Non-Euclidean Geometry Explained - Hyperbolica Devlog #1

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  • Опубліковано 14 тра 2024
  • I present the easiest way to understand curved spaces, in both hyperbolic and spherical geometries. This is the first in a series about the development of Hyperbolica.
    Chapters:
    0:00 Intro
    0:24 Spherical Geometry
    2:33 Hyperbolic Introduction
    3:53 Projections
    5:37 Non-Euclidean Weirdness
    8:31 Non-Euclidean Formulas
    10:20 Outro
    Hyperbolica
    Trailer: • Hyperbolica: A Non-Euc...
    Steam Page: store.steampowered.com/app/12...
    Merch: crowdmade.com/collections/cod...
    Henry Segerman
    / @henryseg
    • Illuminating hyperboli...
    HyperRogue
    roguetemple.com/z/hyper/
    If you like the things I do and want to support the channel:
    / codeparade
    ko-fi.com/codeparade
    Music:
    "Glass Waves" By Phil K
    www.phil-makes.com/noise

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  • @outdateduser7036
    @outdateduser7036 3 роки тому +9041

    When you stop paying attention in calculus for 3 seconds

    • @illyias
      @illyias 3 роки тому +195

      Too real

    • @RadeDobison
      @RadeDobison 3 роки тому +118

      holy shit how did you do that lol

    • @axion986
      @axion986 3 роки тому +43

      Sorry can someone explain this to me? I didn't take calculus and now I feel left out.

    • @Legendnewer
      @Legendnewer 3 роки тому +224

      @@axion986 Basically you lost track of everything, you don't understand anything of what the professor is saying, it can be any topic but calculus is a prime example

    • @Nekiplex
      @Nekiplex 3 роки тому +21

      We dont even need to know calculous in my country so i have no clue what it is. it is taught but you have to finish school. Its litterally not an option for any GCSE math tests. So you could just never know about it for your entire life

  • @Starnoxiar
    @Starnoxiar 3 роки тому +5801

    "But first we have to talk about parallel universes" nice.

    • @icicleditor
      @icicleditor 3 роки тому +262

      I’ll be honest, that killed me.

    • @wacesferpit
      @wacesferpit 3 роки тому +339

      specially love the Mario 64 extra reference with the music

    • @ber2996
      @ber2996 3 роки тому +125

      To answer that, we need to talk about parallel universes

    • @OneShot_cest_mieux
      @OneShot_cest_mieux 3 роки тому +50

      I think it's a reference to the youtube channel TerminalMontage

    • @yasd8493
      @yasd8493 3 роки тому +208

      @@OneShot_cest_mieux *Pannenkoek2012
      The meme started there

  • @lordvincenteperez4196
    @lordvincenteperez4196 2 роки тому +636

    can you just imagine beings of 4D using our 3D to explain 5D

    • @tyresefarrell
      @tyresefarrell Рік тому +62

      Quite literally no🤣

    • @shouvik8267
      @shouvik8267 Рік тому +65

      We perceive 3d with 2d images, so 4d beings would be able to percieve 4d with 3d images. It's like looking at all sides of a cube at the same time, but sadly I can't even begin to imagine it for I am confined within limits of 1d brain.

    • @NotRealChatGPT
      @NotRealChatGPT Рік тому +14

      @@shouvik8267 i have a 0d brain

    • @reizinhodojogo3956
      @reizinhodojogo3956 Рік тому +6

      @@shouvik8267 transparent cube: bro where i am i don't exist?

    • @NotRealChatGPT
      @NotRealChatGPT Рік тому

      @@reizinhodojogo3956 no because i'm going on a walk and i and you are just being mad and not just being scared 😟 not being a pain to you help you with this and your life in your hand ✋ and a dream 🛌 and a new life you are a beautiful 🤩 woman 👩 you can do nothing but like 👍 you don't need a job that i you have no way more to get it into the center island 🏝️

  • @entitydotexe6138
    @entitydotexe6138 2 роки тому +348

    CodeParade: "Stay Hyperbolic"
    Me: *proceeds to occupy the entire volume of the universe*

    • @lullabypoppera3914
      @lullabypoppera3914 2 роки тому +17

      There's not enough room for the two of us!

    • @placeholdername3907
      @placeholdername3907 Рік тому +4

      @@lullabypoppera3914 then we're just gonna have to share
      *cue just the two of us

    • @lavasqrl702
      @lavasqrl702 Рік тому +6

      @@lullabypoppera3914 Correction: Three! That's right, I sort of understood it! *proceeds to occupy the entire volume of the multiverse*

    • @jackgreenearth452
      @jackgreenearth452 Рік тому +1

      @@lullabypoppera3914 Just kidding! There's plenty of room here in hyperbolic space! (paraphrased from Hyperbolica because I can't be bothered to open up the game and talk to that guy in the badlands just for a youtube comment)

  • @TheVoidIsBees
    @TheVoidIsBees 3 роки тому +1930

    I feel like I just gained 100 braincells but lost 300 points psychic damage.

    • @Astlaus
      @Astlaus 3 роки тому +191

      That's what math does to you. You gain insight, but you lose sanity.

    • @nintendofan222222222
      @nintendofan222222222 3 роки тому +70

      I always knew math was black magic

    • @joda7697
      @joda7697 3 роки тому +45

      @@Astlaus Thats a good description. I first had that when learning about cardinal numbers. Like, why the fuck are there just as many fractions as Integers, allthough the integers are a subset?! But then i learned why and booom, insight + psychic damage.

    • @CrescentUmbreon
      @CrescentUmbreon 3 роки тому +15

      So it's Bloodborne.
      Oh god

    • @sameman6884
      @sameman6884 3 роки тому +25

      +1 intelligence
      -10 HP

  • @Roter_Wolf
    @Roter_Wolf 3 роки тому +1061

    "Honey, can you knit me some non-euclidean planes?"

    • @Jellyjam14blas
      @Jellyjam14blas 3 роки тому +14

      Lmao 😂

    • @xoddampro405
      @xoddampro405 3 роки тому +8

      no :)

    • @warny1978
      @warny1978 3 роки тому +9

      "Look at me eviscerating you, and you'll see some hyperbolic intestines"
      "Are you sure"
      "I was joking, here it is"

    • @omnificatorg4426
      @omnificatorg4426 3 роки тому +10

      Search for Crocheting adventures in hyperbolic world

    • @columbus8myhw
      @columbus8myhw 3 роки тому +4

      Daina Taimina did a nice Ted talk on hyperbolic crochet: ua-cam.com/video/w1TBZhd-sN0/v-deo.html

  • @verylostdoommarauder
    @verylostdoommarauder 2 роки тому +288

    Now I understand the lovecraftian horror of non-euclidean geometry better now. If it's this confusing to us, imagine what geometry would be like for an eldritch horror.

    • @lullabypoppera3914
      @lullabypoppera3914 2 роки тому +7

      It's simple really

    • @efegokselkisioglu8218
      @efegokselkisioglu8218 Рік тому +7

      @@lullabypoppera3914 how old are you?

    • @robyngwendolynshiloh5277
      @robyngwendolynshiloh5277 Рік тому +4

      Now it makes me wonder how the final season of the Magnus Archives looked

    • @Two-BallTyrone
      @Two-BallTyrone Рік тому +7

      @@efegokselkisioglu8218 counter-argument, how old are you if you can’t get a joke?

    • @wrongturnVfor
      @wrongturnVfor Рік тому

      I think euclidean geometry is more horrific than hyperbolic. It confines your mind too much

  • @rosearachnid879
    @rosearachnid879 2 роки тому +58

    “Hyperbolic crochet”
    Come on in, sir. That’s the right password.

  • @etourdie
    @etourdie 3 роки тому +2830

    Greenland looks like it's about the size of Africa, but in reality it's about the size of Greenland
    -Map Men

    • @BrightyLighty_
      @BrightyLighty_ 3 роки тому +60

      ua-cam.com/video/jtBV3GgQLg8/v-deo.html for the uninitiated

    • @coyraig8332
      @coyraig8332 3 роки тому +44

      Map Men MAP Men MAP MAP men men

    • @d.l.7416
      @d.l.7416 3 роки тому +45

      It’s actually MAP men MAP men MAP MAP MAP men men men

    • @gregli9821
      @gregli9821 3 роки тому +31

      @@d.l.7416 MAP men MAP men MAP MAP MAP men men
      men

    • @Tomajdafrytrix
      @Tomajdafrytrix 3 роки тому +3

      map men map men map map map men men

  • @MilesMetal
    @MilesMetal 3 роки тому +2026

    "So I hope that's given all of you a little better understanding of curved spaces..."
    ...he says as the last remnants of my brain leak out of my ear.

    • @hyperbeast4340
      @hyperbeast4340 2 роки тому +70

      Wait, if a black hole is spherical geometry, are white holes hyperbolic?

    • @proloycodes
      @proloycodes 2 роки тому +22

      @@hyperbeast4340 maybe

    • @Armoire68
      @Armoire68 2 роки тому +11

      The perfect crossover doesn't exi...

    • @karynjohnson
      @karynjohnson 2 роки тому +6

      But I understood more and I am twelve years old. I am too nerdy for my own good

    • @MilesMetal
      @MilesMetal 2 роки тому +42

      @@karynjohnson You will read your comment in 10 years and cringe.

  • @karynjohnson
    @karynjohnson 2 роки тому +273

    Hey CodeParade! That knitting of the hyperbolic plane was really amazing. The first one with the squares is very unique and I haven’t been able to find it anywhere on the internet. So I’ve been making my own with a large piece of fabric cutting it into squares and drawing the black outline then stitching them together. I’m 12. Your video has really inspired me to look into hyperbolic geometry more. Thanks CodeParade. Hope this comment doesn’t get buried.

    • @CodeParade
      @CodeParade  2 роки тому +70

      That's awesome! Yeah, I couldn't find anything like it online either. The closest thing I found is this skirt, it uses pentagons instead of squares, but it's the same idea: blog.andreahawksley.com/hyperbolic-airplane-skirt/

    • @Queer_Nerd_For_Human_Justice
      @Queer_Nerd_For_Human_Justice Рік тому +11

      @@CodeParade Oh hey, she's friends with vi hart! Dang, small world. more people should do stuff like this ^^

    • @The_Moth1
      @The_Moth1 Рік тому +3

      @@Queer_Nerd_For_Human_Justiceis she the flexagon person?

    • @disco-ifinite-easy
      @disco-ifinite-easy 9 місяців тому

      yes
      @@The_Moth1

    • @wendysanchez3024
      @wendysanchez3024 4 місяці тому +1

      I've been searching to find something like the one with the squares. I'm teaching a course on non-Euclidean geometries, and I'd love to have one of those. Did you say your wife made it? Would she be willing to sell one ?

  • @kirbee1113
    @kirbee1113 2 роки тому +17

    Bro the "First I'll have to talk about parallel universes" had me DEAD LMAO. Shoutouts to pannenkoek2012!

  • @PleasentDddd
    @PleasentDddd 3 роки тому +2703

    “All the angles are 0 and the area is pi.”
    As someone who loves geometry, this statement really through me off.

    • @yuvs0
      @yuvs0 3 роки тому +302

      PleasentDddd I guess you just gotta think it threw a little...

    • @PleasentDddd
      @PleasentDddd 3 роки тому +99

      Yuvraj Sethia frick

    • @viktornicht260
      @viktornicht260 3 роки тому +172

      As someone who also loves geometry, it really turned me on lol

    • @Waterwolf221
      @Waterwolf221 3 роки тому +34

      threw*

    • @anrriveradxndsigamer1495
      @anrriveradxndsigamer1495 3 роки тому +5

      I’m hungry now

  • @carykh
    @carykh 3 роки тому +5991

    whoa, that's crazy that you can figure out the areas of triangles just by knowing its angles. It feels like there's something missing in the formula but there's not!

    • @papskormsepic7670
      @papskormsepic7670 3 роки тому +362

      whats a triangle

    • @jellevanderdrift1302
      @jellevanderdrift1302 3 роки тому +60

      I think the channel 'think twice' has a video about the derivation.

    • @benlev3375
      @benlev3375 3 роки тому +52

      It's a curved space so I think that the only radius/length is scaled by pi, so pi is defined maximum when projecting onto a 2D space.

    • @friedkeenan
      @friedkeenan 3 роки тому +136

      Yeah that blew my mind. At first when he said there was no Euclidean equivalent, I thought "What? You can find the area of a triangle in Euclidean space, it's just 0.5bh" but then he said only using the angles and my whole concept of reality disintegrated. Btw, love your videos, cary

    • @vari1535
      @vari1535 3 роки тому +31

      hi cary

  • @99kylies15
    @99kylies15 2 роки тому +20

    'isnt that neat?' while talking about non euclidean formulas almost made me tear up. This man's gentle, genuine enthusiasm really is so endearing and lovely. Thanks for this vid, can't wait to check out more.

  • @ryanr27
    @ryanr27 3 роки тому +103

    Eventually, Mario will build so much negative speed, which he had built up for over 12 hours to leave this projection of 5D space

  • @efeersoy8880
    @efeersoy8880 3 роки тому +1277

    "Hey honey, do you think you could knitt me a projection of a hyperbolic tiling in 3D?"

    • @Battletrolls
      @Battletrolls 3 роки тому +4

      @SArpnt nice

    • @ej-jz5rc
      @ej-jz5rc 3 роки тому +4

      @SArpnt but who asked

    • @ej-jz5rc
      @ej-jz5rc 3 роки тому +1

      @SArpnt if nobody did, then why did you even bother to do it?

    • @ej-jz5rc
      @ej-jz5rc 3 роки тому +1

      @SArpnt very obviously nobody and i pointed that out pretty clearly if you could read

    • @ej-jz5rc
      @ej-jz5rc 3 роки тому +1

      @SArpnt thanks for criticizing your own response

  • @michaelzopff8862
    @michaelzopff8862 3 роки тому +1132

    Oooh! Holonomy is the reason why, when rotating a 3D object with a mouse, the orientation quickly gets messed up, isn't it? That would explain why my trick of moving the mouse in small circles clockwise or counter-clockwise works, too.

    • @CodeParade
      @CodeParade  3 роки тому +338

      Exactly!

    • @bencressman6110
      @bencressman6110 3 роки тому +123

      @@CodeParade It's cool that when we hold a globe in our hands, we automatically rotate it as we, well, rotate it to compensate for this effect, so we always orient things the way we are used to seeing them in map projections (keeping north "up")

    • @thelegend8570
      @thelegend8570 3 роки тому +21

      Oh hell, i knew i'd seen that somewhere before, i guess that explains it!

    • @rententee
      @rententee 3 роки тому +6

      That's what came to mind for me as well!

    • @kosherkingofisrael6381
      @kosherkingofisrael6381 3 роки тому +4

      It also reminds me of certain gears

  • @josephcsible
    @josephcsible 3 роки тому +17

    If you want to use HyperRogue to explore the hyperbolic tiling used in this video (5 squares meeting at each vertex, first seen at 4:59), here's the sequence of menu options to do so: main menu -> special modes -> experiment with geometry -> basic tiling -> {5,4} (four pentagons) -> go back -> variations -> pure -> dual of current.

  • @spoonkyscenvyscreeleton
    @spoonkyscenvyscreeleton 3 роки тому +7

    scientists: a group of very serious people in glasses and lab coats who are investigating very complex serious things
    also scientists: S P A G G H E T T I F I C A T I O N

  • @koda_pop
    @koda_pop 3 роки тому +427

    The parallel universe bit caught me off guard lmao

    • @chakra6666
      @chakra6666 3 роки тому +32

      surely the most ambitious crossover ever

    • @rehehehehehe4525
      @rehehehehehe4525 3 роки тому +39

      those goddamn parallel universes
      just tell me where is Mario
      don't tell me he's 4 PU to the left, 29 PU down and performing a satanic ritual in the out of bounds area

    • @HokoraYinphine
      @HokoraYinphine 3 роки тому +5

      PannenParade

    • @mynion24100
      @mynion24100 3 роки тому +2

      an a press is an a press...

    • @Lance0
      @Lance0 3 роки тому +3

      @@mynion24100 Were you gonna say, "it can't be only half? Well, Mynion"24" 100, hear me out. An A press has actually 3 parts to an A press, when A is pressed, when A is held, and when A is released. Now together, this forms 1 complete A press. Now usually, it's the pressing that's useful, because that's the only part that makes Mario jump. However sometimes, it's sufficient to just use the holding part, which allows Mario to do little kicks, to swim in water, to fall slowly while twirling, and to fall slowly with the wing cap. And as for the release, well there's currently no cases where that's useful or important, so don't worry about that. Now, if we map out the required A presses for Wing Mario Over the Rainbow, it would look like this. We merely need to hold A to reach the cannon platform, we need to press A to launch from the 1st cannon, and we need to press A again to launch from the 2nd platform. So how many A presses is that total? Well, it appears to be 3, and if we were doing this star in isolation, then yeah, it would be 3. But, in a full game A button challenge run, there are other A presses that occur earlier in the run, such as this A press needed to get into the course. So, if we take that A press into consideration as well, then how many A presses would it take? The naive answer would be 4, one to enter the course, and the 3 within the course that we established earlier. However, we can do better. We can actually do it in 3 by simply holding out the 1st A press to be used in the half A press because the half A press only requires A to be held, not actually pressed. So in this fashion, Wing Mario Over the Rainbow only adds on an additional 2 A presses, since the 1st A press just actually leeches off of a previous A press, so to capture this phenomenon, we call it 2.5 A presses. On a single-star basis, you round that up to 3, but in a full game run, you'd round it down to 2. So, in conclusion, since that 1st A press counts in some contexts, but adds no additional A presses in other contexts, we refer to it as a half A press.
      Edit: it's pannen time(all the words are now ripped out from pannen's video)

  • @woodant1981
    @woodant1981 3 роки тому +1020

    I actually just got non Euclidean tiling in my bathroom.

  • @alpkyu5201
    @alpkyu5201 6 місяців тому +3

    This game caught my attention because I was frantically looking for a non-euclidian game that I can play in VR. It really was one of a kind experience. The farm was most mind boggling and the best part in my opinion (which, now I see from the thumbnails for your other videos, was actually spherical space).
    Such concepts like non-euclidean spaces are hard to grasp because they are inherently abstract. Making a game around them is really a good way for people to "experience" it and make them less abstract. It was especially a treat in VR. Thanks for making this game.

  • @bigagabriel
    @bigagabriel 2 роки тому +18

    I have been reading the books of the fantasy novel The Wheel of Time. There is king of a parallel plane where one of the characters can move throw space and he describes as if things that looked really far came closer really fast. And that as he turned his head, the world would turn way faster. It might be the hyperbolic rendering you show and it might be awesome to connect that with the books fans!

  • @onion2.
    @onion2. 3 роки тому +2143

    “Think about light bending around the curved space of a black hole.” Ah yes

    • @beanmcknee1610
      @beanmcknee1610 3 роки тому +91

      It’s like a coin going down one of those donation things that make the coin spin around into the hole
      Except the coin is light and the hole is a black hole

    • @tristenarctician6910
      @tristenarctician6910 3 роки тому +11

      @@beanmcknee1610 why would the color of the hole change?
      .

    • @beanmcknee1610
      @beanmcknee1610 3 роки тому +19

      @@tristenarctician6910 no sorry what I meant was is that the coin represents light itself, not light in color
      I hope that helps

    • @michelekonakciu7052
      @michelekonakciu7052 3 роки тому +4

      @@tristenarctician6910 particle get excited and emit radiation that we perceive as a colour change

    • @Tharmin.124
      @Tharmin.124 3 роки тому

      Just think of a magnet and a ball bearing, just that they can't touch

  • @enderstriker0718
    @enderstriker0718 3 роки тому +436

    “We’re only looking down on it because we are higher dimensional beings living in a 3D universe.”

    • @daylenhigman8680
      @daylenhigman8680 3 роки тому +169

      *The 4th dimensional being watching me take a dump

    • @satyampandey2222
      @satyampandey2222 3 роки тому +55

      @UltimateGeek at the same time

    • @JotaC
      @JotaC 3 роки тому +29

      We actually live in a 4D world as 3D beings
      That's why we can't see the full extent of time

    • @nykal1510
      @nykal1510 3 роки тому +60

      @@JotaC Time is not a SPATIAL dimension, stating that we live in a four-dimensional world is irrelevant, we live in three-dimensional space

    • @ryanwolf1869
      @ryanwolf1869 3 роки тому +8

      Nykal absolute brainlet

  • @joost5609
    @joost5609 2 роки тому +8

    The Mario joke was hilarious and probably the only thing I truly understood. Very interesting and challenging subject!

  • @kylehayden3113
    @kylehayden3113 2 роки тому +21

    "So I hope that's given all of you a little better understanding about curved spaces..."
    Well, it sure hasn't, but I appreciate the effort

  • @cynicap8584
    @cynicap8584 3 роки тому +239

    "Courtesy of mrs. Parade"
    Awww, what a sweet, weird quality time

  • @thecheesybagel8589
    @thecheesybagel8589 3 роки тому +1800

    No one:
    My brain at 1 am: let’s try to understand non Euclidean geometry when I already have a hard time with algebra

    • @theredneckdrummerco.6748
      @theredneckdrummerco.6748 3 роки тому +28

      its one forty nine right now and I face the same dilemma

    • @goddamnit
      @goddamnit 3 роки тому +7

      Same :'(

    • @sonetagu1337
      @sonetagu1337 3 роки тому +12

      I dont even understand algebra wtf

    • @zinedsdrawkcab840
      @zinedsdrawkcab840 3 роки тому +3

      same, but its 4:04 am for me

    • @erenjaeger1266
      @erenjaeger1266 3 роки тому +4

      STOP IT PLEASE THIS IS SO FREAKING RELATABLE ITS 12:36 FREAKING AM I CSNT SLEEP!!!

  • @mustafamalik4211
    @mustafamalik4211 Рік тому +1

    This is so fascianting. I can't believe I never thought about the geometrical visualizations of the hyperbolic and spherical equations I learned in Vector Calculus back in University. Thank you for this amazing video!

  • @jeper3460
    @jeper3460 3 роки тому +17

    Another interesting thing with curved space is travelling through something with a lot of reference points e.g. a forest with trees or space with stars.
    When you walk through a forest in euclidean space, the trees that are more directly in front of you seem to move towards you faster, while the trees more toward the sides seem to move slower. In hyperbolic space, all of the trees seem to move at the same speed towards you, no matter how far off the centre they are. In spherical space, the trees behind you appear in front of you, and the trees off to the side almost appear to be still.

  • @rodeo_stomper
    @rodeo_stomper 3 роки тому +304

    Honestly, I have no clue what any of this means, but this dude's voice is really relaxing to me.

    • @astergh0st
      @astergh0st 3 роки тому +10

      Jøhnny Rëtznøvishchä Yeah. Too bad my inability to understand what he’s saying gives me a headache.

    • @Mysideep
      @Mysideep 3 роки тому +3

      I want to understand...

  • @BambinaSaldana
    @BambinaSaldana 3 роки тому +1583

    "But first we have to talk about parallel universe-I mean parallel lines."
    *We were on the verge of greatness,we were this close.*

    • @GlyphicEnigma
      @GlyphicEnigma 3 роки тому +62

      We just needed enough speed to get to the next PU!!!

    • @YashBeanz
      @YashBeanz 2 роки тому +4

      @@GlyphicEnigma just blj for 11 hours and you should have enough!

    • @TheaPeanut_69old
      @TheaPeanut_69old 2 роки тому +4

      the music tho
      its from another video about weird stuff a bit similar to this

    • @YashBeanz
      @YashBeanz 2 роки тому +21

      @@TheaPeanut_69old it's the file select music from Mario 64

    • @Qsie
      @Qsie 2 роки тому +7

      Man, makes me miss watching Pannen

  • @marcopivetta7796
    @marcopivetta7796 3 роки тому +2

    bro i've been watching a lot of conferences and lectures on this topic and NONE have explained it better than your videos. YOU ROCK! I'm considering taking up a math degree after getting my master in architecture next year, in part thanks to these videos.
    Love!

  • @Darthvanger
    @Darthvanger 2 роки тому +1

    Awesome!
    The best explanation of the curved spaces I've seen actually.
    And at the same time it's gonna be a game, to really experience it!

  • @simonsixt2418
    @simonsixt2418 3 роки тому +84

    8:07 Imagine creating a black hole by throwing a baseball really hard in spherical geometry

    • @marcinlechicki4019
      @marcinlechicki4019 3 роки тому +6

      Maby our universe is spherical, and that "realy hard" to get speed enough is force to give that baseball light speed.

    • @Anonymous-zd1ow
      @Anonymous-zd1ow 3 роки тому +3

      @@marcinlechicki4019 If the ball was thrown that hard it would be ripped to shreds.

    • @marcinlechicki4019
      @marcinlechicki4019 3 роки тому +3

      @@Anonymous-zd1ow You are talking from experience Hulk?

    • @ynntari2775
      @ynntari2775 3 роки тому +3

      People in general have too many misconceptions about big strength. Like lifting cars and sofas, which actually just folds the whole thing and rips off the small part you're holding. And "lifting a building" would be just passing your hands through the floor and making holes

    • @reizinhodojogo3956
      @reizinhodojogo3956 3 місяці тому

      ​@@marcinlechicki4019he changed his user to anonymous, hulk is retired now sadly

  • @Fulgur14
    @Fulgur14 3 роки тому +599

    One thing that might need mentioning is that non-Euclidean geometries, unlike the Euclidean one, possess preferred lengths. (The video only mentions "assigning unit curvature" without actually explaining what it means.)
    Simply said, in Euclidean plane, we may set our length unit to be anything. Pythagorean theorem, circumference of circle, everything will work the same no matter what units we measure in.
    In spherical geometry, we have a natural unit that is equal to the radius of the sphere. Even if the space is not actually embedded in anything and doesn't have an actual "radius", we still know what it should be because that is the only length unit in which r can be measured so the formula "2 pi sin(r)" works.
    This has colossal consequences! It means, for example, that the "similar shapes" in Euclidean geometry, where you can increase a size of, say, a triangle or a square and still keep all its angles intact. No such luck here: a triangle with sides twice as long as an original will have completely different angles. This would make things like making plans, schemes or maps harder.
    In hyperbolic geometry, a natural length unit is not that easy to see as in spherical geometry, but it nevertheless exists. There's only one possible length unit which makes the 2 pi sinh(r) formula work!
    Finally, note that spherical geometry has some additional problems the other two geometries don't have. Main one is that if you draw two straight lines on a sphere, not only will they always intersect, but they will always intersect in two antipodal points. This spoils the geometry somewhat (straight lines should only intersect in one point). The solution is so-called "elliptic" geometry, in which every pair of antipodal points on the sphere is considered just a single point. That one has its weird moments as well (for example, if you wander in a straight line, you will eventually arrive back to your starting point, but as a mirror opposite).

    • @Stetofire
      @Stetofire 3 роки тому +18

      Marek Čtrnáct You are indeed... A Super Nerd!
      *Guitar Riff*

    • @csicee
      @csicee 3 роки тому +6

      tl;dr?

    • @Fulgur14
      @Fulgur14 3 роки тому +32

      @@csicee TLDR: In non-Euclidean geometries, you are forced to measure lengths in a very specific units in order to get simplest possible formulas.

    • @Fulgur14
      @Fulgur14 3 роки тому +19

      ​@@Stetofire Well, I have been involved with HyperRogue for quite some time -- for example, you can see some of my tessellation results here: zenorogue.github.io/tes-catalog/

    • @AlxM96
      @AlxM96 3 роки тому +16

      @@Fulgur14 phenomenal insight and work, thanks! keep it up!

  • @jamesrosco4816
    @jamesrosco4816 2 роки тому +1

    I watched this a year ago and now finally have started playing Hyperbolica. It is quite the experience. Now I am back w a tching this again trying to wrap my head around it. Big thanks for making the game and these videos.

  • @fobo0053
    @fobo0053 2 роки тому +6

    you know.. i love you just by the fact that you're not "bad-repeating" something that you heard from a mathematician like the other youtubers and you are precise (it's a mathematician talking)

  • @kurlyfryz
    @kurlyfryz 3 роки тому +1580

    that feeling when non-euclidean geometry makes more sense than euclidean geometry

    • @Shrek_es_mi_pastor
      @Shrek_es_mi_pastor 3 роки тому +21

      Completamente difiero.

    • @maxnewdf
      @maxnewdf 3 роки тому +94

      @@Shrek_es_mi_pastor why your pastor is shrek?

    • @TaiFerret
      @TaiFerret 3 роки тому +121

      Euclidean geometry is just what happens when you zoom in on a surface infinitely.

    • @realnub235
      @realnub235 3 роки тому +3

      oof lol

    • @luizg8034
      @luizg8034 3 роки тому +16

      @@TaiFerret sounds strange to me, but i dont know enough topology to disprove it

  • @juancgonzalez6537
    @juancgonzalez6537 3 роки тому +475

    "But first we have to talk about parallel universes." I'm having a panic attack.

    • @rhaeven
      @rhaeven 3 роки тому +32

      *quick creepy distorted version of the Mario 64 File Select music starts*

    • @ej-jz5rc
      @ej-jz5rc 3 роки тому +33

      pannen attack*

    • @spikey288
      @spikey288 3 роки тому +2

      No you aren't

    • @thatoneguy9582
      @thatoneguy9582 2 роки тому +8

      @@spikey288
      youre not their dad

    • @spikey288
      @spikey288 2 роки тому

      @@thatoneguy9582 not you again

  • @thewarden4174
    @thewarden4174 9 місяців тому

    I really like how you explain all this, it makes it much easier to understand than just the graphs

  • @EternalPhoenix
    @EternalPhoenix 2 роки тому +1

    This has become my favorite topic to ramble about, ty

  • @CasualCosta
    @CasualCosta 3 роки тому +949

    Instructions unclear, become a flat-earther.

    • @rehehehehehe4525
      @rehehehehehe4525 3 роки тому +20

      I'm ok I don't want to be a flat earther

    • @mysterioushoodedguy2332
      @mysterioushoodedguy2332 3 роки тому +36

      Lol the thing where the triangle on a sphere has 3 right angles has actually been used to disprove flat earthers since if you take a plane and fly it a certain distance, turn right 90 degrees, fly same distance, turn 90, fly same distance, you'll end up in same place where you started because of the earth's curvature

    • @Fulgur14
      @Fulgur14 3 роки тому +7

      @@mysterioushoodedguy2332 Well, technically... but on Earth, that would be a trip of 30,000 km, so you could hardly do it without landing in-between. And that generally can't be done without turning, and how do you prove you continue in the same direction, etc. etc.
      Though it leads to an interesting question: what would be the easiest triple-90-degree triangle on Earth to travel? Or, for the matter, triple-72-degree, a part of an icosahedron?

    • @jfp0763
      @jfp0763 3 роки тому +17

      Instructions unclear, Teleported to another plane in existence and start being trained by Sherk to fight against an Otaku army

    • @mgsgamer8340
      @mgsgamer8340 3 роки тому +3

      Oh I became a non-Euclidean-earther.
      *i can hear melanie Martinez when a bird chirps now*

  • @Addsomehappy
    @Addsomehappy 3 роки тому +127

    "Stay Hyperbolic!"
    oh so you wish me to tear myself apart every time i walk anywhere gee thanks

    • @Anonymous-zd1ow
      @Anonymous-zd1ow 3 роки тому +6

      That only happens when you apply a significant amount of force to yourself.

    • @diophantine1598
      @diophantine1598 3 роки тому +8

      The Incredible Hulk Correction, velocity. Depending on the hyperbolic space (depending on r) even walking or breathing could tear you apart.

    • @olli3b3ar27
      @olli3b3ar27 3 роки тому

      this is what happens when you try and and be parallel, but you'll learn.

    • @justinaccurate347
      @justinaccurate347 3 роки тому

      I think OP was joking by being hyperbolic in his reaction?

    • @Anonymous-zd1ow
      @Anonymous-zd1ow 3 роки тому +1

      @@diophantine1598 Oh thank you for correcting me! Oh Jesus this is 7 months late XD.

  • @cdawgswizzle7229
    @cdawgswizzle7229 3 роки тому +1

    this is a perfect way to explain some of the complex concepts in Geometry Relativity and the 4th Dimension. Thanks a lot!

  • @lobsterfork
    @lobsterfork 2 роки тому +5

    I saw your reddit post for this 1 or 2 years ago (I don't remember exactly when). Really cool that you are pushing this into mainstream. I bet what you are working on will have really cool applications in the near and distant future!
    BTW HOLY SHIT THAT KNITTING IS IMPRESSIVE!

  • @theosouris7063
    @theosouris7063 3 роки тому +38

    5:47 I don’t know what I expected from this vid, but it certainly wasn’t a Pannenkoek2012 reference

  • @miljanvideo
    @miljanvideo 3 роки тому +127

    2:23 Talking about spherical geometry
    me an intellectual:
    *beach balls*

  • @centerofoperations9251
    @centerofoperations9251 6 місяців тому +2

    This is the best explanation of the topic I've ever watched

  • @sebastianmonten
    @sebastianmonten 2 роки тому

    Dude, super interesting video! Glad that I found this! I have become more and more interested in computer science, glad that I found your channel

  • @MeteoritePlayz
    @MeteoritePlayz 3 роки тому +318

    CodeParade: oh god, PLEASE STOP USING THIS!
    Pringles: no u
    Edit: how do I have about 200 more likes a month later ty

    • @pwnmeisterage
      @pwnmeisterage 3 роки тому +25

      Anticlastic diagrams are confusing because they force the viewer to visualize a non-intuitive concept in an even more non-intuitive way. They just overcomplicate stuff too much.
      Everyone immediately understands Pringles. Pringles are tasty.

    • @EliteOcto
      @EliteOcto 3 роки тому +9

      PRINGLES IN 4D

    • @Kromiball
      @Kromiball 3 роки тому +2

      @@EliteOcto lol

    • @unblorbosyourshows9635
      @unblorbosyourshows9635 3 роки тому +3

      @@EliteOcto N O N E U C L I D E A N P R I N G L E S

    • @jamiecasimir5040
      @jamiecasimir5040 3 роки тому

      ElPseudocrítico E A T

  • @Chrischi3TutorialLPs
    @Chrischi3TutorialLPs 3 роки тому +116

    "But first we have to talk about parallel universes"
    *SM64 music plays*
    Ah, i see you are a man of culture aswell.

    • @joseg.matamoros2847
      @joseg.matamoros2847 3 роки тому +1

      Bismuth be like

    • @haimric8603
      @haimric8603 3 роки тому

      Explain

    • @Chrischi3TutorialLPs
      @Chrischi3TutorialLPs 3 роки тому +11

      @@haimric8603 Its a meme about Super Mario 64. Basically due to a programming oversight theres parallel universes in the game which speedrunners use in Tool-Assisted Speedruns (Basically speedruns where you have bots make perfect inputs rather than playing yourself) to get around. And well, theres this UA-camr called Pannenkoek2012 who made a video explaining some things about speedruns, and well, that line "But first we need to talk about parallel universes" became a thing.

    • @knockrotter9372
      @knockrotter9372 3 роки тому +1

      @@Chrischi3TutorialLPs YOU CAN'T JUST PRESS THE A BUTTON A HALF OF A TIME IT'S STILL AN A PRESS

  • @DigitalDuelist
    @DigitalDuelist Рік тому

    This makes so much more sense than any explanation I have ever seen. Thank you!

  • @blue-ou6uf
    @blue-ou6uf Рік тому

    this is amazingly explained omg. so much content i expected to be overwhelming but isnt.

  • @centokiVA
    @centokiVA 3 роки тому +353

    this genuinely has taught me more about non-euclidean geometry than my classes have

    • @pattyryopotybuttongamer3063
      @pattyryopotybuttongamer3063 2 роки тому +4

      and after that you have to plug the red wire into the socket to make sure the engine boots at launch. Wrap the green wire around it's coil that sits directly beside the A button. After you put the back shell on, place the battery in the slot. Screw the Vr26 Jeeper back up and press the reset button. If everything worked according to plan you're device should show a thumbs up sprite. Plug the HDMI port into a monitor and wait three seconds. If it boots up on TV your in the good side. If it doesn't boot in less then 5 seconds quickly unplug. This can severely damage your TV and possibly start a fire

    • @diamante8864
      @diamante8864 2 роки тому +12

      this genuinely has taught me more about *euclidean* geometry than my classes have

    • @Crazyclay78YT
      @Crazyclay78YT Рік тому +3

      bruh why tf would you be taking non euclidean geometry in school

    • @ThomasTheThermonuclearBomb
      @ThomasTheThermonuclearBomb 9 місяців тому

      ​@@pattyryopotybuttongamer3063bro what are you talking about

  • @grandstrategos1144
    @grandstrategos1144 3 роки тому +201

    Clarification for everyone in the comments. When he talks about lines in spherical geometry, he is mentioning the spherical geometry definition of a line. In spherical geometry, the definition of a line is one of the great circles of the sphere. So you can’t use different latitudes or longitudes.

    • @PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth
      @PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth 3 роки тому +9

      This clarifies things quite a but for me. Thank you!

    • @nancyburgos1231
      @nancyburgos1231 3 роки тому +8

      I was wondering exactly that jaja! Thank you

    • @nicbajitogaming8947
      @nicbajitogaming8947 2 роки тому +5

      Geodesics waving to the world 🤗 Hi, geodesic !!

    • @wa5657
      @wa5657 10 місяців тому

      oh thank you, i was just hung up on that :v

  • @mordechailevinson8646
    @mordechailevinson8646 2 роки тому

    ....Thank you so much for posting this video & the "heads-up" on Henry Segerman.....

  • @Grey-mo5py
    @Grey-mo5py 2 роки тому +1

    ive watched this video so many times and I love it every time

  • @Tubeytime
    @Tubeytime 3 роки тому +282

    Holonomy is something I've known about for years due to playing around in various programs/simulations/games but I never knew there was a word for it until now!

    • @pluspiping
      @pluspiping 3 роки тому +31

      Same! I build 3D models for my job and I guess it's why you need "reset view" buttons when you're zooming around the model in "3D space". You get real lost real fast. Now I know there's a word for it! Cool!

    • @eugenegarcia6155
      @eugenegarcia6155 2 роки тому +1

      Tell me about it

    • @cheesepop7175
      @cheesepop7175 Рік тому +2

      holonomy happens in gmod

    • @Crazyclay78YT
      @Crazyclay78YT Рік тому +1

      @@cheesepop7175 bro it happens fucking everywhere

    • @Crazyclay78YT
      @Crazyclay78YT Рік тому +3

      yeah 3d modeling really showed me that. if you just click and drag in circles, moving the camera around the object, it rotates. at first i was like "wtf why does it do that" and i thought it was a glitch or something in the software. now that i know that it has a word, i will definitely try to squeeze that into my vernacular

  • @MozartSrs
    @MozartSrs 3 роки тому +638

    No one:
    My blanket when I’m trying to find the short end at 3am: 3:00

  • @greggreen5510
    @greggreen5510 6 місяців тому +2

    @CodeParade I recently have been learning about the hyperbolic trigonometric functions. I am having a hard time finding information on how a hyperbolic triangle relates to the hyperbolic functions. Where did you find out so much information about spherical and hyperbolic geometry? This video is astoundingly amazing!

  • @renormalization
    @renormalization 11 місяців тому +1

    This is a great video to motivate the anti-de Sitter spacetime (hyperbolic spacetime) for holography. Nicely done!

  • @matsol2158
    @matsol2158 3 роки тому +43

    7:30 This guy :"Now we've walked on a pentagon with five right angles"
    My math teacher :"Wait... that's illegal..."

  • @SoftyWalterGames
    @SoftyWalterGames 3 роки тому +8

    As soon as you said "there wouldn't even be a horizon" my mind exploded trying to visualise earth without horizons

    • @elietheprof5678
      @elietheprof5678 3 роки тому +2

      If you live in America, the sky is Australia.

  • @jamalford961
    @jamalford961 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for this, your channel helps my mind.

  • @wilson2736
    @wilson2736 2 роки тому +1

    I love that reference at 5:46, made me laugh. thanks for that

  • @JohnsontheFly
    @JohnsontheFly 3 роки тому +27

    That awkward moment when hitting a baseball in spherical space creates a naked singularity and by extension accidentally creates 0-dimentional space

  • @Epicvibes999
    @Epicvibes999 3 роки тому +34

    “It only looks 3D because we are higher dimensional beings, looking down on the flatlanders.”
    Hip Hop Artists: *”haha , fisheye go wobble wobble”*

  • @unbekannter771
    @unbekannter771 3 роки тому +1

    Dude are you a university professor or something?
    This is literally the best visual representation of projection and space warping, along with the best and easiest to understand explanation Ive ever come across!

  • @nemesisurvivorleon
    @nemesisurvivorleon Рік тому

    I love this concept so much.
    And Hyperbolica is an amazing game.

  • @leebee42069
    @leebee42069 3 роки тому +55

    Me: I'm going to crochet a hat!
    The hat: 3:20
    Me: why does this always happen?

  • @hitzcritz
    @hitzcritz 3 роки тому +82

    5:44 "But first, we have to talk about parallel ̶u̶n̶i̶v̶e̶r̶s̶e̶s̶ lines!"
    *_my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined_*

  • @mixadengitti
    @mixadengitti 2 роки тому +1

    This is extremely fascinating.

  • @MayBeSomething
    @MayBeSomething 2 роки тому +3

    "But first, I need to talk about parallel universes"
    You had me there!

  • @aethershard463
    @aethershard463 3 роки тому +172

    CodeParade: Wanna guess what the hyperbolic opposite is?
    Me: cosine(r)? I mean that’s the “opposite” of sine.
    CodeParade: No you fool it’s hyPErBoLiC sine!!!

    • @XDinky
      @XDinky 3 роки тому +8

      Isn't the opposite of sine just minus sine?
      I guess you need to define "opposite"

    • @zacozacoify
      @zacozacoify 3 роки тому +14

      I would say the opposite of sin is either -sin, or inverse sin (arcsin). Cos is more like the complement to sin, it’s what you get when you shift sin by -90 degrees.

    • @anonymousperson6228
      @anonymousperson6228 3 роки тому +4

      Or it could be cosecant. It’s the reciprocal of sine.

    • @Fulgur14
      @Fulgur14 3 роки тому +7

      @@zacozacoify sinh is, in a way, sin rotated 90 degrees: sinh(x) = -i sin (ix)

    • @Fulgur14
      @Fulgur14 3 роки тому

      @Multorum Unum It can be if sin(ix) is pure imaginary.

  • @BAVBAVBAV
    @BAVBAVBAV 3 роки тому +506

    An A press is just an A press. You can’t just call it a half.

  • @havocmaverick
    @havocmaverick 11 місяців тому +1

    Twenty five years ago when I was sick I had a fever dream about playing a hyperbolic game. I had to place a tower or skyscraper then when my opponent would place one it would make mine shorter. It was kind of like a three dimensional version of GO. Very neat.

  • @exintrovert1337
    @exintrovert1337 2 роки тому +1

    Very nice explanation! Thank you.

  • @crackedemerald4930
    @crackedemerald4930 3 роки тому +119

    Hyperbolic space: when you have more space every space you space

    • @Kaiveran
      @Kaiveran 3 роки тому +5

      Xzibit would like to know your location

  • @tentimestay9181
    @tentimestay9181 3 роки тому +19

    "But first, we have to talk about parallel univers-- I mean parallel lines" so unexpected, genuinely cackled

  • @dieguillo93
    @dieguillo93 Рік тому

    Absolutely interesting! THank you so much!
    To me, the parabolical movement feels so smooth and in a sense quite natural. I see as well as the 3 methods could simbolize the unity between the macrocosmos and the microcosmos, being the sherical as a reflection of the macro, euclidian as the eye of the observer and parabolic as the ladder to the microsystems. For example you can see how parabolical estructures relate more to organic growings and spherical more to celestial objects.

  • @adrienlawrence1024
    @adrienlawrence1024 2 роки тому

    was reading about relativity and when the book started talking about the shape of the universe and stuff I was pretty lost, this video helped a lot, didn't even know this was going to be related to what I was trying to figure out

  • @Lugmillord
    @Lugmillord 3 роки тому +14

    When the Mario 64 music kicks in, I knew what was coming and I wasn't disappointed.

  • @LionsInBoots
    @LionsInBoots 3 роки тому +26

    5:44 „I was already 5 PUs ahead of you...“

    • @ej-jz5rc
      @ej-jz5rc 3 роки тому +5

      4* because then he'd be QPU misaligned

  • @rydz3442
    @rydz3442 3 роки тому +1

    it hurts the brain to watch your videos. I love it

  • @Lobstro
    @Lobstro 2 роки тому +3

    Hey, I just finished playing through Hyperbolica! The thing that kept catching me off guard in the game was how much longer it would take to walk around the perimeter of each of the worlds instead of walking straight across their center. At first glance the world would seem small, but after reaching an edge and spending time walking around it would feel massive. I hope this encourages many more people to make hyperbolic games.

  • @albingrahn5576
    @albingrahn5576 3 роки тому +26

    can’t wait to see the 0.5 A-press run for hyperbolica!

    • @Lance0
      @Lance0 3 роки тому +3

      well, we need 4 things:
      HSPW, forcing scuttlebugs to have a jamboree, pannen, and TJ """"Henry"""" Yoshi.

    • @ej-jz5rc
      @ej-jz5rc 3 роки тому +1

      @@Lance0 don't forget groundpounding the misalignment

  • @hytalefanboi7471
    @hytalefanboi7471 3 роки тому +33

    "do u like maths or programming?"
    code parade: "yes"

    • @randairp
      @randairp 3 роки тому +2

      Fun fact: by the Curry-Howard Correspondence, maths and programming are literally identical (two perspectives of the same thing).

    • @jedizombiekiller9065
      @jedizombiekiller9065 3 роки тому +1

      @@randairp Fun Fact: semicolon

  • @Christophe_L
    @Christophe_L 2 роки тому +1

    I've been following for ages and finally I can play it. My brain liked your game. My stomach did not. 10/10.

  • @skatheo2716
    @skatheo2716 Рік тому

    this is giving me very good insight for special relativity. Thank you!

  • @bubblehead9548
    @bubblehead9548 3 роки тому +3

    Ok I was completely lost until my drowning brain just screamed YOU CAN FIT MORE SPACE IN SPACE and I understood this for approximately a quarter of a second before my dumb mortal brain decided that was too much. You have obviously entered into some terrible contract with Yog-sothoth to have such a deep understanding of hyperbolic space, and for that I fear and respect you, and legit can’t wait to play hyperbolica

  • @Brindlebrother
    @Brindlebrother 3 роки тому +59

    Mrs. Parade: "I'm about to crochet in a whole other dimension"

  • @CallmeAlexey
    @CallmeAlexey 2 роки тому +1

    ive been always thinking of wormholes and space bent in 4D but ive never seen this simple explanation, daaamn! nice video!
    also, if we count the time axis too, like adding one more axis on spheric 2D world it would be confusing as hell but it would look really cool lol.

  • @RhoTrepaan
    @RhoTrepaan 2 роки тому

    This is gorgeous! (And very hard to comprehend)

  • @JotaC
    @JotaC 3 роки тому +19

    "I hope this made you understand hyperbolic spaces better"
    Me, with questions I didn't even know I would ask someday: Sure, thanks.

  • @Marci124
    @Marci124 3 роки тому +64

    I didn't think there were too many interesting tidbits in this topic that I wasn't aware of, but this video proved me wrong!

    • @sreyam7
      @sreyam7 3 роки тому +2

      Same! I realised I have very little intuition about these things beyond the standard "hyperbolic spaces as saddle-shaped with all lines eventually diverging" basic picture.

  • @Neotenico
    @Neotenico 2 роки тому

    I bought a VR headset for the first time and was super excited when I saw Hyperbolica on Steam as a VR compatible title. I'm really looking forward to trying it out!

  • @mellymoore8390
    @mellymoore8390 Рік тому

    Having never known any of this even existed before and suddenly being thrown at Lobachevski’s Theory of Parallels and asked to write a paper on it, THIS helps. Thank you!