanks for subscribing. I got some new videos coming up in the next week or so.
Glad this popped up in my feed. This was a very good video on what to do. Thanks.
Thanks. Glad you liked it.
Great video, great presentation. Clear, well-paced, concise, and down-to-earth and authentic. Be sure to hang in there because ... your channel will definitely keep growing. Thanks for the share!!!
Thanks a lot. I really appreciate the feedback. I got some more build videos coming up shortly.
Thank you! I bought your plans last year and got it done just before the snow started falling. I also used the plans to build chicken hot houses so they would have a warm place to go throughout the winter and make compost at the same time. They love it! They have all stood just fine to snow build up and wind. We are going to be putting our seed starts in the greenhouse soon and see how that goes.
Thank you for buying the plans. Sounds like you have been busy. Spring is a great time for the greenhouse. I really enjoy it in there. I hope you do as well. Good luck and thanks again.
Great review! We have some cattle panels with grape vines growing over them, and before the steers were in the freezer I built them a cattle panel shade area in the pasture under some oak trees. My dogs have a cattle panel outdoor area, and right now if I have to leave and it's a nice day, that area is around my little greenhouse so they can go in and out. Really, whoever invented cattle panels has my thanks. And, of course, I use them in the pasture. We lucked out a few years ago and got hoop houses from a commercial place that went out of business, but I like your idea of the landscape fabric underneath the edge. That's something we'll have to do, maybe next year. We are improving things on our little farm all the time.
Thanks. Cattle panels are definitely versatile. I use them for bean trellises as well. Good luck with your farm.
@@mtlibertydesigns Yes. More things have to be vertical this summer, even in a very big garden like mine. :)
I have dogs. I want to see pics or vid of how you did that. Would you Plse. share?
@@TexasLocalProduce It's not anything difficult. T-posts, cattle panels, balin' twine, mine are around a greenhouse that's on the south side of a shed.
I built one and had it for 9 years before I started experiencing any decay of the treated wood. Despite being treated, I had a swarm of termites do some damage on one side just this past year. Started off using home depot plastic sheeting and that only lasted a season. After that I started using greenhouse film which lasted for about 5 years in my Texas sun before replacing. Well worth the money. The foam cushion also started decaying after about the 9 year mark. I've taken down the structure to build another, but it was super inexpensive and useful for several years.
9 years! That is amazing.
First time here and I already subscribed 🎉. Thank you for sharing your greenhouse build as I will be building one soon. Happy gardening mate.
Thanks. You won't regret building yourself one of these. Enjoy!
Excellent video for many reasons; information, clarity of explanations, length. Well done, thank you 👍👍
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Excellent greenhouse
Thanks.
That's a very smart design. I've seen so many failures with the structures themselves. I worked in horticulture and was able to get end curs of greenhouse plastic from a growers that made a huge difference. The looks of the interior shelves too. Great video. New subscriber ~Patty~
Thank you.
Oh your place is beautiful!!!
If I order the plans, does a husband come with it ??? There is just too much to do by myself 😘
Nice job, it looks great !!!
Thanks. Hahaha. Shipping would be quite expensive:) Always a lot to do in the spring. Good luck.
I was thinking the same thing however, I would need a wife to come along with it...🤗
Best presented video I’ve seen on UA-cam in a long time. Thank you! Building on this year
Thank you.
If you want, try the citrus trick on the plastic or other tricks that are used to help Opaque plastics on car headlights.
Interesting. I will give that a try on a small area and see what happens. Thanks.
I assume you are talking about some CITRUS OIL or compound. How does it affect UV Stabilization?
I also have strong winds, snow, & a big field. Lots to learn from this build!
Thanks.
I REALLY like how you hooked the upper shelves. I'll be adding that feature to my greenhouse ASAP!
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All this is good to know! Thanks for the review!
No problem.
Nice setup. I was originally going to do cattle panels also but in 2022 I did 1/2" PVC loops. It was just a through together ideal just to extend the fall. Wasn't expecting it to survive the snow/winter. It did but a big wind took it out after the snow was gone. I started over and went with 2 10' 3/4" PVC in a gothic style (10' x 15'). 5' 1/2" conduit 2' into the ground with 4' re-bar down deeper on each loop. That made a slight leaning 3' knee wall. My center ridge is just over 8'. That extra 2' of height makes a big difference in temp control. Worked out great this winter with not much snow but zero issues with what we did get. Had some big winds again (nothing like you get) and no issue there. I plan to do something similar with the bench setup for the same reason. I might extend mine out an extra 10' to make it 10' x 25'. I might go a little wider and a little taller. Thank you for sharing the video.
Sounds like you got a design in the making. It always takes trials to see if something is going to work. Good luck and thanks for the feedback.
Awesome build and review
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Thanks for sharing this!
No problem
I just ordered your plans !
Garden-cited!!!!
Thanks a lot.
This was a great video. Thanks for that
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Me likey. Now i know why i saved those heavy chrome store display grids ~make great shelves and let light through.
Good idea.
Great video! Thank you for sharing with us.
No problem.
Nice greenhouse!!!!
Thanks.
You did a good video with good info.
Thank you.
I bought your plans last fall and built the greenhouse and am very happy with it. I made mine 12 feet long instead of 8 feet. Instead of anchoring it with rebar I concreted six 4x4's at the corners and in the middle and screwed two rows of 2x6's to make it a little taller. Other than that followed your plans. Your right about extending the weed barrier outside the greenhouse i am having the same problem with weeds growing around the inside edges. I live in Texas and even some days in winter it gets a 100 degrees or more in the greenhouse so I added a ventilation fan. Overall this is a great design, very satisfied with the results, thank you.
Thank you. Glad to hear it
Excellent video. Extremely informative. Thank you for all of the advice.
Thanks.
Love this video... I've always wanted to build one of these but wondered about durability.
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thanks for sharing
No problem.
Great job with build + how you did the video. Even your voice was perfect for it! I live in triple digit tempts here in Texas, so mine has to be somewhat different than yours.
Thanks. Shade cloth and more ventilation for sure
We are having tremendous wind storms here lately. I have been watching my little greenhouse for a week, and yesterday the entire back blew out. My greenhouse is 3 years old from a big box store.
I was outside an hour ago and my neighbor’s greenhouse has lost its roof.
We bought the same kind of greenhouse.
Will look at building a cattle panel greenhouse like yours.
You won't be disappointed.
Have you ever considered going longer and growing your veggies to harvest in one? I've been using these structures as portable field pens for meat birds for a long time.
Yes. I am currently working on a design for an inexpensive high tunnel to grow my tomatoes, peppers, and some fall/winter greens in. When I get it finished I will post a video on the build.
You forgot to say how you tied panel ends to the sill. Fence staples? And you must have used awfully thin rebar?? Looks like you ran it through the 2x6d. Or through screw eyes screwed into the 2x6s? I was thinkibg about using the long threaded rebar with bolts to tie the corner posts to a locust post sunk 3-4 feet into the ground. Wind actually imploded one if those big pre-fab storage sheds on my land. I was thinking, it needs triangular bracing and I was doing that the same week that wind blew in the front door and exploded it! People say, "oh, the walls (4x8 siding) will brace it." It will for awhile. But I brace Everything now. I build better than some men who came before me. I had a big barn that was oak boards. It collapsed like a big cardboard box after a retaining wall collapsed on obe side.
I show all that in my other video. ua-cam.com/video/K67-Jc6qpUY/v-deo.html Let me know what you think. Plus a lot more in my plans. mtlibertydesign.etsy.com/listing/1396229334
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very good, I got one too,.
They are very useful.
I've had your plans in my cart for quite a while. The one thing holding me back is height. Do you know how tall the walking space in the greenhouse is? I don't want to have to walk bent over in it
The head height from the ground to the bottom of the ridge is 6'. I have an addendum to the plans that I did for somebody quite a while ago that adds 5 1/2" to the overall height. If you buy the plans just message me and I can send you the addendum. It also adjusts the door size as well.
it would be helpful if you could share the budget and time to build one similar to this GH.. thanks..
Here is the build video. ua-cam.com/video/K67-Jc6qpUY/v-deo.html. The estimated cost that I did in Jan 2023 was $650 with new materials. Material prices have come down since then and some of the people that have been building from my plans say that they are coming in well under $600.
Where would be the best place online to order the 6 mil
plastic? Also, wondering which brand automatic door-vent opener or brand do you suggest? Thank You.
I put a link in the description where you can get the vent and plastic from Amazon. Here are the links. I get a small commission from these. It does not cost you any more to use them. It helps me produce the videos. Thanks:
Automatic Vent Opener - amzn.to/49zW28Z
Gridwall Connectors - amzn.to/48FFMlv
Greenhouse Plastic - amzn.to/3P2Ftdz
Greenhouse Thermometer - amzn.to/3V06LFi
What keeps people or animals from getting in when the whole corners are left open except for plastic?
I have not had that problem in the four years since I built it. I guess it is a possibility that an animal or human could rip it open if they were determined to do so. However, a human could just use the door.
Do you provide any additional heat or does the sun provide enough heat to keep it warm? I live in Northwestern Montana in the mountains. We see temps drop 30 to 40 below at times during the winter. Thanks
This is what I do in the should seasons. ua-cam.com/video/Uh4tY8u1Mcw/v-deo.html
Thanks I used yours for some inspiration and build my own in a different way. Probably spent way to much but it’s really nice. What do you heat yours with. I’m going to be using a diesel heater.
I have been using a Mr Buddy heater with a wood stove fan rigged on top of it for the past four years. I have been thinking about switching over to a diesel heater.
@@mtlibertydesigns i always thought it would be bad for the plants to have a heat source without a vent. Your plants look great tho.
Thanks@@charger7022
@@mtlibertydesigns if you don’t mind me asking what should I shoot for as a minimum night time temp In the greenhouse. We may still get some nights in the upper 20’s if I have the thermostat set at 50-55 is that good. Mostly young vegetables tomatos,peppers etc. we sprout them in the house and want to move them out here after they are an inch or 2.
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I like to make sure it does not get below 50 degrees in the greenhouse if I have tomatoes or peppers in the greenhouse.@@charger7022
what state are you in? Do you ever get large hail? I'm in the plains of colorado so hail is a big issue and I need the plastic to hold up.
Also, how easy is it to change the plastic or do repairs?
This is great looking . I currently use cattel pannels in this shape as a chicken run.
oh, also, do you still need to harden off your plants before they go in the garden?
I live in Ohio. We do get severe weather and some hail. I guess I am not sure what large hail is. If we are talking golf ball size then no. 1/4" to 1/2" is about the largest I have seen around here and it has held up to that. I harden off my plants before I put them in the garden. Hope that helps.
I used weed barrier. After not using the greenhouse for five weeks i went to use it, the entire thing was full of weeds as tall as i was. They were near impossible to remove because they were woven through the weed fabric. If you use the greenhouse all the time yeah but it didn't work for me.
It is definitely something you need to stay on top of as a maintenance issue with a greenhouse.
If you don't want to remove weeds manually, you need to me as low as possible, and then do 1 of these:
1. lay black or clear plastic over soil for 6 weeks;
2. Lay overlapping pieces of corrugated cardboard (NO TAPE!), moisten WELL, then add a an inch of soil and another cardboard, MOISTENING EACH LAYER OF CARDBOARD. Layer until you have a 7 layer garden lasagna.
You can plant directly into this. To block weeds where you don't plan to plant, you can screed with sand and put pavers immediately over 25 year fabric.
How can I get the connectors for the cattle panels?
Thanks.
I got everything except the wood from Amazon. Here are the links. I get a small commission if you buy through these links. It does not cost you any more than normal. Thanks.
Automatic Vent Opener - amzn.to/49zW28Z
Gridwall Connectors - amzn.to/48FFMlv
Greenhouse Plastic - amzn.to/3P2Ftdz
Greenhouse Thermometer - amzn.to/3V06LFi
Is there a benefit on total cost when comparing this to an option like shelter logic?
I think the biggest benefit is that it does not blow away. Plus for a couple hundred more dollars than the shelter logic stuff you get something that you can use for quite a long time.
My father in law and I are in the process of building one now. We bought base blocks for the corners and in the middle beside the rebar to have a more secure foundation and will fill in the sides with rocks so there are no gaps. We did this because my back yard has a slight incline to one direction. I live in an area that get's hail. Ussually it's no bigger than peas but every four or five years we get worse. Should I be concerned?
If you are using the 6mil greenhouse plastic I don't think so. If it is really big hail then that might be an issue.
@@mtlibertydesigns I took that off of the comment without realizing you had comments already. That's what I was thinking. The plastic is only supposed to last four years anyway. Not extremely expensive to replace which is nice.
@@mtlibertydesigns We are keeping to the design as much as possible. The list has higher prices than it cost around here also so I am saving money. FYI The list said 5/8 inch rebar not half inch. My father-in-law noticed it immediately. It does say 1/2 inch in the instructions though.
Glad I got the rebar right in a couple of places:) @@Bland-79
Thank you for your 4-year review. We bought your plans in May 2023. Was built over the summer. Great plans! We made it 10 ft long vs 12 feet for our backyard. Can’t wait to start some seedlings mid-March. Love the automatic window!
I do not understand how the rebar was installed?
The cam only shows the base
Can you please explain?
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I drilled holes through the 2x6 side pieces with a spade bit that was just big enough for the rebar to fit through. I also had an extension for the spade bit. There were three holes in each side piece, one in the middle and one on each end about 1' foot from the ends. Hope that helps.
Is there a reason you can't remove the mulch and use pavers?
Not at all. I am trying to decide how I am going to lift it up and adjust the height. I might do a video on the retrofit.
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Pallet wood for the shelves to save money ?
I used the cheap untreated fence pickets from Lowes. You can get them for $2.48 each right now. However, you could use the heat-treated pallets.
Is there an approximate cost for this project? $300-$500 or more?
I priced this project with new materials in January of 2023 at $650. Materials have come down considerably since then. I would think you could build this for $550. Again all new materials.
Do you have deer in your area? I'm wondering if the 6mil plastic would be quickly ruined by hungry deer... Great video.
Thanks. Lots of deer. Never a problem with them and the greenhouse.
Can you stand up straight inside of it?
I can. I am 5'9". Without the mulch' and standing on the ground' it is 6'0" to the underside of the ridge.
Nighttime low temps?
Depends on the time of year. I use the greenhouse for the shoulder seasons.
Have you had any hail in the last 4 years?
Yeah we had a pretty good hail storm last year. Lots of vehicle and roof damage. No problem with the greenhouse.
Nicely done
The first one I built was a 2 panel one.
I secured the panels together with 8 inch zip ties...
when a tree fell on it and crushed it -
I was amazed to see that none of the zip ties had broken even though the steel panels were nearly flattened.
I didn't mind too much because it allowed me to build this
ua-cam.com/video/jUcXq0C30XQ/v-deo.htmlsi=kovrN6G9ALhzCo9Z
I like it. I was thinking of doing something similar but a much smaller version. Nice job.
@@mtlibertydesigns Thank you
Holy shishkebabs! this is a heck of a DIY project. There is nothing entry level here.
Just take it one step at a time. That is how you learn any skill.
Now a inner liner of plastic. It's a ++ !
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