TESTED! Heidenau K60 Scout Dual Sport Adventure Tire
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- Join Kyle from www.ChapMoto.com POV Style as he spends an entire day test riding the "King of Adventure Tires" ... the Heidenau K60 Scout Tire. This is the Go-To tire for MANY Adventure Motorcycle Riders due to its unprecedented longevity when it comes to tire wear. Some get up to 14k miles on the rear tire! Crazy eh? This tire is very impressive. A wolf in sheeps clothing for sure... Check it out here:
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Opinion.... high mileage capability isn’t worth all the crashes I would end up having on this tire!
AMEN!
You mentioned so many negative characteristics during the test but at the end you call it a phenomenal 50/50 tire. The only positive it seems is the longevity which you said might be matched by the Tractionator GPS. But the GPS seems to out perform the K60 in all other tests. Based on this review, I can definitely write the K60 off my list of potential tire choices. Thanks again for a thorough review.
Yes Sir! Longevity, smooth highway ride, the unintentional "run flat" characteristics and ample traction off road do make this tire a phenomenal 50/50 tire. If you know the tires limitations and ride within them, such as riding slow and careful in cold and wet weather and airing down A LOT when heading off-road... This tire is the best value when it comes to price per mile. I did my best to express this in the video as it's kind of a "Yes and No" answer when it comes to the question if is a good 50/50 tire. Thanks for watching! - Kyle Oh, I personally do prefer the Motoz Tractionator GPS tire over the K60 Scout. Wears forever and sticks better. Win. Win.
You say it's a great 50/50 tire, but I heard nothing but complaints in the video about its traction on and off road. I guess by 50/50 you mean 50 percent effective on both types of pavement?
Always "safety first". Too much instability/slippage (wet/cold weather) for me. Thanks for the review.
Yeah, pretty much. But if you want a single tire for a 12k mile trip... was pretty much your only choice until the Motoz Tractionator GPS came to town. -- Kyle & the Chap Moto Team
I rode a couple sets of these. I lost both ends in the rain a few times, never again.
Ha! Ha! I have found the same... I tried to do a good job at articulating that in this video. Thanks for watching! - Kyle
Not sure you know, but Heidenau makes the K60 scout in a cold compound version that works great in the rain and in the cold.. Just released in 2020(I believe).. Best for adventure bikes..
The name of this tyre - compromise - you get a very good performance on road for a 50/50 tyre and a so-so performance off road for a 50/50 tyre. Off road you should throttle steer the bike with this tyre in (lean the bike on the side a little). It lasts a lot - I do well above 10k km on this - the down side though, it "squares off" quite bad if you go mainly on road (feels like a car tyre after 8-9 k km mainly on road). KTM 950, 75 kg, normal riding (commuting & weekend fun). I did soft sand, mud, rocks, dry tarmac, wet tarmac (with care) and made it all possible.
Exactly! Great feedback. A compromise tire that does it all "well." I get 12k miles out of this tire and that is crazy. It works... -- Kyle & the Chap Moto Team
@@chaparralmotorsports a quick workaround for that flat center strip would be to to do regular "cuts" with a cutter to connect those side blocks ;) I'll try that on my next set.
Thank you and your team, Kyle, for all reviews you put out. This one on the K60 resonates with me to a T: I will never wear them again on my 990 due to poor traction in the wet, let alone in mud, too much of a compromise in my opinion. One upside...if you get a flat you can ride them for a long while. How do I know? I rode 20 miles with zero pressure in the rear tire. I had a feeling it was low but never zero.
Thank you the intro telling about this tire not liking cold or wet conditions that well. Living in Pa those are normal conditions here so you saved me time in not having to watch the whole vid to realizethese are not a good fit for me.(I enjoy your vids). Keep up the great work!
Thanks for watching!
good review but I think the conclusion does not fit to what was shown. I was sure you will say "it's a good 80/20 tire but not a 50/50 tire because of the center strip". But not "it's a true 50/50 tire".
I get where you are coming from Markus. IF Aired down to like 13 to 18 psi (which I run regularly) this tire is a beast off road. So Yes... 50% Off Road. Then there is the value per mile IF you are CAUSIOUS regarding cold, wet or painted surfaces. In warm weather this tire rips on the pavement! So.. Yes it's a good 50% on road tire with unmatched mileage. I did my best to discuss the issues.... before giving my wrap up. Thanks for your understanding. -- Kyle & the Chap Moto Team
@@chaparralmotorsports Thx for the explanation. Got it!. Mitas E07 review would be great! Especially in comparison to the K60 Scout. Your tire reviews are awesome!
I have ridden over 12k on these tyres through Russia into Kazakhstan and back from UK. Your comments were spot on considering you crammed your test in over a few days where as mine was over a few months. They do last 12-15 k and perform exactly as you have reported. Best test ever with a very straight forward honest verdict, if you don`t wanna be looking for tyres in some unknown "^*: `stan then I promise these boys will bring you home with tread to spare (and perform better as the centre bar has worn forcing the edges to engage unless on Barny rubble!).
Grip well on warm dry tarmac, careful throttle in the wet. Never let me down for grip and brill for plugging when punctured. Happy days.
Awesome. Thank you very much for the report and testimonial. Ride safe.
Sticking with Shinkos. 705 fall/winter 804,805 spring/summer. I ride 99% pavement that's wet, cold or both 50% of the year. I get 6,000+ out of either rear on my V-strom650, don't know of better tires for my needs or your price. Thanks for ALL these reviews!
Nice feedback! The Shinko's are fan favorites for sure! Thanks for watching! -- Kyle & the Chap Moto Team
Interesting vid. Another aspect of the K60 Scout, rear tire comes without solid center strip on 130/80-17!!! I run K60scout on my XT660ZA for one season, got 10K km out of the rear, and here in Norway there's "always" cold... did not experience any issues with cold weather slippage, but then again I'm a carful rider and the Xt660 does not have all that power to break free.. :-) I think K60 Scout is more suitable for low/medium powered bikes.
I have a KLR650 and the rear is a 130/80 x 17 and the K60 Scout does not have the centre strip down the middle of the tread. Nor does the 130/80 x 18 tyre. It seems if the tyre is 140 or wider, it does.
I'm in Queensland Australia so the cold is not a big issue for me. The wet weather performance of my K60 Scouts are way ahead of the OEM Dunlop TrailWings that came with the bike when it was brand new. In my opinion, the K60 Scouts are more than twice as good as the TrailWings in all conditions. But that does not mean I go twice as fast, you don't get to be 58 years old by being an idiot.
My KLR is my daily ride so I need good grip and wear for the commute and high mileage for the camping/fishing weekends too. I'm in the Brisbane metro area so it can take 2-4 hours, or more, to get to where I want to camp and fish. The tyres work for me but that does not mean I say they will work for you. If you don't like them, don't get them.
Hi Dave, thanks for the great report on the K60s. They aren't real popular tires here in the US. Glad you enjoy them. Thanks for watching. Ride safe.
No tire with that kind of center line is considered a real 50/50 tire. I think even Heidenau does not claim it to be. Many in Germany consider this more a 60/40 , if not 70/30 tire.
It is very popular over here because it lasts so long for "normal" riders.
In the end it is the same like with any compromise: chose it for its strengths, know its limits/weaknesses and act accordingly. Then you will have lots of fun with it. (That´s the same for a 50/50 tire on e.g. wet tarmac.)
Hello, thanks for watching and providing your insight.
I’m only 4.5 minutes into this vid, and it’s already the best tire test I’ve ever viewed. Well done.
Awesome thank you.
You end with a positive tone, but throughout the test you actually made more negative comments. Based on what I saw, I’m not sure I would buy the tire if I was slightly more interested in the offroad 50%. And that probably relates to the rear tire center strip and stiff,rigid, carcass.
Hello, thanks for your insight. Take a look at our ADV tire wrap up. There may be some info there to help you decide on some tires: www.chapmoto.com/blog/motorcycle-gear-guides/adv-motorcycle-tires/
For me its a 70/30 Tire and ok for me. It likes a bit lower tire pressure, maybe 2.0 and 2.4 bars or 29psi and 35psi. Weakness in sand and mud.
Hey thanks for the insight. Ride safe.
Running these on my R1200GS Rallye (2017). Handle well in rain, etc, but just too noisy, vibrating and stiff for me. If I would go on a world trip I probably run them due to long millage and puncture resistance, but for now I am going to install Michelin Anakee Adventure for my mainly road and some gravel trips in Europe. Unfortunately the new Dunlop Trailmax Mission is not available in Europe, cause these look promising as well.
The Anakee Adventure is a great tire!
If there was no other tire available and I had to run the Scout 60 I'd take my tire groover to that center strip.
Thanks for the review Kyle but I'm still set on those Dunlops for my next set.
Good choice. Those Dunlop's are pretty spectacular.
Having ran these tyres/tires for the past several years (they just won't wear out) I totally agree with this review. I finally decided to replace the front after a weekend riding in sandy conditions, it was just too hard to keep the bike tracking straight. I now have a Motoz RallZ with the K60 on the rear and aired down it does bite in enough to tackle some serious hill climbs and sand and I can still hang with sports bikes in the twisties as long as it's not wet but I think I'm going to replace it with something with more grip off road.
Nice feedback! Thanks for watching.
I’ve run TKC80’s for the last 8 years, replaced them about every 4 to 5 thousand miles. I ride a KLR and ride dirt in upstate New York as well as 70% road. I’m tying up the scout 60, I honestly am hoping for the mileage increase but afraid the off road Will be disappointment? Will see
Hello, while you should get much better mileage out of the Heidenau K60, offroad-wise they didn't fare too well in our testing. If you haven't already, take a look at our ADV testing results: www.chapmoto.com/blog/motorcycle-gear-guides/adv-motorcycle-tires/
@@chaparralmotorsports the TKC 80’s have been great other than the short life on the rear tire. When I honestly look good at where I can ride the fact is most miles are on the pavement so I’m going to give the scouts a try and try to avoid having to buy a rear tire every season. I got back into riding a Mountain bike so most of my dirt time will be on that, I can always go back to a more 80/20, any suggestions other than the continentals??
I love your tire tests! Definitely helped me decide on my tires!
Happy to be of service! We hope you choose us when it is time to purchase. We do have some of the best prices out there! Thanks for watching. -- Kyle & the Chap Moto Team
Same thing happening to me even if I say no when I going to fall it doesn’t change anything 😂😅 😊
hahaha. Happens to the best of us.
as you said yourself, this tyre needs to be aired down, its a tyre thats not set and forget like you can get away with on a more block pattern tyre
Yup. Thanks for watching.
"V" shaped tires are the worst for self-steer even on a fatbike.
I order that tire for my drz 400sm 150/70 17" to replace my tkc80 that just melt in 1000km only 1/4of the threads left💁♂️. Before the tkc I was on 100%Street tire, off road was sketchy sometime 😅.
Thanks for watching and commenting.
Yes, the Heidenau K60 took me 24.000km and I could have gone a but more if I had to but: I didn't like the poor grip in mud or sand. On gravel I liked the drifting of the rear tire as it does grip nicely once you lean the bike over. That was a fun something to play with. The real bummer was the bouncing from one hard rock to another due to the hard sidewalls and stiff compound....easy to lose control in a hurry if you are not focused. Now it's time for something different. Thanks, great review and video. It shows it nicely.
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Some people really like the Heidenau, others don't. Just depends on what your ride, the conditions, and your riding style. Thanks for watching.
Thanks for your amazing videos. Looking for those tires or the dunlop mission for my vstrom1000 for long road trips, on and off road, we will be 2 on the bike and a lot of weight, would you go for this tires ?
Glad to help! We would suggest the Dunlop Mission. Thanks for watching.
Pity I hadn't seen this review before I bought these tyres which are now a garage ornament. If you ride only on warm, dry roads and a bit of gravel, they are actually pretty good. First bit of damp English tarmac and the tyres were sliding and spinning up on my 2016 67bhp 701. A truly terrifying tyre in the wet. A tyre for Andalusia not the UK, Ireland or Northern Europe.
Fair enough! What did you go with instead? Thanks for watching.
@@chaparralmotorsports Michelin Anakee Wilds until I had to mount the bastard things. Now Motoz Rallz which I'm really pleased with. The Wild is a good tyre, but horrible to mount.
Heidenau K60 Scout or Pirelli Scorpion Rally STR ?? For my KTM 1290 SAR.
Or even the MotoZ Tractionator GPS? So many choices!
We really like the Motoz Tractionator GPS. Thanks for watching.
@@chaparralmotorsports just ordered a new set of the tractionator gps from you guys.
lol, love the local news station level of production value
ok.
I remember you said in another video the Motoz Tractionator GPS was better than this Heidenau K60 Scout. Thank you for your review anyway because you speak about the downsides too.
Didier Plouhinec Agreed, the GPS had a better review with similar longevity without all the negatives of the K60. I have never had a grip issue in the cold or wet with my GPS tyres.
@@FrancoisPeens I agree too, after testing the K60 in cold and wet conditions, the only way to convince me to choose K60 over the GPS, is to place a gun to my head.
I think, the Motoz Tractionator GPS is a better tyre in every way, maybe except from the price.
But feeling safe on your bike really has no price
Olav Kant Well here in OZ there is a $4 difference between these 2 tyres, so pretty much a no brainer.
Yes Sir! Just giving feedback and perspective on my personal experiences on these tires. No smoke and mirrors, just a slew of cameras catching the truth. Thanks for watching! - Kyle
Way, way too hard, rather have grip and change more often. Super slippery on wet roads, totally useless in the mud. Never again.
Hi Andreas, yeah the Heidenau's didn't fare too well in our overall tests. The only test they excelled in were mileage--which is a result of the harness you mentioned. Thanks for watching.