Why Are Fighting Games So Gay?

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  • @goIdy
    @goIdy  3 місяці тому +832

    hey gang, i just wanted to say how truly appreciative i am for everyone taking time out of their day to watch my silly little gay video. when i was first making this video my goal was to “hit 100 views within this month”, and i think it’s safe to say that goal was achieved. i can’t promise when my next video will be out, nor what that video will be about, but i can absolutely guarantee you that it’ll have the same level of care, time, and resources put into it. i would greatly appreciate if you stuck around to see what else i have cooking, and if you’re interested in any updates i highly recommend checking out my twitter. once again thanks to everyone for watching and i hope to see you soon !

    • @grittytenacious6004
      @grittytenacious6004 3 місяці тому +3

      haven't even seen any of your videos yet, but you already seem so genuine. definitely sticking around

    • @bladedsweep8303
      @bladedsweep8303 3 місяці тому +5

      My favorite part of the video is learning that I was 20 minutes away from a smash locals. 10/10

    • @NarficAcid
      @NarficAcid 3 місяці тому +2

      First video of yours that I’m seeing due to my echo chambers of fighting game stuff and LGBTQ+ issues coming together in the best way. I have to say it’s an excellently crafted video. Hope to see more. I went to my first local fighting game meet-ups 1-2 months ago and saw many LGBTQ+ people there, which I was glad to see. 😁To me, even as a cis-gender person, it always means that I can be safe in a space when others feel that way too. ❤

    • @CuriuMusic
      @CuriuMusic 2 місяці тому +5

      BRO BLEW UP??!!! Like the song I got a ticket to, WTF IS HAPPENING! Congrats on 47k view Z. From you know who.

    • @goIdy
      @goIdy  2 місяці тому +5

      @@CuriuMusic my goat was the first comment

  • @Feedbackking13
    @Feedbackking13 3 місяці тому +2071

    Three reasons
    1.) Autism
    2.) Anyone can win or join the FGC
    3.) Character designers have more of an opportunity to give the right flair to their creations

    • @captainhydrodus4616
      @captainhydrodus4616 3 місяці тому +7

      LGBT and Austim truly go hand and hand. almost like the Autistic people can't tell they're being taken advantage of.

    • @noirlavender6409
      @noirlavender6409 3 місяці тому

      this seems about right but also you forget it's CURRENT YEAR and in current year they're deleting femboys and replacing them with lgtbetc representation (bridget, testament, vivian) at this rate im sure they'll try making astolfo a transgirl in the next fate/whogivesashit too

    • @Lestat13TheVampire
      @Lestat13TheVampire 3 місяці тому +101

      I think point #1 leads into the concept of 1v1 games vs team games. These people will flourish in solo games better.

    • @Feedbackking13
      @Feedbackking13 3 місяці тому +54

      @@Lestat13TheVampire Also, for older games like Killer Instinct, I really don't see a neurotypical person playing them for that long.

    • @kylespevak6781
      @kylespevak6781 3 місяці тому

      Definitely autism. There's a huge correlation with gender disforia

  • @jynxbc
    @jynxbc 3 місяці тому +3668

    pretty cool to see guilty gear invent gay people

    • @pablobarrios7681
      @pablobarrios7681 2 місяці тому +178

      Shout out to daisuke ishiwatari, he created gays, metal and air dashes and watercolor anime illustrations

    • @Pickletron275
      @Pickletron275 2 місяці тому +88

      Thank you brisket guilty gear for transing my gender 🥹

    • @djdedan
      @djdedan 2 місяці тому +15

      King from Art /King of Fighting enters the chat.

    • @NITTE-MITTEY
      @NITTE-MITTEY 2 місяці тому +35

      @@Pickletron275thank baguette for inventing transitional genderology

    • @Fofenho
      @Fofenho 2 місяці тому +27

      "thank you guilty gear" we all say in unison

  • @thetronker3608
    @thetronker3608 2 місяці тому +246

    No wonder I’m shit at guilty gear, I’m straight :(

    • @IngridVanSchoorl
      @IngridVanSchoorl 2 місяці тому +31

      Street Fighter VI is out there for you then!

    • @moistenedwall1003
      @moistenedwall1003 Місяць тому +32

      my condolences

    • @Sharky_0456
      @Sharky_0456 28 днів тому +6

      i too did not enjoy guilty gear as a boring straight white man

    • @Sharky_0456
      @Sharky_0456 28 днів тому +5

      @@IngridVanSchoorl i didnt like guilty gear and love sf6 and as a cis dude lmao why is this so accurate...

    • @JohnathanGooner
      @JohnathanGooner 23 дні тому +2

      I fw men and women (Femboys are the best though just saying) so now I'm not horrible at guilty gear

  • @anotherdnb
    @anotherdnb 2 місяці тому +933

    Not surprising at all, actually makes a lot of sense. Fighting games have always been about buff oily men.

    • @FHGryphonIRL
      @FHGryphonIRL Місяць тому +38

      Real

    • @dangit69420
      @dangit69420 Місяць тому +34

      makes sense

    • @Chico01232
      @Chico01232 Місяць тому +22

      Great incentive to win

    • @Red_Biker_Dude
      @Red_Biker_Dude Місяць тому +60

      Finding out there's a street fighter character who has oiling up as a mechanic was so fucking funny to me

    • @Chico01232
      @Chico01232 Місяць тому +17

      @@Red_Biker_Dude least oiled up Turkish person

  • @crixis48
    @crixis48 3 місяці тому +500

    "any fighting game event every week"... do you actually have those in your places i feel so jealous

    • @hyper_frog4905
      @hyper_frog4905 2 місяці тому +27

      I live in germany and we have like no fighting game events in my area at all the nerest is in Cologne and its a three hour ride there :(

    • @crixis48
      @crixis48 2 місяці тому +29

      @@hyper_frog4905 Well i live in argentina and you are lucky if you find someone who even play videogames

    • @subekyuuke
      @subekyuuke 2 місяці тому +8

      i live in scotland and i'll be damned if there are any fighting game events here considering there aren't any arcades either

    • @WoomiestWoomy
      @WoomiestWoomy Місяць тому +7

      I live in small town Iowa so I think I’m the only Guilty Gear player for miles

    • @awakened_fjord
      @awakened_fjord Місяць тому +7

      ​@@crixis48no hay torneos ni personas que juegan ningún indie, es re triste osea LPM HAY ALGUIEN QUE JUEGA ALGO??

  • @MelodyNosurname
    @MelodyNosurname 3 місяці тому +537

    THANK YOU FOR THE SHOUTOUT ILY

  • @r.i.petika829
    @r.i.petika829 3 місяці тому +637

    We just love lettuce guacamole bacon tomato sandwiches

    • @bardockvegetable6377
      @bardockvegetable6377 3 місяці тому +88

      Personally I add Queso to it for the full expereince

    • @r.i.petika829
      @r.i.petika829 3 місяці тому +48

      @@bardockvegetable6377 can’t forget the queso

    • @gxf4ever805
      @gxf4ever805 3 місяці тому +8

      Thats kinda based

    • @juniperrodley9843
      @juniperrodley9843 3 місяці тому +9

      @@bardockvegetable6377 The Evil Chipotle

    • @CardboardBones
      @CardboardBones 2 місяці тому +11

      ​@@juniperrodley9843Gay Chipotle >:3

  • @er4din903
    @er4din903 Місяць тому +521

    “Queer people didn’t just spawn in when the light level was low enough” made me lose my shit XD
    Fantastic gag

    • @lancesmith8298
      @lancesmith8298 Місяць тому +15

      Be sure to use your bed every three or so days in Minecraft, or else the enbies are gonna swoop in from the sky to pester you

  • @MistuFiner
    @MistuFiner 3 місяці тому +1016

    8:25 I'm glad my silly shitpost of Johnny microwaving a fork got so much attention but damn what

    • @goIdy
      @goIdy  3 місяці тому +200

      😭😭😭 i got that on my home page when i was starting to make this video and i was like “hm i think this has to go in somewhere”

  • @99jmaster
    @99jmaster 3 місяці тому +337

    "I've played OverWatch and smashed since I was in middle school" that shit makes me feel so old

    • @kR-qj7rw
      @kR-qj7rw 3 місяці тому +6

      Overwatch came out on what 2015-6? It makes sense

    • @99jmaster
      @99jmaster 2 місяці тому +37

      @@kR-qj7rw 2015 was my final year of high school That's why it makes me feel old, same thing happens every time I talk to an adult that was born after 9/11

    • @jamwrightiam
      @jamwrightiam 2 місяці тому +8

      Wait wtf what do you mean that's a middle school memory for people now why what since when

    • @JM-zy4pp
      @JM-zy4pp Місяць тому +3

      Goldy was born in 2004, 20 years ago 😵‍💫

    • @-8h-
      @-8h- Місяць тому +1

      @@kR-qj7rw 2016

  • @regnsloja
    @regnsloja 3 місяці тому +196

    regular esports forgot to hire a character designer for their pro players, they all just look like "esports guy"

    • @jasmineelhilali9152
      @jasmineelhilali9152 2 місяці тому +44

      Lowkey eSports would be way more fun if people dressed up a bit for the occasion, unlike regular sports they could dress so cool because their physicality is irrelevant, it's their perfect chance to create a character other than their true selves

    • @20xdee6
      @20xdee6 Місяць тому +15

      this is why sonicfox is the final boss, love him or hate him, he has the fit

  • @chinogitarista7379
    @chinogitarista7379 Місяць тому +41

    Back in the day, around mid 2000s, when Guilty Gear was still getting popular in my hometown, the best Guilty Gear players were all from the gay community. No holds barred. They were dressed in drag and would own you in the arcade.

    • @caraprism9074
      @caraprism9074 17 днів тому

      @@iwillgosomewhere Me when someone’s story or experience starts getting *a little too* cool or interesting (nothing cool or fun or exciting ever happens, everyone’s life must be as boring as mine)

    • @TakaComics
      @TakaComics 5 днів тому +3

      If you see a femme gay guy pick Lili in Tekken, run the other way cause you're about to get stomped with some expensive high heels.

  • @Amaling
    @Amaling 2 місяці тому +36

    6:48 made me tear up, I'm struggling to think of another environment where that many dudebros would root for and get super hype after a success for their trans girl homie outside of the FGC

  • @rougenarwhal8378
    @rougenarwhal8378 3 місяці тому +60

    13:56 damn now HRT's a performance enhancing drug too, what the fuck cant they do

    • @Sgt-Wolf
      @Sgt-Wolf 23 дні тому +1

      Pay your taxes.

  • @chuaam
    @chuaam 3 місяці тому +397

    If Goldy has 100000000 fans I am one of them. If Goldy has 0 fans I have been killed.

    • @oishicurrypuffus
      @oishicurrypuffus 3 місяці тому +8

      Good

    • @21Handguns
      @21Handguns 3 місяці тому +23

      ​@@oishicurrypuffusPOV: no parents

    • @QenaitheCustodianGuard
      @QenaitheCustodianGuard 3 місяці тому +3

      POV : like and pinbaiting NPC commenter.

    • @chuaam
      @chuaam 3 місяці тому

      @@QenaitheCustodianGuard dude eat a fart

    • @chuaam
      @chuaam 3 місяці тому

      @@QenaitheCustodianGuard dude eat a fart

  • @BLAHBLAH1000shop
    @BLAHBLAH1000shop 3 місяці тому +86

    I got recommended this vid by a socal local group. When I started at my local last year I immediately noticed way more diversity than other videogame events I've been to in the past (I was only familiar with online shooters at the time). I really appreciate you sharing your experience and other icons in the FGC. The welcoming aspect of the community benefits everybody and I experienced that first-hand when moving to a completely new state and fighting through some social anxiety. Makes a lot of sense that the social and self-improvement aspect of these games invites some of the most awesome people to play!

  • @iriszeldaana
    @iriszeldaana 3 місяці тому +146

    cant believe this video wasnt just an umisho clipset smh

  • @neminem233
    @neminem233 2 місяці тому +59

    My theory: to fully experience fighting games, you have to *regularly* go out and meet other people, and when you meet a lot of other people, there's going to be a lot of different people. Same reason there's a larger queer population in Magic the Gathering and DnD than say Star Wars or Marvel.
    These games also basically require some form of self expression and way you play. Even in Magic, two people can run the same deck and have the same hand and draw the same cards, but they can both play completely differently. And that's not even considering what deck you want to play and if you want to build one. DnD is basically self-expression: the game, and we all know how Umisho and Leffen both play Happy Chaos differently. And when a game not only rewards but REQUIRES expression, people who feel the need to express what they've hidden their whole life will express it.

    • @IngridVanSchoorl
      @IngridVanSchoorl 2 місяці тому +2

      You can't say that NOW there is a larger queer population in MtG and D&D than Star Wars or Marvel, that is absolute nonsense.

    • @xavierhouston4650
      @xavierhouston4650 5 днів тому

      HRT moving through the nerd community like how heroin moved through the black community.🤦🏽‍♂️😂

    • @neminem233
      @neminem233 5 днів тому

      @@xavierhouston4650 except it’s good and not government sponsored racism

  • @Jay_Playz2019
    @Jay_Playz2019 Місяць тому +28

    The running joke for smash bros is that we’re all playing for pride, glory, and $11.37.

  • @larrydupp3988
    @larrydupp3988 Місяць тому +30

    This is sorta a negative comment to make, but I think one of the most important parts of this phenomenon is that fighting games are built around people, and not ideas like esports. Esports are pushed to make themselves like real sports, with all the money and advertising and teams, and that means they need INVESTORS, while fighting games have been entirely a community effort. If a person in esports proves too controversial regarding their identity, they likely wouldn't be contracted on. I don't think we'll ever get someone as open as Sonicfox in esports, because the more conservative funds providers would dislike who would be getting this money.

    • @goIdy
      @goIdy  Місяць тому +15

      while it does suck to say, you’re absolutely right. there’s a reason a majority of the gender/sexual minority tournaments (in traditional esports) are completely funded by their communities, and that’s that big companies aren’t willing to invest in that as it’s a big risk for them. it’s also super unpopular to a large majority of these games overseas audience, so in the companies eyes, it’s a lose lose situation a lot of the time.

    • @Shodan130
      @Shodan130 Місяць тому

      Strongly disagree honestly, like if the fgc had a player as open as donk people would be screaming for him to get banned at events especially in the modern fgc. The reason why fgc’s isn’t esports is because the games don’t evolve so much as change entirely. Sf2 and sf6 have nothing in common except for the name. Legacy tekken and nu tekken are entirely different games. Don’t even start on strive and real guilty gear. While in esports like Dota and cs, if you played dota all stars or cs1.6. Odds are if you play Dota 2 or cs2 right now the game isn’t gonna be that much different

    • @larrydupp3988
      @larrydupp3988 Місяць тому +1

      @@Shodan130 I have been looking up this Donk kid for like 30 minutes and I do not understand why people would want to ban him. Is he super omega trans or something I do not understand. Also yeah the differently numbered games are different so of course they'll be different, SF2 came out 30some years ago. Plus this is a comment about the economics of the FGC vs Esports.

    • @Shodan130
      @Shodan130 Місяць тому +1

      @@larrydupp3988 mate Dota and CS also came out near 30 years ago. Like late 90’s. That’s my point the games have changed very little since their inception. While fighting games are constantly changing which is something people don’t look for in a spot. People wouldn’t play football if you could use your hands for 7 years then you had to use a stick for the next 7. And with donk I mean the trash talking. The fgc you can’t even pop off without people trying to get you out.

    • @franktheprank7336
      @franktheprank7336 3 дні тому +1

      ​@@Shodan130You can't seriously compare "trashtalking" to being trans when talking about investors interest. Come on bro...

  • @AlberioOrion
    @AlberioOrion 3 місяці тому +216

    That's not a fighting game I've never heard of, that's Chaos Code, I have it on Steam.
    Wait...
    Crap, I might just be the trans girl in the local scene who's always practicing fighting games that no one's ever heard of and I feel called out by this.

    • @ziwuri
      @ziwuri Місяць тому +11

      your pfp is.. insane

    • @Sir_Bucket
      @Sir_Bucket Місяць тому +1

      ​​@@ziwuri I mean it's on point isn't it?

  • @goIdy
    @goIdy  3 місяці тому +519

    thanks goldy this video saved my 11 year marriage

    • @CuriuMusic
      @CuriuMusic 3 місяці тому +112

      Forgot to change accounts is wild 😭

    • @goIdy
      @goIdy  3 місяці тому +114

      @@CuriuMusic my goat here as always

    • @CuriuMusic
      @CuriuMusic 3 місяці тому +25

      @@goIdy 💯

    • @Aaa-vp6ug
      @Aaa-vp6ug 3 місяці тому +17

      Wow, congrats on saving your marriage!

    • @Shy_Abi
      @Shy_Abi 3 місяці тому +15

      _"Shut up, shut up. Shut up and sit the hell down! And don't ask me for shit, okay?"_
      -Katsuhiro Harada, Director of Tekken

  • @eribrin650
    @eribrin650 3 місяці тому +192

    glad you shouted out the random trans girl in the corner of the venue teaching people kuso games.
    anyways wanna play hinokakera

    • @Dachi40
      @Dachi40 2 місяці тому +11

      Ill take you up on that offer

    • @dominiccasts
      @dominiccasts Місяць тому +2

      Now I'm wondering if the guy who introduced me to Arcana Heart and DFCI is trans. They presented as cis at the time, but the time was also 10 years ago.

  • @RevolverJunkie
    @RevolverJunkie 2 місяці тому +47

    you don't see a video called "Why Are Fighting Games So Gay?" and proceed to scroll by without a second thought.

  • @SuuBrainrot
    @SuuBrainrot 2 місяці тому +50

    It's not even just "gay people" either, it's minority groups in general. Fighting games have a lot more PoC (in fact, usually I see just as much, if not more black people in major tournaments in the West compared to team based esports where I can probably count the number of black players on my hand for LoL or the such) and cis women competing at a high level too
    I honestly can't think of any other explanation than minority groups being attacked for being minorities than them not being seen as much in team games

    • @dominiccasts
      @dominiccasts Місяць тому +5

      From talking to PoC people about it, it's more a question of urban and suburban racial demographics in the US. Because arcades only really work in heavily populated areas, and because of the White Flight, US cities have a much higher proportion of PoC than the suburbs. Therefore, more of them grew up playing in the arcades than white people did, thus a higher proportion of PoC playing fighting games now.
      The inverse seems probably true for other Esports games, since most of those are on PC, which were (and really still are) really bloody expensive, so you'd have seen more people in the wealthier suburbs (i.e. white people, because, again, White Flight) with them than in the cities, thus creating the foundations for self-reinforcing community feedback loops. Doesn't help that a lot of PC gamers are notoriously racist/sexist/etc. as you'd kinda expect from people living in the suburbs, but I don't know how much that part affects things.

  • @pashlyn
    @pashlyn 2 місяці тому +12

    Show this to Grummz and watch the skin melt from his face like the Nazis in Raiders

  • @evilded2
    @evilded2 2 місяці тому +14

    13:28 I can't imagine finding out about cow lady post retirement into realizing that she's an evo champion.

  • @Ghee_Buttersnaps
    @Ghee_Buttersnaps 3 місяці тому +208

    A sub 1k channel about fighting games with structured commentary *AND A MIC THAT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A TIN CAN!!...* a trully astounding experience in this day age 👏👏👏

    • @jayfirson13
      @jayfirson13 3 місяці тому +1

      You won't be disappointed

  • @hardstuck_styx
    @hardstuck_styx Місяць тому +10

    eskay (who you mentioned was the only trans girl in pro overwatch) also conveniently started playing tekken recently and went to evo. such a gay genre

  • @matiaspereyra9392
    @matiaspereyra9392 2 місяці тому +14

    You know turns out that being a dick to someone in person is not easy for us as people
    Also even people who would be a dick to you in person has the social pressure

  • @Gazyumi
    @Gazyumi 2 місяці тому +34

    Your conclusion at the end of the video really spoke to me, I have so much appreciation for the fgc because of the space and community provides. fighting games (for me atleast) are about accepting yourself and improving upon the aspects you feel can be improved upon, and then always being open to helping others get better at their craft no matter their walks of life. I'm not particularly good about putting how I feel about fighting games into words but they're very important to me and many others. This was an awesome video that really reinforced the goodwill I feel for the fgc. :)

  • @IcynezYuki
    @IcynezYuki Місяць тому +62

    Gay people were created to sell more guilty gear, bless Daisuke

  • @eeveepi
    @eeveepi 3 місяці тому +216

    This video may have pushed me further in accepting the fact that I might be trans. Don’t know yet but goated video

    • @bonkloud8182
      @bonkloud8182 2 місяці тому +18

      good luck

    • @crimstrix
      @crimstrix 2 місяці тому +8

      Same here! I hope the best for you!

    • @eeveepi
      @eeveepi 2 місяці тому +4

      @@crimstrix awww you too 🩷

    • @leeleechi6560
      @leeleechi6560 2 місяці тому +3

      ​@@eeveepiso you know yet?

    • @eeveepi
      @eeveepi 2 місяці тому +3

      @@leeleechi6560 nah still on the fence I some fem things I’m fine being referred to as other things don’t quite click

  • @lemone630
    @lemone630 3 місяці тому +48

    "Why are fighting games gay?"
    ExCUSE me you mean to tell me that you thought the game about big, burly, buff men fighting eachother in revealing clothes was STRAIGHT game???

    • @natman2939
      @natman2939 3 місяці тому +14

      Well uh…..yeah 😂.
      I mean jokes aside people have never talked about boxing or mma being gay and that’s shirtless men fighting too.
      When I was growing up, gay entertainment was like fashion show bullshit

    • @franktheprank7336
      @franktheprank7336 3 місяці тому +25

      ​@@natman2939Bruh, did you forget about wrestling? That poor sport has been hit with the "it's gay" stigma since forever.

    • @lukejones7164
      @lukejones7164 3 місяці тому

      Any sport that involves half naked men fighting each other will always be mistaken for gay lol

    • @natman2939
      @natman2939 3 місяці тому +8

      @@franktheprank7336 yeah but that’s wrestling. Everyone knows wrestling is gay 😁

    • @KittSpiken
      @KittSpiken 3 місяці тому

      Yes

  • @ember_falls
    @ember_falls Місяць тому +57

    the hypocrisy, canceling tracer for being British when Bridget is from there too

  • @BridgetGX
    @BridgetGX 3 місяці тому +92

    "You'll almost certainly find a trans girl practicing some fighting game you've never heard of before"
    You literally just described me

    • @thestate6966
      @thestate6966 3 місяці тому +1

      Ooh what fighting game are you playing?

    • @BridgetGX
      @BridgetGX 3 місяці тому +17

      @@thestate6966 when I get into the obscure stuff I've been known to play Arcana Heart, Fight Fever, Alien Challenge, Kizuna Encounter and SVC Chaos.
      Currently I've just been playing a lot of 3rd Strike and Brawlhalla

    • @thestate6966
      @thestate6966 3 місяці тому +2

      @@BridgetGX Ooh nice! I'm gonna go look up some of that obscure stuff, sounds cool!

    • @nevermorefractures3401
      @nevermorefractures3401 3 місяці тому +2

      ​@@BridgetGX i used to play a ton of brawlhalla, that one's real fun!

    • @BridgetGX
      @BridgetGX 3 місяці тому +1

      @@nevermorefractures3401 always good to hear from fellow Brawlhalla enjoyers. Honestly that game deserves more respect

  • @kerricaine
    @kerricaine 2 місяці тому +87

    I was early into my transition when Bridget came out and i wanted to cosplay her so bad, but didn't feel right not having played the game. 3 months later i was going to local tournaments wearing my hoodie and using my homemade bridget themed fight stick lmao

    • @sixty5notch796
      @sixty5notch796 2 місяці тому +2

      BASED🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️

  • @waapi1914
    @waapi1914 3 місяці тому +83

    Good video
    one small issue
    where the heck do you fit an ENTIRE town inside someone

    • @anotherdnb
      @anotherdnb 2 місяці тому +14

      You're telling me Sonic is a FOX now?

    • @saratoga6663
      @saratoga6663 2 місяці тому +12

      She ate it

    • @imgkaizer
      @imgkaizer 2 місяці тому +5

      Don't forget she also has everyone's voice inside her

    • @kitkatbreaker1270
      @kitkatbreaker1270 Місяць тому +1

      Kirby.

    • @jamesfinch6139
      @jamesfinch6139 Місяць тому +10

      Suspiciously town-shaped brisket:

  • @SuzakuX
    @SuzakuX 3 місяці тому +144

    There are honestly so many factors. Fighting games have always been more diverse, also having a disproportionately large black audience compared to other genres. Played internationally, with large rosters of characters designed to have broad appeal. Meritocracy, one on one, with a focus on mutual improvement. And just bonding over shared interest.

    • @theoamos24
      @theoamos24 3 місяці тому +35

      Black audience (me), lgtb audience, Disabled audience (also me).. it's why i love the fgc. The large diversity it has. A mecca of diffrent personalities and lives all for competition.

    • @Qwerty-jy9mj
      @Qwerty-jy9mj 3 місяці тому +6

      None of that has to do with homosexuals though

    • @ColorfulKindred
      @ColorfulKindred 3 місяці тому

      starcraft, age of empires are 1 on 1 too for the most part.

    • @Stankem
      @Stankem 3 місяці тому

      The answer is autism. An extreme amount of Trans/gender diverse people are on the spectrum. Its the reason why they fixate and get so good. Ask SonicFox

    • @kR-qj7rw
      @kR-qj7rw 3 місяці тому +4

      I'm just fruity and like seeing pretty colors on supers

  • @zedc6072
    @zedc6072 3 місяці тому +80

    as far as im concerned all fighting games are gay

  • @RellFGC1
    @RellFGC1 Місяць тому +7

    I just want to say that Eskay is a Tekken player now.
    This was a really good video, and seeing photos I’ve taken pop up was a pleasant surprise.

  • @ethencastillo3514
    @ethencastillo3514 3 місяці тому +22

    WE MAKING IT OUT OF POOLS WITH THIS ONE 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥

  • @brianward5928
    @brianward5928 4 дні тому +1

    "The competitive game I'm most involved in was overwatch" girl the call is coming from inside the house

  • @mrorange8576
    @mrorange8576 3 місяці тому +20

    Gaming is just so much more based when people from totally different backgrounds, cultures, identities etc can sit down and just have fun together

    • @Marssonde1
      @Marssonde1 3 місяці тому +4

      I use based differently

    • @mrorange8576
      @mrorange8576 3 місяці тому +9

      @@Marssonde1 Womp womp.

    • @Chico01232
      @Chico01232 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@Marssonde1cool pfp

    • @Marssonde1
      @Marssonde1 Місяць тому +1

      @@Chico01232 thank you, one of the 3 people that played TEiN

  • @taczpat5610
    @taczpat5610 3 місяці тому +79

    title: Why Are Fighting Games So Gay?
    video: Guilty Gear with Smash sprinkled on top.

    • @Stankem
      @Stankem 3 місяці тому +9

      Real. I feel bad for +R/Xrd fans

    • @Adu767
      @Adu767 3 місяці тому +2

      Also Overwatch, for some reason??

    • @Bareq_99
      @Bareq_99 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@Stankemwhy do u feel bad for +R/xrd fans

    • @Stankem
      @Stankem 3 місяці тому +3

      @@Bareq_99 Because strive/strive fans exist.

    • @Bareq_99
      @Bareq_99 3 місяці тому +11

      @@Stankem they are.. the same fans??
      my strive friends still regulate xrd lol they dont hate eachother

  • @alexaurorus9767
    @alexaurorus9767 12 днів тому +5

    “Why should you care? Because we care.” Is honestly a life lesson many people need to here

  • @jpisg
    @jpisg 3 місяці тому +12

    i was waiting for capcom and 3d fighters to show up but they barely did, the fact that overwatch has more footage than either of those is crazy

  • @pank3245
    @pank3245 3 місяці тому +190

    You forgot to mention that Venom is gay considering this video focuses mostly on Guilty Gear lol

    • @goIdy
      @goIdy  3 місяці тому +75

      yea i do say “there are multiple characters throughout the series”, though i only specifically talk about testament and bridget. should’ve mentioned venom though for sure

    • @pank3245
      @pank3245 3 місяці тому +15

      @@goIdy regardless it was a good video

    • @juniperrodley9843
      @juniperrodley9843 3 місяці тому +6

      @@goIdy good video as the other person said, but ye Venom's definitely notable as a very early and unambiguous example

  • @purplechili2512
    @purplechili2512 Місяць тому +8

    Hey I'm 39 and started playing at 3 or 4 these silly handhelds and I never stopped. I never thought that being afab would pose a problem with my best hobby and here we are. You, the new generation are the fighters now and I'm so living for it. Make everything gay! Wish you luck on your journey I'm just an L, happy with the representation. And remember kids... We've been there forever. We are not a new fad. And as Lafayette said in true blood: tip yo waitress. Much love 💕

  • @Mr7Ren
    @Mr7Ren Місяць тому +5

    Maybe it’s like a Baki thing if you become gay you become great fgc player

  • @dominiccasts
    @dominiccasts Місяць тому +6

    0:30 That description of Traditional Esports hurt my soul as a StarCraft player, but I get it.

  • @Sinetheballwoman
    @Sinetheballwoman 3 місяці тому +12

    This is so refreshing it was hilarious. That saul badguy tgirl rep line killed me
    It feels so amazing to have positive anything about LGBTQ community. This made me very happy thank you

  • @lagspike7763
    @lagspike7763 Місяць тому +2

    “The worst guy you knew … was PISSED about this” so true so true

  • @xdgamesCoUk
    @xdgamesCoUk 3 місяці тому +14

    I wouldn't use the smash community as a representation of the fighting game community. Would have made a lot more sense to use Street Fighter, or Tekken.

    • @lydiawilder5996
      @lydiawilder5996 3 місяці тому +1

      Ehh Street Fighter is a lot more toxic than most other communities, and more queerphobic.

    • @xdgamesCoUk
      @xdgamesCoUk 3 місяці тому +5

      ​@@lydiawilder5996 yes, and it is also by far the most popular fighting game, encompassing vast majority of the fighting game community, and as such is a much better representation of the fighting game community than smash.
      So if you want to say that the street fighter community seems toxic and queerphobic, it goes against the whole premise of this video.

    • @lydiawilder5996
      @lydiawilder5996 3 місяці тому

      @@xdgamesCoUk In comparison, not overall

    • @parkourboio1062
      @parkourboio1062 2 місяці тому +7

      video essays, just like literary essays, reflect personal experiences. centering the video on games that she has more experience with (guilty gear and smash) gives it room to be imbued with a lot more personal significance and knowledge of details
      i know smash and the FGC have a contentious history, but there genuinely is quite a lot in common between them and especially for spectators there's a big shared demographic. i don't think the video would've been as good if she focused on tekken or street fighter

    • @xdgamesCoUk
      @xdgamesCoUk 2 місяці тому +1

      @parkourboio1062 because if there was a focus on Tekken and Street Fighter the whole narrative of the video would have been incorrect, and would call into question the validity of the picture the video is trying to paint 🎨

  • @estongyamot9123
    @estongyamot9123 3 місяці тому +23

    Scarlett from Starcraft 2 is also noteworthy

    • @evilded2
      @evilded2 2 місяці тому +2

      The fact it's noteworthy kinda shows the difference

  • @shaftmastr7753
    @shaftmastr7753 3 місяці тому +66

    to me, a fight is as emotionally intimate as sex, and for a long time men have only ever felt they could express the way they feel about another man through fighting and competition. the very concept of rivalry is very romantic to begin with, and truth be told many fighting game players love their rival. love is an energy which helps you to grow, and growing thru competition is what fighting games are all about

    • @EyesDontCry
      @EyesDontCry 3 місяці тому +41

      "All is gay in love and war"

    • @millyardopeacecraft9778
      @millyardopeacecraft9778 3 місяці тому +8

      This is assertionism

    • @tang620
      @tang620 3 місяці тому +7

      Kiss your anime rival, it's good for both of your competitive growth fr fr

    • @MoroccoKindaCringe
      @MoroccoKindaCringe 3 місяці тому +8

      It's true that in sports like jiujitsu people say they really get to know their opponent through the matches... also it's a fighting style where men grab each other on the ground, so you might really be onto something

    • @DeaconBlu35
      @DeaconBlu35 3 місяці тому +7

      Holy shit
      This is hot

  • @dryearlylth
    @dryearlylth Місяць тому +7

    I know you posted this a while ago. It just came across my feed. There is one person I believe you left out, from the original eSport, Starcraft. Her name is Scarlet, and she has been a top level player for a long time, and she has been very open about her transition and her journey.

  • @punchypup
    @punchypup 3 місяці тому +15

    Wild to see our bracket in the first 3 seconds :3

  • @Krunschy
    @Krunschy Місяць тому +4

    I think another note to the whole point about character selection, is how characters in the fighting game community are uniquely important. Their designs are incredibly deep and without bans or needs for teamcomps, maining a character is simply the way to go.
    In a competitive environment this often leads to people becoming synonymous with characters, placing an outstanding amount of meaning on the them.

  • @iokuu
    @iokuu 3 місяці тому +10

    Just as a little nitpick, Starcraft and RTSs in general are more similar to fighting games in a lot of ways, in the sense that most of the competitive scene is community based, even Starcraft (which also gets the big moeny don't get me wrong), and is primarily 1v1. Team based exists, but it's always as a side event, or in smaller tourneys.
    I mean, the entire reason Age of Empires has made a come back is because a mod team for AoE2 was so consistent and was so good that they were handed the game officially, and now are the actual developers behind AoE's revival, and handle all of the balancing for the games. Unlike fighting games, however, the competitive aspect is not the main appeal for to casual audiences.
    The fact that Starcraft is so popular as a competitive game is great, but it's such a tough space to break into, even more intimidating than FG. But since that's what developers chase, the genre has been basically dormant for more than a decade.
    Also, while not that common in the US, in East Asia and across Europe, there are thriving local RTS scenes located primarily in PC bangs or LAN events. Not to the same extent that FG have, but more prominent than having FPS locals, and I think this largely is a result of the games being 1v1.
    Also, the nature of the genre gives it a slightly impersonal vibe since it's pulled back from the action, and that most of the games have some sort of historical flair or real-world conflict flavor (Starcraft/Warcraft/Age of Mythology excepting) it attracts a certain type of person. Suspiciously specific historical focus, lots of talk about strategic thinking, weird obsession with playing the Faci factions. Same type as the unsavory Warhammer 40k fan who likes the Imperium of man a bit too much.
    None of this to discount your points or anything, but I love RTSs and I wouldn't lump them in with the rest of E-sports. FG and RTSs are the proto esports anyway, having competitive scenes before the rise of corporate sponsorships and what not.

    • @goIdy
      @goIdy  3 місяці тому +3

      Yeah I’ll be fully honest here I’m really not all too familiar with the RTS genre, I just added it to the beginning segment loosely knowing stuff. Thanks for your feedback, that’s really interesting and I’ll definitely have to look into that more!

  • @cpnCarnage666
    @cpnCarnage666 18 днів тому +2

    this same question was asked in regards to higher numbers of black and poc representation and fighting games

  • @tahubob
    @tahubob 3 місяці тому +17

    Great video! It may have been a bit before your time but Scarlett's career in Starcraft II was incredible and worth looking up

    • @goIdy
      @goIdy  3 місяці тому +9

      right i’ve seen several comments talking about scarlett, and it was before my time but you’re totally right i’ll have to give that a look !

  • @aleblasco39
    @aleblasco39 3 місяці тому +12

    In League, there was a NA player by the name of Remilia who went to play on the LCS for a couple of years iirc and she was trans. She played support (like yourself) but she was in one of the worst teams so she didn't stay for long tho. Anyways, I loved the video and the perspective that you use while talking about this.

  • @ryltair
    @ryltair Місяць тому +4

    I never got the hate for SonicFox. The best I could find was that they're toxic, but dude, someone like Punk is much more toxic than Sonic and he's loved by most. Not saying Punk is terrible, but just compared to SonicFox.

  • @nwz6084
    @nwz6084 3 місяці тому +4

    don't forget the gay kisses making out after sets for guilty gear strive

  • @Florassbm
    @Florassbm 3 дні тому +1

    I think you could say "she eventually switched to the real trans girl icon" and name any gg character and i would be like "so true, preach"

  • @kylespevak6781
    @kylespevak6781 3 місяці тому +3

    7:02 We used to have that everywhere before social media killed third places and hanging out was basically criminalized

  • @Florassbm
    @Florassbm 3 дні тому +1

    the last clip reminded me of a screen shot of a discord message that went as followed
    "Let me walk home and hrt then Ill be good to strive"
    "Hrt before strive should be considered doping"

  • @honeysal
    @honeysal 2 місяці тому +5

    Slime mentioned! 1:30 I am now subscribing, I was already interested but then you show me melee and Slime, I’m in 🤣🔥🔥

  • @SamSarracino-r6q
    @SamSarracino-r6q Місяць тому +2

    My feed shows this next to FChamp's "Why is math important in fighting games". It doesn't get much more diverse than this.

  • @shadowpup1276
    @shadowpup1276 Місяць тому +3

    As a pro fortnite player (no this is not my main acc) who sits at about top 100 in the Americas; im the only queer person OR WOMAN that i know who is around this level. I did know one other queer person but he has stopped competing. I am "out" in the friend groups i play in but iwould never post it on my official acc, the response and hate wouldn't be worth it. I recently started playing guilty gear strive as my first fighting game and was shocked by the about of women and queer people competing at the top of the game. It really warmed my heart to know that other games have more representation.

  • @hairlessgrizzly559
    @hairlessgrizzly559 3 дні тому +1

    I suck at fighting games, I always find the controls a little too complicated, but i still find them interesting, and I'm very bisexual, so there's clearly a conspiracy here

  • @MangaMarjan
    @MangaMarjan 2 місяці тому +3

    I think it being grassroots is really helping. TO's, Top players, commentators, they don't care about the "look" of "marketability" of things. Everyone just wants to have fun playing the same game. I think that's why the FGC is also extremely ethnically diverse. But I still think there is a bit of a problem regarding sexism. Trans women are welcomed because they had the same upbringing as most male fighting game players, but women trying to get into the space without being nerds are facing typical "discord behaviour".

  • @thekinginyellowmessiahofha6308
    @thekinginyellowmessiahofha6308 Місяць тому +3

    Smash Bros name explains itself.

  • @ericjackman1143
    @ericjackman1143 3 місяці тому +11

    As Sasha Velour once said, camp is an expression of effort and grandiosity and not based on taste or passability. So many characters in fighting games are campy expressions of gender. Just look at Chun Li in comparison to Zangief as examples. Also, some studies show specifically that gay men have a larger, denser amygdala which results in a social and emotional intelligence closer to that of straight women. I think the combo of those two things and the zeitgeist of toxic team based games results in gays going to single player games. I have to play the team based game of being an openly gay man in the workplace every day where the opinions of others shapes how my team views me; I just want to play games that are solely based on my level of effort and skill and not on my communication and executive decisions because I already get paid to do that 40 hours a week.
    Love this video, thanks for making it ❤

  • @Guy-May-Cry
    @Guy-May-Cry 22 дні тому +2

    I'd just like to say that I've been obsessing over Adachi's theme (A Fool or A Clown specifically form P4A) all day and you playing it at one point made me unreasobaly pop the fuck off at 11:36. The day ended as it started thanks to you using it for 3 seconds.

    • @Guy-May-Cry
      @Guy-May-Cry 22 дні тому +1

      Not time stamp, I mean actual time

  • @ChellyChel2001
    @ChellyChel2001 3 місяці тому +3

    This was an amazing video! As someone who has semi-recently joined the FGC, I was initially nervous that I wasn't going to fit in or receive judgement for being different. When I started going to more regional tournaments I realized that like so many people are part of the LGBT community to the point where I feel like I'm in the majority lmao. It is a very comforting experience knowing that there are people within the community going through the same thing I am, and I am extremely grateful for that. Yes I am a Trans Woman, and yes I do play Guilty Gear Xrd (I main Slayer, I love BEEG damage).

  • @thomasjames5630
    @thomasjames5630 3 місяці тому +7

    nvm you play overwatch

    • @goIdy
      @goIdy  3 місяці тому

      awwww man

  • @catsandraccoons
    @catsandraccoons 3 місяці тому +10

    As a fellow trans gal finally starting to play fighting games this year, thank you so much for making this. I feel so seen and represented and among my own people with the FGC community. It’s such an inspiration to see people like Umisho and Magi reach the heights they have in tournaments, and to see folks like yourself just as enamored with the scene as I am.
    Happy Pride Month Queen 💖🌈

  • @pixeldogrs20
    @pixeldogrs20 3 місяці тому +35

    Im so glad bobby scar's they pronoun made it into the video, truly made this the gayest gay fighting game video 🥺

    • @goIdy
      @goIdy  3 місяці тому +15

      maybe the gays we met were the fighting games along the way

  • @trashlapras8037
    @trashlapras8037 2 місяці тому +3

    was not expecting to get jumpscared by the most homophobic team in overwatch less than a min into the video

  • @callie_yt
    @callie_yt Місяць тому +2

    if this video was uploaded 12 years ago the content within would be much different

  • @wweis6772
    @wweis6772 3 місяці тому +3

    The fact I'm practicing Johnny rn made me audibly wheeze

  • @AlanStryman
    @AlanStryman Місяць тому +7

    once again BloonTD6 proves itself as the peak of gaming

  • @MayaIsAnimating
    @MayaIsAnimating 2 місяці тому +4

    8:48 thank you for the self jumpscare :D

    • @goIdy
      @goIdy  2 місяці тому +1

      no way you’re the person who makes all the bridget animations i see on my TL😭sorry for not including a shoutout on screen, like ive said this was supposed to just be a silly school project. i simply wouldn’t have bridget yippee without you🫡

  • @ItsWolf0
    @ItsWolf0 Місяць тому +2

    POV: Splatoon Gaming

  • @familiarnamemissing3382
    @familiarnamemissing3382 2 місяці тому +4

    Watching this and hearing you talk about how important representation in media is makes me think of one time I came across a video essay talking about how wanting to be represented in media is “narcissistic” or some shit. This was around the time where I think I saw a lot more conservative opinions online and didn’t know enough to know that they were stupid, so I was planning on watching it, but ended up being too lazy to really start it. I’m so glad my fuckin ADHD brain prevented me from watching that because I would hate to have my opinions on representation formed by that video. I enjoy making gay characters to represent others, and although I haven’t really made any finished stories yet, i would love to hear that one of my characters helped an actual person out with their identity.

    • @familiarnamemissing3382
      @familiarnamemissing3382 2 місяці тому +1

      Also it’s really funny how people complain about Bridget being trans as if a boy dressing like a girl isn’t gay somehow

    • @goIdy
      @goIdy  2 місяці тому

      i have gotten SO many comments saying awful things just because i said bridget is a girl, like comeon i just think shes cute it's really not a big deal

    • @familiarnamemissing3382
      @familiarnamemissing3382 2 місяці тому +2

      @@goIdy weebs care all about the artist’s intent until the artist intends for something to be gay
      (Not sure if weeb is quite the right term here but you know what I mean)

    • @MmooshH
      @MmooshH Місяць тому

      @@familiarnamemissing3382 When the established lore for the boy dressing like a girl has him repeatedly correcting anyone who mistakes him for a girl, repeatedly stating that how he dresses doesn't make him any less of a man, and working as a bounty bounter to ultimately disprove a superstition about his existence as a boy being a bad omen, it's only logical that having the newest official lore state that the boy now identifies as a girl is bound to raise some eyebrows.
      This is where complaints about Bridget come from, it has nothing to do with gender or sexual orientation. Venom was created and added to Guilty Gear before Bridget, he's been gay the whole time, everyone knows, no one ever cared. If Bridget was trans from the start, people wouldn't complain either. Character retcons are the problem.

    • @familiarnamemissing3382
      @familiarnamemissing3382 Місяць тому +1

      @@MmooshH you know what? That’s the same reason real trans people bother me, I don’t like how they take time to figure out who they really are.

  • @awildserah
    @awildserah 17 днів тому +1

    My girlfriend got 129th at Granblue @ Evo this year, and has high placements for DBFZ as well. Us transwomen are just, built different.

  • @gabrielbean3478
    @gabrielbean3478 3 місяці тому +23

    The funniest part of Sonicfox is that there's a real chance that if you go to the arcade at a furcon, they go to enough of them there's a nonzero chance you'll accidentally get on a cabinet with them, a nightmare for any casual FG furry lmao

  • @TakaComics
    @TakaComics 5 днів тому +1

    Life long gamer, nonbinary... the FGC has been one of the most welcoming, kind, supportive communities I've ever been a part of. I play Tekken mainly, though on a break because of computer issues (GAAH I NEED A NEW ONE SO BAD), among a variety of other games. I've never seen a community ask for your pronouns, let alone highlight them as proudly as I have here. On top of that, I've never seen a community self police bigotry in the way the FGC has, with even the game creators like Ishiwatari basically telling bigots to get over themselves or play something else. It's amazing how incredible simply being seen and appreciated feels.

  • @hyato64
    @hyato64 3 місяці тому +3

    I remember being young and having a friend that loved Shun from Saint Seiya anime and loving the boy with the white hair (dont remember the name) from Sakura Card Captors... At that time, I didn't know that he was homosexual and he loved those characters bc it represented him. Many years have passed, we are still old friends and I remember never thinking less of him bc he was "weird" like to others kids called him... And I think that representation in those animes mattered so much for me to understand that there are people like him in this world.
    Anyway, today we are in a very weird place related to representation in videogames, moves, series etc...
    Many times the representations seems soo off to me... and IDK why it seems soo artificial and not the same that I've experienced with this friend. But I fear that the this kind of "miss representation" is somehow upsetting people so much more.... and I feel that many times is incentivizing more racism and more prejudice.
    There is any balance to this approach of representation? Why I feel that a new Star Wars character super dull and generic while I love each cast of anime Dungeon Meshi (where almost every single body type, color and minority is represented in there) ? It's really werdy... maybe I don't know what I'm talking about and shouldn't talk about this.
    Idk if I expressed well this feeling... But yeah... sorry if I offended someone...
    I loved ur video! Subscribed :D

  • @tuliofaustino783
    @tuliofaustino783 15 днів тому +1

    I don't really know if I am non binary but I've never felt so represented by a character like Venture, makes me wonder

  • @srslyimnotaspy101
    @srslyimnotaspy101 3 місяці тому +3

    "They're cheating!"
    I knew it

  • @estongyamot9123
    @estongyamot9123 3 місяці тому +6

    i think figthing games is preferred to be played the way it is side by side is due to its roots way back playing it on arcade where both respect and hype is achived whenever a new challenger bravely lines up or puts their token on the arcade cabinet to challenge the current playing champion ... online esports in the other hand hides in their avatar character that most of the time anonimity can change the way people behave than face to face

  • @paIapin
    @paIapin 3 місяці тому +5

    Very good video! I have a funny comparison that really supports your point: the TCG (trading card games) community is a very gay one, I can only speak for Yu-Gi-Oh but the LGBT community is more than welcome and we have an actual trans world championship winner, Jessica Robinson. The existence of local tournaments and other irl events really incentivize the basic human decency that's missing so often in online-only games. Ever since I started playing YuGiOh I've met so many queer friends and found myself to be nonbinary on the way. So now I have many LGBT FGC TCG (trying to get the entire alphabet) friends and they're all so cool.

    • @goIdy
      @goIdy  3 місяці тому +2

      funnily enough you’re not the first person to mention this, that’s so cool ! and really does show that being in person, sharing a space together, makes a huge difference

  • @BlazenMikay
    @BlazenMikay 3 місяці тому +3

    smaller community = more control of whats going on around them. but also team base situations make it harder to connect with others. thats why in regular sports lgbt+ players who play pro usually go closet to avoid controversy and other. FGC is more grass roots so FGC has more of a mental of " we take care of own when we can" kind of attitude.

  • @muniz9046
    @muniz9046 3 місяці тому +7

    yo that controller in the end and the keyboard on your tweet are the goats of this video for me ngl, great video btw, kinda sad those types of events are rare here in The South (the global one)

    • @muniz9046
      @muniz9046 3 місяці тому +1

      one on one combat prolly plays a role on that as well, in traditional sports is very easy for people to get in a us vs them mentality.
      Would be interesting to see if that also happens to chess, considering that i only ever heard of guity gear in trans contexts i feel safe to assume it does not happen, which probably has to do with the fact that is way harder to relate to a tower than it is to a hot person draw by a potencially underpaid japanese artist (guilty gear is japanese right? i just assumed it because of the convulated lore)

  • @kenedic7495
    @kenedic7495 Місяць тому +2

    as a nb person i won't lie, testament was one of the big reasons why i started playing strive haha, cosplaying them is definitely on my bucket list

  • @coooooooooooooooorn
    @coooooooooooooooorn 2 місяці тому +4

    Because gay people kick ass