Earnie Shavers talks with Larry Holmes
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- Опубліковано 20 лис 2009
- This is a package Ryan Kelly produced, directed and edited when Earnie Shavers came in as a guest on "What The Heck Were They Thinking?" With Larry Holmes. Ryan Kelly, producer and director of "What the Heck Were They Thinking" put this together for Lehigh Valley Sports Scene. Studio Camera operator was Brad Wernett and Audio production was done by Duane Long.
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You notice about the guys from the 70s that they all seem to be very down to earth and humble, just gentlemen.
+BruceT ..RESPECT!
+BruceT Yes, even a guy like Foreman (who was known as a tough dude) was humble to people and respectful. Heck, George even starred on an episode of Sanford and Son back in 1977. He had a great sense of humor.
Eugene McGirt Absolutely. The big man was my favourite on a personal level. When Ali was just being himself, he too was very humble and respectful, as was Joe.
+BruceT ... Yep. Class act(s)... the both of them.
I'm from the 70s and that's how we were/are. We don't fit in with the lack classlessness that is so common today.
Holmes IMO is one of the most underrated champions of all time. How he got up and survived to win from that right hand is simply "godly" . Next to Ali Larry had the best overall skills of any fighter in history
Except for Mike Tyson.
You meant the best boxing skills of a heavy weight in history next to Ali.
Jerel Kenworthy he was well past it when Mike Tyson fought him I hate the double standards with Tyson fans. People say Tyson was beaten by Holyfield and the excuse always Tyson wasn’t the same after jail and the death of Cus D’Amato. Yet you all think Tyson beat the real Larry Holmes.
larry learned from Ali
@@jerelkenworthy3368 he fought old fat holmes
Had the distinct pleasure of meeting Earnie Shavers a few years ago. One of the major thrills of my life. A gentleman and a legendary fighter. The highest knockout percentage in boxing history. Larry Holmes in the top ten of all time. Two legends.
To get up off the canvas from that punch tells me all I need to know about Larry Holmes. He was a legend.
Larry said he didn't honestly feel himself get off, he said he was hit so hard he got knocked out but hitting the floor made him just wake up and bounce back.
I have no idea how Larry got up from that punch from Eearnie... he was leaning into it too, he was gone! Superhuman recovery.
I think that shows Larry's greatness
Larry is one of the best ever, only beaten at the twilight of his career.
I mean no disrespect but Larry had big wins against opponents who were past their prime. Larry could not have beaten prime Ali or prime shavers. Larry peaked after the golden era of boxing. When Larry was past his prime Tyson made minced meat of him. He could not give a good fight like his aged opponents gave him in his prime.
@@edwinanum4555 i think larry would beat Ali any time
The only time Larry will beat ali was when they met. Larry in his prime would not even make the headlines against Frazier or Ken Norton let alone against Foreman or Liston.
Larry was good but unfortunately he emerged between two golden generations. In the era of Larry there really wasn't any boxer worth the history books
How good was Larry? Well he took prime Holyfield 12 hard rds well into his 40’s. Could you imagine Prime Holmes??
@@edwinanum4555 both Holmes and foreman are the same age....
Shavers nowadays looks to have all the quiet poise and serenity of a wise old monk, like you could imagine him somehow summoning that insane punching power out of the ether whenever he needs it! ;*O
oh believe me - to this day the man could still knockout an elephant, You don't lose power like that, Punchers like him come around once every 100 years.
***** Correct.
STEJTHEGREATEST ahahahhaha
@@unbornbum my moneys on the elephant 😉
ernie shavers is in great shape compared to the other guys of his time
i met ernie shavers ibn vegas 2 years ago and we sat and talked for an hour about boxing and the fight game altogether the man is a true icon
Great interview. Holmes was such a great champion. Shavers was one of the best guys to never win a title. If he were fighting today he'd smoke out the entire HW division.
He had to get opponents out Early and that might not be Easy against Fury or Usyk, as for Wilder it would be a case of who landed first v Shavers.
@@kevinmunday6263You're ridiculous. Shavers fury or others would have destroyed them all, including wilder.
these 2 Man better than whole heavyweight nowdays
This is one of the best interviews I've ever seen. Earnie Shavers is really a freaking legend.
I never knew Tyson avoided him. Damn.
And Larry Holmes, man. He's one of the greatest Heavyweights of all time...
i always love watching boxers in interviews when they are not fighting, you see how humble and nice they really are. Good interview
exactly right, i came over to the US from Australia and earnie happened to be doing a signing at one of the memorabilia stores in vegas, such a down to earth guy, takes time out to chat to his fans!
Larry Holmes reminds me of Ezzard Charles....two of the most underrated heavyweight champions in history.
Larry's huge. He was definitely one of my favorites growing up.
Vitali Klitschko doesn't have a glass jaw. The guys never been down once in his whole career.
I think he means wlad
agt155 He's garbage.
Eugene McGirt Garbage II
Corrie Sanders knocked down both Vitali and Wlad. He knocked Vitali down once and Wlad down 4 times.
Badr Hari Sanders Corrie Sanders (RIP) never dropped Vitali but he did stagger him.
Larry needs to buy a George Foreman grill!
Holmes is a monster, so much fun to watch, never boring.
I never like Holmes while he was fighting. I thought he was arrogant and maybe even jealous of Muhammad Ali. But has as his career went along I gained much respect for him. Really rooted for him against Ray Mercer. I rate him top 3 heavyweight champs of all time.
Back in the day we had some REAL MEN up in that Heavyweight Division.
Hell, the 2nd level guys were Quarry, Shavers, Lyle, Chuvalo, Patterson, Ellis,
Jimmy Young, Gerry Cooney.
The 3rd level guys were Bonavena, Joe Bugner, Evangelista, Bob Foster.
You had a long road to the top.
No cakewalks there.
You are one of the enlightened few. I wish more boxing 'fans' appreciated the bravery and humility of true champions.
The two are the coolest. Very insightful. Well spoken. Humble.
Love both these fighters. Holmes has always been one of my all time favorites. Wish this was a longer interview without the rush job. btw the longer rounds back then made a boxing match a totally different spectacle to watch.
Love it ,thanks lostwalletMP , 2 great fights they had ! Holmes my Champ!
Great fighters the both of them.
The Acorn was an absolutely murderous puncher. 68 ko's in his 74 wins. Just WOW!!
But Larry is my favorite all time. Terrific all around boxer with a piston like jab, great right hand, great chin, determination and conditioning. Just a pity that he maybe didn't really get the respect and the type of acknowledgment that he should have. That's mostly due to the giant shadow cast by Ali.
it is great to see 2 Boxing Veterans without Brain Damage....makes me love the sport of Boxing even more!
I love these guys!
im lucky enough to live just 5 minutes away from ernie in moreton,wirral.... and the first time i met ernie was in moreton town center were i said "hi ernie" in which he shook my hand and my wifes hand and we spoke for 10 minutes... i mentioned i boxed in the british army... and ernie then went home and returned with a signed photo and video( puncher of the century )
ernie is the nicest guy you can ever meet... and a credit to the world of boxing..... a true gent and champion !
Boy whoever this Mike man is got a real professional voice. That's cultivated.
Great upload...i came around in the 1980's so Shavers was after me but what a modest and quietly spoken man...
Excellent interview but I had a hard time hearing what Shavers was saying with the ongoing background music.
Wow Larry said that he didn't want to fight him but he had to I wish all fighters had that "Just do it" mentality.
@jeryd2003 1)That's true. Holmes said he always thought he could beat Ali because he sparred with him and later on got to where he could handle Ali in sparring. But that was in the early 70s when he started sparring with him and by the mid 70s when Holmes' own career was on the rise, no wonder he was hanging with Ali then. Buit you never hear the guys from the 70s that had tough fights with Ali acknowledge how incredible his speed and reflexes were when he was in his prime.
Boy, I never knew Earnie was the 1st choice for Clubber in Rocky 3. Sly must have been in so much pain after getting hit like that. I'm just glad Mr. T got the part, as he was superb.
I rate larry holmes high..he has a strong will to win and a very good boxer and ernie shavers a very hard puncher but I DONT THINK THEY FOUGHT MUHAMMAD ALI AT HIS BEST THO...larry was not at his best when he fought michael spinks or mike tyson
I've always felt that there were many fights that holmes could have lost, if it wasn't for his strong will. He really has something special inside!!!
david banner Yes, Dr. Banner.
two great fighters!!!!!
At 3:03, Shavers had that same look Apollo Creed had on his face when Rocky got up at the end of round 14 in their first fight! ;*O
very nice
Shavers needs to realise that he fought Ali in his decline in 1977. Ali's jab was well better years before.
Shavers was old aswell tho? 2 year gap not too big.
@@Boxeo250 Shavers was a puncher! Punchers can go longer than boxers who depend on timing and speed! That’s why Foreman came back in his 40s. Ali was also starting to show signs of Parkinson’s around 1977 and Ali still beat him relatively easily. Ali was a different bread of man.
@@Smithy07sham far from easy. That’s all I will say. But definitely both in prime. Ali would dance around and then bam flurry of punches then knock shavers out probably. But gotta admit shavers is a real tough fighter.
Legends and still so cute they are.
he might not be in your top 5hw list, but he's in a lot of peoples top 5, a lot of people with lightyears of boxing knowledge. He certainly is in my top 5hw list
Power and Beautiful at the same time!
Earnie looks like at that age could still pack a punch
hahaha earnie hit so hard that he got cut from a movie role?!?! damn!
but seriously, much respect to both boxers.
Hey Brian, I met ernie at an event that Gerry Cooney held for him in Penn. Like you said, he was one of the nicest people I ever met. Super sweet and shook his hand...was the biggest fists I've ever seen...shoulders like a cigarette machine and he was jus as solid.. cool dude. Also, same night I met Randy "tex" Cobb. He also was a really nice guy. Was happy go lucky with a great sense of humor. It was a great night for boxing fans
@lostwalletMP Couldnt find the video on your channel, could you tell me how Holmes compared them? Great interview by the way.
Very nice! Always good to hear from the greats, but the music in the background is driving me insane, note of advice, turn it down or turn it off :P
The 70's and 90's were very tough eras in heavyweight boxing but I tend to think that all things are relative. I think the K brothers would have been very good contenders in any era. All-time greats? Not sure but they are unusually skilled for their size and that would make them very difficult.
Chris Acosta I don't think the Klitchko's would be any more than a Jerry Quarry. Not even George Chuvalo because Chuvalo was durable and could take a lot of punches. I don't view the Klitchko's as durable.
The klitchkos are good for there time but the would not have bein champs in the 70s. Names yes but alot of tough fights for them back then. That fact that neither can fight on the inside and are one paced one dymentional fighters would be exposed in the 70s no question. There great for there time but I believe that its only cause they fought in this era they are that.
Chris Acosta the 90's wasn't a tough era it was just a competitive one
Both truly good men and gracious to all as far as I know. This was the best era in boxing IMO! Loved Earnie but he started boxing later in life and seems to me didn’t develop the boxing skills many others had.
Larry was an absolute champion, 12 years if I remember .....
Ernie Shavers was BAD ASS. Even Ali struggled against Big Ernie !!!!!
Unbelievable tough men
Golovkin is a throwback to the old school fighters
I'm mentality yes in skill no
LOL @ Larry's super high and tight box fade!!!
@BillClausen , yeah thats my fault, the music was a bad choice. It was part of our library. Glad you liked the interview though
R.I.P mr. Earnie Shaver
@lostwalletMP from when is this interview exactly??
really wanna know
surprise to hear sheaver talking fluently, with all those blows he recived during his fights.
Ernie Shavers a very dangerous contender for any champion to face. Title would be at high risk. Ernie Shavers all business
Larry really proved what a champion he was; getting off the deck from that right hand and going on to beat Shavers.
Holy shit Holmes has let things drop a bit. looks like `The Nutty Professor`. Shavers on the other hand looks in good shape.
I agree with what Larry says about boxing today. Guys like Ali, Foreman, Frazier, Norton, Lyle, Holmes and Shavers fought with heart and they fought to win, always pressing the action, never giving up. No one fights like that today. Today's fighters are risk averse, they take no chances. They fight not to lose.
Any fighter I listed above would completely clean out the HW division today.
At 6ft and 210, one of hardest bouncers ever.
The star of this video is the hosts' fabulously dyed hair!!!
Earnie Shavers was the man...all the baloney people say Earnie Shavers was the real deal....people talk about ducking No one I mean no one wanted to fight Earnie Shavers...not Mike Tyson no one. Earnie Shavers was the real deal.
WattUNeed Earnie was already in a retirement home when Tyson was fighting lol
Eugene McGirt Actually he wasn't.
WattUNeed Earnie's last glorious moment was 1979 versus Norton and knocking down Holmes. After that it was basically retirement for the Acorn.
Eugene McGirt You said he was in retirement......you were wrong....Tyson could have fought him. He was active up to 1995.....it is what it is.
WattUNeed Earnie was in retirement during the years 1988-1994 then returned for 2 fights in 1995 at age 50. I know Earnie can punch for life but not sure Mike was ducking a 50 year old Shavers. I think it more likely that Tyson (or his people) were trying to avoid George Foreman between 1987-1990. Earnie was retired during those years.
Ali was asked 'What did you think when you were down when Frazier sent you skidding on your ass in that last round' Ali replied.
'Get up"
@ah93704 You have to understand that Larry was 36 year old, 2 years retired when he fought MIke. He fought Shavers at the very peak of his powers at 26 years old. Holmes was in supreme shape, and able to recover.
He was 38, but yeah.
Wish Earnie had a better career. Awesome puncher.
Klitschko learned how use his.body very technically. It is amazing what a student of the game Wvladimir has become
Tyson avoided Foreman and Shavers like the plague.
What's the music called? It's SOO boxing man ;)
It’s sad what’s happened to boxing, especially the heavyweight scene .😔
@lostwalletMP Did you get the chance to ask him yet?
lol, the interviewer had to look at the title of the movie before he finished.
It is hard to build a definite top 5, you always have Ali, Marciano, Holmes, Tyson, Foreman, Frazier, Louis, Shavers, etc etc being mentioned. I cannot fathom how a person can have a consistent top 5 of all time.
What a punch
@MultiGreat1 yes, but who made Larry stay down for the 10 count?
Ali's jab was a flick by the time he fought Shavers. When he fought the men you mentioned, it was a hammer.
Earnie Shavers looks as wide as he is tall, no wonder he could generate that power! He'll always be able to say he fought 2 real greats in Ali and Holmes giving them tough bouts.
Two warriors…
Ernie looks like he could still dance .
Holmes!!
The man is right!
RIP Earnie Shavers
One of the best HW to never win the title.
@lostwalletMP I would love to see that one as well, please when you upload it, reply to me here with the link! and thanks :)
Come to think of it, Foreman and Frazier never fought Shavers,
and they were all in the mix at the same time.
larry holmes is huge!|!!!
Music Name?
The audio production seems pretty poor. When you can't hear them because maybe the microphone mix isn't up enough, it's not accounted for.
I have so much respect for these Legends ! To many, Earnie Shavers was just to much of a puncher. NOBODY WANTED TO FIGHT HIM !!! Though he had endurance problems, had he had a Great coach he would have been UNBEATABLE.
@ah93704 true . I believe Tyson was more effective as a puncher (sharper snapper punches as opposed to heaviness). Even Holmes said Tyson had a very good jab. Shavers was just a very heavy puncher. I will always pick effectiveness (snap, explosiveness, timing combination) over heaviness - why you think Tyson instilled fear like no one else. You can not deal with something you can not see.
Golden era of boxing 70s 80s
What a fight .. Holmes va Shaervers ....♥️♥️
@torchkit Amen to that! Why is it that sports videos have to have "music" (just a bunch of computerized noise) in the background? What makes it even more annoying is that this was a good interview. I wish that when they put these videos together they would can the techn-pop.
Larry holmes was à beast
loved to have met Earnie....does he still live on the wirral
@TA152H01 of course you can, and Foreman had the greater power. When he retired the first time he was probably higher up the ko percentage than Shavers. Shavers had a hard time with very limited opposition. He struggled with guys that Foreman would have walked right through. I've been around the fight game since I was a little kid bro. I know what I"m talking about. Foreman was a better overall fighter and thus a better puncher!
@MultiGreat1 Ive heard him talk about it. He said "Shavers was the hardest puncher he ever faced, including Tyson."
There are also stories of him telling Dolph Lundgren (who played Ivan Drago) to punch him as hard as he could and being knocked unconscious as a result.
What’s with the background music? Too loud and not necessary.