Busted! The Eagles’ Don Henley Uses Backing Tracks at Their Live Concerts!
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- Busted! The Eagles’ Don Henley Uses Backing Tracks at Their Live Concerts! #theeagles
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Is it possible that the Eagles’ Don Henley has been busted for using Backing Tracks at current Eagles concerts? That he is guilty of miming to pre-recorded vocals?
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I saw Fil's video. The fact the Eagle's lawyers haven't challenged him on his findings, proves it. Fil, ROCKS💪
Fil is excellent in his analysis.
What could any atty for the Eagle's or Henley say?? The vocal waves were virtually identical. All it would do is have it validated in court, when a court agrees it was a pre-recorded vocal. And FAR more people are likely to hear about it then, then those of us wise enough to follow Fil lol ETA and that likely would open the door to countless people who paid big bux for tickets into a class action lawsuit saying they paid to hear live vocals. It could potentially lead to a huge, expensive mess! Especially since Fil proves the point. They would be smart to ignore and pray people don't hear about it
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I saw Fil's video (I have been subscribed to him for years). He does a great job in his all of his videos to show the greatness of so many performers. Love his videos on so many great guitar players, and vocalists. He really tends to be complimentary. Even in his analysis of the Eagle's vocals, he was not condemning, he only showed the facts.
Henelys performance of Desperado in 2023 was 98% identical to his performance of the same song in 2024. In the studio, it's likely some effects were added to the Henley vocal to make it sound live. Fil Henley of wings of Pegasus is exacting in his song analyzes. All those people who spent money to see the eagles perform live we're cheated by Henley (perhaps others) by Don not doing his job and miming another version of Desperado. If I'd been there and paid, I'd be absolutely livid. Thanks Fil and Wings of Pegasus. And thanks to this channel for joining in, adding an extra voice to the eagles participating in something that should be against the law.
He should file a lawsuit against himself for the unauthorized use of his music in a live setting.
LOL! Now why did I think someone would tie current events into this circus of a story Sunshine? 😉👌❤
That sounds as absurd as the time Saul Zaentz sued John Fogerty for plagiarizing his older songs just because John didn’t have ownership over his original catalogue that Saul purchased. He criticized Fogerty for creating songs that sounded too much like himself and even the judge felt confused
@@Thomasmemoryscentral My comment is made in ironic jest.
Dang dude. Dang.
😂😂
And McCartney gets criticized for his current voice. For me, at least he is singing live!
Spot freakin’ on Martin! ❤❤❤
True. At least there’s that. His voice is deffo fading though.
I wish he'd rest his voice a little though. The man's compulsive need to work all the time is doing more harm than good.
Yes. I just commented on this video and said the same thing before reading your comment...
@@MrKeychange Three hour concert last time I saw him. That does not help.
If these artists are going to lip sync then we should be able to buy tickets with Monopoly money.
Ooh! Nice burn Don! But also, all so true! 🏆🏆🏆❤❤❤
Comment of the month award
Is there another kind of money? 😉
@@travisk4215Canadian Tire money. Its a chain of stores in Canada and they gave you paper money from their chain when you made purchases. Got a whole stack of it.
Lip sync or fake "real bands" like Journey with Arnel Pineda. All the same in my opinion. Don't get me wrong...I like Arnel, but it's not Journey. There's a market for these cover or fake bands and so the bands sell it. A lot of rich boomers want to re-live their childhood. Perhaps it reminds them of their first kiss, or first car. I get it. I personally wouldn't go to these concerts. I choose not to reflect back on my teen years too often because I tend to want to go back...and I can't anyway. Life is great right now in my 60s, so I need to enjoy the moment here and now.
Finding out Henley is lip syncing gives me total respect for Bonjovi calling it quits because his voice is too damaged to sing.
Bon Jovi should of called it quits after blaze of glory
Same with Steve Perry. I personally believe that's why Steve cuts his own albums, but never returned to Journey. Steve's voice is still ok, but I think it would become painfully obvious if he tried to sing songs like LaDoDa...that he just can't do those songs anymore. Most of these artists have tons of money, so I don't see why they do this sort of stuff. But hey...it's the people's money and they will fork out hundreds of bucks to see these cover bands. Honestly, I don't understand it, and I personally would rather see a tribute band because they are usually 5x cheaper. But that's just me I guess.
BJ used to use tracks . Glad I never went to see them, and I was in a BJ cover band, we were good, no tracks
@@cdsersd2d Hotel California is a very good tribute band. They say they are sanctioned by Henley. I've seen them twice, will again. PS, first time, front row, $30, next time 3rd row, $60. ha
When did Bon Jovi say that? Jon hasn't retired from performing... yet! Plus, the band is going to release a new album on June 7. Are they going on a farewell tour? 🤨
Fil is a master of track analysis.
Thank you for crediting Fil, it's a must see video.
No problem G! Thanx! ❤❤❤
After they unceremoniously threw Don Felder out of the band, I never cared to see them play live again. I always loved the Felder-Walsh interplay and when that was gone, it was over for me.
Felder wrote one of the best music autobiographies I have read. "Heaven and Hell My Life In The Eagles". If you get a chance it's a great read.
@@roadiethegamecat4124 Frey and Henley attempted to sue him instead of combating back in say an interview response. If that is the direction they refused to take, suing Felder proves it right. They tried to throw out his original contract of equal cash to scoop more for themselves
My thoughts entirely.
Exactly GoneGoneGone! Exactly! ❤❤❤
Same here.
It's a Don Henley heritage band. People are deluded if they think they have paid a large fortune to see the Eagles.
Oh I like the Name Rick! The Don Henley Heritage Band! Love it! Sounds like a foundation! ❤❤❤
I guess heritage works because at least one original is left. After that it is a tribute band or cover band unless promoted by the “Eagles” (rock band)* trademark owner. There is a TM & SM owner who can trot out any old live bodies to go so far as to lip synch & fake playing to backing tracks.**
*As opposed to the NFL Franchise Philadelphia Eagles LLC which owns “Eagles” Reg’d TM for various sorts of apparel offered for sale in a “different market.” The Eagles of Henley is a Reg’d Service Mark owned by Eagles LTD in Cal. and covers “entertainment services provided by a music group in the form of live performances.”
**”Live performances” under TM law is probably classified as a “service” and “live” would seem to include a living body lip synching in front of a living audience. There is probably a Red’d TM that covers the products & goods of music and entertainment distributed on tape, vinyl, CDs, streaming, etc.
Any artist who is lip-syncing and/or relying heavily on backing tracks, is committing fraud.
Boom! And spot on Dan! ❤❤❤
I’d say context is required. A solo musician like Buckethead plays live guitar over backing tracks (the “band”), and there’s nothing fraudulent because he makes no attempt to hide it or deceive the audience. There’s no one on stage besides him, so it’s impossible for anyone to think humans are playing drums and bass live in his concerts.
Not true. The artist is there and performing live on stage even it is lip-synced. Its still a performance. How an artist presents live, is up to them. As it is up to the individual to go and watch the performance. Don't get hung up on using technology and post-production tracks on live performance. After all, the artist makes the music in the first place and produces the backing tracks. Many vocalist have ruined their voices on arduous live tours, after all, they are only human.
Depends on the genre. I just saw Gary Numan, and he was fantastic for his age, but his style of music has many layers to replicate live , even with a band. So some are obviously backing tracks or samples. The Eagles on the other hand are known mostly for their vocals and vocal harmonies and acoustic guitars , so Henley in particular deserves to be ridiculed.
I think if an artist wants to lip-synch, they should inform ticket buyers, so we can make the choice to attend or not. Full transparency is required, or stay home !!
i want to hear the imperfections, the soul, live. Zero tolerance for lip syncing.
Yeah! Me too PseudoSun! That’s half the fun of watching someone live! ❤❤❤
I am in your camp.
I remember the Rolling Stones at the Super Bowl. Compared to earlier live videos quite a bit rougher at the SB. I think Stevie Nicks has kept it fairly real. Compare “Edge of 17” live at Red Rocks or at the Whiskey in the ‘90s (?) to Crystal Visions (Melbourne 2006) or at Chicago: not as sweet vocals as Rumours and maybe auto-tuned but different arrangements. (All/mostly available on YT.)
I remember listening to an old Grand Funk RR live album on vinyl (parent’s) which on the jacket clearly stated the recording retained all the grit of a live performance - crowd noise, buzzing, etc.
For the amount of money they're charging for tickets, the revelation that they're miming is an absolute disgrace. I'll be surprised if there aren't some class action lawsuits filed in the US after this.
Kudos for recognizing Fil’s work on this. He’s a great guy with a great channel.
He sure is Allen! ❤❤❤
Fil’s Wings of Pegasus channel is amazing, I really respect how he calls out things like this. He has done several things on autotune and pitch correction that also show how as music lovers we are being ripped off.
As to the Eagles , I am a huge fan, but I do not see them as a band anymore, it's shameful if Don is miming and sadly now Glen has passed away, it feels like they have become their own tribute act. I would be happy if they recorded another album with the latest lineup and toured with that(with tickets that are actually priced realistically), but I wouldn't cross the road to see them doing what they are doing now.
We need people like Fil and yourself to keep getting the message out there regarding how we are being duped, and we need the bands/acts to listen and respect the fans again.
I so agree with you regarding Fil and his channel Martin! And thanx for your kind words regarding mine brother! ❤❤❤
I honestly don't think it would get the reaction you think it would. Back in the 70s-90s, sure, this would be sacrilege, but have you seen the younger acts of today, the ones people are shelling hundreds to see? With as much dancing and gyrating, you'd have to have ungodly breath control to keep pitch & tempo while dancing all over the place. Audiences today are used to act using backing tracks and probably miming, because they are entertained by the spectacle. Musicality and respect for live music were things that past audiences cared about, not todays' audience.
"They stab it with their steely knives, but they just can't kill the beast..."
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All I have to do is walk up to the microphone, and say I’m getting old, but I’m gonna give you the best I got, the people will understand
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Henley's ego is waaaay too big for him to even think about doing that.
Hmm, not for 250 dollars they won't!!!!!
Exactly, wow
People don’t like excuses , especially when they paid good money, they want to hear a great show , like on the recording , only louder . To do less than that , your ticket price would be expected to be reduced.
It's hard to imagine Timothy B. Schmitt playing with the Eagles since '77 and not being a full time member.
He is not an original member ,
The original members were Glenn Frey, Don Henley, Randy, Meisner, and Bernie Leadon
Joe Walsh and Timothy B. Schmidt both need to grow a spine!
@@RichardBond-dn2fi They won't give up that payday & fame. They get paid very well to be sidemen. Henley & Frey never made that Don Felder mistake again.
@@StaronWarner
Don Felder was not an original member but he was made an equal partner.
The Eagles have become The Pigeons.
LOL! Good one Joe! ❤❤❤😂😂😂
A weeks pay for a lipsync show is a sham. No thanks.
Damned right Aaron! But these folks think they are a vacation! No thanx! ❤❤❤
Henley is pouring his reputation down the toilet - very successfully
Henley a nasty bastard ! Ask David Geffen 😂😂
I hope Rick Beato picks up on this. He hates Henley with a passion.
Haha. I’m sure he has seen it. I ll forward the link to him
So do I! An absolute, egotistical jerk.
I wasn't aware that Rick disliked Don so much .. I've seen him be quite critical of Don for being one of the biggest blockers of using his music for reaction videos .. But I didn't know that his issues with Don were as personal and intense as you suggest.
I would love that too but I highly doubt that he will. Henley has deep pockets and could crush a guy like Rick. Best thing would be for hundreds of thousands of Eagles fans who go to their concerts to simply turn away from them. No one can fight the box office.
@@wayne_twentyfive Last time I checked, Beato was getting blocked/demonetised because he tries to claim 'Fair use for educational purposes'. Using audio for 'What makes this song great?' is not educational according to the fair use doctrine (Google it). Rick also makes it personal, not blaming the record label, publisher etc. and instead acting like Don is sitting there just waiting for Rick to post a video.
Rick has a lot of great videos but needs to learn how to use UA-cam properly and follow their Terms of Use. He claimed he didn't know how to get in touch with UA-cam to dispute a claim or something and couldn't figure out how to Google to find a phone number.
The guy knows his musical stuff but needs to learn about copyrights and fair use exemptions.
The "Eagles" haven't existed since their break- up post the Long Run album; only the drama of Henley/Frey. Good post, thank you for Fil's hat-tip.
BOOM! Well said Tom! ❤❤❤
Glad you and Fil are bringing this up. Some of these bands just need to retire instead of scamming the fans. The music industry is self destructing and has been for a while. Need to start all over again in the garage/basement and local 50 seater pub! Rock on!
I rather watch horse racing.
Thanx David! And a Rock On right backatcha!❤❤❤
@@terrencereardon6374oh ya. Drop a couple bucks on a pony and have some fun. I have spent many a nights at the track.
He is 76 and worth 250 Million dollars I guess he needs the affirmation?
I feel like all these touring acts are part of a money laundering ring for some unspoken purpose. It doesn’t make sense to be on tour at 76 years old. Knowing how the industry works, would not be a bit surprised
250 million? bet its more than that
The ego is an insatiable beast
Saw the Pegasus segment as well and spot on. Just waiting for a top reporter with guts to own interview Henley and ask him directly about lip syncing.
Milli-Vanilli Henley...
EXACTLY J! Ya nailed it! ❤❤❤
Electric Light Orchestra The first real fakes Of concerts. And that's Was. In the 70s.
@@garymartin1045 what bollocks
Thankfully Elton and his wonderful long term band were playing live on his farewell tour these last few years
Shout out to Fil. He is showing the man behind the curtain. All of these frauds need to be called out. Thank you for picking up on this. Preach brother.
Yeah, I love Fil’s channel! He’s got a great set of ears Jeffrey! ❤❤❤
Does he still do music or is it all analysing vocals?
I just saw the latest Wings of Pegasus video, in which he uses detailed electronic analysis of Don Henley's vocals for "Desperado" in live performances of the song from 2023 and '24. The Wings of Pegasus guy demonstrated by singing something twice, and showed how the analysis lines differed in his own voice, recorded twice in just one minute. Then, we see that a Don Henley performance from last year matches up almost perfectly with another a year later. Michael, I always like your commentary. I thought of posting a comment on one of your previous videos on backtracking, but now you've got this new one, which is another good one.
Thanx so much Eric! And I agree that Fil at Wings of Pegasus does a great job brother! ❤❤❤
Fil just uploaded an update, with more performances, and more examples of his own vocals, and how his don’t match.
But Fil did his demo acapella, so naturally the timing is not going to be the same.
@@lawrenceadkins2924 ,
It was just one sustained note.
What point are you trying to make?
Don Henley is lip syncing.
I find this particularly reprehensible considering what Frey and Henley did to Randy Meisner when he was losing his high notes on his signature song Take It To The Limit.
Great point. They treated Randy like shit!
Frey and Henley were/are bullies.
If you didn't defer to them, you were persona non grata in The Eagles. Good music, not good people.
I agree! Randy was my guy!!!
When you’re done, you’re done! How much money do you need, Henley? Bow out gracefully.
I second you DC! What say ye TRIBE? ❤❤❤
He might have the same problem Dylan has “holding up his end of the bargain with the chief commander”
Well, deceit is one of the edicts of the “chief commander”, so this may be so.@@michaelwills1926
At this point it’s not about the money, it’s the love of performing.
Love of performing? That’s the problem, HE’S NOT PERFORMING! He’s on stage pretending.@@chloenkitty
About 20 years ago when I saw them I was sitting next to the sound booth and was talking to one of the sound guys. They showed me the many racks of computers that kept the vocals in check. Basically on the fly pitch correction. He told me and I have heard it from others that work with him that only Joe Walsh and Schmidt could really do it live at that time and Henley and Frey for several years up to that point had been “enhanced” by processing.
Wow! Thanx so much for this additional information MrSupro!
The evidence is mounting folks!❤❤❤
No expert here, but DH never had a strong voice, seems unlikely his vocs would hold up so well.
I saw the Eagles in 2019 but I worked at the venue so I got paid to see them. Most of the show I stood next to the sound mixer and I'm convinced that this is the best place to view a concert. The sound was like a record. Maybe it was!! I agree that paying for a live performance should mean hearing the artists perform live. I watched Fil's channel a few days ago and the similarities in Henley's performances proved to me he uses recorded vocal tracks.
Spot on James! Well said brother!❤❤❤
Great that you credited Fil. Some people pass this knowledge off as their own. You're great, Michael, and your presentation is perfect!
Wings of Pegasus looks at the sound waves and makes a case that is impossible to refute but the similarities are undeniable. Big fan of his work.
and they say AI is the problem, no, assholes are the problem.
I stopped going to see the Eagles once the fired Don Felder, to me they stopped being the Eagles at that point. When Glen passed that just put the final nail in the Eagles coffin.
It's one thing to transpose your voice to a lower different key because you are getting up in years. But using backing tracks because you can no longer sing at all is complete BS and a slap in the face to your fans. It also reduces your concert to a blatant cash grab.
Spot freakin’ on Gearjam! ❤❤❤
It's not even backing tracks (like an orchestra or whatever from the record) it's MIMING.
Thanks for the shout out, Michael! I figured you would do a video on this, and you did a superb job. The Eagles these days are a joke. Some fans can complain about Paul McCartney's vocals not being good live the past few years in concert (and on his albums) but at least he is singing live!!
Thanks again for that link Larry!
It was perfect timing as I was already researching this fiasco!
But you put it all together for me brother!
Thanx! ❤❤❤
@@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLineGreetings my dear friend Michael. I heard today, that KISS sold the rights and ownership to there music for 300 Millionen Dollars. To a swedish Company. Could you please inform the tribe about it.
Your friend from Germany 🇩🇪 Roger
Quit wasting your money on this BS. Artist There's a band called Greta Van Fleet. Cheap Tickets better live than these guys or washed up.
And you're knowing you're getting a real deal. You will not be disappointed.
I'm pleased you picked out Macca as an example of authenticity in concert. It is my understanding that he also sings in the original key, although I don't possess the skills to know this for sure. The guy's a force of nature and I feel blessed to have lived at the same time and his former band, the name of which escapes me for now😉.
Canadian, aren't Fil's vids great? I don't catch them all, but love the ones I do. He works so hard. Take care, good people.
I watched Fil's video on this subject and anyone who does not think that Henley is lip syncing should do the same. Thank you for this video and your kick a** commentary about what has happened in the music industry (with emphasis on the word "industry"). Most music today sucks because the industry want formulaic sounds.
Thanx so much for your kind words GulfGal! And yes Fil is FAB! ❤❤❤
“Underage nurses to take care of his fading frame” 🥊 Dude you know how to throw a punch! 🍿
Got that one, did ya KingTrance?
I just couldn’t help myself brother! 😉👌🏆❤
That almost sounds like a crime. LOL.
Topless I imagine 😊
Lol
Just so none of them overdose like that one at his house. Thought he was going to jail for that but powerful people took care of it for him.
Thanks for giving credit to Wings of Pegasus. He is an amazing vocal analyst and his methods are scientific. He uses pitch monitoring software to analyze vocals. He has hundreds of vocal analysis videos. He is always kind and fair. He is extremely knowledgeable about music, and vocals and the physiognomy of creating human sound. He is also an amazing musician.
I agree M0ody! He’s awesome brother! ❤❤❤
Fil from Wings of Pegasus is probably the nicest guy I never met.
I only found him about a year ago. he genuinely comes across
as just real, honest and kind. (recognizing his talent would need more than a
simple comment here.) nice guy.
I worked the Don Henley building the perfect beat tour in Memphis years ago as a stage hand and ran spotlight for the show. They were running samples for the background vocals way back then...
Boom! There ya have it folks! Direct from someone in the know! Thanx so much John! ❤❤❤
Yes...
No NDA? I signed one...
@@sharonvalentinerexdo tell. What was your relationship with the band?
@OttoByOgraffey I sold pro audio gear at a renowned facility. My sales partner there serviced his and Frye. It was completely obvious by what the bought, how things worked. Samplers and compressors. ALOT of money spent for home studios. The two of them were fiercely, and I mean very fiercely competitive in buying. It was very tricky because if the NDA's!!
Michael..this is insane..imagine paying a couple hundred bucks and finding this out..should be able to sue..great video👍❤glen
My thoughts exactly Glen! It’s a crazy world out there!! ❤❤❤
This is the end of Don Henley as far as I’m concerned. I hope this video goes VIRAL
Well, thanx to good folks like you MJP, it’s off to a nice start! Thanx! ❤❤❤
I feel the same way about the band Chicago. They have had so many personnel changes over the years that they don't sound like the same band anymore.
Since Glenn Frey passed away no it’s not The Eagles. They’re my favorite band. I’ve seen them 3 times; 1975, 1976 (the tickets were $5) and The Hell Freezes Over tour. I would not pay over $150 for a ticket today especially finding out Henley is not live but memorex. Henley has become so greedy.
Thanks Michael for this video.
Glad I didn’t pay $500+ for tickets.
You and me both Poet! ❤❤❤
It wasn’t the Eagles after Henley and Frey showed their tiny dicks by crapping on Felder.
I’ll pay to watch him any day of the week, screw Henley - glad I pirated his music back in high school, he deserves it more than anyone.
The Eagles used to be my favorite band until I read Don Felder's autobiography, 'Heaven and Hell.' Both Glenn and Don had reduced their founding members to mere hired hands and cheated them out of millions. True, the music industry is a dirty business, but having also read Tom Petty's biography, I gained much more respect for him who bucked the system and treated his band members with the greatest respect while truly appreciating his fans.
@@bobl8183 - Yep, I always thought Henley was the biggest douche in Eagles, but after watching the documentary on them I realized Frey edged him out ever so slightly. Genuinely two of the worst people in the country ended up as partners in the same band. I like some of their music in spite of them.
I think what Mike love is doing way worse calling that shit show the beach boys is a joke should be mike and friends at least joe and Tim who have been with the band for decades are still there
Don Henley's Dirty Laundry being aired. Love it. Sadly, I did not get to see them before Glenn died. I did see them last year with the Doobie Brothers. Had this info come out last year I would have saved myself $275.
You hit the nail on the head. No one in the media is calling this out and you have the apathy of the people paying to see these groups. I was hoping you’d mention Fil too. Almost everything is about image now and there seems to be plenty of disposable income for people to pay for these shows just to say they were there.
Thanx User! ❤❤❤
There is no way I would pay to see such bunk, and I feel sorry that some find it acceptable to throw away good money on such. 63 here Michael and I try real hard not to play the fool, and it is obvious I am not alone in this, cheers fellow wise one!
On to you as well Passion! You are a scholar and a gentleman! ❤❤❤
Baby what a big surprise 😂. Oh, excuse me that's Chicago😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. Somehow I kinda figured as much Micheal. Great commentary brother ❤❤. Shout to Fil too. He's way cool too.
LOL! And I agree with you Jeffrey, Fil’s channel ROCKS !❤❤❤
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine yezzz indeed my friend.
That's the link I sent, MN. Fil is excellent in his analyses, explanations, and sincerity. You guys should have a chat! Wild stuff. The Eagle has crashed, seemingjy.
I thought so J! And again that YOU for the heads up! ❤❤❤
Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy. Great lyricist, fantastic (in his day, and as per his backing tracks) vocalist, and undeniably good (business) decision maker. Nice guy? Not so much. Man for the fans? Not so much.
It's Don Henley playing the songs of The Eagles. Another example is The Who. They should be called Who's Left. Foreigner is also not Foreigner. And the list goes on..... I would definitely rather hear the artist sounding not so good, as opposed to backing tracks. And like the Bible says, the love of money is the root of all evil. You hit that nail square in the head! I personally would not fund their retirement.
I would rather go see the James Gang. They are all living, and Joe is about as real as it gets.
Thanks Michael.
In the UK They are known as the two
Oh God yes! The James Gang! Ya hit the nail on the head CrossRoadCafe! Bullseye! 🎯🎯🔨❤️
Who's Left 😅
Technically they at least contain Roger Daltrey and Pete Townshend for The Who. The guitarist and major songwriter plus the lead singer.
I don't hold it against Daltrey and Townsend calling it the Who. John and Keith are dead. I heard Roger still sounds pretty good despite being 80 years old. I would have loved to have seen the original Who. I play bass and John is probably my all time favorite bass player . A sonic assault on the ears and probably part of the reason I have so much ringing in my ears. Check him out on Woodstock 99 with The John Entwistle Band. They were just killing it!
They lost me when they fired Felder
Me too Dawg! Me too! ❤❤❤
I think they’ve been singing to backing tracks for at least 40 years . Remember the Eagles Live double album from the early eighties and all the re-editing and enhancement
Good point Taproot! ❤❤❤
In that case, it was merely because they're anal retentive perfectionists. I've heard bootlegs from the tour that spawned the live album and they sound great.
The Eagles stopped being the Eagles when Glenn Frey died. It's been "Don Henley and Friends" ever since.
The Eagles stopped being the Eagles when Bernie Leadon left. He took that great bluegrass sound with him..Saw them open for YES in 72 and they were great. Saw them 3 yeasr later and they had become pretty boring. Money does bad things to musicians music
I'd go a step further, They stopped being the Eagles when they "fired" fellow band owner Don Felder. The magic between he and Joe Walsh was lost, because even though Steuart Smith is good at his craft, he is not Don Felder.
They stopped when they crapped on Felder . Might as well say when Burnie left. Great music with originals plus Joe Walsh. Mid to late 70's . After that who knows . Certainly after HFO
...and friends? More like hired hands that do what they're told.
@@MultiEviscerator Fingers Felder was in the way of MORE MONEY. One of the most greedy bands ever
If Don Henley wants the crowd to stop texting, then maybe he should start singing
Props to you for the shout out for Fil at WIngs of Pegasus. He does the lord's work.
The Eagles ended when Felder was thrown out......They're nothing without Felder and Walsh. Period.
I’m surprised that Vince Gill would participate in such a dirty deal! I guess money counts more than integrity!
Truly the end of the innocence. 😞
LOL! I see whatcha did there Darkness! 😂😂😂❤❤❤
Agree, Fil’s post was spot on accurate and concise.
Also feel your frustrations with many of today’s artists Michael. However I would say you’re wrong and should lay off Paul McCartney. He doesn’t go out as The Beatles or Wings. He gigs as the guy who wrote/co-wrote classic songs of our times.
Always like your non nonsense posts Michael, keep them coming 😁
I think the criticism towards McCartney was about ticket prices rather than miming or going out as 'Wings' or 'Beatles', wasn't it? Apologies if I missed something and have got this all wrong. Macca's voice is clearly not what it once was (surely one of the greatest vocalists in his prime, I would suggest, but not over the last 15-20 years admittedly) but at least the fella is honest in concert and gives it everything he has with his fading chops. No miming. Far more credible and honest than the Henley con, I reckon.
It was the Eagles that started the golden age of high ticket prices, way back with their Hell Freezes Over tour.
Yes they certainly did FJCRod! Great point! ❤❤❤
I can't imagine Vince Gill WILLINGLY duping anyone. Sad times for authenticity.
Vince Gill is great. But $$$$$$ talks.
Brilliant job by Fil. Proved Beyond Doubt.
Lastly, I think Don Felder is a way more humble player. He is the real Eagle in my book.
Never was an Eagles fan and even less a fan now.
The way Fil breaks down any video is quite frankly amazing. Add to it that he's an accomplished musician himself makes his analysis videos that much more compelling. Fil has made it a mission to point out the state of today's music and the fact that most musicians and / or producers feel the need to mechanically alter EVERY singers' voices is a sad state indeed. As for Don Henley, why would it surprise anyone that he isn't singing. The mans 76 yrs.old touring day in day out was tough at 36. But this should be an eye opener for the fans, not just of the Eagles but of every band. Especially ones from the 70's & and 80s.
I remember reading in a guitar magazine back in the 80's that Henley insisted that live songs be exactly as the records.........I always thought that limited creative input for a song.
Been watching Fil at Wings of Pegasus for a few years now. When I saw his analysis of the Don Henley miming scam I knew it wouldn't be long before you were on it. People need to know what they're paying for. Thanks to Fil and the guy(s) that send the evidence to him and thanks to you for reporting it and bringing people's attention to the scam.
Fil did a bang up job! And yes he has a wonderful channel! I’m a fan NewEngland! ❤❤❤
Many, many moons ago ELO was accused of using prerecorded strings and other instruments during its "live" concerts. It was proven true and ELO's reputation (for their concerts) was deeply sullied. And then came along that wonderfully talented duo "Milli Vanilli." They had to give back their Grammy because they lip-sync'd *everything!* Now, "artists" have no issue at all charging $ hundreds and $ thousands to do the same thing.
Words Matter --》 if it's a live performance, every single bit of that performance had better be LIVE. Otherwise, it is false advertising. But then again, does anything related to honesty matter anymore? [Spoiler alert] NOPE.
Well said NorthWoods! I concur! ❤❤❤
Milli Vanilli also had to refund concert goers and album buyers. They were forced to lip sync from day one. They had heavy German accents. I never liked them, but this example is what should happen to Don Henley (refund all lip synced concert tickets).
@@SuziQ. If they had actually sung it themselves, it would have been, "Don't blame it on zee rain!"
Well done Michael. I watch Fil often and he is so spot on and may I add extremely fair. A few points. I'm with you 100%. I hear people say they went and saw a certain group and then I tell them that there's only one of the original members or in some cases none of the original members and they looked shocked. Do your homework people. Also shame on Don Henley for not bringing Felder back.
I saw them on the Hell Freezes Over tour, but even then I didn't really feel I saw the "real" Eagles. I was too young to see them in the 70s. I cannot fathom why anyone would go see them now.
Very astute of you Vin! The drama was alive even then! Watch the DVD! Don Henley calling the orchestra guilty of sounding too white! What a freakin’ joke! ❤❤❤
Fil stated that Don Henley "mimed" his vocal tracks, just a different way of saying lip-synced.
Fil is too polite to say it.
Yeah I concede to that ReddRocking! My bad! 😉❤👌
@@99somerville He almost never uses the words "lip-sync" or "lip-syncing".
Here in England mimed and lip sync mean the same thing
I’m fine with an occasional backing track, such as a synth loop needed for a specific song, but lip synching lead vocals is ridiculous. This also removes any possibility for improvisation, since all tracks have to run at a specific time in the song. What if the guitarist wants to play an extra 16 bars of solo? Can’t do it, the vocal track is timed to come in at a set time. I’ll be saving my money for live bands instead.
Well said Charlie! I agree wholeheartedly! ❤❤❤
Thanks for The Wings of Pegasus reference. It's a terrific channel.
Fil is a great guitar player as well.
Yes he is PedrSion, I agree! ❤❤❤
Now that I think about it, The Eagles are the ones who first started charging ridiculous ticket prices back on the Hell Freezes Over tour in 1994! Thanks alot, guys!
Yeah Gary! Them & McCartney went with corporate sponsorship early brother! ❤❤❤
What was this ridiculous price?
@@MrChopsticktech 5 x the average ticket price
For me, the Eagles were done when they drove Randy Meisner out and I have not contributed a penny to their coffers since then! If Henley is doing this on Desperado, how many more tracks is he doing it to and since when? I subscribe to Wings of Pegasus and Fil is amazing! He also featured a video of a live performance of Take It To The Limit with Randy that during the “remastering” process had been pitch corrected and which is now on the official Eagles channel. Randy never needed pitch correction and yet they did it anyway… it sucks the life out of a performance.
Way back in the late 70's, ELO were accused by a U.S. concert promoter of lip-syncing their entire show...never heard how that shook out.
Touché!! Just found your channel today. You were spot on about the Eagles! 🦅 1975 album encouraged me to play guitar which I still play today for my own personal entertainment. But come on we don’t want no Milli Vanilli going on after paying hundreds of dollars!!
Great episode Michael, I certainly dislike the fact that so many top bands from yesteryear are out there touring ,charging top dollar with no or very few original members. To make things worse they are now resorting to lip syncing. If they can' cut the mustard, why are they defrauding paying customers and tarnishing the reputation of the original band.
Perfectly said Lex! ❤❤❤
Bob Dylan spoke about “holding up my end of the bargain” with someone he called “the chief commander” which to me is code for Ol’ Scratch
The "Eagles" and I use the term loosely, haven't been the real band since Bernie Leadon and Randy Meisner left the band. Everything is phony these days....
Queen would always play an audio track during the middle of Bohemian Rhapsody live, because there wasn't a way to perform it live. They weren't trying to fool anyone, they would leave the stage while it was playing, and then go back to playing live when that section ended. Totally acceptable.
They weren’t fooling anyone. Henley is.
Which is crazy. I have a friend who's the lead singer in a Queen tribute band. I saw them at a local club, and they did Bohemian Rhapsody totally live, from beginning to end. And did a great job. So I never understood why Queen didn't do that part live.
@@aquamarine99911 ,
Wikipedia has a detailed explanation of why they couldn’t do the operatic part live.
@@SuziQ. The point is, I've seen it done to near-perfection in a local nightclub. Live is never perfect, but it's MUCH more interesting to hear musicians give a live representation of their songs than to hear a backing track. Every band changes things live. The Stones had multi-layered guitars on recordings like "Gimme Shelter", and the live version is always an amalgamation/simplification of the various tracks, often with Keith's guitar in a different tuning.
@@aquamarine99911 ,
I prefer a live concert without backing tracks, too. My point was that Queen are not hiding it, and have explained why they feel like they can’t do the whole song live. As long as a band is transparent about what they’re doing, I’m not going to criticize them.
I do reject any use of auto tune, because I find it physically painful to hear (as far as I know, Queen doesn’t do that, but aside from this song, I’m not a big fan).
I saw the hell freezes over tour which was awesome. I did see them one more time with Glen Frey but no felder it was just ok. Joe Walsh was awesome. Btw but without felder I refused to pay the high ticket fees son principle. Still love the band.
The big give away was when Glenn Frey started singing!!😂😂😂
LOL! Oops! Wrong track MrAbrasive! ❤❤❤
like it
Love the shout-out to the Wings of Pegasus youtube channel. It's great and Fil seems like a really good guy.
Sure is Epeck, I so agree! ❤❤❤
A friend of mine for many years is in an Eagles tribute band. He has always sounded so much like Henley its truly uncanny. We are all getting older now, and just like the rest of us, his high notes are ruff, happens with age. It just does. I sent Fil's link to him. He was furious! Called FIL a Lil weasel. Lol. Swears if anyone can still sing perfectly, it's Henley! 😮 I used to sell pro audio gear in 1998, I knew this was going on with many big time singers, just by the gear they bought, ( in pseudonyms) of course, for their home studios, their production companies, including all touring engineers. We all had to sign NDA's, for certain clients. It's been an industry norm for a long time. Double edge sword really, how heartbreaking to hear them sound awful, as well as knowing what we now know. Some artists don't lipsync. Change the key is a better choice for me! We all grow older. Vocal chords change with wear! Lying for the big bucks, isn't cool. But oh well. I'm gonna say it, Henley has ALWAYS been a music nazi! Wink wink. It IS true.
Great information here Sharon! I’m fine with changing keys, always have been! Thanx! ❤❤❤
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine We work with what we got. I use a harmonizer, on stage, the boys can't sing a third up! I don't hide my little friend! She's on a table next to me! If anyone asks, of course I tell them!
Fil does a great job analyzing tracks with that pitch software, glad that someone forwarded his video on Henley. What we don't know at this time is it just Desperado that he is not really singing live, are there other songs and which one are those, maybe all of them on lead.
Yeah, I subbed to him immediately just so I would be notified of future analysis’s on Eagle vocals Randy!❤❤❤
David Crosby sang real live and made new music until he sadly died last year. Check out David Crosby and the Lighthouse Band....
I’m sure the Rolling Stones use backing tracks too, I went to see them in concert there were guitar parts playing, but no one was playing them
💯 for sure the Stones are running trax, cuz half the time Keef isn’t even playing anything, and Ronnie Wood is an absolute shell of his former self in The Faces…
“Always give your wife the bottom line financially, and common sense comes to life!” That’s stand up comedy gold right there 😀. Glad i found your channel! Came here after being linked from Fil’s video. Great job dude.
as a baby boomer i have enjoyed many decades of musicians and their true passion to the art, but now it`s passion for the dollar only. the human soul in music is now replaced with AI soul ( NOT ). Music is dead, it`s all been done before. So just play your vinyls,cds and other formats with friends, family or for yourself, as it`s the original pieces, and not accepting second best. only having one original member left, does not give them the right to perform under the originals band name. the sadist thing with folks today in not taking a stand against fake or fraudulent behaviour is " WELL EVERYONES DOING IT ". Thankyou for your honesty Michael.
I thought they were done touring by now. The continued pursuit of riches is tarnishing their legacy.
Oh they’re gonna run right into 2025 I bet! ❤❤❤
The worst part of all this is when Joe improvises or adds an easy to sing lyric. It almost feels like the improvised lyric was only put there to say to the audience "Hey, this must be live cause that lyric is not on the album".
His vocals are live besides a few words - Don Henley is the problem
With everyone on stage you shouldn't need backing tracks
Right Jose? I mean there are more non Eagles up there than there are Eagles to back! ❤❤❤
Michael your video made me look at recent live Eagles concerts. Yes Don Henley is looking sad, I noticed during Desperado he grasps the microphone with two hands (to hide the lip sync) and is heavily backlit. Maybe whats more alarming is it's taken a few years for concert goers to unpick this fraud. With Kiss it only took a few initial concerts of the EOTR tour for hardcore fans to pull up audio analysis of the concert sound. It revealed every concert was identical, and Pauls vocals never altered. As we all know the EOTR tour went of forever. This revealed to many when Paul was caught away from the microphone yet was clearly in the soundtrack or when the sync skipped a gear and the drumming track drifted from the instruments. It only takes one missed que to reveal the little man behind the curtain running all the smoke and mirrors.