Final Fantasy VI Opera with real voice in English

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  • Опубліковано 9 лют 2025
  • Aria di Mezzo Carattere scene from Final Fantasy VI with synchronized audio taken from the Dear Friends album.
    The lyrics are more similar to the game boy advance version, yet this was taken from the snes version.
    I am planning on mixing more versions of this track and maybe add scenes from FF anthology in the mix when I have some more time.
    I think it is a good idea to support the people behind this beautiful song. Here is a link to the downloadable version from the Distant Worlds Album. It is not exactly the same one I used, but quite good too. It is just 1 dollar and totally worth it.
    store.ffdistant...

КОМЕНТАРІ • 201

  • @SailorBalance
    @SailorBalance 13 років тому +60

    This is how I imagined Celes' sounded back in 1994. I'd just sing along with her and imagine my voice sounded that epic.

  • @Kynero00
    @Kynero00 14 років тому +21

    I love this scene so much. Very epic! And Celes is so beautiful....

  • @MrKeyblademaster1992
    @MrKeyblademaster1992 12 років тому +24

    Beautiful. Just plain beautiful. *wipes tear from his eye* Now if only the SNES could have handled voices like that.

  • @cloudraven
    @cloudraven  15 років тому +13

    Thanks! Yeah! I remember the first time I heard this version.
    This is from the dear friends concert series, it was recorded from the stockholm one.
    Right now the distant worlds concert featuring this song is touring. Trust me, hearing this live is mind blowing! The next one is in Chicago on Dec 12, and Nobuo will be there!! If you have the chance to go don't miss it.

  • @Mormegil2009
    @Mormegil2009 15 років тому +8

    I have to say that this song brings me back to a time when i used to care about life, Final Fantasy has always been a series of videogames that inspire people to actually feel something. Sad really that most people dont do that anymore. Still i consider this as a MASTERPIECE.

  • @LusciaKoushiro
    @LusciaKoushiro 14 років тому +6

    Absolutely beautiful, really makes me wish they would remake this game just for this to be epicly sung like that.

  • @samuraireflection
    @samuraireflection 5 років тому +7

    how can you not be happy with this!? its fuckin beautiful! nice song.

    • @TBKholyavenger
      @TBKholyavenger 5 років тому

      I mean, I hate to be that guy, but I do have a preference for the SNES/PS1 lyrics myself... Still like the voice and all, just personal preference since I played the SNES version first, twas the first version I heard/read.

  • @emscott32
    @emscott32 14 років тому +4

    This is the most beautiful song ever...makes me cry because nobou says of a love so beautiful and this song describes all the emotion of love.

  • @warrenbeall4946
    @warrenbeall4946 5 років тому +3

    This gave me chills! Thank you! This is beautiful!

  • @hoosierbrony
    @hoosierbrony 12 років тому +4

    That was INSANE, it gave me goosebumps, for real.

  • @cloudraven
    @cloudraven  15 років тому +4

    Yes, it was beautiful and Nobuo Uematsu was there too!
    Nice! you did both scenes, good job!

  • @Edierne
    @Edierne 15 років тому +4

    marvelous!! this is the first time I listen to this version! I simply love this part! is the best! simply breath taking!

  • @tomjackson6077
    @tomjackson6077 Рік тому +1

    It’s so beautiful I’m crying 😭

  • @Myrope
    @Myrope 11 років тому +4

    This is amazing!

  • @grossgraph2028
    @grossgraph2028 9 років тому +3

    This is perfect and beautiful! Almost cried

  • @breakspirit
    @breakspirit 13 років тому +1

    This video is the single greatest thing ever made.

  • @Laura69
    @Laura69 5 років тому +1

    I didn't expected that awesome, wonderful and marvelous final.
    FFVI, not a game but a masterpiece

  • @SaltyLocke
    @SaltyLocke 14 років тому +1

    Celes' storyline is arguably the most heartbreaking storyline in the Final Fantasy Sagas... The only final fantasy girl to outrank Aerith in my book.. (and that's pretty hard to pull off.)

  • @cloudraven
    @cloudraven  15 років тому +3

    After leaving from the Distant Worlds concert it just felt right to do something like this

  • @Merlangpoo
    @Merlangpoo 3 роки тому

    Seeing her singing this song give me a multiple combo of goose-bump!!

  • @Turtlesauron
    @Turtlesauron 13 років тому

    I had never thought games to be art until I played Final Fantasy VI. This... is amazing. It gives me emotion that I could never feel otherwise. Thank you for posting this.

  • @themightypaw3318
    @themightypaw3318 2 роки тому

    2:52 absolute goosebumps

  • @DaSurreal1da
    @DaSurreal1da 15 років тому

    I have been humming this theme for almost 15 years and i have almost every version of the FF6 soundtrack and I have NEVER heard this version. You cannot know what this means to me, Thank you....and I love how you synced it up with the original cinema. WOW

  • @kaije7art
    @kaije7art 12 років тому

    For nostalgia I pulled out my SNES and started playing FFIII (FFVI to the rest of the world) - and I got to the opera part of the game and said "why haven't I seen a vocalized version of this song on the net?" Took me too long to find this one - it far outshines the rest of them out there. Great job.

  • @cloudraven
    @cloudraven  12 років тому +25

    She is Stephanie Woodling. Her version is my favorite among all the English versions of this song. I guess I still prefer the Italian version of Svetla Krasteva.

    • @syncringe1885
      @syncringe1885 4 роки тому +1

      I feel 8 bit could only do so well... This sounds like what it would have been on a more recent console.

  • @twist777hz
    @twist777hz 4 роки тому +4

    Mesmerizing! I actually prefer this to the Italian/French/Japanese versions! Greetings from Japan😃

  • @jameswelch3624
    @jameswelch3624 4 роки тому +4

    Many years after my first play through of this game, I know why I and many other people tear up when we hear this song. For me I have never experienced a bond of love as deep as the love Draco and Maria had in the opera event in the game. I hear this and my heart, now almost made of stone from the heartbreak of the women I dated and loved who dumped me, breaks apart. God I hate being single, all I want is a woman near my age who will love me for who I am. Is that so much to ask?

  • @zachzorn9930
    @zachzorn9930 3 роки тому

    Amazing. Exactly what I was looking for.

  • @michaeltirado2479
    @michaeltirado2479 8 років тому +1

    I agree Miss Crowe. I grew up playing that game from it the year it came out and it's still one of my favorite games of all time. We all know that you had to memorize (or write down lol ) the specific words that Locke read off of the score, and though the female was singing very beautifully she didn't sing the words correctly. It did bring back good memories of the game but it failed to capture me with bringing such an epic scene to life. A+ To the singer who has an amazing voice, it is not her fault that the words we're not as the game had them in 1994

    • @MariAnimates
      @MariAnimates 6 років тому

      This version is closer to the original japanese version. Plus, mezzo originally translated to italian so its been translated japanese, italian, then english.

  • @Vash987
    @Vash987 4 роки тому

    This was so beautiful.

  • @nin413
    @nin413 4 роки тому +11

    O my hero, my beloved,
    Shall we still be made to part,
    The promises of perennial love
    Yet sing here in my heart...
    I'm the darkness, you're the starlight
    Shining brightly from afar.
    Through hours of despair, I offer this prayer
    To you, my evening star.
    Must my final vows exchanged
    Be with him and not with you?
    Were you only here to quiet my fear...
    O speak! Guide me anew.
    I am thankful, my beloved,
    For your tenderness and grace.
    I see in your eyes, so gentle and wise,
    All doubts and fears erased!
    Though the hours take no notice
    Of what fate might have in store,
    Our love, come what may, will never age a day.
    I'll wait forevermore!

  • @Silverbolt197
    @Silverbolt197 13 років тому +1

    I must be one of the few people who pictured Celes with a reletively deeper voice; she was a damn general in the army, on the same level as Kefka and Leo, did you guys really think she would be all dainty with a soft, high-pitched voice?
    Another thing: this voice is in the same range as the synthesized one in-game, they weren't going to pitch up the whole score when the part originally was for an Alto.

  • @VeggieGamer
    @VeggieGamer 14 років тому

    Thought I had already faved this :/ FAV!
    Awesome vid :3

  • @MrPhantomile
    @MrPhantomile 12 років тому +1

    Imagine how impressive this was back in 1994. I remember reading that at the game's launch ceremony Uematsu himself cried of joy hearing the tune played in the presentation, recognizing how much effort he had put in making of ff6 the best game out there. That comment makes me feel sad...recent videogames have somehow lost this kind of magic. I suppose it's because the market is getting bigger and many SH just try to sell more copies.

  • @CaptObviousX
    @CaptObviousX 13 років тому

    this song makes me cry, reminding me my youth's love

  • @djcarlospower
    @djcarlospower 10 років тому

    great song
    i am really thankful to you
    for bring back old memories

  • @JohrDasat
    @JohrDasat 13 років тому +1

    Well done Celes....

  • @DrNordo
    @DrNordo 12 років тому +4

    If you haven't done so since you posted this, do yourself a favor and play this game immediately! Get the SNES, GBA, PSN or hell even an emulated version and PLAY IT! This game was one of the hallmarks of my childhood. Even now, nearly 20 years since I played it for the first time, it is the standard whereby I compare all other RPG's regarding characters, story, and music.

  • @Knevix711
    @Knevix711 12 років тому

    Not sure if getting tears b/c of sinus infection, or b/c this song is just so beautiful.

  • @goglespit
    @goglespit 14 років тому

    Proving once again that everything in this game is epic even if it was not actually in the game

  • @Dagahaug
    @Dagahaug 15 років тому

    well said! A masterpiece it truly is.

  • @cloudraven
    @cloudraven  15 років тому +2

    The lyrics are from the new GBA version and I did the capture from the SNES one. But I can try to capture from the GBA version next. Thanks for watching
    The singers name is Stephanie Woodling (Maria), and I agree she has a beautiful voice.

  • @BriGuyIL1980
    @BriGuyIL1980 13 років тому

    The ending gives me goosebumps

  • @SteeleyBoy1989
    @SteeleyBoy1989 8 років тому +1

    aww man, so close man, good stuff tho, i do agree tho i wish lyrics of the orginal song were kept unchanged, but again thx for the video

    • @Usurpationblitz
      @Usurpationblitz 8 років тому

      I think these lyrics much better since it rhymes, unlike the SNES version.

  • @cloudraven
    @cloudraven  14 років тому

    @Yamauta I Agree. I like how in a world full of despair she finds her reason and her hope.

  • @Jukka70
    @Jukka70 13 років тому

    @jmac1686 I've been wishing for a full blown CGI updated version ever since playstation 2 came out, but now with 3, OMG this would be so worth it. And like you said, this scene alone would make buying the game again worth it, not to mention it was one of the best ones written story wise and what had to be figured out.

  • @michaelhighwind4458
    @michaelhighwind4458 9 років тому

    Beautiful voice!

  • @leobesa2887
    @leobesa2887 3 роки тому

    I love this! Just playing ff6 in my computer

  • @Freshrock
    @Freshrock 13 років тому

    Eeee that was sick!!!

  • @easternangel91
    @easternangel91 11 років тому +1

    Love this Thanks :)

  • @cloudraven
    @cloudraven  12 років тому

    There is... kind of. It is called The Dream Oath or Maria & Draco.
    You can see it live at the Distant Worlds concerts. However it doesn't include costumes ,acting or a full cast, but it does feature three live opera singers. It shows the same fragment shown in the game, plus the ending assuming that Locke and the others don't fall from the ceiling.

  • @theyugiohcardforger
    @theyugiohcardforger 3 роки тому

    It's a funny contrast to see supee n e s graphics and these vocals but it's so beautiful that you forget that in seconds

  • @Link504
    @Link504 13 років тому

    @IrishVagrant Okay, that made me lol, while I was crying from the epicness

  • @nasur86
    @nasur86 13 років тому

    how is this disliked i think this is the best part in the game.

  • @MaximillianRobesphereguill
    @MaximillianRobesphereguill 3 роки тому

    I was n-not prepared.

  • @tapipat
    @tapipat 11 років тому

    Awesome!

  • @nalaiscool99
    @nalaiscool99 13 років тому

    Cue: Standing Ovation. Bow to Audience. Exit stage left.

  • @cloudraven
    @cloudraven  12 років тому

    If you are talking about the cut I made at 2:00, I tried to make it as subtle as possible. In the arranged version instead of Maria singing both halves one after the other, she sings one half then the dance and fight scenes come in and only then she sings the final half.
    If you are talking about the change in the arranged version with respect to the original SNES version where Draco's ghost is there. I kind of agree... I miss that part too, but I still liked what they did.

  • @edwardedwards6785
    @edwardedwards6785 3 роки тому

    Dumb, fun UA-cam idea: writing lyrics to video game songs. Did it for forever rachel now for this one.
    Come my dearest…. Hold me fearless. Lest I ever fall in tears. A face gives me strength…to go for a length… for pained beloved years…In the shadows… lies a lost soul….and your light returns her home….For all that has passed I only would ask….my heart not go unknown.

  • @kushiro07
    @kushiro07 15 років тому

    i actually always wronged the lyrics in games. hahaha. but when i heard it.. it was so lovely song. i wish it has a 3d version of The Opera with real voice sung by Celes!

  • @Blizaros
    @Blizaros 13 років тому

    Okay...I've never played FF VI, I know NOTHING about the story, I have no clue of the story of all the characters and I'm almost crying. I can barely imagine how it must be for the players.

  • @RyanDeJager
    @RyanDeJager 11 років тому +1

    I KNOW! I was just thinking that... it's supposed to be all grand like where they add strings one at a time and then it eventually swells into the minor brass part. Now it's some quick sappy string part with a lame major chord to end it.

  • @princessmarlena1359
    @princessmarlena1359 4 роки тому

    It’s times like this, I wish I had the ability to sing...but my larynx, trachea, and throat are damaged, my voice sounds atrocious.

  • @cloudraven
    @cloudraven  15 років тому +1

    Yeah, she was separated from Draco. In the next scene Draco appears to take Maria back, he fights prince Ralse (who is keeping her and wants to marry her) and of course he wins.
    In the game the opera is interrupted halfway and something funny happens though.

  • @leochan5811
    @leochan5811 3 роки тому

    [Maria]
    Oh my hero, so far away now
    Will I ever see your smile?
    Love goes away, like night into day
    It's just a fading dream
    I'm the darkness, you're the stars
    Our love is brighter than the sun
    For eternity, for me there can be
    Only you, my chosen one...
    Must I forget you? Our solemn promise?
    Will autumn take the place of spring?
    What shall I do? I'm lost without you
    Speak to me once more!
    [Draco]
    Come, Maria. Follow my lead
    [Draco]
    Ha ha ha ha...
    [Maria]
    We must part now, my life goes on
    But my heart won't give you up
    Ere I walk away, let me hear you say
    I meant as much to you....
    So gently, you touched my heart
    I will be forever yours
    Come what may, I won't age a day
    I'll wait for you, always...
    [Chancellor]
    Prince Ralse is looking for a dance partner
    Leave the past behind
    Our kingdom is adopting the spirit of the East

  • @cloudraven
    @cloudraven  13 років тому

    @fheisk Thanks! Point taken. When did this v ideo GBA emulators didn't support Super2xSAI. Actually that video has S2XSAI enabled in ZSnes. The problem was that youtube reduced the screen resolution drastically, and kinda looks like nearest neighbor. I now removed that part from the description.
    The thing was that I wrote the description before actually uploading it. I will eventually upload a full version of this with the whole opera scene

  • @TheFassa
    @TheFassa 12 років тому

    I CANNOT BELIVE!!! A SUCH GOOD GAME AND A SUCH GOOD PRODUCER (Developer, whatever) AND YOU SAY THEY DID NOT KNOW WHATS AN OPERA??? SHAME ON YOU!!!

  • @landlifter
    @landlifter 13 років тому

    this is a nice piece for a wedding or a funeral...either way, it's a nice piece!!

  • @graviron
    @graviron 13 років тому

    FF VI... the best FF yet...for me, that is...:)

  • @TheFassa
    @TheFassa 12 років тому

    Guy:That also was not in the script!

  • @SPS148669
    @SPS148669 15 років тому

    This is how great the the 64 bit, 3d, surround, lossless d SNES sound chip is!

  • @ShadowCrowX
    @ShadowCrowX 12 років тому

    LOL this is hilarious. A tiny little sprite singing with a real voice. I am of course tied to the charm of a 16bit voice sorta "singing" this tune due to nostalgia reasons.

  • @TheFassa
    @TheFassa 12 років тому +2

    Maria starts singing the last verse
    Guy:The prince is looking for a dance partner.
    Maria Continues.
    Guy: Uh...Maria?
    The Love of Maria starts singing with her.
    Guy:ENEMY!!!
    Celes:THAT WAS NOT IN THE SCRIPT BITCH!!!

  • @cloudraven
    @cloudraven  14 років тому

    @SuperChrisSixtyFour The original SNES translation was supposed to be poor. The lyrics for dear friends / distant worlds concerts were taken from the GBA translation which is a bit more faithful to the japanese original. I also have nostalgic feelings for the original, but I have to accept that this translation is pretty good.

  • @cloudraven
    @cloudraven  12 років тому

    Hahaha... thats funny. I haven't found a version without Ralse, Maria and Draco singing at the end. Perhaps I should have edited it so that they finish singing before the other guy comes in looking for Maria.
    I guess I like it more this way now, it is funny. Thanks for watching

  • @MrNightSlider
    @MrNightSlider 3 роки тому

    Still beautiful

  • @browncoatkevin
    @browncoatkevin 13 років тому

    @jmac1686
    I can see it in my mind... the camera would be used for maximum drama, and the dance section in the middle could be a "press X here" microgame to add twirls or flourishes (it would have to move Celes on its own, though), and failing bad enough would be what makes her late to the top (to keep that failure in)... even with 3DS/PSP graphics, it would be a visual feast well worth it. Extra bonus points if it's VA'd like this, triply so if the Japanese audio is there as well.

  • @cloudraven
    @cloudraven  13 років тому

    @TheJazzer94 Can you tell that to Richard Wagner? German Opera is almost as old as the Italian one, and there is opera in other languages as well.
    That said, this segment is an aria, "Aria di Mezzo Carattere" and Square did get someone to sing it in Italian. Actually, the first voiced version was in Italian, and performed by the Bulgarian soprano Svetla Krasteva. This version appeared at the end of the PSX version of FF6.
    I can't post links so look for "Grand Finale - Aria di Mezzo Carattere"

  • @thehoosierfortheuk4838
    @thehoosierfortheuk4838 11 років тому +1

    Amazing! Imagine if Forrest Gump were also an SNES game!

  • @agentkuan
    @agentkuan 12 років тому

    The original lyrics where she sings "We must part now, my life goes on. But my heart won't give you up..." seems more appropriate when she's tossing the flowers. Still good though.

  • @zachzorn9930
    @zachzorn9930 3 роки тому

    I do wish the entire Opera was done though

  • @cloudraven
    @cloudraven  14 років тому

    @twilightwindwaker The singer has to be a soprano, but other than that, there are many that have interpreted this song in English. There is an official one for the Italian version (Svetla Krasteva), and another one for the japanese version but I don't know her name. Check the distant worlds or grand finale CDs for other singers doing it.
    The ending in the game does not have a second singer, in this case the guys doing the voices for Ralse and Draco also sing here.

  • @Alexeiyeah
    @Alexeiyeah 15 років тому

    Nobuo Uematsu... I freanking love you.

  • @theyugiohcardforger
    @theyugiohcardforger 3 роки тому

    Am I imaging it or when this played in Boston they had more dialog? Including some singing for what would have happened after ultr
    Ous (sorry auto correct) crashed the performance

    • @boyceps
      @boyceps 3 роки тому

      I turn autocorrect off. For me, it causes more errors than it corrects and "corrects" words or user names that it dosen't recognise.

  • @Chokoboh
    @Chokoboh 3 роки тому +1

    Basically, the story of my life.

    • @boyceps
      @boyceps 3 роки тому +1

      Mine also. Though, my "love" never came to rescue me.

    • @Chokoboh
      @Chokoboh 3 роки тому

      @@boyceps Rescue yourself.
      There's no one comin to you.
      It's alright to seek help from the outside if you can't handle it all by yourself but YOU have to start making a change.
      Good luck.

    • @boyceps
      @boyceps 3 роки тому

      @@Chokoboh: I was kinda making a jobe but, yeah. I have to look for help. I've been trying but I've resigned myself to the fact that I'm going to die alone. It's fine but that won't stop me from trying.

    • @Chokoboh
      @Chokoboh 3 роки тому

      @@boyceps First things first. You have to take care of yourself so you're at your personal optimum, so that a potential friend may be able see you the way you really are and not mistake you for a weak, broken individual that can't take responsibility for important things.
      And then, reach out to achieve your goals.

    • @boyceps
      @boyceps 3 роки тому

      @@Chokoboh: True. I am broken but hardly weak. I'm piecing myself back together and I not only take responsibility for my actions but also realise that there are consequences of my actions.

  • @cloudraven
    @cloudraven  15 років тому

    It would be awesome to do the whole thing, but it will definitely take some effort to mix and match all the different pieces into it.
    There are no official DVDs as far as I know, but try typing this in the search box in youtube
    "Distant Worlds: Opera - Maria and Draco" the second hit is the one I attended to (in Seattle).

  • @knightsintodreams
    @knightsintodreams 15 років тому

    did he throw fish? he threw this plastic fish to the audience in the concert in seattle. it was...strange, i figured i simply wasn't privvy to the joke. he was 8 seats down from me X3 these two business-looking men were FLIPPING out in front of me, it was awesome. nobuo turns everyone into dorks!!

  • @gabrielkunuchiha
    @gabrielkunuchiha 11 років тому

    excellent! ^_^

  • @solank7620
    @solank7620 7 років тому +1

    Is there an English version with the SNES lyrics anywhere?
    This is nice, but I grew up with the SNES version, so I prefer those lyrics.

  • @TheDorkSide777
    @TheDorkSide777 14 років тому

    @jmac1686 The true masterpiece of this scene is how it was accomplished back then with limited technology. Final Fantasy 6 was a game years ahead of its time, and IMO, surpasses FF 7 in every single way. I just want the GBA remake to use the original freaking lyrics and I will be satisfied.

  • @Puchuchan
    @Puchuchan 12 років тому

    Okay, I've heard this in Italian, Japanese and English, desperately searching the internet for a version where the singer isn't using vibrato as if she gets paid extra for every second of it she uses, and *every* single version is like this! wtf, people, it's possible to sing opera without it! I wish we could go back to when vibrato wasn't "in", but rather seen as a sign that you had crappy signing technique (which, if it's uncontrolled vibrato, you do, actually).

  • @cloudraven
    @cloudraven  14 років тому

    @darkspirit14 It's funny you mention it. The singer for this version is Stephanie Woodling. She definitely looks young. I think she is a good Celes.

  • @cloudraven
    @cloudraven  12 років тому

    thanks @shadowcecil.
    1. They are the updated lyrics from Dear Friends / Distant Worlds and GBA. As you should know, the first translation of FF6 was rushed and not perfect, yet it has a nostalgic value for which we all love it. Still, these are actually closer to the japanese originals, so they are more accurate.
    2. Do yourself a favor and Google Stephanie Woodling. Not large, not old.
    3. About the tune. I have no idea what you are talking about.
    4. Shut up.
    No need to feed the troll anymore.

  • @Frilleon
    @Frilleon 3 роки тому

    Hi do you have an HD version of this rendition or know where I can buy it? It's the best I've heard! Thank you

    • @cloudraven
      @cloudraven  3 роки тому +1

      It may be hard to get now. Maybe on ebay
      It is from the album: Final Fantasy, More Friends Music: Final Fantasy Orchestra Concert in Los Angeles 2005 (2006-02-15)

    • @Frilleon
      @Frilleon 3 роки тому

      @@cloudraven Thanks!

  • @cloudraven
    @cloudraven  14 років тому

    @Jrogo2010 Good idea. I added a download link to the description of the video.

  • @LeumelEerised
    @LeumelEerised 8 років тому

    I love the original but I think this version is better. When I first played FFIII this amazed me at what the snes could do always loved this song. Thank you.

  • @cloudraven
    @cloudraven  14 років тому

    @deltron121 Ah poor Quistis. She kind of gets left behind in the Squall Rinoa thing and ends up being just the big sis. She is a genius and really good looking, but no one really took her seriously.

  • @cloudraven
    @cloudraven  13 років тому

    @Clesarie I actually like this voice a lot. Still, you may want to listen to the Japanese version with Etusya Ota singing. I cannot post links, but look for "Tour de Japan Maria and Draco"

  • @슥슥이-i4u
    @슥슥이-i4u 5 років тому

    GOD OST GOOD ㅜㅜ

  • @Intothevoid-NIB
    @Intothevoid-NIB 9 років тому +1

    Personally I prefer "Till we meet again" (look up Final Fantasy VI Balance and Ruin) but this is still good