THE ONLY CORRECT FIGHTING GAME TIER LIST (ft. a tier list hater)

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  • @FightingGameSelect
    @FightingGameSelect  3 роки тому +197

    Yes, we made Jiyuna do a tier list. Who had the worst opinion on games this video? Reply and we’ll let the most replied person know!

    • @saltysalmoling8055
      @saltysalmoling8055 3 роки тому +5

      Bruh pokken is an S tier game don't even lie!!!

    • @biddergick2890
      @biddergick2890 3 роки тому +3

      So he’s a huge Blazblue fan? Im hoping we get a remake with Guilty Gear graphics.

    • @agaed7676
      @agaed7676 3 роки тому +4

      Jwong

    • @Sansanmar
      @Sansanmar 3 роки тому

      I paused the video on minute one to say that I, imo, Jiyuna will be the one to be with the upsets. Starting from his love above all of air dashers/anime fg's.

    • @AlcheonArt
      @AlcheonArt 3 роки тому +7

      @@agaed7676 100% Jwong, from the moment he put DBFZ in Trash....TRASH??? c'mon man

  • @carlbob0002
    @carlbob0002 3 роки тому +348

    Jiyuna was probably at gunpoint. That's why he's doing this tier list.

    • @ANIMEILLUMINATI
      @ANIMEILLUMINATI 3 роки тому +97

      Help.

    • @BADink3D
      @BADink3D 3 роки тому +6

      @@ANIMEILLUMINATI Don't you worry : Pretty sure I'm not the only one thinking you did awesome!

    • @madthrasher88
      @madthrasher88 2 роки тому +1

      By Sajam.

  • @8dumplings
    @8dumplings 3 роки тому +231

    This was the video I learned I'm gonna throw hands with Justin. It's on sight, Wong.

    • @mikeyRoxx981
      @mikeyRoxx981 3 роки тому +14

      Being the G.O.A.T, he has a very interesting perspective on fighting games lol

    • @legendredux1291
      @legendredux1291 3 роки тому +12

      Justin cant even say dbfz right kek

    • @theinktician
      @theinktician 3 роки тому +2

      Yeah he was tweakin

    • @ELFanatic
      @ELFanatic 3 роки тому +2

      @@mikeyRoxx981 I think Justin looked up metacritic before he made his S tier.

    • @vaudou_
      @vaudou_ 2 роки тому +5

      @@ELFanatic You know Justin competed in pretty much every one of his S tier games except Smash right?

  • @barbedwings
    @barbedwings 3 роки тому +258

    Poor Jiyuna, they dragged him down into the mud and made him one of them.

  • @dongledude9448
    @dongledude9448 3 роки тому +190

    Jinuya gave himself to the Panda lords

    • @FightingGameSelect
      @FightingGameSelect  3 роки тому +44

      The correct decision

    • @mikeyRoxx981
      @mikeyRoxx981 3 роки тому +2

      @@FightingGameSelect no one ever considered it wasn't. Great pick up Panda

    • @galaxyman7026
      @galaxyman7026 3 роки тому +1

      I thought that I replied to a video I never seen before when I saw your prof pic

  • @jojokim5617
    @jojokim5617 3 роки тому +142

    good to see sajam getting picked up !

  • @connormcmahon5375
    @connormcmahon5375 3 роки тому +68

    Justin Wong: “I wish I played Killer Instinct more”
    Also Justin Wong: Top 8 at EVO

  • @piranhaplant8483
    @piranhaplant8483 3 роки тому +57

    It's a shame SamSho has such doo doo netcode. That game put a For Honor character in a 2d fighter

    • @MathiasWolfbrok
      @MathiasWolfbrok 3 роки тому +6

      I mean when your game's online works better on the Switch than on the PS4, and doesn"t even have crossplay between XB1 and XBS, you know there's a real problem

    • @Sg6CrossOver
      @Sg6CrossOver 3 роки тому +1

      Such a sad thing, the game is great poor online and no crossplay killed the game

    • @piranhaplant8483
      @piranhaplant8483 3 роки тому +3

      @@Sg6CrossOver Goes to show how poor management of a games can really hurt, injure, or kill a game

  • @tkpipo
    @tkpipo 3 роки тому +105

    Jiyuna new that he could not change Panda Global, so instead of reflecting on himself, he blamed the tier lists. But he found beauty on the tier list and couldn’t lie to himself about it.

  • @alexevaldez
    @alexevaldez 3 роки тому +53

    Holy shit I did not expect this was Jiyunas first video. This is too funny XD

  • @submarinecatdraws1079
    @submarinecatdraws1079 3 роки тому +38

    I can't believe they forced the SEAM 2015 P4AU Champion to do a tier list.

  • @redneckedcrake7059
    @redneckedcrake7059 3 роки тому +28

    Save my man Jiyuna, he's being held hostage.

  • @longjohns7087
    @longjohns7087 3 роки тому +32

    4:20 I love how KP is having a crisis trying to decide where to put mk11 meanwhile justin and jiyuna throw that shit in Z tier with no second thought

    • @diamonshade7484
      @diamonshade7484 2 роки тому

      With that time stamp they high

    • @prodwazzam
      @prodwazzam 2 роки тому

      even though mk11 and ij2 are better than most the games on this list

  • @mikeyRoxx981
    @mikeyRoxx981 3 роки тому +24

    Good shit Panda. The 3 completely different perspectives of fighting games was perfect. You have the greatest of all time fighting game player in Justin. Kitana, commentator/player/personality of his scene. Jiyuna, Japanese/commentator/T.O./personality/player. The demographics covered by these 3 is very big. You did good Panda lol I applaud you guys

  • @simons9264
    @simons9264 3 роки тому +18

    DO NOT MAKE TIER LISTS
    DO NOT DISCUSS TIER LISTS

    • @Sorrelhas
      @Sorrelhas 3 роки тому +5

      DO NOT MAKE TIER LISTS
      DO NOT DISCUSS TIER LISTS

  • @onyourleft9273
    @onyourleft9273 3 роки тому +15

    Hey Jinuya blink twice if you’re being held at gun point

  • @ApolloMV2
    @ApolloMV2 3 роки тому +49

    Jiyuna having to rank smash is hilarious LMFAO

  • @churchplacething1308
    @churchplacething1308 3 роки тому +9

    I really REALLY wanted these guys to play pokken, because the game is still filled with an active comunity and i recently got back into it. Now that they all rated it at a D... I'm not sure i wanna see them play if they don't enjoy it
    Edit: Except KP. Thanks KP.

  • @crkhane
    @crkhane 3 роки тому +13

    I still can't believe Mike Shinoda is a part of Panda now, crazy

  • @chevo6894
    @chevo6894 3 роки тому +31

    I can’t believe sajam made a tier list

  • @frostyblack1840
    @frostyblack1840 3 роки тому +10

    I love the way jiyuna is meming tierlists and combo trials in the beginning

  • @Fleetw00d
    @Fleetw00d 3 роки тому +8

    Looking forward to Jiyuna's KOF13 trials, UNI trials, GG trials.
    lol jk

  • @Midas526
    @Midas526 3 роки тому +42

    Pokken is actually really, really good. The character balance is absolutely unparalleled in anything else I've seen or played, and the ability for different people to play the characters in very different ways is huge. I won't claim it's, like, the best ever, these guys certainly have far broader experience than I do, but, I think Pokken is way better than most people give it credit for.

    • @CJ-zm5dw
      @CJ-zm5dw 3 роки тому +6

      Thank you. People don't know it and call it trash

    • @freetrader0000
      @freetrader0000 2 роки тому +2

      I payed $60 + DLC but no one wanted to play it with me! They told me it was trash. I don't get it, it looks and plays fine.

    • @toxicsmoke194
      @toxicsmoke194 2 роки тому

      @@freetrader0000 whoever said that must be insane. Me and a couple of friends(not big into FGs themselves) play this from time to time and they still enjoy it

    • @duckonquack6404
      @duckonquack6404 2 роки тому

      I just wish it was more like Tekken, the combo's for me aren't the best.

    • @LucDaMan4
      @LucDaMan4 2 роки тому

      @@duckonquack6404 nah the combo's are fun af

  • @squaminator
    @squaminator 3 роки тому +9

    Jiyuna said "I'm rambling" he said the line!

  • @davetorres3906
    @davetorres3906 3 роки тому +6

    I share the sentiment with UMVC3, that game belongs in the hall of hype

  • @Bobprotoss
    @Bobprotoss 3 роки тому +25

    For content, how about to put these guys to play the games they put in trash/D tier?
    I would like to see them suffer. 😅
    Even here Jiyuna keep showing his Persona trophy. LMAO.

  • @gingeysnap2090
    @gingeysnap2090 3 роки тому +2

    Justin really put MvCI over DBFZ? Really now?
    Edit: I also just noticed he put BOTH Smash games over FighterZ. I get this is his opinion, but come on bro.

    • @paulakroy2635
      @paulakroy2635 3 роки тому +1

      Yeah mvci has better gameplay

    • @chrispo7610
      @chrispo7610 2 роки тому

      Deadass mvci has good gameplay

  • @hotzauhse
    @hotzauhse 2 роки тому +2

    Smash enjoyable to watch? Shit i must be a hater because i can't stand watching it 😵‍💫

  • @andrewsotelo6633
    @andrewsotelo6633 3 роки тому +14

    Smash Ultimate’s online should disqualify it from being high on any of these damn tier lists

    • @falo4043
      @falo4043 3 роки тому +9

      This is just based on the game itself. Online is not a factor. Or else, every game with rollback netcode would automatically be S tier

    • @overdrivee00
      @overdrivee00 3 роки тому +4

      @@falo4043 tell that to samsho

    • @ASHtheSLUGCAT
      @ASHtheSLUGCAT 3 роки тому +1

      Not everyone cares about online. Melee has been around longer than any other fighting game and it is played on the CRT with a modified GameCube controller.

    • @paulakroy2635
      @paulakroy2635 3 роки тому +1

      Yeah but smash has actual single player content

    • @ELFanatic
      @ELFanatic 3 роки тому +1

      @@ASHtheSLUGCAT That game came out before ppl played console online. Nobody complains about Pong not having great netcode either.

  • @Aripuni1
    @Aripuni1 3 роки тому +5

    Jiyuna you supposed to destroy tierlist man not join them XD

  • @sheikhu1039
    @sheikhu1039 3 роки тому +5

    I actually wish there was an uncut version of this vid, if love to hear they're full opinions

  • @mrgabest
    @mrgabest 2 роки тому +1

    I know it's a minority opinion, but I'd put SFV in trash tier. Even now, with a complete roster and a bunch of balancing. Fuck SFV. Not the SF we asked for.

  • @Yung_Lowdown59
    @Yung_Lowdown59 2 роки тому +1

    DOA always gets hate lol I love it I know the micro transactions are horrible but it's so fun I've played most these except the old street fighters and marvel vs Capcom and Soul Caliber 6 and DOA are easily my favorites out of all these with MKX at #3

  • @donk5058
    @donk5058 3 роки тому +3

    The absolute disrespect including pokken tekken but not Skullgirls

  • @sandythamtono2081
    @sandythamtono2081 3 роки тому +7

    Jiyuna and justin's taste is so inverted. Lol

    • @ELFanatic
      @ELFanatic 3 роки тому

      Jiyuna tier is based on his opinion, Justin's is based on metacritic scores.

    • @vaudou_
      @vaudou_ 2 роки тому +6

      @@ELFanatic Tell me you don't know who Justin Wong is without telling me you don't know who Justin Wong is

  • @brianpbillingsley3687
    @brianpbillingsley3687 3 роки тому +4

    "It's so deep, it's so hard."
    😐

  • @tigerex777
    @tigerex777 Рік тому +1

    Ultimate Marvel 3 and KOF 13 in Justin's S tier list is all I needed to see. My two favorte fighting games.

  • @greenhillmario
    @greenhillmario 3 роки тому +4

    The jiyuna corruption arc

  • @BeeLy1011
    @BeeLy1011 2 роки тому +3

    Damn, the universal DOA slander 😔
    Just wanna say, pretty much everything Kitana said about Pokken could easily be applied to DOA as well.

  • @Sorrelhas
    @Sorrelhas 3 роки тому +4

    Guys, look for clues on the background, I think Jiyuna is being held at gunpoint

  • @memog.4910
    @memog.4910 3 роки тому +8

    Jwong putting DB fighters on trash tier? Super based and wongpilled.

    • @El_Chuchuca
      @El_Chuchuca 2 роки тому +3

      JWong thinking that DBFZ should be like MvC, while they are 2 fundamentally different games.

    • @adrianguillen4719
      @adrianguillen4719 2 роки тому +1

      I personally prefer fighterZ over MvC in general. Those games and their mechanics set the player who's down a character up for failure.

  • @Eggroll3s
    @Eggroll3s 3 роки тому +6

    First off, proud of you Jiyuna. Been watching you since the early days and I'm happy to see you made it. Second, why you gotta torture my boy LMAO
    Edit: Pokkén is tied with Catherine, Melty, and Angel Eyes for my favourite fighting game ever. It's arguably one of the only fighting games in my top 10 games ever (other than Catherine being my favourite). Even though I love the game, bad marketing (or lack thereof) pushed a lot of eager fans away from our scene. It's honestly pretty sad, but I respect their opinions.
    Except Jiyuna fuck you for putting blazblue over rev2 man I used to love you 😔

    • @bloody4558
      @bloody4558 3 роки тому +2

      WHat can he do, Jiyuna only spits facts. Look he was the only one to put MK where it really belongs

    • @tabkg5802
      @tabkg5802 2 роки тому +2

      BBCF >>>> Rev2. Sorry not sorry.
      AC+R is on par tho

  • @kenshiiro
    @kenshiiro 3 роки тому +4

    okay, now force sajam to play SSBU lmao

  • @DereckMc360
    @DereckMc360 Рік тому +1

    16:33 can tell this guy never played any fighting games before🤷

  • @SlickEvan
    @SlickEvan 3 роки тому +3

    Save my boi Jiyuna 😂 Lol. This was a good video. Also LET EM KNOW Jiyuna, Tekken 7 kinda bloated.

  • @nolanmackall5165
    @nolanmackall5165 3 роки тому +1

    DBFZ Could be so godlike but super dash and some low tiers are low tier for no reason(Goku Black, Zamasu, and Freiza) like why are these characters so bad compared to the whole roster? Who cares about nappa and A16 they could stay trash

  • @playharderscrub
    @playharderscrub 3 роки тому +2

    Dragon ball fighterz trash my soul been hurt 😞

    • @Aripuni1
      @Aripuni1 3 роки тому

      Hey look at Jiyuna tierlist its so accurate

    • @Afr0Thund3r
      @Afr0Thund3r 3 роки тому +3

      Nah, Justin just being a bitch.

    • @paulakroy2635
      @paulakroy2635 3 роки тому +1

      Nah Justin based

  • @MrTteee
    @MrTteee Рік тому +1

    IMO it would have been better if the y debated on one Teir list instead of 3 separate list.

  • @FlyingShadow11
    @FlyingShadow11 2 роки тому +1

    gg strive is def trash imo. limited combos, so boring from what the game use to be with the gattling

  • @pxplusk6862
    @pxplusk6862 3 роки тому +1

    The worst Tier list iever seen hahahaha

  • @revivedsoul1099
    @revivedsoul1099 2 роки тому +1

    Played Tekken, Injustice, DBFZ, MK11, Smash. My fav was MK11 the uniqeness and the combos is just endless. Love it. Liked DBFZ to, but the assist system is annoying. Even tho i love dbz. Also got top %10 on it after 1 month. I think MK11 is the greatest game. Can always change my view if play other mentioed like Marvel.

    • @HyperSonico224
      @HyperSonico224 2 роки тому +1

      Bro mk11 is trash, this game only have 2 ways to do a combo plus is boring ASF.

    • @revivedsoul1099
      @revivedsoul1099 2 роки тому

      @@HyperSonico224 Prob because you trash at it and cant mix or block xD. What game is better than it lol? To each their own.

    • @MILDMONSTER1234
      @MILDMONSTER1234 Рік тому

      @@revivedsoul1099 11 is worse then X

  • @natemcdonald9390
    @natemcdonald9390 2 роки тому +1

    dbfz doesn't belong w/ THOSE

  • @BBQJuice
    @BBQJuice 3 роки тому +1

    How was Melty Blood not here when JoJo's and even Sailor Moon was? 🤔

  • @loganreidy7055
    @loganreidy7055 3 роки тому +1

    Not gonna lie I got clickbaited by melee being so low in the thumbnail. Who edited this >:(

  • @duckjab1117
    @duckjab1117 2 роки тому +1

    ultimate over melee?
    I need his plug ASAP

  • @KxterHP
    @KxterHP 2 роки тому +2

    Who tf puts mkx in d tier tf???

    • @DereckMc360
      @DereckMc360 Рік тому +2

      Some loser who never plays fighting games

  • @Namagi
    @Namagi 2 роки тому +2

    I need a video of Jiyuna playing Smash against a very toxic Marss.

  • @sonictrain1
    @sonictrain1 3 роки тому +1

    KitanaPrime Could probably sell me on mvc3

  • @jeanegreene374
    @jeanegreene374 2 роки тому +1

    Skullgirls music but no Skullgirls :(

  • @donkeydarko77
    @donkeydarko77 3 роки тому +1

    DragonBall Fighterz a tier above KoF XIII?
    Proof that opinions can be flat-out wrong.

  • @thepaper888
    @thepaper888 3 роки тому +2

    The Blue Shirt short hair guy's list is based upon how people would perceive his list, the other's are based on their opinions.

  • @lostinmusic2866
    @lostinmusic2866 2 роки тому +2

    I think mkx is a great game, but learning a character and all the moves was a hole journey

  • @sportsmodematt
    @sportsmodematt 3 роки тому +1

    I respect justin wong saying dbz is trash but he lost me at sfv s tier

  • @JaydizzleYT
    @JaydizzleYT 3 роки тому +1

    Clickbait Thumbnail??? Dislike...and reported simple. 👌

  • @Keeby.
    @Keeby. 3 роки тому +1

    Ult is B bc of how shit the lag is online even offline its got a good amount of lag

    • @chrispo7610
      @chrispo7610 2 роки тому

      Offline it has 6 frames or so of input lag iirc

  • @griffendesai2039
    @griffendesai2039 3 роки тому +1

    I fucking love mkx so much

  • @AnActualDinosaur
    @AnActualDinosaur 3 роки тому +2

    Look what they did to my balding boy. They're making him do tier lists... Like an animal!

  • @nhall129
    @nhall129 3 роки тому +2

    This is Panda’s revenge for Jiyuna’s tier list bashing

  • @jermiahevans755
    @jermiahevans755 3 роки тому +1

    Smash should be D

  • @yurazah
    @yurazah 3 роки тому +1

    why is Justin's list so cursed...

  • @jonathanbarnes111
    @jonathanbarnes111 3 роки тому +3

    Jiyuna sold his soul to the panda gods

  • @tahaelhour690
    @tahaelhour690 3 роки тому +1

    The way I got into fighting games is my cousin's PS3. Kid Pulled out the KOF XIII and the two half broken remotes and I instantly loved it.

  • @mininuke5391
    @mininuke5391 3 роки тому +2

    Nice seeing all these gigachads together and sajam especially the best p4u player.

  • @hz-ic2cw
    @hz-ic2cw 2 роки тому +1

    my problem with marvel vs capcom 3 is they had 10 years to make the game. They released the most broken game ever scrapped it after 6 months, announcing Ultimate mvc3 and recharging for the entire game instead of releasing a patch or dlc to fix the already made and purchased game. They essentially made anyone who played it buy it twice and the whole purpose was to rebalance the game, so they add in dark phoenix and virgil who killed the drive for half the community both casuals and pros. It was the biggest lack of concern for a community id ever witness. It was worse than EA or Bethesda combined. The same exact thing actually happened for street fighter 4. The game was out for 8 months and they released super as a brand new game full price instead of just making it dlc again. Then a couple months later dlc comes out for super. Out of all the companies that get slammed for being shills to their customers, Capcom is the only company that gets a complete pass.
    It's a shame that the finished product of Capcoms game are absolutely amazing. But their business model pushes me to other fighting games.
    I can already tell sf6 will come out for 6 months, it will get a release, then immediate dlc. It's hook line and sinker with this company and I wish more people would call out capcom instead of blinding slobbing on their knob.

  • @sonictrain1
    @sonictrain1 3 роки тому +2

    Jiyuna's tier list was the best obviously.

  • @brazmo
    @brazmo 3 роки тому +1

    LET'S GOOO
    the new era of the Illuminati officialy started

  • @Euro.Patriot
    @Euro.Patriot 2 роки тому +1

    Mortal Kombat
    Tekken
    Everything else is irrelevant.

  • @Anfinith
    @Anfinith 2 роки тому

    Why you don't play DBFZ? Because is not Marvel... Justin as much as you hate to admit it, it is Marvel, you just don't want to play it because it's not Marvel 2, that's it.

  • @thegloveofficial3838
    @thegloveofficial3838 2 роки тому

    The only game that matters is MvC 3 (Marvel vs capcom 3) literally like why play anything else what other game can be that fun. jk

  • @frankmartinjr6236
    @frankmartinjr6236 3 роки тому +1

    Where’s Power Rangers Battle for the Grid

  • @mikeyRoxx981
    @mikeyRoxx981 3 роки тому +1

    16:44 ayyyee ! The trophy made it's Panda debut also ! Lol
    #JiyunaPersonaKing

  • @SSJUnderDog
    @SSJUnderDog 3 роки тому +1

    where's persona 4 arena ultimax?

  • @sipp8741
    @sipp8741 2 роки тому

    ngl I ain't even watched but the thumbnail already has me pressed putting mk11 over third strike, dbfz, and marvel 3

  • @loohole81
    @loohole81 3 роки тому +1

    ONLY tier lists that matter are your OWN. All other tier lists are just a bit of FUN nothing serious.

    • @ELFanatic
      @ELFanatic 3 роки тому +2

      Tier lists are garbage

    • @loohole81
      @loohole81 3 роки тому

      @@ELFanatic The truth, well put.

    • @loohole81
      @loohole81 2 роки тому

      @Zold What? You think I'm a Nintendo fanboy on what grounds? You think I'm new fighting games on what grounds? Explain yourself, you trash talking piece of. And I bet you cannot explain yourself. Trash like you belittle the FGC.

  • @Darkmaster919
    @Darkmaster919 3 роки тому +1

    Lmao Panda making Jiyuna eat his words about tier lists. Panda is ruthless.

  • @asdasddas100
    @asdasddas100 3 роки тому +1

    Do you guys have full videos? I wanna see what Jwong said about Uni 👀

  • @_K1WDK
    @_K1WDK 2 роки тому

    WHAT MELEE IN D well soz I should not talk about peoples opinions

  • @welcometowallys8158
    @welcometowallys8158 3 роки тому +1

    Justin is true about jojo hftf be fun to watch, the characters are unique and it just oozes style
    You get reeled in because you are jojo fan and then you find a really interesting fighting game

  • @jamesgraham5993
    @jamesgraham5993 3 роки тому +1

    You guys gotta try and do you own version of excellent adventures

  • @johnceana508
    @johnceana508 3 роки тому +1

    Fellas really reversed the tier list in the thumbnail to bait the hate watchers in

  • @Shodan130
    @Shodan130 3 роки тому +1

    jojo's fr ain't that hard, as long as you don't pick devo or dio the execution floor isn't that high

  • @WolfMoon351
    @WolfMoon351 10 місяців тому

    2:42 ITS DRAGON BALL FIGHTERZ NOT DRAGON BALL FIGHTERS Z!

  • @mosari3171
    @mosari3171 3 роки тому +1

    No Skullgirls :,(

    • @ReitheOffbeatOtaku
      @ReitheOffbeatOtaku 3 роки тому

      They even had music from the game in the video, but not the game itself 😔

    • @eniltonrogerio3169
      @eniltonrogerio3169 3 роки тому +1

      @@ReitheOffbeatOtaku come on, we already know skullgirls is s tier

  • @aoife-oh9si
    @aoife-oh9si 3 роки тому

    Jiyuna, keep it in your pant- put your pants- keep your shorts away from the camera. Come on man.

  • @LoLDropzy
    @LoLDropzy 2 роки тому +1

    Imagine putting Street Fighter in B tier

  • @isaacriggs4656
    @isaacriggs4656 2 роки тому

    that one guy doesn't like Mortal Kombat either. Yay.

  • @endy5828
    @endy5828 3 роки тому +1

    This channel is elite bro

  • @espinozajuan8591
    @espinozajuan8591 2 роки тому

    Mr Wong do you have/ can you make a video series on fundamentals?

  • @MommysGoodPuppy
    @MommysGoodPuppy 3 роки тому +1

    man the state of doa makes me sad

  • @sayianin
    @sayianin 9 місяців тому

    Alpha 3 in B tier Justin? You flip flopper u said u loved it :D