North Face Flight Vectiv Review: We Test the World's First Carbon Plate Trail Shoe
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- Опубліковано 25 січ 2021
- Carbon plated shoes have dominated the road running market for the past 12 months. However, 2021 marks the first ever trail shoe that utilises one: The North Face Flight Vectiv.
It's a shoe designed for long-distance running specifically over technical, mountainous terrain and features a protective mesh upper, a rocker midsole and a rubber outsole.
Tom and Nick have been testing the shoe over a range of surfaces and distances to find out what it's best used for, if it's worth investing in and how a carbon plate performs on the trails.
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00:31 - Intro
00:46 - Stats
01:07 - Design
05:35 - How’s The Fit?
07:27 - Running Performance
17:05 - Verdict
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Thanks for the really thorough review!
You're most welcome.
Mirrors a bunch of my thoughts - works well on long hard packed terrain. Actually quite hard to test in a UK winter. I had hard trails in the Peak District... but they had lots of snow on them!
Interesting to see how this stacks up against the Craft CTM ultra carbon as it has more of s smooth buffed out trail outsole appeal. Your absolutely correct with U.S. in the Southwest having hard buffed trails vs soft wet fell running conditions like UK or the U.S. East Coast...
Thanks for your (painfully) honest review! Will cheerfully let other laboratory animals perfect this prototype.
Haha thanks!
What material midsole is? EVA? otherwise Enduris model with nylon plate looks good..a bit like endorphin speed/trail. But these are pricey: series 140, 160, 200€. So waiting for the Trail then..
need to find a rocky sky race to test them properly... while in lockdown!
How do they fit? My feet’s dimension is size 10 in length but it is wide. So I always use size 11 with nikes.
Excellent! Thank you. Just got mine. Will decide between the Vectiv and the Craft CTM Carbon Ultra for my next 100-mile in 3 weeks. The Craft is a qualitative improvement over many ultra cruisers and also has a carbon plate. Will do a 50 K run this Saturday in the North Face and would be glad to report back.
Let us know how it goes.
Give us an update then 🤣
@@paulmulks moi? The Vectiv breaks down quickly and was an expensive disappointment. Whereas the Craft CTM Carbon Ultra enabled me to set a PR in the 100 mile of 22:42:20 at age 57 ;-)
@@TrailrunnerTroy Cracking effort mate well done 👏🏻 Thanks for getting back to me, I've been looking at the Craft CTM's but not purchased yet as I've been concerned that they are more suited for road running?? Would you say that's incorrect?
@@paulmulks thank you - gracious of you! Here’s what I think: 1. The Craft CTM Carbon Ultra is amazing for the second half of a 100-miler. My last 15 miles of the race were among my fastest. 2. It is a road-trail shoe. Here in Colorado the platform is too tall and lacks stability even for moderate trails. It isn’t remotely a technical shoe! Works incredibly well on gravel and hard pack non-technical trails and roads, and is fine on tarmac. 3. It is too heavy for distances under 50 K, although bearable. 4. The plate enables you to hold a pace even at the relatively slower ultra speeds. You can “load” the spring of the plate and pop forward consistently given the steep drop. Happy trails!! Let me know how it goes.
I appreciate the fact that you got those dirty ...and kept them that way.
Always. We're not in the pristine clean shoes gang.
The shoe definitely does great on road and hard packed trails. From the short video, it appears that Nick is a heel striker; shoes like this one are designed for midfoot and forefoot striking. Could that be the reason for his pain? Thanks, mates!
Nick is indeed a heel striker but those are my feet on film (Tom), and I'm definitely not. Might be because I was trying to film a slomo, awkwardly.
Like the idea of these, with a 100k ultra in June and no idea what shoes to get this are looking like a good option!👍🏻
They could well be a great option for that, as long as it doesn't get too muddy!
@@TheRunTesters ye I guess so, either that or Hoka Evo Speedgoat are on my list to find out info on, thanks guys great content as usual 👍🏻
How would you rate this vs the Salomon Slab Ultra 3 / Sense Ride 3?
Interesting that the Vectiv series all have plates. Enduris has a TPU plate, the Infinite has a Pebax plate and the flight with the carbon plate....interesting, wonder what else is different.
Yeah difference seems very small if they share same midsole otherwise.
I think at 200 US dollars I think you’re gonna get a lot more hours out of these vs a Vaporfly. I would say no to this being a road shoe but if there are long lengths of road in between dirt sections, go for it. I know I am!
I have already seen trail carbon trainers about 2 months ago. A nike pair. I don't know which one came first?
The Nike Acg mountain fly. There is also a low top version coming out in February
Do you recommend this for road running as well? Thanks!
No the greatest for road running. Of road is more suitable.
It does a good job on road but it's not specifically designed for it. It can't compete with actual road shoes, but works well as a transitional shoe if you're running trails with road sections.
50 or 15 miles?
Hi, got the shoe yesterday and took it (maybe foolishly) out for 50km, but had exactly the same pain. Inside of right foot, and it’s actually slightly bruised but can’t see what it could be. Also, top left foot was in pain.too, had to swap shoes at 42km... shame as like the midsole feel with the plate ... good review !
Can I ask what sort of shoe do you normally use? May explain the side pain we’ve experienced
Hi, thanks for sharing your experience! It’s an odd one. I use so many different shoes tbh, always testing something new. Haven’t had this pain from anything else though
@@TheRunTesters same here... must be a pressure: lockdown thing. The heel wasn’t very secure.. shame, like the midsole.
What about the Nike mountain fly? Didn't that release a few months ago?
Feels like more of a concept shoe/fast hiking option to me (Nick), but yep it has a plate
ACG hasn't put out an actual performance product since the early 2000's
@@Ranar14 I guess it all depends on what you want to get out of a shoe really.
I'm looking for comparisons between say the Vectiv Infinite and the Sense Ride 4
Infinite is lighter, more cushioned and faster.. And most important difference my opinion is that the running feeling is a lot better with The north face..
It is a real shame there's no deeper lugged option for the UK/muddy trails.
Absolutely, I've just reviewed these and made the same comment! Peak Proof is the channel
1mm carbon plate on the insole of the reebok floatride run fast pro. That's my best fast/agile/lightweight trail shoe..😅
Does not surprise me...
It has a plate? I had no idea
All 3 Vective Models are "plated". The lightest one is Carbon plated.
If you compare EVA, TPU, pebax, Nylon-Compound, Fiberglass, Aramide/Kevlar/Nomax and Carbonfibre-plates, carbonfibre is the lightest and very stiff, while e.g. pebax has enormous rebound-flex as a plate.
Anyway, my adidas FlexCloud have a Nylonplate and rocksolid heelcup. The base is from a Trail-Running model. The adidas Kanadia 8.1 TR.
The good Thing with the Full-Board Plates are Limited rain-gutter-effect.
White trail shoe, very bad idea :D
Haha seems to be a trend atm!
It’s a racing shoe. Go into it with a clean shoe, come out dirty. It’s satisfying. Hopefully you understand
Who the fuck would want a white trait shoe?
Topo Athletic is King 👑
1st
Sooooo....reading between the lines here....these shoes are unsafe in mud for one reviewer and so painful for the other reviewer that he can't wear them. Disappointing to hear. I'll have to pass.
No grip.
Over priced.
White trail shoes.
I certainly wont be buying them !!