@@minerharry But... is the ball a 4D hyperball though? I'm a little curious at how the barrier moves further away in the forward direction without being a barrier to a 4D ball. Even though we can't see it in the current 3D slice the barrier would still be present off in 4D? So how would a 4D ball get past the 4D barrier that we can't see but is still there?
@@PunmasterSTP not only it will be but i think that if enough players hop on then not only new players whould have a new mind melting experience, but older players will have the joy of making maps for a long time kinda like geometry dash
@@moonie7993I'm sure some caveman swung a stick at a rock and got excited it went the right direction they wanted it to at some point. Golf isn't too complex of a sport
This trailer made me realize the view where the ball suddenly looks like it's in zero-gravity in a 3d course is because that's the equivalent of a top-down perspective in 2d. We're not seeing the effects of gravity on the ball because the direction of gravity is now the direction we're looking at it from.
@@scoutgaming737 The gravity is pulling in only one dimension (like in most golf games), but in this game that leaves THREE dimensions unaffected by gravity. (Of course, diagonal walls complicate that. Slopes can make a ball move west even though gravity is only pulling down.)
@@SorakaOTP462 You really shouldn't be pirating games from indie developers. From mega corporations it's fine, but this hurts alot, specially since you're planning to do it knowing the work behind it
I've lost count of how many times I watched this trailer. This is completely insane! I can't possibly understand the amount of effort it took to create a 4D engine with a completely functional (and somewhat intuitive, as far as 4D can be) level editor! I NEED it!
So I had an interesting idea for this. Let's say this was in VR. You essentially have two images, one for each eye. You could have one extremity of the dimension in one eye, and the other extremity in the other eye. Then you would have where you are in between those extremities in both eyes. Provided you blur the parts that are not in both eyes, you could have an incredibly solid way of easily representing both extremities at once for an audience who can use stereoscopy.
I've tried that. Your eyes are unable to focus using this method unfortunately. Our brains developed stereoscopy for things that are horizontally offset. The images you get using a w-offset are just too disjoint and don't give you any real intuition. But maybe if you trained on it for a long time it could work, much like wearing upside-down glasses if you know what I'm talking about...
it is absolutely insane, i literally discovered your game hyperbolica through a random gameplay in my youtube home page WEEK ago, them forgot about it and then got your video on spherical geometry, then you trailer to hyperbolica and then saw your ~2 year old video of 4D dimensional game idea, had fun thinking "oh this is extremely hard to make, imagine if the dude actuallt finished it already" and then i go to your channel and BOOM i see with my own eyes THIS TRAILER OF 4D GOLFFFF omg this is isnane, so beautiful and i am so happy to live to see it, it is a spectacular job [: 🔥🔥🔥
This final version looks not only amazing but also more mind-bending than any other 4-dimensional simulation i've seen in the past But going so far as a 4-dimensional _level editor_ is beyond amazing
I’m assuming you’re new here and haven’t been following along with his devlogs. The level editor was actually originally something he made so that he could make the official levels more easily. He made a tool to make the game with and will be giving it to us :)
CodeParade This game looks incredible!!!! I'm so gonna get this game when it comes out! I think that golf was a great choice to introduce 4d mechanics to players and I cant wait to use the 4d level editor! Your work is astonishing, so keep up the amazing work! ❤
Definitely gonna buy this. I believe this game is historical, mathematically speaking. I so hope it sells well. And I hope I can wrap my brain around the 4th dimension. We’ll see! XD
Wow it looks amazing! Have you ever thought about a VR mod for it? Walkabout Minigolf is already one of my favourite VR games. I would love to lose myself in a 4D space!
I don't know how difficult it will be, but is there gonna be multiplayer support? Imagine the chaos and confusion we and the boys will be experiencing.
After over a decade I've realized I will probably never see Meigakure. But you're releasing this game after only about a single year of work! That's insane.
I'm glad that there are some people who understand that the 4th dimension is not time because time is not a direction an object can move or be measured in, it's the phenomenon of aging. It's cool we can explore what a 4th dimension can be through videogames
I'm really hoping this is a scientifically accurate representation of 4D, because I'd honestly love to try and understand it instead of constantly being told "it's literally impossible to perceive and probably not even real, so here's a vague demonstration I read online that doesn't give you any answers whatsoever"
@@Wulfstrex Saw a few vids already in anticipation of this game, but I'll watch a few more because I'd bet this is the closest I'll ever get to understanding such a concept
This looks even more amazing now with the more trippy levels and the torus and the level editor and aaaaaaa I can't wait for this to give me a headache!
I've seen a lot of stuff that's made to look "alien" or "mind-bending" but this is one of the only things I've ever seen that legitimately don't look like they are from this world.
I left the 0.5 speed on and i didn’t know. I watched this vid in 0.5 speed and like “damn, this game is trippy”. I thought it was intentional and didnt notice the 0.5 speed til i go to the next vid. Had to come back and say this.
I find it kinda funny that on a trailer for a game that brought you mind-bending geometry, changing texture on a ball is a selling point.
Right?! I found it almost disruptive. Great work anyways of course!
Well, the ball has to be 4 dimensional too…
I'm most surprised that I immediately have a favorite that I'm hyped for.
Have you seen his video on texturing 4d objects?
@@minerharry But... is the ball a 4D hyperball though? I'm a little curious at how the barrier moves further away in the forward direction without being a barrier to a 4D ball. Even though we can't see it in the current 3D slice the barrier would still be present off in 4D? So how would a 4D ball get past the 4D barrier that we can't see but is still there?
The fact we’re able to design our own 4D levels seal the deal.
@wotermelon_ WE CAN CUSTOMIZE OUR BALLS😱🤯
Even with a level editor? What a Chad. Big Kudos and congratulations to having an upcoming release!
I'd still be extremely stoked without a level editor, but it's just the icing on the cake!
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@@PunmasterSTP not only it will be but i think that if enough players hop on then not only new players whould have a new mind melting experience, but older players will have the joy of making maps for a long time
kinda like geometry dash
@@peculiarjack617 I definitely hope a healthy community springs up!
We all know he's not just a chad. He's a real life Gigachad.
cant wait until they make 5D Golf with Multiverse Time Travel
Is it a reference to chess 5D ?
@@philflag4916 yip it is!!
@@philflag4916 I think it's obvious the answer is yes.
Don't tempt him!
Hyperbolic 4D golf with realistic black holes
Ah great, Man-made golf beyond my comprehension
But the putters still persist
As opposed to natural golf
which is also beyond my comprehension@@moonie7993
@@moonie7993 which is still beyond comprehension
@@moonie7993I'm sure some caveman swung a stick at a rock and got excited it went the right direction they wanted it to at some point. Golf isn't too complex of a sport
This trailer made me realize the view where the ball suddenly looks like it's in zero-gravity in a 3d course is because that's the equivalent of a top-down perspective in 2d. We're not seeing the effects of gravity on the ball because the direction of gravity is now the direction we're looking at it from.
Exactly!
Wait the gravity is 4d?!
@@scoutgaming737 The gravity is pulling in only one dimension (like in most golf games), but in this game that leaves THREE dimensions unaffected by gravity. (Of course, diagonal walls complicate that. Slopes can make a ball move west even though gravity is only pulling down.)
my dumbass brain trying to comprehend this comment
it's good to see more people understanding these cool worlds!! ʌ ʌ
Honestly I didn't expect it to come out so soon, you did an absolutely amazing job
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Edit:one month later 1000+ likes and only two comments
I expected a lot more
So soon? we've been waitin ages! But well worth it of course.
If there’s an in game community level browser and multiplayer this will be the absolute best golf game
On the Steam page it says PvP split screen. So no Online Multiplayer (at the moment)
@@xyoxusThe steam page also says Remote Play Together though
I really hope this gets the recognition it deserves. This looks *_so_* awesome
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Yes, we people who use torrents will probably have to wait 1 week at least after it's out 😛
@@SorakaOTP462 You really shouldn't be pirating games from indie developers. From mega corporations it's fine, but this hurts alot, specially since you're planning to do it knowing the work behind it
@@Aviv1201 shalom, aviv, shalom.
@@SorakaOTP462or you could just actually buy the game and support the author. If you catch it during sales it shouldn't be that bad, right?
Ohoho, the speedruns are going to be _crazy_
Oh dang I didn't even think about that!
the Speedrun Explained videos will be so hard to make...
oh shit u rite.
speedrunning this game will make more people able to understand 4d geometry (or just make them memorize button presses)
@@vii-ka Yeah I guess this could be kind of a neat training tool...
Oh I wished this had multiplayer. This just seems like it would be a fun mind-bending experience to share with a friend.
It should be possible with Steam Remote Play, but I'll try to get a proper multiplayer server eventually.
@@CodeParadeThat would be awesome!
@@CodeParade will local multiplayer work? I think this would be really fun sitting on a couch with my friend screaming in confusion
@@coolaz610Yeah, hotseat/couch play has been confirmed in other video comments. Hence Steam Remote Play
Local multiplayer should work as far as I know @@coolaz610
In the 1920s Lovecraft wrote about the nightmarish hellscapes of noneuclidean geometries.
2020s: So, yeah, we now have 4D Golf.
Lovecraft also thought race-mixing was nightmarish so maybe he just had a skill issue
@@ShuckleShellAnemiamight be a 👴 moment
@@moosesues8887Yes, you sure look like an elder.
@@Kokorocodon LOVECRAFT IS THE OLDHEAD 😭 i wasn’t insulting bro lovecraft literally is the textbook definition of a oldhead
@@moosesues8887 Sorry 😭
Man. I waited YEARS for Miegakure to come out. And you just DID it in what feels like a year at most. I'm speechless.
The fact that the level editor is included is insanely impressive
4D Miner already triggers every mental affliction in my brain, and you expect me to be able to *golf?*
Looks awesome.
Wishlisted.
I've lost count of how many times I watched this trailer. This is completely insane! I can't possibly understand the amount of effort it took to create a 4D engine with a completely functional (and somewhat intuitive, as far as 4D can be) level editor! I NEED it!
I've watched it on loop for 4 hours already, which is 218 times
@@skeleton8817That's dedication right there.
Yeah same!
So I had an interesting idea for this.
Let's say this was in VR.
You essentially have two images, one for each eye.
You could have one extremity of the dimension in one eye, and the other extremity in the other eye.
Then you would have where you are in between those extremities in both eyes.
Provided you blur the parts that are not in both eyes, you could have an incredibly solid way of easily representing both extremities at once for an audience who can use stereoscopy.
I've tried that. Your eyes are unable to focus using this method unfortunately. Our brains developed stereoscopy for things that are horizontally offset. The images you get using a w-offset are just too disjoint and don't give you any real intuition. But maybe if you trained on it for a long time it could work, much like wearing upside-down glasses if you know what I'm talking about...
I can honestly say I've never wanted to play golf more in my life until now.
Same.
Same.
it is absolutely insane, i literally discovered your game hyperbolica through a random gameplay in my youtube home page WEEK ago, them forgot about it and then got your video on spherical geometry, then you trailer to hyperbolica and then saw your ~2 year old video of 4D dimensional game idea, had fun thinking "oh this is extremely hard to make, imagine if the dude actuallt finished it already" and then i go to your channel and BOOM i see with my own eyes THIS TRAILER OF 4D GOLFFFF omg this is isnane, so beautiful and i am so happy to live to see it, it is a spectacular job [: 🔥🔥🔥
This looks way too confusing but equally amazing, love to see it in it's final stages!
I anticipate it's gonna take a long time for me to wrap my mind around it, but I bet I'll love the process!
Looks and Sounds phenomenal! Can't wait to get my hands on this 🎉
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Now I want to see a video going over how you made the new ground textures and gravity fliping
Videogames have come so far. Back in the 80s do you think they could even imagine being able to use 4d geometry like this?
I mean we still barely even know what 4D is today! -Or at least I do, but I'm excited to learn!-
In the 80s they could barely imagine being able to simulate 3D geometry.
It's got 2000's mail in computer game vibes that's I'm absolutely here for
Coming out before Miegakure... quite an achievement. I hope one day we can see it too.
Can't wait to wrinkle my brain in all 4 dimensions with this one
I feel like this is the most comprehensible 4D has ever been for me. Looks like a cool game :D
this is comprehensible to you? it sure isnt for me
Nice to still see you commenting after all this time!
I still think 4D toybox makes it easier to wrap you mind around 4D. But now this looks like a proper sneak peek into an actual 4D environment.
@@tractorthatapprovesvideos It's not comprehensible at all, but it's not the least comprehensible thing I've seen.
whoa, did not expect a built-in level editor. that's so sick!
hi artemis :3
@@DianeSteelehi diane :3
omg hi artemis
@@keyberries-omg hi key
Can't wait!
Ooh a verified commenter
Guess I'll wait here for free exposure then...
@@ArtemisAYO Guess I'll do the same
me too
Guys I don’t think it’s comin
@@josephmartin9737You mean the free exposure or the game?
So satisfying that you announced you were making a game, quietly executed on it, and shipped it. Every developer’s dream. Well done, congratulations!
hyperbolica: bends space.
4d golf: travels to a different dimension.
What is next? Time travel?
oooo incorporating time as if it were its own spatial dimension would be so cool@@matj12
@matj12 I actually really enjoy a good time travel puzzle so that would be pretty cool.
@@azealot-aka-azz Right. Time travel in games has a great potential.
Maybe the speed of light?@@matj12
me and the boys on our way to the 4th dimension to play golf
Holy yeah this looks absolutely mind bending. And yet they still managed a level editor.
Its shocking how many golf games there are and even more shocking that their all so creative and well made. This looks great!
Yall better have wishlisted this 🥴
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Surprisingly I already had it on mine before this trailer lmao... I'm so ready.
I seriously can’t wait to get my hands on this.
OMG YOU FINALLY DID IT!! Huge congrats my man!! I've been following your development process for multiple year now. I'm so pumped
Godddddammmmmm looks beautiful, and one of the best trailers for a game I’ve seen in awhile. Loved the music!
This final version looks not only amazing but also more mind-bending than any other 4-dimensional simulation i've seen in the past
But going so far as a 4-dimensional _level editor_ is beyond amazing
I’m assuming you’re new here and haven’t been following along with his devlogs. The level editor was actually originally something he made so that he could make the official levels more easily. He made a tool to make the game with and will be giving it to us :)
@@azealot-aka-azz I _have_ actually watched all the devlogs
Looks fun!
Hey look everyone, it's that other guy in the 4D game dev niche!
Woah this looks trippy as hell. Excited to play it when it comes out!
CodeParade This game looks incredible!!!! I'm so gonna get this game when it comes out! I think that golf was a great choice to introduce 4d mechanics to players and I cant wait to use the 4d level editor! Your work is astonishing, so keep up the amazing work! ❤
EVEN A LEVEL EDITOR? This game has to be great for kids and adults alike for comprehending the 4th Dimension!
NICE!!! It's looking really polished! I've had it on my wishlist a while now and ti can't wait to pick it up ✌️
I am SO excited for the level editor. I can't wait to melt my friends' brains!!
holy shit man. you and philmakesnoise are a force to be reckoned with. this is the CMY/RGB guy! thanks as always for everything you do!
*4D Golf is insane. We truly live in the greatest century ever.*
Love the music it has this 2000 feel to it for some reason
I was expecting this to take more than 2 years to make. Kudos to you. I'll definitely be on the lookout for this!
This looks amazing! Can’t wait to see all the mind-bending trickery you’ve come up with
All that hard work is definitely showing! This looks so good!!
Yay! You did such an amazing job! I love the style of it! I'm very excited for the release!
very excite!!!
level editor is such is wild flex, well played lol
Definitely gonna buy this. I believe this game is historical, mathematically speaking. I so hope it sells well.
And I hope I can wrap my brain around the 4th dimension. We’ll see! XD
Here's the real question: will it be playable in VR?
Can't wait for this game to come out!
I have never gotten the chance to play 4d miner yet, but I am just happy knowing the world will have one more 4D game. Cannot wait for the crossover!
I've been following this since the beginning. Super happy for you man!! cant wait to play it.
this is soooo sick!!!! AND it releases on the day after my birthday!! im so excited to play this and mess around in it
Wow it looks amazing! Have you ever thought about a VR mod for it? Walkabout Minigolf is already one of my favourite VR games. I would love to lose myself in a 4D space!
I think the dev already has post-release plans for that
@@Wulfstrex Very happy to hear it
The peak utilisation of "it's not a bug, it's a feature" manifested in this Awesome Project. Congratulations.
this music feels exactly what what this game looks like
Looks even cooler than I expected. But I'm scared for those who will play this.
CONGRATS!!! Incredible work
Oh, those are some FUNKY environments. Can't wait, March is waaaay too far away XD
I especially love the environment at 0:45
I was like "oh this looks good, fair play to him" until I saw it had a level editor and became speechless 😐 definitely buying this!
Wooo!! I’ve had this waitlisted for over a year now lol
This is the most unique indie golf game I have ever witnessed my my whole entire life keep it up🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯👍🏻
Think playing this will give me a stroke, I love it!
This looks absolutely brilliant and I can't wait to play it
0:33 really took me by surprise, it looks awesome!
I don't know how difficult it will be, but is there gonna be multiplayer support? Imagine the chaos and confusion we and the boys will be experiencing.
I've never actually played Portal multiplayer, but I imagine it could feel similar to something like that...
Based on the devlogs, not much about multiplayer like at all
@@kreuner11mod time
@@kreuner11There will be local multiplayer at least when it gets released.
for real? This will make a great (albeit dizzy-ing) family time!@@Wulfstrex
This is wonderful. A new dimension of a classic game!
all it needs is a golf with friends style multiplayer mode
great stuff!
Looks amazing! can imagine an arcady multiplayer driving game in this would be super fun as well
SS: DAMN, That seems really fun and funky! Incredible work!!!
I've had hype for a year now. This is not gonna disapoint.
After over a decade I've realized I will probably never see Meigakure. But you're releasing this game after only about a single year of work! That's insane.
2 years, but yes
Playing it may be very confusing
But imagine making levels like this
These 4D game devs are just built different. Looks awesome.
Loved Hyperbolica, and I can’t wait to melt my brain with 4D golf!
I'm glad that there are some people who understand that the 4th dimension is not time because time is not a direction an object can move or be measured in, it's the phenomenon of aging.
It's cool we can explore what a 4th dimension can be through videogames
I'm really hoping this is a scientifically accurate representation of 4D, because I'd honestly love to try and understand it instead of constantly being told "it's literally impossible to perceive and probably not even real, so here's a vague demonstration I read online that doesn't give you any answers whatsoever"
I recommend watching the dev's devlog series, because it explains quite a lot.
@@Wulfstrex Saw a few vids already in anticipation of this game, but I'll watch a few more because I'd bet this is the closest I'll ever get to understanding such a concept
@@Nova_theCat_But it is quite easy to understand, just extremely hard to visualize.
@@eryxyre Well yea, I want to be able to visualize it, but I don't think it's as impossible as everyone says since it seems like such a simple concept
Now we can play golf in a new perspective. 4D!
Speed runs for this game are gonna go crazy
This is executed very cleanly and now i might actually find a way to enjoy golf
I hope you sent a code to all the science education channels. It’s right up their wheelhouse.
This looks even more amazing now with the more trippy levels and the torus and the level editor and aaaaaaa I can't wait for this to give me a headache!
🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 I had a similar feeling when I first saw a trailer for portal - feeling like my mind was about to get bent in a new way.
I've seen a lot of stuff that's made to look "alien" or "mind-bending" but this is one of the only things I've ever seen that legitimately don't look like they are from this world.
oh hey March 22 is my birthday, sweet!!
Man I remember coming into this when it was just tech development. Glad to finally see a trailer
It's so trippy.
I don't know how it works, or what's going on, but I want it
I got confsed by the Trailer alone, I cant how confsed I will be playing it.
5d chess with multiversal time travel: finally, a worthy opponent
Can’t wait! Loved marble marcher and hyperbolica. I’m excited to try and figure out 4d space :)
I left the 0.5 speed on and i didn’t know. I watched this vid in 0.5 speed and like “damn, this game is trippy”. I thought it was intentional and didnt notice the 0.5 speed til i go to the next vid.
Had to come back and say this.
So glad this project came to fruition for you.
This is the type of game I'll play while stoned
I have zero clue what I just watched, but I love it so much. Great concept & execution.