If Indiana Jones and the Great Circle was an animated film, I can guarantee it would've been cheaper to make and much more successful critically and with fans than Dial of Destiny. Which had a bad script, awful CGI (dunno about you, but that film to me always LOOKED and FELT like a crappy Disney remake) and it went over budget and didn't make enough money back to make up for the losses, thus bombing. The only way I see a Great Circle animated movie failing at moneymaking despite being good is if they go out of their way to sabotage the marketing and distribution ala Transformers One.
@@A-pf6bk True, once upon a time they did that a lot: Ghostbusters, Beetlejuice, The Mask, Jumanji, Godzilla '98, Men in Black and to an extent Batman TAS since its tone and visual style was heavily based off the Tim Burton duology. Then even earlier they did cartoons for R-rated stuff like RoboCop and friggin RAMBO, but those were honestly cashgrabs. Nowadays they do it less (shows based off ANIMATED films don't count, we're talking live-action), but it happens once in a while. Most recently I've heard that the Terminator anime is pretty solid, or at the very least instantly superior to all the post-T2 sequels because it's its own timeline/version of the apocalypse instead of messing with the Connors/making T2 pointless for the millionth time.
DreamWorks was created to become the anti-Disney, but with their sub-par shows based on their franchises and now a live action remake, they eventually became a lot like Disney.
I hate how people treat animation with such contempt in the west that we feel the need to make it more "adult" by making it live action. Its so depressing as an artist and someone who enjoys the art of others. Especially animations
I dunno, i think most movie makers in the west hate paying animators specifically. It's why we really can't have the equivalent of japan's anime market, any time we DO have some form of animation it's made in 3D in the fastest way possible. If it's not that it's the polar opposite where they overwork the animators and they end up quitting like spiderverse. This goes as far back as Walt Disney hating when animators unionized. Japan doesn't have that problem because literally everyone is pressured into overworking and hates their life.
Do people really treat it with contempt? I mean, I know Disney is soulless and basically dumped 2d when they found pixar and only really cares about profit, regardless if they happen to make an exceptional film or a pos, but I don't hear everyday people saying they hate animation. I actually think adult animation does very good in the west. South park and the Simpsons are some of the longest running tv shows of all time. I think if Disney and the studios that copy them would put out animation films on par with the ones of the Disney Renaissance era, people would watch, buy as much useless merch and still be insanely obsessed with the Disney brand and animation films. Disney just doesn't want to do that unless they believe it's the most lucrative choice. Maye if the remakes and reboots and live action slop films keep bombing, they'll start looking to make changes.
And the funny thing is, so far when it comes to these live action remakes, the original animated versions are always actually more mature, in the way the story and characters are presented. Take Mulan for example: the original there are stakes, character growth, lessons to be learned...Then in the remake Mulan is just an invencible Super Sayin who solves every problem with her fists.
Say what you will about how Japan treats their animators (or workers in general), but at least they had the right idea about making anime for just about any genre for all ages.
As others have mentioned, I don't think it's some contempt conspiracy, it's just cheaper to make a cash grab remake of a beloved classic live action than it is to do animation.
If this live-action one was more based on the actual book, I wouldn't have minded. But no, they choose to pull a 2019 Lion King and just make a shot for shot remake that is devoid of life.
Or maybe hear me out just make another animated movie? is it seriously that hard? fans have been wanting another HTTYD movie since the last one in 2019
The thing that frustrates me is how stunningly gorgeous the 2010 movie is. It captures the environment so well, and is as good as you’ve come to expect from Roger Deakins. I’m gonna guess this remake won’t have the same level of care.
You can tell from how Toothless looks. He still looks like a cartoon dragon, but with slightly more texture details. That just looks so out of place. Like the Woody Woodpecker live action movie 😂
“What if we make the exact same movie again, but for young adults that refuse to explore non-mainstream slop and manchildren that think their masculinity is threatened by watching animation?”
Haven't watched the video yet, but I have seen the trailer, and as an avid fan of how to train your dragon, I feel as though I could make a video in the spirit of Adam's Lion King 2019 video about this movie once it comes out. After seeing everything in the trailer, I highly doubt that this is it going to break new grounds in storytelling or even visual spectacle, and I really hope it doesn't do well so that DreamWorks doesn't get the idea of remaking all of their movies too
@@James-so4mf I think DreamWorks Animation is going to completely repeat the exact same mistake as what Disney is doing to their live action remakes to animated films.
I fully admit, I'm gonna see it. But, my 10 year old grew up on the cartoons and there isn't words for how much I love the first one (the second one broke my heart and it was the first time he cried watching a movie, so I have mixed feelings on that one). He's pumped to see it, so I'm all in.
It's been theorized the film got made in order to promote the HTTYD attraction opening at Universal next year. What's openly known is that the film's director, who also co-directed the original film, wasn't sought by the studio, and upon learning they were doing a temake he stepped in. So basically he did it in order to prevent the studio from bastardazing the OG film, and not let anyone else but him to fuck it over.
honestly a HTTYD live action COULD be really cool if they redesigned it from the ground up, really committed to the scottish/celtic setting and did their own thing but no they just literally remade the animated movie... It's so dumb. The series isn't even that old so like whyyyy?
@@kbucket that’s nice, but they were still very much Scandinavian and Viking more than they were Celtic. The Vikings settled there, they did not come from there.
As someone who adored the httyd trilogy, this shit makes no sense. A) why are we remaking a movie series that came out just over a decade ago? B) this casting looks so subpar (stoic isn't beefy enough, hiccup is too fuck boy, the acting looks aaaass, Etc) Also, what can they add that the first movie didn't do? Especially considering how well made that movie is, you're not going to do anything that betters the movie. It's just Gunna be the same shit beat for beat
I saw somewhere that they had early screening of the movie and obviously it’s not finished just yet but apparently they said it’s basically a shot for shot remake with only a few new things.
@@spinningpeanut they changed some of it what are you talking about? Mason Thames as hiccup? Nico parker? Nick frost? The only og is Gerard butler and with all due respect to him, his look does not match animated stoic
@@RenniUltraFox I want to see the live action version of the movie. I don't feel as compelled to watch something I already watched as opposed to a remake.
It’s actually crazy to me that people are excited for this movie when it’s literally the exact same thing but with real people instead of the characters, being animated and voiced by voice actors. That’s literally the only difference. They somehow made toothless look really fucking weird like I don’t even understand what they were thinking when and I understand if they changed his design at all, people would be all pissed but seriously seriously there’s just some things that are better left animated and this is one of them same with the lion King
I find that a lot of people tend to favor DreamWorks over the simple fact that they're not Disney. So, this might actually do better than most Disney remakes because of that.
From the looks of the trailer, this movie is probably just a complete shot-for-shot remake of a movie that was ALREADY 3D ANIMATED. This is literally just How To Train Your Dragon: RTX Edition. What experience could this POSSIBLY offer that the original didn’t offer already? Who cares if the animated dragons are slightly more defined? WHO IS THIS MOVIE EVEN FOR?
I know the company is at fault for making these in the first place, AND doing them just to get tax write-offs, but at the same time, I think we also need a bit of accountability from audiences that sometimes make these things huge hits in the first place. Guys. *Stop going to see these things.* The more they bomb, the more the shareholders will think to let go of making this stuff to exploit our already screwed up tax system. Spend the weekend seeing the original animated trilogy again instead. Go see another impressive independent film in theaters as they're usually at your local AMC. Stream the best movies of last year, Wicked's probably gonna be available on home media by the time this comes out. Play a recent video game that rocked. Just stop paying to see this grey, muddy, live-action slop.
The reality is, no matter how many times people online try to discourage others from seeing it, these movies still make money from the general public including families off the brand name alone. That’s why boycotts online almost never work for big name movies.
@@APPictures9 See also the gaming circle. If your only exposure to Pokemon leading up to the release of Sword & Shield was online groups & the dumpster fire raging at the time that was Dexit discourse you would have expected those games to flop hard, not outsell every generation that wasn't the first two. Gaming boycotts famously never work.
@@Luschan Very true. I'm gay and can still give someone my opinion on if I think a particular woman is attractive looking. I'm assuming and hoping the comments about "OMG I can't believe Adam came out as Bi" are just jokes.
One reason why the live-action HTTYD is releasing next year is because it coincides with the Universal Orlando Epic Universe park during the same summer, and it has an area themed around the HTTYD franchise. This movie would be amazing if it stops to advertise the Universal theme park exactly like in the Mike Myers Cat in the Hat movie.
I got the trailer for The Bad Guys 2 both times I went to the movies recently. First before Wicked and the second time I saw it (before Moana 2) they cut out the part with the snake and bird making out. No idea why but I have my suspicions.
Everyone frothing over seeing the same thing again but with a hyper-realistic textures. Also for all the kids who are adults now believing Dreamworks is giving them an 'upgraded adult version' because it's live-action now. Surely, this will be the time for them to add more mature themes and writing, riiiiight? They can't just be copy and pasting the same thing but worse, riiight? But look at hyper-realistic toothless guys! Based off the animated movie that already had realistic detail.
They keep making these crap cause people keep going to theatres to watch them. Either cause they are nostalgia obsessed man-babies or cause they like "hate-watching". The money is all that matters.
Toothless model is so weird. It has way too many details, and it looks very... Bumpy? It has those "deep-fried" memes energy and I'm not going to elaborate
adding more details with more sharpening filters definitely makes it look more realistic, just like when you take a photo and it doesnt look real enough so you have to turn the edge sharpening up so much that there are black cartoon outlines around everything! that's how you know it looks realismerest!
I love Epic music. One of my favorite genres, but so many now a days are just blasting the brass section so much. I hate it. That isnt good Epic music. Epic remixes just take the OG song and make it overwhelming. It sucks. Everything sucks. 😭
Trailer music actually used to have a decent and original melody behind it. Look at the Raimi spiderman movie trailers. That's how you do it. Not over the top manipulative. Just showcasing cool action scenes with some great music. Now movies are so desperate for your attention that it has the opposite effect on me. I get annoyed by the constant barrage of sound. I feel like an old man. "Turn that sh!t down" 😂
Remember when everyone hated the remake of Psycho because it was a shot-for-shot copy? Why is this okay now? I don't understand why people are OK with this crap. I love the original. If you’re going to do a remake, then do something different!
We're in the slop era of films, aren't we? It's not even a distinct decade when it comes to movies and we're halfway through. At least I can look back to other decades and point out what the general "vibe" of that period was when it came to films. In the 2000s, fantasy seemed to be the main focus when it came to high-profile movies. Harry potter, eragon, Narnia, Pan's Labyrinth, Pirates of the Caribbean, Golden Compass, Shrek, spiderwick chronicles, twilight, and obviously The Lord of the Rings trilogy. Varying degrees of quality, but at least it's distinct. The 2010s we had a crapload of sci fi films that people still talk about. Interstellar, Prometheus, Arrival, the Martian, Ad Astra, Enders game, Blade Runner 2049, edge of tomorrow, elysium, the planet of the apes trilogy, inception, mad max fury road, gravity, annihilation. I'm probably forgetting quite a few, tbh. I guess you could say capesh!t, but I lump that in with Sci fi, tbh. What do we have this decade in terms of high profile big budget movies? Ummm I guess Dune? That's the only franchise of substance I can think of. Ummm beyond that, it's just slop. Remakes and sequels to remakes and live action reboots. Video game movie slop as well. Just neverending garbage. I'm not saying there wasn't garbage in the 2000s and 2010s either. There definitely was, but in terms of high budget mainstream films, it just feels like there was some semblance of soul. Once again, now it's just blatant pig slop to the max. Just nothing distinct or fun about these godd@mn "movies".
@@bilbobaggins9451 ignore The Princess CH, he spam comments about the live action HTTYD film being a promotion for the next attraction at Universal Studios.
Oh trust me. It'll make money. People are dumb beyond measure. But absolutely nobody will rewatch it again. It'll just end up in the landfill like Beauty and the beast 2017 and Lion king 2019. Just something for dumb millennials to point at and go "I member that." Then they leave the theater and go "that waz gud." And they wait for the next butchering live action film and consume that. I hate it here.
If people barely watch remakes, "The Lion King" remake wouldn't have been listed as the highest-grossing animated film of all time, until the release of "Inside Out 2."
2:38 Same feel, the same touch, and the same waste for the last 15 years making it retell just like the original movie. Why bother this? It will be a “Lilo & Stitch” retold problem even if it is the same style as this one, nobody tells the difference. The same director who did two original films just wanted to be real, did not very well proper direction, and just played it safe.
You know what's funny? Back in the day they animated a short video about Toothless being an film actor (there was also the John Show guy, god damn I can't remember his name), and it looked MILLION times better then this. Ten years ago. UPD. Got corrected, it was 6 years ago (but my point still stands)
that was in the promotional material for httyd the hidden world, so more like 5 years ago- not 10, but you're absolutely correct. that series of advertisements were far more entertaining and creative than "here's a shot-for-shot remake of a great film but we sucked out most of the charm and passion and will change arbitrary details without knowing the reason those original details were there in the first place"
HTTYD is going to be a shot for shot remake. So most of the important creative decisions in the film - costume, script, cinematography, score - have already been made. Any creative expression is chained to the decisions of the original animation team. Nobody working on this film gets creative liscense to try something new, and that garuntees it will fail. The soundtrack will be exactly the same except "more epic" (and therefore, worse). The cast will be a blown-out photocopy with the same lines and worse acting. The dragons *genuinely* look awful, I don't want to imagine these hitting the toy aisle. Yeah, I've watched Illumination desperately try to squeeze more money out of this IP for half a decade now and I'm ready for it to end 💔 The first two films were spectacular and I wish DreamWorks still had control.
I never thought I'd be here... Httyd and its sequel are still my favorite movies, but the third took me out of the franchise, and this remake just makes my distaste for the path the franchise has taken so much worse.
if they're making it live action they could've at least brought out real alive dragons, smh edit: imagine the live action shot-for-shot remake, but every dragon is replaced with a dog. now THAT i would watch.
Is animation *inferior?* Then why do we have to re-make animations into live-action? Isn't each medium better at telling certain kinds of stories than the other?
Um, Gerard Butler is in the movie because it's the same guy who played two dad roles in a “Dragon” film if you looked closely in the trailer or behind the summary.
DreamWorks Animation is now going into the “We’re back, we’re so back, it’s over, it’s so over” meme situation. DreamWorks Animation has become Disney live action 2.0 when they unnecessarily make live action films.
The only thing I retained from the HTTYD trailer when I saw it in theaters was that the constant drumming made the ad twice as loud as every other preview in the theater. And since the movie was an IMAX showing in a crappy amc the speakers’ audio distorted for most of it Also pour one out to the Bad Guys fans who shipped the snake and the wolf, this had to have been their 2nd plane
Vore! Also, I noticed that the Hiccup actor wasn't acting well at all. They moved from point to point when they put their hand up, following their cues without adding meaning to the motion. It seemed lifeless.
Exactly! It's so wooden, like a little kid doing his first ever performance. No life in it. Just a robotic head turn. In the original, Hiccup is visually nervous, he hesitates to put out his hand and he turns his head while he breathes out nervously. You can feel his emotions, his fear but also how gentle he is being. The remake? Just sticks his arm out and turns his head. No body language used. You could get more emotion out of a plank.
this looks dope. now, when they inevitably fuck up the writing of the story (for example, the lion king), then i may have a problem, because for me, it being live-action isn't automatically an indication that it will be bad. but until then, im excited to see it although, one of the writers of the original HTTYD is going to be writing the live action version, so... this has a small chance of being decent.
I respect Adam's opinion on how to Train your Dragon. My only problem with him is him saying toothless is like a dog. Yes, he is like a dog but that's not the whole point. They saw him as a terrifying creature at first and so did hiccup. But when hiccup met him he sees him for what he is. a kind creature whos just trying to defend itself. It's a perfect example of don't judge a book by its cover so it's kind of silly for someone to say it's just a dog when there's so much more to that than just the dog😊 that's in my opinion at least.
toothless was also a mix of a lot of animals behaviour-wise in the original, but was primarily based on leopards and cats. it was dean deblois who later decided to make toothless aggressively doglike (a decision i still dislike) in the sequels bc he likes dogs and felt like it would make toothless more relatable (toothless was already incredible on his own. he didn't need to fall so hard into the "every animal is now a domestic dog" trope) the first HTTYD is one of my favourite movies of all time, but i respect that adam wasn't a fan. generally speaking, he and i have very different movie tastes and i'm really not much of a movie watcher in general. I dig why he feels the way he does.
@dragonlover7196 don't get me wrong I respect his opinion and yours too. I was just sharing my opinion. It one of my all time favorite films and a massive inspiration to me.😊
As far as the How To Train Your Dragon remake, I’m just hype for more John Powell music. That franchise has my absolute favorite soundtracks, so I’m always down for more.
As a kid I loved the original How to Train Your Dragon book, when the original movie came out it felt like a lot of the book's charm was lost in translation. This is an even more watered down version of that. Depressing
Its just weird how these live action remakes animate the non human characters to look exactly the same as their original version but with better textures.
cant sell toys if the new design has smaller more complicated features, so you keep it the same. this also means that they can keep using the same toy designs that theyve been using for the last 15 years. (but theyll probably make new designs anyway, because they cant possibly stop wasting money on pointless garbage. it's the only thing coroprations are capable of)
…my god…this is too much and my eyes 👀 are killing me. They also made Kitty Kat (Danielle Brooks's voice there as well) a muscle-tough girl as a bisexual figure, making Borat’s daughter voice a plus-size warthog and the raven who voiced “But I a Cheerleader and Poker Face” as Doom. …I take it back, that Doom chick was something. 🫶...oooh the snake make-out grief is top-notch.
When I saw the trailer for the live action HTTYD in a theater it looks so much like they just took the original movies CG animation and composited in human actors. It looks so uncanny and bad.
Don't overestimate the amount of creative freedom a director might have. I heard that the director for "Looney Tunes: Back in Action" had a different concept for the film, but the studio interfered.
i have never even heard of this bad gay movie let alone a sequel but at the very least animation has a style to it unlike every disney movie since tangeled which all look absolutely identical
His reaction to the bad guys 2 was everything!!!!😂😂 Absolute gold!! As for how to train your dragon... I hope it bombs at the box office, such levels of greed should be punished.
You know i was really hoping this would be actually good as a classic "screw disney" DreamWorks move but oh well. God knows they need the quick cash more than Disney i guess
He was actually modelled after lots of animals, mainly panthers but also cats, axolotls, salamanders, dogs, bats, horses and sharks. Adum saying "it's just a dog" is incredibly infuriating.
God I must be so out of touch. I never realized that The Bad Guys was a movie that came out, let alone the sequel. As for HTTYG, I watched the first movie when it came out. I thought it was fun but it didn’t leave a major impact on me and I haven’t paid attention to anything that came out afterwards related to the franchise
We should try to normalize making animated movies based off live action films
If Indiana Jones and the Great Circle was an animated film, I can guarantee it would've been cheaper to make and much more successful critically and with fans than Dial of Destiny.
Which had a bad script, awful CGI (dunno about you, but that film to me always LOOKED and FELT like a crappy Disney remake) and it went over budget and didn't make enough money back to make up for the losses, thus bombing.
The only way I see a Great Circle animated movie failing at moneymaking despite being good is if they go out of their way to sabotage the marketing and distribution ala Transformers One.
Finally someone else says it
They do. They just usually make them a TV series.
@@A-pf6bk True, once upon a time they did that a lot: Ghostbusters, Beetlejuice, The Mask, Jumanji, Godzilla '98, Men in Black and to an extent Batman TAS since its tone and visual style was heavily based off the Tim Burton duology.
Then even earlier they did cartoons for R-rated stuff like RoboCop and friggin RAMBO, but those were honestly cashgrabs.
Nowadays they do it less (shows based off ANIMATED films don't count, we're talking live-action), but it happens once in a while.
Most recently I've heard that the Terminator anime is pretty solid, or at the very least instantly superior to all the post-T2 sequels because it's its own timeline/version of the apocalypse instead of messing with the Connors/making T2 pointless for the millionth time.
Ironically would go even harder than their live action counterparts.
As one tweet said it best:
"Why does every live-action remake have to look like an All-State commercial?"
Because All-State Commercial film directors break into Hollywood by making woke live-action versions of classic films… jk
Jjk even? @@BDLabs2
@@WreckingWood In this case, they're promoting an upcoming theme park attraction.
"Darker lighting, more polygons, less expression" describes nearly every live action remake.
Yep. And hard to see in action scenes, most of the time.
DreamWorks was created to become the anti-Disney, but with their sub-par shows based on their franchises and now a live action remake, they eventually became a lot like Disney.
And Disney tried to be them in the 2000’s. Whoever’s more successful the other will follow
At least they are making good movies. The Wild Robot was on par with the Last Wish, if not better
@@HenryWayat I agree. The Last Wish and The Wild Robot were the best films DreamWorks ever made.
@@chocodoeeyes Chicken Little was obviously Disney trying to be like Shrek without understanding why Shrek was a hit to begin with.
I won't tolerate Race To The Edge slander.
I hate how people treat animation with such contempt in the west that we feel the need to make it more "adult" by making it live action. Its so depressing as an artist and someone who enjoys the art of others. Especially animations
I dunno, i think most movie makers in the west hate paying animators specifically. It's why we really can't have the equivalent of japan's anime market, any time we DO have some form of animation it's made in 3D in the fastest way possible. If it's not that it's the polar opposite where they overwork the animators and they end up quitting like spiderverse.
This goes as far back as Walt Disney hating when animators unionized. Japan doesn't have that problem because literally everyone is pressured into overworking and hates their life.
Do people really treat it with contempt? I mean, I know Disney is soulless and basically dumped 2d when they found pixar and only really cares about profit, regardless if they happen to make an exceptional film or a pos, but I don't hear everyday people saying they hate animation. I actually think adult animation does very good in the west. South park and the Simpsons are some of the longest running tv shows of all time. I think if Disney and the studios that copy them would put out animation films on par with the ones of the Disney Renaissance era, people would watch, buy as much useless merch and still be insanely obsessed with the Disney brand and animation films. Disney just doesn't want to do that unless they believe it's the most lucrative choice. Maye if the remakes and reboots and live action slop films keep bombing, they'll start looking to make changes.
And the funny thing is, so far when it comes to these live action remakes, the original animated versions are always actually more mature, in the way the story and characters are presented.
Take Mulan for example: the original there are stakes, character growth, lessons to be learned...Then in the remake Mulan is just an invencible Super Sayin who solves every problem with her fists.
Say what you will about how Japan treats their animators (or workers in general), but at least they had the right idea about making anime for just about any genre for all ages.
As others have mentioned, I don't think it's some contempt conspiracy, it's just cheaper to make a cash grab remake of a beloved classic live action than it is to do animation.
If this live-action one was more based on the actual book, I wouldn't have minded. But no, they choose to pull a 2019 Lion King and just make a shot for shot remake that is devoid of life.
It's from the same person who directed the HTTYD trilogy.
@anthonymartensen3164 it doesn't change the fact that he still could have done something different
@@shark6228 yes, but it's not like he doesn't have a dog in the fight.
Or maybe hear me out just make another animated movie? is it seriously that hard? fans have been wanting another HTTYD movie since the last one in 2019
@@QueenAvacadodid they watch the spin-offs or anything
The thing that frustrates me is how stunningly gorgeous the 2010 movie is. It captures the environment so well, and is as good as you’ve come to expect from Roger Deakins. I’m gonna guess this remake won’t have the same level of care.
Yep when I bought my first HDTV as a young adult that was the first movie I watched!
You can tell from how Toothless looks. He still looks like a cartoon dragon, but with slightly more texture details. That just looks so out of place. Like the Woody Woodpecker live action movie 😂
of course it wont its just brand recognition
@@JesusChristMarie I heard from Jesterbell that the "How To Train Your Dragon" remake is to promote an upcoming theme park attraction.
@@JesusChristMarie plus DreamWorks Animation is falling into the exact same mistake as Disney.
The movie is not even that old to justify a remake, this is just oozing greed
Gotta say its not even good enough either
Much like Disney making a live action Moana remake when the original isn't ten years old yet.
The last how to train your Dragon movie came out in 2019 that was only five years ago like what 😂
It's cause they got a new theme park to promote Epic Universe which will have a How To Train Your Dragon
Like Megamind
The whole concept of these remakes are just "what if a worse looking version of this movie existed?"
"What if we could make money from a successful movie again, doing it again but sh!ttier?"
“What if we make the exact same movie again, but for young adults that refuse to explore non-mainstream slop and manchildren that think their masculinity is threatened by watching animation?”
Not just worse looking, worse in every way.
@@snausages43 That too
According to Jesterbell, the "How to Train Your Dragon" remake is to promote an upcoming theme park attraction.
Haven't watched the video yet, but I have seen the trailer, and as an avid fan of how to train your dragon, I feel as though I could make a video in the spirit of Adam's Lion King 2019 video about this movie once it comes out. After seeing everything in the trailer, I highly doubt that this is it going to break new grounds in storytelling or even visual spectacle, and I really hope it doesn't do well so that DreamWorks doesn't get the idea of remaking all of their movies too
I think it'll do well since people generally tend to favor DreamWorks because of the simple fact that they're not Disney.
This movie is my second plane, truly.
Do it you'd make a fortune too
@@James-so4mf I think DreamWorks Animation is going to completely repeat the exact same mistake as what Disney is doing to their live action remakes to animated films.
I fully admit, I'm gonna see it. But, my 10 year old grew up on the cartoons and there isn't words for how much I love the first one (the second one broke my heart and it was the first time he cried watching a movie, so I have mixed feelings on that one). He's pumped to see it, so I'm all in.
It's been theorized the film got made in order to promote the HTTYD attraction opening at Universal next year. What's openly known is that the film's director, who also co-directed the original film, wasn't sought by the studio, and upon learning they were doing a temake he stepped in. So basically he did it in order to prevent the studio from bastardazing the OG film, and not let anyone else but him to fuck it over.
Doesn't that lead to a Matrix 4 situation? "If you're going to f it up, it will be f up on my terms!"
Because it will be so much better if he bastardizes it himself
honestly a HTTYD live action COULD be really cool if they redesigned it from the ground up, really committed to the scottish/celtic setting and did their own thing but no they just literally remade the animated movie... It's so dumb. The series isn't even that old so like whyyyy?
They are Vikings, not Scottish.
@@Hannahgs Berk is literally based off the inner hebrides islands, so it's definitely inspired by Scandanavian Scottish Vikings.
@@kbucket that’s nice, but they were still very much Scandinavian and Viking more than they were Celtic. The Vikings settled there, they did not come from there.
Doing original work in a remake defeats the purpose of a remake
@@ursidae97 not at all lol a remake only has to be based on the original story.
As someone who adored the httyd trilogy, this shit makes no sense.
A) why are we remaking a movie series that came out just over a decade ago?
B) this casting looks so subpar (stoic isn't beefy enough, hiccup is too fuck boy, the acting looks aaaass, Etc)
Also, what can they add that the first movie didn't do? Especially considering how well made that movie is, you're not going to do anything that betters the movie. It's just Gunna be the same shit beat for beat
They literally didn't change the cast.
I saw somewhere that they had early screening of the movie and obviously it’s not finished just yet but apparently they said it’s basically a shot for shot remake with only a few new things.
@@spinningpeanut they changed some of it what are you talking about? Mason Thames as hiccup? Nico parker? Nick frost?
The only og is Gerard butler and with all due respect to him, his look does not match animated stoic
@@QueenAvacado why am I not surprised
According to Jesterbell, the "How To Train Your Dragon" remake is to promote an upcoming theme park attraction.
My ass will be seated Day 1 for Bad Guys 2, meanwhile live action HTTYD is one of the easiest skips ever.
I will go watch the latter, I'm not sure it'll be good, but I liked the trailer a lot, to me, it seems promising.
@ the movie has been out since 2010 you can already watch it
@@RenniUltraFox I want to see the live action version of the movie. I don't feel as compelled to watch something I already watched as opposed to a remake.
Hey if the idiot above me wants to waste his cash on something he can already watch,let him. He'll learn the hard way
Wild Renni sighting
It’s actually crazy to me that people are excited for this movie when it’s literally the exact same thing but with real people instead of the characters, being animated and voiced by voice actors. That’s literally the only difference. They somehow made toothless look really fucking weird like I don’t even understand what they were thinking when and I understand if they changed his design at all, people would be all pissed but seriously seriously there’s just some things that are better left animated and this is one of them same with the lion King
I find that a lot of people tend to favor DreamWorks over the simple fact that they're not Disney. So, this might actually do better than most Disney remakes because of that.
@@ThePrincessCH yep it will probably make a billion dollars unfortunately.
Hollywood is so creatively bankrupt
Hollywood isn't a monolith.
@@HOTD108_yes it is china not
It’s always been this way. I mean this Christmas we are gettin a remake of a story that’s been done multiple times over
Late stage capitalism is just that way in general.
Just when I thought maybe the sh!tty remake trend was drying off, there goes fkn Dreamworks copying Disney's poorly done homework.
From the looks of the trailer, this movie is probably just a complete shot-for-shot remake of a movie that was ALREADY 3D ANIMATED. This is literally just How To Train Your Dragon: RTX Edition. What experience could this POSSIBLY offer that the original didn’t offer already? Who cares if the animated dragons are slightly more defined? WHO IS THIS MOVIE EVEN FOR?
I'll answer: it's for greedy corporate fucks to fill their pockets ruining childhoods
@@max5845 exactly, this unnecessary remake is basically made for Generation Beta so they forget about the 2010 film.
LMAO the shock on Adam as they are kissing
Bird vore was insane
When bating furries they appear to be going straight for the throat with this one.
THEYRE MAKING A WHAT
I know the company is at fault for making these in the first place, AND doing them just to get tax write-offs, but at the same time, I think we also need a bit of accountability from audiences that sometimes make these things huge hits in the first place. Guys. *Stop going to see these things.* The more they bomb, the more the shareholders will think to let go of making this stuff to exploit our already screwed up tax system. Spend the weekend seeing the original animated trilogy again instead. Go see another impressive independent film in theaters as they're usually at your local AMC. Stream the best movies of last year, Wicked's probably gonna be available on home media by the time this comes out. Play a recent video game that rocked. Just stop paying to see this grey, muddy, live-action slop.
The reality is, no matter how many times people online try to discourage others from seeing it, these movies still make money from the general public including families off the brand name alone. That’s why boycotts online almost never work for big name movies.
@@APPictures9 See also the gaming circle. If your only exposure to Pokemon leading up to the release of Sword & Shield was online groups & the dumpster fire raging at the time that was Dexit discourse you would have expected those games to flop hard, not outsell every generation that wasn't the first two. Gaming boycotts famously never work.
I heard from Jesterbell that the "How To Train Your Dragon" remake is to promote an upcoming theme park attraction.
I'm a fan of the movies, but there is no point to this movie. It looks worse than a cartoon.
10:56 never seen him question his sexuality like that 😭😭
I mean he literally said right there, you can identify your sexuality as “gay” and still find a woman attractive.
I was not expecting Adum to find out he's bi on stream, lmao.
@@Luschan Very true. I'm gay and can still give someone my opinion on if I think a particular woman is attractive looking. I'm assuming and hoping the comments about "OMG I can't believe Adam came out as Bi" are just jokes.
_"Calm down, son, it's just a drawing, not the real thing."_
Adam had to mention the lighting and now i cant unsee it.
Never trust a horse
when a bird and a snake love each other very much the bird lets itself get swallowed a little bit^^
Basilisk?
One reason why the live-action HTTYD is releasing next year is because it coincides with the Universal Orlando Epic Universe park during the same summer, and it has an area themed around the HTTYD franchise.
This movie would be amazing if it stops to advertise the Universal theme park exactly like in the Mike Myers Cat in the Hat movie.
I got the trailer for The Bad Guys 2 both times I went to the movies recently. First before Wicked and the second time I saw it (before Moana 2) they cut out the part with the snake and bird making out. No idea why but I have my suspicions.
SCOTLAND FOREVER!
Everyone frothing over seeing the same thing again but with a hyper-realistic textures.
Also for all the kids who are adults now believing Dreamworks is giving them an 'upgraded adult version' because it's live-action now.
Surely, this will be the time for them to add more mature themes and writing, riiiiight? They can't just be copy and pasting the same thing but worse, riiight?
But look at hyper-realistic toothless guys! Based off the animated movie that already had realistic detail.
I heard from Jesterbell that the "How To Train Your Dragon" remake is to promote an upcoming theme park attraction.
You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become late-stage Disney.
The bad guys 2 is pulling an Alvin and the chipmunks 2 with adding a girls squad that do the exact same thing
Honestly, who asked for this? Better question: what dumb exec thought people wanted this? There's literally no point.
The same exec that saw Disney's scheme and thought "oooh money money money 🤑🤑🤑🤑"
There are way dumber projects to ask this question for lol. People at least watched and liked the first one.
Bro, Brazilians, including me, are eating that sh** up, we're hyped for it, so we definitely didn't ask then, but we are now.
They keep making these crap cause people keep going to theatres to watch them. Either cause they are nostalgia obsessed man-babies or cause they like "hate-watching". The money is all that matters.
I heard from Jesterbell that the "How To Train Your Dragon" remake is to promote an upcoming theme park attraction.
Live action Shrek is coming.
That’ll not happen. The CGI on the live action Shrek will look horrific & get put in a similar situation to The Lion King.
Toothless model is so weird. It has way too many details, and it looks very... Bumpy? It has those "deep-fried" memes energy and I'm not going to elaborate
adding more details with more sharpening filters definitely makes it look more realistic, just like when you take a photo and it doesnt look real enough so you have to turn the edge sharpening up so much that there are black cartoon outlines around everything!
that's how you know it looks realismerest!
the Bad Guys 2 reaction was way more entertaining and long than the HTTYD reaction.
I can't believe Adum came out as bi in this video.
I love Epic music. One of my favorite genres, but so many now a days are just blasting the brass section so much. I hate it. That isnt good Epic music. Epic remixes just take the OG song and make it overwhelming. It sucks. Everything sucks. 😭
Trailer music actually used to have a decent and original melody behind it. Look at the Raimi spiderman movie trailers. That's how you do it. Not over the top manipulative. Just showcasing cool action scenes with some great music. Now movies are so desperate for your attention that it has the opposite effect on me. I get annoyed by the constant barrage of sound. I feel like an old man. "Turn that sh!t down" 😂
Remember when everyone hated the remake of Psycho because it was a shot-for-shot copy? Why is this okay now? I don't understand why people are OK with this crap. I love the original. If you’re going to do a remake, then do something different!
The fact that Toothless is pretty much identical to the original movie in this just feels so wrong.
It's pointless.
@@bilbobaggins9451 I heard from Jesterbell that the "How To Train Your Dragon" remake is to promote an upcoming theme park attraction.
Actually they changed his design in all the worst places, he straight up looks bad in this.
They just have to keep it a relevant IP so people want to go to their new theme park
I think it is warranted, but it is extremely hilarious to me how Adum decided the acting was bad one line into the trailer.
Love a live action remake where it's identical to the animated film except live action actors in tacky outfits stand in front of a green screen.
We're in the slop era of films, aren't we? It's not even a distinct decade when it comes to movies and we're halfway through. At least I can look back to other decades and point out what the general "vibe" of that period was when it came to films.
In the 2000s, fantasy seemed to be the main focus when it came to high-profile movies. Harry potter, eragon, Narnia, Pan's Labyrinth, Pirates of the Caribbean, Golden Compass, Shrek, spiderwick chronicles, twilight, and obviously The Lord of the Rings trilogy. Varying degrees of quality, but at least it's distinct.
The 2010s we had a crapload of sci fi films that people still talk about. Interstellar, Prometheus, Arrival, the Martian, Ad Astra, Enders game, Blade Runner 2049, edge of tomorrow, elysium, the planet of the apes trilogy, inception, mad max fury road, gravity, annihilation. I'm probably forgetting quite a few, tbh. I guess you could say capesh!t, but I lump that in with Sci fi, tbh.
What do we have this decade in terms of high profile big budget movies? Ummm I guess Dune? That's the only franchise of substance I can think of. Ummm beyond that, it's just slop. Remakes and sequels to remakes and live action reboots. Video game movie slop as well. Just neverending garbage. I'm not saying there wasn't garbage in the 2000s and 2010s either. There definitely was, but in terms of high budget mainstream films, it just feels like there was some semblance of soul. Once again, now it's just blatant pig slop to the max. Just nothing distinct or fun about these godd@mn "movies".
I heard from Jesterbell that the "How To Train Your Dragon" remake is to promote an upcoming theme park attraction.
@ThePrincessCH Oh. So it's literally not even art? It's an actual product.
@@bilbobaggins9451 ignore The Princess CH, he spam comments about the live action HTTYD film being a promotion for the next attraction at Universal Studios.
PLEASE no more live action remakes of beloved animated movies I'm SO TIRED
Then in 2026, The Rock’s unnecessary live action Moana adaptation released. DreamWorks Animation & Disney has now gone broke.
So much money and resources wasted on something barely anyone will watch and remember....
It will probably make a lot of money but no body will remember it
Oh trust me. It'll make money. People are dumb beyond measure. But absolutely nobody will rewatch it again. It'll just end up in the landfill like Beauty and the beast 2017 and Lion king 2019. Just something for dumb millennials to point at and go "I member that." Then they leave the theater and go "that waz gud." And they wait for the next butchering live action film and consume that. I hate it here.
If people barely watch remakes, "The Lion King" remake wouldn't have been listed as the highest-grossing animated film of all time, until the release of "Inside Out 2."
Also, I heard from Jesterbell that the "How To Train Your Dragon" remake is to promote an upcoming theme park attraction.
12:33 I didn't think kids' movies could shock me anymore, holy shit.
TOOTHLESS LOOKS THE EXACT SAME what is even the point
The allure of the uncanny valley.
Couldnt wait to see his reaction to the end of the bad guys trailer. Thats how you know furries made this.
2:38 Same feel, the same touch, and the same waste for the last 15 years making it retell just like the original movie. Why bother this? It will be a “Lilo & Stitch” retold problem even if it is the same style as this one, nobody tells the difference. The same director who did two original films just wanted to be real, did not very well proper direction, and just played it safe.
So it's just going to be a bunch of HD upscaled dragons vs. some larpers?
Nah, LARPers are better dressed
You know what's funny? Back in the day they animated a short video about Toothless being an film actor (there was also the John Show guy, god damn I can't remember his name), and it looked MILLION times better then this. Ten years ago.
UPD. Got corrected, it was 6 years ago (but my point still stands)
Did you mean Jon Snow?
@@MsYuifan
Idk actor's name, I remember him exclusively as the "game of thrones you know nothing John Snow" guy
@@ettertarten Jon Snow is played by Kit Harrington.
that was in the promotional material for httyd the hidden world, so more like 5 years ago- not 10, but you're absolutely correct. that series of advertisements were far more entertaining and creative than "here's a shot-for-shot remake of a great film but we sucked out most of the charm and passion and will change arbitrary details without knowing the reason those original details were there in the first place"
In exchange for shitty acting, we had to give up colors, apparently. Looks drab amd dreary
I heard from Jesterbell that the "How To Train Your Dragon" remake is to promote an upcoming theme park attraction.
HTTYD is going to be a shot for shot remake. So most of the important creative decisions in the film - costume, script, cinematography, score - have already been made. Any creative expression is chained to the decisions of the original animation team. Nobody working on this film gets creative liscense to try something new, and that garuntees it will fail.
The soundtrack will be exactly the same except "more epic" (and therefore, worse). The cast will be a blown-out photocopy with the same lines and worse acting. The dragons *genuinely* look awful, I don't want to imagine these hitting the toy aisle. Yeah, I've watched Illumination desperately try to squeeze more money out of this IP for half a decade now and I'm ready for it to end 💔 The first two films were spectacular and I wish DreamWorks still had control.
I heard from Jesterbell that the "How To Train Your Dragon" remake is to promote an upcoming theme park attraction.
@ThePrincessCH So it's not even something they want to do, it's a $200m advertising campaign. Cool. Cool. 🙄
I never thought I'd be here...
Httyd and its sequel are still my favorite movies, but the third took me out of the franchise, and this remake just makes my distaste for the path the franchise has taken so much worse.
Same bro 😔
12:30 I had a 3 layer "WOW":
- The genuine normie audience "WOW"
- The "IS THIS A KID'S MOVIE" "WOW"
- The "OMG ADUM IS WOWING TOO" "WOW"
I also can’t believe this is a getting a live action since the movies just ended 5 yrs ago
If they just put the original back in theaters I'd watch it. No need for another trash live action
Adums Bad Guys 2 reaction is gold 😂💕
if they're making it live action they could've at least brought out real alive dragons, smh
edit: imagine the live action shot-for-shot remake, but every dragon is replaced with a dog. now THAT i would watch.
Is animation *inferior?* Then why do we have to re-make animations into live-action? Isn't each medium better at telling certain kinds of stories than the other?
I feel it's more befuddling DreamWorks didn't start their live action train with Shrek
I heard from Jesterbell that the "How To Train Your Dragon" remake is to promote an upcoming theme park attraction.
The third HTTYD will no longer be the worst one in the franchise
12:36 Yes Adam since I posted to you on the “The Bad Guys 2” trailer, how do you feel seeing this could happened?
"I can't kill a dragon... But I can how to train your dragon..."
I had no idea yms streams could be this unhinged
Why wouldn't you get Gerard Butler to play the dad? He's the original VA and has played MANY viking-coded warriormen before
Um, Gerard Butler is in the movie because it's the same guy who played two dad roles in a “Dragon” film if you looked closely in the trailer or behind the summary.
i dont even like the bad guys but seeing it after that trailer is like finding a glass of water in the middle of the sahara desert
Looks like the Dreamworks bigwigs aren't aware of Didney's decline especially on live-action adaptations i guess........ 😧😧😧😧😧😑😑😑😑😑😑😑
I heard from Jesterbell that the "How To Train Your Dragon" remake is to promote an upcoming theme park attraction.
I remember seeing the trailer and going: "Now I know how Adum feels."
Might as well call it How To Train Your Dragon: Rescaled. And sell it like a 4K remaster of a game.
next ones gonna be monsters inc live action i swear💀
If this is successful, we're definitely getting a live action Shrek.
Shrek in live action would look horrific & I doubt that the live action HTTYD will be successful.
When I saw this trailer it looked like the Disney Channel adaptation of HTTYD. Why is the animated dragon better at emoting than the humans?
The last time we got a shot-for-shot same trailer it turned out to be great, actually. /s
Can't wait for part 2 on that video btw.
DreamWorks Animation is now going into the “We’re back, we’re so back, it’s over, it’s so over” meme situation. DreamWorks Animation has become Disney live action 2.0 when they unnecessarily make live action films.
The only thing I retained from the HTTYD trailer when I saw it in theaters was that the constant drumming made the ad twice as loud as every other preview in the theater. And since the movie was an IMAX showing in a crappy amc the speakers’ audio distorted for most of it
Also pour one out to the Bad Guys fans who shipped the snake and the wolf, this had to have been their 2nd plane
How to Train Your Bad Dragon Guys 2
Vore!
Also, I noticed that the Hiccup actor wasn't acting well at all. They moved from point to point when they put their hand up, following their cues without adding meaning to the motion. It seemed lifeless.
Exactly! It's so wooden, like a little kid doing his first ever performance. No life in it. Just a robotic head turn.
In the original, Hiccup is visually nervous, he hesitates to put out his hand and he turns his head while he breathes out nervously. You can feel his emotions, his fear but also how gentle he is being.
The remake? Just sticks his arm out and turns his head. No body language used. You could get more emotion out of a plank.
He literally pauses every frame of the video and says "the acting sucks"
This literally feels like a bad SNL parody
this looks dope. now, when they inevitably fuck up the writing of the story (for example, the lion king), then i may have a problem, because for me, it being live-action isn't automatically an indication that it will be bad. but until then, im excited to see it
although, one of the writers of the original HTTYD is going to be writing the live action version, so... this has a small chance of being decent.
I respect Adam's opinion on how to Train your Dragon. My only problem with him is him saying toothless is like a dog. Yes, he is like a dog but that's not the whole point. They saw him as a terrifying creature at first and so did hiccup. But when hiccup met him he sees him for what he is. a kind creature whos just trying to defend itself. It's a perfect example of don't judge a book by its cover so it's kind of silly for someone to say it's just a dog when there's so much more to that than just the dog😊 that's in my opinion at least.
toothless was also a mix of a lot of animals behaviour-wise in the original, but was primarily based on leopards and cats. it was dean deblois who later decided to make toothless aggressively doglike (a decision i still dislike) in the sequels bc he likes dogs and felt like it would make toothless more relatable (toothless was already incredible on his own. he didn't need to fall so hard into the "every animal is now a domestic dog" trope)
the first HTTYD is one of my favourite movies of all time, but i respect that adam wasn't a fan. generally speaking, he and i have very different movie tastes and i'm really not much of a movie watcher in general. I dig why he feels the way he does.
@dragonlover7196 don't get me wrong I respect his opinion and yours too. I was just sharing my opinion. It one of my all time favorite films and a massive inspiration to me.😊
He's talking about the live action Toothless, and in the third movie they really do reduce Toothless to "slobbering stupid untrained horny dog"
As far as the How To Train Your Dragon remake, I’m just hype for more John Powell music. That franchise has my absolute favorite soundtracks, so I’m always down for more.
John Powell is going to have to do the heavy lifting with his music in this remake.
@ I just hope he puts more care into it than the composers did for Lion King 2019. I have faith Powell will do it, though!
As a kid I loved the original How to Train Your Dragon book, when the original movie came out it felt like a lot of the book's charm was lost in translation. This is an even more watered down version of that. Depressing
I like that crow from the Bad Guys 2 trailer
Its just weird how these live action remakes animate the non human characters to look exactly the same as their original version but with better textures.
cant sell toys if the new design has smaller more complicated features, so you keep it the same. this also means that they can keep using the same toy designs that theyve been using for the last 15 years.
(but theyll probably make new designs anyway, because they cant possibly stop wasting money on pointless garbage. it's the only thing coroprations are capable of)
7:38...no way. They literally did these fan arts of these furry good girls. Like that's a total enough. Let me check.
…my god…this is too much and my eyes 👀 are killing me. They also made Kitty Kat (Danielle Brooks's voice there as well) a muscle-tough girl as a bisexual figure, making Borat’s daughter voice a plus-size warthog and the raven who voiced “But I a Cheerleader and Poker Face” as Doom. …I take it back, that Doom chick was something. 🫶...oooh the snake make-out grief is top-notch.
"1080p so you can't really tell" is so insane. His monitor must be his entire wall or something.
When I saw the trailer for the live action HTTYD in a theater it looks so much like they just took the original movies CG animation and composited in human actors. It looks so uncanny and bad.
Everything that's popular looks awful nowadays. 😂
Just like the game awards game trailers. Neverending slop. Not for "woke" reasons, either. I just hate realistic games. Looks so lame to me.
The fact that the director of the originals is helming the HTTYD remake gives me some hope
Don't overestimate the amount of creative freedom a director might have. I heard that the director for "Looney Tunes: Back in Action" had a different concept for the film, but the studio interfered.
i have never even heard of this bad gay movie let alone a sequel but at the very least animation has a style to it
unlike every disney movie since tangeled which all look absolutely identical
There is some sort of poetic irony in one of the two main characters still being CG and looking damn near EXACTLY THE SAME
His reaction to the bad guys 2 was everything!!!!😂😂 Absolute gold!!
As for how to train your dragon... I hope it bombs at the box office, such levels of greed should be punished.
You know i was really hoping this would be actually good as a classic "screw disney" DreamWorks move but oh well. God knows they need the quick cash more than Disney i guess
I heard from Jesterbell that the "How To Train Your Dragon" remake is to promote an upcoming theme park attraction.
Toothless was modelled on a cat, not a dog.
He was actually modelled after lots of animals, mainly panthers but also cats, axolotls, salamanders, dogs, bats, horses and sharks. Adum saying "it's just a dog" is incredibly infuriating.
Glad to know Dreamworks is gonna break new ground in 2025 by adapting a film into a film
God I must be so out of touch. I never realized that The Bad Guys was a movie that came out, let alone the sequel. As for HTTYG, I watched the first movie when it came out. I thought it was fun but it didn’t leave a major impact on me and I haven’t paid attention to anything that came out afterwards related to the franchise
Shocking vore reveal was UN-EX-PECTED