Why Are Fighting Games So Gay?

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  • @goIdy
    @goIdy  5 місяців тому +992

    hey gang, i just wanted to say how truly appreciative i am for everyone taking time out of their day to watch my silly little gay video. when i was first making this video my goal was to “hit 100 views within this month”, and i think it’s safe to say that goal was achieved. i can’t promise when my next video will be out, nor what that video will be about, but i can absolutely guarantee you that it’ll have the same level of care, time, and resources put into it. i would greatly appreciate if you stuck around to see what else i have cooking, and if you’re interested in any updates i highly recommend checking out my twitter. once again thanks to everyone for watching and i hope to see you soon !

    • @grittytenacious6004
      @grittytenacious6004 5 місяців тому +5

      haven't even seen any of your videos yet, but you already seem so genuine. definitely sticking around

    • @bladedsweep8303
      @bladedsweep8303 5 місяців тому +8

      My favorite part of the video is learning that I was 20 minutes away from a smash locals. 10/10

    • @NarficAcid
      @NarficAcid 5 місяців тому +5

      First video of yours that I’m seeing due to my echo chambers of fighting game stuff and LGBTQ+ issues coming together in the best way. I have to say it’s an excellently crafted video. Hope to see more. I went to my first local fighting game meet-ups 1-2 months ago and saw many LGBTQ+ people there, which I was glad to see. 😁To me, even as a cis-gender person, it always means that I can be safe in a space when others feel that way too. ❤

    • @CuriuMusic
      @CuriuMusic 4 місяці тому +5

      BRO BLEW UP??!!! Like the song I got a ticket to, WTF IS HAPPENING! Congrats on 47k view Z. From you know who.

    • @goIdy
      @goIdy  4 місяці тому +6

      @@CuriuMusic my goat was the first comment

  • @jynxbc
    @jynxbc 5 місяців тому +4687

    pretty cool to see guilty gear invent gay people

    • @pablobarrios7681
      @pablobarrios7681 4 місяці тому +233

      Shout out to daisuke ishiwatari, he created gays, metal and air dashes and watercolor anime illustrations

    • @Pickletron275
      @Pickletron275 4 місяці тому +119

      Thank you brisket guilty gear for transing my gender 🥹

    • @djdedan
      @djdedan 4 місяці тому +17

      King from Art /King of Fighting enters the chat.

    • @JUST4SHYGUY
      @JUST4SHYGUY 4 місяці тому +46

      @@Pickletron275thank baguette for inventing transitional genderology

    • @Fofenho
      @Fofenho 4 місяці тому +38

      "thank you guilty gear" we all say in unison

  • @thetronker3608
    @thetronker3608 4 місяці тому +738

    No wonder I’m shit at guilty gear, I’m straight :(

    • @IngridVanSchoorl
      @IngridVanSchoorl 4 місяці тому +64

      Street Fighter VI is out there for you then!

    • @moistenedwall1003
      @moistenedwall1003 3 місяці тому +69

      my condolences

    • @Sharky_0456
      @Sharky_0456 2 місяці тому +12

      i too did not enjoy guilty gear as a boring straight white man

    • @Sharky_0456
      @Sharky_0456 2 місяці тому +15

      @@IngridVanSchoorl i didnt like guilty gear and love sf6 and as a cis dude lmao why is this so accurate...

    • @JohnathanGooner
      @JohnathanGooner 2 місяці тому +8

      I fw men and women (Femboys are the best though just saying) so now I'm not horrible at guilty gear

  • @Feedbackking13
    @Feedbackking13 5 місяців тому +2639

    Three reasons
    1.) Autism
    2.) Anyone can win or join the FGC
    3.) Character designers have more of an opportunity to give the right flair to their creations

    • @captainhydrodus4616
      @captainhydrodus4616 5 місяців тому +7

      LGBT and Austim truly go hand and hand. almost like the Autistic people can't tell they're being taken advantage of.

    • @noirlavender6409
      @noirlavender6409 5 місяців тому

      this seems about right but also you forget it's CURRENT YEAR and in current year they're deleting femboys and replacing them with lgtbetc representation (bridget, testament, vivian) at this rate im sure they'll try making astolfo a transgirl in the next fate/whogivesashit too

    • @Lestat13TheVampire
      @Lestat13TheVampire 5 місяців тому +125

      I think point #1 leads into the concept of 1v1 games vs team games. These people will flourish in solo games better.

    • @Feedbackking13
      @Feedbackking13 5 місяців тому +63

      @@Lestat13TheVampire Also, for older games like Killer Instinct, I really don't see a neurotypical person playing them for that long.

    • @kylespevak6781
      @kylespevak6781 5 місяців тому

      Definitely autism. There's a huge correlation with gender disforia

  • @MistuFiner
    @MistuFiner 5 місяців тому +1252

    8:25 I'm glad my silly shitpost of Johnny microwaving a fork got so much attention but damn what

    • @goIdy
      @goIdy  5 місяців тому +242

      😭😭😭 i got that on my home page when i was starting to make this video and i was like “hm i think this has to go in somewhere”

  • @anotherdnb
    @anotherdnb 4 місяці тому +1330

    Not surprising at all, actually makes a lot of sense. Fighting games have always been about buff oily men.

    • @FHGryphonIRL
      @FHGryphonIRL 3 місяці тому +53

      Real

    • @dangit69420
      @dangit69420 3 місяці тому +43

      makes sense

    • @Chico01232
      @Chico01232 3 місяці тому +32

      Great incentive to win

    • @Red_Biker_Dude
      @Red_Biker_Dude 3 місяці тому +93

      Finding out there's a street fighter character who has oiling up as a mechanic was so fucking funny to me

    • @Chico01232
      @Chico01232 3 місяці тому +34

      @@Red_Biker_Dude least oiled up Turkish person

  • @r.i.petika829
    @r.i.petika829 5 місяців тому +751

    We just love lettuce guacamole bacon tomato sandwiches

    • @bardockvegetable6377
      @bardockvegetable6377 5 місяців тому +104

      Personally I add Queso to it for the full expereince

    • @r.i.petika829
      @r.i.petika829 5 місяців тому +60

      @@bardockvegetable6377 can’t forget the queso

    • @gxf4ever805
      @gxf4ever805 5 місяців тому +11

      Thats kinda based

    • @juniperrodley9843
      @juniperrodley9843 5 місяців тому +11

      @@bardockvegetable6377 The Evil Chipotle

    • @CardboardBones
      @CardboardBones 4 місяці тому +13

      ​@@juniperrodley9843Gay Chipotle >:3

  • @crixis48
    @crixis48 5 місяців тому +612

    "any fighting game event every week"... do you actually have those in your places i feel so jealous

    • @hyper_frog4905
      @hyper_frog4905 4 місяці тому +35

      I live in germany and we have like no fighting game events in my area at all the nerest is in Cologne and its a three hour ride there :(

    • @crixis48
      @crixis48 4 місяці тому +37

      @@hyper_frog4905 Well i live in argentina and you are lucky if you find someone who even play videogames

    • @subekyuuke
      @subekyuuke 3 місяці тому +9

      i live in scotland and i'll be damned if there are any fighting game events here considering there aren't any arcades either

    • @WoomiestWoomy
      @WoomiestWoomy 3 місяці тому +9

      I live in small town Iowa so I think I’m the only Guilty Gear player for miles

    • @awakened_fjord
      @awakened_fjord 3 місяці тому +8

      ​@@crixis48no hay torneos ni personas que juegan ningún indie, es re triste osea LPM HAY ALGUIEN QUE JUEGA ALGO??

  • @hardstuck_styx
    @hardstuck_styx 3 місяці тому +81

    eskay (who you mentioned was the only trans girl in pro overwatch) also conveniently started playing tekken recently and went to evo. such a gay genre

  • @er4din903
    @er4din903 3 місяці тому +709

    “Queer people didn’t just spawn in when the light level was low enough” made me lose my shit XD
    Fantastic gag

    • @lancesmith8298
      @lancesmith8298 3 місяці тому +36

      Be sure to use your bed every three or so days in Minecraft, or else the enbies are gonna swoop in from the sky to pester you

    • @RadikAlice
      @RadikAlice Місяць тому +2

      That and the Tracer one got me good

  • @99jmaster
    @99jmaster 5 місяців тому +416

    "I've played OverWatch and smashed since I was in middle school" that shit makes me feel so old

    • @kR-qj7rw
      @kR-qj7rw 5 місяців тому +6

      Overwatch came out on what 2015-6? It makes sense

    • @99jmaster
      @99jmaster 4 місяці тому +40

      @@kR-qj7rw 2015 was my final year of high school That's why it makes me feel old, same thing happens every time I talk to an adult that was born after 9/11

    • @jamwrightiam
      @jamwrightiam 4 місяці тому +9

      Wait wtf what do you mean that's a middle school memory for people now why what since when

    • @JM-zy4pp
      @JM-zy4pp 3 місяці тому +6

      Goldy was born in 2004, 20 years ago 😵‍💫

    • @-8h-
      @-8h- 3 місяці тому +1

      @@kR-qj7rw 2016

  • @BLAHBLAH1000shop
    @BLAHBLAH1000shop 5 місяців тому +100

    I got recommended this vid by a socal local group. When I started at my local last year I immediately noticed way more diversity than other videogame events I've been to in the past (I was only familiar with online shooters at the time). I really appreciate you sharing your experience and other icons in the FGC. The welcoming aspect of the community benefits everybody and I experienced that first-hand when moving to a completely new state and fighting through some social anxiety. Makes a lot of sense that the social and self-improvement aspect of these games invites some of the most awesome people to play!

  • @chinogitarista7379
    @chinogitarista7379 3 місяці тому +120

    Back in the day, around mid 2000s, when Guilty Gear was still getting popular in my hometown, the best Guilty Gear players were all from the gay community. No holds barred. They were dressed in drag and would own you in the arcade.

    • @caraprism9074
      @caraprism9074 2 місяці тому +7

      @@iwillgosomewhere Me when someone’s story or experience starts getting *a little too* cool or interesting (nothing cool or fun or exciting ever happens, everyone’s life must be as boring as mine)

    • @TakaComics
      @TakaComics 2 місяці тому +19

      If you see a femme gay guy pick Lili in Tekken, run the other way cause you're about to get stomped with some expensive high heels.

  • @regnsloja
    @regnsloja 5 місяців тому +277

    regular esports forgot to hire a character designer for their pro players, they all just look like "esports guy"

    • @jasmineelhilali9152
      @jasmineelhilali9152 4 місяці тому +66

      Lowkey eSports would be way more fun if people dressed up a bit for the occasion, unlike regular sports they could dress so cool because their physicality is irrelevant, it's their perfect chance to create a character other than their true selves

    • @20xdee6
      @20xdee6 3 місяці тому +29

      this is why sonicfox is the final boss, love him or hate him, he has the fit

    • @inaneinacheve
      @inaneinacheve 14 днів тому

      ​@@jasmineelhilali9152So like in catch ?

  • @Amaling
    @Amaling 3 місяці тому +79

    6:48 made me tear up, I'm struggling to think of another environment where that many dudebros would root for and get super hype after a success for their trans girl homie outside of the FGC

  • @Gazyumi
    @Gazyumi 4 місяці тому +41

    Your conclusion at the end of the video really spoke to me, I have so much appreciation for the fgc because of the space and community provides. fighting games (for me atleast) are about accepting yourself and improving upon the aspects you feel can be improved upon, and then always being open to helping others get better at their craft no matter their walks of life. I'm not particularly good about putting how I feel about fighting games into words but they're very important to me and many others. This was an awesome video that really reinforced the goodwill I feel for the fgc. :)

  • @MelodyNosurname
    @MelodyNosurname 5 місяців тому +632

    THANK YOU FOR THE SHOUTOUT ILY

  • @larrydupp3988
    @larrydupp3988 3 місяці тому +77

    This is sorta a negative comment to make, but I think one of the most important parts of this phenomenon is that fighting games are built around people, and not ideas like esports. Esports are pushed to make themselves like real sports, with all the money and advertising and teams, and that means they need INVESTORS, while fighting games have been entirely a community effort. If a person in esports proves too controversial regarding their identity, they likely wouldn't be contracted on. I don't think we'll ever get someone as open as Sonicfox in esports, because the more conservative funds providers would dislike who would be getting this money.

    • @goIdy
      @goIdy  3 місяці тому +41

      while it does suck to say, you’re absolutely right. there’s a reason a majority of the gender/sexual minority tournaments (in traditional esports) are completely funded by their communities, and that’s that big companies aren’t willing to invest in that as it’s a big risk for them. it’s also super unpopular to a large majority of these games overseas audience, so in the companies eyes, it’s a lose lose situation a lot of the time.

    • @Shodan130
      @Shodan130 3 місяці тому +2

      Strongly disagree honestly, like if the fgc had a player as open as donk people would be screaming for him to get banned at events especially in the modern fgc. The reason why fgc’s isn’t esports is because the games don’t evolve so much as change entirely. Sf2 and sf6 have nothing in common except for the name. Legacy tekken and nu tekken are entirely different games. Don’t even start on strive and real guilty gear. While in esports like Dota and cs, if you played dota all stars or cs1.6. Odds are if you play Dota 2 or cs2 right now the game isn’t gonna be that much different

    • @larrydupp3988
      @larrydupp3988 2 місяці тому +3

      @@Shodan130 I have been looking up this Donk kid for like 30 minutes and I do not understand why people would want to ban him. Is he super omega trans or something I do not understand. Also yeah the differently numbered games are different so of course they'll be different, SF2 came out 30some years ago. Plus this is a comment about the economics of the FGC vs Esports.

    • @Shodan130
      @Shodan130 2 місяці тому +1

      @@larrydupp3988 mate Dota and CS also came out near 30 years ago. Like late 90’s. That’s my point the games have changed very little since their inception. While fighting games are constantly changing which is something people don’t look for in a spot. People wouldn’t play football if you could use your hands for 7 years then you had to use a stick for the next 7. And with donk I mean the trash talking. The fgc you can’t even pop off without people trying to get you out.

    • @franktheprank7336
      @franktheprank7336 2 місяці тому +10

      ​@@Shodan130You can't seriously compare "trashtalking" to being trans when talking about investors interest. Come on bro...

  • @rougenarwhal8378
    @rougenarwhal8378 5 місяців тому +115

    13:56 damn now HRT's a performance enhancing drug too, what the fuck cant they do

    • @FinallyAlone
      @FinallyAlone 2 місяці тому +6

      Pay your taxes.

    • @subwayz_qt5
      @subwayz_qt5 26 днів тому

      ​@@FinallyAloneIt can remove dysphoria, but not TurboTax 😅

  • @ZiaErina
    @ZiaErina Місяць тому +42

    "I just think calling it why are fighting games so gay is funnier"
    This girl gets it.

  • @bradens.3125
    @bradens.3125 5 місяців тому +196

    shoutout to muteace for being both gay but also having rheumatoid arthritis and also purposefully suffering with one of the most hand intensive characters in the game despite the disability

  • @purplechili2512
    @purplechili2512 3 місяці тому +24

    Hey I'm 39 and started playing at 3 or 4 these silly handhelds and I never stopped. I never thought that being afab would pose a problem with my best hobby and here we are. You, the new generation are the fighters now and I'm so living for it. Make everything gay! Wish you luck on your journey I'm just an L, happy with the representation. And remember kids... We've been there forever. We are not a new fad. And as Lafayette said in true blood: tip yo waitress. Much love 💕

  • @matiaspereyra9392
    @matiaspereyra9392 4 місяці тому +33

    You know turns out that being a dick to someone in person is not easy for us as people
    Also even people who would be a dick to you in person has the social pressure

  • @eribrin650
    @eribrin650 5 місяців тому +225

    glad you shouted out the random trans girl in the corner of the venue teaching people kuso games.
    anyways wanna play hinokakera

    • @Dachi40
      @Dachi40 3 місяці тому +11

      Ill take you up on that offer

    • @dominiccasts
      @dominiccasts 3 місяці тому +4

      Now I'm wondering if the guy who introduced me to Arcana Heart and DFCI is trans. They presented as cis at the time, but the time was also 10 years ago.

  • @ordoarc4739
    @ordoarc4739 5 місяців тому +135

    "been playing overwatch since middle school" just call me a fossil why don't ya

    • @FHGryphonIRL
      @FHGryphonIRL 3 місяці тому +4

      I played overwatch when it came out and I was in 5th grade lmao

    • @RipePineapples
      @RipePineapples 2 місяці тому +4

      2019 was half a decade ago.

    • @johncychosz8799
      @johncychosz8799 Місяць тому

      I began to play overwatch and got my nephew to play it with me too but I didn’t know that they supported gay stuff. When I found out I instantly stopped!
      That’s why I don’t and that’s why I don’t think anyone one else should either.

    • @RipePineapples
      @RipePineapples Місяць тому

      @@johncychosz8799 You should also stop going outside, and stop using social media while you're at it, we don't need more people like you that try their best to ruin the lives of others simply because you refuse to understand them.

  • @RevolverJunkie
    @RevolverJunkie 4 місяці тому +71

    you don't see a video called "Why Are Fighting Games So Gay?" and proceed to scroll by without a second thought.

  • @SuuBrainrot
    @SuuBrainrot 4 місяці тому +104

    It's not even just "gay people" either, it's minority groups in general. Fighting games have a lot more PoC (in fact, usually I see just as much, if not more black people in major tournaments in the West compared to team based esports where I can probably count the number of black players on my hand for LoL or the such) and cis women competing at a high level too
    I honestly can't think of any other explanation than minority groups being attacked for being minorities than them not being seen as much in team games

    • @dominiccasts
      @dominiccasts 3 місяці тому +17

      From talking to PoC people about it, it's more a question of urban and suburban racial demographics in the US. Because arcades only really work in heavily populated areas, and because of the White Flight, US cities have a much higher proportion of PoC than the suburbs. Therefore, more of them grew up playing in the arcades than white people did, thus a higher proportion of PoC playing fighting games now.
      The inverse seems probably true for other Esports games, since most of those are on PC, which were (and really still are) really bloody expensive, so you'd have seen more people in the wealthier suburbs (i.e. white people, because, again, White Flight) with them than in the cities, thus creating the foundations for self-reinforcing community feedback loops. Doesn't help that a lot of PC gamers are notoriously racist/sexist/etc. as you'd kinda expect from people living in the suburbs, but I don't know how much that part affects things.

    • @ShouPow
      @ShouPow Місяць тому +5

      ​@@dominiccastsI mean as a "suburban" (in central Jersey suburban isn't exactly the same as suburban in other parts) POC queer myself mine and my family's experience with gaming was linked to home consoles. While a select few cousins liked WrestleMania & winback, the whole family got involved when we played Tekken, smash, mortal kombat, or killer instinct. I think the diversity of characters (or at least non eurocentric nature of them) is what made those fighting games so appealing. You can express yourself through the way they look AND through the move sets you use. Those same cousins I mentioned also only played as Ryu, link, or scorpion while most of the rest of us tried out everyone.. and I stuck with Raiden, katana, or peach 💖
      The urban arcade theory sounds acceptable but the nature of an arcade is existing where people have disposable income, so regardless of locale that income is necessary to participate, unfortunately.
      I do think the larger driving factor is representation/the pursuit of something that's new/not another rehash of our (relatively) boring American reality.
      This is an anecdote but in addition to what I said: a lotta sports averse, honors class type kids exist who are the children of immigrants in suburbs. Video games are an excellent source of cognitive development and imaginary play behavior that fully did not exist in such a way prior. Even with tabletop RPGs you're limited to the mental scope of yourself or your DM. Games authored with a diverse perspective (compared to standard American perceptions) kinda forced the normative masses to accept that WE (anyone non normative, POC, queers, women, disabled folks) exist and can beat your ass. It's subversive in a very cool way, imo.

    • @dominiccasts
      @dominiccasts Місяць тому +4

      @@ShouPow Huh, I never thought of that about what games mean, but that tracks really well. Granted, it would probably also go some way to explaining why video games, and effort put into being really good at video games, is looked down on, though I expect that's mostly because the standard American perspective is that anything that doesn't give you money is a waste of time, even if the disproportionate number of non-normative, especially neurodivergent, people playing them is a factor.

    • @Centrioless
      @Centrioless Місяць тому

      It's mainly because of the 1v1 nature of fighting game. There's less blaming in 1v1 match than in a team match

    • @TehStylishone
      @TehStylishone Місяць тому

      Well there are less of us in the west. If we are around 14.4%, we can't be represented everywhere.
      Sports Games ( Madden, 2K, etc..)
      Fighting Games (Atlanta, Florida, NY/NJ/Cali have strong scenes with PoCs)
      FPS
      Actual Sports to play in college and professional leagues. (Overrepresented)
      Its not about being attacked, its about which game will get you to where you want to go.
      Fighting games don't require you to get to Master Rank to qualify for the biggest tournaments in the world. It helps a lot but the format is pretty open in certain regions.
      We need team based fighting games! Team of 3 needs to be good Daisuke!

  • @AlberioOrion
    @AlberioOrion 5 місяців тому +248

    That's not a fighting game I've never heard of, that's Chaos Code, I have it on Steam.
    Wait...
    Crap, I might just be the trans girl in the local scene who's always practicing fighting games that no one's ever heard of and I feel called out by this.

    • @ziwuri
      @ziwuri 3 місяці тому +13

      your pfp is.. insane

    • @Sir_Bucket
      @Sir_Bucket 3 місяці тому +2

      ​​@@ziwuri I mean it's on point isn't it?

  • @Jay_Playz2019
    @Jay_Playz2019 3 місяці тому +73

    The running joke for smash bros is that we’re all playing for pride, glory, and $11.37.

  • @neminem233
    @neminem233 4 місяці тому +74

    My theory: to fully experience fighting games, you have to *regularly* go out and meet other people, and when you meet a lot of other people, there's going to be a lot of different people. Same reason there's a larger queer population in Magic the Gathering and DnD than say Star Wars or Marvel.
    These games also basically require some form of self expression and way you play. Even in Magic, two people can run the same deck and have the same hand and draw the same cards, but they can both play completely differently. And that's not even considering what deck you want to play and if you want to build one. DnD is basically self-expression: the game, and we all know how Umisho and Leffen both play Happy Chaos differently. And when a game not only rewards but REQUIRES expression, people who feel the need to express what they've hidden their whole life will express it.

    • @IngridVanSchoorl
      @IngridVanSchoorl 4 місяці тому +2

      You can't say that NOW there is a larger queer population in MtG and D&D than Star Wars or Marvel, that is absolute nonsense.

    • @neminem233
      @neminem233 2 місяці тому

      @@xavierhouston4650 except it’s good and not government sponsored racism

  • @pashlyn
    @pashlyn 4 місяці тому +22

    Show this to Grummz and watch the skin melt from his face like the Nazis in Raiders

  • @Florassbm
    @Florassbm 2 місяці тому +10

    the last clip reminded me of a screen shot of a discord message that went as followed
    "Let me walk home and hrt then Ill be good to strive"
    "Hrt before strive should be considered doping"

  • @autismrizzard
    @autismrizzard 3 місяці тому +28

    Brisket has succefully secured trans rights for videogames

  • @VinceOfAllTrades
    @VinceOfAllTrades 5 місяців тому +26

    Great job explaining this! An honorable mention (since you state that you don't follow Street Fighter) is Ricki Ortiz, who was a top player in SF4/5. She was the first openly gay (then) top player I was aware of, and eventually came out as trans.

  • @Ghee_Buttersnaps
    @Ghee_Buttersnaps 5 місяців тому +222

    A sub 1k channel about fighting games with structured commentary *AND A MIC THAT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A TIN CAN!!...* a trully astounding experience in this day age 👏👏👏

    • @jayfirson13
      @jayfirson13 5 місяців тому +1

      You won't be disappointed

  • @tahubob
    @tahubob 5 місяців тому +22

    Great video! It may have been a bit before your time but Scarlett's career in Starcraft II was incredible and worth looking up

    • @goIdy
      @goIdy  5 місяців тому +11

      right i’ve seen several comments talking about scarlett, and it was before my time but you’re totally right i’ll have to give that a look !

  • @PeatBogGuy
    @PeatBogGuy Місяць тому +7

    Came from your comment on Noah Samsen's video, very glad i did! This is a really interesting and well put together video. I'm not very clued in to fgs but I am a proud trans and gay bloke, so maybe i should get into them to piss off the insecure incels. I hope you have a lovely day, my friend

  • @chuaam
    @chuaam 5 місяців тому +420

    If Goldy has 100000000 fans I am one of them. If Goldy has 0 fans I have been killed.

    • @oishicurrypuffus
      @oishicurrypuffus 5 місяців тому +8

      Good

    • @Dhampire1976
      @Dhampire1976 5 місяців тому +27

      ​@@oishicurrypuffusPOV: no parents

    • @QenaitheCustodianGuard
      @QenaitheCustodianGuard 5 місяців тому +4

      POV : like and pinbaiting NPC commenter.

    • @chuaam
      @chuaam 5 місяців тому

      @@QenaitheCustodianGuard dude eat a fart

    • @chuaam
      @chuaam 5 місяців тому

      @@QenaitheCustodianGuard dude eat a fart

  • @iriszeldaana
    @iriszeldaana 5 місяців тому +158

    cant believe this video wasnt just an umisho clipset smh

  • @waapi1914
    @waapi1914 5 місяців тому +97

    Good video
    one small issue
    where the heck do you fit an ENTIRE town inside someone

    • @anotherdnb
      @anotherdnb 4 місяці тому +21

      You're telling me Sonic is a FOX now?

    • @saratoga6663
      @saratoga6663 4 місяці тому +17

      She ate it

    • @imgkaizer
      @imgkaizer 4 місяці тому +9

      Don't forget she also has everyone's voice inside her

    • @kitkatbreaker1270
      @kitkatbreaker1270 3 місяці тому +2

      Kirby.

    • @jamesfinch6139
      @jamesfinch6139 3 місяці тому +16

      Suspiciously town-shaped brisket:

  • @Benito675
    @Benito675 25 днів тому +2

    Someone once asked me if Guilty Gear was like Gay super smash bros, i replied with:
    "Eh, I see it more as bisexual street fighter"

  • @Sinetheballwoman
    @Sinetheballwoman 5 місяців тому +14

    This is so refreshing it was hilarious. That saul badguy tgirl rep line killed me
    It feels so amazing to have positive anything about LGBTQ community. This made me very happy thank you

  • @disaffected_npc
    @disaffected_npc 3 місяці тому +59

    "but queer people didn't just spawn in when the light level was low enough" fucking sent me xD

  • @RellFGC1
    @RellFGC1 3 місяці тому +11

    I just want to say that Eskay is a Tekken player now.
    This was a really good video, and seeing photos I’ve taken pop up was a pleasant surprise.

  • @IcynezYuki
    @IcynezYuki 3 місяці тому +74

    Gay people were created to sell more guilty gear, bless Daisuke

  • @Poshowo_uwu
    @Poshowo_uwu 3 місяці тому +27

    Ngl, the "cowgirl is fine, because in a girl" line always get me so fucking hard, like im crying rn

  • @evilded2
    @evilded2 4 місяці тому +15

    13:28 I can't imagine finding out about cow lady post retirement into realizing that she's an evo champion.

  • @respectfulevil9022
    @respectfulevil9022 4 місяці тому +165

    Guilty gear has ALL the letters, lesbian, gay, british, trans, nonbinary, bisexual

    • @Biouke
      @Biouke 3 місяці тому +24

      I'm very tolerant but, really... The british... The treacherous Albion... A hard sell :p

    • @adenjones1802
      @adenjones1802 Місяць тому

      My religion says its a sin to be british

  • @Kinomi144
    @Kinomi144 3 місяці тому +30

    Guilty gear is so good it invented homosexuality

  • @goIdy
    @goIdy  5 місяців тому +539

    thanks goldy this video saved my 11 year marriage

    • @CuriuMusic
      @CuriuMusic 5 місяців тому +122

      Forgot to change accounts is wild 😭

    • @goIdy
      @goIdy  5 місяців тому +126

      @@CuriuMusic my goat here as always

    • @CuriuMusic
      @CuriuMusic 5 місяців тому +27

      @@goIdy 💯

    • @Aaa-vp6ug
      @Aaa-vp6ug 5 місяців тому +18

      Wow, congrats on saving your marriage!

    • @Shy_Abi
      @Shy_Abi 5 місяців тому +15

      _"Shut up, shut up. Shut up and sit the hell down! And don't ask me for shit, okay?"_
      -Katsuhiro Harada, Director of Tekken

  • @ember_falls
    @ember_falls 3 місяці тому +65

    the hypocrisy, canceling tracer for being British when Bridget is from there too

  • @honeysal
    @honeysal 3 місяці тому +6

    Slime mentioned! 1:30 I am now subscribing, I was already interested but then you show me melee and Slime, I’m in 🤣🔥🔥

  • @kerricaine
    @kerricaine 4 місяці тому +93

    I was early into my transition when Bridget came out and i wanted to cosplay her so bad, but didn't feel right not having played the game. 3 months later i was going to local tournaments wearing my hoodie and using my homemade bridget themed fight stick lmao

    • @sixty5notch796
      @sixty5notch796 3 місяці тому +2

      BASED🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️

  • @Clipzandcatz
    @Clipzandcatz Місяць тому +3

    Thank you for making this video. As of right now I identify as a cis man but I love your videos so much. The way you talk about being yourself and what makes you comfortable is making me cry on my couch right now. I just want to say thank you.

  • @lagspike7763
    @lagspike7763 2 місяці тому +5

    “The worst guy you knew … was PISSED about this” so true so true

  • @eeveepi
    @eeveepi 5 місяців тому +235

    This video may have pushed me further in accepting the fact that I might be trans. Don’t know yet but goated video

    • @bonkloud8182
      @bonkloud8182 4 місяці тому +20

      good luck

    • @crimstrix
      @crimstrix 4 місяці тому +8

      Same here! I hope the best for you!

    • @eeveepi
      @eeveepi 4 місяці тому +4

      @@crimstrix awww you too 🩷

    • @leeleechi6560
      @leeleechi6560 4 місяці тому +3

      ​@@eeveepiso you know yet?

    • @eeveepi
      @eeveepi 4 місяці тому +3

      @@leeleechi6560 nah still on the fence I some fem things I’m fine being referred to as other things don’t quite click

  • @jeramiahsental_2768
    @jeramiahsental_2768 4 місяці тому +4

    I got this randomly recommended to me in my "related" videos on the side bar of something else I was watching, but when I saw the title (and the like/dislike ratio), I was a bit concerned... and then I clicked into your profile and saw your pronouns were they/she and all of a sudden that worry was gone sahdgkljhsdalkg
    but on the topic of the video, it was awesome! really well thought out and put together. the only bits I had really seen before about the FGC was some stuff about Bridget (and some people's overblown reactions about her) and SonicFox, so it was really cool to get more information and more context for all this!
    so yeah anyway, awesome video and I really look forward to seeing what more you have in store! (I've already watched your video about gender bender episodes and loved it too!)

    • @goIdy
      @goIdy  4 місяці тому +7

      because of this video i was posted on 4chan several times and have had waves upon waves of people coming in and mass disliking this version. youtube itself removed quite a few (the ratio used to be closer to 75%) and it really sucks. i’ve had to remove so many comments of people saying awful things, all the while i’m trying to celebrate the diversity of something im passionate about. i’m glad my channel has finally found its audience, and overall all the support on my newest video gives me hope that things are getting better.

    • @jeramiahsental_2768
      @jeramiahsental_2768 4 місяці тому +3

      @@goIdy ahhhh yeah that makes sense, I'm so sorry that you're having to deal with that kind of garbage.
      I'm very glad to have been recommended this and that your new video/your channel as a whole have been getting the recognition they deserve. hopefully things just keep getting better from here!

  • @dryearlylth
    @dryearlylth 3 місяці тому +8

    I know you posted this a while ago. It just came across my feed. There is one person I believe you left out, from the original eSport, Starcraft. Her name is Scarlet, and she has been a top level player for a long time, and she has been very open about her transition and her journey.

  • @aleblasco39
    @aleblasco39 5 місяців тому +13

    In League, there was a NA player by the name of Remilia who went to play on the LCS for a couple of years iirc and she was trans. She played support (like yourself) but she was in one of the worst teams so she didn't stay for long tho. Anyways, I loved the video and the perspective that you use while talking about this.

  • @punchypup
    @punchypup 5 місяців тому +16

    Wild to see our bracket in the first 3 seconds :3

  • @LilacMonarch
    @LilacMonarch Місяць тому +2

    I love the "why are there so many people from this country?? [pride flag]" joke, it never gets old
    also the inverse "what pride flag is that?? [country flag]"

  • @nmckinnon7311
    @nmckinnon7311 4 місяці тому +13

    I know im late to this vid but I think THE most important thing that is looked over for why FGC has so many LGBT players is: expressivity. Team based games, you have a role and you fill it with minimal personal flair/expression. But in fighting games, you pick characters that fit YOU. Some characters are zoners/brawlers/defensive/etc., but the way characters movesets are used can be so varied. Example, if you watch PPMD falco vs Mang0 falco, you can tell exactly who is playing (even w/o nametags) purely from interactions/gameplay. Being a part of the LGBT community is the ultimate showing of personal standing and expression in which fighting games compliments so well

  • @burburr8520
    @burburr8520 5 місяців тому +32

    Being a falco player is so funny. You have your old gods (pc chris, doctor peepee), one true god (buster/kid/goat) and the four horsemen/woman(westballz, ginger, magi, bobby). Every single falco player will pick one of each to draw inspo from and it reflects on their play sooo much and i love it

    • @goIdy
      @goIdy  5 місяців тому +13

      all im saying is, the kid won tipped off after i made this video. coincidence? i think not.

    • @burburr8520
      @burburr8520 5 місяців тому +5

      @@goIdy well post more vids I can't live the past two years again

  • @mrorange8576
    @mrorange8576 5 місяців тому +23

    Gaming is just so much more based when people from totally different backgrounds, cultures, identities etc can sit down and just have fun together

    • @Marssonde1
      @Marssonde1 5 місяців тому +6

      I use based differently

    • @mrorange8576
      @mrorange8576 5 місяців тому +10

      @@Marssonde1 Womp womp.

    • @Chico01232
      @Chico01232 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@Marssonde1cool pfp

    • @Marssonde1
      @Marssonde1 3 місяці тому +1

      @@Chico01232 thank you, one of the 3 people that played TEiN

  • @sl0wM0_
    @sl0wM0_ 4 місяці тому +2

    Damn Goldy the more you slide into my recommendations, the more I love your work ! You got my sub, please continue, your videos are great!

  • @ethencastillo3514
    @ethencastillo3514 5 місяців тому +24

    WE MAKING IT OUT OF POOLS WITH THIS ONE 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥

  • @zedc6072
    @zedc6072 5 місяців тому +82

    as far as im concerned all fighting games are gay

  • @mizubutterfly1958
    @mizubutterfly1958 3 місяці тому +1

    This video just popped up in my recommendation feed today. I initially clicked it because the title was rather funny (got clickbaited so hard) and not expecting much, but it was a very good watch/listen. The topic doesn't really affect me, but it was very nice to see another person's perspective of the situation and understand the importance of it as a whole. A good way to spend 30min of your life

  • @familiarnamemissing3382
    @familiarnamemissing3382 4 місяці тому +6

    Watching this and hearing you talk about how important representation in media is makes me think of one time I came across a video essay talking about how wanting to be represented in media is “narcissistic” or some shit. This was around the time where I think I saw a lot more conservative opinions online and didn’t know enough to know that they were stupid, so I was planning on watching it, but ended up being too lazy to really start it. I’m so glad my fuckin ADHD brain prevented me from watching that because I would hate to have my opinions on representation formed by that video. I enjoy making gay characters to represent others, and although I haven’t really made any finished stories yet, i would love to hear that one of my characters helped an actual person out with their identity.

    • @familiarnamemissing3382
      @familiarnamemissing3382 4 місяці тому +1

      Also it’s really funny how people complain about Bridget being trans as if a boy dressing like a girl isn’t gay somehow

    • @goIdy
      @goIdy  4 місяці тому +1

      i have gotten SO many comments saying awful things just because i said bridget is a girl, like comeon i just think shes cute it's really not a big deal

    • @familiarnamemissing3382
      @familiarnamemissing3382 4 місяці тому +2

      @@goIdy weebs care all about the artist’s intent until the artist intends for something to be gay
      (Not sure if weeb is quite the right term here but you know what I mean)

    • @MmooshH
      @MmooshH 3 місяці тому

      @@familiarnamemissing3382 When the established lore for the boy dressing like a girl has him repeatedly correcting anyone who mistakes him for a girl, repeatedly stating that how he dresses doesn't make him any less of a man, and working as a bounty bounter to ultimately disprove a superstition about his existence as a boy being a bad omen, it's only logical that having the newest official lore state that the boy now identifies as a girl is bound to raise some eyebrows.
      This is where complaints about Bridget come from, it has nothing to do with gender or sexual orientation. Venom was created and added to Guilty Gear before Bridget, he's been gay the whole time, everyone knows, no one ever cared. If Bridget was trans from the start, people wouldn't complain either. Character retcons are the problem.

    • @familiarnamemissing3382
      @familiarnamemissing3382 3 місяці тому +2

      @@MmooshH you know what? That’s the same reason real trans people bother me, I don’t like how they take time to figure out who they really are.

  • @SamSarracino-r6q
    @SamSarracino-r6q 3 місяці тому +4

    My feed shows this next to FChamp's "Why is math important in fighting games". It doesn't get much more diverse than this.

  • @SuzakuX
    @SuzakuX 5 місяців тому +155

    There are honestly so many factors. Fighting games have always been more diverse, also having a disproportionately large black audience compared to other genres. Played internationally, with large rosters of characters designed to have broad appeal. Meritocracy, one on one, with a focus on mutual improvement. And just bonding over shared interest.

    • @theoamos24
      @theoamos24 5 місяців тому +36

      Black audience (me), lgtb audience, Disabled audience (also me).. it's why i love the fgc. The large diversity it has. A mecca of diffrent personalities and lives all for competition.

    • @Qwerty-jy9mj
      @Qwerty-jy9mj 5 місяців тому +6

      None of that has to do with homosexuals though

    • @ColorfulKindred
      @ColorfulKindred 5 місяців тому

      starcraft, age of empires are 1 on 1 too for the most part.

    • @Stankem
      @Stankem 5 місяців тому

      The answer is autism. An extreme amount of Trans/gender diverse people are on the spectrum. Its the reason why they fixate and get so good. Ask SonicFox

    • @kR-qj7rw
      @kR-qj7rw 5 місяців тому +4

      I'm just fruity and like seeing pretty colors on supers

  • @draganoidept
    @draganoidept 4 місяці тому +2

    This is an amazing video. You have my stamp of approval and a new subscriber!

  • @dominiccasts
    @dominiccasts 3 місяці тому +7

    0:30 That description of Traditional Esports hurt my soul as a StarCraft player, but I get it.

  • @awpandamia
    @awpandamia Місяць тому +1

    this was such a heartwarming video, thank you for making this. much love, you are awesome and cool and i love you

  • @shadowpup1276
    @shadowpup1276 3 місяці тому +4

    As a pro fortnite player (no this is not my main acc) who sits at about top 100 in the Americas; im the only queer person OR WOMAN that i know who is around this level. I did know one other queer person but he has stopped competing. I am "out" in the friend groups i play in but iwould never post it on my official acc, the response and hate wouldn't be worth it. I recently started playing guilty gear strive as my first fighting game and was shocked by the about of women and queer people competing at the top of the game. It really warmed my heart to know that other games have more representation.

  • @xdgamesCoUk
    @xdgamesCoUk 5 місяців тому +17

    I wouldn't use the smash community as a representation of the fighting game community. Would have made a lot more sense to use Street Fighter, or Tekken.

    • @lydiawilder5996
      @lydiawilder5996 5 місяців тому +1

      Ehh Street Fighter is a lot more toxic than most other communities, and more queerphobic.

    • @xdgamesCoUk
      @xdgamesCoUk 5 місяців тому +7

      ​@@lydiawilder5996 yes, and it is also by far the most popular fighting game, encompassing vast majority of the fighting game community, and as such is a much better representation of the fighting game community than smash.
      So if you want to say that the street fighter community seems toxic and queerphobic, it goes against the whole premise of this video.

    • @lydiawilder5996
      @lydiawilder5996 5 місяців тому

      @@xdgamesCoUk In comparison, not overall

    • @parkourboio1062
      @parkourboio1062 3 місяці тому +9

      video essays, just like literary essays, reflect personal experiences. centering the video on games that she has more experience with (guilty gear and smash) gives it room to be imbued with a lot more personal significance and knowledge of details
      i know smash and the FGC have a contentious history, but there genuinely is quite a lot in common between them and especially for spectators there's a big shared demographic. i don't think the video would've been as good if she focused on tekken or street fighter

    • @xdgamesCoUk
      @xdgamesCoUk 3 місяці тому +1

      @parkourboio1062 because if there was a focus on Tekken and Street Fighter the whole narrative of the video would have been incorrect, and would call into question the validity of the picture the video is trying to paint 🎨

  • @SSBMagi
    @SSBMagi 11 днів тому +3

    WOW i never saw this video until right now I APPRECIATE THE SHOUT OUTS VERY MUCH AND IM SORRY FOR NOT GETTING BACK TO U I AM GIGA DOGWATER AT RESPONDING TO INQUIRIES
    let me know if u ever do a part 2 and I'll respond this time lmfao

    • @goIdy
      @goIdy  11 днів тому +1

      no worries at all, im just glad you were able to see it 💛

  • @Sin606
    @Sin606 5 місяців тому +4

    This has been an interesting video, thank you for this. Honestly I didn't think it mattered too much when it came to sex or gender, because personally once you enter the arena you leave everything behind, you're no longer man or woman, elder or child, one sexual orientation over another. When it's a competition that's all it is, one v one...unless it's team based.
    That aside I was aware about some of this stuff and it's important for everyone to have some representation, but it should be good, and you did that with this vid. Thanks again.

  • @UmbralWitchZ
    @UmbralWitchZ 3 місяці тому +3

    love this video but also unrelated that sleep dart on the nanod utling genji was amazing lmao i could never

  • @ulawan5
    @ulawan5 4 місяці тому +2

    Kamina icon, instant sub, had to say before watching the rest
    Thank you for the interesting topic!

  • @lnemf
    @lnemf 4 місяці тому +3

    This video helped me in a way, thanks for making it

  • @ChloeCommentss
    @ChloeCommentss 2 місяці тому +2

    I'd just like to say that I've been obsessing over Adachi's theme (A Fool or A Clown specifically form P4A) all day and you playing it at one point made me unreasobaly pop the fuck off at 11:36. The day ended as it started thanks to you using it for 3 seconds.

    • @ChloeCommentss
      @ChloeCommentss 2 місяці тому +1

      Not time stamp, I mean actual time

    • @Koyomix86
      @Koyomix86 Місяць тому

      The moment I heard that I said “ADACHIIIII!”

  • @Krunschy
    @Krunschy 3 місяці тому +4

    I think another note to the whole point about character selection, is how characters in the fighting game community are uniquely important. Their designs are incredibly deep and without bans or needs for teamcomps, maining a character is simply the way to go.
    In a competitive environment this often leads to people becoming synonymous with characters, placing an outstanding amount of meaning on the them.

  • @genpoe5590
    @genpoe5590 3 місяці тому +1

    I already was enjoying this video, but had to smash that subscribe button for a fellow Jayhawk. thanks for repping our university well, gamer

  • @Mr7Ren
    @Mr7Ren 3 місяці тому +6

    Maybe it’s like a Baki thing if you become gay you become great fgc player

  • @mrrvo
    @mrrvo Місяць тому +1

    This video is so inspiring and well made. I’m crying

  • @kylespevak6781
    @kylespevak6781 5 місяців тому +5

    7:02 We used to have that everywhere before social media killed third places and hanging out was basically criminalized

  • @jpisg
    @jpisg 5 місяців тому +13

    i was waiting for capcom and 3d fighters to show up but they barely did, the fact that overwatch has more footage than either of those is crazy

  • @estongyamot9123
    @estongyamot9123 5 місяців тому +6

    i think figthing games is preferred to be played the way it is side by side is due to its roots way back playing it on arcade where both respect and hype is achived whenever a new challenger bravely lines up or puts their token on the arcade cabinet to challenge the current playing champion ... online esports in the other hand hides in their avatar character that most of the time anonimity can change the way people behave than face to face

  • @pank3245
    @pank3245 5 місяців тому +201

    You forgot to mention that Venom is gay considering this video focuses mostly on Guilty Gear lol

    • @goIdy
      @goIdy  5 місяців тому +78

      yea i do say “there are multiple characters throughout the series”, though i only specifically talk about testament and bridget. should’ve mentioned venom though for sure

    • @pank3245
      @pank3245 5 місяців тому +16

      @@goIdy regardless it was a good video

    • @juniperrodley9843
      @juniperrodley9843 5 місяців тому +8

      @@goIdy good video as the other person said, but ye Venom's definitely notable as a very early and unambiguous example

  • @ericjackman1143
    @ericjackman1143 5 місяців тому +12

    As Sasha Velour once said, camp is an expression of effort and grandiosity and not based on taste or passability. So many characters in fighting games are campy expressions of gender. Just look at Chun Li in comparison to Zangief as examples. Also, some studies show specifically that gay men have a larger, denser amygdala which results in a social and emotional intelligence closer to that of straight women. I think the combo of those two things and the zeitgeist of toxic team based games results in gays going to single player games. I have to play the team based game of being an openly gay man in the workplace every day where the opinions of others shapes how my team views me; I just want to play games that are solely based on my level of effort and skill and not on my communication and executive decisions because I already get paid to do that 40 hours a week.
    Love this video, thanks for making it ❤

  • @KingKizerKun
    @KingKizerKun 2 місяці тому +1

    Hey! Just dropping by to say appreciate the vid. I feel I learned a lot from it. I hope you one day change your mind about never playing sf6 tho, it's a lot of fun and the more, the merrier.

  • @ryltair
    @ryltair 3 місяці тому +5

    I never got the hate for SonicFox. The best I could find was that they're toxic, but dude, someone like Punk is much more toxic than Sonic and he's loved by most. Not saying Punk is terrible, but just compared to SonicFox.

  • @Kalamari24
    @Kalamari24 3 місяці тому +1

    thank you so much for this video, that ending speech was beautiful

  • @ChellyChel2001
    @ChellyChel2001 5 місяців тому +3

    This was an amazing video! As someone who has semi-recently joined the FGC, I was initially nervous that I wasn't going to fit in or receive judgement for being different. When I started going to more regional tournaments I realized that like so many people are part of the LGBT community to the point where I feel like I'm in the majority lmao. It is a very comforting experience knowing that there are people within the community going through the same thing I am, and I am extremely grateful for that. Yes I am a Trans Woman, and yes I do play Guilty Gear Xrd (I main Slayer, I love BEEG damage).

  • @SM-sj4dq
    @SM-sj4dq Місяць тому +1

    Mad editing felt like I was watching a 1million subscriber paid editor edited documentary essay

  • @ninjakame1553
    @ninjakame1553 2 місяці тому +4

    So the gist is that people are less hateful in-person and fighting games are an in -person scene, makes sense. I'm always surprised at how people act online, heck I'm surprised people even bother paying enough attention to mock ones identity. I can never tell if someone has the flags set because they are an ally or if they are actually of that group lol

    • @NineSeptims
      @NineSeptims 2 місяці тому

      Most people don't really care irl but if you ever have an argument that rainbow flag and pronoun is a big target I guess.

    • @ceres_lang
      @ceres_lang Місяць тому

      @@NineSeptims As someone who's been assaulted and harassed just for having a trans bracelet on, I disagree

  • @Gamercrew72
    @Gamercrew72 3 місяці тому +1

    I love the research you put in man. Mad respects.
    I’ve noticed a common theme it’s mainly the 2d anime fighters that are the most “gay” but that’s also weird because guilty gear had a shit time of controversy around its scene 😅

  • @meekaboo_
    @meekaboo_ 3 місяці тому +4

    this was a good and cool video. definitely helpful for newer fans to know they're seen and a part of the community, and it's good to know folks like you are looking into this and finding out about how deep it runs. warms the heart and makes me glad you know you're seen as well. continue to improve and grow both in-game and offline.

  • @nico_reinhold
    @nico_reinhold 28 днів тому +1

    I had to keep replaying your sections cuz I kept getting distracted by Magi gameplay