Before Valve dropped their strong TF2 support, it really felt like Cactus Canyon and Asteroid were being set up early to play the part of the Big Finale maps that tie in with the TF2 Comics - with Asteroid being tied into the rocket that escaped Earth with all the Australium. Part of me hopes that one day they might retool Asteroid to actually be that map.
I encountered several people on an Uncletopia server once who had never even seen or heard of plr_nightfall before and didn't know that it was an official map, and they were acting all confused and perplexed by the map's existence. It made me feel old.
Yeah. A leszer UA-camr wouldn’t timestamp his stuff, but with timestamps I’m more willing to give a video my time since I know whether I’ll be interested in the topics discussed
I just nominated Hydro on a London Uncletopia server and got enough people to actually vote for it. At first some people wanted to rtv once the map was on, but we actually played it to the end. It all looked like it will end it a stalement, but in the ende it ended with a win for my team. I had an absolute blast and was glad people didn't abandon the server when the map came on. Playing old and forgotten maps successfully really warms my heart.
I love Hydro to death honestly. Im mad it never caught on, because unbalanced to a point by design asymmetrical maps are awesome and really shake things up. That said, I understand why its so hard for people to get around on them, and unless you pay attention to the pre-game map to know which two zones are facing off its really hard to know whats going on. Alas lol.
I haven't played this game since 2013 and I already knew Hydro was going to be listed 😂 It was pretty much dead even back then, I do remember Yukon being fairly popular back in the day though. Great video!
I'm cooking something in my oven right now and I don't need to set a timer because it needs 10 minutes and you just uploaded an exactly 10 minutes video, thanks!
The duality of my clips: Gaming, hitting flares, defending medics as pyro, or playing as medic just shredding the enemy team vs Haha, chicken fence goes brrrrrrrr
I know this isn't exactly a competitive focused video, but I really like to see an up and coming Comp youtuber who doesn't just post Scout frag movie #296 or scrim POV with no editing.
I miss rd_asteroid, the beta era of rd_asteroid feels like a fever dream now. I distinctly remember one of the earlier variants of the map and it was so fun. Robot Destruction walked so that Player Destruction could run. tc_hydro is an interesting one... it's like a 5cp map with a built-in stalemate breaking mechanic that doesn't work... as theoretically you can keep swapping the middle 4 points back and forth between teams indefinitely, but each cap resets the map, making engineer a little bit harder to turtle
I felt like Hydro could work if player can vote for the team where to attack and it should be attack/defend to solve the stalemate and constant playing back and forth each section.
My tf2 experience started with RD_Asteroid. As a new player, it was satisfying to score points for my team without having to stand on a control point waiting to die. This was where I started playing engineer, because I realized pretty quickly that no sentry= no wins. And as a mostly pyro player (cuz aiming was hard) having all of the cliffs was fun.
It is absolutely wild to think that someone's introduction to TF2 was on RD_Asteroid, on a map that wasn't complete, in a game mode that was never finished.
Yukon is my favorite map. Its fun to play since its never gonna be a stalemate or a roll like most 5cp maps. Seriously, it will always be a back and forth which is a great experience.
First played this game in 2014, and wow this video was like a trip down memory lane. I haven't played on any of these maps except Yukon and sort of Hydro if you count TF2C's 4 team variant in literally years, yet some of my earliest memories of the game take place on them. It even made me try to queue up for Pipeline and Nightfall, to no success since it took ages to find a single match that was almost completely dead. Oh well
A slight cure for a burnt tongue: Drizzle honey or put dry white sugar on the burned area, leave it dangling out of your mouth for like 30 seconds-1 minute, this pulls the liquid from the burn and makes it feel a lot better. Just wash your tongue off when you're done. Swear to god works every time.
fkin love hydro, i have vivid core memories of playing tf2 for the first time in 2007 rushing the right side of reds attack flank with 5 battle medics all trying to learn how to use the syringe gun
This Summer I did a thing where I would play every single map available in TF2 casual. I would queue for all maps, play some time, then quit, and next time I would queue I would remove the maps I've already played. And now I remember the general layout of every single official TF2 map that is commonly available (although I'm not sure if that's much of a rare achievement for someone with ~700 hours of playtime). Every single map except for Nightfall. This map is so forgettable the only thing I remember is the name. My brain was confused for a second when you mentioned it alongside Pipeline (a map I vividly remember). My memory only came back after looking at the map's wiki, but even then I didn't recognize the 3rd stage. Maybe I should go replay it right now, after all I do enjoy the gamemode greatly. I suppose you left out the Arena mode exclusive maps for the next video. I hope you make a more in-depth video about those (plus Cactus Canyon and Asteroid) and discuss the layout since these maps are no longer accessible to the average player. Love your videos!
Yeah the area game mode and passtime would be their own video with the amount. Funny you mention Nightfall and Pipeline because when I was looking into the maps for things to talk about, I had the Notes fully taken down for Nightfall only to realise after 30 minutes I was on Pipeline!
Cactus Canyon was funny as fuck because the cart would glitch out. I'm very fond of it because the cart glitching and detaching from it's "soul" making it impossible to push was funny.
Asteroid is a map I always wanted to see as a CTF map. Not that half-assed "Robot Destruction", but _proper_ CTF; I think that would do the map justice. And as for Hydro, as AceTheOcarinaMaker pointed out, it works *MUCH* better as a 3-stage attack/defend map. That way, the asymmetrical nature of the map becomes a non-issue, and the layout can always be consistent.
I firmly believe that pipeline and nightfall are good, fun maps. The only reason nobody plays on them is because 99% of players who are queuing into plr just want to play a free for all team deathmatch on Hightower and not actually play payload.
Damn, I remember coming home after school and immedeatly going to Pipeline to unlock new weapons from Sniper vs Spy update that just dropped. Good times.
Hydro is actually quite fun to play on if you're playing as Engineer. I know this because every time I've played a match on Hydro I've had to play as Engineer because no one else on my team picks Engineer and if you don't have an Engineer defending your point on Hydro you just instantly lose.
I unironically love getting into a game with most of these maps (minus hydro) it’s such a nice change of pace from the normal maps in rotation and usually have less players so it kinda feels relaxing as weird as that may be lol, coldfront is another map I enjoy getting into that I feel is underrated
I have fond memories of playing on all of those maps (granted asteroid was less about the playing and more about the weirdness). Beats why all of these have faded while people still play junction…
I remember back before the jungle inferno update cactus caynon was very popular for a beta map in my country, asteroid was a 2nd option but underrated. There was a option you could choose beta maps in order to join a official server. The only reason why we played alot is because of the ping in my country you could play in no problem even if your internet suck. If i join any other official server map my ping would go over 150/200
Fun fact, for a time Cactus Canyon had a SECOND map between the current first and final...and I have no idea why it was removed. It was added, then removed, over it's life time. So when Canyon was first added, there was 2 stages. Then there was 3...then it went back to 2.
Cactus Canyon was my favorite map. Back then I didnt had a good computer to play TF2 on despite it being a very old game. So whenever I joined a server with full of players I would have a lot of performance issues but Cactus Canyon servers had a lot of half empty servers so I would join them instead
My heart aches for Pipeline and Nightfall. I spent my early years of tf2 in 2013 playing Hightower, Pipeline, and Nightfall, with my favorite being Nightfall. With the quickplay system, payload race was considered just as respectable as any of the other gamemodes. I'd search for servers, and pick whichever one had the most players with the best ping running Pipeline. When matchmaking got released and payload race was relegated to sit with the likes of Hydro, Mann Power, and PASS time. Last time I tried searching for a pipeline game, it was swarmed with bots that I couldn't do anything about.
good editing, earned yourself a subscriber. oh and you using default viewmodels really sets in the vintage 2014 vibe. nobody uses them anymore but i still do for the memories, and i salute you :)
The first game I had on plr_nightfall was bugged, having both payload carts on the last stage having fallen below the map. Some engi had been camping in the server for hours and had 600 points. I quit with 120 as trolldier. Never saw the bug again, and only managed to find the map once more.
God I loved the sonic rush ost. Each one you chose was fitting to the map, nice job. Also Wowie I vividly remember playing on most of these maps back when I was 14 or 15. Hella wild for me to see no one play them much anymore due to many reasons such as not being fun or just not being on the map list (cactus canyon :[).
@@Dynam_ for real yo, time do be scary. Playing newly added maps feel different BUT still give me that same old feeling of wonder and mystery I got when playing a new map back when I first started playing.
I've tried to play plr_pipeline on casual for So long, I remember it being the second map I ever played on and I forgot about it entirely because I got zero games past a certain point, and only remembered its existence because of an old video I stumbled into
Territory control seems like a great game mode, and I actually love the complexity of Hydro, but it is way too chokey in too many places. I wish a modern TC map came out.
I live for obscure and forgotten maps in TF2, they are an enigma for most players nowadays, but for me I dedicate time to admire them, learn how they work, explore every path and try to convince others to play them too, because even if they may be seen as weird or bad, they deserve to have a chance in the spotlight. Btw if there are any Hydro fans out there, please I must know, I am a big fan of the map too.
if i had to describe it, tc_hydro feels like if dustbowl was a 5cp map. i enjoy it sometimes, it's not as confusing as people point it out to be but it's horrendously chokey and small. it has the same problem as asteroid where you have to defend your point, all while while your team is trying to push into the enemy point. if your team is clueless and nobody stays to defend, you'll encounter the infamous "empty hydro point" which will easily be capped before both teams even encounter each other. honestly, hydro would be a tad bit better if every section was opened as a standalone 5cp map. it's gorgeous and canonically, expiration date was set on that same map
Shame the guy who made asteroid and cactus canyon left valve before they got finished. At least we got player destruction from the remnants of asteroid
To be technical, cactus canyon had something like 14 updates, which are all archived. It had a second stage that was cut. Anyway I'm a hydro homie. I am the MASTER of territorial control.
I thought you were going to mention Arena maps. I haven't played on Offblast in years, but I have recently played on most of the maps in this video. At least more recently than Arena maps.
ive made at least 14 territorial control maps. i had to redesign the philosophy of the tf2 map design in order to make them more fun. really tiny but fun. it really is an example of "bad map good game mode".
I love Yukon, and I'll always think of it as one of the most forgettable maps. The only reason I started playing on it is because someone pointed out how forgotten it is. It's cool they made a place in Canada named after it though, can't wait for Turbine to be real
Pipeline used to be a favourite of mine, but I always got confused between Nightfall and Pipeline based on the names. Nightfall is the one during the day and had a main them to the final stage of a big pipe down the middle, while Pipeline is the one set at night time
i don't actually think hydro has random elements within the layouts. the way it's set up is that the different layouts aren't just individual map chunks separated by the void, but rather each territory is just a point in one contiguous map. so a blu point and a red point are chosen, the routes between them are opened up, and the routes to every other point is closed off. and i'm pretty sure that's the full extent of it, meaning the only random elements should be which points are used to make the round's layout. something like the vents being closed off isn't to shake things up, but to prevent you from wandering into the flank of the completely wrong point i think. i don't know how they managed to make "6cp but the next point keeps randomizing" so confusing, but they sure as hell did incidentally, though, this makes dismantling hydro into a cp_hydro a much simpler affair that it might first seem, to the point where you can easily google several different attempts to do so
I like hydro. When I played it there was also a sudden death element to it. I don’t know what it’s like anymore because as you pointed out, it’s a dead map.
I literally went on asteroid servers in the beta tab with no one on just waiting for people to join. I learned all the little una and outs and had a lot of fun playing 1v1s when the one other person queuing did join
one fond memory was when TF2 removed quickplay and made tc hydro playable. ive been playing TF2 since 2012 and ive never played hydro to the point i thought it was a brand new map.
Ah my beloved Hydro if only more people understood and loved the confusing hell you are that I might be able to play more than 1 game on you before the server cries and switches maps.
Funnily enough, Yukon used to be pretty commonly played in TF2 Classic, which was where I played the map. I personally do not like the map and can see why live TF2 ended up burying it as you pointed it out
every time my friends and I queue up with someone new I always say "lets go to camber I love camber" in a sarcastic voice and they always ask without fail "Whats camber" its a silly time haha
I don't play tf2 a whole lot anymore 1 or 2 matches every few months but I follow youtube channels to parasovially play. Hearing Yukon as the first one when that was a map in constant rotation years ago
My man forgot Junction, one of the early attack defense maps that makes all the complaints about being small and chokey on those other maps look quaint. Also, of these maps, it's the only one still in the general rotation pool and nobody likes playing it.
Before Valve dropped their strong TF2 support, it really felt like Cactus Canyon and Asteroid were being set up early to play the part of the Big Finale maps that tie in with the TF2 Comics - with Asteroid being tied into the rocket that escaped Earth with all the Australium.
Part of me hopes that one day they might retool Asteroid to actually be that map.
I never considered it this way…
That actually makes a lot of sense
I used to love Cactus Canyon stage 2, it’s where I had my first great Medic game :)
Seeing myself failing every garden in every shot is the greatest joy ever. Btw thanks for the shoutout for my art at the end ❤
Always for the lagoop supporters
I encountered several people on an Uncletopia server once who had never even seen or heard of plr_nightfall before and didn't know that it was an official map, and they were acting all confused and perplexed by the map's existence.
It made me feel old.
Plr was the most interesting forgotten gamemode imo
@@Dynam_people still somewhat play banana bay, but that's the only plr map that gets players and isn't a dm fest meme like hightower
I love that you timestamp both the section you’re talking about as well as the music you’re using.
It such a small thing but definitely appreciated
:D
Sonic Rush takes me back
Yeah. A leszer UA-camr wouldn’t timestamp his stuff, but with timestamps I’m more willing to give a video my time since I know whether I’ll be interested in the topics discussed
I just nominated Hydro on a London Uncletopia server and got enough people to actually vote for it. At first some people wanted to rtv once the map was on, but we actually played it to the end. It all looked like it will end it a stalement, but in the ende it ended with a win for my team. I had an absolute blast and was glad people didn't abandon the server when the map came on. Playing old and forgotten maps successfully really warms my heart.
I love Hydro to death honestly. Im mad it never caught on, because unbalanced to a point by design asymmetrical maps are awesome and really shake things up. That said, I understand why its so hard for people to get around on them, and unless you pay attention to the pre-game map to know which two zones are facing off its really hard to know whats going on. Alas lol.
I would love to see a modern take on TC
I haven't played this game since 2013 and I already knew Hydro was going to be listed 😂 It was pretty much dead even back then, I do remember Yukon being fairly popular back in the day though. Great video!
Yukon is played enough on uncletopia london and frankfurt that I have grown to hate it
Pipeline and Nightfall too
I was hoping you would talk about cp_junction and how it looks like a half life map that just fell into tf2 by accident and gives you claustrophobia.
Oh god I remember that map
HORSE POSTING in 2023 WILL SAVE TEAM FORTRESS 2 !
MO YOU FIEND!
That is genuine hatred right there
Hors
I'm cooking something in my oven right now and I don't need to set a timer because it needs 10 minutes and you just uploaded an exactly 10 minutes video, thanks!
I remember playing on maps like Hydro, Nightfall, Pipeline, Yukon and Cactus Canyon so many years ago.
Also, Territorial Control is the best gamemode.
It’s unique!
The duality of my clips:
Gaming, hitting flares, defending medics as pyro, or playing as medic just shredding the enemy team
vs
Haha, chicken fence goes brrrrrrrr
Config based blunder
I know this isn't exactly a competitive focused video, but I really like to see an up and coming Comp youtuber who doesn't just post Scout frag movie #296 or scrim POV with no editing.
Takes a lot of restraint
@@Dynam_ do it
I miss rd_asteroid, the beta era of rd_asteroid feels like a fever dream now. I distinctly remember one of the earlier variants of the map and it was so fun. Robot Destruction walked so that Player Destruction could run.
tc_hydro is an interesting one... it's like a 5cp map with a built-in stalemate breaking mechanic that doesn't work... as theoretically you can keep swapping the middle 4 points back and forth between teams indefinitely, but each cap resets the map, making engineer a little bit harder to turtle
I felt like Hydro could work if player can vote for the team where to attack and it should be attack/defend to solve the stalemate and constant playing back and forth each section.
I’d really love to see a modern take on the TC gamemode
7:11 As enjoyer of hydro. I am officially jealous
My tf2 experience started with RD_Asteroid. As a new player, it was satisfying to score points for my team without having to stand on a control point waiting to die. This was where I started playing engineer, because I realized pretty quickly that no sentry= no wins. And as a mostly pyro player (cuz aiming was hard) having all of the cliffs was fun.
It is absolutely wild to think that someone's introduction to TF2 was on RD_Asteroid, on a map that wasn't complete, in a game mode that was never finished.
I loved how you used Sonic Rush music. 😊
I miss both Cactus Canyon and Astroid. Loved them both and I loved watching them change and evolve over time
yukon actually is one of my favorite maps 😭😭
I apologise
great choice on the ost! love how the whole video uses sonic rush ost specifically
All my videos have one game for the background music, Been wanting to use rush for a while!
Yukon is my favorite map.
Its fun to play since its never gonna be a stalemate or a roll like most 5cp maps. Seriously, it will always be a back and forth which is a great experience.
First played this game in 2014, and wow this video was like a trip down memory lane. I haven't played on any of these maps except Yukon and sort of Hydro if you count TF2C's 4 team variant in literally years, yet some of my earliest memories of the game take place on them. It even made me try to queue up for Pipeline and Nightfall, to no success since it took ages to find a single match that was almost completely dead. Oh well
Cactus Canyon, my beloved. How I miss you. 😔
This game has so many damn maps that i still discover new ones when playing casual all the time
A slight cure for a burnt tongue: Drizzle honey or put dry white sugar on the burned area, leave it dangling out of your mouth for like 30 seconds-1 minute, this pulls the liquid from the burn and makes it feel a lot better. Just wash your tongue off when you're done. Swear to god works every time.
Noted
fkin love hydro, i have vivid core memories of playing tf2 for the first time in 2007 rushing the right side of reds attack flank with 5 battle medics all trying to learn how to use the syringe gun
oh wow this is a great video! The little animatics bring out a lot of charm here!
I don’t have much to add to the discussion. I just wanted to say that your channel is a breathe of fresh air and I hope it becomes big.
Thank you!
haven't played tf2 in a while and it hurts to see my favorite maps, yukon, cactus canyon & hydro on this list :')
Ty lex for the sprites! It really elevates these videos from good to great.
They’re my special guy!
This Summer I did a thing where I would play every single map available in TF2 casual. I would queue for all maps, play some time, then quit, and next time I would queue I would remove the maps I've already played. And now I remember the general layout of every single official TF2 map that is commonly available (although I'm not sure if that's much of a rare achievement for someone with ~700 hours of playtime). Every single map except for Nightfall. This map is so forgettable the only thing I remember is the name. My brain was confused for a second when you mentioned it alongside Pipeline (a map I vividly remember). My memory only came back after looking at the map's wiki, but even then I didn't recognize the 3rd stage. Maybe I should go replay it right now, after all I do enjoy the gamemode greatly.
I suppose you left out the Arena mode exclusive maps for the next video. I hope you make a more in-depth video about those (plus Cactus Canyon and Asteroid) and discuss the layout since these maps are no longer accessible to the average player. Love your videos!
Yeah the area game mode and passtime would be their own video with the amount.
Funny you mention Nightfall and Pipeline because when I was looking into the maps for things to talk about, I had the Notes fully taken down for Nightfall only to realise after 30 minutes I was on Pipeline!
Cactus Canyon was funny as fuck because the cart would glitch out.
I'm very fond of it because the cart glitching and detaching from it's "soul" making it impossible to push was funny.
Performing a resurrection on the cart
Asteroid is a map I always wanted to see as a CTF map. Not that half-assed "Robot Destruction", but _proper_ CTF; I think that would do the map justice. And as for Hydro, as AceTheOcarinaMaker pointed out, it works *MUCH* better as a 3-stage attack/defend map. That way, the asymmetrical nature of the map becomes a non-issue, and the layout can always be consistent.
I firmly believe that pipeline and nightfall are good, fun maps. The only reason nobody plays on them is because 99% of players who are queuing into plr just want to play a free for all team deathmatch on Hightower and not actually play payload.
Hydro is best map since it has Roguelike/Roguelite stuff in it.
True, valve should’ve cashed in when everyone was making roguelikes
Damn, I remember coming home after school and immedeatly going to Pipeline to unlock new weapons from Sniper vs Spy update that just dropped. Good times.
Hydro is actually quite fun to play on if you're playing as Engineer. I know this because every time I've played a match on Hydro I've had to play as Engineer because no one else on my team picks Engineer and if you don't have an Engineer defending your point on Hydro you just instantly lose.
A contest of who can stalemate harder
I unironically love getting into a game with most of these maps (minus hydro) it’s such a nice change of pace from the normal maps in rotation and usually have less players so it kinda feels relaxing as weird as that may be lol, coldfront is another map I enjoy getting into that I feel is underrated
I have fond memories of playing on all of those maps (granted asteroid was less about the playing and more about the weirdness). Beats why all of these have faded while people still play junction…
Asteroid was one of my favorite maps back in a day. loved the rd and had a lot of fun in this mode. Imho it was huge upgrade comparing to normal ctf
I remember back before the jungle inferno update cactus caynon was very popular for a beta map in my country, asteroid was a 2nd option but underrated. There was a option you could choose beta maps in order to join a official server. The only reason why we played alot is because of the ping in my country you could play in no problem even if your internet suck. If i join any other official server map my ping would go over 150/200
I love how the discord has embraced Mo’s horseposting enough to get it mentioned in a video
Mo is simply built different
I’m just fucking crazy
Mo is a creature
I play TF2C and community servers a lot and had no idea Yukon was hardly played anymore. That’s sad.
Good Sonic Rush bgm btw
Fun fact, for a time Cactus Canyon had a SECOND map between the current first and final...and I have no idea why it was removed. It was added, then removed, over it's life time. So when Canyon was first added, there was 2 stages. Then there was 3...then it went back to 2.
Cactus Canyon was my favorite map. Back then I didnt had a good computer to play TF2 on despite it being a very old game. So whenever I joined a server with full of players I would have a lot of performance issues but Cactus Canyon servers had a lot of half empty servers so I would join them instead
Another Dynam banger as expected
My heart aches for Pipeline and Nightfall. I spent my early years of tf2 in 2013 playing Hightower, Pipeline, and Nightfall, with my favorite being Nightfall. With the quickplay system, payload race was considered just as respectable as any of the other gamemodes. I'd search for servers, and pick whichever one had the most players with the best ping running Pipeline. When matchmaking got released and payload race was relegated to sit with the likes of Hydro, Mann Power, and PASS time. Last time I tried searching for a pipeline game, it was swarmed with bots that I couldn't do anything about.
Quickplay servers that looked like they had players but it was just bots was the biggest betrayal of 2014
good editing, earned yourself a subscriber. oh and you using default viewmodels really sets in the vintage 2014 vibe. nobody uses them anymore but i still do for the memories, and i salute you :)
Oh man, I used to play the shit out of Pipeline back in the day. I loved payload race when I was younger for some reason
I'll always remember Yukon as the map where Scout broke his fingers.
The first game I had on plr_nightfall was bugged, having both payload carts on the last stage having fallen below the map. Some engi had been camping in the server for hours and had 600 points. I quit with 120 as trolldier. Never saw the bug again, and only managed to find the map once more.
i'm so bitter about cactus canyon never being finished. Pipeline and Nightfall were my favorites too
God I loved the sonic rush ost. Each one you chose was fitting to the map, nice job.
Also Wowie I vividly remember playing on most of these maps back when I was 14 or 15. Hella wild for me to see no one play them much anymore due to many reasons such as not being fun or just not being on the map list (cactus canyon :[).
It's strange when you realise how old you were when you first play on a map
@@Dynam_ for real yo, time do be scary. Playing newly added maps feel different BUT still give me that same old feeling of wonder and mystery I got when playing a new map back when I first started playing.
I'm here for the Hydro commentary,
Yknow, a map that came out WITH the game.
I love hydro. I play it on Valve official servers whenever i can which is surprisingly often.
truely forgotten maps would be like: PLR_snowplow and the invasion event maps. I still see uncletopia have pipeline and yukon from time to time.
Yo as a massive guilty gear and tf2 fan, your videos bring me so much joy. Thank you❤️❤️❤️
I've tried to play plr_pipeline on casual for So long, I remember it being the second map I ever played on and I forgot about it entirely because I got zero games past a certain point, and only remembered its existence because of an old video I stumbled into
Territory control seems like a great game mode, and I actually love the complexity of Hydro, but it is way too chokey in too many places. I wish a modern TC map came out.
I live for obscure and forgotten maps in TF2, they are an enigma for most players nowadays, but for me I dedicate time to admire them, learn how they work, explore every path and try to convince others to play them too, because even if they may be seen as weird or bad, they deserve to have a chance in the spotlight.
Btw if there are any Hydro fans out there, please I must know, I am a big fan of the map too.
Solid music choice dude! Rush needs more love tbh.
imo ghoulpit is one of the most forgotten maps in tf2, it got added and then nobody ever talked about it
if i had to describe it, tc_hydro feels like if dustbowl was a 5cp map. i enjoy it sometimes, it's not as confusing as people point it out to be but it's horrendously chokey and small. it has the same problem as asteroid where you have to defend your point, all while while your team is trying to push into the enemy point. if your team is clueless and nobody stays to defend, you'll encounter the infamous "empty hydro point" which will easily be capped before both teams even encounter each other. honestly, hydro would be a tad bit better if every section was opened as a standalone 5cp map. it's gorgeous and canonically, expiration date was set on that same map
Great vid man, keep it up you have a lot of potential
Shame the guy who made asteroid and cactus canyon left valve before they got finished.
At least we got player destruction from the remnants of asteroid
To be technical, cactus canyon had something like 14 updates, which are all archived. It had a second stage that was cut.
Anyway I'm a hydro homie. I am the MASTER of territorial control.
No updates since 2014 sadly 😭
I thought you were going to mention Arena maps. I haven't played on Offblast in years, but I have recently played on most of the maps in this video. At least more recently than Arena maps.
My older cousin who got me into tf2 would only play on this one Japanese server that was hydro 24/7. Still makes me nostalgic when I play hydro
ive made at least 14 territorial control maps. i had to redesign the philosophy of the tf2 map design in order to make them more fun. really tiny but fun. it really is an example of "bad map good game mode".
Is there a way to play them?
I love Yukon, and I'll always think of it as one of the most forgettable maps. The only reason I started playing on it is because someone pointed out how forgotten it is. It's cool they made a place in Canada named after it though, can't wait for Turbine to be real
I will visit it when it is
7:14 glad to meet another professional hydro player
Ayy, did you also play in that tourney?
Pipeline used to be a favourite of mine, but I always got confused between Nightfall and Pipeline based on the names. Nightfall is the one during the day and had a main them to the final stage of a big pipe down the middle, while Pipeline is the one set at night time
i don't actually think hydro has random elements within the layouts. the way it's set up is that the different layouts aren't just individual map chunks separated by the void, but rather each territory is just a point in one contiguous map. so a blu point and a red point are chosen, the routes between them are opened up, and the routes to every other point is closed off. and i'm pretty sure that's the full extent of it, meaning the only random elements should be which points are used to make the round's layout. something like the vents being closed off isn't to shake things up, but to prevent you from wandering into the flank of the completely wrong point
i think. i don't know how they managed to make "6cp but the next point keeps randomizing" so confusing, but they sure as hell did
incidentally, though, this makes dismantling hydro into a cp_hydro a much simpler affair that it might first seem, to the point where you can easily google several different attempts to do so
My favorite map was Convoy and Aerospace
Dynam finna be one of the next tf2 greats calling it
i really like your penguin mascot and all his cameos in the video
He has committed many crimes
@@Dynam_ fits right into tf2 then
8:45 absolutely hated that fukin' point cuz right as we got in that place the whole of the red team materialized inside it and it was a damn slaughter
I’m glad it was over fast rayro
I like hydro. When I played it there was also a sudden death element to it. I don’t know what it’s like anymore because as you pointed out, it’s a dead map.
I have to watch these at 0.75 times speed for the voice over to be at a normal speed.
I have so many ideas in my head and I have to get them out 😭
I remember Asteroid being a lot more fun to play when it was still accessible, especially as Spy.
I literally went on asteroid servers in the beta tab with no one on just waiting for people to join. I learned all the little una and outs and had a lot of fun playing 1v1s when the one other person queuing did join
Twas a high quality video, the recommanded tab worked it's magic
:D
one fond memory was when TF2 removed quickplay and made tc hydro playable. ive been playing TF2 since 2012 and ive never played hydro to the point i thought it was a brand new map.
It’s a unique idea that I kinda wish that valve or a community mapper would revisit with a newer look on the game
What was that 1 PLR map where you raced dolphins?
I have no idea but that sounds sick!
@@Dynam_ooh, found it. PLR Whale Race used to be in a lot of old videos but I guess knowledge of it is pretty niche now.
I liked that you included a clip of me falling off the map twice
It was funny :)
Ah my beloved Hydro if only more people understood and loved the confusing hell you are that I might be able to play more than 1 game on you before the server cries and switches maps.
Funnily enough, Yukon used to be pretty commonly played in TF2 Classic, which was where I played the map. I personally do not like the map and can see why live TF2 ended up burying it as you pointed it out
loving your videos dude. keep it up you're great
Thank you!
my memories of yukon consist of two funny little gremlin amby spies. nothing more.
If you’re referencing what I think you are then you’ve successfully pulled at my nostalgia well done 🎉
love the tf2 content really brings memories back to simpler times
every time my friends and I queue up with someone new I always say "lets go to camber I love camber" in a sarcastic voice and they always ask without fail "Whats camber" its a silly time haha
I don't play tf2 a whole lot anymore 1 or 2 matches every few months but I follow youtube channels to parasovially play. Hearing Yukon as the first one when that was a map in constant rotation years ago
Times have long since gone
I actually really like Yukon purely just because of how cool it looks. (And totally not because I’m Canadian)
Also RIP ur tongue
I will come back stronger
Yesterday I played tf2 for the first time in years, and Yukon was one of the maps I ended up on lol
My man forgot Junction, one of the early attack defense maps that makes all the complaints about being small and chokey on those other maps look quaint. Also, of these maps, it's the only one still in the general rotation pool and nobody likes playing it.
Love it when videos comes out at 1 am
Time zone moment
dude were two hours apart wdym
@@Dynam_
Sounds like someone played a lotta Sonic Rush during their childhood.
Hell yeah
Ok, I play tons of 100 player servers and Hydro is constantly in rotation so I’ve played that map a ton
I've played Yukon a couple times but it's always a steamroll so I've hardly spent five minutes on it.
Holy shit, I've been playing on and off since like 2013 and the only one of these I actually recognize is Hydro. Game's got a lotta fuckin maps